>Be game dev
>Use a bit of AI to help make the development process easier
>Get banned from Steam
Evil fricking company.
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>Be game dev. >Use a bit of AI to help make the development process easier. >Get banned from Steam
GOOD MORNING SIRS
AI GOOD YES DO THE NEEDFUL AND GENERETE VAGENE AND BOB IN AI PLESE SIRS
ALSO STEME BAD EPIC GEME STORE GOOD
>oh noo AI baaaaad
These morons will bring us back to the stone age I swear.
The cognitive dissonance and lack of self-awareness from luddites is absolutely amazing.
What a clown world.
Frick Steam and their monopoly.
>if i obscure my fear of the future under a thick veneer of racism, people will agree with me
kys
yeah keep chimping out and ignore the problems and call people names instead that'll show them how rational and sensible AI and AI-gays are, lel.
>a bloo bloo
You blunders were never ever going to listen anyway. Frick off.
You are still the incel chud here, however.
>tumblr image
>reddit post
very based king
DEATH TO ALL LUDDITES
So when are you going to have a nice day? Writing text into a text-field or clicking a few boxes and click "generate" doesn't make you tech-literate. homosexuals like you can't even assemble a PC or troubleshoot problems in Windows but you can't stop spouting words you learned an hour ago.
You asked for it.
Time to die.
I will not waste words on you, I will immediately resort to violence
Based. Luddite chudism is a massive psyop and it worked.
>These morons will bring us back to the stone age I swear.
Good.
Industrial society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
(he said on a laptop computer connecting to the internet to a videogame digital message board)
AI is not real. It is feed by the work of other people that is not been even credited. Using AI for commercial propouses is literally stealing.
This was an L take
It's that AI is a mathematical function that can churn out a gorillion outputs that are optimized to be mostly similar. That will be feed back into information spaces like rule 34 sites and clog them up with shit trash
that's why I always exclude AI slop from my porn searches. Hope they fricking ban that shit.
Cry more homosexual
you're a fricking homosexual
>luddites
>well be in the stone age because people aren't selling their AI prompts
hello sur
>back to the stone age
>not moving "forward" is the exact same as regressing back to the starting line
have a nice day
Wtf is a Luddite
a bunch of terrorists that fear technology and industrialization because they don't want others to be on the same level of tech progress as them.
i say KILL THEM ALL.
Indian sweatshop content farms will be driven out of business though.
How did AI become associated with indians when all the development is happening in either US or China.
Because Ganker is moronic? One idiot says something, then a bunch of people repeat it verbatim for the yous. That's the default answer to everything here
They spam chatgpt generated responses wherever they can in tech support forums. I don't know why Indians do this but it's always them.
One anon is eternally ass blasted at this man for invalidating all of his hard work trying to draw pretty pictures. So he spammed pajeet until like minded morons started spamming alongside him.
It's sadly mostly one person spamming it. I wish I was joking.
fpbp
also hilarious how this never fails to make pajeets absolutely fume
He fricked up by trying to include it "officially". Should have posted it as a third party mod somewhere else.
>cozy building and simulation game
And nothing of value was lost
Go back to r*ddit.
Wait what? That's a 3.5 years of work?
Probably a rookie and gamedev isn't that easy
If you're rookie you don't gamble all of your savings on your first fricking game
>graphics don't matter, only gameplay
(granted, the gameplay probably sucks)
graphics have nothing to do with art direction you moron with shit for brains
20 year old games look still great while brand new games with GREAT GRAFIX LOOK SHIT
That's the main menu, the work probably went into making actual gameplay (which you can't see by looking at the main menu)
Indie dev artlets often make games that look like this with low-poly asset packs
>3.5 years
>spent my savings
>poured my heart and soul into it
I mean there's been projects with 9 years of work...
>3.5 years
>cannot even make a decent looking game
did he waste 75 percent of that time
because this does not look like something people spent years of their life making
this looks like something someone made in a month and half at best
like going to random youtube videos of devs making something in a week I seen better art on
>d*scord option in main menu
good riddance
Fricking hate it. Not even so much for having a discord (although I dislike that too) but for putting it front and center like that and ruining the aesthetic of the menu in the process.
>three and a half years
I swear reading the way AI homosexuals post is just deja-vu to all the NFT shills from all the way back
Same posting style, same kinda arguments, same kind of obnoxiousness and disingenous posting
>needs 3 and a half years and AI to make this kinda shit
Conflating the NFTs to AI is mindless beyond measure.
Dumbass fricking Black folk. You AI pajeets literally say the same shit and use the same arguments as the gays who shilled NFT's all these years ago (frick, has it been years?)
>it's gonna change everything bro!
>its gonna benefit us all!
>its the future bro, you just don't get it!
>its gonna go nuts bro, two more weeks!
>you're just too dumb to get it bro!
>you're just a luddite, you gonna get left behind!
Genuine deja vu. Not just that, but some of you actually exposed yourself as NFT gays when it came up before
But NFTs were a scam and AI has literally saved and improved lives and stolen thousands of jobs with proven promises to change most industries. No one cares about NFTs and even talking about them like you do is insanely stupid.
Do you guys just get off on the attention from acting stupid or are you actually just braindead?
>AI has literally saved and improved lives and stolen thousands of jobs with proven promises to change most industries
you genuinely can't help yourself can you
it's fricking hilarious and fricking sad
Dude stop being moronic, who does it benefit?
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/3/ibm-to-freeze-hiring-as-ceo-expects-ai-to-replace-7800-jobs
>doesn't even read his own articles
sasuga
>no argument to functionality at all, just to attitude
im pretty sure if the car was invented tomorrow you would think it's a scam too
>I lost money with crypto and dont want to lose AI stock
AI shills are hilarious. Its even the same /misc/ baits NFTs scammers used before they realized nobody was buying their crap.
And now they are desperate again
>ai stock
where did this braindead idea of AI being in the same world as NFTs even come from, it feels like either astroturf or just brainrot losers that think "new technology? You mean like NFTs?!"
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I just don't see how people can game ugly games like this. I always wanted to make 3D vidya. So you know what I did? I've spent 5 years just learning 2D and 3D art specifically for my game so it wouldn't look like fricking ass. Yet some people it just seems they wake up one day and say "okay its time to make a video game with zero skills" then instantly start making it. Programming is easy as shit, video games are pretty much solved when it comes to programming, so the thing that actually requires skills to make a game now is art and if you don't know how to create good art either learn or find something else to do. I cannot stand half-assed developers.
But of course now this AI controversy is going to make this game sell.
>Edit: Thank you to all the constructive comments.
This might be the feature I hate most about this shitty website.
Holy shit you can edit posts here?
EDIT: Wow holy shit, this is like when I discovered posting your roblox password gets filtered like ***********
analsniffer1488
did it work
edit : help my robux
That's not even a bad feature. There are so many times I made a typo posting here that I wish I could fix.
game's still up
it's complete reddit homosexualry oOoo talk to your villagers and build houses
frick off
>AI is in a weird, undefined, legally grey area
>Valve says they dont want AI
>includes AI
>WTF FRICK VALVE!
He's a dumb-ass and a bad businessman who tries to cover that fact up and beg for sympathy by playing the victim.
AI is a tool just like a calculator or the lasso tool on photoshop. Dont get what all the hubub is about. This indie dev spent their savings on this project, does it look like they can afford a programmer?
Where in their ToS does it say that?
If they spent their life savings why don't they have a programmer
Are you assuming their life savings was that much?
>oy vey this heckin wholesome 100 devereeno spend his savings on something that means he should be able to break the rules
Nice "argument" moron.
>This indie dev spent their savings on this project
And math teachers sometimes told you not to use calculators on the test. Steam says no AI, he had Ai, it got rejected. They should have talked to him more about it after asking for more detail and just say "snip that out while we temporary delist it, then you're good" though.
says they dont want AI
Yeah but they didn't say this.
Jews love AI, a lot of top AI devs are israeli owned and even operated(as in they're the scientists). Even some Hollywood related businesses have israelites at the head and they want to prompt entire movies and what not.
Jews obviously don't want free AI for everyone. That's what they hate.
people should start suing them for this shit. they have a monopoly and just randomly ruin peoples businesses with no recourse.
>and just randomly ruin peoples businesses with no recourse.
can you name an online retailer that's fairer than Steam?
?? Epic games store and gog both exist. They in no way have a monopoly.
Now my power company that decides to randomly tack on 30 dollars every bill for delivery fees' with no other options has a monopoly.
thats a government enforced monopoly, totally different case. steam has a market share monopoly that can be argued in court.
>that can be argued in court
No it can't. Steam do nothing to prevent other stores from being good, it's other stores decision to be shit. People just pick better option, it's not illegal
The only thing Steam has a monopoly on is being an actually competent app. They have no responsibilities for other storefronts being shit and everyone only using theirs.
What the hell do you think can be argued in court? That Steam has to link to other store pages because their market share is too big?
not the way it works. steam has a greater responsibility not to destroy businesses for arbitrary reasons because of the fact that they have a market share monopoly. if they dont give proper recourse, they can and should be sued. and this should have been happening to all social media companies too. your fanboy attachment to the steam client has nothing to do with it.
>fanboy
I'm just using the best option. It's not my fault other clients suck balls. Nor it's steam's fault.
They literally do not.
They are not destroying any businesses, there are more than dozens of game store fronts out there other than steam, including GoG, Epic, Origin, Blizz' and even more less well-known ones. This isnt to mention games with their own launchers like Larian's, ff14's, Warthunder, etc.
It's not Steam's responsibility to babysit anyone. Their biggest responsibility to to their customers and to their service, and they are doing okay in that front.
How does Gabe's limp dick feel?
when your only argument is ad hominem, then maybe its better to stop
Steam literally does nothing with it's competitors.
Exactly. They should help their competitors, or it's a monopoly
In case it wasn't sarcasm.
If Steam doesn't sabotage the competition then the competition only has to git gud in order to get a share in tge market. GoG does alright because of no DRM and downloadable installs.
this literally has nothing to do with their competitors. are you incapable of reading or is gabes dick blocking your vision? its about businesses operating with their services not having recourse when their business is damaged by valve employees.
Someone call him and have him create some models to show if it's a monopoly or not
Steam and power companies are both natural monopolies. Consumers prefer having a single storefront they can access their entire library from.
>argued in court
You mean like what Epic failed to do against apple?
>steam has a market share monopoly that can be argued in court
You should share your expertise with the multiple multibillion-dollar companies that keep suing Valve and having their cases thrown out. Where can they contact you to replace their legal teams that have been practicing business cases for 40+ years? You clearly have the knowhow to supplant the entire legal system - I can tell just by reading your 3-sentence post that details your opinion.
>I randomly received an email
Except that email read specifically sent to him because of the ongoing review, so it wasn't "random" at all, was it?
I don't think I need to hear anything more. Valve did the right thing.
I don't see what's the big deal. Valve says they won't publish their steamdb update because it contains AI shit. So remove it and resubmit. They always give you the benefit of the doubt to resubmit unless it's repeated abuse.
Progress is good, AI is progress
Oh no we're democratizing access to the arts, oh no we're automating difficult things, oh no we can make advances in robotics/medicine/research, oh no personal tutors for everyone, oh no its never been easier to learn something new, oh no its easy to develop new skills, oh no we can analyze information beyond the capabilities of the human brain, oh no maybe we'll all be able to drink mimosas while relaxing on a beach because society is maintained by AI, oh no the world is going to get better why isn't everyone against it CHANGE IS SCARY REEEEEEEEEEEE
anyway kys
good morning sir
Shalom
>democratizing access to the arts
pencils cost almost fricking nothing you just have to actually practise
>pencils
>pretending people actually go out of their way to make actual art in games
not only did you make me sad you also made me laugh
video games are a dead medium
>AI is progress
lol
lmao
It's leeching on other's work, plain and simple. Your AI shit wouldn't exist if there was no data to train them on. If anything, it is anti-progress.
And the meme is already dying anyway.
>printing press is progress
lol
lmao
it's leeching on the scribe's work, plain and simple. your papers wouldn't exist if there was no writing to base it on. if anything, it is anti-progress. and the meme is already dying anyways.
>copying a pre-existing work vs mushing pre-existing works together and calling it something new
Show hands
You mean like every piece of media ever created? Transformative work.
Post those ugly brown paws.
Show me a single unique work of art an AI created, brown baby boy
Anything you generate with AI is unique in its own right, regardless of its quality. Just like how you might not like Undertale but it wears its very blatant inspiration on its sleeve and people eat that up for being a unique sum of its parts.
>Undertale is just like AI art
You cannot make this shit up, AItards unironically believe this
it may as well be
The only people that compare inspiration to AI and use it as an excuse have never created a single thing in their lives.
both cryptobro techfad garbage and blatantly plagiarised indie slop are shit lol, AA died for these
Imagine being this moronic, hot damn.
No, pAIjeet, "AI" is not a printing press. It's an algorithm to shit out bootleg garbage based on other's actual work. It wouldn't exist if there was no data to train it on.
You're arguing with contrarians that want (you)s, don't bother
>Oh no we're democratizing access to the arts
churning out infinite bayesian slop, catering to the market trends of the terminally online by stealing content from artists to create statistical frankensteins is not democracy or whatever dumb buzzword was put into your head.
Also frick democracy.
the only valid criticism of AI is -> <-
everything else is gay pro-regulatory shilling by the NSA
>Progress is good
already false.
Progress is the only reason for humanity to exist.
>democratizing access to the arts
ai art has the same amount of creative input as looking up pictures on google images.
You're not a creator and it's pathetic you want everyone to see you as one.
>>same amount of creative input as looking up pictures
>most devs in the 90s and 00s used stock texture libraries and audio samples
Damn I guess they were always fraud shit incompetent uncreative dogshit and we were just too stupid to know any better
Don't bother these le soul seoulless tards basically think anything that isn't hand drawn from scratch on oil from your imagination and programmed using your own hand-made compiler is le soulless and shows no passion and is le taking a shortcut.
It's all pretentious shit
there's a huge difference between stock images being used as textures and google stealing images and making random blurs of shit using a search engine
Games like SM64 literally used random blurry stock images for textures that wouldn't have fit at higher res.
yeah because that what they had to work with
stop being obtuse
>it's okay when Nintendo does it
Is this guy for real?
Quick!
What model is this?
deliberate on civitai
ty.
catbox?
>rocks are blurry straw
lateral thinking with withered technology
Stock images and sounds are literally created to be stock. AI literally steals other's people work and present it like something original. You don't care, that's OK, but I am not surprise that Valve does.
real question, why isn't there an AI for devs trained on stock images so we can do away with the legality issues?
Because the real issue is nobody actually cares about the legality they just want to prop the argument up that anyone using any shortcut is a talentless hack and you need to slave away for years on a 6/10 that could have been finished in 10 months. It's not like these legal issues will stop every big company from flooding the market with slop.
That would have cost money.
Then why are you seething so much?
AI is as much of a scam as NFTs. Only people who does not understand how it works would call it "progress".
He is right.
>download "ai"
>type in "starry night but water color"
>prints out literally starry night but water color
>claim this as my own and call myself an artist
>no guys you dont get it, its not copying or anything its doing exactly what humans do, its called inspiration.
actual mental moronation.
>>buy pencil
>>draw starry night and pour water on it
this as my own and call myself an artist
>>no guys you dont get it, I didn't copy anything, its called inspiration.
actual mental moronation.
>and pour water on it
moron
>AI poster literally thinks water color means watering your paint like a plant
Expected
It was a joke. I really enjoy seeing you take them seriously though, you and that other anon are literally seething.
>I was just pretending
>I-I was just pretending, you're the stupid one not me
lmao
Nobody does that and people like you hound actual artists because you're paranoid of AI.
i cant be paranoid about something that doesnt exist.
>democratizing access to the arts
Immediately stopped reading. If you were a lazy moron who didn't wanna bother practicing with pen and paper pre-ai, pressing some buttons isn't gonna make you Picasso.
he means now you don't need artists to make your smut
>Look we're just stealing all of your art so morons and megacorps can profit from it
>No the entire classical history of art and open rights works weren't good enough
>Uh no that doesn't mean your work has more value
>Don't be a luddite
>kys
most sane AI supporter probably some coomlord who spent the last few months generating porn slop
>Progress
I love billionares spying on us, killing us, and taking all our money
I rather have AI rule the world than Black folk and chinks.
>democratizing
Rebranding communism as democracy is a big LOL fro me
>Oh no we're democratizing access to the arts, oh no we're automating difficult things, oh no we can make advances in robotics/medicine/research, oh no personal tutors for everyone, oh no its never been easier to learn something new, oh no its easy to develop new skills
Literally all of this has been possible without AI?
Also
>democratizing access to the arts
What the frick does that mean? For decades all you needed to do was pick up a pen and paper and find some "drawing for beginers" tutorial or guidebook and anyone can share their art for the world to see
>Literally all of this has been possible without AI?
Yeah, but that is work, and work sometimes doesn't pay off.
Most people don't want to pick up a pencil or can't make anything good with them. AI is democratizing art in the that it is letting people make what they want without having to use clunky tools.
Like how cars and planes democratized travel, how modern medicine democratized longer life spans, and how phones democratized the internet and communication. AI democratizes art by letting us create sexy anime girls or whatever you're into.
>AI shart spammer literally never touched a pencil
>clunky tool
>he literally cannot even write without a keyboard
AIgays are truly the lowest scum
Post your work.
Post yours first.
Hint: AI shit is not yours.
have a nice day Black person
Keep crying.
>it's not real even though I'm looking at it
>you didn't make it even though you did
Mental moronation in full view
Yea, you didn't make it. AI shart is not art. You will never be an artist.
Cope in any way you want.
AI filter stays on
its good enough.
What an embarrassing post.
>hentai artists like Zankuro training on their own art so they can speed up their workflow
still art to me, gay
You're just going to seethe more and more as people incorporate it into their workflow.
>more and more as people incorporate it into their workflow.
Or abandon it all together because AI shart literally never passes. We all know it.
Failed morons who fell for the scam saw massive drops in view in pixiv and got their galleries tagged to AI.
LMAO at your "workflow" "tool"
>create propaganda campaign against evil scary new tech
>amazed that those people don't support anything associated with AI because they're moronic
It's ok, you'll still be forced to eat it by literally every corporation ever. Open wide for the AIrplane!
Ooooops, turns out every corporation is banning it. INCLUDING VALVE
AISHILL IN FRICKING SHAMBLES HAHAHAHAHAHA
LETS HOPE YOU DIDNT INVESTED ON CLOSEDAI
This is literally fake news coming from reddit trannies. When will you autists learn to check sources?
Sucks that every big media giant is going to be immortalizing actors with AI and cutting costs regardless of what they tell you 🙂
You didn't make it, you did the equivalent of a google images search.
Shut up you Stupid Black person
>bad anatomy
>copy paste tranime AI alop
idiot
Humans have been drawing for tens of thousands of years. If you can't bother to practice, your attention span has been fried and you should probably just have a nice day.
And they're still drawing. But today we mostly use computers instead of fingers.
This makes you mad because you wasted time learning a skill that's becoming useless.
>But today we mostly use computers instead of fingers
Yeah, you can draw on computers. Congrats on figuring that out, moron.
>This makes you mad because you wasted time learning a skill that's becoming useless
I don't even draw, I just think it's moronic to say you made an image you basically google searched. If you order a pizza and ask them for specific toppings, do you tell people you made the pizza?
>it's moronic to say you made an image you basically google searched.
It's moronic to conflate using AI to using google. It's as simple as that, but you sir are too moronic to understand that.
Need a tissue?
You didn't answer my question. If you order a pizza and ask them for specific toppings, do you tell people you made the pizza?
>Like how cars and planes democratized travel
is it still bait if it's sincere? lmao
Refute it. People travel more than they ever have today thanks to technology and it's accessible to almost everyone. That's what democratization means.
>me good vs you bad
>you bad vs me god
sad honestly.
Shut the frick up you fricking moron. Cars didn't democratize movement, humans did. We've been walking on two fricking legs since before the dinosaurs went extinct, you fricking c**t. And if you think cars made it easier for us to move around, then you're a fricking idiot. Do you know how much goddamn gasoline it takes to power a car? It's like 3 gallons per mile or some shit. That's more than enough to make a fricking hippie choke on his own smugness. And don't even get me started on the environmental impact of driving a car. It's like burning a fricking rainforest every time you hit the road. So go ahead and keep worshiping your precious automobile, you little b***h. But just remember, you're not doing anything special by driving one. You're just another butthole polluting the planet and wasting resources. Now go frick yourself with a cactus.
This. Most people barely leave their agglomeration while traveling long distance was not at all uncommon even in prehistoric times.
>It's like 3 gallons per mile or some shit
not sure if serious...
This has to be AI generated.
Everyone wants a future where robots help us with whatever we want them to help us with. Whether that's work or art should only matter to the person.
>calls a pencil a "clunky tool"
I bet you have to look at your keyboard and type one letter at a time too homosexual
The only problem I have with Ai shit is it's need to be fueled by human artistic works to function only to make a mockery product that not only shitting on what made them be but also devalue it, turning it into just for mindless consumption and profit. It's absolutely dehumanizing
We burn our atmosphere so that we can travel faster
We burn forest and animal so we can eat, shit and breed
Ok but who cares about those shit, they are not human.
I hope we can get to the day where we are allowed to clone human for our pleasue because everything about science and progress is good.
>it's need to be fueled by human artistic works to function
This affects human work as well. The only problem you have is that you are moronic.
>turning it into just for mindless consumption and profit. It's absolutely dehumanizing
Artists already did this charging for their art. Being greedy isn't being human so stop talking about the price of art lowering dehumanizing us, that makes literally no sense at all.
>This affects human work as well
Shit I guess the Epic of gilgamesh doesn't exist.
It's all based on ideas they got from outside of ourselves.
You don't understand what iteration means lol.
>It's all based on ideas they got from outside of ourselves.
OK so it's literally already ahead of AI, since AI can only use ideas that are directly fed to it, and can't use anything external at all.
Also human beings can understand simple prompts, AI cannot.
>since AI can only use ideas that are directly fed to it,
Right.... Ideas it got from outside of itself. From us, who got ideas from outside of ourselves. Are you brain dead?
The fact you presented isn't relevant. There are objectively infinite variables even if there is a limit to a particular prompt's context. You are literally fricking moronic for not understanding this while acting smart.
>Right.... Ideas it got from outside of itself.
No, it didn't "get" the ideas. AI cannot come up with ideas based on stimuli, it can only recreate things that were directly fed into it. That's why it can't handle simple prompts that even a moron could and needs to be told things like "draw <specific character> in <specific artist's style>" so it can just copypaste.
>It's all based on ideas they got from outside of ourselves.
That wasn't the initial claim.
You don't understand how iteration isn't relevant to what was stated, a mere inarguable fact. Again--you should learn the basics.
>This affects human work as well.
If all human art is based on other pieces of human art, how was the first piece of art created?
>Artists already did this charging for their art.
Nooooo it doesn't matter that I want to consoom this thing you spent hundreds of hours if not more making, you deserve to be homeless and not allowed to live as a member of society.
Maybe this is just some morons political view taking over his brain but are aigays really this soulless and antihuman?
>>I hope we can get to the day where we are allowed to clone human for our pleasure
Sounds like a 10/10 plan, no more flirting, no more courting, skip directly to marriage and procreation, dealing with other people is tiresome, and it won't have the pesky problems like, bleeding and shitty personalty, we could improve them as well, make them permanently loyal, relaxed, calm, custom body attributes.
AI cant into fine details.
AI is good enough if all you want is coom pinups. But anything more complicated than that is not possible
>AI isn't good enough for X
Why do people still say this?
Time and time again, like they are incapable of understanding the idea that its capabilities are growing. Right now, it's just for coom pinups. 6 months ago it wasn't even good for that. In a decade, in two decades, in a century, it'll be able to do all of that shit and you are moronic if you think otherwise.
If you say so.
Stability didn't make Stable Diffusion.
>democratizing access to the arts
What planet do you live on where this is a good idea? You actually want moronic monkeys pumping out mindless bullshit and flooding the internet with it? This is the equivalent of democratizing speech with twitter, all this results in is degeneration and widespread mental illness.
I thought art was already democratized???
It's not the copyrighted product that you're selling. Training models is fair use and the outputs do not contain copyrighted images, they create original work. That's the point.
Art is as democratized as it needs to be, its free to become good all you need it dedication and intelligence. The further democracy you are pushing for is to include lazy, low IQ people. Nobody wants to see the art of lazy or low IQ monkeys the same way nobody wants to hear the thoughts of fricking idiots on twitter, this is a negative development in every respect.
Know thy enemy.
Nice coping opinion but nah, AI will keep getting better and democratize art and knowledge. More and more. And you will continue to cry unless you grow up.
2 more weeks
And we know the enemy.
you have no response because you know I'm right. I'm not crying about anything, I already stopped giving a shit about 2d art and illustration on the internet because its been flooded with mindless garbage and I dont have the energy wade through it any longer. This is the future of all artforms AI touches, complete devaluation and total creative suicide, if you have an IQ over 100 you're better off doing anything else.
>"I'm not crying"
>cries
lol
Compared to AI it is. You don't even need a keyboard or mouse to create AI art.
If you had no actual input of your own, then you didn't create shit. No, copy-pasting PROOMPTS is not "creating".
If you need a computer to hold your hand, you won't keep that code monkey job for long.
>If you need a computer to hold your hand
I don't. It's a useful tool, and I won't deny myself a useful tool.
Its not. Its a crutch you're relying on because you're an useless codemonkey that needs a computer to copy-paste code off stack overflow for you
>oh no, people would protest if their livelihood was in danger, what a world
If such a machine was invented, then what are you going to do with all those billions of farmers worldwide who suddenly find themselves obsolete and without means to support their families anymore?
>If such a machine was invented, then what are you going to do with all those billions of farmers worldwide who suddenly find themselves obsolete and without means to support their families anymore?
If you say this, you can't possibly complain that people are automating the hobbies and things that DONT matter, but would absolutely protest things like work and manual labor that
is talking about.
Also, just get a new job, fricking 90% of the world used to work agriculture and now like 5% do, you'll manage.
>Also, just get a new job, fricking 90% of the world used to work agriculture and now like 5% do, you'll manage.
>everyone involved in agriculture suddenly find themselves obsolete overnight
>they just get told to "find a new job lmao"
Just say that you want the world to explode into anarchy
Your game sucks and the fact you needed 3 and a half years AND AI holding your hand is embarassing.
Bro, people have changed jobs before as a result of big technological advancements. It happens, I know you wish it was a big huge doomsday event, but it literally just sorta happens over time, I already gave you the peak example where almost the whole world change their job and it didn't lead to a collapse of civilization, it led to the modern era being the richest and freest in history.
No, it led to a period of time where people who used to enjoy a comfy life farming and managing their family businesses found themselves forced to slave away in mines and factories for miserable pay just to survive, and it led to a lot of strife, suffering and mistreatment.
Nice try revisionist loser, people literally left their farms because they wanted the city life that factories and mining and other new technologies enabled
Keep coping and thinking le farm life was actually based and technology ruined the world.
>"Just say that you want the world to explode into anarchy"
>unironic statement from someone claiming the industrial revolution was a bad thing that should have been avoided
Utterly hilarious.
Literally every programmer references Stack Overflow a few times throughout the day, AI or not. I don't understand what compels you to deny yourself a useful tool. AI isn't what will take your job; it's people who know how to use AI that will.
And you are going to get replaced by someone competent once your boss insists on actually watching you work
My boss loves me. He has had me create presentations on how to use AI in coding for my coworkers because of how much I outperform everyone else. His wife talks to me in the office about AI. Her adopted grandson has dyslexia, and she's been excited about the text-to-speech capabilities of AIs recently. When was the last time you left the house, anon? There's a lot more to AI than generating dicky. Every day, there are new advances everywhere because of AI, but the only thing you know is what you experience through Ganker.
>y-y-our not allowed to have a counter argument, i-its crying
ill accept your concession. not that it means anything since you've shown yourself to be a mindless shill with no actual point of view or system of values beyond sucking the dick of any new corporate technology.
I feel really bad for you if that's what you consider an argument. You're just emotional and speaking nonsense.
> corporate technology.
This is a great example of that nonsense driven by you being an over emotional moron.
There isn't. You can iterate infinitely.
>There isn't
There quite literally is. If you don't even understand the basics, do not bother replying to me.
Stable diffusion is corporate tech you moron, it was released to the public for one reason and 1 reason only. To spread interest in the tech so that they could eventually charge you for the real shit that isn't just cooming to pinup dolls with mutated hands. midjourney and niji journey are lightyears ahead of any free open source option and this will always be the case, close source corporate ran data farms will rule the future of AI and you will pay them your monthly subscription to pretend you have an imagination.
It was made in a research lab not a corporation. SD is better than both of those too. You are schizophrenic and moronic.
No its not, Stability AI is a for profit company you moron, the king pajeet himself already discussed what he was doing releasing SD and it was with the intent to spread adoption of the tech and to eventually monetize. you're a poor monkey which is why you haven't tested the limits of any paid option. the output on all AI is shit but it is far more advanced in the closed of solutions and its obvious why, they are farming data off their userbase to fine tune the models while you are stuck with outdated, crusty free models and being drug along by coomers who make everything about porn.
good, aijeets get the rope
good
AItrannies have somehow exhausted all goodwill in less than a year and become annoying as frick
>a fan who messaged me
yes, of course
there is an AI driven detective game on steam, so I'm not sure how I reconcile his story and the existence of it
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240920/Vaudeville/
the game is jank and not very fun other than seeing the ridiculous shit the AI will say, but it does exist
>Be women working at steam
>get promoted to the ai review team because of esg qouta.
>game gets scheduled for review
>do one month long nothing, except browsing instagram at work
>decline game
Valve is privately owned.
Ok, but what has that to do with anything?
Are you an ai?
Ok, but esl go post make the captcha, gather you?
>gather you?
I can't even understand what you write.
I am pretty sure even as a private company you are forced to do diversity hires but you're right it's not relevant to ESG.
And I bet all you homosexuals b***h and moan about third party launchers, yet steam is nothing more than that by a company that stopped making games before smartphones existed.
Nothing keeping you from using one of the other 10 marketplaces, nothing keeping you from selling and distributing it yourself, nothing keeping you from making your own marketplace.
Literally the only game marketplace that refuses to pay for exclusives and welcomes competition is a "monopoly". Clearly people who play video games for 14 hours a day are not business majors
>Clearly people who play video games for 14 hours a day are not business majors
Yes, anon. Those people are totally the ones complaining about steam "monopoly".
pajeets are shitting their pants because they know they will be the first to be replaced with AI
pajeets frickin love AI, though. Any time you see shit like
with "democratizing access to the arts" and shit, it's probably an Indian man trying to make Patreon bucks off AI-generated art
It seems like a forced meme to me. Regardless of context or quality of the English in the post some autist will just start spamming "good morning sir" because they're an artist butthurt about AI or something. The guy's complaint is valid imo, his game doesn't have any AI in it at all if you read the post
good morning sir
I'm pretty sure Indians are just being hired to shills whatever you need to astroturf.
Their living costs are pretty low and they rarely have access to high-end hardware required to use the new tech.
If anything, they might lose on their revenue because "AI" might pump out more content than human being, if the quality manages to catch up.
How do they even tell with images and shit?
there's AI to detect AI generated material. The gooberment uses it verify shit.
If it's possible to detect AI artifacts, it's also possible to fix them. The cat and mouse game won't last very long.
It's also possible that those shitty AI recognizers tell you something is AI when it's not.
meanwhile if a porn game uses AI most of you are up in arms that they're fighting against your right to streamline porn addiction
Most anons don’t actually play porn games, you just spend too much time in porn game threads for some reason.
>meanwhile if a porn game uses AI most of you are up in arms
Because porn game hitting fetishes just right is already a miracle. AI slop flooding the market will make it even harder to find the gems and even can hurt these gems, since potential supporters will miss it.
Why doesn't he just use one of the many other, competing storefronts?
dura lex sed lex, touch grass and have sex
Redditors are so good at making you hate them by the end of their sob story. Good call Gabe.
Leaving aside the discussion whether it's moronic to remove his game for accessing a ChatGPT API
>3.5 years of hard work
>still in early access
It took four and a half years to develop Stardew.
and the incompetent moron couldn't even make something that looked decent with tools to help him
maybe we should just admit AI is for morons who have no functional creative skill
Tell me what the game was and then I'll decide if I'm outraged or not
the issue is not that the used "AI" but rather that he used ChatGPT, which is a mystery meat AI trained on copyrighted material. if he trained his own AI based on his own material and material in the public domain, there would be no issue.
Training your own model from the ground up costs hundreds of thousands of dollars
The solution is obvious then: Don't add AI to your game
Didi you guys even read the post? He didn't have AI in the game, he had it set up so you could import an AI model if you want to.
Do you not know how to read?
He put ChatGPT into his game as an optional toggle
It's IN the game's code
>The game had a toggle for AI
>You needed to provide your own API key
That means AI wasn't in the game, you had to provide an AI for the game to use. Unless I'm misunderstanding what an API key is.
You are right. The AI runs completely on ChatGPT's end, guardrails and all. You just send and receive messages from it with nothing running on your PC. The amount of people in this thread who obviously didn't read the post and assume that the game is AI made or running shit locally is mind boggling, but I shouldn't be surprised at this point.
>learnt
he deserved it
Why is it a problem to have ai in your game on steam? Whats their issue? Ai in games is the future.
Sir...
Nah I’m not. Seriously, whats steams issue with ai.
Idk, they are very inconsistent with these rule and shit. Still aijeets deserve the rope.
don't want to deal with the potential copyright issue in the future re: illegal usage of material for training data
they're scared of the copyright israelites
>Valve has policy against AI
>Put AI in your game
>Valve rejects it
>"HOW COULD VALVE DO THIS?!!"
Can he not just take out the AI option and resubmit it? If it's such a small part of the game it should be a quick and easy fix.
if valve rejects your game once it's over, you don't get to resubmit
just resubmit under a different name like Under the Witch/Hero's Journey did
Why not read OPs picture?
>nothing of value was lost
why even risk it once valve said nope to game using AI anything? the implementation sounded fricking stupid anyway
Guess games will stagnate for another 100 years because people love to support corporations and won't allow things like true dynamic AI NPCs and questlines because of brown people and 0.001% of the training dataset included Mein Kampf.
that's right, frick libcucks
>>Use a bit of AI to help make the development process easier
This is not even what your post says, did you read it at all?
>"there was no AI-content directly in the build"
>literally admits to including AI-content as an option in the game
>the rules clearly state that no AI-content is allowed
>surprised pikachu face
What a fricking moron.
If he was smart, he could use AI to generate dialogues to put into the game.
If he was smart, he wouldn't have spent 3.5 years and his life savings on making that "game".
>GAME PAGE IS STILL UP ON STEAM
>LITERALLY SAYS "CHARACTERS ARE AI" AND TAGGED AS "ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE"
HMMM
OP is literally an angry ai tard trying to damage control
Valve should've rejected it again
Why is there an AI tag if AI games are banned on steam? What kind of moronic skitzophrenic company are these chuds?
It means "AI" as in the villagers have AI like Chao have in Sonic Adventure.
It's obviously not allowed as he was instantly banned. You Black folk are seriously lazy read the fricking post he explained his interaction with the team.
Black person, I don’t play sonic. How about an example for nonvirgins.
>It's obviously not allowed as he was instantly banned
explain this then
>Vaudeville uses advanced AI technology to create dialogues in real-time. You can interact with the city's intriguing inhabitants using natural language, either by typing or talking into the microphone. Every conversation, every interaction, is unique to your game, offering an unrivalled level of immersion.
>explained
He didn't show any conversations though.
Tags are made by players and devs.
You can use AI, you just have to make sure that the training data used is properly licensed.
Stable Diffusion isn't properly licensed, for example, so you can't use that; ChatGPT you're not allowed to use as while its properly licensed its users aren't allowed to use all licensed works included in the data for commercial purposes.
System Shock would be tagged as Artificial Intelligence.
>AAAAH THEY BANNED MY GAME AFTER I SPENT 3.5 YEARS CODING A STARDEW VALLEY CLONE AND I DIDNT EVEN WRITE THE SCRIPT AN AI DID AAAAH I'M GOING INSAAAANE
AI is used to refer to a lot of shit that is not AI
specially almost ANYTHING to do with NPCs, do you remember call of duty's frickin FISH AI presentation?
>Notice: Heard of the Story? is no longer available on the Steam store.
Read the page bro
remember this exact imagine when in 50 years time a robot scrapes your parents brains off of their feet
Why do people seem to want AI to flood the market with, at absolute best, utterly mediocre stuff?
I don‘t want 100 okay games made with AI, I want 1 that‘s really good.
Now you are gonna attract "it's already flooded with mediocre stuff" morons.
SIR THE PLACE IS ALREADY SHIT SO SO SO ME SHITTING MORE AISHIT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENT SIRRRRRRR!!!!
Explain how a really good game can't by made using AI.
inb4 you assume AI was used to make everything in the game and not simply really trivial stuff no one cares about.
Ok so your idea of AI being bad relies on AI being used for every single part of the game then.
We therefore conclude that AI is fine if it it's used to deal with trivial shit no one cares about.
have a nice day
illogical emotional response from a womanbrain
if you need AI to make a game in the first place it means you are lazy and don't have passion and just want shortcuts
devs who make good games don't take any shortcuts at all unless they are required because of hardware limitations
>devs who make good games don't take any shortcuts at all
That's bullshit. Especially when you look at smaller game devs. Smart devs take shortcuts all the fricking time because doing absolutely everything would not be feasible. They end up making good games regardless because they know to put focus on the things people actually care about.
Minecraft, the most successful game of all time, basically used the fact the game was about blocks as a shortcut to not have to do any sort of complex modelling.
>he thinks blocks were a shortcut and not just because the games notch played were all 2D mazes
you're a braindead moron
A shortcut is a shortcut regardless what the reason for taking it is. Remember the argument here was that devs don't take them, not that you think they have an excuse for taking them.
You dont have a clue what the frick you are saying
have a nice day
>Explain how a really good game can't by made using AI.
Honestly I don't care about the process as long as the output's good
Now, name me one (1) really good game using AI-generated assets or whatever
I'm still waiting for examples btw
I don't, but if you actually read the post there is no AI in the actual game itself, it's an in game mod toggle that requires you to provide an AI to the game. The steam team could have easily told him "No that's not allowed remove it", but instead instantly deleted his game to punish him for not being hardline anti AI.
It's allowed though, the dev probably went on a long ackshually tangent instead of simply saying that the game doesn't have ai content (that all valve really needs to cover their asses). AI Roguelite allows you to use many different AI services and it's on steam.
>valve dick sucker doesnt even read the post before chiming in to defend his favorite corporation
Because they're reactionary morons. One of the biggest problems people have with steam is the amount of zero effort trash on it and they're cheering on a technology that will make it 1000x worse. I think using AI as a tool can be fine if done with care, but that's not how 99.99% of people will use it, they'll use it to automate generating dogshit.
its funny how there are valve fanboys on here just like the console fanboys.
Doesn't High on Life use AI generated art? Why is that allowed on Steam but the game in the OP isn't despite not actually having the ChatGPT stuff in the game itself?
Only corporations are allowed to use AI. Peasantry simply devalues it.
Now this sounds like a reasonable answer. They don’t want a useful new tool in the hands of plebs.
Rick and Morty has been written by an AI for years
Rules for thee
It's probably fake.
Micro$oft published the game. Of course Valve doesn't want to frick with the largest corporation on on earth hence the double standards for anyone smaller.
If the game isn't based around chatGPT why is the dev literally retweeting shit that says it does
My game has AI-generated UI elements.
You can't really tell but it is AI-generated content.
You think these Luddite homos will make an issue out of this?
Yep, you should stop right now and abandon deving all together
Steam allows AI
If you can show reciepts for you training data showing it did not violate copyright or infringe on others IP
i was looking up AI games on steam and there are a few, but i thought this one was kind of funny
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2199920/Inworld_Origins/
it has a bunch of bad reviews because it doesn't understand indian accents
AI is a tool.
You can use it to speed up several things.
There is nothing unethical about using AI.
What we're seeing is just the usual hysteria of something new shaking up the status quo, it will last for a while but eventually it will become the norm and everybody will use it daily.
Attacking random people on the Internet won't stop it, it will just make more people hate luddites.
And the guy in the OP is dumb to even try to include GPT in his game when Valve clearly doesn't want to allow it on Steam.
Your tool is photobashing copyrighted content.
Wait until you find out what the music industry has been doing for decades!
yes the music industry is completely fricked, why do you want every other industry to be like that dumpster fire?
Good point. Where's that music generating AI that was trained on millions of hours of music if there is nothing unethical about it?
https://github.com/facebookresearch/audiocraft
MusicGen was trained on tracks licensed specifically for that purpose. Text and image generation models are trained on just about anything they could get their hands on without concert for legality. GPT (at least before GPT3) was also trained on pirated books.
anon... I'm on your side here but plenty of music AI models exist because the companies that make these models don't give a single shit about ethics.
Music is a solved game. Meaning, that there are only so many ways you can order notes and chords. We found all of the orders. We know how to use them all effectively. There's nothing new to create, because there are too few variables.
Art creation on the other hand has a shit ton of variables. The possibilities are pretty much endless.
Is that why /sdg/ is just a million of similar anime 1girl pictures?
What's /sdg/?
General on Ganker where they post ai generated art.
oh, stable diffusion general. You should have just said that.
Yeah, I have to admit, I don't understand your question.
>Is that why /sdg/ is just a million of similar anime 1girl pictures?
Not that anon and what he said is pretty stupid but /sdg/ isn't just posting anime girls and frankly speaking the variety of art made there is greater than any other website although perhaps /b/ was more varied on account of the illegal content they post.
All content creation is the photobashing of copyrighted content.
The way an AI learns is literally the same as the way a person learns.
>The way an AI learns is literally the same as the way a person learns.
Considering you think LLM is a person, its certainly smarter than you.
I bet you thought Akinator was a real genie
moron.
I hate those "hysteria" periods.
It's so boring watching people go through them when I'm ready to move on two days in.
Thanks for perfectly stating what I also think of the current AI hysteria.
I've recently began drawing digitally, the program allows me to draw stable lines without any issues. Would never be able to do that traditionally on a sheet of paper.
Reminder OP's game was planned to launch on epic game store from the start
>ChatGPT
That shit isn't free for commercial use, you need to pay the licensing fee like any other piece of software developers use in their games. Just another case of an indieshit with no clue how to operate on the business side of things.
>be athlete
>us a little bit of steroids to make the training process easier
>get banned from competitions
>a bit
sure
I want to get Ruinarch removed from the Steam store
Why the frick have they not yet
They updated it post-release with AI slop
>sorry sir your video game contains AI so we cant use it
?????
their platform, their rules
>want to publish game
>self-publish without steam
>this is somehow impossible because.....?
Because the last time 5% of Ganker bought something for the PC market that wasn't a brick-and-mortar purchase or on steam it was Star Citizen.
The other 95% have never bought a game.
>*laughs in starsector*
Same
>go to payment processor website
>pay with prepaid (paysafecard)
>include email
>get the code
Easy.
It bothers me why Itch.io doesn't allow prepaids. Are they moronic or someth-
>they supported BLM and other scams
Of course, they are...
>Muh steam
Steam monopoly is harmful to PC market and killed physical releases too. Frick steam and their supporters. Just release your game somewhere else you greedy fricker.
Wait then why is AI roguelite still on steam?
I hope that fatshit pigworm Gabe Newell dies the most horrible, slowly and painful death a pig like him can die.
Subhuman lardshit Arakis sandworm lard lord.
>a company owes me a product
lmfao what a moron
This is a legal thing, so far it seems that anything made through chatgpt cannot be copyrighted and is really dubiously legal.
Some countries like Russia have outright banned it and Italy banned it for a month too.
And many have argued that since chatgpt is basically a recompiling algorithm and not actual ai (meaning it cannot produce anything which hasn't been produced by people before) that makes it theft.
You can't sell a game if it includes stolen code.
Its a gray area, eventually it will likely become legal simply because the twch uts just too good. Huge corporations are investing in it because it actually works. For games it can make the workflow much faster.
isn't there another platform you could sell it on ?
but you'll have to do the advertisement yourself
not a bad tradeoff imho, when you're on a specific niche, you'll get your niche audience
Jews hate AI because its capable of taking millions of points of data and coming to completely impartial conclusions which often end up going against their olympian mental gymnast worldview and it terrifies them. israelites are also over represented in easy to replace by AI positions like voice acting and little kid tier story writing.
All the push about AI being super dangerous and it needs to be heavily policed and restricted or it will kill us all is just fatcat israelites who are terrified of the implications
Mind-broken schizo.
He's right though, ai already got censored because it stated white people get discriminated.
funny how israelites are "pro science" aka pro putting injections of heavy metals into blood steam, pro genital mutilation, pro psychiatric drugs that radically alter brain chemistry, pro lab grown meat, pro pesticides and GMO, and they will call you a luddite for asking questions about any of that but when a new technology comes out that can critically make assessments of human knowledge and help anyone be more productive, suddenly the science cant be trusted and it is bad and needs to be policed.
Why is beating children so prevalent on the left?
Jews control hollywood. Hollywood loves AI. They are stupid enough to believe they can replace people with it.
>Jews hate AI
Sam Altman is israeli you chud
Stop blocking out names on images homosexual. These Reddit gays want to post with a username, they should be prepared for the shit that comes after.
>let's create artificial species that smarter than us!
Why are humans like this?
i rather have the world dominated by souless machines than the thing our ~~*overlords*~~ are doing
I believe humanity is near at the end of time. We are losing faith in ourselves. Gladly burning all of our voices, words and efforts in orders to fuel a machine for the blind pursue of absolute comfort, profit and pleasure.
Unfortunately, I don't think this will ever end. There are simply too many idiots and scums. They are willing to do anything to reach their hedonistic goal even at the cost of other human being.
You're such a moronic gay. What are you arguing exactly? Less enjoyment and more work. Keep in mind "work" is just a scam to make the wealthy wealthier. The vast majority of humanity benefits less than they do from our working.
Speaking like a true nihilistic 4chin dopamine fried moron. Yes keep consuming until your death. Nothing else matter, the world can burn as long as my dopamine level is always peak.
>projection from a schizo moron
>he uses le projection respond
Yeah sure jimmy. What do you care about then?
The answer to humanity being nothing is allowing nonwhites to have any modicum of power or existence
>ToS: You will not use AI.
>uses AI
>gets banned
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HECKING NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HELLO IM BEING RAPED!??????? Edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger!! <3
Are all Unity games getting banned from steam?
ChatGPT Npcs are the future, wtf is Gaben doin
>AI BAD
Okay stop using anything related to AI. Those new features on your iphone that use AI? Stop using it. Google? Uses AI now as well. Stop using it.
>Iphone
>Google
Anyone who uses either is moronic so that's easy.
Are you an artist? I don't think so. Artist are tech illiterate. Pretty sure they use those
Maybe the collective justified hatred artists have for AI will be enough for them to learn.
Hahaha. They won't
You mean camera software that adds details that weren't there in the real world? Or voice "assistants" that listen to everything you say? Or search "engines" that feed you advertisements instead of actual content?
AI isn't bad but you probably shouldn't sell something that was made by AI.
Should people be able to sell weed, alcohol and cigarettes?
No, only the israelites.
No.
Then you guys aren't liberal artist. Artist would say people should be allowed to sell those and it's not anyway related to AI.
It's not up to drug dealers or artists what they're allowed to sell.
>only retort is a cringy Facebook meme
>couldn't even do it properly
Yiiikes. Not only a you tech-illiterate moron but you're also an a literal NPC. What's the matter did you have to consult ChatGTP first what to reply with?
moron took a screencap of a post edit. Nothing was changed I just wanted to ENUNCIATE that I will immediately resort to violence and shoot you until death because you're too much of a colossal moron to mince words with. I stand by it now tell me where you live
It's literally just legal issues bro, they dont know if it's legal and they dont want to be
Just wait two months, the sarah anderson lawsuit is soon to be thrown out(the judge already dismissed like 99% of it, and said was inclined to dump the whole thing)
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-judge-finds-flaws-artists-lawsuit-against-ai-companies-2023-07-19/
Am I misreading? It doesnt sound like the ai was to make the dev process easier, it was a side mod that altered dialog being used in game
No but Valve employee did. No appeals btw :^)
I think you read it right, but also consider that if this is what he's publicly saying to defend himself, it probably stands that he did more than that too. AI is even in his steam description directly. It's like when people get banned on an MMO for rulebreaking and then act like they didn't do any or only did a little, only to get roasted by the team that banned them.
>"AI"
this isn't real AI and Steam is dumb for doing this
There is not such thing as real AI. All that AI does is search the internet for an answer and give you the one that is most probable to be right.
So is Steam going to ban all Unity, and eventually Unreal, games then?
moron.
It's an "AI BAAAAD AHHHH STOP USING TECHNOLOGY AND GO INTO A CAVE AND SMEAR SHIT ON A STONE TO MAKE ART" problem.
moron.
Oh wow, its the greedy idiot who's based solely on being contrarian to Apple and Steam!
No, because it's a licensing and liability issue.
I wonder what Ganker would think when they find out that all that AI presents as information is being curated by a bunch of nigs in Africa.
We don't talk about that.
We also don't talk about DallE2 counterbias, which involves randomly adding diversity keywords to most prompts, including prompts unrelated to people (so you end up with Martin Luther Cheese Jr., or asian women immaculately appearing in a prompt devoid of people)
Don't be a lazy frick next time
artgays are unsufferable
They were so sure that they'd be last and always cheered for when millions of people were losing jobs to automation, really reaping what they sowed
>humans choosing to suffer
Many such cases
Point me one single fricking artist that has said that. You rent free moron.
>writers telling coal miners to "learn 2 code"
>gets mad when their industry is invaded and told "learn to code" in response all the same
wasn't that a /misc/ insult to journalists?
>writers telling miners to "learn 2 code"
>writers
>coding
>not programmer
Schizo rent free moron. Keep seething with your imaginary boogeyman kek.
Explain, it seems to me you're splitting hairs
You makes the claims
>oh all artist says miners to learn to code, they deserve it
Show me actual proof of a single fricking one.
Fricking schizo moron. You sound like a bot perpetuating bullshit.
Well if you dont consider a writer to be a type of artist we can't move beyond this. I just asked you to explain what you mean in all that greentexting.
said no artist ever m'astroturfed divide and conquer campaign
You mean the programmers, right?
>lost a job? Learn to code!
>reddit thread
Into the trash it goes and so should you, homosexual.
Go to Epic. They're the good guys fighting for little people like us.
>noooo, I won't be able to make more money off desperate coomers drawing characters I do not even own
>nooo
kys
The Ai was generating text
Are people stupid? It got removed specifically cause it uses chatgpt and asks for the users openAI key.
Valve doesn't want to mess around with chatgpt specifically cause it's trained on copyrighted material, which makes it a legal nightmare if any laws get put on generative AI.
No it's because Valve is evil... because they just is, okay?!?!
>artist trained on other people's art
>ye
>ai trained on other people's art
>nay
You luddites won't win.
lossy compression is not ai
selling an ai product is no different than using copyrighted materials
dumb frick zoomers that dont understand valve is just covering their ass from a google level lawsuit for hosting copyrighted material on their store are delusional
If I can buy assets such as assets on Unity's store for my game or stock assets like sound packs and texture packs then I think AI coding can be handled the same.
I don't care about the whole AI part of this discourse, spending your life savings on a trash procedural generated "cosy" medieval city-building simulation game is a bad fricking idea.
You have to be truly senseless to put everything into this kind of idea. Even years into development and a failed kickstarter you can tell this just sucks.
Using the phrase AI is a triggerword for normies and artgays now anyways, if he just said NPC's instead of AI Villagers it wouldn't be so bad since the meaning of the term AI has gotten so muddied over the last couple years.
Imagine being a gay artist, writer, voice actor, etc.
Imagine you spent your entire life learning a useless "skill" that's going to be completely automated away
Imagine trying to gain sympathy from other hard workers after you laughed when their jobs were automated away.
Imagine still acting as if UBI wasn't the answer all along, and rather then demand the government for cash, demand we stop progress.
Get fricked.
Every single company, that isn't run by per morons, is, as we speak, incorporating AI and LLM technologies within their respective products.
Google, Nvidia, Epic, Unity, Blender, Zbrush, Meta, Microsoft, etc etc etc
You cannot stop it.
What's your job, anon?
Software Engineer
This must be that Ganker bot that youtuber made lol
This the result of spending four decades shitting on liberal arts and telling people just le do STEM. How do you expect conservatives to be creative and have any impact on culture when you tell two consecutive generations it’s waste of time and repeatedly shit on people who end up with degrees in literature, etc.
Good
>Valve says no AI
>Put AI in the game
>Get cancelled
??? is he a moron?
>zukowski
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
AI games are banned off steam? zased
Based Gabe.
itt: pa/g/eets on full cope trying to defend their "tool"
dumb pajeet
>A shitty stardew/harvest moon clone rejected
>This is somehow a bad thing
Frick these talentless indie devs, and extra frick that corner-cutting whiner who thought he could make a quick wholesomerino cashgrab with less effort.
if you think machine learning is intelligence then you aren't qualified to talk about AI.
how does anyone even believe for one second that this redditgay is telling the truth? there are plenty of games on steam that have utilized AI and they aren't banned arbitrarily. i would bet money that he did something actually against TOS and is sperging out and crying to his sycophants now that he's actually been caught out. Valve did nothing wrong. As usual.
Never tell people what you are doing. Keep your techniques and skill a secret from others.
just fricking learn to write dialogue, if a machine can do it then so can you
how about you learn reading comprehension first.
>People have been wanting npcs with close to true ai for ever
>Steam decides that no, that's bad and bans indie games that try to deliver that
>But big games like High On Life that use AI art are fine because they bring in more money
Just you fricking watch as a AAA game using AI dialog and steam allows it. This is bullshit.
it's fake news
>big games like High On Life that use AI art are fine
This actually is bullshit. Either it should be allowed for everyone or no one. Valve shouldn't be doing this wishy washy shit.
Valve has always been wishy washy about their decisions because it all literally comes down to the person who is reviewing it and their feelings that day. It's the same shit that prevented Dungeon Travellers being released on steam while there is flat out fricking sex games.
No see we need to keep infighting while all big corporations flood the market with actual slop while simultaneously thinking that some indie devs taking shortcuts will kill the industry.
Also why the frick does dogshit like this get on Steam, even after this ban came into effect?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2240920/Vaudeville/
The review process is just ran by incompetent morons who make inconsistent rulings completely arbitrarily. The fate of potentially years of time and money invested hangs completely in the hands of some wagie barely paying attention.
We need AI shitposts with automated AI responses, all generated from a blob of archived shitposts from 2016-2023 so I can finally leave this shithole.
there's nothing stopping you from creating such a bot right now I've done it
I need an AI to do that for me too.
Borrowing code from people who actually know stuff.
Good.
Frick normalgays trying to show off ai st every opportunity like they think it makes them special to write "Write me a text essay in pidgin in the tone of a black in london arguing over build vs no build in fortnite"
>steal content
>get banned
>WOOOOOW
Make an AI function that neither you nor Steam can control. So as far as Steam is concerned you're going to allow the game to go full Nazi or start raving about genocide. Yeah it really shouldn't be a shock his game got declined.
When did anons start caring about artists of all things? All good art has already been created anyway, including games. All AI is gonna do is force a bunch of gays to finally get a real job.
It reminds me of Steam randomly banning Japanese vidya. They do frickall to explain their decision making and only change course if there is enough online backlash. The most evil example is that guy about the Hong Kong protests being rejected with no justification. I always buy VNs straight from the devs websites if I can ehlp it.
why do american cucks hate AI?
t. spic
American Hispanic here, it's because we don't want third worlders like you shitting up the markets with your ai slop
I personally hate 99% of humanity, they are all scum, seeing them replaced by automatons doesn't make a difference for me.
Sucks for the dev, I hope China legalize the use of AI for commercial products, and chink devs inundate steam with cheap shit.
Same but all nonwhites (asians ok$
No one cares troony
Cool beans, Chang.
No one cares. War with china will happen in the next 10 years and it will be TOTAL CHINK DEATH
I hope WW3 starts around 2025, and I hope China and US nukes my country into oblivion, really tired of this shitshow.
I hate to break the Ganker circlejerk but there has been NO, and I mean, NO evidence, either historically or even theoretically of automation destroying jobs and making everyone broke, every time we think we're running out of jobs we just make new jobs because human desire is infinite.
if we figured out how to automate food and art we don't just have huge unemployment, we just move on to the next thing, now we want cell phones, until we automate those, now we want cars, until we automate those, now we want spaceships, until we automate those, until all demand is finished forever.
The idea that Steam can just completely control the culture is bullshit
Steam support is shit. It's like hoping for a human to review, comprehend, and empathize with your issue using Youtube or Google. All those big tech companies have ironically automated the support function to such a degree that if you don't paint 100% within the lines of historical precedent, you might as well not even hope for a favorable response.
That said, AI is so controversial right now with artists and VAs pretending it's copying everything they've ever done, that you're a goddamn moron if you let it within a mile of your dev project if you're hoping to release it commercially.
good morning sirs
Large AI datasets for things like ChatGPT or Stable Diffusion always include stolen data. That's just how these things work. As such, a blanket ban on everything that uses AI is not only reasonable, but the only legal choice for an entity like Valve. Get your own data and program your own shit if you want to sell it.
>you wouldn't steal a jpeg
It's not stolen btw, fair use. Steam is open to devs using AI as well.
>fair use
Not if you're including it as part of a product being sold.
If it was a blanket ban that'd be one thing but High On Life used mid journey and Vaudeville uses chat gpt and they are both on steam
Some developers are more equal than others chuddy
Anti-AI posters will brush this off. We all know big corporations will be allowed to use AI while the little guy gets fricked.
>use copyrighted assets you don't have the rights to distribute
>get banned
What's so shocking here?
>anti-AI Black folk
Hope you gays don't play Dwarf Fortress or Minecraft or anything else that's procedurally generated
Procedural generation isn't AI, moron.
Are you implying that stable-diffusion isn't AI?
That's not at all what I'm implying.
Smartest AI-gay
>AI can revolutionize NPC interaction in RPG
>blocked due regulations
I hate boomers, I despise boomers, the boomer mentality is a virus that infects generations, if something exists and it works, it should be used, but, no, got stop the competition, muh morality, muh ethics, muh jerbs.
I hate humanity in general
It hasn't been blocked.
If your NPCs are so inconsequential that an AI can write them then your game doesn't need them.
>inconsequential
Its not about inconsequential, its about acting like a schizophrenic fish malk murder hobo, not every game has this option.
And if you act like a shizo fish malk murder hobo and the NPCs react like AI it will not add anything to your game at all.
>He unironically thinks players will just chat with random NPCs outside of predictable themes more that 2-3 times
Delusional
AI powered NPCs is a toy that will become stale really fast
Looking at the chatbot craze Ganker had this is pretty unlikely. With proper APIs you can have the best of both worlds too. Defined characters created by people, fleshed out somewhat with dynamic AI improvements. IE Skyrim 2 but NPCs actually have memories. Or Monyleux's Fable memes brought to life, trees that grow for real and NPCs that treat you like the hero you really are!!!
You can create new prompts. There are an infinite amount of variables, ergo more than any single art tool you worship.
>There are an infinite amount of variables
There is quite literally a finite parameter count and context size
Yeah nevermind that the computer loses its fricking mind if you try to make it draw anything other than a standing portrait of a specific character.
It's for consumer protection so that the market doesn't get flooded with cheap as frick AI games like it did with cheap as frick hentai puzzle games. Companies wanting to make games like use AI in a meaningful way can be sold on other storefronts and we can see if that pushes the industry forward in any way.
All this AI controversy is convincing me is that it's time to do away entirely with IP and the notion that one can own an idea. It feels like this is one of the great hurdles mankind must overcome in order to ascend to the next phase of civilization or something.
how to spot a NEET that dont own anything
how to spot coping temporarily-embarrassed millionaires who would rather hog knowledge for personal profit than advance to the next age of civilization.
The notion of "intellectual property" is fundamentally flawed and harmful to human progress. Treating ideas, information, and culture as ownable property may benefit individual interests, but ultimately stifles innovation and shared knowledge.
Knowledge itself is non-rivalrous - one person using an idea does not deprive others of benefitting from or modifying that idea. Yet intellectual property laws create artificial scarcity, restricting usage and distribution of information that could be freely shared. This impedes the cumulative innovation that comes from building on existing ideas.
The increasing expansion of intellectual property protections also threatens the public domain. Things like folk tales, recipes, or yoga poses become "owned" despite being part of shared human culture for ages. Corporations can then restrict or charge for cultural elements that ought to belong to all.
Intellectual property law also fails to properly credit all contributions to ideas and innovation. Advancements build on centuries of shared knowledge, yet single individuals or companies are granted monopolies, as if breakthroughs emerge from a vacuum. No creation springs wholly formed from one person's mind.
There are better systems than intellectual property for supporting creators, like patronage, prizes, or basic income programs. Ideas flourish when freely shared, not locked down for profit. Focus should be on what benefits humanity most, not protecting private corporate interests. True innovation comes from the open exchange and modification of ideas for the common good.
tl;dr frick you and frick your profiteering for holding back the progress of mankind at large.
>how to spot a communist moron who doesn't understand basic human psychology and the incentives for encouraging difficult, valuable work.
nobody is supporting the ridiculous, infinite copyright extensions that Disney pushed for but the way it is structured with time limits and profit for the pioneer is how it should be. patronage, prizes and basic income are just less efficient ways of organizing capital in our current era.
Da comrade, North korea sounds like your kind of country
That hurdle being greed in general and yes we have to get over it if we want to make the world a better place. AI can help with that but it's uncertain whether ((they)) will let that happen.
>Cars didn't democratize movement, humans did.
Cars helped us dramatically with travel, you can move thousands of times faster with motors and engines.
AI art helps us dramatically with creating art. I can create more art in 10 minutes than you can in a life time. This is an objective fact.
What a stupid post.
Hey there, little boy! I hope you're enjoying all those AI images of the same thing you generated. You must be so proud of yourself, spending hours upon hours creating identical pictures that you'll never even look at again. What a waste of time and effort. Seriously, how fricking pathetic are you?
You know what else is pathetic? Your lack of creativity and originality. Instead of using your brain to develop a real hobby, you're just telling a computer to generate the same image over and over again. That's not art, that's not even remotely close to being art. It's just a bunch of meaningless pixels on a screen.
And let's not forget about your pride in your deluge of imagery for the mere sake of it. How can you even call yourself an artist if you don't even care enough about your own output to let it simply exist for even a minute before supplanting it with "more, more, more"? You're a total fricking homosexual, wasting your life away on pointless shit like this. Get a real hobby, or better yet, get a life.
>Use a bit of AI to help make the development process easier
That’s not what happened though.
>make game
>generate all my art, audio, and dialogue using AI
>claim it was all done by hand
>nobody will ever know
>not even steam
Sometimes honesty is not the best policy
will ever know
Funniest post ITT
Correction,
Nobody can ever PROVE it
>nobody will ever know
pure utter delusion
>I'm going to steal from the cookie jar... and never tell Mom about it! There's NO WAY she would EVER find out!!!
AI art look the exact same fricking soulless shit to me. Every single one of them. It's why they're so easy to tell that they're AI art in the first place. I do not fricking understand people who are completely obsessed with this shit.
Uh oh, sweaties, do you not like the technotroony neofeudalist nightmare future where all art is soulless factory-produced dreck to free up more humans for back-breaking manual labour?
Well it sounds like you're basically a caveman then! Don't you know that progress is inherently good no matter what direction you're progressing in?
Looks like you've got some growing up to do.
This anti-ai moronation feels artificial in and off itself
I wonder if it's astroturfing by the companies that lost trying to siphone as much moola as possible from useful idiots like during the dot com craze
ai is kinda stinkpilled. anybody else tiredpilled of ai? like either invent something cool that's not some stupid chat bot to make up for your neutered search engine or frig off ricky.
AIBROS WE GOT A BIG ALLY SIRS
>it's real
The fricking legend.
I kneel. I fricking kneel.
Gaben is done.
Steam already has enough asset-flips
Keep coping.
>"W-we are still h-here if if you w-want..."
Why do morons want a future where robots make all the art so humans have time to work? Ever since the invention of the robot, people have been trying to find a way to make it the other way around.
If you invented a machine that infinitely creates food, farmers would complain that you're putting them out of business and would immediately lobby for it to get banned.
That's the level of anti-automation discourse we're at right now, nobody wants to change their job no matter how much of a benefit it can provide to everyone else.
do want a short answer (antisemitic) or a long answer (VERY antisemitic)?
Why is it always muh art?
I'm already an artist.
I'd rather AI code for me so I could make the art and assets for my game.
Genuinely, the answer is capitalism. We can't have robots take over our work because we need our work to survive, but robots won't just stop developing so they're used for other things. Like
said, people would be afraid of losing their jobs. Socialized income would solve this, and as robots and ai increase in usefulness and ease of access, it's going to be the only viable future.
Robots will take over everything and the only answer is accelerationism to eliminate all jobs as soon as possible.
I use AI every day as a software engineer, and it massively reduces the time it takes to write code. If the only thing you've seen of AI is anime girls with six fingers and have developed some absurd hatred of all AI because of it, I feel really bad for you.
And I feel bad for you code monkey.
Its no wonder ((they)) love it so much when it deliver the shittiest code known to man
I was a depressed neet for a long time that thought learning how to draw and paint would be good for me because its entirely solo and a good outlet for my degenerate fetishes etc.
To be honest, I think making art that is actually good and not deviant art tier crap is extremely difficult and has very little extrinsic reward compared to the work you have to put in.
When ai art started to actually get good, like stable diffusion and midjourney, it was honestly one of the most incredibly soul crushing things I think I will ever experience.
A while ago I just decided that I don't ever want to have a career in art and I'm going back to school to finish a CS degree, and almost immediately my depression lifted.
Very blog posty but I just wanted to say at the end of the day ai just makes me sad. I was never a political person and I generally hate super artsy tumblr type people, but seeing people shit on artists because of buzzfeed making fun of blue collar workers makes me even more sad.
All of my favorite hobbies involve games, anime, books, movies hentai etc all created by artists or whatever and I don't understand why aibros hate them so much.
Stuff like game translations that are MTL have always been vastly inferior to actual translators, I don't see how machine created art will be any better.
Anyway, I guess if people want the slop that it makes, more power to them.
The hatred of artists from tech worshiping golems is based on jealousy. There is actually nothing to be gained from making AI other than dressing up as an artist and regurgitating echoes of your favorite art. It's the same impulse as watching evangelion then wishing you were anno and were smart enough to have made evangelion so you make some shitty rip off with custom OC characters that nobody gives a shit about.
Should have realized that at least a decade ago. Anyone that has ever used steam should be killed.
Steam has been beneficial for gaming overall, unless you want to cope how great gaming has been in the "good old days" with all the malware tier DRM shit and copy protection, awful ports, preservation and long-term support getting handwaved or the period of people shitting on PC and refusing to make games for it because "it's gonna die any second now, trust me!!!"
Steam made gaming more convenient and comfortable overall
How easy is to get your game approved on Steam? I have read about Devs getting rejected yet I keep seeing tons of meme games like Cuckhold Simulator and other parodies
>I download an open source program
>I ask it to make me big booba
>it does, for the same cost as running a AAA game for three seconds
>an “ethicist”, a Twitter artist, and a copyright white knight are all pissed off at once
Oh no haha, not those people I deeply respect haha, I should definitely “own the israelites” by uhhh “paying people for labor I don’t find valuable and respecting copyright”. That’ll teach schlomo for sure
Is Steam's actual response anywhere? So far there's only one side of the story and it seems incredibly sus. Leave it to the Internet to jump on the outrage bandwagon before learning all the facts!
He is an indie dev who lacks funds so his marketing options are limited. What is the best strategy to promote your game for free? Make up a lie to generate controversy and hope that some twittergay notices it. It worked.
computer, generate a pleasant picture of Nilou from the hit gacha game Genshin Impact and make it in the style of Afrobull
Of course it's the genshit normalgay that likes AI slop
computer, generate a pleasant picture of Nilou from the superior botw-style game named Genshin Impact and make it in the style of Takeuchi Takashi
I don't play Genshin but I know it makes Ganker seethe
yeah, I didn't inpaint or use a controlnet hand preset to get 20/20 hands
I keep it at 0.65 lest it fries or disobeys with ahegao
>I don't play Genshin but I know it makes Ganker seethe
No, it's more of just an annoyance that it being anime styled makes its fans mistakenly believe it isn't slop for normalgays, especially since said fans haven't played any real vidya in their life.
>I keep it at 0.65 lest it fries or disobeys with ahegao
>claims to be able to do something
>immediately admits he can't actually do it
Why are you like this? BTFOing yourself without anyone even lifting a finger? And then doing it a second time without being prompted?
https://civitai.com/search/models?sortBy=models_v2&query=afrobull
Are you telling me to do it myself or something? No, I don't think I will. You claimed infinite possibilities and then failed miserably when attempting to show it off. Please, generate Nilou "in the style of" a third artist!
>I keep it at 0.65 lest it fries or disobeys with ahegao
Lower your cfg.
Yes it did, you put them in there and it can create new ideas based on what you feed it. You don't understand this technology.
>you put them in there and it can create new ideas based on what you feed it.
Nice oxymoron moron.
1(training data) + 2(algorithm) = 3(new idea)
you can do 1+ 1 x 1 1 + 2 or any infinite amount of combinations. It's OBJECTIVELY mathematically more creative than humanity as a whole. AI is amazing and that's why you're seething.
>the only thing AI is good for is copypasta
lmfao
>eyes looking in different directions
>Background is discodant, looks nothing like anywhere in Genshin Impact nor does it adhere to its style, even outside of Genshin it bares only a passing resemblence to a countryside, flowers in the foreground are mutated
>Why is there sunshine on her during the dayime
>Shading is fricked generally, some parts are illuminated logically but otherwise there are just patches of light for no reason
>Those hands
>One leg is clothes the other is bare (and fricked, what's going ont here is she squatting or an octopus?)
>Vomit of fabric behind her
>Pattern on her outfits is inconsistent as frick
>Tiara blends into hair
>Hair blends into veil
>That shoulder
>Those sleeves
God the more you look the more garbage you see
>Still fricks the fingers
Some things never change
That doesn't look like afrobull at all, wtf
>I made this art with AI
>AI learns how to make art the same way a human does
>I'm the real artist
How does one contort their mind into this shape?
>Game got banned for optional text generation dialog
>People ITT keep bringing up AI art
Yeah I don't understand why people are talking about stable diffusion. The guy made all his own assets and he wrote his own dialog he just integrated chat gpt on top of that.
And that's bad. He deserves to lose all his work and be barred from the industry.
Because LLMs tech is already a failed tech.
So what you have is AIgays larping as artists and singularity morons thinking "AI" will bring them free welfare
You are irredeemably moronic.
>waah waaaah chatgpt isn't going to be my perfect robot waifu
cope tard
Artgays are insufferable yes
>Be Valve
>Come up with a good business model of making an all in one software that acts as a storefront, a social network, chat client, and can interface with game servers all in one
>Draw people to it with your really popular games
>Liscence games from other developers and put them on your storefront
>Mutually beneficial as you expose their audience to your games and their games are exposed to more people
>As you make more money and get bigger, add more features to your software
>This goes on for over a decade as other developers are still focussing on shitty consoles, any attempts at a PC storefront are attrocious to use
>Suddenly people realise you have a ton of market share because people like to use your software
>They cry and piss their pants that it's not fair as they try to dethrone you with more garbage storefronts nobody wants to use
>Steam does nothing and wins anyway because it has the best features and games
Where exactly is the unethical "fat cat baron hypercapitalist tech bro" behaviour in this?
>Where exactly is the unethical "fat cat baron hypercapitalist tech bro" behaviour in this?
Nowhere, it's just a convenient argument for Sweeney Tim to use to convince useful idiots to simp for him and use his garbage platform in spite of him engaging in literal monopolies.
>go to the reddit thread
>full of people defending valve
>"Um, don't you know AI is trained on copywrited content??"
>"It's Valve's platform sweetie they can do what they want."
>"You shouldn't have done this it is your own fault."
>read Ganker thread
>it's all the same shit but phrased more stupidly
This board truly is dead.
and it's completely fake news
so many morons running around
You are right but it's not a complete echo chamber like leddit
So you went to reddit to learn what opinion you should not hold?
No, I just saw that every opinion here was fricking reddit tier and went there to confirm that you morons are literally as braindead as redditors.
Uh-huh.
Redditards love AI slop?
Reddit is the center of AI hate.
Typically argued based on it being evil because it was trained on copyrighted material