Battle Brothers

two handed slightly worse mansplitter, nice!

no mod

lmao what's the deal with these people fawning over meta strats if they aren't even going to play the game

kek, that's amazing

I tried putting some effort in this thread, cant really find that much fresh written guides so i put in one of the """"meta"""" builds

Checked but I think this format might draw the moderators' ire for being too similar to >>/vg/

kek

Oh did not know that, thanks

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Bros, for a Battleforged Zweihander would you select Steel Brow, Dodge, or Reach Advantage? This assumes a Sword or Hammer user with Colossus already.

Post bro, days and rest of the company, it depends

hey man sometimes the siege just don't end that's how it be

Hard to tell what determines it. I think it's the position of enemy party, but that wen I attack them though.

On the window where you chose if to attack you have a small rectangle that shows what environment fight will take place. I avoid anything with hills when fighting ranged units, even in the late game later armor repair costs are not worth the hassle. Game can absolutely screw or bless you with hills pic related. Bad day for mister necro.

>sea of tents
The only camp name/description you should care about is Rul'gazhix, the legendary, non-respawning goblin camp.
Nothing else means anything.

Play with autopause and speedup mod

This was literally me, now I am empty and hollow. Zanzibart, forgive me

>Ive never been in an abusive relationship but this must be it.
It feels great doesn't it?
Crazy pussy is worth it, anon.

then play it while you wait for the next sale achievementpiggy

It's me. Bought the game and creamapi worked just fine.
Any beginner tips welcome.

there used to be on nexus idk if it still works though

...until I saw this thing, noice

+(some shitty gobbo spear from a champ)

map sneed?????

Wow, that anon is so bas...
>unexplored map
cringe

Rerolling your map seed or looking up "good seeds" is an absolute homosexual practice, but it makes no sense that reasonably educated people who have been living in the area all their lives don't know that there's a huge city nearby. Completely breaks immersion.

if one spearwaller misses the other will get a shot at it yes
if someone breaks your no mastery shieldwall and he's the only one contesting your tile if you knock him back with a shield bash the wall will still work (you wall->wait->1 enemy succsesfuly enters the tile->you knock him back and it'll still work as if it was unbroken)

>stopping you from going dodgeforged underdog
No it is an ambition-only item.

>bro shoots enemy behind enemy
>enemy in front takes the shot
>enemy shoots bro behind bro
>enemy hits bro behind
WHY CAN THE ENEMY ARCHERS HIT MINE WHEN I CAN'T

Do you have Bullseye? Did the enemy in front have a shield, specifically a kite shield?

Start a new game on harder settings.

>final boss encounter
That's the monolith
>give me a dragon
Lindwurms are dragons.

BB is about the struggle to reach the top and then retire, not fight it out with a big bad.

Camp

Colossus first because reducing heavy injuries is paramount
Buy everyone a hood or a hat at the start because even that will prevent instant death to thug weapons in case of a headshot
Repair higher tiers of weapons before sale and try to sell in bigger towns where you have good relations and the settlment situation is not obliterating your sale price
The game is meant to be played ironman but its very debateable if its meant to be learned ironman
To add to what others have said, whilst good brothers are worth more than equipment if you have the people and dont have the gear you should buy it. Certain high tier twohanders in particular are very very rare and once the company is set up making money becomes easy
Play with a speedup mod and autopause when you get sick of how slow everything is, this particular one because the others are sometimes very buggy
https://www.nexusmods.com/battlebrothers/mods/542

I’ve been hoarding maces for this fight but I’m still afraid.

Just give your bros shields and keep them 1 tile away from each other so they only ever get 1 attack off at most. Possessing becomes irrelevant

i put my first line bros armed with sticks and shields and second armed with ranged weapons
keep them close, sticks can't do much and ranged weapons can't shoot when nearby enemy units - so charmed archers can't really do damage

i had to turn it off it got too repetitive

Never tried it to be honest but warfork/sepetum is very tricky because you basically have to have mastery for it to work whilst the two weapons are only used by most as a replacement for a pike in the first few days because you can find them cheap in many settlment markets
It can farm reach advantage stacks like crazy but once they break through youre obviously out of luck
If you really want to try it give them all quickhands and backup twohanded weapons when/if the enemy does break through

that was just a feint and you fell for it

You'll reinstall tomorrow

and can lead to alcoholism

I dont know why they dont just make the shops stock up more
Someone mentioned Pendor in this thread and thats warband a mod that has this same exact problem. In my playthrough of that i found 1 cavalry mace which carried me through the early and midgame and then not another one ever

Everything after the combat system was just an afterthought, the dev didn't care about anything besides
>what if, turn based mountain blade, but HARDCORE DEATHS FINAL DESTIONATION

devs get sick with developing it and just wanted to put a check on 'we promised this' list

Once you move off of beginner you have to know when to take fights. Sometimes you'll get a fight or a contract that surprises you so you just have to run.

Those fights are the absolute best to take and should never be skipped because they provide opportunity to easily knife down the raiders for huge equipment upgrades and exp.

The raiders have low resolve and will rout quickly when outnumbered. You need to focus down the raiders with 2h melee, ideally they should never get a strike off. Never let them end their turn 1 HEX away as that is their strike range. Then focus down raiders dual wielding their weapons. Child raiders should be left for last as they deal little damage; they don't have +25% damage from dual wielding and will often shieldwall. It's a good idea to match the shield raiders with your own shield brothers while the rest of the team destroys their rest of the team.

The most important thing is that by the end, you knife down a few raiders for their armor. For this you need knives in the pockets. Shield bros will be useful for this as they can pin down enemies to be daggered in the end of the game

Pic related, my positioning against 6 raiders about 7 days into this expert run, managed to knife down 2 by the end

Once you start fighting 40+ Nachos you can't stay still, you need to advance to stand on top of the corpses or else the Nachos just eat their fallen buddies to become much more powerful.

the counter to every beast that lacks reach attacks is spearwall ya dummy
try having more than one in your team sometimes

You are both right you bullheaded fricks

I like the event where you pick up a defeated Barbarian tbh

Axe guys on flanks if you want to spin them up, otherwise doesn't matter
Mix your tanks and dps in the frontline so you can reposition them
It really depends on what you fight
Try putting most of your dps on 1 flank tk try to do a side envelopment

What are 2nd and 1st

I use this build. Extreme high damage on javelins, can kill Chosen in just 2 hits. Take 2 of them on the team

You're an MK ultra victim

>Polearms are complete dogshit and the only selling point, 2 tiles reach, is made obsolete by other weapon's pole versions
They can hit targets from 3 tiles away with mastery which is something only the Jagged Pike can do other than them

>Hammers are bad at single target
Incorrect, hammers have very high damage while also staggering which is useful. See bellow for average hits to kill comparison between 2hs against a medium armored enemy

2H Flanged Mace - Cudgel:
HP = 130, Helmet = 145, Armor = 140
Death in 2.66655 hits on average.
First injury in 1 hits on average.

2H Flail - Pound:
HP = 130, Helmet = 145, Armor = 140
Death in 3.01035 hits on average.
First injury in 1.4872 hits on average.

2H Hammer - Smite:
HP = 130, Helmet = 145, Armor = 140
Death in 2.40825 hits on average.
First injury in 1 hits on average.

Greataxe - Split Man
HP = 130, Helmet = 145, Armor = 140
Death in 2.7602 hits on average.
First injury in 1.317 hits on average.

Greatsword - Overhead
HP = 130, Helmet = 145, Armor = 140
Death in 3.194 hits on average.
First injury in 2.42335 hits on average.

>bad at aoe
wrong

>and hilarously outclassed at destroying armor, their main selling point, by 2h axes
.
total hammer armor damage:
((60+90) / 2 +20 )*2 = 190
total axe armor damage:
((80+100) / 2 )*1.5*1.5= 202.5

So at most a marginal increase, but it's split between head and body which isn't ideal, the head damage will often get wasted

you have much more to learn

the main selling point of polearms is that they have 5AP attacks if you have the mastery

Magic is busted which is why only the enemies get to use it.

for fallen heroes probaly, though should you actually try dagger them down depends on what weapon they have, do you have someone with whip and mastery backstabber and is there a necromancer present
fh with shield and flail is pretty harmless but one with a greataxe who gets possessed is not to be messed with at any point in the game unless you stun or disarm
high penetration weapons can kill people without completely ruining their armor sometimes, flail headshots most notably can pull this off

Quintessential frontliner build

it works though if youre going nimble you could drop adrenaline-recover for dodge relentless and be way better off. level initiative a bit when it highrolls and wear hyena pelt and you'll be faster than most enemies then

have less men or more men with the pacifist perk
party scaling is different and matters more than vanilla especially on harder difficulties

that's okay, when they die you can get new bros 🙂

different starts too i think

>Beasts and Exploration
Add some enemies that you will rarely fight and don't give much meaningful loot anyway. Armor attachment is cool for fashion, gives somewhat significant advantages as well. Adds the strongest weapon type to the game, the Two Handed Mace, and adds the strongest reach weapon, the Polehammer. Somewhat skippable

>Warriors of the North
Adds the Barbarians who are fun and cool to fight, they provide a type of battle that you wouldn't get otherwise and are a big chunk of content by themselves. Adds Champions to the game which give you the strongest weapons in the game (buffed versions of normal weapons). Adds the strongest ranged weapons in the game (upgraded throwing weapons). Best DLC out of the three

>Blazing Deserts
It's the worst DLC out of the three. Adds brown people to a game that only had white people. Serpents and ifrits are the most annoying fights in the game. Hyenas are reskinned Direwolves and Nomads are reskinned Brigands, but tougher. Adds arena battles which are cool and provide content. Retinue mechanic is cute. It also adds a challenging Legendary Location final battle to do when you are near the end of the game. Overall, not very good.

Arguably since you'll need them for the overhaul that everyone seems to love. The only one that I'd consider a 'must have' would be warriors of the north because it adds origins and those are massive for replayability. They're all pretty damn good/worthwhile though. The crafting/attachments from beasts and exploration are fun and give you additional options to consider when building a bro. Blazing deserts has very strong theming, everyone loves an arena. They all sort of intermingle with each other to entice you to get them all though with new origins/crafting/etc

Funny enough, basically everyone fricking hates the new enemies added by the DLC's. Chosen are a nightmare for being orc warriors you can't morale break, people outright refuse to engage with hexen, alps, schrats, etc and absolutely seethe about southern armies, nomads and snakes.

>The only one that I'd consider a 'must have' would be warriors of the north because it adds origins and those are massive for replayability.
The origins aren't meaningful for me. I always just play the basic because most of the others are just worse than the basic and don't change much anyway

>He hasn't taken the fearsome pill yet

>no brawny
>no battleforged
>student AND gifted
>adrenaline
this was made by a stinking barbarian

this is a real issue I solved by not picking perks until lvl 11
bonus effect: more difficult game
you can also get a mod to highlight choices you are considering in different colors to keep track and pick later when you get famed items
I also like to play with a mod that spawns hard to get items like kraken tenties for a high sum of money in southern cities so I can make oblivion potion more easier and thus aleviate some of the perk-picking-as-you-go anxiety

Basically 6-8 out of my starting twelve are built as nimble quickhands all-rounders who I do not expect to survive end-game, but they're useful as they get phased out for more specialized fatigue neutrals, dervish assassins, duelists, etc. If I lose a few of these, it doesn't matter to me that much, because they aren't terribly hard to replace, but still a loss. The other 6-8 are either bros who have good potential as an end-game bro, or completely useless foddertanks who take nine lives, shields, colossus, and then sit in the most dangerous spots.

By the time you are mid-game, you should be able to stomp on brigand raider parties effectively and without too much danger of losing important bros. Like this, you won't enter a death spiral, because even if you chop off three members of your team, you should still be strong enough to bulldoze raiders, who I find are generally the most profitable targets around mid-game. That is how every campaign goes for me that gets off the ground. If you are barely breaking even it could be for a ton of reasons; daily wage too high for bros who aren't good enough, taking bad fights and/or contracts that your party can't handle, taking fights poorly whereas you suffer too many hits that aren't necessary. It's never impossible to rebuild because contracts scale to your party

Magic damage dealers were somewhat less rare, it was mostly taken out because legends devs are always infested with autists all trying to preserve their own individual visions of the game, i.e. no magic,

are tier 1 nachzehrers supposed to be of the size of a goblin?

the official comic says tier 1 is about half the size of a man, so yeah, goblin size is close.
tier 3 are pretty yuge though.

Yeah, and you were cheating as well

Learn from your mistakes.

https://battlebrothers.fandom.com/wiki/Named_and_Legendary_Items#Locations
The higher the named item chance the tougher the camp is

They're all random and scale with your party strenght on spawn.

>They're all random and scale with your party strenght on spawn.
Incorrect. Contracts scale with party strength, campsites scale with time and not with party strength.

Using the Fangshire is cheating and frowned upon in this general

The real money making in this game is in bursting camps not contracts, after early game you should stop wasting your time with 1 or 2 skull contracts

The guy in heavy armor should be double gripping his weapon

If you have a Bro with the Monk Background he can talk the pimp into letting go of his ways and try another vocation, at which point the reformed pimp will ask to join the company.

Resolve from trophies might be more useful. Armoured dogs aren't that cheap and northern warhounds are better fighters anyway. Spending that money (almost four thousand crowns to equip full company) could afford you two or three brothers from upper mid tier backgrounds, and high tier weapons and armour, which could help you get ahead. Even if your current company is smaller, it's still significant expense. Investing in mail instead might be smarter way of staying alive. Still, the dogs ARE useful against lightly armoured enemies and you can use them to get free surround bonus, increasing your brothers' hit chance. Dogs are good, they just can't compare to fresh brigand raider.

yes for weapons with good cost/durability ratio
t1 weapons almost always repairs for a loss
t2 weapons usually repair for some profit
two handers are always worth repairing

I would take the knight. You can always loot weapons.

serves you right for choosing northern kafirs

what did you learn? i just avoid them entirely, the drops are never worth the injuries/deaths

>masochist indulges in suffering for pleasure
>tries to rationalize it but still learns the wrong lesson from it
AHAHAAHHAHA
Just kidding, have fun, anon.

I always pictured them like fat chimpanzees/gorillas.

>Bannerlord

Because you're fighting day 1 enemies with it.
3H flail has the lowest minimum damage of all weapons AKA poor average damage.
Triple attack rolls isn't just x3 chances to hit, its also x3 -10% when hitting armor.
Head-attack skill does 1/3 damage per hit instead of 1/2 damage of regular attack, making it particularly poor at breaking down helmets by itself.

Try using weapons on hard enemies instead of cloth-wearing rabble if you really want to see their strenghts and weaknesses. You didn't even mention the part where it ignores shield cover.

dogs are moronic, they choose a random target when you unleash them
the only way to force them to do anything is unleash them inside a zone of control
you can unleash a dog 2 tiles away from an enemy so it can walk 1 tile and still attack twice, and the fricker might decide to just spend all AP walking to a different enemy, sometimes for multiple turns while it circles around an enemy formation to reach one in the back

If you look through the thread there are a few low fat builds, for example this here is an example of a low fat build, allthough it seems to be the fatn dodgeforged meme build

...until I saw this thing, noice

+(some shitty gobbo spear from a champ)

>I guess I beat the game
Not at all, the crises are easy to defeat and can even be completely ignored without permanent destruction
in order to ACTUALLY beat the game you need to defeat:

Black Monolith
Sunken Library
Kraken
Goblin City

>t. needs 10 turns to kill an orc warrior

No dude, you just need to figure out the OP legends combos.
Nimble + Freedom of Movement + high INI and/or Alert/Perfect Fit/Relentless = +90% HP damage reduction
Lithe + Battleforged + additional fur padding = -60-50% armor damage reduction AND -45% HP damage reduction
Debilitating Attack + Tackle = Enemy takes +43% damage, deals -25% damage, has -50% mdef and -70% ini. These stack with dazed, staggered, baffled, overwhelmed etc
Perfect Focus + Dagger Mastery = 1 ap stabs, tons of options to make that deal lots of damage and/or debuffs, and to keep it from requiring you to Recover every other turn. Bonus points if you put it on a Lone Wolf/Berserker/Battle Flow character with Sprint so they can dash 4 tiles for 2 ap before stabbing the shit out of something.
Inspire or Berserker + Quick Step = 2hander with 6ap attack can move one tile and attack twice

And thats just scraping the surface, there. Legends' balance is bonkers.

>Legends
The trick is that legends trivialises all overworld aspects so long as you're camping regularly.
Camping essentially gives you free food, ammo, and medicine. Tools are also much easier to come by so long as you take out the occasional noble army/bandit camp/orc warrior group so you can salvage all their shit.

Any other good combos?
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I would need a perk to keep shieldbros from getting tossed around? What is it called...

>Any other good combos?
not necessarily combos, but just about any bro is improved by taking perfect focus. Monks become really fricking good support characters since they get prayers that heal or buff mdef that scale based on resolve, since resolve can easily end up at like ~200, this means they vastly increase the survivability of nimble/freedom of movement characters.
Because legends gives you more perks than basegame, it's a lot easier to stack armor types, i.e. medium armor bros can fairly easily double up on battleforged or nimble. Most debuffs are fairly underwhelming, but you can make duelist bros with ambidextrous, gives you some nice versatility in tackling enemies.
avoid cloth armor perks though, they're generally early game noob traps.

a star is worth roughly 5 points at level 11, so this guy has the equivalent of 44 ranged with no stars, which is pretty bad, do not use him as a ranged bro. His attack is also ass. On the other hand his defense, fat and hp is pretty good, so i'd use him as a tank. Make sure to take high ish resolve rolls to get him to 50 or so resolve. I'd build him as a nimble tank like this: every level take def, and highest 2 rolls between hp fat and resolve.

Try scouting for poachers and hunters if you want an archer or farmers and brawlers if you want melees. You generally want 50+ base stat archers with a star(s) on ranged and 55+ base stat melees with stars on attack and melee defense. If you have unwanted characters, you can just turn them into meat shields/utility characters with stuff like fast adaptation, gifted, backstabber and shield expert for example

I need all of these wojak or pepe or apu edits of Battle Bros...

The game literally tells you that not every fight is winnable and that retreating is something you can and should do.

Is skill issue. Give me the save file and i defeat this easily

>bannerman is already wavering
my dude you really need to take that thing off him

Every single reply to this post has been shit. I remember a long time ago when I lost a high level party to big nachos and wondered what the frick you were supposed to do too. The only real answer is to have a line heavy enough that they basically don't give a frick about basic nachos, and then use nets to keep the big ones tied down, focus fire on them with throwers, smash them up until there aren't enough fat fricks to eat half your team

Mostly the answer is pick fearsome. There's other ways you can double down on it but that perk does the heavy lifting

>I don't need another fight whenever I go from place to place, unless I'm being paid for it.
That's where you are wrong, you NEED roaming parties because they provide free gold and experience, if you don't take them you're making future fights literally strictly harder for yourself so you should strive to take every roaming party and camps that you can.

depends on yo map seed

Drunkard is nice until they accidentally lose expensive shit in your inventory

Yeah, have the 18 bros mod so you can somewhat level the playing field against the "conscript" armies with nimble backed by artillery. Either that or get real sweaty with your fart neutral builds. Southern armies are cancer, is what I'm saying.

>6 bandit raiders or 7 auxiliaries
Its the weakest possible enemy squad that the game is programmed to put you against

Get to 12 men asap, even if they have nothing, enemies will scale a bit as well but not as much, itll be way easier especially if you use a bait beggar to split up their forces

Yeah but why raiders and not thugs that early in the game? And why does the game label this shit 1 skull?

What's your battle difficulty

click the perks tab and choose something anon

100% map seed issue on all accounts.

>made out almost entirely out of mountain, forest, swamp, leading to the most cancerous battles where 90% of the fight is trying to get out of whatever shit you were put in the first place
>if the constant barbarian ambushes isn't bad enough, the place is also riddled with goblins
i like the way this sucks

Generally, nimbleforged > forged > nimble.
But it depends on a lot of factors (traits/base stats/stars/levelup rng) and too many nimbleforged/forged bros is expensive to maintain while nimble is cheap & efficient.
Regarding duelists specifically, forged is particularly good because they can't use shields, but unless you have fat neutral duelists they're better off being pure nimble so they don't get tired before a fight ends.

Agreed, i wish the game had more elite/champ types to make battles harder instead of constantly pitting you against more and more enemies all the time. Endgame is really dull. I've stopped engaging the noble war crisis entirely because having ally reinforcements makes a single battle exhausting.

That's terrible luck, you should have at least gotten the weapon back, the armor would have been destroyed.

alright, about to start a new game after just over a year since my last run. last game I played was the first time I really ever got a solid foothold, made it to about mid game and then got bored. going to hit the high seas, so i'll have all dlc. can anyone link/give me advice on good weapon meta for early and mid game? If I remember correctly, last time I played I had bows/crossbows in the backline w/ spears, spears/shields on front flanks, swords/shields on inner sides, and then two handed axe dude in the middle. this very well be a dogshit strat and I welcome any derision because 1.) Im a fricking moron when it comes to strategy games and 2.) I want to get better.

Early-mid is dominated by high accuracy weapons because your bros can't hit for shit. Spears, warforks, goedendags, swords, and pikes. Shieldwall is your friend so I wouldn't put an axebro in the middle, he'd be on the flanks somewhere.

Get the blacksmith in your retinue. Kill the meat, save the metal.