It's an anime website, and gabriel dropout is one of the websites favorite animes, it's a shame what the later manga chapters turned into with the agressive yuribait though
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
Please give us tips
Never played a BG/DnD game before, pathfinder was really fricking confusing with all the stats and classes n shit, this seems to be overwhelming af too
DnD is actually not that complicated. As long as you understand why a dice is used, DnD games are not that different to fantasy games like WoW or even Diablo.
The shortest explaination is that you have buffs, debuffs, attacks, and some other stuff, and the dices are the random element that tells you if something works or not.
This is of course a huge simplification, but this should cover 99 % of everything. Of course there is much more and you will see a lot of different words, but DnD is just very autistic and therefore can't use the same description for minor differences.
>Please give us tips
Which of the classes seems interesting to you? Recommendations for beginner are Fighter and Barbarian if you want melee, and Bard if you want to cast spells. Don't pick monk, warlock, sorcerer, or ranger. Other classes are in the middle and can be picked if you're feeling more confident.
Just learn attribute rolls, wizards for example casts using intelligence, while warlocks use charisma, this can also be applied to normal attacks. Also learn saving trows. And don't multi-class, multi classing is for people who already know which classes get what and how that benefits one another, if you have no idea about that, it's just a sure way to gimp yourself.
That's it, the game is otherwise pretty straightforward, honestly pick whatever class you like. Some classes just have more options than others, but it's not like you won't be using those options anyway if you pick a fighter or something, there are still scrolls and other companions and most of the shit is pretty straightforward.
now that they confirmed 4 Elements has been reworked to have longevity similar to a caster and there will be gloves and magical monk items, I am all in on monk baby
going to get assfricked on Tactician, as is tradition
pick a build and play it. don't just add skills and points at random, you will get fricked. you don't need to read a guide just plan ahead. and don't multiclass unless you're sure you know what you're doing.
yeah you'll almost definitely need it if you really want to min-max. a really good way to test builds is to cheat yourself a bunch of XP and distribute points that way then just reload after you've finished testing. that way you'll notice any things you've messed up along the way.
Warlock only gets to replace STR for attacks, so you still need some STR for carry weight and armor requirements. But you can save points since you don't have to max it out.
As for progression, there are a lot of ways you can go. For example you can start with 2 levels of Paladin and then go Warlock all the way if you want. Personally I plan on playing level 7 Paladin Oath of Ancients + level 5 Warlock Archfey Pact for a Green Knight style roleplay.
Either way, the most important aspects of the build are level 2 Paladin for Smite, and level 3 Warlock for Pact of the Blade. Aside from that, I'd just look at what they give at each level to decide how much of each class you want to add.
I'm going to roleplay pic related. It's some character from MTG which I've found while looking for portraits for my Pathfinder playthrough.
I don't know much about who this guy is, but the glaive and magic combo he seems to be rocking in every image of him is peak aesthetic. I fricking love that shit.
He's supposed to be related to dragons or something. I'm not sure if I want to go Dragonborn for this, or just human (or half-elf). I'm undecided quite yet.
Well, honestly most character knowledge in MTG tends to come from flavor text on a handful of cards. It's hard getting a full story from the game alone.
I hear ya brother. Game is troony-fied. That's why I, as a virile rational right wing male, made sure that my mixed race, "good", satan worshipping, degenerate, criminal, shemale witch with brain aids took male pronouns, because he has a wiener dammit.
Seriously though, yeah there's going to be trans characters. Taking on a male form in illusion is "masc", female form is "femme", you have pronoun selection, genital customization.
>invents fake reality in his head >the very first easily obtainable piece of evidence immediately shatters it into a million pieces
You'll have YEARS of coping ahead of you, schizo, because this game is going to be a success on the level no cRPG has ever seen
Does your discord campaign with lies and false rape accusations pays off? What are you going to do tomorrow when game releases and everyone likes it? Do you enjoy being wrong every time, like it was with hogwarts, elden ring, etc?
In order for violence to work one needs power and the will to see it through.
The will already exists and I'm going pally of vengeance for that sweet sweet loicense to kill, however I really want a lot of power to create that feeling of an unstoppable avenger and I don't think I'll get that by just focusing on this class.
Into what should I multiclass then? I reckon it would have to be a charisma class like sorc.
Dunno if it matters but I was planning on going as a high half elf.
Lorewise at least, absolutely. Globohomosexual is having its way with dnd.
>Into what should I multiclass then?
Sorcerer or Warlock.
Sorcerer gives you lots of spell slots to burn in order to fuel your holy smite. Warlock lets you replace Strength for Charisma on attacks, so you can just dump everything into Charisma and not worry about other stats.
Both sounds interesting though I wonder if going sorc will worsen the already existing urgency problem I'm having (with having to keep taking too many rests for days while in theory a bomb is ticking in our heads).
Warlock has gotten my attention but how would that progression work? Start with warlock then immediately go pally?
And I can really ignore STR? Like just take 16 CON 17 CHA and maybe dump anything else into STR for weight/jump?
Warlock only gets to replace STR for attacks, so you still need some STR for carry weight and armor requirements. But you can save points since you don't have to max it out.
As for progression, there are a lot of ways you can go. For example you can start with 2 levels of Paladin and then go Warlock all the way if you want. Personally I plan on playing level 7 Paladin Oath of Ancients + level 5 Warlock Archfey Pact for a Green Knight style roleplay.
Either way, the most important aspects of the build are level 2 Paladin for Smite, and level 3 Warlock for Pact of the Blade. Aside from that, I'd just look at what they give at each level to decide how much of each class you want to add.
It's more like a sequel to Descend into Avernus than a straight up adaptation AFAIK. The tiefling refugees you meet in the early access game are from Elturel, a city that was stuck in Avernus but which was brought back to the Sword Coast at the end of DiA.
Just as much as BG2 was a dating sim because Ganker will never shut up about Viconia. It's just the one aspect that Gankercels choose to hyperfocus on.
The BG3 release is soon upon is Larianchads! HOWEVER! There are people who have died during this long wait and are not sadly able to experience the full game. I honor the fallen Larianchads.
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
If you can you should wait for a couple patches.
I can guarantee you that there will be several to many quests bugged on release.
By then there will also be several QoL mods released that will literally improve the game, im not even talking about coom mods (those will pop early too) but literally improvements to the game.
Other than that the usual try to enjoy the trip not the destination on your first playthrough, make the character you want you probably wont need to min/max shit for any encounter of the game.
Dunno just try to enjoy it.
I’m debating between Oathbreaker Paladin or Necromancer Wizard. Larian has homebrewed improvements to Necromancer, to really allow you to raise a horde.
This doesn't mean what you think it means. We already know from EA that the companions sleep with each other. What Larian means here is that characters will never have their romance options closed off to the player because they are having an intimate romance with another NPC. They still have casual sex and flirt with one another.
Unless you are seriously suggesting Larian is just removing a shitload of content from the game just for launch, because people are deathly afraid of being cuckolded or something.
>Unless you are seriously suggesting Larian is just removing a shitload of content from the game just for launch
Literally voicelines. They recasted Wyll. They sure as frick can get rid of the soap opera-tier drama.
Is Shadowheart Larian's answer to Lydia ? I bought the game on Steam because I like the general concept of the game and how its not complete trash like most of the other pozzed western games now, but I feel like a DRM free pirate release a few months later after the inevitable bugs are removed may actually be superior to Steam, the reason is that when Steam force updates the game it can break your mods like what always happens with Skyrim.
>https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Guidance >Shadow is a cleric >she gets to cast guidance as much as she wants >guidance gives you a 1 to 4 bonus on ability checks
It's that easy, homie.
> Can I cast it on my main char while he is in dialog, and about to do a speech check?
Yes, it does it automatically as long as you click on the party member and the spell
[...]
Shill campaign.
It's very transparent just by looking at the sentence structure and their tendency to immediately dismiss and perform damage control on anything that can be perceived as criticism.
Where did Swen Vincke touch you?
9 months ago
Anonymous
THIS IS MY LAST COPE
Case in point. Even suggesting Bg3 has anything warranting criticism gets you labeled as some kind of larian hater or seething rival faction with q
a grudge
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're one b***h ass homie. >browse BG3 threads >b***h about people talking about BG3
9 months ago
Anonymous
>"everyone who enjoys things is a shill!" >cope harder, moron >"nooooo stop you're suppressing my warranted criticism about the game this isn't fair!"
How did you grow up to be such a massive pussy? Did your mother breastfeed you until you were 25?
You don't have to do anything, in dialogue check roll it's automatically shows up. But I wouldn't agree that +1d4 automatically makes you pass most dialogue checks like that anon said. I guess you have to make a decision - if you want peaceful playtrough and skip battles, go for CHA character. If you like combat go for anyone. There are plenty other cool dialogue stuff for other classes. Barb gets aggressive unga bunga intimidation options, devs said that evill god clerics get a lot of cool stuff, wizards get trough int checks, etc.
Avoid THIS: > OoD Paladin 6, Warlock 3, Berserker 3 > Raged, Hasted, Wyvern Poison Coated, GWM, Sacred Weaponed, +2 Greatsword > No Bless, no GWF (which can reroll smite damage), no loviatar buff, no grit helmet buff, no tadpole power > Target: AC 19 Dragon > 2 main action attacks x2 + 1 extra action attack = 5 > To hit: -5 (GW) +5 (Sacred Weapon) +5 (CHA) +4 (proficiency) +2 (enhance) + Advantage (reckless) > Damage: 2d6 (sword) + 10 (GWM) + 5 (CHA) + 4 (Proficiency) + 3d8 (Smites) + 2 (Raged) + 2 (enhance) + 3d6 (poison) > But wait, you have 8 fricking spell slots so you can do this AGAIN in the next round (if there is any) (this part is to jab at gloom assassin keks)
Shill campaign.
It's very transparent just by looking at the sentence structure and their tendency to immediately dismiss and perform damage control on anything that can be perceived as criticism.
1) He's a black male, and most people don't want black males in their party. Even the girls and gays are too busy thirsting over Astarion and Halsin to notice him.
2) He's a Warlock, and Warlocks are one of the most popular choices for the player character so people don't want to double up.
3) His personality is kind of bland compared to the rest. Sure he's doped up on illegal Warlock juice from a demon, but all he really wants is to be a cool good guy. He's not an edgy twink like Astarion or a smooth-talking narcissist like Gale, he's just some guy who wants to be the hero.
His story is pretty interesting IMO, but people sleep on it. I think most players dump him after his introduction because he just seems uninteresting at first glance.
As well as this other issues, you also meet him by the time you’ve got your party comp sorted.
At the very least you’ll have fought one major battle, and you’ll almost certainly have done a dungeon with them.
Wyll doesn’t fulfil any role the others don’t, which makes it even worse for him.
Yeah. Whenever there's a close up of his face ingame, I look at him in disgust sometimes. It doesn't help that his personality is evil aligned so whenever I come across the monster hunter guy I gladly give Astarion to him. Though, I'am curious on if we can hand Astarion personally to his master once we reach Baldurs gate.
Avoid THIS: > OoD Paladin 6, Warlock 3, Berserker 3 > Raged, Hasted, Wyvern Poison Coated, GWM, Sacred Weaponed, +2 Greatsword > No Bless, no GWF (which can reroll smite damage), no loviatar buff, no grit helmet buff, no tadpole power > Target: AC 19 Dragon > 2 main action attacks x2 + 1 extra action attack = 5 > To hit: -5 (GW) +5 (Sacred Weapon) +5 (CHA) +4 (proficiency) +2 (enhance) + Advantage (reckless) > Damage: 2d6 (sword) + 10 (GWM) + 5 (CHA) + 4 (Proficiency) + 3d8 (Smites) + 2 (Raged) + 2 (enhance) + 3d6 (poison) > But wait, you have 8 fricking spell slots so you can do this AGAIN in the next round (if there is any) (this part is to jab at gloom assassin keks)
>not cast spells
I'm.. sorta am? I only have the ea experience which is rather limited but I don't recall having to keep recasting all the time, especially because I wasn't in the mood of having to keep taking long rest after every single encounter.
I'm thinking using whatever needs to be used right at the start, then going into postal mode and finishing the fight.
crpgs are extremely pozzed, even by western triple A standards.
There are cacon trannies. All the paladins donned in european armor have to be sudanese or angolan. There are cacon lesbian marriages. Morality is defunct. Not liking orcs is racist. There is no evil. Morality is relativistic. Homosexual bestiality. Sodomy.
WotC is also arguably the most pozzed company in the industry.
>not engaging in sodomy is an exclusively puritan christian value >not accepting men-in-wigs are women is an exclusively puritan christian value >not subscribing to Black person-worship and blackwashing away european heritage, is an exclusively puritan christian value
Why are these games banned in dozens of non-christian countries, then?
Why are the companies in question confident in posting troony and gay flags in christian countries, but wouldn't dare do the same in non-christian countries?
Why do the game companies don troony/gay profile pictures on twitter, when it comes to their US or european profiles (allegedly christian countries), but their twitter handles for the rest of the world make sure not to don troony/gay profile pictures?
Genuinely curious.
Yes, that's why they are quite literally hanging them and tossing them off rooftops in muslim and SEA countries.
Peak mental illness, the anal worms and ethylestradiol are eating away at your brain matter, sodomite.
>dnd is european heritage
DnD is quite literally a codification of european mythohistory, you brown shitskin.
Paladins, monks, wizards, orcs, trolls, druids, dwarves, elves, knights, rangers, necromancers, they are all european themes. You have to be extremely delusional to assert otherwise.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Do you...think D&D used to champion Islamic beliefs? Is there a stat block for Muhammad?
are you really gonna stretch so far that you literally would rather suck off MEA and SEA shitholes (no homo) than accept people can do whatever the frick they want?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You asserted that all other cultures, save for puritan christian cultures, are accepting of sodomy.
I demonstrated that was evidently false and not factual.
You proceeded to amateurishly deflect.
How does that make you look?
9 months ago
Anonymous
shitholes are irrelevant so yeah demonstrate something of value perhaps
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yet another deflection.
Your original assertion was proven to be false.
Moreover, it was demonstrated that christian nations are evidently the most tolerant nations on the planet.
Ipso facto, you are purporting the inverse of observable reality.
Keep flailing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>DnD is quite literally a codification of european mythohistory
you do understand that it's just a bunch of burger nerds basically grabbing what is popular in popculture and shoving into their setting? They've made monk class because kung fu movies were trendy at the time.
This is a thread about a video game called bg3 based on the D&D tabletop game.
If you want to rent about the state of the western society, there are boards for that.
I am referring to the video-game and make inferences based on the video-game. You can forgo the concern-trolling, and go on and report me regardless, troony.
We all know who runs the board, and we all know the janitors and the mod are quite literally autogynephile transsexuals. Just skip the histrionics, no one's buying it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The video game has nothing to do with you rant.
Bg2 had blacks and stronl womyn.
Elminster literally spent some time as a woman back in the adnd days.
Every single "degenerate" thing in bg3 has had at least one example in forgotten realms before you were even born.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ergo, why I asserted that crpgs are arguably the most pozzed video-games in the games industry.
You are stumbling all over yourself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm talking about tabletop rpgs you moron.
DnD has had those things since the 90s at the very least. Maybe even 80s for some stuff.
None of that shit was considered anything special before you morons radicalized yourselves in 2014
9 months ago
Anonymous
Procure source material that tabletop RPGs had homosexual relationships and transsexuals in the 80s and 90s.
If you are going to astroturf, I will make you work for it.
Its a good thing BG3 has some of the most cartoonishly evil people out there. Larian writing is full "ogres eating people and witches cooking children in giant pots" tier and I love it.
It's the effect of words losing their original meaning over the years and being adapted to different cultures and languages. Technically both are correct. t. greek
yeah I fricking hate larian's animations. even if the character casting magic is a fricking paladin wearing heavy armor he suddenly starts performing interpretive dance and wildly flailing around. dos2 was the same.
Don't multiclass if you don't know what your doing, a feat has to be REALLY worth it to be worth +2 on your main stat.
If you manage to have an odd stat try to nab a feat that gives +1 to it if you can
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
Alright, so as OP you'll have an urge to be a homosexual, don't do that.
True Strike is worthless.
You can only concentrate on one spell, but not all spells are concentration.
DON'T OPEN. IT.
Whoever recommended me that pathfinder shit, frick you, the voice acting and writing is fricking awful who the frick thinks that shit is acceptable? Literal moron tier writing and acting.
Who fricking wrote that shit??? It's like it's for 10 year olds wtf man
It's the fricking writing, and voice acting, holy shit I only managed 40 minutes, they talk like Saturday morning cartoon characters, it's like a fricking cartoon for 10 year olds, who the frick thought this shit was a good idea? I genuinely want to know who wrote this, this person is a legit schizoid, frick me.
I've played Pillars and BG 1/2, Icewind dale, you have to be a fricking legit 80 IQ non-English speaker if you think whatever the frick Owlcat does could even be considered sane, it's terribad.
>Filtered
Oh yes, the black woman Paladin who can't voice act and screaming her basic English studies for 10 year olds dialogue at me filtered the frick out of me, thank God, money saved.
Alright, it's strange how overpowered DEX is then, it does way more than all other stats >Initiative >both ranged and finessable weapon AB AND damage >AC >Stealth which is broken af in BG3 >helps avoid a lot of spell damage
sure but its still going to do less dmg than a strength based two hander wielding martial class
full plate gives more AC than any dex+light armor combination
it's closer in this game then ever, Athletics is second to only persuasion, jump gives bonus movement, shoving is also stronger then ever.
Yeah but dex is still as strong
Hi guys.
I just got 1 question, im playing the demo right now and i noticed there is no "night" in the game.
Am i doing something wrong? i have to click somewhere to rest until its dark or something?
please dont yell at me if the answer is obvious.
what the frick were these Black folk at larian doing all these years, then? recording thousands of hours of cringe reddit cutscenes, and forgot to build a game around these cutscenes?
learn to read Black person and then you will understand Black person Black person?
9 months ago
Anonymous
I did read and is sounded like a load of nonsense. Like there's a demo out you would have to be either a colossal moron or a shitposter to say what you say and you just happen to be both. Good day.
.... there is no day/night cycle in BG3?
please tell me you're joking.
moving shadows would probably break the game, dunno
what the frick were these Black folk at larian doing all these years, then? recording thousands of hours of cringe reddit cutscenes, and forgot to build a game around these cutscenes?
>out in ~1 day
where are the reviews?
surely this isn’t a cyberpunk scenario where reviewers are not legally allowed to publish their reviews until after the game is released because the game is actually trash?
how 'good' was it?
performance issues I'd say ppl in general can handle due to the game not requiring snap actions
broken quests/classes though.. were there stuff like this?
They're all frantically playing the game. Larian only gave them 4 (or 6?) days to play through it and cook up a review. A game as massive as this needs at minimum 2 weeks to play through the story and get a good grasp of all of its components. Wouldn't be surprised if some reviews drop the score by a few points for dumping so much work on them. On the bright side, this means we get a leak and spoiler free free launch.
>They gave their last hope to a man who thinks he's a woman and gloats on his twitter about how he'll put more gay stuff in the game
They've been dead. I wonder if they're going to take ideals from Baldurs gate 3 and put it in their game. They clearly tried taking some things from God of war.
Shadowheart, follower of an evil goddess. Has amnesia, and is a much softer, kinder person than she lets on, or possibly realizes.
Lae'Zel, Githyanki warrior. She acts the part of a tough b***h, but it turns out she hasn't even completed her trial to become properly accepted by her people as a warrior. Naive, and knows nothing of the culture on Faerun.
Minthara, best girl.
I know this might sound stupid, but are there any party members in this game that are actually cool? Literally all of them are either sexy tieflings or vaguely homoerotic men, from what I've seen.
I want a big burly knight or paladin who is hell-bent on bringing justice against sinners. I want a berserker that will go mad at the slightest disagreement. I want a cut-throat assassin or rogue who would cut my dick off for a quarter.
Its funny
Some people are complaining that all the characters are ugly c**ts
While you think they're too hot and nice
Anyway play dark urge and kill them all
not really, I expect them to become cool. Character progression is to be expected, I expect astarian to be pretty based once he fricks up the vampire lord or whatever
What's the weapon situation? I want to play a Berserker. I assume I pick a heavy weapon. Am I encouraged to specialize in a single one or can I choose freely from all heavy weapons?
You get specific weapon proficiency per class, and also by race you can also take some proficiencies as a feat. Think barbarians get great axes, two handed great swords, clubs dual weild axe, and a few other martial weapons.
The females in the game are indistinguishable from males in terms of behavior and character.
They are confrontational, loud, aggressive, arrogant, and hot-headed.
Women design female characters like the men they are attracted to, and they can't even conceptualize the cognitive dissonance, let alone hope to reconcile it.
So, yes, technically you can engage in lesbian relationships, but they are functionally heterosexual relationships.
It's fascinating that you think ad hominem about alleged inability to get sex are effective.
You resetera migrants have overused them to such an extent that they've lost all bite.
It's hilarious too, since this insult has been wildly effective throughout recorded history, and has been used by women for literal millennia, only to have men-in-wigs finally render it impotent.
People like you are so funny. I literally played Planescape Torment a few days ago, and I know for a fact that you people never complained about characters like Annah or Fall-From-Grace.
>Are the women in BG3 feminine, gentle, demure, nurturing, and submissive? >What are traditionally feminine behavioral traits? >Are the women in BG3 masculinized, aggressive, confrontational, argumentative, and arrogant? >What are traditionally masculine behavioral traits?
I farted just now and I think it may have been a shart
Thank you kindly for demonstrating how cognitively insolvent you are.
Without mentally ill activists like (you), lurkers might have astroturfed without engaging in deductive reasoning. But, when they see exchanges like this, they can put two and two together.
I couldn't do it without you, thanks again.
9 months ago
Anonymous
God frick I think it's a shart
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm also able to open a thesaurus and fancy myself a scholarly individual but is there a point
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's fascinating that you generational dysgenic mongrels are actually proud of your illiteracy and kindergarden-level lexicon.
You are so obsessed with victimhood and the deification of the downtrodden, that you quite literally gloat about your lack of literary skills.
I agree with what you are saying but we are not playing medieval dynasty.
Considering we have constantly face deadly encounters it is to be expected then that the members will be a bit cuckos on the head/different from the usual.
The only possible role I could perhaps see fitting here would be to make a very gentle 'pure healer' type of girl and I wonder how popular she would be..
That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
Introspect.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Im not reading this but shadowheart a is nice person in a goth teen phase.
Maybe you remember her earlier been a c**t but she has been rewritten
The tiefling girl, despite looking buff, is actually basically also a nice girl who likes girly things like dates and romance.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It IS a good point that since its fantastical 'anything is possible'.
As to why they simply leave like this now, full of women with masculine traits, it could be ofc due political preferences, be internal or due to fear of external, or it could also just not wanting to create "boring" characters (in their mind).
All I'm saying is that considering the circumstances, it does make sense for characters to be a bit off, but indeed it does not make sense to not have completely feminine women since ofc it is fantasy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Since it's fantasy and anything's possible, why would they ever default to masculinized female characters that exhibit masculine behavioral traits, save for ideological reasons?
Masculinized women are not attractive to men.
Masculinized women are not representative of femininity, and female nature.
Men make up 96% of the player base, so the decision cannot possibly be profit-based.
When women actually play video-games, they naturally gravitate towards feminine women with feminine agency, regardless of what "token" women decry on social media or investor meetings/BoD meetings. So, it can't possibly be about representation either, since if women actually felt represented, they'd engage with the masculinized characters. Instead, they obsessively gravitate towards family-building games like the Sims, or cutesy games without adversity, like Animal Crossing.
Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological, with the impetus being social engineering.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological
which is why I'm not giving them my money
9 months ago
Anonymous
i think that's because by default player character should be advantageous and dominant (which are masculine traits), so all the origin characters should also exhibit these traits so they are more likely to be picked as a player character. It's an adventure, after all.
[...]
Thank you kindly for demonstrating how cognitively insolvent you are.
Without mentally ill activists like (you), lurkers might have astroturfed without engaging in deductive reasoning. But, when they see exchanges like this, they can put two and two together.
I couldn't do it without you, thanks again.
That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
Introspect.
Since it's fantasy and anything's possible, why would they ever default to masculinized female characters that exhibit masculine behavioral traits, save for ideological reasons?
Masculinized women are not attractive to men.
Masculinized women are not representative of femininity, and female nature.
Men make up 96% of the player base, so the decision cannot possibly be profit-based.
When women actually play video-games, they naturally gravitate towards feminine women with feminine agency, regardless of what "token" women decry on social media or investor meetings/BoD meetings. So, it can't possibly be about representation either, since if women actually felt represented, they'd engage with the masculinized characters. Instead, they obsessively gravitate towards family-building games like the Sims, or cutesy games without adversity, like Animal Crossing.
Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological, with the impetus being social engineering.
you are a fricking moron, hate pozzism all you want, but the women in the game are fantasy warriors, they are not going to be demure princesses you c**t
I already addressed that infantile argument.
Story-tellers have had no issue portraying feminine women as fantastical warriors, or strong characters overcoming adversity. They didn't feel the need to masculinize them. Moreover, current female characterization is a caricature of the masculine behavioral modus, not the gamut of masculine traits.
Most male characters in our literary history were not argumentative, combative, arrogant, or confrontational. They went through a traditional hero's journey, and they traditionally had mentors, which would help them out of the functionally negative masculine traits, or help them hone those functionally negative masculine traits into new ones. Arrogance would be replaced with wisdom, conviction, and steadfastness. Combative aggression would be replaced with measured violence, strength to protect, and power to defend and uphold ideals. Hotheaded risk-seeking would be replaced with contemplative introspection, assuredness, and confidence.
Modern writers are embracing the caricature, because women are incapable of telling the difference. They are attracted to arrogance, risk-seeking, aggression. Those are the traits they conceptualize as masculine. So, in the feminist inversion, women were called to subsume those very traits and don them as their own. That has eventually permeated to culture, and the codified dogma has made it into video-game design.
Ergo, video-game designers are incapable of creating any other kind of woman. The only kind permissible, is a woman that skinwalks as a caricature of a man.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>They didn't feel the need to masculinize them
I can't stress how important that sentence is.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>They didn't feel the need to masculinize them
I can't stress how important that sentence is.
there is a word for what you are doing. Gish-Gallop. you dont actually know what the characters are and so you spam words and paragraphs to make what you are talking about as obscure as possible.
TLDR: you said absoloutly nothing in relation to the actual characters in the game, only what you imagine them to be, you fricking crein
9 months ago
Anonymous
*cretin
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's evidently not what I have been doing, since I have accurately described the female characters in BG3, and the impetus behind their design.
If you actually believed I'd been engaging in gish-gallop, you'd pick the weakest of my arguments and dismantle it, and by extension extrapolated the methodology to the entire gamut.
You are incapable of doing that, though, because my arguments have been sound and based on readily available empirical allusions and inferences.
You are painfully aware female design is deeply ideological, and obviously feminist, so you opt not to engage, because the examples I could bring forth are in the several hundreds.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, you haven't, your weakest argument? pretending to know the characters despite NEVER playing the game. Shut your c**t hole you are wrong about everything fricking moron you are RIDICULOUS
>indistinguishable from males in terms of behavior and character. >They are confrontational, loud, aggressive, arrogant, and hot-headed
do you also believe that irl "Karen" archetype which is basically all those traits are some kind of psyop and therefore are not real?
What sort of argument is that?
There exist masculinized, loud, arrogant, confrontational, and aggressive women in real life. Precisely because they have been obsessively indoctrinated into those behavioral modalities.
Likewise, game developers are portraying women in video-games with those behavioral modalities, because they are ideologically aligned with the academics and scholars that have created this phenomenon in the first place.
Video-games are a vehicle for propaganda. They get more eyeballs than movies, and most of those eyeballs are of the key demographic. They are the perfect vehicle for social engineering, normalization, and demoralization/agitation propaganda.
>i dont think owlcats
Shills? They unironically ran threads 24/7 on Ganker and /vg/ and just stopped today because they need to focus on the next game, nobody gives a frick about troonfinder shit it was literally paid shills.
It's on gog for free. Seen doesn't mind if you pirate it, he said he's pirated thousands if games and even cracked some, so he said it would be hypocritical of him to be against it.
>That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
[...]
Thank you kindly for demonstrating how cognitively insolvent you are.
Without mentally ill activists like (you), lurkers might have astroturfed without engaging in deductive reasoning. But, when they see exchanges like this, they can put two and two together.
>That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
>Since it's fantasy and anything's possible, why would they ever default to masculinized female characters that exhibit masculine behavioral traits, save for ideological reasons?
>Masculinized women are not attractive to men. >Masculinized women are not representative of femininity, and female nature. >Men make up 96% of the player base, so the decision cannot possibly be profit-based. >When women actually play video-games, they naturally gravitate towards feminine women with feminine agency, regardless of what "token" women decry on social media or investor meetings/BoD meetings. So, it can't possibly be about representation either, since if women actually felt represented, they'd engage with the masculinized characters. Instead, they obsessively gravitate towards family-building games like the Sims, or cutesy games without adversity, like Animal Crossing. >Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological, with the impetus being social engineering.
Anything that doesn't specifically state allies or enemies will hit everything, you can also tell by which targets become outlined when they're in the spells area.
I meant possibly loweing DEX/INT to 8 and putting the rest into WIS, dunno how much you cna do it.
Cha gives you bonus spell slots and makes you smite spells stronger. Not needed, as they are all worse than divine smite.int 8 and wis up, if you intended to 0lay divine smite. Like this you play a caster and fighter paladin. Funny, but less effective than divine smite only.
Consider multiclass bard or sorceror. Than you can keep high cha and it's actually useful.
Your most needed attribute is strength by far.
If you dump cha, pump wis. The most important save is wis save.
>The most important save is wis save
Doesn't saves come from CHA in the paladin?
Cha gives you bonus spell slots and makes you smite spells stronger. Not needed, as they are all worse than divine smite.int 8 and wis up, if you intended to 0lay divine smite. Like this you play a caster and fighter paladin. Funny, but less effective than divine smite only.
Consider multiclass bard or sorceror. Than you can keep high cha and it's actually useful.
Your most needed attribute is strength by far.
If you dump cha, pump wis. The most important save is wis save.
I meant possibly loweing DEX/INT to 8 and putting the rest into WIS, dunno how much you cna do it.
[...] >The most important save is wis save
Doesn't saves come from CHA in the paladin?
You wish. They add Profiency to all their cha saves.
I'm thinking about delving into warlock to use CHA for attack (and due to dialog ofc), how does this look?
I'd like to keep heavy armor and 2h great weapon though, do I perhaps need more STR to use them or could I even dump it a bit more?
Looking at the wiki I'm not seeing anything about needing X STR for heavy armor or heavy weapons..
DEX then for a bit more initiative I guess
I will be dumping that STR to 10 in the future if it becomes possible but dont think 'standard' STR will be enough for heavy armor
9 months ago
Anonymous
Final stats in case anyone is looking at this
I had messed a few things up by not setting some stuff before playing with the stats, but I think this will be my final form
High half elf, paladin of vengeance, warlock and possibly zerker though I'm not sure
What color dragon for Sorc, lariansisters?
I'd think blue/bronze would be best for lightning, but then there's no ranged cantrip that can utilize the elemental bonus.
I like how no one addressed the fact that the only 'masculinized' female companion is Lae'zel, the rest are feminine.
Its almost like these culture warriors don't actually play videogames, and should be banned from the video game board.
avoid playing it homosexual
I will pirate
Thank you for speaking what i would have said myself
>in 2 days
It comes out tomorrow, anon
it comes out in a week and a half
in how many hours?
2 hours?
If you are from the future, yes.
frick
What the frick is the point of that thing in the background being there?
>120gb download
In 2 days.
bears
It's an anime website, and gabriel dropout is one of the websites favorite animes, it's a shame what the later manga chapters turned into with the agressive yuribait though
>and gabriel dropout is one of the websites favorite animes
have a nice day normalgay election tourist
t. snakegay
Oh wait I see you're upset I used animes as a plural
anime isn't a japanese word it's an english word based on a japanese word, animes is correct.
Imagine the first thing you say when you see something you disagree with being muh election tourists muh /misc/
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
Please give us tips
Never played a BG/DnD game before, pathfinder was really fricking confusing with all the stats and classes n shit, this seems to be overwhelming af too
DnD is actually not that complicated. As long as you understand why a dice is used, DnD games are not that different to fantasy games like WoW or even Diablo.
The shortest explaination is that you have buffs, debuffs, attacks, and some other stuff, and the dices are the random element that tells you if something works or not.
This is of course a huge simplification, but this should cover 99 % of everything. Of course there is much more and you will see a lot of different words, but DnD is just very autistic and therefore can't use the same description for minor differences.
>Please give us tips
Which of the classes seems interesting to you? Recommendations for beginner are Fighter and Barbarian if you want melee, and Bard if you want to cast spells. Don't pick monk, warlock, sorcerer, or ranger. Other classes are in the middle and can be picked if you're feeling more confident.
Also, don't multiclass.
Anon it's not that hard, read your tool tips because they explain shit. Like how a plus 1 weapon works or what advantages are.
Pathfinder is a spreadsheet simulator. DnD, by comparison, is much simpler. And this BG3 is much more simplified. It has less class for one.
Just learn attribute rolls, wizards for example casts using intelligence, while warlocks use charisma, this can also be applied to normal attacks. Also learn saving trows. And don't multi-class, multi classing is for people who already know which classes get what and how that benefits one another, if you have no idea about that, it's just a sure way to gimp yourself.
That's it, the game is otherwise pretty straightforward, honestly pick whatever class you like. Some classes just have more options than others, but it's not like you won't be using those options anyway if you pick a fighter or something, there are still scrolls and other companions and most of the shit is pretty straightforward.
now that they confirmed 4 Elements has been reworked to have longevity similar to a caster and there will be gloves and magical monk items, I am all in on monk baby
going to get assfricked on Tactician, as is tradition
Female Drow Monk
pick a build and play it. don't just add skills and points at random, you will get fricked. you don't need to read a guide just plan ahead. and don't multiclass unless you're sure you know what you're doing.
there's ingame respec for 1k gold or someshit, should be okay to experiment and frick around, right?
yeah you'll almost definitely need it if you really want to min-max. a really good way to test builds is to cheat yourself a bunch of XP and distribute points that way then just reload after you've finished testing. that way you'll notice any things you've messed up along the way.
Will you roleplay as your favorite fictional character.
I'm going to do Bejita + Monk class
Greatsword Barbarian hunting all the infected for their tadpoles
There can be only one
Yes but I can't decide which one and Eldritch Knight seems a bit shitter than Battle master.
Githyanki Monotheist GOO-Lock Fighter, slayer of the Faerunian pagans and their gods.
See
for my first character.
>RP Bejita
>picks the weakest melee class
Checks out
For me it's son Goku! Starting monk but dipping into barb for kaioken.
I'm translating my actual D&D character in my tabletop game into this.
What class?
>roleplay as vegeta
are you actually going to lose every single fight? how are you even supposed to beat the game ?
3-0
THREE ZERO
Orewa.. suuupa Bejita!!
I'm going to roleplay pic related. It's some character from MTG which I've found while looking for portraits for my Pathfinder playthrough.
I don't know much about who this guy is, but the glaive and magic combo he seems to be rocking in every image of him is peak aesthetic. I fricking love that shit.
Half gith?
He's supposed to be related to dragons or something. I'm not sure if I want to go Dragonborn for this, or just human (or half-elf). I'm undecided quite yet.
Half elf wood is power gamer choice. Dragonborn is flavour and looks.
>RPing a character you don't know
Riiiiight...
It's not that I don't know him at all, all I know is from his wiki page, that's about it. I don't play MTG.
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Sarkhan_Vol
Well, honestly most character knowledge in MTG tends to come from flavor text on a handful of cards. It's hard getting a full story from the game alone.
Can you shut the frick up shills? I already have BG3 fatigue and i really wanted to play that game.
no
lol
Aight, i'll pirate it, no money for you employer
I don't care lol
millions sold
you= mad
Don't choke on that much copium troonshill
The mental illness surrounding this game is staggering
Is this a troony game or not?
The only people interested in it are trans, so yeh.
every game is a troony game
It has trannies/homosexuals but you can just kill them off, which is exactly what I'm intending to do in my first (and probably only) run
It is a woke game in essence, yes. If still interested just don't buy it.
I hear ya brother. Game is troony-fied. That's why I, as a virile rational right wing male, made sure that my mixed race, "good", satan worshipping, degenerate, criminal, shemale witch with brain aids took male pronouns, because he has a wiener dammit.
Seriously though, yeah there's going to be trans characters. Taking on a male form in illusion is "masc", female form is "femme", you have pronoun selection, genital customization.
is it as kino as DoS2?
One of the few true examples of a filtering
>didn't manage to save that guy in my first run
>saved him on my second run I did a few weeks ago in anticipation for bg3
Feels good man
>suicide prevention hotline: the fight
>weeb shit in the OP
>>>Ganker stay on your containment board
uh oh
imagine believing in steam chart
>the voices in my head are always right
>any evidence to the contrary is fake
Cool.
Utterly bearbroken.
>invents fake reality in his head
>the very first easily obtainable piece of evidence immediately shatters it into a million pieces
You'll have YEARS of coping ahead of you, schizo, because this game is going to be a success on the level no cRPG has ever seen
lmao
ropening day soon, sissy
This is a great example of conspiracy theorist mindset. You seriously believe that everything that disproves your point of view is a lie.
>Imagine believing in available metrics instead of my schizophrenia
Yeah, imagine that.
This is why we're doomed. morons like this walk among us.
Meds
Does your discord campaign with lies and false rape accusations pays off? What are you going to do tomorrow when game releases and everyone likes it? Do you enjoy being wrong every time, like it was with hogwarts, elden ring, etc?
seeth cope etc
Reading the book does not explain the game
Kill every single druid.
That's nuts
I'm deffo burning that whole grove to the ground.
is it true that 5e is terrible compared 3.5e?
In order for violence to work one needs power and the will to see it through.
The will already exists and I'm going pally of vengeance for that sweet sweet loicense to kill, however I really want a lot of power to create that feeling of an unstoppable avenger and I don't think I'll get that by just focusing on this class.
Into what should I multiclass then? I reckon it would have to be a charisma class like sorc.
Dunno if it matters but I was planning on going as a high half elf.
Lorewise at least, absolutely. Globohomosexual is having its way with dnd.
>Into what should I multiclass then?
Sorcerer or Warlock.
Sorcerer gives you lots of spell slots to burn in order to fuel your holy smite. Warlock lets you replace Strength for Charisma on attacks, so you can just dump everything into Charisma and not worry about other stats.
Both sounds interesting though I wonder if going sorc will worsen the already existing urgency problem I'm having (with having to keep taking too many rests for days while in theory a bomb is ticking in our heads).
Warlock has gotten my attention but how would that progression work? Start with warlock then immediately go pally?
And I can really ignore STR? Like just take 16 CON 17 CHA and maybe dump anything else into STR for weight/jump?
Warlock only gets to replace STR for attacks, so you still need some STR for carry weight and armor requirements. But you can save points since you don't have to max it out.
As for progression, there are a lot of ways you can go. For example you can start with 2 levels of Paladin and then go Warlock all the way if you want. Personally I plan on playing level 7 Paladin Oath of Ancients + level 5 Warlock Archfey Pact for a Green Knight style roleplay.
Either way, the most important aspects of the build are level 2 Paladin for Smite, and level 3 Warlock for Pact of the Blade. Aside from that, I'd just look at what they give at each level to decide how much of each class you want to add.
Got it, thank you
It's basically the same game as 3.5, except dumbed down so it's really hard to accidentally make a bad build.
So is this game a glorified dating simulator or?
It's a game based on a DND book
which book?
descent into avernus iirc
Ah frick that one is a bit shit imo
It's more like a sequel to Descend into Avernus than a straight up adaptation AFAIK. The tiefling refugees you meet in the early access game are from Elturel, a city that was stuck in Avernus but which was brought back to the Sword Coast at the end of DiA.
Just as much as BG2 was a dating sim because Ganker will never shut up about Viconia. It's just the one aspect that Gankercels choose to hyperfocus on.
you don't have to romance anyone.
Only if you want it to be.
W-wait for me, I still have to play the 2nd game
The BG3 release is soon upon is Larianchads! HOWEVER! There are people who have died during this long wait and are not sadly able to experience the full game. I honor the fallen Larianchads.
F
Raise a drink for all Frens who have died.
They will play it from the shadows but they’re always by our side
Look
Basically I'm just not gonna multiclass (in baldur's gate 3)
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know..... UGH I know.....
It's just that minmaxing is gay!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
me too cause i get sunk cost fallacy why would i not just be rlly good at my one thing
I haven't because i still haven't finished BG2
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
If you can you should wait for a couple patches.
I can guarantee you that there will be several to many quests bugged on release.
By then there will also be several QoL mods released that will literally improve the game, im not even talking about coom mods (those will pop early too) but literally improvements to the game.
Other than that the usual try to enjoy the trip not the destination on your first playthrough, make the character you want you probably wont need to min/max shit for any encounter of the game.
Dunno just try to enjoy it.
>day before launch
>0 leaks
>on a DRM free game
But why though? Just leak it already
>DRM free
I have to admit this game can be kinda based sometimes.
and lose the $$ from the schizos that can't handle the slow initial piracy speed while steam's max cap is just a few clicks away?
lol no
For me its a bane cleric with war domain
What a disgusting photo.
What an arousing photo.
Bane...?
The gauntlet man
Evil god of tyranny
More like why people connect anime to trannies. That is mental ilness of its own.
Best classes for evil characters?
Paladin (forma de romper el juramento)
I’m debating between Oathbreaker Paladin or Necromancer Wizard. Larian has homebrewed improvements to Necromancer, to really allow you to raise a horde.
This is what I'm going to do to the gay vampire
>stole your shadowwife
GAYle aren't stealing shit. Especially with a missing hand.
Cuckposters eternally BTFO.
This doesn't mean what you think it means. We already know from EA that the companions sleep with each other. What Larian means here is that characters will never have their romance options closed off to the player because they are having an intimate romance with another NPC. They still have casual sex and flirt with one another.
Unless you are seriously suggesting Larian is just removing a shitload of content from the game just for launch, because people are deathly afraid of being cuckolded or something.
This guy creeps me the frick out
Don't talk about my homie Sceleritas like that.
He's just a silly little guy. You're gonna have beef with a silly little guy? For shame.
>Unless you are seriously suggesting Larian is just removing a shitload of content from the game just for launch
Literally voicelines. They recasted Wyll. They sure as frick can get rid of the soap opera-tier drama.
I'm totally gonna penetrate his rectum with my penis, if you know what I mean.
Im gonna play as gale
>t. can't see the apple
Is Shadowheart Larian's answer to Lydia ? I bought the game on Steam because I like the general concept of the game and how its not complete trash like most of the other pozzed western games now, but I feel like a DRM free pirate release a few months later after the inevitable bugs are removed may actually be superior to Steam, the reason is that when Steam force updates the game it can break your mods like what always happens with Skyrim.
You can disable auto update I think.
Tfw have to play charisma class so I don't miss out on the speech persuation checks
You can pass most checks with a Guidance-bot like Shadowheart in your party
Please explain in detail
>https://baldursgate3.wiki.fextralife.com/Guidance
>Shadow is a cleric
>she gets to cast guidance as much as she wants
>guidance gives you a 1 to 4 bonus on ability checks
It's that easy, homie.
Don't you have to keep recasting it? Can I cast it on my main char while he is in dialog, and about to do a speech check?
> Can I cast it on my main char while he is in dialog, and about to do a speech check?
Yes, it does it automatically as long as you click on the party member and the spell
Where did Swen Vincke touch you?
Case in point. Even suggesting Bg3 has anything warranting criticism gets you labeled as some kind of larian hater or seething rival faction with q
a grudge
You're one b***h ass homie.
>browse BG3 threads
>b***h about people talking about BG3
>"everyone who enjoys things is a shill!"
>cope harder, moron
>"nooooo stop you're suppressing my warranted criticism about the game this isn't fair!"
How did you grow up to be such a massive pussy? Did your mother breastfeed you until you were 25?
You don't have to do anything, in dialogue check roll it's automatically shows up. But I wouldn't agree that +1d4 automatically makes you pass most dialogue checks like that anon said. I guess you have to make a decision - if you want peaceful playtrough and skip battles, go for CHA character. If you like combat go for anyone. There are plenty other cool dialogue stuff for other classes. Barb gets aggressive unga bunga intimidation options, devs said that evill god clerics get a lot of cool stuff, wizards get trough int checks, etc.
Avoid THIS:
> OoD Paladin 6, Warlock 3, Berserker 3
> Raged, Hasted, Wyvern Poison Coated, GWM, Sacred Weaponed, +2 Greatsword
> No Bless, no GWF (which can reroll smite damage), no loviatar buff, no grit helmet buff, no tadpole power
> Target: AC 19 Dragon
> 2 main action attacks x2 + 1 extra action attack = 5
> To hit: -5 (GW) +5 (Sacred Weapon) +5 (CHA) +4 (proficiency) +2 (enhance) + Advantage (reckless)
> Damage: 2d6 (sword) + 10 (GWM) + 5 (CHA) + 4 (Proficiency) + 3d8 (Smites) + 2 (Raged) + 2 (enhance) + 3d6 (poison)
> But wait, you have 8 fricking spell slots so you can do this AGAIN in the next round (if there is any) (this part is to jab at gloom assassin keks)
Evil human wizard or evil human fighter?
can you do tactician without minmaxing?
yeah, sure. you'll just have to rest and reload more often. obviously you shouldn't make a complete trainwreck of a party.
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
buying the game
not waiting for cracks
it's gog it doesn't even need a crack
no one likes cleric
everyone loves clerics - as NPC healing monkeys.
>Playing a crpg
The most boring crap invented by mankind.
Try playing jrpg, it's the same thing, but 10 times less interactivity, non linearity and gameplay depth.
>want karlach in my party
>also want to play a barbarian
Bros...
Respec her
You could respec her.
Respect her
Shill campaign.
It's very transparent just by looking at the sentence structure and their tendency to immediately dismiss and perform damage control on anything that can be perceived as criticism.
THIS IS MY LAST COPE
Well you shill all the time your politics shit here, its nice to talk about games
>90% of players will play a charisma based class and a race with charisma bonus
Boring
> can both fight AND be the party face
> boring
Sure thing fighter man.
Now hurry up with my luggage.
>avoiding fights with speech checks
Are you homosexual?
> Correcting woman with the iron stick OR the meat stick
> Homo
No I'm not. Are you?
I'm sorry... I can't afford it.. I'm gonna buy it from GOG...
>buy
It's okay anon! You are a good anon! You are!
I will play a cleric for the roleplay possibilities
Now that the dust has settled, were the doomposters right? Did BG3 bomb?
it's over
Shazamtovarishch...it's over...slavs love BG3...
atm it all comes down to the state of the quests and classes
too much broken shit there could lead to refunds
>pyõ
what sort of demonic currency is that
Tell me about the current state of the dead three in BG3
Im not sure who will be the most fun to worship on cleric.
>Satania the reddit
Leave
Right on
>Anon the reddit
Leave
Why is Wyll the least popular companion?
Black
We hate Black folk here bro
1) He's a black male, and most people don't want black males in their party. Even the girls and gays are too busy thirsting over Astarion and Halsin to notice him.
2) He's a Warlock, and Warlocks are one of the most popular choices for the player character so people don't want to double up.
3) His personality is kind of bland compared to the rest. Sure he's doped up on illegal Warlock juice from a demon, but all he really wants is to be a cool good guy. He's not an edgy twink like Astarion or a smooth-talking narcissist like Gale, he's just some guy who wants to be the hero.
His story is pretty interesting IMO, but people sleep on it. I think most players dump him after his introduction because he just seems uninteresting at first glance.
As well as this other issues, you also meet him by the time you’ve got your party comp sorted.
At the very least you’ll have fought one major battle, and you’ll almost certainly have done a dungeon with them.
Wyll doesn’t fulfil any role the others don’t, which makes it even worse for him.
I couldn't figure out how to recruit him. He wouldn't talk to me
Larian is really into homosexualry
Astarion is so ugly it makes me weep. Something about his face, he looks old and dry.
He is definitely excessively wrikly, combined with white hair makes him look like an old man.
Yeah. Whenever there's a close up of his face ingame, I look at him in disgust sometimes. It doesn't help that his personality is evil aligned so whenever I come across the monster hunter guy I gladly give Astarion to him. Though, I'am curious on if we can hand Astarion personally to his master once we reach Baldurs gate.
A woman runs the Twitter account you moron.
Could I allow a mindflayer to rape my character?
mind flayers are sexless
As mindflayers yes. But they probably keep their host's equipment, there's no reason for it to just fall off.
>he doesn't know about the kiss
yes
When can a mindflayer kiss our character? What part?
>Deleted EA and all my save files last night
FRICK, but I'm still curious!
>d
he tricked you
God I wish I was an intimacy coordinator
i coordinated intimacy with your mom last night
are you a necromancer???
How about
Half-Orc
Fighter Champion 3
Warlock GOO 9
Does that work somewhat
Eh. Paladin/Warlock is better if you wanna go melee. You still get the extra attack and armors but you get more spell slots and more CHA synergies.
What about paladin warlock and zerker like here?
If you're fine with only divine smiting and not cast spells sure. Can't cast spells when raging.
>not cast spells
I'm.. sorta am? I only have the ea experience which is rather limited but I don't recall having to keep recasting all the time, especially because I wasn't in the mood of having to keep taking long rest after every single encounter.
I'm thinking using whatever needs to be used right at the start, then going into postal mode and finishing the fight.
I wanted to make mortal reminder useful since there aren’t any fightened saving throws in the game atm which is why champion 3 to increase the procs.
I will murder the tieflings
STOP MULTICLASSING CHARISMA CLASSES. IT'S STUPID. IT'S UNAESTHETIC. AND IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT THESE CLASSES CAST SPELLS THE SAME WAY.
I'M GONNA MAKE SURE 6TH EDITION DND SPLITS CHARISMA INTO WILLPOWER (SORCERERS), CONVICTION (PALADINS) AND CHARISMA (WARLOCKS).
Don't care, still playing sorcadin
OH GOD I'M GONNA MULTICLASSSSSSSSING
>AND IT MAKES NO SENSE
Oh really?
what time does it come out on steam? not midnight right?
whats the best split for sorceror / warlock?
>dont have a day off work until saturday so cant play
I beg you, to avoid the threads leading up to saturday.
REPENT ZOOMER
Best class for enchantments spells?
The wizard subclass that has enchantment in it's name.
I played the EA version for a little bit and the only subclass options I got were Evocation and Abjuration. What's up with that?
>ea
anon... you can work this out
Just want to know if there's some unlock system that I hadn't found. I barely got into the game so I don't know.
nope, the only hidden one is oathbreak paladin. for somewhat obvious reasons
EA games get EA content. Every single subclass will be unlocked once the full game is out
Why are /misc/tards so obsessed with attacking the cRPG scene in particular?
They don't, though, really...
PNNAmerica is going to play it when it comes out.
crpgs are extremely pozzed, even by western triple A standards.
There are cacon trannies. All the paladins donned in european armor have to be sudanese or angolan. There are cacon lesbian marriages. Morality is defunct. Not liking orcs is racist. There is no evil. Morality is relativistic. Homosexual bestiality. Sodomy.
WotC is also arguably the most pozzed company in the industry.
Can you point me to a time in D&D's history - ever - where it promoted puritan Christian values? I'll wait.
>not engaging in sodomy is an exclusively puritan christian value
>not accepting men-in-wigs are women is an exclusively puritan christian value
>not subscribing to Black person-worship and blackwashing away european heritage, is an exclusively puritan christian value
Why are these games banned in dozens of non-christian countries, then?
Why are the companies in question confident in posting troony and gay flags in christian countries, but wouldn't dare do the same in non-christian countries?
Why do the game companies don troony/gay profile pictures on twitter, when it comes to their US or european profiles (allegedly christian countries), but their twitter handles for the rest of the world make sure not to don troony/gay profile pictures?
Genuinely curious.
>dnd is european heritage
>>not engaging in sodomy is an exclusively puritan christian value
...Yes? Sodomy is a morally neutral action unless you specifically are christian, you fricking moron.
Yes, that's why they are quite literally hanging them and tossing them off rooftops in muslim and SEA countries.
Peak mental illness, the anal worms and ethylestradiol are eating away at your brain matter, sodomite.
DnD is quite literally a codification of european mythohistory, you brown shitskin.
Paladins, monks, wizards, orcs, trolls, druids, dwarves, elves, knights, rangers, necromancers, they are all european themes. You have to be extremely delusional to assert otherwise.
Do you...think D&D used to champion Islamic beliefs? Is there a stat block for Muhammad?
>monks
>necromancers
>wizards
>european mythohistory
Chuddie please.
are you really gonna stretch so far that you literally would rather suck off MEA and SEA shitholes (no homo) than accept people can do whatever the frick they want?
You asserted that all other cultures, save for puritan christian cultures, are accepting of sodomy.
I demonstrated that was evidently false and not factual.
You proceeded to amateurishly deflect.
How does that make you look?
shitholes are irrelevant so yeah demonstrate something of value perhaps
Yet another deflection.
Your original assertion was proven to be false.
Moreover, it was demonstrated that christian nations are evidently the most tolerant nations on the planet.
Ipso facto, you are purporting the inverse of observable reality.
Keep flailing.
>DnD is quite literally a codification of european mythohistory
you do understand that it's just a bunch of burger nerds basically grabbing what is popular in popculture and shoving into their setting? They've made monk class because kung fu movies were trendy at the time.
This is a thread about a video game called bg3 based on the D&D tabletop game.
If you want to rent about the state of the western society, there are boards for that.
I am referring to the video-game and make inferences based on the video-game. You can forgo the concern-trolling, and go on and report me regardless, troony.
We all know who runs the board, and we all know the janitors and the mod are quite literally autogynephile transsexuals. Just skip the histrionics, no one's buying it.
The video game has nothing to do with you rant.
Bg2 had blacks and stronl womyn.
Elminster literally spent some time as a woman back in the adnd days.
Every single "degenerate" thing in bg3 has had at least one example in forgotten realms before you were even born.
Ergo, why I asserted that crpgs are arguably the most pozzed video-games in the games industry.
You are stumbling all over yourself.
I'm talking about tabletop rpgs you moron.
DnD has had those things since the 90s at the very least. Maybe even 80s for some stuff.
None of that shit was considered anything special before you morons radicalized yourselves in 2014
Procure source material that tabletop RPGs had homosexual relationships and transsexuals in the 80s and 90s.
If you are going to astroturf, I will make you work for it.
Google elminster genderbending
Tim Cain was one of Fallout's creator and Gaider was one of BG's creator and they're both gays. The genre is not for you, chuddie.
Its a good thing BG3 has some of the most cartoonishly evil people out there. Larian writing is full "ogres eating people and witches cooking children in giant pots" tier and I love it.
>ogres eating people and witches cooking children in giant pots
Hot. I really want to put my character through some hentai/snuff stuff.
if you mean doing the snuff yourself....there's a perfectly good origin for that!
hard PASS. I want my character to be gangraped or be tortured!
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
Buying the game, for a start.
Indeed its on gog so even poors like me can play the bg3, the Game of the Aeon (GotA)
>Aeon: an indefinite and very long period of time.
>Aeon: an indefinite and very long period of time.
It's the greek word for century.
Google lied then
It's the effect of words losing their original meaning over the years and being adapted to different cultures and languages. Technically both are correct.
t. greek
Very funny, I like.
I live in texas, does this mean I could play the game at 10 in the morning?
No but it means you can start downloading it at 10 in the morning
this looks fricking terrible like a low budget cgi series for kids
>graphic prostitute
It's a CRPG
lariantrannies have been going on about how great the graphics are
Those character models look like they're from some kids series
>Those character models look like they're from some kids series
Name a single CRPG that looks better.
Fallout
My fail fin.
>Those character models look like they're from some kids series
Like?
What kid series looks like this?
I'd watch it.
Ben 10
Bullshit
None of the characters looks as hot as gwen
yeah I fricking hate larian's animations. even if the character casting magic is a fricking paladin wearing heavy armor he suddenly starts performing interpretive dance and wildly flailing around. dos2 was the same.
You Will Never Be A Real Githzerai
>pay money for 120gb dl
>get the 40gb repack free
pirate chads we can't stop winning
>not getting steam achievements and playtime tracker
Enjoy having to re-download the entire repack whenever an update is released I guess.
Cringe class only created to appeal to asians
what class??
Shadow Monk
where are these clips from? are there some for all classes
Monk trailer.
the staff is gay
>NOT using hands to tear enemies apart
Doesn't seem very monk-like.
Can you link it? I can't find anything.
Don't multiclass if you don't know what your doing, a feat has to be REALLY worth it to be worth +2 on your main stat.
If you manage to have an odd stat try to nab a feat that gives +1 to it if you can
>What are things i should avoid as a beginner?
Alright, so as OP you'll have an urge to be a homosexual, don't do that.
True Strike is worthless.
You can only concentrate on one spell, but not all spells are concentration.
DON'T OPEN. IT.
>tfw no male dragonborn romance
>tfw we won't get another one till DOS3
it hurts bros..... at least I can customize my guardianfu as one....right?
>male
homosexual homosexual.
go back to cleaning my boots, slave
I’m bi for red prince, I admit it.
You are based, my friend!
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
>homosexual cuck shit
No thanks.
>He didn't kill Red Princess
Bros before hoes and all that
>He doesn’t want to be a (male or female) concubine to a divine being
lol
Does the Dark Urge origin allow you to gain Slayer form later? I will buy it if you actually can.
Yes, 100%. The whole origin revolves around Bhaal.
Isn't the slayer ability kinda too overpowered for a level 12 cap?
Yeah, see
>this game has nothing to do with the old baldur's gate gam-ACK!
Whoever recommended me that pathfinder shit, frick you, the voice acting and writing is fricking awful who the frick thinks that shit is acceptable? Literal moron tier writing and acting.
Who fricking wrote that shit??? It's like it's for 10 year olds wtf man
>two season passes
One isn't enough?
It's the fricking writing, and voice acting, holy shit I only managed 40 minutes, they talk like Saturday morning cartoon characters, it's like a fricking cartoon for 10 year olds, who the frick thought this shit was a good idea? I genuinely want to know who wrote this, this person is a legit schizoid, frick me.
Yeah, Lann made my uninstall the game, his quips are straight out of a marvel movie. Good thing I torrented it.
Go play AAA-shit then.
You'll last 5m in BG3 then.
Trannies make game for uwu trannies
What part of the game turned you away anon?
>playing RTwPslop
No wonder you had a bad time.
I'm nooot sure you will also like BG bro if your reaction has been that negative. There ain't many cRPG's out there.
I've played Pillars and BG 1/2, Icewind dale, you have to be a fricking legit 80 IQ non-English speaker if you think whatever the frick Owlcat does could even be considered sane, it's terribad.
ehh.. I think what won me over was the power fantasy aspect
I enjoyed rp'ing as an angry angel and then god
Filtered
Did you even complete the maze?
>Filtered
Oh yes, the black woman Paladin who can't voice act and screaming her basic English studies for 10 year olds dialogue at me filtered the frick out of me, thank God, money saved.
Will bane be a part of the game or is it all about bhaal?
The Dead Three, anon.
I want to look like Bane IRL.
k-pop Bane isn't canon.
They better rework his MTG design, he looks like pure shit.
So what the hell happened to Bhaalspawn anyway? People said that Abdel is not canon for BG3 continuity
Does DEX also automatically apply to finessable weapons for AB and damage in BG3 as in 5e?
yes, and it uses strength if strength is higher. Works the exact same
Alright, it's strange how overpowered DEX is then, it does way more than all other stats
>Initiative
>both ranged and finessable weapon AB AND damage
>AC
>Stealth which is broken af in BG3
>helps avoid a lot of spell damage
sure but its still going to do less dmg than a strength based two hander wielding martial class
full plate gives more AC than any dex+light armor combination
Dex has always been OP in D&D, 5e made it even more by removing the need for weapon finesse
it's closer in this game then ever, Athletics is second to only persuasion, jump gives bonus movement, shoving is also stronger then ever.
Yeah but dex is still as strong
Irenicus did nothing wrong. Frick the elves
He's a ugly b***h.
Is there a full list of beasts druids can turn into?
https://bg3.wiki/wiki/Wild_Shape
there will be more in the full game
I hope you can turn into a giant octopus. My druid I'm playing on 5e tabletop turns into a octopus as his signature move.
they confirmed that every class can turn into displaced beast through the brain skill tree
>Mage Hand confirmed to be able to push puttons/pull levers in Launch version
Thank fricking god.
you can't just shoot an arrow at leavers to trigger them, not sure about buttons never tried it.
Hi guys.
I just got 1 question, im playing the demo right now and i noticed there is no "night" in the game.
Am i doing something wrong? i have to click somewhere to rest until its dark or something?
please dont yell at me if the answer is obvious.
no day cycle
.... there is no day/night cycle in BG3?
please tell me you're joking.
moving shadows would probably break the game, dunno
what the frick were these Black folk at larian doing all these years, then? recording thousands of hours of cringe reddit cutscenes, and forgot to build a game around these cutscenes?
what are you even talking about Black person?
learn to read Black person and then you will understand Black person Black person?
I did read and is sounded like a load of nonsense. Like there's a demo out you would have to be either a colossal moron or a shitposter to say what you say and you just happen to be both. Good day.
>belgian 'jak
Can't even falseflag correctly. Try harder Ivan.
>Tourist spacing
I ain't reading.
Monk is the most powerful class in the world.
Jesus, stop talking to yourself.
samegay
larian shills on suicide watch.
Hello, Josh.
funny how you think this image proves anything
samegay
Here you go (You)
>monk
ew
Why the fug is there no Summon Monster spell, or is that a limitation of EA only?
are there exotic weapons in 5e?
There are only 2 melee weapons in 5e
Greatsword for 2hands
Longsword for 1hand
And only 1 ranged weapon
Hand xbow
no
Does this game have any dragons? And preferably, are they in dungeons? Will there be some sort of connection between these dungeons and these dragons?
My cleric 🙂
What slur is “s*****c”?
Spiiiiiiiic
Stupid DBspics with their cringe RP
>out in ~1 day
where are the reviews?
surely this isn’t a cyberpunk scenario where reviewers are not legally allowed to publish their reviews until after the game is released because the game is actually trash?
implying all the cyberpunk reviews weren't extremely positive
There are no review codes or eceleb exclusive access, everyone gets full release at the same time.
>There are no review codes or eceleb exclusive access
yes there are
they're just not allowed to show it before release
but they are playing it now
>they're just not allowed to show it before release
never a good sign
how was dos2's release?
good, just not as good as the definitove edition update that came later
how 'good' was it?
performance issues I'd say ppl in general can handle due to the game not requiring snap actions
broken quests/classes though.. were there stuff like this?
not that i remember but it was a while ago
They're all frantically playing the game. Larian only gave them 4 (or 6?) days to play through it and cook up a review. A game as massive as this needs at minimum 2 weeks to play through the story and get a good grasp of all of its components. Wouldn't be surprised if some reviews drop the score by a few points for dumping so much work on them. On the bright side, this means we get a leak and spoiler free free launch.
Surely not.
What are the ACTUAL min specs to run the game? Can a laptop run it ok?
>Can a laptop run it ok?
you realize that's the same thing as asking "can a computer run it ok?" right?
1650 should be fine I think
check the tests on YT
Are there any good romance options in this fricking game? Dragon age inquisition was absolute garbage in that
define good
we got quite the freaks over here after all
Man at this point any female resemblance would do it for me, Bioware is disgusting
>They gave their last hope to a man who thinks he's a woman and gloats on his twitter about how he'll put more gay stuff in the game
They've been dead. I wonder if they're going to take ideals from Baldurs gate 3 and put it in their game. They clearly tried taking some things from God of war.
Thank goodness this game has literally nothing to do with Bioware or Dragon Age in any capacity
Shadowheart, follower of an evil goddess. Has amnesia, and is a much softer, kinder person than she lets on, or possibly realizes.
Lae'Zel, Githyanki warrior. She acts the part of a tough b***h, but it turns out she hasn't even completed her trial to become properly accepted by her people as a warrior. Naive, and knows nothing of the culture on Faerun.
Minthara, best girl.
I know this might sound stupid, but are there any party members in this game that are actually cool? Literally all of them are either sexy tieflings or vaguely homoerotic men, from what I've seen.
Define cool
I think sexy tieflings are cool
I want a big burly knight or paladin who is hell-bent on bringing justice against sinners. I want a berserker that will go mad at the slightest disagreement. I want a cut-throat assassin or rogue who would cut my dick off for a quarter.
Literally all of these seem like sexy coombait.
Its funny
Some people are complaining that all the characters are ugly c**ts
While you think they're too hot and nice
Anyway play dark urge and kill them all
not really, I expect them to become cool. Character progression is to be expected, I expect astarian to be pretty based once he fricks up the vampire lord or whatever
What's the weapon situation? I want to play a Berserker. I assume I pick a heavy weapon. Am I encouraged to specialize in a single one or can I choose freely from all heavy weapons?
You get specific weapon proficiency per class, and also by race you can also take some proficiencies as a feat. Think barbarians get great axes, two handed great swords, clubs dual weild axe, and a few other martial weapons.
playin bg1+2 on my switch
Will this game be any good if I want to make a female character and have yuri and be femdommed by another female?
There is literally a lloth drow companion to be subservient to.
The females in the game are indistinguishable from males in terms of behavior and character.
They are confrontational, loud, aggressive, arrogant, and hot-headed.
Women design female characters like the men they are attracted to, and they can't even conceptualize the cognitive dissonance, let alone hope to reconcile it.
So, yes, technically you can engage in lesbian relationships, but they are functionally heterosexual relationships.
>''I've never touched a vegana'' the post
It's fascinating that you think ad hominem about alleged inability to get sex are effective.
You resetera migrants have overused them to such an extent that they've lost all bite.
It's hilarious too, since this insult has been wildly effective throughout recorded history, and has been used by women for literal millennia, only to have men-in-wigs finally render it impotent.
>I'm not mad
>writes a whole essay about not being mad
Have sex, chuddie.
People like you are so funny. I literally played Planescape Torment a few days ago, and I know for a fact that you people never complained about characters like Annah or Fall-From-Grace.
It's concern trolling.
Are the women in BG3 feminine, gentle, demure, nurturing, and submissive?
What are traditionally feminine behavioral traits?
Are the women in BG3 masculinized, aggressive, confrontational, argumentative, and arrogant?
What are traditionally masculine behavioral traits?
>Are the women in BG3 feminine, gentle, demure, nurturing, and submissive?
>What are traditionally feminine behavioral traits?
>Are the women in BG3 masculinized, aggressive, confrontational, argumentative, and arrogant?
>What are traditionally masculine behavioral traits?
Thank you kindly for demonstrating how cognitively insolvent you are.
Without mentally ill activists like (you), lurkers might have astroturfed without engaging in deductive reasoning. But, when they see exchanges like this, they can put two and two together.
I couldn't do it without you, thanks again.
God frick I think it's a shart
I'm also able to open a thesaurus and fancy myself a scholarly individual but is there a point
It's fascinating that you generational dysgenic mongrels are actually proud of your illiteracy and kindergarden-level lexicon.
You are so obsessed with victimhood and the deification of the downtrodden, that you quite literally gloat about your lack of literary skills.
I farted just now and I think it may have been a shart
I agree with what you are saying but we are not playing medieval dynasty.
Considering we have constantly face deadly encounters it is to be expected then that the members will be a bit cuckos on the head/different from the usual.
The only possible role I could perhaps see fitting here would be to make a very gentle 'pure healer' type of girl and I wonder how popular she would be..
That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
Introspect.
Im not reading this but shadowheart a is nice person in a goth teen phase.
Maybe you remember her earlier been a c**t but she has been rewritten
The tiefling girl, despite looking buff, is actually basically also a nice girl who likes girly things like dates and romance.
It IS a good point that since its fantastical 'anything is possible'.
As to why they simply leave like this now, full of women with masculine traits, it could be ofc due political preferences, be internal or due to fear of external, or it could also just not wanting to create "boring" characters (in their mind).
All I'm saying is that considering the circumstances, it does make sense for characters to be a bit off, but indeed it does not make sense to not have completely feminine women since ofc it is fantasy.
Since it's fantasy and anything's possible, why would they ever default to masculinized female characters that exhibit masculine behavioral traits, save for ideological reasons?
Masculinized women are not attractive to men.
Masculinized women are not representative of femininity, and female nature.
Men make up 96% of the player base, so the decision cannot possibly be profit-based.
When women actually play video-games, they naturally gravitate towards feminine women with feminine agency, regardless of what "token" women decry on social media or investor meetings/BoD meetings. So, it can't possibly be about representation either, since if women actually felt represented, they'd engage with the masculinized characters. Instead, they obsessively gravitate towards family-building games like the Sims, or cutesy games without adversity, like Animal Crossing.
Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological, with the impetus being social engineering.
>Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological
which is why I'm not giving them my money
i think that's because by default player character should be advantageous and dominant (which are masculine traits), so all the origin characters should also exhibit these traits so they are more likely to be picked as a player character. It's an adventure, after all.
you are a fricking moron, hate pozzism all you want, but the women in the game are fantasy warriors, they are not going to be demure princesses you c**t
I already addressed that infantile argument.
Story-tellers have had no issue portraying feminine women as fantastical warriors, or strong characters overcoming adversity. They didn't feel the need to masculinize them. Moreover, current female characterization is a caricature of the masculine behavioral modus, not the gamut of masculine traits.
Most male characters in our literary history were not argumentative, combative, arrogant, or confrontational. They went through a traditional hero's journey, and they traditionally had mentors, which would help them out of the functionally negative masculine traits, or help them hone those functionally negative masculine traits into new ones. Arrogance would be replaced with wisdom, conviction, and steadfastness. Combative aggression would be replaced with measured violence, strength to protect, and power to defend and uphold ideals. Hotheaded risk-seeking would be replaced with contemplative introspection, assuredness, and confidence.
Modern writers are embracing the caricature, because women are incapable of telling the difference. They are attracted to arrogance, risk-seeking, aggression. Those are the traits they conceptualize as masculine. So, in the feminist inversion, women were called to subsume those very traits and don them as their own. That has eventually permeated to culture, and the codified dogma has made it into video-game design.
Ergo, video-game designers are incapable of creating any other kind of woman. The only kind permissible, is a woman that skinwalks as a caricature of a man.
>They didn't feel the need to masculinize them
I can't stress how important that sentence is.
there is a word for what you are doing. Gish-Gallop. you dont actually know what the characters are and so you spam words and paragraphs to make what you are talking about as obscure as possible.
TLDR: you said absoloutly nothing in relation to the actual characters in the game, only what you imagine them to be, you fricking crein
*cretin
That's evidently not what I have been doing, since I have accurately described the female characters in BG3, and the impetus behind their design.
If you actually believed I'd been engaging in gish-gallop, you'd pick the weakest of my arguments and dismantle it, and by extension extrapolated the methodology to the entire gamut.
You are incapable of doing that, though, because my arguments have been sound and based on readily available empirical allusions and inferences.
You are painfully aware female design is deeply ideological, and obviously feminist, so you opt not to engage, because the examples I could bring forth are in the several hundreds.
No, you haven't, your weakest argument? pretending to know the characters despite NEVER playing the game. Shut your c**t hole you are wrong about everything fricking moron you are RIDICULOUS
I've complained about those characters before, Deionarra too.
That game is misogynist as hell.
>indistinguishable from males in terms of behavior and character.
>They are confrontational, loud, aggressive, arrogant, and hot-headed
do you also believe that irl "Karen" archetype which is basically all those traits are some kind of psyop and therefore are not real?
What sort of argument is that?
There exist masculinized, loud, arrogant, confrontational, and aggressive women in real life. Precisely because they have been obsessively indoctrinated into those behavioral modalities.
Likewise, game developers are portraying women in video-games with those behavioral modalities, because they are ideologically aligned with the academics and scholars that have created this phenomenon in the first place.
Video-games are a vehicle for propaganda. They get more eyeballs than movies, and most of those eyeballs are of the key demographic. They are the perfect vehicle for social engineering, normalization, and demoralization/agitation propaganda.
you gay
Isn't this coming in october?
Tomorrow for PC, next month for PS/XBOX.
How many people at Owlcat are going to kill themselves
their general sank ~16 hrs ago
dunno why
Pointless to pay shills now, they'll have to campaign the next game. Frick Ganker's mods for allowing blatant Owlcat shilling, btw.
They literally killed themselves. The latest pathfinder update features a mandatory data tracker
It'll be industry wide, sven buckbroke them, bigly.
i dont think owlcats are as salty as obsidian, inxile and others
>i dont think owlcats
Shills? They unironically ran threads 24/7 on Ganker and /vg/ and just stopped today because they need to focus on the next game, nobody gives a frick about troonfinder shit it was literally paid shills.
How long will it be until you can pirate it?
gog
immediately upon release, there's no drm
Is there no Coup de Grace or Ready actions?
What the hell, it's a turn based game tbh
would you?
Yeah
Yes, for science and also Tempus.
The purple danger hair is a turnoff.
what's the qrd on defeating both the demon and the mindflayer at the start?
1: Stealth
2: Natuoloid Tank explosions
3: RNG.
Will the flaming great sword be even lootabale on release, it fairly overpowered.
My wife kaga.
she'll become Pregha tomorrow
more like deadga
Should I buy it now? Will the price go up/down tomorrow?
>buy
why?
>Will the price go up/down tomorrow?
Why would it?
price will remain the same
It's on gog for free. Seen doesn't mind if you pirate it, he said he's pirated thousands if games and even cracked some, so he said it would be hypocritical of him to be against it.
If you get the EA version doesnt that grandfather you into the deluxe edition?
baldur's gate back in 2000
>whoa cool rpg
baldur's gate 3 in 2023
>omg I need to frick a bear
seriously, what went so fricking wrong?
Why are you quoting?
>omg I need to frick a bear
What is wrong?
>omg I need to frick a bear
It player driven, so it's entirely up to you gay, also it's a transformed druid, not a literal wild bear.
I want to do a Zorro-like character, what class should I look into?
Sword Bard
Nah Zorro is a Thief with high Charisma.
>That wasn't an issue throughout our literary history.
Women have been portrayed in literature as both feminine and active in warfare and adversity.
Women facing adversity is an idealized abstraction, borne out of the male imagination. In reality, women spread their legs to invaders, they do not overpower them, and they do not lead armies.
Since the entire premise is fantastical, why are you so obsessed with realism in terms of the behavioral modus those fantastical warrior women assume?
Why do you default to a masculine behavioral modus? Think about it.
Why is it an issue now? Introspect. How come "misogynist" greeks could portray Athena, Galataea, Aphrodite Areia, Hippolyta, Antigone, Iphigenia, as strong women facing adversity or engaging in war, without stripping them of their femininity?
Why do modern story-telling have to strip women of their femininity in order to place them in masculine abstractions?
>Introspect.
You DO sound like a woman expert.
see:
see:
>Since it's fantasy and anything's possible, why would they ever default to masculinized female characters that exhibit masculine behavioral traits, save for ideological reasons?
>Masculinized women are not attractive to men.
>Masculinized women are not representative of femininity, and female nature.
>Men make up 96% of the player base, so the decision cannot possibly be profit-based.
>When women actually play video-games, they naturally gravitate towards feminine women with feminine agency, regardless of what "token" women decry on social media or investor meetings/BoD meetings. So, it can't possibly be about representation either, since if women actually felt represented, they'd engage with the masculinized characters. Instead, they obsessively gravitate towards family-building games like the Sims, or cutesy games without adversity, like Animal Crossing.
>Through the process of deductive reasoning, we can safely ascertain, or at least infer, the reasons are purely ideological, with the impetus being social engineering.
White men...we aren't all like this...are we?
What spells have friendly fire if any?
The game doesn't seem to tell you
Anything that doesn't specifically state allies or enemies will hit everything, you can also tell by which targets become outlined when they're in the spells area.
Alright boys im moronic, does this work for a paladin?
yes, it's perfect
not an expert but I heard you can get more use out of wis for a paladin
dunno how much you can dump the rest though
Dont you need CHA for casting and STR for meele? Not trying to minmax really
Cha is for smite spells like branded smite. They are useless with very, very few exceptions.
I meant possibly loweing DEX/INT to 8 and putting the rest into WIS, dunno how much you cna do it.
>The most important save is wis save
Doesn't saves come from CHA in the paladin?
Cha gives you bonus spell slots and makes you smite spells stronger. Not needed, as they are all worse than divine smite.int 8 and wis up, if you intended to 0lay divine smite. Like this you play a caster and fighter paladin. Funny, but less effective than divine smite only.
Consider multiclass bard or sorceror. Than you can keep high cha and it's actually useful.
Your most needed attribute is strength by far.
If you dump cha, pump wis. The most important save is wis save.
Okay, I'll dump some cha for wis. Thanks anon, not gonna multiclass.
This pala is for my solo run, playing a wizard gnome with my buddy at the same time
Single player or actual solo?
You wish. They add Profiency to all their cha saves.
Single player
I'm thinking about delving into warlock to use CHA for attack (and due to dialog ofc), how does this look?
I'd like to keep heavy armor and 2h great weapon though, do I perhaps need more STR to use them or could I even dump it a bit more?
Looking at the wiki I'm not seeing anything about needing X STR for heavy armor or heavy weapons..
WRONG pic, I had not selected paladin as the class
Yeah, I wouldn't go with as many uneven numbers, only cha. Dex 10 and Str or int + 1
DEX then for a bit more initiative I guess
I will be dumping that STR to 10 in the future if it becomes possible but dont think 'standard' STR will be enough for heavy armor
Final stats in case anyone is looking at this
I had messed a few things up by not setting some stuff before playing with the stats, but I think this will be my final form
High half elf, paladin of vengeance, warlock and possibly zerker though I'm not sure
Only, if Str and stack, else dumo
No Str requirements needed for heavy armor in ea. Likely even small races can go with great weapons.
Other than that, great. 2h mauls and great swords will likely have the best items. Race?
m-male human h-haha
high half elf
Yeah, vhuman is nice, not playing larian racist shite. Waiting for mods. Have a ranger solo bg2 run and can wait 20 days, no problem.
the icons are a bit shit aren't they
Very well made, but I dislike them, too. The spell favicons are better.
I'm not playing a D&D game that doesn't have a module creator and DM mode. I'm not playing through the devs' poorly written story.
why are tiefling women hot b***h?
Made for human wieners
sex with satania
What color dragon for Sorc, lariansisters?
I'd think blue/bronze would be best for lightning, but then there's no ranged cantrip that can utilize the elemental bonus.
Perhaps White/Silver for cold?
I like how no one addressed the fact that the only 'masculinized' female companion is Lae'zel, the rest are feminine.
Its almost like these culture warriors don't actually play videogames, and should be banned from the video game board.
Is the main character fully voiced in this game?
partially
it's good