>game's out in less than 3 months
>no one gives a frick
>Starfield is right around the corner
Larianbros...it's quite literally over...
Baldur's gate 3/BG3
>game's out in less than 3 months
>no one gives a frick
>Starfield is right around the corner
Larianbros...it's quite literally over...
>devs saw that most popular characters didn't have crazy accessories so they don't use them in marketing material
?
>Larian writing
>turn-based
>5E
>Abdel Adrian is canon
Pass. I'll pirate it eventually, I guess.
>larian writing
This is the worst part. Every fricking character is the same. Just some butthole that makes their quips.
zoomers and normalgays hate turn based games. only rpg boomers buy these types of games. early access sold millions and thats pretty much every rpg boomer. that is it, they have reached the ceiling regarding sales.
DOS2 sold millions and killed billions thougheverbeitlest...
I like Civilization because it's a turn-based game that doesn't suck.
>only rpg boomers buy these types of games
The original BG was RTwP and came with a script compiler you could make your own char/arty Ai. This game is a sad homosexual joke.
t. Boomer.
it's really weird that no crpg has copied DAOs tactics since it's just a baby version of BGs AI scripting. so handy.
This is true. Not big on those games, but you're definitely right about that.
Maybe Larian shouldn't have released a game in early access for 3 years?
>first 3 posts are copypasted discord shitposts that have been spammed hundreds of times
Rent. Free.
I am moderately exited for it but i didn`t like any of the default companions i`ve seen. The MC design however looks pretty good so if i can design the MC and a group of mercs i`m in (or if there are other more interesting unrevealed party member options)
Larian? more like No White Menarian
aand it's the same exact posts with the same exact pictures
3+ years and counting
Wow, the bethesda action blockbuster is more hyped up than the niche CRPG?
Any other incredible insight anon?
Timing is pretty bad, Hell even I'll admit BG3 is going to be on the backburner for me.
Sex with shadowheart
BG3 is releasing in probably the worst year to get attention, this year is completely stacked with huge titles.
I'm looking forward to it, but no way is it going to draw a lot of eyes this year.
I am looking forward to release
never touched Early Access
gonna play with 3 pals probably
Gameplay seems good but writing and OST don't seem quite up to snuff. Slavov is simply not that good. The writing and tone just feel more reddit than classic BG. It feels more like they're trying to make a saturday morning cartoon than an epic adventure.
It's not bad but I get this weird vibe. Reminds me of Fallout or Wasteland but the singing clashes with that. Feels like it wants to be several songs in one.
This one is simple yet full of fun and energy and very heroic.
that's not that impressive. Also it's a remix of a track he didn't even compose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_PZ2x2_vPI Moreover he doesn't understand the musical aesthetic of Baldur's Gate. BG's music is trying to sound like Miklos Rosza or Conan the Barbarian-style stuff not whatever the frick he's going for with BG3.
I think it's just a product of its time. ID and BG and PT all had similar sounding scores but they were made by three different people.
I find it really funny that Jeremy Soule did the music for IWD and Inon Zur did the music for IWD 2, just like Jeremy Soule has done the music for TES games and now Inon Zur is gonna do the music for TES 6, just because Soule got meetoo'd
No. BG is almost trying to replicate the style of epic Hollywood dramatic scores. BG1 literally plagiarizes the theme from Lifeforce and Throne of Bhaal plagiarizes Ben Hur and maybe Army of Darkness. It's not a product of it's time because even Siege of Dragonspear had a soundtrack in a similar vein while Slavov just tries to do his own style which kind of sucks in comparison and doesn't convey the feeling of a fantasy adventure nearly as well.
You're a deaf gay. Slavov's music is great.
It's mediocre at best and doesn't nearly reach the heights of BG2's ost.
His BG3 soundtrack sounds like DOS:2 with some bass singers. It doesn't sound like BG.
BG3 is set 100+ years after BG2, it's a different era (literally) with a different feel to it. At least he's trying something different rather than trying to ape his predecessors
> At least he's trying something different rather than trying to ape his predecessors
different =/= better. It just means different. It can be better but it can also be worse. When I play BG I want it to sound like an epic fantasy adventure, not whatever the frick he's going for.
>it's a different era (literally) with a different feel to it.
Weird how the era sounds so similar to DOS:2 then
>different =/= better. It just means different.
Yes. I was only responding to the complaint that "it sounds nothing like BG!!!"" It's not trying to.
>Yes. I was only responding to the complaint that "it sounds nothing like BG!!!"" It's not trying to.
yeah and it's worse off for it and if you're making a game in an established franchised you should absolutely be trying to maintain the aesthetic identity of that franchise. You should recognize that BG and Divinity Original Sin are two very different properties and adjust your style accordingly. Instead he just gives us a Divinity Original Sin soundtrack with some added bass singers.
When you play a western epic fantasy adventure game like BG do you want Slavov's mediocre ethnic drums and twangy guitars or do you want shit that sounds like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d93MBXdlc0Q be honest now.
>if you're making a game in an established franchised you should absolutely be trying to maintain the aesthetic identity of that franchise
nta, but this, so much this
There's only a very few valid reasons to ever change something so fundamental about a franchise.
Most of the time developers/designers try to change them when the series has an identity crisis or the developers working on the game despise/dislike the previous titles and want to create a disconnect from older games.
I'm not happy about using Ubishit as an example, but look at Assassin's Creed.
Arguably, AC 1 to AC Revelations (possible III also) maintained the identity of the franchise and then sometime around Unity/Syndicate something changed and they saw how popular The Witcher 3 was so abandoned everything, changed the feel of the games, disregarded the series' identity, and despite the games selling like hotcakes to gullible morons thanks to marketing, the games are objectively worse.
>you should absolutely be trying to maintain the aesthetic identity of that franchise.
That assumes that BG's musical aesthetic is some sort of consistent and thematic monolith instead of whatever the composer felt inspired to rip off at the time.
Sounding familiar? Anyway, repeating myself here but BG3 is set 100+ years after BG2. The world is different, literally. Spellplague, a cataclysmic event, happened for example. It's not picking up 3 years after ToB so why do you expect the world to feel the same? The setting is the same but the era is not.
>why do you expect the world to feel the same? The setting is the same but the era is not.
Not him, but you're missing his point.
You're looking at it from the perspective of the in-game world. In the "The era is different so it make sense that music, art, instruments etc. used by the people should be different and thus the soundtrack should be also."
While the anon looks at it from the perspective of the player who sees value in the identity the franchise had built. To use Assassin's Creed again, the series maintained for a long time an identity of merging historical elements and modern elements which translated into the music. Most games had soundtrack that incorporate music/instruments of the time when a given game takes place with elements of modern music. So in case of BG it would be to retain elements of the old soundtracks, familiar themes etc.
>instead of whatever the composer felt inspired to rip off at the time.
they were trying to capture the feel of epic adventurous hollywood scores. Which you just proved.
>The setting is the same but the era is not.
and? What does that have to do with the soundtrack? Why does being a different era mean it should sound like DOS:2 rather than traditional epic fantasy?
What does Lifeforce's theme have to do with traditional epic fantasy? Is it just you arguing "things I like = fits traditional epic fantasy"?
>What does Lifeforce's theme have to do with traditional epic fantasy?
Because stylistically it's well in line with traditional adventurous fantasy music. Are you deaf or something?
This is pointless. Story themes should dictate and direct the soundtrack more than asking some AI what "epic" and "fantasy" should sound like. Considering BG3 is so far all about mind flayers shenanigans or an ancient cult/conspiracy related to the Dead Three rather than the epic journey of CHARNAME from level 1 peasant to demi-godhood, I'd say a change of pace is warranted.
>I'd say a change of pace is warranted.
Why? And you're only making these sorts of dumb justifications in the first place because you probably didn't even play the originals and just feel like you need to vigoriously defend every aspect of BG3.
>Considering BG3 is so far all about mind flayers shenanigans or an ancient cult/conspiracy related to the Dead Three rather than the epic journey
Why would that make it sound like DOS:2?
>Why?
Because different stories with different tones should be reflected by different soundtracks? Why do you insist on having common sense explained to you? Not all heroic fantasy can be lumped together, otherwise we shouldn't really waste time on human composers and just ask some AI to blend a few generic fantasy tracks and call it a day.
>because you probably didn't even play the originals
I played them enough, thanks. Even within BG1+2, the soundtrack from the first game is going to feel different from ToB because obviously stopping Sarevok is not on the same tier as stopping the reincarnation of Bhaal while you play Highlander with your stepsiblings.
>Why would that make it sound like DOS:2?
Ironically a game I never played so I won't comment on that, or your bias.
>Because different stories with different tones should be reflected by different soundtracks?
And there's nothing about BG3's story that means it should sound like DOS:2. Even then, Slavov's stuff is just profoundly unimpressive regardless of stylistic choices. Even DOS2 had a worse soundtrack than DOS1.
>Even then, Slavov's stuff is just profoundly unimpressive regardless of stylistic choices.
I never tried to argue otherwise.
>bg3 ost is bad
kys shazamtrannies
I never implied this either. I like the main theme and there are some gems as well but personal taste is not particularly relevant. I only defended his decision to try something different from BG1+2.
>generic 1030# medieval music
wow, so good, kys.
its very good similar to conan the barbarian
kys grognard
The main theme is meh, sounds kinda like the original sin 2 theme.
this is way cooler.
>I never tried to argue otherwise.
you've been defending it this whole time. The point is that the BG series is very much classic adventure fantasy and the soundtrack should feel like a rousing adventure while Slavov's doesn't, at least not to the extent of the music from the original games. And it would be one thing if the new style was still effective at achieving this feeling, like for instance if it sounded like a Final Fantasy soundtrack or something, but his doesn't. It just feels incredibly mediocre in every way.
I feel like they should have just hired Inon Zur to do it.
Not him again but I really don't feel that way about the original BG osts, they were really boring and forgettable, especially 2. BG3, on the otherhand, is much more memorable and well made. It actually starts to get on the level of Japanese composers which is pretty rare for the Western rpg sphere.
>I feel like they should have just hired Inon Zur to do it.
God no.
>Not him again but I really don't feel that way about the original BG osts, they were really boring and forgettable, especially 2.
Oh come on, you can't say things like that with a straight face after calling Ganker out for being contrarian. BG2 had some very good and very memorable tracks, you can only deduce some points because it's kinda inconsistent but the highs are worth the forgettable lows.
I don't remember any BG2 track even though I played it more recently. Meanwhile I remember more tracks from BG1 even if the tracks themselves aren't very good.
Maybe I'm being dumb, I guess I should boot up BG2 again.
>no. Call me when he makes something as dope as this
I must admit that's pretty good. Better than anything by that German movie composer they got for the first 2. Call me what you want but I never got around to ToB
This is not as dope as what you posted but here it is anyway. Hopefully we get more epic tracks on release.
Jesus, another good track. My zoomer levels are being exposed. Why is Zur being forced to do ambient Bethesdashit these days? If I remember correctly he also did the main theme for Kingmaker. I disagree though with your overall assertion. I compare Bobby to Japanese composers because he is not afraid to use a bigger variety of sounds when composing. He's nowhere near the level of Square composers for example but still.
>I don't remember any BG2 track even though I played it more recently.
On top of my head and I'm not going to provide youtube links:
>Main theme that plays during character creation (obviously), although maybe that's a Pavlovian conditioning due to spending hours stuck rerolling stats and deciding on a name
>Nalia's castle quest
>The druid grove
>All 3 romance themes
>Bhaalspawn battle theme
>Melissan
Oh and add Firkraag and the shadow dragon battle tracks too.
The start of this song is peak adventurecore.
Yeah I don't remember any of those, not even the romance themes even though I thought they were the best. Meanwhile I remember most of the BG1 wilderness themes. Maybe that's because not much happens in BG1 when listening to them? Like in BG2 you're questing and reading dialogue and all that whereas most of BG1 is exploring the wilderness and sometimes a nice tune plays
idk
maybe i'm just being a smoothbrain and all the bg1 tracks being the main motif in repeat means its more memorable
Dunno why but the Starfield suite is kinda boring to me. I think I just don't gel with orchestra unless its done really well like Soken.
I agree DOS1's composer is much better. They are both very good to me tho. I'd say Kirill is 7.5 while Bobby is 6. The TOB stuff I've listened to is 7.
also its funny its like the only time main stream western composers are allowed to sound good its when they're doing John Williams IPs.
>unless its done really well like Soken
Soken is arguably one of the worst orchestral composers Square has. Don't get me wrong some of his rock stuff can be fun and weird even some of his orchestral stuff can bee cool but other Square composers run rings around him in regards to orchestral composition.
though I will never understand why they insisted upon using VSTs rather than a live orchestra for the major tracks on the 16 ost.
woah that's kinda amazing I feel the exact opposite. I used to think Square shouldn't do orchestra stuff until I played XIV. Overall all of them are better using VSTs, but still.
XIII is one of the best soundtracks and that's a good example you posted but I think Hamauzu is better when he's doing electronica.
Shimomura is an objectively good composer but for some reason I just never cared for her works.
And the remake track is just alright
Now compare it to
Also to answer your question probably because he wanted to save time. Man has a lot on his plate.
I think we just have different tastes in music, which is fine
Oh and keep in mind this is coming from a music normie. I know some music theory and have composed some stuff but I have no idea what would make an orchestra piece 'objectively good'. I'm just going by ear.
and btw for the shadowbringers example I just mean orchestral style not recorded with an orchestra
> I have no idea what would make an orchestra piece 'objectively good'.
here you go.
Jokes aside, there's not one determination of "objectively good." If i had to put it into words, Soken's music uses orchestra in just a very basic poppy or tacky kind of way. He doesn't really do much interesting with the instrumentation or melody or rhythm he uses it to make his stuff sound "bigger."
>. I used to think Square shouldn't do orchestra stuff until I played XIV.
what the frick? I get you're a zoomer but come on now.
I think I'm just a zoomer and like electronica more, and whatever orchestra I do like is when its composed like an electronic song. Like when I think of Uematsu and Mizuta I'll always think of their MIDI tracks over their orchestral ones. Soken meanwhile has less of this gap (doesn't mean he's better than them like you said he's just more homogenized)
The songs you posted are objectively good and I see what you mean, they are better as "orchestra songs" while Soken just slaps an orchestra soundfont over everything.
I guess I just jam more to stuff like this
oh and this is another thing entirely but these guys are nothing compared to their prog rock masters. I wish these guys did vidya soundtracks
>oh and this is another thing entirely but these guys are nothing compared to their prog rock masters
Hard disagree. Wakeman is very good but the vast majority of prog rock albums often just descend into aimless noodling.
Most prog rock albums wish they could have shit like this.
>the vast majority of prog rock albums often just descend into aimless noodling.
God you're right on that front. I didn't mean to imply though that all prog rock was better than them. Just that the prog rock masters (Yes, ELP, etc.) were on an even higher tier of genius. Awesome track you posted, thanks again for the music posting and discussion
> were on an even higher tier of genius
I don't even know that I'd agree with that Yes and ELP are good but are they A-game Uematsu good? Not necessarily. Uematsu has much stronger knack for creating impactful melodies than any of them. While his style veers closer to prog rock in boss themes and stuff, he can go and transition right into shit like this. Uematsu can definitely deliver emotionality that I've never heard on any ELP or Yes album.
I agree with you 100% believe it or not. That's why I wish these guys did composing work (I know Wakeman did some movies but I mean more varied stuff) because you need to compose more varied tracks. Maybe this is cope but listening to people like Anthony Phillips you feel this kind of wasted potential, like please make something other than sad guitar songs Anthony you'd be great at it!
Like I often hear wonderful melodies from various pop songs but they go underutilized, they're just in that one song and that's it. Composing allows you to expand and develop it, and I feel like prog rock sometimes approaches that with their longer and more experimental songs but evidently not enough.
But again I don't know what I'm talking about really.
>also its funny its like the only time main stream western composers are allowed to sound good its when they're doing John Williams IPs.
nah
The real problem is zimmer-cancer.
It's just kind of okay. It's not really impressive. It's trying to be kind epic but i don't think he has the skill to really make it good.
>Why is Zur being forced to do ambient Bethesdashit these days?
His stuff is still good
>He's nowhere near the level of Square composers for example but still.
he's also nowhere near the guy he replaced in that regard. And there's plenty of western indie games with way more interesting non-orchestral osts, it's just that wrpgs tend to go hand in hand with orchestral music.
Also If you want to talk about good western game soundtracks: Jedi Fallen Order's soundtrack was phenomenal.
> they were really boring and forgettable, especially 2.
The original stuff from ToB absolutely shits on anything in BG3.
>God no.
call me when Slavov makes anything like this.
> It actually starts to get on the level of Japanese composers which is pretty rare for the Western rpg sphere.
lmao except Zur has actually worked on japanese games like Dragons Dogma and Soul Calibur. And no, it doesn't.
>you've been defending it this whole time.
Nope, I made no judgement on the quality of it at the time, but nuance is lost on stubborn idiots like you.
>shitting on Bobby
I am not following this conversation at all but Ganker is contrarian about everything, huh? He's probably one of the best Western composers out there, much better than the first 2 BG games (1's soundtrack is the best, btw)
Also don't know if the guy you're arguing with pointed this out, but Bobby is intentionally making the BG3 soundtrack sound more like the originals, with its focus on bombastic orchestra. DOS2 had a more folkly feel
>He's probably one of the best Western composers out there,
Is this a joke?
> but Bobby is intentionally making the BG3 soundtrack sound more like the originals
and yet he's so trash he can't even succeed in that.
>is this a joke
Excuse me, best western game composers. I don't know enough about the film and general composing spheres to comment on their quality.
>and yet he's so trash he can't even succeed in that.
BG3 soundtrack is already a 6/10, meanwhile BG1's a 5 and BG2's a 4
I don't know why you have such a hateboner for this man who dares to make a soundtrack that's slightly good. Are you a seething game composer?
>Excuse me, best western game composers. I don't know enough about the film and general composing spheres to comment on their quality.
again, is this a joke?
>BG3 soundtrack is already a 6/10, meanwhile BG1's a 5 and BG2's a 4
no. Call me when he makes something as dope as this
>Weird how the era sounds so similar to DOS:2 then
that's not so strange considering they're only 6 years apart
nice reading ESL-kun.
>Owlnig seethe thread #14564
>owlhomosexuals
Are the original games fun, bros, been pretty bored lately
haha this thread again, always so fun. i love timeloops hahah!
well yeah, that's what happens when you release the game piecemeal and treat it like an open beta, hype deflates massively
the absolutely obsessed spammer in every bg3 thread is cringe though, larian really lives rent free in his head kek
>>no one gives a frick
Because it's pure trash developed by a woke studio, that has nothing in common with the original series.
Even Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance has more in common with the original Baldur's Gate trilogy, although it is an action game.
It's a shame because I like the mechanics of the game, it's just that it clearly has that weird saturday morning cartoon tone and unlikable characters and writing that you get from onions writers and artists when compared to the originals. The only character I really liked in the EA was Halsin. But I don't think they even plan to have him as a permanent companion. Why would you make a chad muscle elf good guy druid and then not make him one of the main party members?
>devil music like from a classic horror movie
>>no one gives a frick
Good.
There will be a few threads leading up to its release, a few more right after the release, and then in a week or two, all BG3 threads will have OPs stating "I am forgotten".
BG3 has no redeemable qualities which will retain interest of players. Both Pathfinders games and old BG games will outlive BG3 in minds of players.
Screencap this.
Anyhow, going to create a BG2 thread and talk about Viconia or Aerie, or a Pathfinder thread for the true alignment autism experience, minmaxing discussions, and interspecies sex.
>Viconia or Aerie
Both written by Gayder btw.
That was pre-pozz Gayder to be fair.
That's a cope but whatever helps you sleep at night.
You're telling me that the gayder that made BG2 would make pozzed slop like DA2 and Inquisition? Get a grip. DA Origins was the beginning of the end for Gaider.
I think he was always a homosexual queer gay man. Occam's razor says he had little reason to come out when he did and at his age and at his then status as some sort of publicity stunt. But we live in an age dominated by identity politics, pick your football team and RPGCodex gays slapping a pozzed label on everything because they dug up some blue-haired leftist tweet.
Art and you much you (dis)like it becomes indistinguishable from whether you align politically or ideologically with the homosexual who wrote it which is shallow and moronic, like the trannies trying to cancel a HP game not so much because HP is a terribly written franchise but because JK Rowling is trying to genocide them.
>putting pozzfinder anywhere near the original BG games
lol, lmao
If it's 3 months away do we know if Dragonborn or Paladin's are playable yet?
Paladin is already playable.
Paladin's have been playable since last December with the latest patch 9. Dragonborn are all but confirmed since Larian has stated that all of the races from the players handbook will be in the game. There was even datamined assets of the Dragonborn heads.
https://twitter.com/chubblot/status/1546556365765853188
>enemy down
>ally down
Cute, they have music changing depending on how the fight is going? I'm browsing trough the whole soundtrack. It's bretty good. People that say that it sounds boring are delusional.
having more hype for it "releasing" into early access years ago maybe wasn't the best idea
>No one gives a frick
It's the second highest selling Early Access games of all time
>It's the second highest selling Early Access games of all time
And despite that, old games get more attention and interest on Ganker is saying something about the game.
Ganker doesn't play video games
But it definitely likes to discuss them, which is what hype is, so the point still stands.
No one gives a frick.
can't play the full game until it comes out anon
thus I wait
No it doesn't, Ganker likes to frame a discussion about gender politics, general racism and frustration with their place in the world at large around video games because they aren't able to discuss the things they actually want with any depth.
How new are you?
While there definitely are threads like that, there are many threads where anons genuinely discuss the games, go on nostalgia trips, fap to their waifus for a millionth time, and so on.
>there are many threads where anons genuinely discuss the games
How new are you that you think just because anons are antisocial and bitter they magically become more knowledgeable about vidya?
The vast majority of conversation here is trash and rarely anymore insightful than talking to someone who doesn't play games at all.
So you sieve throw mass of shit if you are here for vidya discussion, or you are sieving threw the small amount of actual discussion to get to the shitposting.
You might be here to talk vidya but there are genuinely better places for that.
I don't know who hurt you, but it's clear we've different experiences on this board.
Maybe you're just visiting shitty threads or not being selective enough about which you visit.
>You might be here to talk vidya but there are genuinely better places for that.
Name three (3).
*No one on Ganker gives a frick.
The game is woke and stands in direct confrontation with the well liked WOTR, and you cannot like two games from different franchises belonging to the same genre at the same time
I expect more hype around launch day, but most of us have bought it and played around with it already, just waiting for full release
I'm hyped as frick
Legit only game I'm looking forward to this year
>Legit only game I'm looking forward to this year
That's pretty sad depending on how you look at it, as it says a lot about the gaming industry.
or he just doesn't care about starfield or armored core vi
not really that out there anon
The point was that the fact an average person is hyped for one game in a year is sad because it used to be better.
Of course, it depends on one's preferences so the anon might a corner case, but you get my point.
Personally, I'm not hyped for any game this year.
or maybe they only like particular genres of games?
there aren't that many studios making isometric DND games these days
Are you playing dumb?
I wasn't necessarily talking about that one specific one. I was using his statement as a generalization to point out how in the past people were generally hyped for more titles.
Hence why I said
>That's pretty sad depending on how you look at it, as it says a lot about the gaming industry.
>depending on how you look at it
>one anecdotal anon makes you assume something about all gamers considering any and all games
>>one anecdotal anon makes you assume something about all gamers considering any and all games
Yeah, it's just that. It's definitely not based on my own general observations and my perception of how things changed in time that lead me to believe games use to be better and more people were genuinely hyped for multiple titles per year.
Garbage sucking zoomers that will fork off full-price for a game shilled by their favorite streams don't count. They aren't people as they have no mental capacity of their own and will not even play most of the games they buy or play them for 3-4h.
same, I'm also waiting for WotR to get it's final 2 DLCs so I can finally play it
Cyberpunk DLC might be good as well, and I honest to good can't feel anything when I look at Starfield, I feel like I should be losing my mind like everyone else but it's doing absolute nothing for me
don't worry anon; Bethesda games are notoriously dry
Starfield looks much the same as their usual fare
I bought it today so I can get the free deluxe upgrade
Is it worth playing now or should I wait for the full experience? Also are you guys planning on starting with Origin Characters or making your own thing?
>Is it worth playing now or should I wait for the full experience?
I am playing it now and testing different classes and builds.
Anyone know if this is a Paladin or an Angel?
Isn't that an aasimar or some kind of celestial?
It's a Deva.
it's literally just a white chick with wings
>hurr deva can look normal
but why would you when they can be unique?
Devas are azure skinned celestials that directly serve deities in the setting that's being used for the game. They're basically just blue angels.
I mean they can look slightly different but that outsider look is what makes them cool. that pic is just a white chick with wings.
But that's exactly what they look like according to the lore, they're just blue skinned humans with wings.
it doesn't even have blue skin. also, again, they don't have to be blue but just making it a roasty is stupid. it's not an outsider, just a human with chicken wings.
Keeping a game in early access for years will do that. There is no hype left because those who would be excited for it already played in early access.
BG3 has been out for like 3 years already in early access.
Maybe when people can access the finished game they'll talk about it.
Frick Larian. Self hating sjw anti-white c**ts.
Post the image again, this thread needs it to remind all white people to avoid this game
I had fun in the beta and have been waiting for full release for a second playthrough
Codexcucks seethe 24/7 about it
Why do they not like it?
I'm playing BG3 for this QT.
There are not enough trannies for Redditdex's liking.
>Got rewritten to be used goods to appeal to BG2gays who fricking LOVE sloppy seconds
It hurts
it's amazing how much bg3gays hate the baldur's gate series. that makes absolutely no sense to me, if i hate the first or second game from a series i would not even play the games after that
>selfhating trannies hate previous installments of the game they plan to buy because it's developed by selfhating trannies
Hardly surprising.
BG3 has frick all to do with BG1 and 2 and that's a good thing. Watching boomers seething and dilating over CHADrian dabbing on their favorite IP never gets old.
>BG3 has frick all to do with BG1 and 2 and that's a good thing
you are right that is a good thing, so we actual fans can just ignore it
Im a BG1 fan above all and I just pretend BG3 isn't BG3 I just Call it "DND Game made by Larian." Then it all just feels better. Baldur's Gate just happens to be in the game because that's just where we were scooped up by the Mindflayers.
that is the part that annoys me the most, just call it something else. But no WotC has to parade that name around to get people to buy it HEY REMEMBER MINSC? LOOKS IT'S JAHEIRA WOW
You aren't wrong about the last part but it's not enough to ward me off the game. Plus I enjoy Larian and Sven most of all is basically just a more successful version of me. I felt like the first Divinity OS game was a beta test for doing a DND game and I was right. I'm getting what I want no matter what besides 5E and no Alignments. I wish Pathfinder wasn't shit.
Oh well going to play BG1 again for the thousandth time and have omegafun doing it. I'll listen to 90s/2000s anime/jpop/jrock too and make sure everyone knows how fricking gay i am.
good day.
did you just go "literally me" on sven? what the actual frick is happening
> I'm getting what I want no matter what besides 5E and no Alignments. I wish Pathfinder wasn't shit.
you know what's really shit that the pf2 game that is in development is not a turnbased CRPG but a fricking diablo clone. who the frick asked for that?
he wears a gaudy metal chestpiece in his videos and some of their videos they released during the EA were hilarious.
Im also tall white and getting older and dont do well on camera.
what the frick are you even talking about?
>delusional
>narcissist
>attention seeking
>protagonist syndrome
>gay
it’s crazy we live in a world where people can reach ages beyond like 16 and still be like this cus they never got their shit kicked in and got brought down to earth. i guess you probably saw it in the past sometimes in particularly coddled nobility but now you can see it peasants.
No i don’t care about whatever made up story you are gonna spin in response to this.
I dont even know what this response is even to. A lot of these various truisms can be applied to anyone who posts on a public forum ever.
>zoomer is ignorant of how good and soulful games that were made with passion were instead of being made with diversity politics and ESG score in mind
>thinks he's winning over boomers
lol
lmao
>Huge nose
>Huge jaw
>protruding foreheard
Looks like a barely passing troony with a ton of makeup.
The current state of woke Larian.
Don't forget the big, bushy and manly eyebrows.
BG3 is Dylan Mulvaney's game of choice. Literally the Bud Light of video games.
Well they have a 700+ page thread about the game.
I'm hyped as frick, can't wait to pirate it
I will play it. Not massively hyped but I am in the market for a new turn/party based fantasy CRPG after getting done playing the last Owlcat game.
I still have to make my way through BG1 and 2 first lol I'm not too hopeful on making it in time
>Can't import saves from BG1/2
What's the point?
not the same genre
not for the same crowd
I think people will be surprised at how mediocre Starfield will be. Not sure how, but Bethesda does this shit every time, where it wipes people's memory of the last game they released.
This is their biggest game yet, and their last two games shit the bed massively whilst not having even a fraction of the depth. I 100% believe this will be a cyberpunk shitshow except much bigger because it's a Bethesda game.
BG3 will, at the very worst, be decent. And CRPG fans have an Owlcat game coming out soon too anyway, so we'll be fine regardless.
Im looking forward to Baldur's Gate 3 only because I want them to release the engine so I can make stuff. Looks great. Story seems ok. Characters seem ok and if you don't like them you can kill them. besides Gale apparently.
> I want them to release the engine
If only. Doubt it will happen though.
Could happen a year or so after release. But yeah they haven't addressed it at all. Oh well it'll probably be what happens to me in GTA games or Elder scrolls where I just get bored and see how much stuff I can kill before I quit.
If it makes you feel better they released the DOS2 engine. If you pester them about it they might do the same
Yes this is why I even bothered mentioning that they could release the engine for BG3. But as much as I enjoy the Divinity OS games for what they were I didn't really care enough to make maps for my friends and I to play on.
I agree. DOS2 is a good game but its mechanics don't inspire the sense of adventure I get from D&D. Despite being rtwp NWN is a good engine for fantasy adventure. If Larian releases a BG3 engine it would be the NWN successor the industry needs.
If I had an account on their forums I would make a thread about it
>DOS2 is a good game but its mechanics don't inspire the sense of adventure I get from D&D.
I dunno. As far as computer games go I like the idea of finding skillbooks and shit rather than just automatically picking moves on level up.
Does INT still manage your skillbook in BG3 or was that just a BG1 thing? I didn't play much of 2.
wym, gale was the first character to die when I played the beta
I know he has the resurrection meme, but you don't have to resurrect him
So my point was when I killed him myself when I was playing a magic hating barb in the EA; he has a whole thing that explains why we should res him which I believe you made a reference to just now. The game imo trying to keep you from killing him and I've never seen a game go through that kind of trouble before. You can usually abandon or kill characters at leisure or you can't because story
So I acquiesced. Sometimes i let the narrative move me.
If you kill him and leave him dead the game ends in a cinematic as the nuclear mana bomb inside of him detonates and wipes out the region.
delay coming, i can already taste it
No skeleton race no buy, simple as
>Larian writing
>turn-based
>5E
wont even bother pirating it.
ill just replay BG2 for a thousandth time, and have super fun doing it.
I'm yet to play BG1 and BG2. Started 1, but it's such a slog. Every enemy either deals a frickton of damage or is capable of hitting you a dozen times without a miss or can cast mass paralysis or fear.
They're not great, a lot of the praise is nostalgia. They're mechanically very simple games, to the point that if you play fighter specializing on bows you shit on everything in the game by yourself. The companions barely ever speak and have very little personality to speak of, and the quests tend to be very generic. Unironically, you're not missing a lot.
Isn't that the case for the first two levels of DnD everywhere? Everyone is weak and dies to an unlucky dice roll, what other games made this easier?
>larian is insisting on turn based
arrogant, useless homosexuals.
i tried playing BG2 in turn based mode once.
it was the shadow dragon fight.
i ended up in hospital - i blacked out from sheer inhuman levels of boredom and smacked my head on the desk - the doctor said i almost died.
he never saw anybody THIS bored.
this is the last time i ever try playing a turn based RPG.
never again.
RTWP is shit and never works.
Playing fricking Pathfinder in realtime is literal torture, stopping every 2 seconds to give orders and rearrange shit.
Frick RTWP.
sounds like a you problem.
i spent tens of thousands of hours playing baldurs gate and icewind dale games and i loved every second of them.
So you had shit taste as kid, what else is new.
skill issue
same bro, maybe it's nostalgia but RTwP just feels better
RTWP is efficient as long as you know your setup for clearing all the trash. If you have to burn spells for one particular group, it's easy to do so in the pause at the beginning, otherwise your Martials just charge in and clean house in real time much quicker than they would in turn based. The option of turn based is nice if your builds aren't very good or if there's a particularly strong boss though.
>bg2
>turn based mode
what the frick are you even talking about?
d&d is turn based
d&d games should then be turn based
simple as
i spent 200,000 hours playing tabletop turn based dnd larping rpg sessions.
the last thing i want to see in my dnd computer game is more motherfricking turn based combat.
>attempt to browbeat and shame core demographic of CRPG gamers over their race and gender
>they go do something else
pikachuface or whatever
People who like Larian games/crpgs are very excited. What are you talking about?
The ONLY real argument in favor of RTWP is that it allows for "swarm" encounters like just you and your buddies trying to hold off an army of goblins as a last stand over a bridge or something
>no one gives a frick
I give a frick. I can't wait to frick Shadowheart
>cleric gets 4d6 holy damage ranged touch attack spell at level 1
the frick are these Black folk thinking
welcome to 5th edition, enjoy WOTC's wild ride
ITT seething grognards and autistic homosexuals that dont like having fun
i enjoyed the beta so much its already guaranteed to be one of my favourite games of all time
i love fun, but fun is not something i would consider 5e rules to be
verification not required
5E rules kill it for me as well sometimes but I'm such a master DND player I can pretty much do what I want and ignore what I want and roleplay however I want. Manufacturing Safespaces in my head has been a craft I'm mastered since I was 7.
it's better for a video game than it is for tabletop tbh
absolutely not, for the type of beer and pretzel playstyle for normies that wotc wants to foster, having simpler rules is actually helpful, but the combat is far to barebones to do something interesting with it, why do you think larian homebrews so much stuff?
No it isn't. It's absolutely the opposite, the 5E system was designed to be as bare bones as possible so combat would be as simple and fast as it can be so TT players can go back to pretending they're actors. 5E is an absolutely dogshit character building and combat system, and it really shows in BG3, which suffers massively for having to adapt it. Playing a caster is dull, playing a martial is downright tedious, the combat is absolute SHIT and the character building is only a little better. Every previous edition of D&D was far better for combat and character building.
It also really hurts because one of the strong points of Larians previous RPGs were their stellar combat system, and now you don't get that in this game. DOS2 had WAY better combat than BG3, it's not even close, and it just feels like such a downgrade to play BG3 after playing that. And all you're left is WotCs pozzed Nu FR as a setting, and the absolutely shit companions with the garbage writing that Larian is known for. The only things salvaging this game are the fantastic reactivity, the zones (the Underdark is great), and some of the encounter design. But yeah it has massive flaws that really drag it down, and the 5E combat and character building system is definitely one of them.
Idk im having more fun with the game than I ever did irl with the system so I think it works better as a video game
holy shit, what a moronic take
like the other anon said, 5E was created to simplify the combat so people can roleplay
but for a video game it sucks ass
All D&D rules beyond 1e suck ass but are at least better for video games than they are actual tabletop play.
i would rather play a 3rd or 4th edition game than a 5e game tho
>pretending to be 45+
>on the board with the on average youngest user base
Probably a day 1 buy for me, I just haven't looked into much of anything about it and I don't care to.
I have no hype.
Pushing this idea of games being somehow rivals or competition is kinda nice. Still, both are merely propaganda products so, it's not gonna work. Different settings and universe doesn't mean they have different objectives. A typical fantasy medieval world with propaganda elements and a sci-fi fantasy future world with propaganda elements is actually just the same thing.
This game has triggered the Ganker schizos. This feels to me like the mentally ill homosexuals that used to shitpost spam TW3 and Divinity:OS2 threads.
I bought Baldur's Gate 3. Does that trigger you?
Same
I'm looking forward to it
only made sure it runs in Proton and that's about it
At least play the tutorial section and test some of the classes.
i know the classes already
Vulkan causes the GPU driver to freeze/lockup
DX11 works fine
>i know the classes already
BG3 is different than the PnP(it's better IMO).
im probably just gonna run druid like I'm doing for Solasta
I bought Solasta in early access while it was discounted with intent to play it with my girlfriend upon full release but we broke up in the interim. Is it worth playing alone or should I try to convince one of my friends to co-op it with me? None of my friends play video games but I could probably sway one of them if playing it by myself would suck.
if you're fine with managing 4 characters its probably alright
i'm a fan of just managing my single character and have been playing it coop with 3 other buds; will prob do the same for BG3
only the host needs to own DLC for others to use it
Solasta has decent encounter design but my god that is the ugliest looking game I have played in the last twenty years outside of maybe NWN.
The faces are so bad and I don't understand why they don't fix them.
do any workshop mods affect the faces?
Druids are solid in BG3.
How'd it go for you? I haven't tested out BG3 myself, but Wrath of the Righteous has been running fine through Proton.
argentinian currency on steam.
>buying on Steam when the game is available on GOG
Why?
I'm not polish
Neither am i. I still always buy on GOG when possible.
you have polish ancestry then
Nope. GOG is simply better than Steam.
oh no you have defeated me how will i ever cope?
Looking forward to it. Recently finished DOS 2 and while the last act was pretty bad as far as writing goes, gameplay was all around fun
Really hope they worked more on that writing or at least hired some more competent writers
I am far more excited for BG3 than I am Starfield, but I'll be participating in threads of the latter and avoiding threads of the former because Starfield spoilers won't at all matter. BG3 will be the better game, Starfield will have more longevity. It's a tale as old as Oblivion.
gameplay looks like shit
no qt girls
I would rather play shitfinder
I will buy both probably.
but first things first, starfield is a Action RPG game from Bethesda, so Starfield got all my attention.
Also theres a lot of moronic that already bought the EA of BG III
Larian already made their money with the early access sales
BG3 is Ganker's Schrodinger game
>it's already a flop but also it sold 2 million copies or whatever
>nobody cares but also stop shilling constantly
>I'm never going to touch it with a 10 ft pole but also it's a day 1 piracy
>it will never live up to BG2 but also BG2 was mediocre
>it will never live up to BG2 but also BG2 was mediocre
That's not a contraddiction, it just means it sucks
BG2 was worse than BG1, though.
The ultimate contrarian take. I kneel.
Actually I've seen a lot of people say that, they preferred the smaller stakes and more local feeling to the adventure and story in BG1. Plus Durlags Tower is the best dungeon ever made in an RPG, so there's that too.
I generally prefer BG2 to BG1, but holy frick, Durlag's Tower (and Aec'Letec) is, indeed, the best dungeon in any RPG.
>actually I've seen a lot of people say that, they preferred the smaller stakes and more local feeling to the adventure and story in BG1.
I can see liking smaller stakes but BG1 drags until you actually get to the city. And the companions are way more fleshed-out in 2 and I do think the content outside the city is better in BG2, though I don't think any individual part is quite as good as Durlag's, it's certainly better than the kinda dull zones of early-game BG1.
when people say BG2 is better 90% of the time they mean BG2+ToB. truth be told I personally can't help but cont BG1-ToB as one story.
Yeah they made 2 billion dollars, that's why they delayed it so much, for how long is in early access again ? 3 years + 2 in alpha, so like half a decade in making, they still can't write good characters, companions or a good story, the story is generic as frick, while they reused so much from Divinity 2, from UI to spells effects, this game is just Divinity 3, but keep shilling it, maybe you will get a bone from Larian
will be one of the greatest rpgs of the decade
/v/ermin as just as moronic as always can't go a single thread without spamming the same garbage posts
luckily vg exists if one wants to discuss the game
Then frick off to vg larian shill, where you can jerk each other off while talking about some shity waifu, now kys
/vg/ makes this board look good, every /vg/ thread is either avatarposting, coomposting, or cultists making the same ritual posts they've made for the last several years. I glanced at tekgen again for the first time in like 5 years a few months ago after 8 was announced and some homosexual there was still posting LOVE LOVE LILI the same as he was five fricking years ago. /vg/ posters are legitimately mentally ill.
>/vg/ makes this board look good,
Only because you're looking at inactive gens who are only kept afloat by everything you described since otherwise they get yeeted to page 11 by the gachashits. When the game actually releases and we get an active gen it's going to be 1000000000% better than the schizo threads we get on Ganker.
I'm so excited bros, it's going to be a great game and I can't wait to play the rest of it 🙂
its gonna be awesome.
I bought it, tried it, refunded it. Obnoxious unlikable characters god awful dialogue and boring customisation.
Boring is just a buzzword when you can't actually think of any real reasons as to why the game is bad, don't use it.
This is "fun is just a buzzword" tier
I'm glad you can recognize a pasta, your reward is another frick off.
Frick you
Cry about it pussy.
You are a pathetic cultist who obsessively defends this game every single time someone rightly criticizes it. The game has its good points but it also has a lot of bad points, you act as if anyone pointing those out has sinned against your fricking religion. Get a life.
Okay but it's boring is still a buzzword, don't use that.
Boring is a perfectly valid way to describe sections of this game, the combat for example is boring as frick, especially if you're a martial, since it's the garbage 5E combat system, which was designed to be as simple as possible so combat could be expedited on the tabletop after the disaster that was 4Es complex miniature based grid system. Which ironically would've been the best edition to adapt for a video game but because the TT version bombed it never happened.
Boring is a buzzword, I hate to reiterate this, but stop using buzzwords.
Boring is not a "buzzword", holy shit, it was used long before you fricking zoomers even came up with the term "buzzword" to begin with. Maybe look up the dictionary definition so you can understand what's being said rather than vomiting forth the brain damage coming out of your messages right now. Dull, uninteresting, tedious, all the things that BG3 combat is, a perfectly excellent word to represent its atrocious state. Now if you disagree maybe actually post an argument saying why you think the incredibly BORING combat is actually good you fricking Black person homosexual.
>Dull, uninteresting, tedious, all the things that BG3 combat is, a perfectly excellent word to represent its atrocious state.
Then use these words, not boring. It's really that simple. You should at the very least make the effort to pass the buzzword filter if you want to be taken seriously.
Boring is not a "buzzword" you disingenuous shill, or brain damaged zoomer, whichever it may be.
I've said my piece. If you have the vocabulary to express yourself, don't resort to buzzwords like boring or fun.
holy fricking cope, you keep arguing about the use of the word boring instead of actually talking about why it's not boring
not that guy but if your complaint is that playing melee isn't as interesting then that's basically all D&D. At least in BG3 they give martial classes special homebrew abilities to make it more interesting.
sounds interesting, like usable feats or something?
yeah, too bad there were posts after that
you could have at least tried to counter them instead of parroting the same shit
I don't owe any retort to "boring" criticisms, I'm not a trained monkey, nor am I paid by the post to defend the game. You dull, uninteresting, tedious, small-minded simpleton.
How droll.
You bore me, mageling.
Hmph.
frick off moron
yes. You get basic ones depending on which weapon type you're using and then different ones depending on class. Like battlemasters get a resource called "superiority dice" that they can spend on their martial combat abilities. They realized that d&d martial classes are kind of boring in video games so they gave them something to do in combat other than basic attacks.
Consider that the first "boring" post I was replying to didn't even mention gameplay, only "boring" customization. Which means absolutely nothing because the definition of "boring" is completely subjective and thus a buzzword.
Way more interested in BG3 than Starfield.
It's been out for 2 years you early access enabling homosexual.
Yes except for Starfield. I'm still more excited about finishing up Minecraft and Minecraft for Quake 2 than either of those, and for future games to be better than anything Bethesda can crap out of your RPG elder troll formula.
>Enter thread
>Seething from discord raiders
erry time
The more schizos a thread attracts, the more you know a game is kino
If you sliced and cooked a mind flayer would they taste more like squid or octopus?
I imagine that it'd be really bitter and not palatable at all. Which is the reason why we don't really catch or cook giant squids in the wild.
I'm excited for it but there's pretty much nothing to post about since we only have like 10% of the content until launch.
Also imagine being genuinely excited for a fricking Bethesda game in 2023
>Also imagine being genuinely excited for a fricking Bethesda game in 2023
>he says hyping up the worst form of series necromancy
these Black folk are doing as much damage to the name as beamdog.
>these Black folk are doing as much damage to the name as beamdog.
let's not go that far.
BG3 never shoves a troony in your face and no Larian companion is a fraction as annoying as Neera
I'm not going far enough. Larian is fricking lucky they have beamBlack folk to point at as worse than them.
It's hard bros. There's Armored Core 6, the. Baldurs Gate 3 a week after and Starfield another week after.
I'll just delay Starfield. Give time for community patch and other mods to come out
Why are we pretending these games have anything in common or share the same fanbases?
Why would you assume people who are interested in BG3 only play one genre of game? And Starfield is even in the same genre, it's also an RPG. Big releases coinciding with each other means if you're interested in all of the games you'll have to pick and choose what to focus on first.
And where does Armored Core fit into this parallel? I had to wiki it because I had such little interest in it I didn't even know what it was.
It's a fun game that a lot of people want to play, we just went through this, you don't have to play only one genre of game if you play video games. How is this hard for you to understand? Do you legitimately not play anything but one type of game?
>Do you legitimately not play anything but one type of game?
No but if I'm going to be excited for one game, my mind is not going to wander towards other appetizing titles like a fat girl at a all you can eat buffet. I really can't consider that type of approach as anything but bizarre consumerism if genuine.
5e was created to please the masses. If you like it, you are part of the mediocre iq mass.
Sorry bro.
I'm looking forward to it, going to play with one other friend who is a I and II fan at least and hoping to get the group I played Divinity 2 with on board as well and just have a full group
it's because baldur's gate has always been shit
all CRPGs are shit
that's a price to pay for early release.
You get only one release window hype, and it's GONE once you hit retail.
Haters gotta hate i guess.
I'll play it a few years from now when I get a ps5, my computer is a toaster
I loved divinity 2 for its combat (skipped everything else so I have literally no idea what the game is about)
will I also like bg3?
Yeah probably
nice, I've never seen a game with such unique turn based combat. stuff like having projectile characters climb to high ground for more range and crit is sick
Learn to sneak and position your party and you can play some sections as if you're actually playing thief/hitman.
>killing enemies before they can react
>putting out the lights so you can sneak better
P.S. turn based tief/hitman to be exact since you can sneak in turn based mode like you would in the pen and paper.
You probably will.
it was over a while aho, everyone already knew BG3 was going to dog shit
I do. I WILL have hot gay sex with Halsin, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Based. Apparently he might be a fling at least according to some since deleted tweets by his voice actor.
Is this another of 5E's revisions that elves can apparently bulk up to mass that would put humans to shame?
probably fits their new troon shtick tbh but it's probably just larian being actual homosexuals.
I don't know, all I know is that there are variant humans and half-orcs that have bigger builds. Halsin seems to be an exception amongst Elves so far.
Been playing Pillars of Eternity while waiting for BG3 lads. Holy shit the combat in this game is atrocious, and not even because it's RTwP. Thank God it actually has an interesting story and side quests, otherwise I would have dropped it already. It just reminds me of how unmatched Larian is in making dungeons/dragons RPG combat fun.
>Pillars of Eternity
The first one? I liked Deadfire better, unlike most people, but they both decent. And I usually dislike RTwP, but I preferred it over Deadfire's turn-based option.
Yeah the first one. Hopefully 2 is better in the combat department. I know it has a turn based option, but I'll be skipping it because I like variety and have played too many turn based rpgs recently.
Imagine if people talked about Rogue Trader this way
>wow no one is talking about Rogue Trader? lol bad game flop flop flop
why does Ganker do this
No one gives a frick about 40Kslop though.
think about why you felt compelled to reply with that
I wanted to call the 40K IP pure slop. Which it is. hence the 40Kslop bit.
I played for an hour on release of the early access, bought it, and have been patiently waiting ever since
I'm not hyped because my sense of optimism has been beaten to a bloody pulp in recent years, but I do have faith in a certain level of mechanical competence from Larian's previous output
I might be moronic for buying it, we'll see