Sauce: https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/202306280053/
In comparaison:
>The action RPG from Square Enix - Final Fantasy XV - sold 2,648,696 units first week at retail (From: https://www.vgchartz.com/article/267083/final-fantasy-xv-sells-an-estimated-265m-units-first-week-at-retail)
>the 5 million meme was only shipping
>16 outsold the first week of 15 in 6 days
>AHHHHH SHAZAMSISTERS SAVE MEEEEEEEE
Hes already coping in the other thread.
fake news yoshitpiss cope
>Denial
>Anger (You are here)
holy FRICK
so glad i bought a ps5
lol square sold off eidos because they didnt make the 6 million sales target in the first week
That article was written three weeks after the release of Tomb Raider. FF16 has only been out for a week. Not saying that FF16 is exactly on track to break even, but your evidence is questionable at best.
Tomb raider launched on multiple platforms, anone.
I need something new, this game is as boring as FF13 and FF12.
Give me some really good turn based JRPGs since final fantasy is dead.
I want something great similar to FF6-FF10 and suikoden and breath of fire.
Already played zesteria and trails in the sky, both of which were too boring to finish.
Is there anything else that wont bore me to death?
Crystal Project
Thank you anon, seriously.
That looks like it's perfect for me, buying it right now.
i've been playing the first Shin Megami Tensei lately, never played any of them or Personas before and it's neat. it's like a less kiddy Pokemon.
It's out? Or is this just preorder numbers?
* Exclusive sales for 6 months from the release of the PS5 version
* Total number of package shipments and download sales
Its full sales number.
Also reminder that 7r took just 3 days for 3mill sales.
>Barry
>Barry
>Barry
WHO THE EVER LOVING FRICK IS BARRY AND WHY IS HE RENTFREE IN GankerS MIND
So how is your first day on Ganker treating you?
I think Barry does nothing. I think it's the weirdos who name drop him are the biggest losers. I've heard people talk more about Barry than actual barry posting here.
Same with tendies always talking about some eric guy
The final fantasy thread boogieman. Anytime someone has anything critical to say about FF, they cope by saying Barry made the post. Because apparently, nobody criticized FF before Barry did.
Spammer with a scat fetish. Keeps calling everything he doesn't like shitpiss.
An autistic australian homosexual who is obsessed with FF15. Was trying to pit fanbases adjacent to 15 against each other for at least 8 years.
Has at least four twitter accounts, all spamming the same shit he's spamming on this board. Has at least one reddit account that got dowvoted into oblivion. Originally a neogay or gamefaqs poster, was so autistic he got banned there.
A tulpa made from the collective minds of schizos that have an iq so low that they are materially incapable of understanding that 2 people with the same opinion are not the same person. A thread can have 300 unique IP's posting and the schizos will proclaim 299 of them as being Barry proxy-posting.
Given that the homosexual has four twitter accounts and the mods themselves stated they had to ban several proxies in one thread, he absolutely fricking exists.
Funnily enough a post like yours got deleted alongside his shitposting on more than one occasion so get a fricking life already maggot.
oh please link to this thread, that sounds hilarious
If only that we’re the case. Pay attention newbie. The dumbass has multiple accounts on a bunch of websites and has gotten banned here more times than anyone could count.
I refused to believe that anyone who visits these thread's doesn't know about the xv schizo
Same
>muh boogeyman
Nono no anons Barry does exist
I was laughing at diablogays and their dying game, then i binge watched wowg and someone was protecting wow and blaming ffantasy
Some time later out of curiosity i went to ff xiv gen and an autistic guy was spamming gay shit and saying that he was returning that crap to the ffgen
Fun shit and i guess there's more
An actual schizo, ignorant idiots who didnt have the pleasure of seeing his sperg ass have a meltdown in threads are quick to throw it off as a boogeyman because they havent dealt with him
Barry is just a spook story a fair tale that Gankerirgins tell themselves before they go to bed.
>rat on Square Enix and Barry will come to get you
Some guy on Twitter, apparently. No one gave a frick about the dude until the schizophrenics here on Ganker decided to make him their boogieman.
Barry
Ah. so, he's like Eric Boogeyman in Famitsu's weekly sales thread
Tomorrow's Famitsu thread should be good
Is it tomorrow? Something to look forward to. Quiet times are coming for the weekly numbers if this game doesn't do well, I think.
>Tendies vs MMOgays
Imma prepare the popcorns
We love to create boogieman characters just to amuse ourselves on this site.
If you frequent FF threads you would know he relentlessly shitposts and samegays these threads and has been doing so for roughly a decade now.
>If you frequent FF threads
I'm just there spiritually. Until SE gets their shit together I'm not putting a foot in any of those threads.
And since a character like him can create such ruckus I suppose that's the best choice one could make.
You are making the correct decision. Discussing this franchise on this board is absolute dog shit. JRPGs in general usually attract the most schizos. It's why Xenoblade threads are in roughly the same boat.
For over a fricking decade, final fantasy threads have been plagued with this shitskin
eh?
The sales of XV also dropped off a cliff because people realized the game was shit.
XVI is an actual good game and will keep selling over the years.
Only shipments. Literally meaningless metric.
It's already dropping off a cliff on retailers.
XV literally has the strongest post launch sales in the franchise
why do you homosexuals lie so much?
YWNBAW
Fake news
Go fash, no cash
Its an official statement anon.
But its not a good or positive news for mainline FF title.
3mill in a week is actually pretty bad.
God of War Ragnarok only sold 5 mil in it's first week and that was literally the fastest selling game in PlayStation history and was probably made on twice the budget and was way more high profile in it's marketing. 3 million in a week is maybe not the best out there but it's in no way anywhere close to being something you could call bad.
Ragnarok numbers is SOLD unit. While SE numbers is SHIPPED.
Shipped =/= Sold.
Well good thing the article specifically mentions sales and not shipped coppied.
When will people realize that shipped copies are also sold copies?
Retailers don't get hundreds of thousands of copies for free. They have to pay SE for them and they get their money back plus a small profit with each unit they themselves sell to us.
>SOLD AND SHIPPED ARE DIFFERENT!!!
>ehm, ackshually....
Goddamn, make up your fricking minds!
Shipped is only interesting in the long term.
See: TLOU2
Every retailer ordered millions of units expecting the game to sell as well as the original TLOU. Easy +10 million sales.
But what happend? People didn't like the game and most of those ordered copies ended up rotting in the stores with people making funny screenshots about it. Stores giving away free copies of TLOU2 with the purchase of a washing machine/Switch or whatever.
That means that Sony made A LOT of money during the release window thanks to everyone buying so many copies but it also made post-launch sales basicly non-existent as there was no actual demand for the game. Sony got rich while the retailers had to suffer.
Thing is it affects stock in the future
Remember that 3DS and Wii U era where if you didn't pre order a popular Nintendo game then fat fricking chance you'll find it in stores? It's not like sales were particularly out of this world for those titles, it's actually because retailers had so much experience with early 3DS titles going ridiculously undersold.
Sell through is an important stat for future business
Ok yeah I see that now, fair enough. It does also include digital sales so it's not entirely worthless.
This is fricking stupid.
We used SOLD numbers because it indicate the realistic product performance in the market.
Were using it as an argument whether FFXVI is either being well received or not.
A store storing 2000 unit of FFXVI in their warehouse does not indicate whether this game is popular or not.
Now frick off with this shipment = sales bullshit.
While you're not wrong, that isn't really "better". I'm willing to bet SE are aiming to sell more than 3m lifetime, and they're not selling anything more until the current stock goes away.
So even if they've gotten the profit from 3m already, despite that the game is available in every store I search, that means that it's also going to come to a quiet halt right there until the REST of those 3m are moved.
I'm not an XVgay. I think XV, Forespoken and XVI all sucked. I have no horse in this race.
When will people who reject the distinction realize that the point is how well it's doing with players and not how high retailer projections were? Anyway, OP is the one who tried to make the distinction and ended up being wrong:
Foot for foot, 15 outsold 16 by 2 million units in a seventh of the span of time.
That's right: FF15 SOLD and SHIPPED 5 MILLION UNITS IN 1 DAY. 16 DID 3 IN 1 WEEK.
*15 potentially SOLD 5 million on the first day, not shipped.
XV got released two platforms with a userbase of around 80+ million while XVI is PS5 only with a console that has an abysmal attachment rate and less than 40 million units sold.
PS5 software sales are so bad that Sonygays are coping by saying that its all scalpers who own the majority of PS5s resulting into worse software sales.
XVI making 3 million is actually the biggest launch the PS5 had so far. Which just shows how bad the situation on that platform really is.
>XVI making 3 million
The thing is we don't know how much the sell through is actually. The estimate based on charts performance indicate that 60% of the 5mill unit XVI shipped is sold to the customer.
Now do the same math on XVI.
>5mill unit *XV shipped
Typo.
VGchartz is not EVER a reliable source, anon. No one who seriously puts up data and metrics links to them, because they don't have hard numbers and can be wildly off due to their estimates. On the other hand, even if you want to assume that the 5 million is shipment inclusive (which SE doen't say is the case), that's 2 million more shipments for just the first day compared to XVI's first week.
XV almost killed the franchise that's why they fired the director, so now YoshiP has an uphill battle to fight but he still managed to make a hit
How do you ship digital copies? It's just a button, a transaction and boom.
You don't. The articles say shipped + digital.
Asterisk and fine details anon. Always pay attention to those instead of the misleading, click bait headlines.
>※パッケージ出荷本数とダウンロード販売数の合計
The source mentions physical shipped plus digital
gamer . ne . jp/news/202306280053/
Isn't it strange how you won't post any sources?
I just clicked on the link in OPs post, the frick are you talking about? If you want to argue it's a bad source then sure maybe you could argue that but it's right there.
Oh no no no shipped and digitally sold
Yoshigays still shooting copium right into their penis.
Imagine losing to 15 of all things. That game sucked ass.
>and digital sales
>multiplat
Man even your cope is pathetic Barry
16 is including digital too moron
xv sold more on ps4 alone than 16 did on ps5
>game released on a platform which a bigger installbase as well as XBOX has sold more than a game on a platform with a smaller installbase and no other versions whatsoever
Shipped copies are still sold copies. They got their money from those 3 million. Shipped data is only interesting in the long term cause retailers failing to sell those copies to the consumers means less future orders and therefore less sales.
PS5 install base is 40M vs 80M of PS4 and Xbox One combined by the end of 2016. Though Xbox sales only accounted for 10% of XV's sales back then.
unironically this, a publisher saying "OMG OUR GAME SOLD SO GOOD GUYS I PROMISE PLS BUY IT" means jack shit
they said this with XV too and that game bombed so hard they cancelled all the DLC
I bet the shitty XV mobile game made more money
Why are you replying to yourself, Barrytroon?
>"barry totally exists because his posting style is extremely obvious, you can tell when it's him!"
>call literally everyone barry
you fricking idiot
Shut the frick up Barry. Go back to /wowg/.
I don't play blizzgames
seethe, FFtroon
there is not a single good Final Fantasy game except the fricking rhythm game and maybe IV
Cope, you lost Barry
dilate 🙂
Why even enter this thread if you don't even like ff lmfao
FF threads are designated shitposting threads there will never be a good one about almost any entry
What games do you like?
>bazzagay obsessed with wiener
Checks out
You people seem to ignore that 3m shipped is not 3m sold. Considering 3m INCLUDES ALL DIGITAL SALES it means that if you give SE maximum credit they can have achieved 3m.
That does not mean they DID achieve 3m.
Actually by the phrasing of this 3m sounds very unreasonable considering how freely available the game is at retailers.
I know it's funny to defend/attack big games but use your brains here lads.
>buy PS5
>Bundle
>no games
>ofc it is FF 16
FFXVI is a poorly paced action game that is only a bit more fun than FFXV tbh. I don't like either
It’s the best mainline title (besides XIV) since X. I’m enjoying it a lot.
>besides XIV
Frick off, that game hasn't been good since 2019
Who cares about games when I can obsess over sales!
why do you act like you're not the one making 99% of sales threads
I'm not
Xbox trannies having another bad day.
Wow you mean people place value on objective data? You can cry till you're blue in the face about it's subjective quality but you can't deny sales xbot
3 million for a PS5 exclsuive isn't bad at all.
It's the first one to break 2 million AFAIK
>Ganker - Barry News and Discussion
sales does not equal enjoyment
i've bought every single final fantasy game on both console and PC when available - until now
this was the last straw for me, square enix ain't getting any more of my money ever again
Barry, are you okay?
So, Barry, are you okay?
Are you okay, Barry?
that's not really the growth squenix expected tho
NOOOOOOOO
XV SISTERS IT WASN'T SUPPOSE TO END LIKE THIS
Sorry barry-schizo, but according to SE themselves XV shipped 5mill unit in its first week, calling it the fastest selling FF ever.
SE used shipment for both occasion.
>barry literally cannot hold his spaghetti right now
HOLY KEK
I'm one of the first few people who called Barry, Barry homosexual.
I fricking hate XV, and fricking loathe XVI.
Both is a piece of shit and deserve to bomb.
SE always used shipped to bloat the numbers. They also did it for 7Remake. Forspoken is well... Forspoken.
Yes, you keep referring to yourself in third person, Barry. You are losing it!
Yes, and they've done so for 16. However, not in the 15 sales report- which encompasses the first day's sales.
See:
You say that, but the gulf of a week vs a day with a potential separation of shipped vs actual sell through. When topped with the low sales of Xbox versions for these games universally, the gulf is far, FAR more exorbitant. The release calendar for this game is a desert and the console library is paltry. There's no reason short of a distinct disinterest for even a relatively smaller install base to really dig in.
Fine print anon, never miss the fine print.
Fair catch, anon. I got the Destructoid claim that attached the report. Shouldn't have trusted them.
So it's 5 million shipped+digital in one day vs 3 million shipped+digital for the first week.
SE says XV sold 5 million on its first day alone. The report I've seen actually doesn't mention "shipped", so it might be legit sell through.
>the reports I've seen and support my claim=true
>reports that don't support my claim=false
There are no reports from SE themselves that don't support my claim:
jp square-enix com/company/ja/news/pdf/ff52cb7ec4b18179469c96a80e3fd9b2.pdf
>the absolute state of barry
Holy shit, this is amazing. Look at the complete mental meltdown he's having.
>b-but mush shipments it's n-not a valid metric
>no see, this FFXV metric is totally valid though and doesn't include shipments as well because it just doesn't..ok?
Damage control better next time
>The action RPG from Square Enix - Final Fantasy XV - sold 2,648,696 units first week at retail
On a system with other games. This is all PS5 has, three years into its lifecycle. The attachment rate with that considered has to be abysmal.
it's a good game I'm glad week 1 is doing well.
Since it's really enjoyable I feel like it will continue to sale and not flatline since it feels more like a complete package compared to how XV launched.
man u guys are morons
ff16 is a PS5 exclusive
shit will not outsells ff15 at all
stop with this moronation
Hello, Barry Department?
*timed exclusive, just like FFXV was
>sells less than 15
>barry lost
???
>shipped*
>including unredeemed digital codes and bundles
It still hasn't earned money with 3 millions shipped and it will be a while until FF16 gets to 4 millions, lol. This shit was in development close to 8 years, no matter how you look at it it's a flop.
>the shills are now pretending that 2.6m is good for a mainline Final Fantasy game
>they also disingenuously pretend that shipped means sold
This game bombed. It FLOPPED. Look anywhere and you'll see the negativity surrounding this game. Literally EVERY twitch chat makes fun of the cringe worthy dialogue and gameplay. Most streamers have dropped it already and those who didn't have been shitting on it. There is no word of mouth that will help this game. It's garbage and dead on arrival and despite this you shills continue defending it. It's YOU who is the actual Barry. Your threads routinely have 70-80 posters, there is literally NO INTEREST.
It's week 1 so it'll probably catch up, 3 million isn't that far off from the best sellers in the series. It's not like FF does Mario or Zelda numbers.
There's no official basis for those FFVII Remake numbers, I don't think.
https://playtracker.net/insight/game/58779
Oy vey, looks like someone hasn't subscribed to the Patreon.
Just as I thought.
It is funny how hard Zelda and FF Flipped when it came to sales. The best selling game was TP at 8 million across 2 consoles and now you have 10 million in one day with Tears
Go away Barry.
2.6 million is 15 moron. Which is less than 16's 3 million. I swear the lack of reading comprehension of this place gets worse by the day
He’s still going LMAOOOO
If that is a flop, then what is XV? A literal piece of trash? HAHAHAHAA
3 million units shipped first week vs 5 million first day is a huge difference.
The former is a projection from the retailers of first month sales while the latter is the same for first week sales.
In other words, FFXVI will sell in a month what XV did in a week.
>That fat guy
Frick I memory holed that
Now I remember the cup ramen quest
and whatever the frick that carnival was supposed to be
why is ff15 such a sloppy mess of a game
>why is ff15 such a sloppy mess of a game
It's the only FF game I never actually finished because it was such a mess
When will you homosexuals learn that week launch sales are a measure of marketing, not of quality?
No shit XV would sell more, it had duke nukem forever levels of mysticism surrounding it, people were hyping that shit up for nearly 10 years, since the first trailer of Versus XIII was announced.
I understand that some of you are just using sales as a shiposting mechanism but the ones that reply seriously to the bait are more disappointing.
>no fan art
>no viral memes and videos
>no waifus, so waifugays don't care
>no word of mouth
>actual discussion threads take hours to hit bump limit (compare it to elden ring that averaged 4-5 an hour)
>already feels promptly forgotten
>All popular streamers, such as Asmongold have dropped the game
I see no way this game will do well long term, why would it? There is no good word of mouth, there is nothing to the game. There is no viral nature to the game at all.
Anon you just described FFXIV
>there is no good word of mouth
Delusional
The devs shot themselves on the foot making it a PS5 exclusive.
Sure, you get your short term instant revenue from the deal, but you are killing the initial interest by making it available to only a fraction of potential buyers.
The interest will naturally dwindle down by the time the PC release comes out.
>The devs
This was all on Matsuda, having Sony cart in wheelbarrows of money to camouflage the mismanagement especially of the western studio titles.
man you casual morons really are something. let me guess, you just started actually playing video games during the pandemic? your favorite games are by fromsoft and cd projekt red? probably have a triforce tattoo.
>>no fan art
This hits hard.
R34 only has 30 images. That's pathetic.
Final Fantasy XVI is simply selling through word of mouth and minimal advertising campaign; XV had a cataclysmic level of hype surrounding it due the gigantic mystery around its development hell spamming two generations, then there was the huge marketing campaign near release, that damn theater presentation, all of that and it was multiplat on release.
Let’s not even mention XV trying to save itself by releasing anime, movie and DLC Episodes, and in the end it got canned. XVI is a complete product that people will just keep buying in the upcoming months knowing they don’t need a multimedia chart to keep track of everything.
FFXVI is guaranteed additional DLC now (prrobably Leviathan and Sins of Dzemekys backstory) and a (spritual) sequel with the same team and engine.
Meanwhile FFXV will never be finished, Tabata is making NFT shit, and remaining Luminous devs have been put under CBU2 to be Yoko Taro's code monkeys.
Absolute best timeline.
Whoa looks like the word of mouth is really workin-
What killed the hype?
AIIEEE ASMONGOLD-SAMA PLEASE SAVE XVI LIKE HOW YOU SAVED XIV
People still fall for clickbait?
OH NO NO NO NO NO
Honkai Star Rail: 39k.
>l-look at twitch !!
so pathetic
>xvi selling 3 million copies means it's also pushing basedstation sells which will later help rebirths sell numbers
Omedeto xvi friends
>2,648,696 units
That's 351,304 short of 3,000,000 units. Why are delusional Yoshi-P dickriders so bad at math?
Not sure where he is coming from.
SEs report simply says "over 3 million.
Which could mean 3.000.001 copies or 3.999.999 copies. We don't actually know.
>Which could mean 3.000.001 copies or 3.999.999 copies.
Yes, because if the number was close to 4m they certainly wouldn't say that, right? Because that wouldn't sound better, they'd play it down and say "over 3m".
Nice reading comprehension, moron
>Final Fantasy XV - sold 2,648,696 units
>XV
>15
>That's 351,304 short of 3,000,000 units
The point exactly
get a load of this fricking psycho
https://twitter.com/psxbnin/with_replies
https://twitter.com/theblueness1/with_replies
https://twitter.com/ninxbops1/with_replies
He has even more too
https://twitter.com/KetX2L/with_replies
>he has a Maya pfp one now
jesus fricking christ
barry won
xvi discord cultists malding
>vgchartz
just end your life now
>couldn't even beat remake
fflop16
>have 1/3 the console numbers
>only 500k less
By ratio, FFXVI is selling better than 7R
>3 million is good now for final fantasy
Barry never had a chance, Imagine fervently shilling for FORSPOKEN even post release
>FFXV: 5m shipped (1 day)
>FF7R: 3.5m shipped (3 days)
>FFXVI: 3m shipped (1 week)
That, and no revenue talk, means sell-through is probably closer to 2m.
It's not a disaster, but I wouldn't gloat over the continued contraction of the FF brand.
>It's not a disaster
No that's pretty awful for a brand new AAA flagship-of-the-genre title. I'm pretty sure no one is celebrating as SE.
This isn't even a real number. Looks like something a japanese blog made up. The real number could be lower or it could even be higher but we don't know and wont find out unless Square Enix says something
FFXV week 1 retail sales were about half of the shipments.
No see that doesn't count because people weren't downloading games in 2017.
>vgshartz estimates
You're both clinging to VGchartz estimates, which are broadly recognized as unreliable. Additionally, we've already confirmed that both XVI's and XV's numbers are physical shipped with digital. This anon's
breakdown is wholly accurate to the known data.
That's the point, going by 2016 patterns sales should be closer to 1.5.
>vgchartz
kek
it is actually very good when considering how much smaller the PS5 userbase is compared to PS4's
>it's not a disaster for the brand
It fricking IS.
https://archive.vn/g4Ad4
Remember this absolute gem of barry shitposting?
Even fricking reddit had a field day with that one
So where is the steam released
>making up articlesto defend movieshit
Shipped means Square Enix sold 3 million digital codes to sellers.
Shipped has an agreement, that any unsold codes will be bought back by Square Enix months from now.
This means they can sell 3 million codes, but only 500k or 1m can be bought by actual customers and the rest just sit at the company ready to be bought back later.
It's effectively marketing lies.
No! A salt-of-the-earth company like Square Enix, so close to my heart, would never lie to me!
That is not how video game retail works. You get a shipment of a few hundreds/thousands of games for your store. These aren't codes, they're physical disks with codes on them that aren't registered or noted in any way on bootup. You can play your PS5 offline with this disk and SE will never know.
Then you sell as many of those as you can to consumers. Whatever is left you can either sell at a discount, give away alongside other purchases or throw in your bargain bin.
WHAT YOU CANNOT DO IS RETURN THEM, VIDEO GAME PUBLISHERS DON'T ACCEPT RETURNS ON THE AMOUNT OF UNITS YOU YOURSELF CHOSE TO ORDER FOR YOUR STORE, THEY HAVE SOLD THESE TO YOU.
"sale or return - noun
The selling of goods to a retailer on condition that the latter may return any he has not sold."
It's over.
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD
I AM CUMMING
I AM CUMMING
I THINK BARRY SUCKS
When is Barry committing suicide and where will it be streamed
https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoothShortMartenSeemsGood-c1zbASdbW2_HUgve
I have that Metroid 2 poster.
>listening to twitch streamers
Barry xisters what do we do?!
Barry's staggered. Quick, finish him.
It's two million lower than FFXV. 40% down. Barry won
SE has sold 3m. That doesn't mean 3m customers bought it. It means that some unfortunate retailers are going to have to bargain-bin very soon.
Barry its 2023. What the frick is a retailer or bin? How fricking old are you?
PRESS L3 + R3 TO FACE THE TRUTH
>FFXV ships 5M units in a single day
>FFVIIR ships 3.5M units in 3 days
>FFXVI ships 3M units in 6 days
If anything, all of this just proves what anyone with a half a brain had already figure out since FFXIII: FF is a series in decline and Squeenix has zero clue about how to reverse this trend.
>Squeenix has zero clue about how to reverse this trend
The only path to success...is to take the turn based pill.
Keep winning because that is lower than every ff ever
XV did 5m you tard
Yoshi-P always win
Oh guess Final Fantasy is saved afterall.
Holy shit, I kneel.
YoshiP, please let me massage your wieneru.
> Barry is now acting like 3 million is bad when it out sold fricking ff15
Barry you okay ?
>FFXV sold 5m
Sounds like you're coping mate.
This somehow revigors me.
Has the console war impacting my mind bros?
>16 outsold the first 7 days of 15 in 6 days
this might be a new low in sales comparisons lol
I can't wait pcbros
OH NONNONONONO
>NOOOOOO MY REVIEW BOMBING
>IT'S SHIT YOU HEAR ME
Barry lmao. Just give up you lost lol. I cannot wait for XVI to outsell ff15 in a single year
I think it's funny that the last Hitman game, that sold 4m, got shot in the head but FF16 that -might- have sold 3m copies to consumers is being praised. SE is a weird company.
>SE is a weird company
You aren't wrong there. I think they have a pretty clear problem of direction at the leadership level. Outside of their big ticket titles, they've been having quite an identity problem as of late. Even if they've had some semi successful games, I can't picture a development / publishing studio around right now that has lower lows than them. They consistently put out the biggest flops in gaming.
>Forspoken
>Valkyrie Elysium
>Diofield Chronicle
>Babylon's Fall
You forgot
>Harvestella - a farming sim without actual romance mechanics
>Balan Wonderworld - lmao
>The Quiet Man
>Left Alive
Yeah good call.
Even though I'm not sure I'd include Harvestella as I was under the assumption it performed pretty well sales wise. It was janky as frick though.
Chronicle
I remember playing that and thought it was interesting but I also knew right away that this shit had no chance at being a financial success. It needed FAR more work before it could be considered anything close to a money-maker.
Barry's butthole is getting plowed by a herd of chainsaws and jackhammers.
>uses metacritic to shill ff15 for a decade
>ff16 does better on metacritic
>uses sales figures to shill ff15 for a decade
>ff16 does better
Oh how the chickens are finally coming home to roost.
So can you people like just actually not read?
3m is lower than 5m.
Why are you celebrating victory when you've sold 2m less than the worst game in the series?
seethe my little poojeet your god just lost its "fastest selling FF ever" badge its me barry, you know who
But 3 million is a smaller number than 5 million. Explain your logic.
You pulled five million out of your schizophrenic brain, Barry. FFXV sold 2.6 million in 7 days. FFXVI sold 3 million in 6 days. You lost Barry.
FFXV was also multiplatform and still didn't sell as fast as FFXVI has on PS5 alone.
No, SE themselves confirmed 5m. How are you going to dismiss that I wonder?
>You pulled five million out of your schizophrenic brain, Barry.
this homie shaking right now while typing this barry literally lives rent free in so many peoples heads
https://www.famitsu.com/news/202306/28307812.html
>XVI's total number of shipments and digital is 3 million
Meanwhile, in reality, XVI number is also the number of shipments
Are you that schizo from the previous thread? The one who keeps saying the translation was wrong and it actually 5 million? Because you apparently know better than the japanese themselves Kek
I suppose the contextual comparison of install base is something no one wants to bring up.
FF16's 3 million is far more impressive than FF15's 5 million if you look how limited the PS5's install base is compared to FF15 being a multiplat for far more popular consoles (PS4 / XBone).
But I'm assuming someone will reply to this just saying it's a cope and it doesn't matter. People that spam statistics and the only thing they look to add is "SEE?!?! NUMBER BIGGER" are always hilarious to me.
XV was 80% PS4 (50M units at the end of 2016) 20% Xbox One (30M units)
PS5 is sitting at 40M units, so tops that's only a 30% install base difference.
But even now you're looking at the statistics from a perspective that makes your conclusion look favorable.
I can argue that a game coming out on the PS4/Xbone also had much more competition than a game that came on on PS5 simply because the PS5 has very few games to chose from while the PS4 at least had some. Meaning that a good chunk of the sales of FF16 could simply come from people who don't have anything else to play on their machines.
The reason people compare number A to number B is usually because when seen as a whole, statistics are too easily manipulable.
But what I'm trying to get at, which I'm not sure if you would agree, is sales figures on their own are ultimately meaningless.
>statistics are too easily manipulable.
Yes I 100% agree. Just throwing them into a void is meaningless without the greater context of anything. I find FF15 discussions interesting when they aren't done by schizos because the game's history is actually pretty interesting with the huge marketing tail that it had. Even with shit like Versus XIII, there was a ton of hype built up around FF15 at the time. What I'm more interested than sales numbers is budget spent on marketing. I'd be super curious how FF15 and FF16 compare. Hell even compare FF13 even though that may be too of a time gap for that comparison to mean anything as not like FF13 is dumping money for Twitch advertising.
I do agree with you, to an extent. There are too many fuzzy numbers to say what game actually made SE the most amount of money, but that's also not what's being talked about ITT. What's being talked about is that people are saying 3m sales is less than 5m sales.
It depends on what number you're looking for, and if you're looking for profit, then no sales numbers alone are rarely a good indicator. But if you, however, want to compare sales, then sales numbers usually are a good indicator when seen with no other context.
If you add context you can reach other conclusions but the value gets fuzzier.
I don't work for SE so I ultimately don't care all that much about profit or sales. People love to vastly overestimate how meaningful this shit is in the grand scheme. No matter how polarizing, a FF game isn't going to put SE out of business. It just isn't happening.
Pre-ARR FFXIV was probably one of the biggest flops for them and they still put the money into fixing it into a brand that's viewed positively now. They aren't afraid of sunk cost when it comes to FF as FF is their poster child.
I just find the whole discussion interesting when people aren't just flinging shit around. I like digging into context of statistics like this but sales figures are always, as you say, super fuzzy due to the nature of how companies like to word certain things. Blizzard is the most recent example I can think of where they included a bunch of shit into their "sold more than 666 million!!" figure so they could use it as a marketing gimmick. You kind of have to trust publicly traded companies and what they put out as it's the best we really have. But I wish there was more readily available data on stuff like sales.
I think back to Steam pulling user data before all that shit went private. Now we have absolute dogshit metrics for a lot of Steam releases where all sales figures are super rough estimates.
It's because people already liked Noctis even before his game was out. 15 had tremendous marketing because SE was hyping it up to be like 7 with the XV Universe. 15's 5 million is a minute amount im contrast to the shit it costed to produce. We haven't even talked about Versus 13's developmemt catastrophe
I don't care.
3 mil is more than enough for the game to succeed.
I was expecting 1 mil or worse.
You know exclusivity money is counted as sales right? It could sell zero copies and still get 100m in sales from the sony deal.
Yeah, this means it's even stronger.
YoshiP and S-E took a bet and it works.
https://twitter.com/FF16_JP/status/1674014781437804545/
Fake news, lmao. 3 million copies is what they shipped to retailers. In reality, FF16 is being outsold by TOTK.
Who cares about TOTK? It completely shit on FFXV not even a WEEK out LMAO!
>Game on console many people don't have is being outsold by a ZELDA GAME on a console with a much larger install base.
No shit.
Switch sold x3 ps5
Ff16 sales are actually really good
It's the only big game on ANY platform in its release period for a console with almost nothing to buy in the way of exclusives. It's also not actual sell-through.
Its me Nathan, barry. I saw you beat your mother again.
FFXVI did not sell that many copies. That shit is inflated because Square Enix probably bought their own copies so people can buy them in droves. Frick Final Fantasy and frick Square Enix and their fraud ways. Final Fantasy is so fricking garbage to begin with. Frick you.
Lets be fricking real, if the fanboys believed this they would not keep shilling the game like their lives depended on it.
That's probably true.
>Barry BTFO 7R boomer
>Barry BTFO XIV troons
Kek
Official SE media
>https://press.na.square-enix.com/FINAL-FANTASY-XV-DAY-ONE-SHIPMENT-AND-DIGITAL-SALES-EXCEED-FIVE-MILLIO
>https://press.na.square-enix.com/FINAL-FANTASY-VII-REMAKE-SHIPMENTS-AND-DIGITAL-SALES-SURPASS-35-MILLIO
>XV sold 5 million in 1 day
>VIIR sold 3.5 million in 3 days
>XVI 3 million in A WEEK
Yup XVI is a TOTAL FLOP
FF16 is ps5 only
7re was ps4 only.
And there were around 2.5x more ps4 so?
Almost 1 person every 10 is buying the game, those are actually insane numbers.
>3 years into the gen and 40M PS5's in the wild
>MUH SMALLER INSTALL BASE
And you gays have the balls to say Barry is the one coping.
>15 SHIPPED 5m at launch
>actually sold 2.6 in a week
>16 sold 3 in 6 days
Cope
Verification not required
>SE confirmed 5m
>this is worse than 3m
>because I said so
Yoshicultists are getting desperate.
see
パッケージ出荷本数とダウンロード版販売本数の合計
XVI is number of shipments as well
holy fricking cope
Let the cope begin!
>selling less than the previous two AAA FF games is coping
sounds like projection
That says shipments, not sales, you dumbass.
>what is a platform?
Go back barry
>It's ok famitsu sales are bad because japan doesnt matter for Final Fantasy now, it'll make it up in the west
>It's ok western sales are bad because it came out late in the month, it'll pick up next month
>It's ok the total sales were bad because it's a PS5 exclusive and nobody owns a PS5, it'll pick up on PC
>It's ok the PC sales are bad because it's epic games store exclusive, it'll pick up once it's on steam
>It's ok the steam sales are bad because it's old now
what makes ff fans so autistic
I’m conflicted
On one hand FF 16 shipped 3 million and we don’t know how much it sold so in a way Barry was right (even though SE is the only reason 16 hasn’t sold more)
But seeing Barry go on a schizo rant is why I’m here
All of SE's games can be dissapointing. There's no need to pick sides. The funniest thing is seeing attempts at attaching qualifiers to the numbers to buffer away the reality of one game doing 2 million more units on its first day than the new one on managed on about a week.
>There's no need to pick sides.
This. I'm just here to watch you all kill each other over small things that ultimately don't matter.
This guy sure is pulling these numbers without understanding the math.
This canmt be fricking happening. The game bombed and Yoshitpiss is supposed to gwt fired?
>Theo's and his sister's final quest
NONONONONONONONNONONONNO
If you factor in how much they got paid by snoy for 6 months exclusivity too.
Pretty good.
Can see it getting 10mil when it eventually releases on PC+Xbox.
>saves FF14
>saves FF16
Bros, what are they going to give him next? Think they'll let him go back and fix FF15 and FF13?
FF6 PC: A Realm Reborn.
They're going to overwork him until he fricking dies and move onto a new director
>saves FF16
lowest FF launch in a couple decades isn't a good thing
I feel bad for Hiroshi Takai, nobody even knows that he is the guy making the game.
Yoshida even said that this was Takai's game not his but nobody care.
Yeah. I like yoshida but the media completely glossing over takai and maehiro is annoying.
Nah I don't mind Maehiro got glossed over. He fricked up the story so hard with its moronic pacing and narrative structute.
FFXVIII
But ff16 bombed and ff16 sold less than
ff15
ff7r
ff13
ff12
ff10
ff9
ff8
ff7
You lost barry
Imagine how many more it would have sold if it featured more diversity
Imagine how many more it would have sold if it featured lesbians instead of homosexuals
maybe if it wasn't an PS exclusive it would have sold more.
The cope around it is weird. The Wii U had little third party support and the first party titles had to prop up the console in a big way. Despite a very, VERY small install base, people were generally very surprised at software attach rate on the thing. People really bought the big titles. With XVI, there's no competition from the first or third party in its release period and the console hasn't had a flagship first party exclusive release in maybe a year and a half. People should be eager for SOMETHING to play, so the number really isn't impressive. Now I'm most curious about the Japanese sales reception.
The fact that people think that FF16 DIDN'T bomb is fricking hilarious.
The game sold like ass, even with all your favourite streamers playing it with #AD plastered all over their feeds.
It's over. Maybe they can actually write a decent story and have better gameplay that goes beyond spamming square.
Deany, out.
>reddit spacing
>Ganker tier knowledge
This homie would've called RE:Village a flop because RE6 sold more on the first day
t. Brainlet.
Deany, out.
Why did XVI make Ganker seethe so much?
Elden Ring wasn't this bad.
Because the hype surrounding Elden Ring was real.
The hype surrounding FF16 is so obviously manufactured and fake.
Deany, out.
Did you fricking sleep through Elden Ring's release week? Shit was mayhem.
>Why did XVI make Ganker seethe so much?
It's not a Nintendo game
Because Elden Ring had a PC release which is predominantly what people on this board own outside of Nintendo products.
>less people playing a game = more people to shitpost about it
It's just the way it goes.
Elden Ring came out on nearly everything and did immense numbers.
Every popular game (good or bad) will cause Ganker seethe.
Then why are they trying to do that with FF? Try doing it with a popular series like Persona or Tales of.
Ranni soothed my soul.
Ifrit is enkindling my soul.
What are you on about, Elden Ring on this board was apes screeching at each other.
This is big.
This is big.
I believe in you YoshiP!
Retailers estimate how many copies a big game will sell and buy stock based on that.
If the game sold well to end users, there will be no sales. If the game seriously underperformed there will be sales on Amazon and the prices will drop fairly soon to get rid of stock.
Either that or Square will agree to buy back.
>If the game seriously underperformed there will be sales on Amazon and the prices will drop fairly soon to get rid of stock
FF15 still sold fairly well and that game was on bargain bin sale within 6 months of release, so I don't know if I agree with this all that much.
15 was the fastest selling game in the franchise's history so far as the news reports said. 7R didn't really get sales updates after it hit 5 mil and SE said that the PC release did 'Fair'. If those games are any indication, being wary of the drop off is appropriate.
BARRY... DOES EXIST!
The real Barry is are the shills who defended this game along the way.
So is the final cope literally just doing the shipped and sold dance for the 900th time? Ganker really thought they had an actual tortanic' after the UK physical thing huh. These numbers aren't astronomical or anything but it's barely below 7R with less than half the install base, I doubt SE is crying if they're announcing figures at all.
Barry is having his last cope.
Yep. It's a fair success. It's not gangbusters and it's not legendary, it's not a flop or a failure, it's just a game that made money.
There's nothing to truly celebrate nor disparage, but we gotta have EPIC REACTIONS since we're on a post-2016 internet.
Really? I'd be crying. This is their first new mainline game after 15 that moved 5m units day 1. I don't know if they should be crying, but there are no toasts raised tonight.
The reason why they most likely aren't crying is because Sony probably gave them a fricking insane amount of money for the exclusivity deal.
And then they get another huge exclusivity deal for FF7Rebirth later this year.
I don't know if SE really gives a shit how well those games do as they probably are already paid for completely by Sony.
>This is their first new mainline game after 15 that moved 5m units day 1
*3m
>mainline FF
>3 million shipped plus digitally sold
They are crying
Its pretty ironic eh.
I remember going hell and back with Barry when he spammed the board with 'XV 5 MILLION SHIPPED FASTEST SELLING FF TITLES EVER' a rguing with him that sales =/ shipped.
Now XVIgays is using the exact same argument he makes.
In the end both of XV and XVIgays are just one of the same; A zoomer with his first favorite and might be, the only FF title that the swear to.
to be fair it was written sold on all sources, you'd have to look at the * to realize it was shipped + digital sales. Barry meanwhile was really arguing in bad faith when it was written shipped everywhere
? There is only one primary source and it says digital sales plus shipped.
It was the exact same with XV with moronic twatter users etc. calling it sales.
>The eikon fights are freakin EPIC bros!
>Spam triangle and do quicktime events
Ah... the average FF16 enjoyer.
Deany, out.
Reminder
The far more interesting number are the amount of retailers (online and offline) who still have the game in stock. This number says 3m now, which is okay, not great not terrible, but that number won't move until the retailers run out of copies because that's when they'll need more to sell from the publishers.
The other is digital sales, but that's a far less interesting topic until they actually tell us how many of those 3 million were shipped and how many were digitally downloaded.
>physical sales
>2023
OK dawg.
>retailers
I dunno. Do we know the breakdown from Sony comparing Physical / Digital PS5s?
They're selling a game where potentially a large portion of your install base can't actually buy the physical release from a retailer due to their console not even able to play it. I assume the digital version of the PS5 sold more as it's 100 dollars cheaper.
I hope they make lots of expansions and DLC for ff16 becuse that means XIV players will get less content, please baby jesus hear my plea!
Unlike FFXV, XVI story is done and complete. Highly unlikely that there's a DLC.
If they shipped 3m and then sold 3m it should be impossible to buy the game anywhere right?
Did the internet run out of 1s and 0s?
No, but the fact that the 3m tag is both retail and digital, that means that as long as a single retailer has the game in stock the actual number of people who got the game is less than 3m.
Well yeah it's easily mealy mouth marketerspeak.
The game has zero hype I wouldn't be surprised if they bundled the game with systems and are counting that as sales too.
You sell and then ship, anon. Game companies don't just hand over a bunch of video games for free to retailers.
SHIPPED and sold. It's a bundled number.
Barry is illiterate so he won't read this shit anyways.
Damn those are pretty weak sales for ff
Why is it failing?
MMO devs = MMO quality = Do not Play
Millions understand this instinctively.
Turns out it's not a very good game.
People can see through the fake hype.
Doesn't help streamers etc. are saying how amazing the story and gameplay is when they can see how that's not the case when they literally play the demo.
All games have sales, but if it goes on sale within a few months it undersold and retailers are trying to get rid of stock.
So time will tell.
3m is not a lot given this is sales to retailers to fill shelves either, this shows retailers had little faith in the game given these are worldwide numbers for a FF mainline massive budget title.
Not to mention that every retailer I can find still sells the game. If they'd all been empty then I could understand how this was just the beginning of the wave, but they're not so it probably isn't.
>physical
KWAB
4 stars on leaf amazon in terms of reviews at this point. Here's one negative review.
>XV better
Opinion discarded
Sure, but 21% of reviews were either 1 star or 2 star. Remaining were 4 or 5 stars. Shows that there's a reasonably large divide with this game.
Early buyers are generally more positive than stragglers so...we're looking at 4/5 and going down to probably 3/5 as the general consensus on the game.
The game sold less than 3 million. We don't know how much retail version were shipped, how much retails were sold and how much digital sold.
We only know that A (shipped) and B (digital sold) = 3 million
3 million is huge. 2.6 million is also huge for 38 million PS5's sold. Doomers seriously thought it would be under 2 million, 2 million was a conservative but realistic estimate. FFXVI has been very successful and it means you don't need Steam or Xbox in the first 6 months of release, PS5 is strong enough on its own and that means more timed exclusives. This will be the second most successful console Sony have ever made
this must be b8...or is it?
PS5 will be outselling PS4 and PS3 worldwide by December, it already is in Japan. If you can sell 3 to 5 million copies in the first 12 months of release on PS5 there is no point releasing on Steam at the same time if Sony will pay you. Barry lost, this is a great launch
>it already is in Japan
Hehe, is it now?
>Barry broke him to the point of being an unintelligible snoy
>He was already a snoy and is using Barry to try to drum up console war homosexualry
>He is b8
It's b8 and I bit twice. Oh well. Shipped + digitally sold 3 million is the lowest that an FF mainline has ever gotten to since VI.
Funny how quickly we went from "HAHAHA BARRY LOST" to "heres how those are actually pretty good numbers" in the blink of an eye.
Did people just memory hole the fact that XV was released on two different consoles, while XVI is an exclusive launch?
Statistically Xbox pretty much doesn't need to exist in terms of JRPG sales.
Learn to read. XVI has not 3 millions sold copies. It's a bundled number of shipped version and digital sells.
That's pretty much the same damn thing every single publisher says.
I thought "Final Fantasy doesn't sell on Xbox" though.
Are you memory holing how Japanese software does on Xbox?
If the game did really well, there will be zero sales for at least 6 months and there will be announced DLC.
If the game did poorly there will be zero dlc and sales will start popping at the 3 month mark.
So um, FF10 sold 6.6m on release day and it was a single-console exclusive too. How do we cope that away when FF16 probably cost 100 times more to make?
HAHAHAHAH WHAT HAPPENED homosexualS I THOUGHT IT FLOPPED BECAUSE OF BOX SALES IN THE UK OR ITS AMAZON RANKING LOL TIME TO have a nice day GankerIRGINS
Barry won
XVI cultists lost
>it lost because it didn’t outsell the remake of the most popular final fantasy
SEETHE
COPE
DILATE
BARRY
>when you see all these FF16 shills saying how much of a good game it is, yet they are posting on Ganker instead of playing this "masterpiece of a game".
Really gets the noggin joggin, huh.
It's been a week mate, anyone on Ganker who cared has finished the main game and is just finishing up side stuff/starting NG+ hard mode.
Already finished?
Can't be that good then.
you will never be Lanced Jack
Take off your trip gay, you don't deserve one.
No.
Deany, out.
>game is so bad no ones making threads about it
>game is so bad no one's playing it instead they're making threads about it
Make up your goddamn mind shazamtroony
go back to r*ddit to cope tripgay
>3 millions SHIPPED + DIGITAL in a WEEK
That's a flop. And making 10 threads about how actually it's totally a success is pathetic.
Crazy that even on ps5, movie games don't sell
I've got to admit, these threads have been the weirdest cope I've seen on Ganker in a while. It feels like a group of people are living in some eternal denial that a last mainline game that sold 5m somehow makes 3m acceptable. It feels like these people live in a different reality where the lower number is actually better.
RE4R had the same numbers and that was crossgen. That was a "flop" too now was it?
No but remakes cost far far less as the concept work, the level design, the characters and a good chunk of the modelling work is already done. You recast the voices, pay pajeets for 4k textures and bob's your uncle.
I guarantee you it took more to develop FF16's combat system then it took to remake RE4.
>doesn’t even know what the resident evil remakes are
Jesus fricking Christ what is this thread
Selling similar numbers to one of the highest selling FFs is suddenly bad now?
>RE4R
>vgchartz
It could be one million units higher OR lower than that.
The important part is not that XVI succeeds, but that Barry suffers.
isn't this a colossal flop for a final fantasy
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! YOOOOOSHIIIITPIIIIIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!
>squaregay attacking blizzardgays
This is like a pot calling a kettle black.
Btw, D4 is the fastest selling blizzard game ever. The previous one, D3, sold 3m in 24h.
You are the weeb equivalent of a shit eating blizzard fan.
16 trannies are copin'
Yoshit piss giving himself the ropin'
Grim dark GoT american Black person setting
Cancer-Sokens generic music youre already forgetting
Cooldown based MMO combat
Kill 10 elder boar, kill 10 grey wombat
QTEs too large in quantity
MMO devs = MMO quality
This westernized trash will never ever be,
Thought of by anyone as a Final Fantasy
FF15 = Hold O to win
>didnt even mention XV
>still lives rent-free in trannoids head
Call me barry already. Also it still sold more than XVI as bad as it was, but you already have a bunch of excuses why it doesnt count or its "not faiirrrr :(" to compare them
Barry.
KINO
>kill 10 grey wombat
Barry my boy, is that you?
THE ONLY FANTASY IS YOURS BARRY, AND WE SHALL BE ITS FINAL WITNESS.
LOOK YOU FRICKING moronS
the 3m shipped plus sold means the amount SE physically shipped to retailers + whatever amount sold digitally
So if for arguments sake it sold 1.5m digitally that means they shipped 1.5m units, but less than 1.5m of that physically shipment is sold through to customers
I fricking kneel
Maybe the true final fantasy was Barry's deluded mind all along.
Unironic TRAGIKINO
They have to remind you this """"is"""" a """Final Fantasy"""" """"game"""" [read: MMO cutscene reel]
>he actually fell for it
lmao
moron!!! idiot!!!
I know for sure that Clive says something similar in the "we will be your fantasies final witness" line and the book that the story is revealed to have fictionally been authored in at the end is literally called Final Fantasy so there was no reason for me to assume it would be out of place
This is what you've been reduced to? Pathetic.
Barry defended WoW and Forspoken for years only for this to happen
It's actually shipped in both cases. When game companies say "sold", it means "sold to retailers" so FFXV actually shipped 2m more. But to be honest (and because i don't want to defend FFXV, that game was ass) one had a massive hype buildup for 10 years and a lot of preorders on PS4 and XOne, the other was barely known until a few days before launch and is a PS5 exclusive. When a company decides to ship less at launch, it's either that they have less expectations of selling and/or that the retailers want less of it, the exclusivity on a console with a smaller park can have something to do with it as well. It also means less preorders - because FFXVI has to deal with the decreased buyer confidence due to the low quality of previous games. However 3m is not what i would call a failure either imo. For example, i'm a massive The Witcher 3 missile and it only sold (or shipped) 1.7 million in the first week, yet it has now surpassed 50 million in 2023, outselling Skyrim by 20 million. So i have no doubt, given this game is objectively better than FFXV on virtually all points lmfao, that it will surpass it's sales on the long run
Nah man, they announced 5 million copies for FFVII years ago and never mentioned sells again. This game will do 5-7 million lifetime.
>Woah bro 3 million
Is that impressive?
yes? most videogames never sell 3 million copies anon
RE4 did 4 million in 3 days.
On 5 platforms and still sold less than RE6.
RE4Rbros...
Re4 is also a remake of a universally beloved entry in resident evil, xvi is a completely new game, this is apples and oranges
>most videogames do not sell 3 million copies
>oh yeah what about this singular game that sold more
what about it
Dogma II will outsell XVI
>Source: my dirty ass
Who gives a shit moron I only care if a game is fun not which one sells more
Screen cap and we will return.
It's the weakest mainline FF sales in ages.
>B-but muh PS5 exclusive!
Yeah, what about it? It still has 40m install base, PS4 was around 50m when FFVIIR came out, and once upon a time the series was considered a system seller.
3m is not bad but it's nothing to brag about for FF and just continues the decline of the series in the public eye.
>PS4 was around 50m when FFVIIR came out
PS4 install base was 109mil when FF7R came out.
>but it's nothing to brag about for FF and just continues the decline of the series in the public eye.
most people do not care about sales metrics of a videogame. to claim that a game having a weaker launch than previous games has any meaningful impact of the impressions people have of it in the mainstream is absurd
You could tell the average person that a game sold 100,000 copies and they'd most likely think that's a big number as the average consumer never even looks at all these video game articles constantly shilled on this board.
You are pretty spot on.
You're saying as if this game is some sort of popular among casuals or normies when it's clearly not
I wonder if SE are worried seeing how well the pre-orders for SMRPGR are doing or if they've just closed their eyes to that shit.
Sold 3 million on one console that dirty dole monkeys can't afford. Bet on the rich, frick the third worlders
>shazam trannies really thought this would be le epic tortanic that kills SE
Every single time someone posts UK physical sales they are wrong, every single time
I hope these tortanic freaks never stop posting and coping and seething while I Sneed, this shit is unironically my entertainment
The best part is that they've been doomposting for years. Wasted all that time and energy just to be wrong and gay.
>selling worse than 7remake that is selling worse than XV
>This big ship can't sink! Who need a lifeboat?
You lost shazamie, it's time to rope
anon... you can still stop, it's not to late
flopgays are probably the most mentally ill people on here. just spending all day talking about how mass marketed AAA products are all failures despite performing decently enough. shit has to set a sales record for these morons to not consider it a flop
There's an immense amount of cognitive dissonance of people who are terminally online. There are people that legit think whining on places like Ganker, Reddit or Twitter make difference in the grand scheme. People really don't understand how insignificant these social media spaces are.
>3 million = sum of total shipped and total digitally sold
>this is now a success for a mainline Final Fantasy that even took ads out on UEFA champion's league
KEK
Your favorite mega corps that you're emotionally-attached to don't know you exist, and your white-knighting is pathetic(and subhuman).
>NOW ITS ABOUT LE MEGACORPS YOU LOST YOU LOST PLEASE THIS IS ALL I HAVE PLEASE DONT TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME ABLOOBLOOOBLOOOOO
okay lol
Cope. You manchildren lose your minds over your favorite products getting shit on and made fun of. Even feel personal-acheivement if they profit. Truly, subhuman.
Holy mother of projection anon. I enjoy videogames that are fun, relish in the suffering of tards that want fun games to fail. Simple as.
Majority of things that get shit on aren't good. And no, just because you say they are doesn't mean they are.
It's just a loud minority of morons butthurt it's a PS5 exclusive, step outside of the Ganker echochamber for once. I swear this place can't stop being wrong about videogames
XVI's literally the worst selling FF in the last decade
How you try to spin that as something positive is something I will never understand, is it fanboyism?
How?
Pretty much this. There's so much mental gymnastics among XVI gays here that I feel like I'm at a circus.
I'm pretty sure
>FFX-2
>FFXIII-2
>Lightning Returns
Sold less in their first week. Even FFX/X-2 HD Remaster sold more than LR
Don't forget that FF9 which many consider to be one of the best FFs made sold like shit because of FF8
>last decade
literally a franchise for mouth breathing shit eating morons lmao
Nobody is spinning anything. People posted for weeks gay fanfiction about square enix literally closing because it can’t recover from this epic disaster. It’s feminine, histrionic drivel. Like your post
>OH OH WHATS THIS, WHAT SPIN IS THIS?
Like lmao Black person you gays are so overly dramatic
>People posted for weeks gay fanfiction about square enix literally closing because it can’t recover from this epic disaster
Anyone who legitimately thinks SE would be put out of business from a Final Fantasy release should be laughed out of the room.
>decade
What FF games have launched in the last decade?
XV and FF7R are the new actual games. There were a number or rereleases and remasters and spinoffs.
The only ACTUAL tortanics that SE got were:
>The Spirits Within, a high budget movie that bombed so hard it caused the merger of Square and Enix
>FFXIV 1.0, that was saved at the last minute and is now ironically SE's biggest money source
bazza sisters it is fricking OVER……
Clive fricked Jill AND this board
AND benedikta
Reminder Noctis died a virgin
he had unlimited access to prompto bussy
>Hugo is a crazed shitskin that spends 5+ years seething over some inferior goods to the point of going full schizo.
Cant believe Barry got into the game.
The story was shaky overall but even the few parts of it that were good ended up being totally devalued because at the very end it turns out that nothing I just played through actually happened it was all just a fairytale book read by 2 children. I don't mean that it didnt happen in real life (duh) but I mean even within the games world Clives journey was just a fictional story.
If you are on the fence on wether you want to buy the game I would say don't. Nothing you do matters in the end and also the game is very hypocritical with how everything is revealed to be fictional yet they still have all the constant profanity and edgy degenerate gay intimacy etc to pander to edgy western GoT audiences
4/10 is about accurate or maybe 3/10
The game stops being GoT after Phoenix gate
Mindbroken barry
MMO devs = MMO quality = Do not Play
I'm sorry you had to experience this for yourself.
>larping as a player to push his moronic book theory
sad...
>moron didnt do sidequests and could not put 1 plus 1 together
>doing filler shit
No way, they put it in the main quest if it's actually important
>not doing sidequests in a FINAL FANTASY
let me guess, this is your first one? or maybe you only have 1 braincell?
I've played 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16 and never had to do side shit to understand the story until now apparently.
Well i have to be honest that i only played the first few sidequests but they were very boring just go here collect this type quests so I stopped doing. But even if there are good ones later one you have to keep in mind they are still just part of the childrens book story so if they have character moments its all fictional
Sad but it seems modern stories always need to have some weird curveball and dont want to give a happy ending....maybe some people like it thats fine but in my opinion i dont like it
Book ending fricked up the game for minority of people.
They overplayed the ball thinking someone will get a reference to fricking Heavensward
people cannot comprehend the events of the game really happened just in the past not in the present.
same as the ending for prey (the arkane one nit the old one)
so you're moronic. here, moron, i'll spoonfeed you: clive was given by a quill by tomes and was told to tell his story when he lays down his sword. this ain't rocket science so i doubt you'd need any more explanations after this.
Idk i told you this is my opinion so i dont know why you have to insult me. If you enjoyed the game thats good we should all try to find happiness in depressing times like this
I hope you can maybe get over yourself and grow as a person but maybe your offensive attitude is why you like this grimy ambiguous ending where nothing matters
Ganker aint your therapist, moron. go back to your moron hugbox.
>clive was [headcanon]
The whole thing was just a book, play the game
i played the game and im not a mouthbreather so i actually used this thing called a brain to piece shit together rather than take shit at face value. try it sometimes.
That's alot of words just to say you made shit up because you couldn't accept what was right in front of you.
>hurr clive use this pen to write your story
>clive IS SHOWN to only lose his left hand on the beach
>all other bearers that died to the curse had their whole body turn to stone before turning to dust
>jill sidequest: the dawn represents clive because he always comes back to her at dawn
yea youre just moronic
If its not a fiction story why does the villain keep calling clive mythos. He calls him mythos as foreshadowing that its mythological like Zeus for example in our world
That doesnt make sense because even in the fictional book story he dies after defeating Ultra so he couldnt have written the book as a historical account. Its fictional. I didnt like it either but they chose this ending for some reason
>ultra
so you didnt play the game.
He's the final boss and the creepy blue figure that calls you mythos. Clive ends up dead after defeating him
Btw i just realized the reason he calls Clive mythos is because he is the main character of the fictional book story. So i guess it was foreshadowed a bit that the events are fictional but i still dont like it
his name is ULTIMA you fricking mongoloid. yeah you didnt play the game.
You dodged the question. Why does he call you mythos if the story isnt mythological/fictional. You have no arguments only insults like a child maybe you should play the game then you will see its all a book
mythos
noun
my·thos ˈmi-ˌthōs
-ˌthäs
plural mythoi ˈmi-ˌthȯi
Synonyms of mythos
1
a
: myth sense 1a
b
: mythology sense 2a
2
: a pattern of beliefs expressing often symbolically the characteristic or prevalent attitudes in a group or culture
>clive represents and defends the "will" of man as per barnabas and ultima
I don't know "Thank you for your support" doesn't sound like they are doing a victory lap. Hopefully this lights a fire under their ass and we get the X/IX remake soon after VII is finished.
forgot pic
It's literally the same message as FF7R without the emojis.
That's some top tier schizo speculations
Exactly stop schizo speculating
WoW is better than FF14.
Stay mad.3
all of you shutup and let me tell you the true victory
An AAA game with solely white people sold 3 fricking million copies in a week, this is going to shift the market to normalcy again
But the white people are all portrayed as violent selfish crude buttholes... The only nice virtuous ones are Cid who gets killed off and Dion but he is gay because of course we have to make our best most likable other character gay...
Ps5 has like 32mil hardware sales. So 3mil is like 10% of users. Is that normal for single player games? I think the new Zelda had around the same sale to hardware ratio
its normal, playstation studio exclusives sold around the same amount, playstation gamers catalogue is so varied due to multiplat games that exclusives do not sell purely because they are exclusive, they have to be actually good.
also ps5 sales of software have been lower in general due to the moronic price increase to 79€
Interesting. Also another factor would be how much sony paid them for the exclusive window. I remember tomb raider exclusivity for Xbox was around 100mil - so I imagine the dealy
would have been similar/ or less but Sony does most of the marketing so square saves big there.
Just remake VI in Amano's art style and be done with it.
I just come in these threads to tell everyone that I will continue to purchase every single Final Fantasy game that comes out regardless of who makes them and how well they sell.
No you are a shill
So after looking into this myself and also as an unbiased person since I don’t give a frick about either FFXV or FFXVI, FFXV “sold” 5 mil based off both digital and shipped sales. FFXVI “sold” 3 mil based off both digital and shipped sales. FFXV existed on a console with a larger playerbase so I dunno if this will be any sort of consideration or justification for FFXVI sales, considering its SE probably not.
To be honest, I was kinda glad FFXV flopped and given the similar sales figure FFXVI is having I will be glad if that flops as well. I’d like the series to return to what it used to be and maybe knock Yoshida down a peg or two the guy is full of hubris in a passive aggressive kind of way
>as an unbiased person
>knock Yoshida down a peg or two the guy is full of hubris
BARRY
>I’m glad FFXV flopped
Reading comprehension.
Shut the frick up Barry, you dumb australian troony
>what it used to be
ATB? Turn based? Job system? There are so many different styles. Oldgays can't even agree on "what is used to be"
>name two things
>can't think of anything else
>yell THERE'S IS SO MANY YOU BIGGOT
Like a clockwork.
>Oldgays can't even agree on "what is used to be"
Because people that argue this aren't actual Final Fantasy fans. They're specifically fans of ONLY the Final Fantasy game they played first (usually something like 7 or 10).
>Job System
There's only like 4-5 FF games that even have a job system.
>Turn Based
Again, see above.
I always find these "THIS ISNT WHAT FINAL FANTASY IS" posts hilarious because they're so obviously posted by someone that has maybe only played one or two Final Fantasy games. One of the main draws of the franchise as a whole was that it was always ever changing from game to game. Systems would always change and every release was drastically different than the one before it when comparing to other long running franchises at the time like Dragon Quest which were all roughly the same from game to game.
>changing the system from game to game
It stayed turn based all the way up to XI .
The main difference between any game from XIII or below to XV and XVI is that they were RPGs, as in, they had RPG elements.
It stayed 4 homies in a row until XI maybe, ATB being the same as Turn Based is still debatable.
It doesn’t matter whether you consider ATB not to be turn based or not as long as its a fricking RPG, which is the entire argument here. Like I said, I don’t give a frick about XV or XVI and its because they aren’t RPGs. Whether they do well or not is also not under my jurisdiction, I’d just be glad if they flopped so the company backpedals. Out of all the SE games being released this year and the next, the one I have zero interest on is the newest mainline title and the one I am most excited for is a fricking episodic remake of a previous entry, because its a fricking RPG, its an action game but it has RPG elements and tons of them and actually feels like an improved and evolved system from XIII except it actually works.
>im totally not biased
>every FF sucks except for FF7
okay, anon.
Literally not what I said. Make a better argument and actually read or don’t respond.
All three of the things you mentioned where used together at some point. If it didn’t have a job system then it had some other form of customization that was equally enjoyable.
I think its rather fricking obvious what I mean: an RPG not an action game. I don’t even care if its an ARPG instead so long as it has actual RPG elements.
I’ve enjoyed every single FF title up to XIII and I enjoyed XIV up until shadowbringers, so I am only speaking my mind when I say it doesn’t feel like final fantasy since this current game very much changed genre entirely, not that I wouldn’t say FFXV didn’t either but at least that game had party members
>b-but it sold less than XV!
Damn did XV really hurt the series reputation that much? Yikes.
These homies do not remember how VIII fricked over the franchise so much they had to revert back to classic tropes with IX.
And IX still sold like absolute dogshit
I win, Barry.
Based. That must be why he's seething and coping so hard lately.
He has like 5+ twitter accounts now so it's not a huge loss. He'll just pick another troony pfp and make another shitposting account just like he does here.
That moron is easy to find, he's one of 5 people who defend Flopspoken.
Better stay on your best behavior abo-kun.
>defending flopspoken
People like these exist?
He has another one with a Metroid pfp dream!
Just out of curiosity
What anons consider good and shit for famitsu numbers in context of this game.
OP here, sorry i didn't see the detail that it isn't sold but shipped + digital sales, i guess i got tricked like many (also i'm a massive phoneposting homosexual who forgot to crop). All memes aside 3 million is still pretty good, not a tortanic like some announced. Also like many others said, i'm sure it will sell better on the long term so bazztek shouldn't be celebrating too early.
Peace 🙂
>14 is one of the worst games ever made at launch and was literally unplayable until it was completely remade 3 years later
>15 was a broken mess at launch that wasn’t salvaged into a semi-complete product until 3 years of patches and DLC came out
Gosh I wonder why people would be hesitant to buy 16 at launch
>my jurisdiction