Has /vm/ played this yet?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/371970/Barony/
Been playing the beta with frens, so far its pretty good.
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Barony
Has /vm/ played this yet?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/371970/Barony/
Been playing the beta with frens, so far its pretty good.
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They are fricking updating it? Wtf?
And no it’s fun with friends just like every game in the world but the dungeon crawling gameplay is pretty boring
No health regen means you spend the entire game avoiding every single point of damage possible which is pretty boring. And almost none of the loot in the game is interesting and fun to use like in other games like binding of isaac or dungeon crawl stone soup
>No health regen means you spend the entire game avoiding every single point of damage possible which is pretty borin
thats what makes it good. its like a 3d stone soup
>no health regen
tell me you're just moronic
1 hp every 5-10 seconds is not meaningful. especially not with a hunger clock ticking and scarce food for multiple people
in stone soup you just press 5 and you're full HP
>troll blood
>healing magic
>food
>potions
>fountains
i'm sorry you're moronic anon
>erm what about consumable items and spells
those use other limited resources. that's what I'm saying. damage sticks to you unless you are wililng to spend resources to recover, so that means the best way to fight is to kite every single monster you come across which just gets so tedius
>what about these things that you likely wont have or wont have a lot of?
i know roguelikes are difficult, but keep trying!
the problem isnt that it's difficult, it's that playing the game safely is tedious and unfun
i know reading is difficult but keep trying
whoops! haha yeah roguelikes can be tough man. Just gotta keep at it.
>it’s fun with friends just like every game in the world
There's a distinct difference between a game actually being fun with friends and one that's just fodder for a hangout session, and the fact that the two have been conflated and mixed together until they're wrapped under the same banner whenever "with friends" is uttered is just a fat pot of piss
then you should do a better job of distinguishing between the two, because just saying "it's fun with friends" doesn't make that distinction. dont blame people for not being able to discern what you mean properly when the words youre choosing could be used whichever way
>doesn't make that distinction
It does, actually. When you say "it's fun with friends," you're attributing the fun to the game by saying "it's fun," with the condition of playing it with friends. The one that could go either way is "I've been having fun with it with friends," which doesn't directly attribute the fun to the game, and therefore ironically would also be the one to describe hangout fodder that only fuels the existing fun with buddies.
It's entirely wrong to use "it's fun with friends" to mean hangout fodder, and yes you can entirely blame other people for this. The muddling of the phrase has stemmed entirely from neurotic know-it-all pissbags that keep spouting off about their assumption that, when someone meant A, they actually meant B, usually because they didn't like the game people were enjoying and want to take a shortcut in the discussion.
Damn, I misclicked my (You). Now I'm the pissbag. Anyways, point stands.
if the game is fun with the condition of playing it with friends then the fun actually ISNT (necessarily) being attributed to the game. if a game is only fun with friends then it either requires multiplayer or it's not a fun game
there is absolutely no clear distinction between "it's fun with friends" and "i've been having fun with the game with friends" since "it is fun" and "i had fun with it" are synonymous. you cannot have fun with a game if it is not a fun game. if you're having fun with a game only because your friends are there, then youre having fun with your friends, not the game
Two major things right off the bat
>if a game is only fun with friends
>if you're having fun with a game only because your friends are there
You're already jumping off on assumptions. The statement "it's fun with friends" isn't "it was only fun with friends." It mentions that there is fun, that there was a condition of playing with friends to get it, but it says nothing about being the only condition to get the only fun in the game. To assume otherwise stems from your own preconceived notions and entirely within the vein of what I mentioned about people pushing their own assumptions onto the phrase to tank it, whether intentionally or not. Secondly:
>then it either requires multiplayer
Anon, where the frick do you think we are? Tell me the name of the board. I assume you bring this because you were bothered by some past use of it towards a hotseat singleplayer game or a similar experience, but that's not part of this. This is /vm/, we're obviously talking about multiplayer games.
Now to actually get to your reply, no. Again, "it is fun" attributes the fun directly to the "it," whereas "I had fun with it" merely states that "I" had fun but without actually attributing it to "it," and merely that "it" was a part of the proceedings in some manner or another. It might've been the source, or--for the matter of talking about hangout fodder--the subject of the fun that was had, that being the fun with friends independent from any fun or lackthereof inside the game. You're only getting confused because of your own preconceived notions of what "fun with it" can mean--pigeonholing it into one meaning only--rather than the actual potential meanings of the phrase and its applications.
>It mentions that there is fun, that there was a condition of playing with friends to get it, but it says nothing about being the only condition to get the only fun in the game.
there's no reason to mention the conditional if it's also fun without friends. you're only obfuscating your own point by doing that. by providing the conditional at all, you're implying that it's not fun without friends. that might not be your intention, but it sure as hell isn't my fault for interpreting that way because that's how EVERYBODY speaks
>there's no reason to mention the conditional if it's also fun without friends
Assumptions
>you're only obfuscating your own point by doing that
Coping
>by providing the conditional at all, you're implying that it's not fun without friends
More Assumptions
>but it sure as hell isn't my fault for interpreting that way because that's how EVERYBODY speaks
Projection and More Coping
Deploying smug anime girl and accusations of you being an ESL. You already had no recourse, this is a courtesy I'm affording you to hammer in how wrong you are about this. In the future, you will have fun with friends because a game is fun, and you'll like it.
we assume things all the time while talking to each other. it is your job to tailor your speech to address any simple, reasonable assumptions someone might make, not my job to not make any assumptions whatsoever. i am assuming, for example, that what you meant by "Assumptions" is "you are making an assumption" and what i would assume you mean by that is "you are making an assumption about this piece of text that i have just quoted from you, which you can assume because it is what immediately preceded my claim"
the simple fact that something is an assumption does not mean that it is bad or that it's the assumer's fault for making it. if i say "my mother was great when she was alive" you would assume that my mother is no longer alive, because i said that she WAS alive and that she WAS great, but what i said doesnt technically mean that she is dead. my mother could still be alive and she could still be great, as she was in the past, but the obvious assumption YOU would make is that she is dead. you can be as stubborn as you want and you can call me ESL all you want, but no reasonable person would ever agree with your level of genuine autism over assumptions. if youre not trolling, and i really hope you are, you must actually have some disorder that makes it difficult for you to understand things that arent completely literal
Anon, you're being ridiculous. Like if it was anyone else, I would have a lot to say about how it's not simply making assumptions, but when you make them, what they are, and really the only thing that matters: how you proceed forward from making them--all three of which you failed at, but especially at the last one.
It's just that you're coping way too fricking hard with the fact that you've made bad assumptions and ran with them, and you're doing everything to try to cover your ass, pull the crow out of your mouth, and imply that your frick ups are completely normal and socially typical. That everyone is as much of a failure at interpreting each other and reading what's printed right in front of them as you. What's especially ridiculous is the accusations of autism that you're lobbing at me, whereas you being locked into preconceived notions and patterns, projecting your own failures onto others as "the norm," and then showcasing this level of distress when those things are challenged is so typical of the disorder that I feel like I should submit your posts to get featured in the DSM-6. Such things have now completely disengaged me from discussing this with you seriously.
Face it, you're gonna have fun playing video games with your friends because the game itself is fun, and you're gonna like it. Like I said before, you have no recourse, and any more bleating from you from this point forward will be taken with even less earnestness.
>no health regen
use the fricking food and potions you mong.
>b-but it's limited
you get food and shit in shops, chests and from killing enemies, there's an overabundance of it if you actually play the fricking game normally.
>And almost none of the loot in the game is interesting and fun to use
agreed, I wish there was more to the weapons system to make it more random or just overall interesting. You get a total of five weapons really. Same with armor, I think equipment is really lacking in this game and could benefit from more random elements.
it looks fun whenever i see someone else play it but it's just so boring and such a chore to play myself, even with friends. i dont get it
also, youve gotta stop with this whole "it's fun with friends!" thing. every game is fun with friends because youre not getting the fun from the game, youre getting it from your friends. if a game is only fun with friends then it either requires multiplayer/co-op or it's a bad game, or both
Yeah, it's pretty funny... if you have DLCs.
There is one DLC that outright cuts off levels from game (you get 3 dungeon levels per location instead of 5) and playing without it gets boring pretty quickly. Aaand without them you don't get to play as actually interesting races.
Launching LAN with friends is pretty easy, so pirating it is
What DLC is that? I thought the DLC's were just more classes?
This game is so fricking good and deep. I do not know how it is not bigger. Easy to learn but so much depth to master
i found it fun for a short time, but there just isnt enough uniqueness each run to keep the fun going. i also have the tendency to play games like this very slow which ruins it for myself.
I cannot tell of barony is meant to be played fast or slow. Minotaur, movement speed, and enemies that kill in one hit say speed.
Needing levels, needing money or scrap, needing to kite say take it slow.
My most successful runs are 'slow' ones, once you're faster than the minotaur you can kill him pretty easy
I feel like I'm just dying in Barony too much and not really improving. So far I properly tried playing Cleric and Accursed, loved Accursed a lot more but the hunger shit really ruins the mood because I haven't successfully rolled a blood vial in like levels despite speeding through every level like sanic and killing every fleshy enemy I come across, and now I'm about to die. Cleric felt dull on account of having ass-slow appraisal.
Great game
So, anyone actually playing this?
I just played with a /vm/ bro and we beat the lich
I did a run yesterday, was my first time reaching the Baron, who promptly two-shotted me. Played Cleric.
I'm waiting for the switch version actually,freezes on my old laptop at the title screen ;_;
so another 2+ months wait at least.......!
Seems pretty expensive for a minecraft mod.
It's pretty good but it's very short and lacks content in general.
I'd say that this is the type of game that would've benefitted from a much robust random generation system, like, say, implementing the rarity system to the gear, monsters with titles and special abilities and effects that come with said titles and just an endless death march gamemode would've been sweet.
The fact that you sometimes see a shop and can sell your valuables means i gotta do constant autistic inventory management of every single item in the game to scrape up every penny I can
not to mention appraisal XP
quite gay
>he is unoptimized with where he applied his optimization
ngmi. you're not actually autistic, you're moronic.
appraisal XP definitely matters
and even having to carry around a couple valuable magic items to sell when you aren't a magic user makes the game shit
read the fricking thread. limited healing access and unlimited healing access lead to 2 different types of gameplay. I'm not saying that its literally impossible to heal.
all I'm saying is playing like picrel for every single weak enemy you see is annoying!!! this isn't the dungeon crawling gameplay I'm seeking from a realtime experience
>read the fricking thread
no I'm not reading all of your moronic arguments
good thing i summarized in the fricking post you replied to. homosexual.
Beat the secret final boss (Baphomet?) with a friend years ago before the big content patch. Our strategy was to always go to the secret gnome level to horde lightning staffs. Ranged always felt way better than melee but I don't know what has changed since then.
how do you get the lightning staffs from the gnomes
Kill them?
Gnome level is easy as frick if you have a mage.
>Fireball + fireball
>Get staff
>two hits any other gnome
>easily kills trolls
>frick tons of xp pre swamp for 0 effort plus a legendary helm
playing a bit more of this game.
followed advice and have been just abusing throwing knives and staves, and leaving most other items on the ground (because inventory management is so painful)
I think the minotaur really shifts the game in a more fun direction and I wish there were other floor events that did.
>le even more dark level
so awesome
killed baphomet on 3rd try after this.
died to floor 20 boss once, and a spike trap the other time.
final opinion:
>game is bogged down by busy work like inventory management and exploring giant tangled mostly-empty levels
>kiting a dozen fast enemies with ranged attacks through hell could be fun, but by the time you get there you are overpowered as shit
>at the same time, instantly die to a boulder on floor 3 for playing too fast, or get minotaur'd on floor 9 because you didn't find the staircase fast enough
it's shit and I could do way better.
I played this game with a couple of friends over a few days. Basically we did a bunch of shorter runs while trying out things, then like 3 runs each 4-6 hours long total where we beaten the lich, the duo and then a run where we died on the secret boss.
I liked it a lot, it has a ton of mystery and exploration when you first get into the game, combat and minion/companion controls are a bit weak, also felt like you'd always end up learning magic in some form. Tinkering seemed the strongest if you autistically minmaxing and pick through every level slowly for items etc
I have played some Barony, did they fix the game becoming a laggy mess in later levels?