is this shit? i pirated it so i'm not hugely invested in it. the beginning seems clunky, the dialog, the settings. just seems generic af.
this just feels like a boring-ass fantasy anime.
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is this shit? i pirated it so i'm not hugely invested in it. the beginning seems clunky, the dialog, the settings. just seems generic af.
this just feels like a boring-ass fantasy anime.
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Yes anon, BG3 is anime in CRPG form. Its the most anime game ever made outside of Falcom kino.
Rent free
>Yes anon, BG3 is anime in CRPG form.
Man I fricking wish, it would be so cool if a big studio actually had the balls to do that. There are so many western-inspired games made in Japan but you have to go indie to find something in the West that's explicitly taking inspiration from modern Japanese culture (I say modern so that people don't point out shit like Ghosts of Tsushima, that's a historical epic not animesque).
>Act 1 is great.
I would maybe agree if Act 1 wasn't so theme park-like. Act 2 is imo where ther game shines the most.
>Man I fricking wish, it would be so cool if a big studio actually had the balls to do that.
Do you WANT the vidya version of Teen Titans Go? Because that's what you're gonna fricking get if it's attempted.
No, you'd get the original TT. TTG drops a lot of the anime aspect to focus on goofy cartoon antics.
lol, this gay watches fantasy anime. what a loser.
bg3 enjoyers are escaflowne chads
Slayers is awesome.
Gets worse each act. Clearly bumfrick rushed.
They were likely chilling for 5y and then started crunching.
Shame, really, as the initial story was great.
>They were likely chilling for 5y and then started crunching.
This is evident by not only the fact that you cannot access the upper city to do all the shit they said you could do in the community update mentioning the upper city...
But also by the fact that morons on steam forums and everywhere else will pretend the upper city was never planned at all.
>there was no cut content in BG3
>you don't have any evidence of cut content in BG3
>you don't have any evidence of significant amounts of cut content that had a major impact on the final game
>lots of games have cut content, you just don't understand game development
>BG2 had cut content
>actually, cut content is a good thing, and here's why
>Gets worse each act
I find this to be the case with all RPGs.
>hook with act I
>sunken cost kicks in
>the game seems OK overall
>the initial story is great
what even counts as the initial story ? Cause the first act is pretty fricking boring
>what even counts as the initial story
I am guessing that he means the original plan before the story before it was rewritten into moronation.
Slayersbros rise up!
isn't the artist for this series a crossdresser
does that matter
Are you trying to slide threads?
I give it an 8.
Encounter design is great.
Combat is fun if you don't mind the complete lack of balance.
Main plot is awful, mid-development rewrites destroyed it. Probably would be bad without them.
Setting is cringe.
Some creatively atrocious writing here and there. Bizzare stuff.
Hm...
Play it if you like TB combat. Alcohol helps. Act 1 is great.
Among the best/most fitting posts regarding bg3.
You know, I really might try it drunk. Apparently they are still adding new ending slides.
4 tav playthrough can be fun. Esp as there are dozens of working class and race mods.
The only bad thing about the game imo is how the physics work, sometimes you throw a pot at your party member and it just phases through them and hits the ground.
>Encounter design is great.
This is one of the things Larian is utterly terrible at, the frick are you talking about.
>mid-development rewrites destroyed it
yea right
theres not a single larian game (that i played) that has a good plot or doesnt spiral in to moronic bullshit right after beginning. Here its especially bad because its in your face and very woke
Decent list
Its a mastapiece.
I played a lot of RPGs (and JRPGs) here is the updated enlightenment list since the old one was outdated.
I had to update it forgot few games.
8/10 bait
meh.. I don't agree with a lot of it, but it actually looks like a genuine human opinion
What's your reasoning for placing DEMD in 'not an rpg' while having Alpha Protocol and ME games on the list?
you missed JA2 under not an rpg
>fable is meh
in the trash the list goes
zoomers are hereby added to the definition of the word homosexual. no refunds, you did this to yourselves
It's a crpg designed to appeal to zoomers which is why it's so successful. Beastiality, gay shit everywhere and a console version on launch. There is not a more zoomer crpg on the market.
terrible list, decent bait
I like it 🙂
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It's fine. I played through it twice, good and evil.
Glitch within the bot?
Parody thread?
all video game boards are shit on the entire internet because the userbase are some of the stupidest fricking moron young people in the world now
No, it's just that homosexual yuropoor that spams ff8 constantly
>5e FR
>written by larian
What else were you expecting?
>What else were you expecting?
You know, as someone who was excited for BG3 before it came out but very disappointed in the final product, when you put it this way, I have absolutely no answer.
Welcome to the era of gaming where fans basically have to look for a decent engine with good mod support or remake a classic with open source to actually have something worth playing for the most part.
This is a hyperbole, of course, but the line between it and reality is getting more blurry with each year.
>is this shit?
a 6/10 game easily. Not shit, but overall rather mediocre. Excells at some things, while completely shits the bed at others
>the beginning seems clunky
It gets better once you unlock more abilities, so around level 6 I'd say
>the dialog, the settings. just seems generic af.
It's fricking d&d of course it's generic and uninspired. What did you expect? You don't go into dnd and adjacent games for amazing setting or story
It's a shitty game that will only get worse with time, you can play through act 1 and drop if you really want to, but I wouldn't play it at all
I played Divinity 2 Original Sin when I saw BG3 comming out in early access, as I thought it was so cool and now Divinity 2 is one my most hated games ever.
I fricking hate the game and Larian Studios, they only make shit games.
I decided to play BG3 regardless after it came out of early access and I haven't still finish act one after like +20 hours in and I am not sure which one is worse but both games suck.
Larian Studios is the most normie overrated studio I have ever seen. AND THIS IS NOT BAIT.
It is an overrated studio.
Dos2>>bg3
>the beginning seems clunky
Are you talking about the story, or the gameplay? If it's gameplay not sure how it's clunky. It's 5e so you can basically attack once a round and end your turn.
>just seems generic af.
You've installed a game located in the Sword Coast region of whatever the main D&D setting was called(Faerun?) and complain about it being generic. You've had to find a torrent or other way to download it, consciously double-click the installer and go through the process and throughout all of it you haven't stopped for a while and thought "well generic setting is a deal-breaker for me and SC is THE generic setting, maybe I should stop".
imo its quite good. but if no woke crap, couldve been BETTER
>Is this shit?
Nope. But personally for me only for one reason. More a massive nitpick. Namely how Larian did Viconia dirty. Seriously why they made her like this?
Demoralization propaganda. Game wasn't made for people who played the originals.
Will stick to BG2 then where she got one good ending and one bittersweet romance ending.
There was so much potential to make her different after her ending (like how her time adventuring with Drizzt changed her a lot and how that would've impacted BGIII). Or better. Make her the canon romance ending and then have her and Bhaalspawn's half-drow kid as either a npc or even a recruitable one with a unique questline that would revolve around her fate and how that affected him (because in the romance ending they both have a son)...so much potential here and they went with a retcon that turned her into what we have.
The Bhaalspawn also didn't get a good ending due to some moronic module that served as a prequel to BGIII. Could've just gone with one of the Throne of Bhaal endings where the PC purged him/herself of Bhaal's heritage and became a normal person.
Which is utter idiotic. Viekang beating charname is absurd.
Yep. But that's current day WoTC. They hate people that give them money.
Hasbro made them conform to their novel canon, where the hero of the first two games basically did nothing but mainline quest stuff, so pretty much everyone got bad endings.
Utterly disgusting.
Video game stuff should be literally relegated to its own dimension when it comes to D&D.
That way Bhaalspawn and co could've gotten a happier ending.
It only gets worse from act 1.
it's the same as BG1-2.
in other words, yes. Dungeons and Dragons is literally as generic as generic fantasy goes.
As a game, BG3 is pretty good, but narratively/setting-wise? Sucks balls. There's nothing interesting in it.
D&D is so "generic" because everyone and their trooned out grandfather is copying parts of it since instead of doing weird shit just to be original it delivers solid fantasy.
Innovative stuff usually ends up being D&D but everyone wears dildos as hats or some stupid shoehorned shit.
Yeah because FR wasn't generic and degenerate since the very start, right?
>D&D is so "generic" because everyone and their trooned out grandfather is copying parts of it
Name 5 examples.
>Innovative stuff usually ends up being D&D but everyone wears dildos as hats or some stupid shoehorned shit.
Name 5 examples.
You cannot get the full enjoyment out of a game if you get it for free because you will lack the feeling of "getting your moneys worth out of it" so it will feel hollow.
For this reason i always buy my games at full price and if the ge is f2p i buy at least 100$ worth of microtransacrions and if there arent any i donate 100$ to the creators cashapp.
Games are just more fun when you spend money on them thats why you arent having fun with BG3 because you pirated it.
Took me a couple hours before it really grabbed me, but holy shit did it grab me. There aren't many games better than bg3.
It's fetish softcore porn for furry/troon/gay degenerates. (Kudos for not paying for it.)
t. dummy who didn't play the game
many such cases
Its a pile of shit with a tiny level cap and filled to the brim with ESG garbage gay shit
It says a ton about the state of society that this garbage is praised
So starved are we for anything resembling an RPG
BG 1 and 2 are miles better
A shame, though, I might still give it a shot down the line.
Currently replaying BG the original saga with the intent to export character to BG2+ToB and having a blast. Had almost forgotten why this game sat atop my favorites of all time.
Perhaps this time I'll play ascension too, never played BG mods.
The level cap is definitely way too low. But then people have noted how the third act seems incredibly rushed, so it's almost as if they did intend the game to be a lot longer.
It's literally Divinity Original Sin 3 with some DnD paint and a Baldur's Gate sticker slapped on top.
If you went into it buying into some dumb PR line like "RPG of the generation" you'd be setting yourself up for dissapointment.
If it only was dos3...
where magic would actually be usable and fun
Its one of those games where early access was way more fleshed out and better written than what we got in full release.
Somebody is going to make a israelitetube video on it soon I am sure, killing whatever of the fake hype remains and thats gonna be it.
Game will age like horseshit.
>the beginning seems clunky, the dialog, the settings. just seems generic af.
YOU LITERALLY WAKE UP ON A LIVING SPACESHIP MANNED BY AN OCTOPUS-FACED MAD SCIENTIST THAT IS CAREENING THROUGH ACTUAL PHYSICAL HELL
So generic Spelljammer? That would be that bad if you don't spend most of the game is the generic Forgotten Realms.
Guess anything looks interesting to failed normalgays.
No. It´s a pretty good game, just not as good as ESG would have you think. D&D is pretty generic but that´s exactly the point. You play D&D when you want to go classic. Production values are really good, probably the best for this kind of game (with every interaction fully voiced and acted and all that. Usually you would get descriptions), there are enough classes and races to pick from, the combat is simplified to appeal to new players too. There are also a fair amount of solutions to tackle every scenario (dialogue, combat, outside the box/ parallel thinking).
All and all it´s a good game. I still prefer the pathfinder games though. Specially WoTR. I found BG3 narrative too disjointed and unfocused which made keeping invested challenging role playing wise.
Couldn't find a better thread so I'll ask here. What's the best way to play BG1 and 2? I heard it was something like the steam versions but with a mod that removes some gay Owlcat shit.
In descending order:
1. Play the original versions, if you have them already
2. If you bought the EEs on Steam, play those and mod out the Beamdog shit
3. If you own neither, buy the EEs on GOG, they come with the original games and play those
4. Or play the EEs and mod out the Beamdog shit
I am a purist and prefer the originals, but I can understand why a new player who doesn’t already own them or have any fondness for them would want to play the EEs as a more accessible starting point. They do frick up the balance (though neither game is hard to begin with) and they do add a bunch of dumb shit (some of which can be modded out) but they also add QoL shit that is nice
EE with Beamdog modded out it is.
What are the dumb shit and the nice shit from the EE versions in your opinion? I've played the original versions and tried the BG1 EE but didn't progress too far.
Dumb shit: New companions (all shit), new magical items (stupid, throws off the progression and balance). I have no idea why they did this. Just leave it alone. Supposedly they also added new dialogue to existing characters. I think they added new class kits as well, all poorly balanced (bg1 didn’t even have kits)
Nice: QoL features. Much of what they did was just including pre existing community mods, but some they did themselves, most notably the “loot an area after a battle” instead of clicking on individual piles of loot, that’s a very welcome improvement. They also modernized the way information is presented (e.g. to hit and damage on weapons) which I don’t think is necessary but I can see a use case for making the game more accessible to a new player who is unfamiliar with the ruleset.
There’s also an argument to be made that porting bg1 to the bg2 engine fundamentally shifts the balance of the game due to the numerous changes. This is a valid argument and I can understand why someone would dislike this, but I personally don’t mind since many players have already been doing that for decades anyway.
Overall, philosophically, I wish they had had self restraint and simply made an updated version that doesn’t need patching and tweaking and included modern QoL conveniences… without adding moronic fan fiction modder bullshit. But, it’s Beamdog, so they lacked that self restraint. No one ever wants to hear your great ideas for what content to add to “fix” a beloved classic, just stay in your lane and leave it alone, imo.
BG3 was literally funded by Blackrock/Tencent, if you paid money for this game, you're part of the problem.
>is this shit?
>i pirated it so i'm not hugely invested in it.
is this just the current /vrpg/ shit thread format? you guys really need to cut this out. i've seen like 20 threads with this exact op since this was posted.
>literally every companion have his own type of "curse" that make they/them a special snowflake
who the frick thought that was necessary, feels like everyone of them comes from a lowtier fanfiction and don't get me started in the constant "doing the right thing actually have le bad consecuences" it's the exact type of writing that smug redditors think it's brilliant and subvert their expectations when in reality is as plain as their balding heads
There isnt a single instance where being evil is advantageous, even though thats kinda the whole point of being evil.
Being evil should be easy and materially rewarding. Being good should be difficult and forgo many rewards. Devs are stupid.
You didn't steal from merchants? Or bully refugees into giving you rewards for fixing minor inconveniences? Or steal the idol the moment you could get away with it? Or the moment you gave it to one of the kids and got paid for your trouble? Or made an alliance with the duergar mercenaries and then killed them all once your mutual enemies were dead in order to take all their stuff? I sold a child to be experimented on, before I ended act 1.
I did a lot of evil shit in that game and got rewarded for it. The game just didn't flash red, play a music sting or give me a "bad guy" point when I did it.
I'll admit that having an evil campaign would be neat, but the way the story was structured, it would ultimately look fairly similar. They already had a "seize power for yourself and rule as a nascent god-king" ending.
>You didn't steal from merchants?
Never.
>Or bully refugees into giving you rewards for fixing minor inconveniences?
Nope. Refused rewards whenever possible.
>Or steal the idol the moment you could get away with it?
Negative.
>Or the moment you gave it to one of the kids and got paid for your trouble?
Nah.
>Or made an alliance with the duergar mercenaries and then killed them all once your mutual enemies were dead in order to take all their stuff?
No.
>t. paladin
Well sounds like you didn't do a particularly evil run.
You at least murdered the goblin children in a notably funny way, right?
You can do all this stuff as a good character, way to miss the point.
just pick Dark Urge (the canon origin) and play the game, it's good for one playthrough
That homosexual Swen told me to save durge for a second playthrough and so I played the game once as a custom and thought the game sucks so i never want to slog through it again. He sure got me.
i love it
your loss, homo
I gave up upon reaching Act 3. Moment to moment stuff is cool. It's neat how reactive the game is, but the storytelling really blunders by basically not having any kind of main plot until the end of Act 2. Reaching Baldurs Gate and seeing how many fricking quests there still were and how many companion quests I still had to resolve... did not fill me with vigor.
You can have a good BG3 thread without the shitty bait anon.
>2024 already
>still no michael jackson rpg
The worst RPG of all time. Story is a bland and boring disjointed mess. All the characters are awful, I ended up playing with only hirelings, since the companions personalities are unironically based off your average Twitter and Reddit users. I would never expect to find a 40+ year old hag cleric acting like a 16 year old whiny b***h in a serious D&D setting.
>The worst RPG of all time.
Come on anon, that’s clearly hyperbole.
Dungeon Lords exists, bg3 is probably number two behind it
People with this awful taste should be shot on sight.
Are there any content mods out? Is there a chance that they will come? I don't know shit. The game and story are good and I'm almost at the end, wishing I could crawl a couple dungeons. Has anyone added content to the game, even generic dungeon crawler levels. Is this even possible with the engine? I haven't looked up anything about the game so I don't know shit.
Can anyone explain to me how stats work when you multi class with different main stat? For example i want to use 10sorc/2wiz or 6cleric/6sorc, in these cases which stats will be used when casting spells? Cant find a definitive answer anywhere, especially in wiz case. Keep seeing people mentioning last class, but even that isnt agreed upon
The last time I read up on the subject, your casting stat was determined by the primary star of the last "new" class you took. So Wizard/Cleric would be Wisdom, and Wizard/Cleric/Wizard would still be Wisdom. But I stopped doing complicated multi-classes after I read about that.
BG3 isn't installed on my computer any more, so I can't test it, but an easy way to figure it out would be to make an Evocation Wizard+Warlock that has different stat bonuses for Charisma and Intelligence. Fire off a few spells or cantrips and see what gets added.
From my limited testing, seems like that whole last class is bullshit. Which stat is used depends from which class the spell came from. Kinda makes multiclassing outside of your main stat useless from what i can see, or maybe im missing something here
>Kinda makes multiclassing outside of your main stat
You want to multi for things like bonus actions and the like. Sort of how like in 3e you'd take levels in fighter to get weapon proficiency.
Yeah, 1 or 2 level dips seems fine most of the time. Though thing like 1 wiz for spell learning seems pointless, since the learned spell will still use int
>1 or 2 level dips
Level 3 is where you pick up an archtype and get big gains. So you can do a 1 level dip to get things like armor proficiency, or you can go in deep to get really good skills which have big time cross class synergies. If I remember correctly the advantage of a 1 level wizard tip is learning spells from scrolls dependent on caster rather than class level and you'd take CHA for more spell slots, which means you can get spells like haste and conjure elemental from scribing and pick up sorc blasting spells normally. This isn't practical in honor mode because your scribing chance will be crippled due to low int.
I just tested 11warlock/1wiz and i couldnt learn spells higher than level 1 from scrolls. It was tied to wizard level. Not sure if thats tied to warlock wizard interaction, but if its the same for every class, then there literally theres no point
Warlock doesn't have traditional spell levels. Should work with sorc/bard/druid/cleric.
Once i finished it i started hating it to a point that i can't stand it anymore, i hate most of the characters and the mainstory fricking sucks, it wouldn't be so bad if it was called a different name.
It's not as bad people on this board make it seem. I really liked Act 1 and Act 2, both mechanically and from a story perspective (especially playing a Dark Urge), but the game really falls apart in Act 3. It's full of obviously cut content, cameos of characters from previous BG games that don't quite fit and sometimes don't act like themselves, some truly awful story decisions, and the two main end game "factions" are both kinda boring and unlikable.
It's still worth playing though, I don't know how anybody can call this game shit because it's fun for the most part.
ok beamdogtroony
There's more room for nuance than either "best game ever" or "literal dogshit". I didn't regret playing it, but I doubt I'll play it again.
Cut content to some extent is fine, but too many things fizzle out in Act 3, like Mol's storyline or the mysterious hag "M" in Auntie Ethel's letters, and companions barely talk to each other anymore.
I also don't get the point of throwing Minsc in as a companion so late into the game. Most people will probably be halfway through Act 3 by the time they recruit him.
Game kinda feels like a big frick you to the player, something like
>here is your "Baldurs Gate" slop, pig, have fun rolling in it, oh and we will never reintroduce cut content or release an expansion since you were so happy to slurp this half finished shit thanks for the millions
I mean its not bad, I have played too much of it to say that, but its unfinished. Its half a game basically.
Frick Larian and their braindead drones.
The fights get really annoying by the end of the game too. Fighting 50 enemies who keep hitting you with status effects and skipping your turn is not fun.
>Fighting 50 enemies who keep hitting you with status effects and skipping your turn is not fun.
What are you talking about? You're an unstoppable killing machine by act 3.
The only fight I found annoying due to too many enemies was the Moonrise Towers assault at the end of Act 2. There's like 15 of you all clustered in a narrow hallway, getting spammed by Hunger of Hadar, and each turn takes like 2 minutes because of how many NPCs there are.
Pretty disappointed with multiplayer. They didnt actually introduce any new systems for the dialogue where everyone can participate, best you can do is just watch whoever is talking. Dont understand why they didnt just reuse the system from dos1 dunno how it was in dos2, as it is, it really feels tacked on rather than a real feature
I've been playing it blind now and it has been mostly fun. What I don't like is how the story railroads you into important choices right as act 3 starts with next to no background info...or at least I think they are important choices, not sure though. And also it's kinda funny/annoying how everyone has some weird shit going on at camp that needs to be adressed, unless you just don't recruit them / choose to not care
The game is garbage, it won't get any better. The beginning is the "best" part of the "game."
I really enjoyed Acts 1 and 2, but Act 3 lost me the longer it went on. As soon as I saw that Final Fantasy looking chucklefrick and the edgelord shapeshifter lady, I had a bad feelings things were going to take a nosedive.
Also, it's weird how your companion gets kidnapped so soon into Act 3, which makes you feel like you need to rescue them ASAP, but at the same time, the game seems to push for you to explore Baldur's Gate leisurely. The narrative and the gameplay are at odds with each other.
>As soon as I saw that Final Fantasy looking chucklefrick and the edgelord shapeshifter lady, I had a bad feelings things were going to take a nosedive.
I thought Gortash was pretty well written, definitely the best BG antagonist with the most interesting back story to discover.
He's not a badly written character, but he looks ridiculous. Why the frick did they have to give him such ridiculous hair? It's distractingly awful.
>but he looks ridiculous
Oh for sure, but it definitely leaves an impression. Just like Sarevok wearing a bull mascot costume and Irenicus sawing his ears off and wearing nothing but a leather harness with nipple windows.
How does Bhaal going on another pointless killing spree or Myrkul raising scary skellies and Tav fricking over all his plans empower this guy.
What a pathetic mega cope.
Not sure I'd call it generic since it has Gith and mind flayers, I think shallow would be a more accurate description. There's no sense of place to this game, especially with the city. BG is supposed to be some corrupt hellhole police state but it shows this in the most limp-wristed way possible, there aren't any actually interesting encounters with the Steel Watch. Then, when it comes to the generic NPCs, all their dialogue is just moronic unfunny jokes. I did like the creche and Grymforge, because there's some sense that the Duergar and Githyanki are actual cultures instead of cardboard cutouts. I also liked act 2 at first, the darker tone and weird undead were all cool, but it was kind of ruined by the time the annoying dyke shows up.
>I did like the creche and Grymforge, because there's some sense that the Duergar and Githyanki are actual cultures instead of cardboard cutouts
The teenager gith whining that he didn’t want to learn to fight was insanely immersion breaking and inappropriate imo
CRPGs in the last five years quickly overtook other genres as having the worst fanbases in all of video games. I think the woke tabletop community finally broke through.
Tyranny was a better game than BG3, DE, or the Pathfinder titles.
>Tyranny was a better game than BG3, DE, or the Pathfinder titles.
See. This is why I love BG3, because it's chasing off people dumb enough to like Tyranny that were raping the genre to death. It like retroactively gatekeep all the shitters that ruined rpgs from the halokid days.
I'm replaying it after a while.
Did they remove DRS mechanics for honor mode?
Yes.
i got to act three and there is a home owner with some refugees squatting in his house and you're supposed to say he's evil and i haven't been able to summon the desire to play it for a week. at least letting the homosexual vampire bite you gave him a good perk. its a good game but like all games now its very pozzed up. also i transformed my entire party to half illithids so they could fly and i sort of regret it because now they all look ugly. but i will make sure to beat it before i start on another gayme
I told my flatmate about it months ago, he started playing it and he's absolutely obsessed with it. I dropped it shortly after reaching the underdark. I'm kinda jealous of how much he enjoys it, but I really don't think the game deserves that kind of attention. He spends a lot of time reseaching combat builds, but what's the point when you can just get beat, reload, go somewhere else, level up, come back and clean house?
>I dropped it shortly after reaching the underdark. I'm kinda jealous of how much he enjoys it, but I really don't think the game deserves that kind of attention.
Agreed
>but what's the point when you can just get beat, reload, go somewhere else, level up, come back and clean house?
DOS2 and BG3 have a fixed amount of XP available, no random/respawning enemies, so it's theoretically possible to get stuck, I suppose.
Their next game will be free of the DND homosexualry and terrible ruleset, come home, human man.
Its gonna be a giga pozzed flop
I was talking about Shartfield btw
Divinity is an original system and it's even worse, in fact all the worst stuff from BG3 mechanically came from larian homebrewing shit