>be indie game dev
>make hit game
>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales (estimate based on likelihood of users leaving reviews)
>refuse to hire anyone to work on your game.
Why, anons? I know damn well if I were in charge, I'd be hiring people as a long term investment. It's only a fraction of the money the game has made/stands to make.
It sucks too, because I really like the game, and it feels like the hype will die down if it's being updated by only one guy. Even now his update schedule is all out of wack (the autumnal update was supposed to be halloween, and last week he said that there'd be an update this week)
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Indie FOTM devs are commonly known for making great decisions after their games blow up
which is sell the IP to the highest bidder
take the money and run dev-kun
I wish they'd just crunch time valheim and release it. I got mods so there's that at least.
Hopefully the idea gets big and someone else takes a shot at making a game of that genre.
Not doing anything is the smartest move
You either die a hero, or live long enough to hire that moron Jeb and sell your IP to a company that strips your name from it and ruins it in a bid to drain every last dollar out of it.
the more people in charge the more your own artistic vision is diluted
just look at what happened to risk of rain
based visionGOD
design by committee gays should kill themselves
He can hire people and still be in charge. He could have full creative control of his own game. He just needs to make sure it's set up that way. It's his own game after all.
>He can hire people and still be in charge. He could have full creative control of his own game. He just needs to make sure it's set up that way. It's his own game after all.
yeah, tell that to MikeZ lmao
Uh-huh.
Putting aside the long history of hostile takeovers of IPs, some people don’t want to constantly be looking over people’s shoulders to make sure they aren’t fricking up.
>hire more people
>they have their own idea of where the game should go
>say no
>they fight you
>development stalls while you and your new hires hash out personal bullshit
>eventually decide, frick it. fire them all
>if you're lucky, they all just move on and you're back to being a single dev
>if you're not, they make public any little bit of dirty they may have on you to frick with you.
>He could have full creative control of his own game. He just needs to make sure it's set up that way. It's his own game after all.
yes and the play is to not hire anyone. stupid Black person.
the based furgay will never hire you, stop b***hing on anonymous imageboards like it'll change anything.
Managing people in a project is full time job in and off itself. EVERY person on the project will come to you with ideas, concerns, and straight up demands. You have to do so much tard wrangling that it's often easier to handle a small-mid size project by yourself.
This. Project management is super important regardless of what industry you're in. Look at Burning Lands for example. Hell, take a look at Halo Infinite as well.
So he can turn down their shitty ideas and they make a twitter thread doxxing him and exposing le bad working conditions ruining his life? Nah
T. Never tard wrangle a group of stubborn idiots
>hire people
>they say "he's sooo toxic look at this meanie thing he said when i tried to put in they/them pronouns he's a bigot!"
>gets cancelled
frick off you insidious dick
Your entire worldview is based on 1 or 2 horror stories paraded endlessly on this board. Mentally destitute.
Yeah sure anon keep trying to worm your way into Lethal Company development maybe you'll get to put in your rainbow flag
But the dev is already a gay furry? Don't tell me you gave money to the group that you hate, anon...
Why are all the good games made by gay furries?
Why are all the games made by Ganker shit?
>mentally ill openminded people with NO filter are creative
>mentally ill envious people who second guess themselves, are self conscious and embitter themselves are NOT creative
it's not hard
>openminded
not all of them
then again this was a woman so
Thats fine if he's a gay furry I have no issues with gay people at all its when its crammed into everything. Also the fact that he's a gay furry and there AREN'T any pride flags makes him even cooler
>Your entire worldview is based on 1 or 2 horror stories paraded endlessly on this board. Mentally destitute.
>1 or 2
get a job anon
this shit is more common than you think
Nope. People get greedy and will try to take his shit. If they can't they'll make up some bullshit about him.
You sound like a fricking israelite who's dying to get into the game and push your troony agenda.
Bloodsucking Leech "hands" typed this post
>He just needs to make sure it's set up that way
I can see that you have never had to manage anything. Cat herding is the name of the game. Systems are important but only at the point where the company is monolithic and franchising.
>invest time and money onboarding some bandwagoner
>they do their job initially
>keep pushing boundaries
>disciplinary action is a mixed back and at worst they just will not care because they know they now have leverage over you because your independent workflow is now a pipeline in which they are essential and replacing them is more trouble than 'the little thing' they have done
>a) you cuck out and they have an unmitigated influence on your product be it quality or content
>b) fire them and eat the cost in your own time hiring and onboarding them, money from hiring them, productivity as a whole as the pipeline is patched up, and being taken away from whatever higher order work you were doing because you are the only one who can temp for them - oh and also the fan backlash because critical things are left fricked or the public timeline is now entirely scuttled
Management is a c**t and unless you know what you are doing it is easy to have people frick you over.
Those hires are a trap, they send you a woman, claim you raped in twitter, then the new team gets the ip for themselves
Not the first time it happened
spbp. if the game gets fricked up he's the only one to blame.
Thank you
ah yes, the artistic vision of your multiplayer, procedurally generated, probably store bought assets game
What if my artistic vision is to have music from a specific composer I like
then you just comission it for a set price
then you copy them like 95% of all musicians and artists in general
But I can't compose, much less in that composers (obscure and specific) style
You do know you can contract people for specific things you know. You don't need to get permanent employees on a project if you don't want your vision to be tainted. You can just say I'm looking to contract someone for this one thing and if it goes well I may contract you for additional things. Also someone in OPs pic literally offered to do translations for free and the guy said no, honestly that just seems a bit autistic.
Probably because he is actually autistic in case being a furry roblox game developer wasn't tipping it off
You can’t ever really trust a translation, it’s not as if you understand what the translator has written.
You can cross-reference translations with google translate/deepL and many many internet resources widely available online. We're not in the 19fricking80s here. People literally translate their games with crowdin
>We're not in the 19fricking80s here
People still don't get this and they never will.
>Someone in OPs pick literally offered to do translations for free and the guy said no
Maybe he just hates Russian and doesnt give a frick about the game selling there. Why would he.
Once you're a multi millionaire its not like you have to bend the knee for profit if you dont want to
If I was in his position I'd say the same thing: Frick russia and their dogshit alphabet. Let them learn english if they want to play
>I'll do translations for free :^)
>inserts a lot of political bullshit because of current thing
Gee yeah I really don't know why anyone would reject free help. Truly a mystery
I have hated russians for over a decade because they ruin online games they take part in
Their culture is dogshit because they dont have basic manners and lack social skills. If I was a dev I'd cut my nose to spite my face by region locking them and refusing to localise in their languge
The war in ukraine is just another drop in the bucket as far as I'm concerned. I dont care whats going on with them politically, I dont like them as a people because they arent particularly nice people.
>le artistic vision
What games do you like?
Call of Duty, Fortnite, and World of Warcraft
Yes, but I don't see what a translation has to do with artistic vision, he will just translate it in exchange for a "translation done by X" in-game when you select it.
The true reason: He probably has a bunch of stuff hardcoded and doesn't want to focus on this right now.
This. That and contracting out to people is notoriously risky when you are a smaller entity. There have been people who have licensed out their property to a developer and paid for development only for the devs to work on their own game instead.
This is why writer rooms are a bad ideal unless you're a long running TV series that produces slop
>just look at what happened to risk of rain
>Risk of Rain Returns' new content under Gearbox's full control is magnitude times better and more faithful to the artistic vision of the original than Risk of Rain 2 was while being developed by Hopoo
I don't follow
>the more people in charge the more your own artistic vision is diluted
>just look at what happened to risk of rain
this, we've seen countless indie games ruined after people come along claiming good intentions
Never forget notch hired "Minecraft Chick" after 4 incompetent lets play videos
In modern days you NEVER want to hire random people to work with you, just get the friends you know you can trust
Maybe videogames are the friends we made along the way, anyone feel that way?
>Be furry troony pedo gooner
>Be relatively broke NEET
>Have monkey hitting keyboard randomly moment and make a game with a great fantastic idea
>Get gazillions of dollars from it
>Decide there's no reason to do anything in life anymore or upgrade your game, can literally buy a 9/10 child slave from the slums and force them to dress as a furbawd cub
Yeah I wonder why they're not doing anything to upgrade the game anymore, haha.
Why haven't you had your "monkey hitting keyboard randomly moment"? Or is it that you haven't tried at all?
I did but my money got stolen by a woman and I never make money from my product/idea anymore, tis life.
damn looks like you're mad the dev didn't fall for the same shit you did lol
I'm not though? Obviously not gonna dox myself but I have more of a proven track record than him, I like his game a lot, but it's clear he doesn't intend to update his game "weekly" like he initially promised. This doesn't just happen to small devs either, same shit happened to Rockstar once they started making billions from GTA Online, all the OG Employees starting partying, spending tons of money on drugs, hookers (expensive ones) and far more illegal things too.
Most people aren't passionate about their products, if you give them too much money, they will not continue to work on that product especially if they have 0 reason to.
He has 0 legal or financial incentive to continue working on the game and has more money than almost everyone on this board combined (outside of secret celebs).
I hope he proves me wrong, it's a fantastic idea, and a game I like quite a lot, but he already has a track record of lying and fricking up with update schedules, it's clear where this is going.
not reading that shit lol if youre writing that much youre mad. better luck w/the rest of your life bud
>not reading that
Yet another victory
>I'm not though
>Proceeds to write 4 paragraphs
>ESL Ethnic Non-White completely unaware and incapable of understanding what being angry looks like in The English Language
Many such cases.
Based anon
Too long
Too mad
>Too long
>Too mad
You quite literally have not said anything
Nice samegayging
Ironic considering you're the one samegayging the negative replies ESL Troon, you're fighting ghosts, there should be no reason to even be upset.
>"I'm not though?"
>followed by paragraphs of seething
lmao
>Samegays yet another reply
Meds, now
trainwiz? crumbledev?
>secret celebs
>on Ganker
thanks for outing yourself as a 12yo
YWNBAC(elebrity)
>Why haven't you had your "monkey hitting keyboard randomly moment"?
I'm more moronic than monke.
>t. mad unemployed amateur idea guy upset the dev didn't hire him on as a professional idea guy
Every idea guy will be obliterating idealet hacks with AI within the decade anyways, problem?
>market is saturated with ai realized games
>indieslop is now indistinguishable from AAAslop
>gaming finally dies
Excellent idea sir
>AI Will allow us to remake every game that came out in since 2013 and create new ones with little to no ethnic characters, little to no ugly women, little to no pozzed storylines, and gameplay completely suited to our liking
>This will "kill gaming" because AAA devs will go out of business
>This is a problem because ???
Game dev corpos will be the only ones trying to supress and hinder this tech and gaming golden age from happening, if not trying to monopolize/monetize it for their own use.
It will also never happen in your lifetime. At its present state AI can't comprehend fun so it can't determine what makes a game fun in the first place or balance shit out to be fun. At most in the near future you'll have an AI that can churn out a clone of another game filled with random assortments of game mechanics that don't mesh with each other and no semblance of balance or difficulty curve.
AI artwork as it is now is still far from good and highly prone to mistakes. It's going to be a long time before we've got AI can handle the much bigger task of making an entire game.
>It will also never happen in your lifetime
That's where you're wrong bucko, you AI deniers said the same thing about voice AI, art AI, even something like Chat GPT-4
>MUH 1 MORE LIFETIME
Yeah you're wrong, you will always be wrong, you always have been wrong, we're getting that, plus more, plus full dive, as long as you're not an old giga boomer or is getting genocided from the gigavax, we're all gonna be eating good with the AI and VR Slop Kino.
I guess by that point you'll be denying synths or something not happening in your lifetime (when you're 90 lol)
>voice AI
Currently mediocre and has trouble with voice pitches. Generally just sounds like someone reading off a script
>art AI
Currently mediocre. I posted an example of such. Shit can't even make crowbar right.
>At its present state AI can't comprehend fun so it can't determine what makes a game fun in the first place or balance shit out to be fun
Neither can MOST devs. They stumble upon fun completely by accident
I worked with idea guys. Their problem is not that they run away from code, it's that they run away from effort. They will run away from prompt engineering too. Trust me. All they have are excuses. It works great on their minds too. It would never fail. Sure, sure.
>can literally buy a 9/10 child slave from the slums and force them to dress as a furbawd cub
I'm going to harm you
Why tho, i'm not the dev
This is a whole lot of projection
I may be 1 of those things, but I am not 3 of them thoughbeit.
Russoids get fricked
It's not even about russians specifically. He refuses to let literally anyone volunteer to localize his game.
Tough shit
Good. Total localizer death.
What a weird thing to be so rabidly opposed to
>What a weird thing to be so rabidly opposed to
localization != translation
its a perfectly sensible thing to be opposed to
its a huge step from being a solo-dev to managing a team
dev is making the right choice. I don't want some fricker righting on my success
>hire a white guy
>people online start asking why not a black woman
>get cancelled
because management is a shitty, soulcrushing task
If the dev doesn't know Russian, how would he confirm the translation is good and accurate anyway?
This, and if someone offers to do something for free there's usually some ulterior motive.
I don't think that's really true. It's definitely a possibility, but offering to help someone because you really liked their game really isn't something uncommon or hard to understand.
>I don't think that's really true
>It's definitely a possibility
Are you moronic?
>why don't they hire translators for free?
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/cd-projekt-apologises-for-cyberpunk-2077-ukrainian-scripts-potentially-offensive-references-to-russians
I hate slavs so much it's unreal.
>Hey dude can I work on your game?
>No
>DUDE PLEASE LET ME WORK ON IT!!!
>No frick off
>Implying it bugs me that much
Once my magnum opus is at the top of the top sellers list on Steam I'll just buy the rights to his game. Already got the game design, concept art, and level sketches drawn out and most of the story written up. I just need a volunteer coder, level designer, concept artist (already got concept art but I need a concept artist to finalize it), sound designer, and musician and funding for RPG Maker and I'm all set.
Better to not involve anyone. Why bother?
Milk it for all it's worth.
Also see; Valheim
What are we looking at right now? 4 times the dev time it took for Mistlands and not a single update?
Actually hiring people would be much better milking of this game. It comes out to such a little fraction of how much money the dev has made/is making.
Nope. Hiring anyone at all would have him "losing" money.
Just keep crunching away on your own and have your game fade away in a few months instead of actually building something amazing.
Typical moron logic that's applied by majority of people that can't see the bigger picture
>fade away in a few months
Hiring people just to fire them when this eventually happens anyway is a shit move
If these small-time fotm devs hired people and finished their games, people would be engaged for longer, the userbase doesn't gain the negative association with the dev for being a lazy piece of shit and thus they garner more die-hard consumers waiting for next product. Then you make the next game. If it does well, you keep the cycle going. If it does poorly, you either end the game early and try again if game dev is actually your dream or cut and run with even more money than when you otherwise would've made with just the one game.
You'd make even more if you sold the IPs or even the company when you cut and run.
>people would be engaged for longer
Do you have a single source to back that up?
Are you moronic? What fricking source does one need? It's obvious that keeping a game updated makes player engagement go up. Look at TF2 getting some shitty summer hats and breaking their alltime playercount.
Or Half Life beating Starflop.
We are taking about flavor of the month indie games, not about big publisher games with a trillion dollar store front pushing it down your throat.
No matter how much you'd update the game the crowd will always be gone after the 5 minutes are up.
tf2 is bad example because tf2 players have a mix of Stockholm syndrome and sunk-cost fallacy
Every competitive scene does. There are people playing Dark Forces 2 right now.
Yeah and how do you make money off a few extremely dedicated smelly NEETs who refuse to move on?
People played FTL for years but then Into the Breach didn't gain nearly the same popularity.
Papers Please had a pre-release demo and then the full game didn't get many updates at all, yet Return of the Obra Dinn did at least equally well.
Most people are not going to be interested what the next game from a development team is, if Innersloth made a new game that isn't called Among Us 2, it will get the hardcore fans sure, but not the mass public.
>it will get the hardcore fans sure, but not the mass public.
Here's what most people don't understand: Literally no one pays attention to what minor games companies are making/releasing. No one knows what any indie or small company is working on right now, because it doesn't matter. We know what big studios and publishers are doing because they spend a ton advertising it, and every so often you'll hear about a No Man's Sky or something go viral because a big publisher is boosting them up and putting them on stage at shows and shit.
But any game that went viral on the internet, like Among Us or Only Up or Jump King or fricking whatever else is the flavor of the week at some point? No one gives a shit what those developers are doing. People don't know about those games until they open Steam one day and see them on the front page because they're getting sales. Outside of that? Might as well not exist.
Summer time means kids are out of college/high school so they play games, more players.
>>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales
my game barely earned $5,000
how do devs sell so many copies?
Copy Lethal Company, add more content, steal ideas from the idea section on his discord. A good clone always sells more than the original.
Lethal Company is a clone of Phasmaphobia. Phasmaphobia has been steadily developed and iterated upon for 4 years now and still early access with a team of people. They've dropped the ball massively.
Lethal Company takes the best parts of Phasma and Viscera Cleanup Detail and adds a little (platforming in first person is kind of gay, standing on girders over bottomless pits indoors) but the way it's playing out is better than what's been happening to the shittier games
bribe youtubers and streamers to play it
Cheap, multiplayer, low skill floor, epic moments streamer-bait.
High chance of having you set for life with a properly timed release.
Be extremely lucky. That's it. Games that become super popular often come out of nowhere and even if you make something that "should" be popular that doesn't mean it will
This. It took a couple years for Among Us to become an overnight sensation (granted, the devs did work in Henry Stickman, which probably helped)
Not being a dev, I've always felt there's a balance between "making a good game" and "selling heroin to kids".
Eg. Vampire Survivors has gambling game concepts, it's basically heroin for kids.
Lethal Company seems like a game concept that is inherently nice heroin (but will eventually become boring and fotm)
But there's kinds of really good games that just aren't that addictive, that aren't going to get immediate popularity.
You have to find the right balance for you.
That is a really nice perspective. A successful game is very different from a good game. People who want success just need to drill down into the psychology of their playerbase and their aesthetic preferences.
I feel like his big boon was Steam Next Fest and it came at a time just after Baldur's Gate stopped being the hot topic, so now co-op players want something new and this came up.
The key to making a good game is to make dying in it funny.
Good advice. All of the surprise hit indie games have silly ways of dying. I'm going to remember that when I make my own game. I'm going to make deaths extra fricking silly.
Twitch streamers
Make something that catches the attention of streamers
Steam has a lot of factors that influence whether or not your game will be seen by anyone, but some of them include actual, genuine purchase reviews (not codes) and the rating itself determines what lists it gets pushed to (IE: People who wishlist/rate/collect similar titles, wider audiences, etc.).
So the biggest way to make your game a hit is to A.) Make a fricking fun game that people like to play, no matter how basic or barebones it is. As long as it provides some way for people to have fun or it has some significant level of challenge that isn't just moronation, then you're doing good. And B.) You need to sell it for next to nothing, and actively fricking work to fix literally anything and everything that people complain about. You need to answer feedback, implement changes, and encourage people to leave positive reviews (real ones, not fake ones).
If either of those things are too hard or too much work, then you literally don't deserve to make any money creating games.
It is literally just luck. There is nothing more to it, and anyone trying to tell you otherwise is trying to peddle ideology.
There are literally MILLIONS of people out there trying to sell games just like this. Why do you think Lethal Company succeeded? Hard work and determination? Some genuine aspect of its quality?
Even if you accept that it was the right game for the right moment, it is not possible to accurately predict what that game would be. It's the same as playing the stock market; pure gambling wrapped up in the delusion of determinism.
Not even gonna lie, it succeeded because of the hilarious audio and webms that posted and clipped around. It has great comedy. The actual game looks 5/10
To some degree, yes. But that's the type of comedy you can't manufacture. He literally stumbled into success, there is nothing more to it.
it seems like if you just make a game where 4 buddies can frick around the game will go big, there was that squid game knockoff that went huge and I can only it was because it had unmoderated voice chat where everyone was just calling everyone else Black folk
There are literally tens of thousands of "games where 4 buddies can frick around" on steam RIGHT NOW which you have never even heard of.
well yeah that's just emergent behavior which every kusoge relies on in lieu of actual gameplay or story. the streamer personalities fill in the blanks. for whatever reason they chose to play this game instead of many others like it, so the dev makes millions while the others remain unknown.
Like other Anons have said, luck is a major factor, but not just in the game's release conditions. The dev is a 21 year old who has been making Roblox games or something like that for god knows how long. That's years of multiplayer gamedev experience. If you didn't get a computer with internet access and found out about Roblox at an early age, and happened to be creative and driven enough to give a shit, than that door was closed for you. And in the credits for The Upturned, he thanked his mom and dad for support, meaning that he grew up in a loving and supportive nuclear family, which isn't something many people were fortunate enough to experience. Being a native English speaker is also a major boon. In the end, I suggest you don't worry about that. Zeekers is a perfect storm. Instead of lamenting our misfortune, we should try to focus on working with what we are given, no mater how little that is. Because that's all we have.
Damn anon you didn't have to say that at the end
Oh what was the game anon? Hoping you sell more.
Be friends with top 100 twitch streamer and have him play your game with his streamer friends
Honestly having proximity chat and jumpscares just seems like a winning formula. People love that shit in every single incarnation.
It captures this timeless primal fear that people have that they enjoy being chased by something big and scary, and people enjoy skulking around danger trying to remain incognito (Especially without real world danger consequences), it evokes something in us that's exciting. Doing it with friends makes it even more exciting and funny
don't sell yourself short, mine made $50
I believe one of the most valuable points that came out of that moron who got le epic reddit famous for crying he spent the last gajillion years on his unity asset flip game and only sold like 8.5 copies or whatever is that you absolutely should not expect your first project to be successful. It's a trap to start working on 'your epic jrpg rougelite space exploration opera' as your first project. Release proofs of concepts. Set goals of making a quick proof in three months. What can you make in three months and what did you learn about development to do better/more efficiently next time?
This both prevents you from constantly going back and redoing your 'dream game' because you learn you did so much wrong before and gets you an audience/following. You can't just show up one day with your epic game and dump it on Steam after paying the $100 fee or whatever and expect to become famous. You need to have already gotten your name out there with those small proof of concepts, light networking, hopefully getting on the radar of at least semi-popular streamers (I hate the fricks but the reality is if you get your game played by one with an audience of thousands that changes everything).
Streamergay and youtuber influence are the king of Indie game success
Let's players and "le heckin funny momenterinos" youtubers get millions of views daily. If they play your game and have fun, there's millions of people that just got wind of your game and will want to try it out
same way youtubers who talk about nothing go from 100 subs to 10 million subs, pure algorithim luck.
Rigged and fake numbers. israelitetube inflates numbers when people agree to work for israelitetube. Its that simple.
Everythings a scam.
Twitch. That's literally it. I played Lethal Company with 3 other IRL friends and it was fun. But not because the game is good. I had a good time because the game is so fricked that lots of wacky shit happens, and experiencing things like falling through the floor at mission start and then running up a hill that's clipping beneath the floor to escape, and reuniting with your friends is funny. The game itself is beyond awful, it has a couple neat ideas (copied from Gmod) but the execution is as amateurish as you'd expect from an 18 year old furry. This shit NEVER would've gotten as big as it is, 10 years ago. It would've been treated like Garfield Kart at best. ~~*Influencers*~~ have completely shaped the multiplayer gaming landscape.
there's a ton of early access games similar to lethal company on steam. but i think the difference is that most of them go into early access after 6 months to 1.5 years when they are really barebones and uninteresting to look at. you have to credit this kid for going the extra mile and actually making something that draws people in, even if the game itself is exactly what you'd expect from a 21 year old furry roblox creator. evidently he understands how to sell a product in the modern indie game market at least
>make $5000 from organic sales
>use $5000 to pay one big or more smaller streamers/youtubers
>make $10000 from this advertisement
>use $10000 to pay more streamers/youtubers
>make $20000 from this advertisement
>use $20000 to pay more streamers/youtubers
>rinse and repeat ad nauseam
I ain't no Wolf of Wallstreet, but I am fairly certain this is what you should be doing.
>my game barely earned $5,000
be thankful it could have been $0
>be indie game dev
>make hit game
>earn millions
>suddenly hordes of degenerate filth crawl out of the internet b***hing about how you owe them employment, you're obligated to pay them for their stupid gaygo behaviour that they do for free everyday
I'm not b***hing that they owe me or anyone employment. I'm on fricking Ganker, I don't fricking care about employment. I just wanna have regular content for a game I like.
Ffs kids these days
Back in my day you just bought game installed it and played all offline. Updates didnt matter because the game was sold already complete and finished what more do you need?
to hire anyone to work on your game.
incredibly based and this will ensure it continues to be as close to his image as he wants it to be. your tiny woman brain wouldn't understand. you are not capable of creativity if you can not helm a project like this solo.
You're saying this like the fricker made something super crazy original. The game is so heavily inspired by Iron Lung it might as well just be a fanfiction
>heavily inspired by Iron Lung
What
There's a dev blog where he says the game was intended to be played entirely within the ship. This, on top of the terminal, on top of the player being lethally disregarded by a higher entity/company and send to planets with unknown wildlife. Don't act like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat
>Shows a concept that never made it in the final game
>"it might as well be a fanfiction"
Mhm
>was
but its not so shut the frick up
its the most fun and original experience i had in coop with friends since ever and we played phasmophobia and all that and it doesnt even compare
>heavily inspired by Iron Lung
Come on now, it has the same low-poly graphics and that's it. There's nothing else tying the two games together.
refer to
What
I fricked up the quote. I meant to quote
iron lung is shit and this isn't
bro this is not an iron lung specific concept. if anything it's closer to fricking fnaf on a spaceship.
this is such a bizarre cope that i don't even understand what i'm supposed to be arguing against. that it was inspired by something? okay? do you know how art works, moron?
Zeekerss is probably well aware of nightmares like what happened to the guy behind NITW, Alexis Kennedy, and more. And those were guys with teams they'd had for years, being a solo developer suddenly shooting to notoriety practically overnight attracts far worse human garbage looking to profit off of you by becoming part of your "creative team".
Not hiring a team in the first place is a good call for somebody in his position.
he doesn't have to update the game anymore. he's fully within his right to just frickoff with millions and millions of dollars. he's not obligated to build a team to meet demand.
examples of games that built teams to meet 'demand' that end up not being very productive include minecraft and among us.
>omg yaassssss I want to be in on the next big thing!
>no
>reeeeeee just fricking hire me!
I can easily tell which Anons here would be fricking nightmares to handle in a team you money-hungry worms
The only things that matter are the money, the miles, and the minutes, you fricking mark.
>be set for life
>you can do anything as a hobby as long as it's not crashing luxury cars
>people want you to ruin your life and your game "because it could be so much more"
not everything has to be a billion dollar franchise, anon...
>Wanting to latch on dev after success
Lol it doesnt work like that you dumb shitter
It’s a multiplayer game right? Then it should be pretty obvious why he doesn’t want it to be filled with vodkastanians
Pump & Dump is a better idea for a game like this, especially given how much money it made. If they're really passionate about game development, they can use the funds to make something new, or they can just take the money and do whatever with it. Both are fine options.
Hey Ganker
If you are a game dev ITT and you want to make money, here's my suggestion:
Copy Spy Party and sell it cheaper.
>Spy Party comes out years ago
>is still $25 USD for one map
>has never gone on sale
>will never go on sale
>supposedly will cost more when it stops being in early access
>the developer (man famous for ruining Spore's art style) hasn't updated the game in years
>has no touched the official Spy Party socials in years
it's a great concept, it deserves to be executed by someone who gives a shit
Spy Party is not, literally speaking, one map. You may feel that the differences between maps are not substantial enough.
my mistake
What would you add to the game? I'm not enthralled by it but it's hard to say what I would add. More missions, I guess.
Remember to clown emoji every shitter on the discussion page
moron that's exactly what they are looking for because you get Steam Points for every reward you receive. Steam Points is the biggest mistake ever made by Valve.
>oh no my bing bing WAHOO coins
sneed
the steam points are worthless you get so much for every dollar you spend, and you got points retroactively from old purchases when they were added too, you should have more than you could ever possibly need
bro they're free, literally noone is orchestrating posts to farm 7 Gabe coins
Except if you go to the announcements of literally any fricking game announcement, you'll see one of the first few comments is some moron whose entire life is literally posting moronic bait to get steam points.
Surely you mean apart from abandoning the Artifact playerbase?
I still fap to the memory of the Twitch Artifact page streaming hentai porn for days in a row. God what a glorious shitshow that game was.
>noooo don't use the clown face
>it's a gaben conspiracy
Good
You get a clown and I apologize it costs me only my time, for your opinion is so outlandish that it would be worth a meager limited supply of funny money to make my point more clear
:^)
>moron wants people to give them clowns
>you give the moron clowns and proudly declare 'HAHA GET OWNED IDIOT'
What fricking point do you think you're making?
I use the clowns as a gauge of how moronic a person is. I make it a habbit to check every players profile during co-op sessions, and if they collectively have more than 10 clowns I quit the game.
Are you sure that translation part isn't just anti russian autism?
It's not. He's rejected many other language translations, like Spanish and French afaik.
Weird
>It's another moon where everyone dies to one dog because people couldn't shut up about a dog being nearby and it starts a chain reaction
>Singlehandedly ruined the game
I have a vore fetish and have to stifle a moan everytime they grab me in game.
I hate the dogs far more, their bullshit hitboxes drive me nuts
homie can do what he wants
Wow just when those useless woke got mass lay off. What a coincident.
Every additional cook in the kitchen dilutes the master chef's intended vision. Translations are an area you must be especially cautious about.
If this was me i'd just take the money and run. No reason to slave forever on some fotm bullshit. Scott Crawthorn had it right. Sell out! Money = Art
I'd say to work on it just a bit longer in order to keep up some of the hype, since it's getting around to the point where the big streamers and what not are probably at the peak of their enjoyment. If you make 1-2 more updates before pulling the plug (without telling anyone of course), you can keep riding the wave for a tad bit longer and then keep whatever money you have before sales start to drop off.
you answered your own question.
he made at least 21m dollars.
he doesnt have to work a day in his life.
why would he hire?
What happened? I remember it being super fun but now it doesn't feel right
It's bugged to fricking hell because those morons pushed out the biggest update the game has ever had and then went straight to working on the console ports and just outright admitted 'yeah we're not going to focus on bugfixes right now because we're busy'.
Also tier 1 items are miserable to play with, tier 2 are a mixed bag and tier 3s are just easy-mode.
The game felt clunky from the moment it got released. It sucks because the idea and concept is great but it feels like I'm chugging through the game
-Taking one bad photo ruins the match and it's a shitty slop system anyways
-hunts take 100 hours to understand how to survive mechancally and even once you do, it's a trashy gamble in shitty level layouts
-the most rewarding way to play (custom morono difficulty and guessing the ghost with no work) peels all fun out of the game
-once you spend a college class' worth of effort learning all mechanics, its actually a solved game where the only fun is in who you play with and if their illusions haven't been broken yet/they play sub-optimally
dipshit neurotic devs and milquetoast design, no focus on the actual horror part just adding useless fluff like oh wow prestiging progression grind nameplate colors badges. ghosts are fricking boring and it all boils down to is this ghost 5% faster or slower than base speed, not like it matters because they break the game every other patch anyways. just a terrible game that doesn't want to be an asset flip but always will be
The novelty passed.
It had serious downgrades in immersion. Sound doesn't feel right, local chat bugged, lights are wrong and leaking.
Removed volumetric lighting which was giving the game a superb ambiance, removed all the candles in houses as well.
All the fricking "performance" optimisation so that every whiner with crap laptops could play the game has ruined it. Unity fricking sucks.
Still did not deliver on "horror 2.0" which was supposed to add more spooky events to the game, and bring back fear of the ghosts.
FIX THE FRICKING SHOP UI
Guys probably busy doing other things like managing his new scrooge mcduck pile of money.
Once you get that much money inflation becomes a real problem.
You probably lose like 1000 bux an hour.
Gotta scramble to buy shit.
My guess is he's putting a down payment on a house, if not outright buying one, and then putting the rest into savings so he can make game dev. If he tries to buy a big house, taxes are going to eat him alive.
Does he commission things (e.g. texture sets)? That’s what I’d do instead of hiring; it’d be cheaper, less time consuming, and if the result isn’t to my standards I can just not use it.
Again, the end result would not allign with his vission. Also if he comissions from a source he can't just comission from a different one; there would be a complete missmatch of assets and the end product would be complete franken-game made up off entirely different set of assets.
That’s not how things work, all the textures in the game are photo sourced anyway; it’s no different than a manufacturer not owning the factories that produce their raw ingredients.
The point of commissioning instead of employing is that you don’t have to respect what they made, so doesn’t compromise your vision.
>The point of commissioning instead of employing is that you don’t have to respect what they made
>Implying you don't care about the assets you commision
You are legitimately moronic if you think one persons assets are a 1:1 to another persons assets. He can't just commission art from one person, and the go to another person and get the same style and composition. If he commisions someone for art he would then have to rely on that person being available to make more, he can't comission another person and get the same results, and he would then end up with assets that he either can't use, or if he uses them the quality will be missmatched from the rest of his assets.
TL;DR one persons art is not the same as another persons art.
You seem to have misunderstood what I’ve said, you wouldn’t take their results and plop them straight in the game, you’d use them as a basis to save you time. That’s why my example was texture sets, which have been used as such for decades.
another botted trash FOTM
Anon wrong thread, The Baldur's Gate 3 thread is 2 blocks down.
>LOOK MOM he's botting the reviews I SAW HIM, he's BOTTING, I'm going insane help me Black personMOOOOM!
i didnt said anything about reviews tho, discord dev
okay, i checked reviews most bots with 3-3.5 hours of playthrough saying fun, fun with friends, good game e.t.c., nice one, dev
>LOOK MOOOOM, it's le discord user MOOOOOOM!
Yeah sure accept a bunch of free contributions to your game with no ability to verify its content, what could go wrong
Smart move actually, the game is pure fotm and will die soon enough. Hiring people is just bloating and having to pay with some schmucks for months before being legally allowed to fire them without getting sued, to basically work on a soon to be dead game.
Black folk in this thread talking like what he did was so easy.
Ok why didn't you do it too then?
I can't code, you'd be surprised how many creative directors can't code either lol.
bro just get lucky, it's easy. Notch did it. It can't be that hard
Because the main thing you need is sheer luck. There was an extremely high chance that this game would of just flown under the radar and been left virtually untouched.
That would be plausible if there are similar games like it in steam right now that got completely forgotten.
like the dozen backrooms and scp clones?
It was actually like that for the first two weeks. Hell, I remember Ganker talking about Lethal Company in a positive way until early-mid November.
The game is highly derivative, and there are a lot of small successes in this genre. Streamers picking it up is what made this one in particular make money.
>Ok why didn't you do it too then?
The only reason I haven’t made a game like this is that I don’t enjoy them (nor have anyone to play them with). I also don’t like the presentation, but that presentation is one of the things that allowed it to be popular.
>The game is highly derivative
I find your post to be shallow and pedantic.
Do you not agree? Have you not seen any backrooms games, Phasmaphobia and its other clones, or the number of “4 people versus monster” games?
>shallow and pedantic
Perhaps
streamerbait is taking over the indie scene and I don't think I like that.
love how frickless morons like you think any game designed to get any kind of pulse out of people (all of them) are streamerbait. did you know mario party is streamerbait cause it's an rng frickfest with whoa so wacky upsets that people react strongly to and make clips out of????
Disregarded ESL, he's not gonna hire you.
your favorite game is exploitative dopamine farming streamerbait because fun things happen, sorry homosexual
except MP has been around for decades and wasn't obviously made to attract streamers to make money like Lethal Company. That game wouldn't be able to stand on it's own two feet if it wasn't for Twitch Streamers.
>attract streamers
What the frick is the criteria for this? Every time I see a new game release, I always see shit like
>stream bait
>shilled game
gets thrown around on Ganker.
It's what happens on the most sour grapes shithole on planet earth. It is genuinely infested with disgusting third worlders with absolutely no friends who all insist they could totally replicate this if they tried. They're like a completely different species and I think most of them genuinely think and act like that Cris homosexual.
anyone with a brain would realize Ganker is just a feedback loop. it doesn't help shitposting is easy to do
>stream bait
the game is formulaic and reaction bait so of course it'd be great for streaming
>shilled game
morons always b***h about this because anytime something they don't like gains traction and they don't have any obvious ways of making fun of the game. it's just an easy out.
>uhhh you're saying this isn't being shilled? sounds like something a shill would say, hmm?
case in point:
, it's just a guarantee anytime you say something isn't literally the next TORtanic.
>the game is formulaic and reaction bait so of course it'd be great for streaming
It is but that places a lot of games under "streamer bait". There's a lot of games before the 2010s that can be classified as streamer bait
>but isn’t particularly fun outside of this
It is fun with friends for sure. The only recent game that comes to memory that falls under what you said was that Only Up game
>It is fun with friends for sure.
To a point, but this only lasts so long, and any game can be fun with friends.
Good point but to be fair, all multiplayer / co-op games are like that regardless of quality. If Lethal Company wants a steady and active community, the dev needs to be consistent with content updates as well as add features that promotes longevity. We just have to wait and see.
A game is streamer bait if it puts people into situations which are entertaining to watch, but isn’t particularly fun outside of this.
imho it's about getting the reaction from the player (streamer), stuff like getting bounced around just to end up getting insta-killed by spikes in Spelunky or getting spooked in horror games
because streamers didn't exist back then you dumb fricking c**t. people will always play coop games together.
>social game is social NO WAY IM SO SMART LOL
let me guess bro you think g4 and mlg were the good old days because it's not that newfangled twitcheroo cancer?
Yes you fricking zoomer.
This guy is autistic and has made multiple games on top of shit in Roblox all by 21, it's not like this was a one and done thing and he was going to just make more games regardless of its success because he's actually passionate unlike most of this site
>talking like what he did was so easy
He made the game in under 2 years while living with is parents and not having to a full time job or going to college/university. So yes, relatively speaking, it was easy. And it's not like the models and music are stunning either, they are just good enough.
>Be indie dev
>make bank off of a decent social horror game like phasmophobia did before me
>some discord troon wants to offer a translation that I cannot verify because I do not speak russian, and I want to avoid a whole Ubuntu 23.10 Ukranian Translation incident type deal
>wouldn't hire anyone from discord to begin with, even if their credentials were solid, it sounds like an invitation for subterfuge and drama like with most discord subhumans who crave any kind of power over a project
>some moron complains on Ganker about it, as if that'd be enough to change my mind and go "yes, I will share a cut of my 21m to pay someone who will be not only an entirely separate person to manage that takes time away from working on the game, but also a person to wrangle for PR reasons in case they get caught trying to frick a minor as discord strangers tend to do"
You're out of your goddamn mind OP, if I was the lethal company dev I would have every right to tell you to go frick yourself. Not to mention too many cooks in a kitchen spoils the meal, just look at AAA games.
>Ubuntu 23.10 Ukranian Translation
qrd?
Frankly I don't give the slightest frick if you do a "heckin' hate speecherino" personally but it's still a PR disaster to manage that I'd rather not.
Alright that's based, i expected seething about russians like in cyberpunk
>linuxtards constantly try and prove that they're smarter than windows users
>can't spot an obvious troll
Hahahaha
>english: to update your ubuntu installation, run 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
>ukrainian: TO PREVENT FOREIGNERS FROM BREAKING INTO THE COMPUTER, UPDATE IT, RUN THE COMMAND 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' AND REMEMBER THAT THE MICROSOFT israelite MUST NEVER BE TRUSTED, DON'T BE A homosexual, UPDATE YOUR COMPUTER REGULARLY
>>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales (estimate based on likelihood of users leaving reviews)
to hire anyone to work on your game.
Why the frick would he need to hire anybody if he already created a game himself that made him rich?
He can just use AI, why would he need to hire anybody?
Same reason why FNAF and Undertale continues to be a success. they're smart to not let boneheads in to ruin what they worked hard on.
Deltarune has fangame guys developing it though
>Same reason why FNAF
it's porn. fnaf is 100% still relevant because of all the porn.
Deltarune has an entire devteam, moron. And it hasn't stopped Toby Fox's creative vision from being kept. If anything, it made his vision better. He's implemented ideas from his devs.
I never mentioned deltarune because I don't know shit about that game nor do I care. I said UNDERTALE because I know he solely made that and translated it in various languages by himself.
My point is that I don't see any "boneheads" ruining deltarune. Toby Fox is an obvious example that you can hire people and make your game however the frick you please.
Dude, we've been waiting for chapter 3 for years.
At this rate it'll take longer to release it than it did to make Undertale.
You think a bigger dev team isn't slowing this down?
While I don't disagree with you (yet), because one of those based Devs convinced Toby to keep The Original - one of them was also responsible for the three worst characters and part of chapter 2. I wouldn't lie and say I'm not scared, because the further delta progresses the more opportunity others will have to frick with the vision
Russians are fricking subhumans who ruin every online game they taint. I wouldn't give them a translation either.
how do people actually like *all* these multiplayer shooters? i am not a fan of shooters period, so seeing the glut of shooters feels me with the SURVIVAL-CRAFTING-OPENWORLD-EARLYACCESS sort of dread
it seems that the genre is an everlasting spring, since apparently even supermassive aaa games can't even push out all the fotm games out of the market
is it kinda like sportsball games, which capitalize on casuals who don't otherwise play anything else?
That ain't a shooter THOUGH
>average moron who b***hes about fotm doesn't even know what the games he complains about even are
well, it's not a shooter, or a survival-crafting-openworld game, for starters.
next you gonna tell him to buy your shit to check
It's not a shooter and theres no crafting you moron
You b***h about the game but you know literally nothing about it
What do you even do in this situation? Solodev lucks onto a hit but has no management skills or the like.
Is there like someone you can hire to turn your nobody self into a half-decently structured company with a manager that'll take care of all the soft skills you suck at?
Or do you just sprint to the nearest publisher and sell out immediately so they can deal with all this shit?
I feel like trying to half-ass it on your own is a recipe for many many disasters at once.
They're shopping for a horse. The profile picture even says it all.
Lmao I actually found out about that these days. It was a hearty kek
Because with that amount of cash you have life on easy mode. Hiring people means being liable for other people and being sued for everything you have if you turn out to be piss poor at managing things.
If you can handle all the work load yourself why the frick would you bother hiring anyone?
The average anon doesn't know shit about development. Just look at how many posts repeat the mantra that "devs are lazy" without no thought to the business incentives at play or the dynamics involved during any type of software development. If you ever had to suffer to remove an idiotic anti-pattern from a page or implemt features you didn't understand why were needed you know exactly what I'm talking about.
He clearly can't handle all this fricking work himself, given that he's missed two update deadlines he set for himself and announced. Come the frick on, anon.
Have you considered he doesn't give a frick about deadlines that only morons who already paid him are holding him accountable for
>Hire people
>Once they outnumber you they vote you out of your company
>or force you out with a canceling for being a creep and the votes of a public opinion
>Big players buy the ip for pennies
Wow.
It's almost as if capitalism is a trap intended to consolidate all ownership and power into the hands of the few economic elite?
No no no it isn't YOU MUST GROW GROW GROW!! PURSUE GROOOOOWTH!!!!
>fringe cases represent the majority
OOOOOOOOOH
IM IM
IM GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWING!!!!!!
Good bait.
Capitalism promotes the breaking up of large companies, because that leads to less money being “wasted” (on things like research).
So you're saying despite hitting the jackpot you'd put all your winnings in on achieving the same outcome to get more money. Smart. He should hire you to handle the finances
Comparing updating a succesful game to the jackpot is possibly one of the most fricking moronic comparisons I've ever fricking heard. I think this website actually fricking gives me brainrot.
The success of the game is the jackpot, hiring people to update it is doubling down. not sure where you got lost in this extremely simple analogy.
>random fotm unityslop
>makes 6 million dollars
>by one guy
>who is 21
This is fricking bullshit, I have more talent than this cumwad yet no one ever notices the things I make
I just want enough to get a nice house and fund some autistic incredibly niche products
Where's my 6 million dollars?
Where? I want it! I WANT IT NOW!
I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!
Always. Be. Shipping. That's the secret. Unfortunately I can't do this either, it seems. That's why we fail.
I have made a 3 or so hour long platformer with a bunch of characters for free but almost no evidence that anyone has played it
and no you can't know what it's called
sucks that if you're serious you're too much of an insecure womanbrain wondering why they're failing when you're too ashamed to even post it. like you know it's worthless dogshit and everything you do is bred in mediocrity
>but le Ganker is cancer they dont deserve it
aren't you better than them in your head though bro?
It's not about that last part
Also it will just get made fun of because the graphics are ms paint sovl
People won't pay for this. Think about scale. A MP game means you can't play by yourself. Atmosphere is important. Gimmicks. Steal from successful projects and go read suggestions on Reddit/Steam. Drop the platform, go with FPS low poly.
just put more points in LCK bro
The invisible hand of commerce and markets rewards those who are worthy.
Obviously; you are not worthy.
Time for you to serve those who are. It is your place. Thems the rules of the game. Accept it.
>I have more talent than this cumwad
Do you? I'm not trying to be smug, I'm seriously asking he. He does:
>Art
>3D models
>Programming
>Music
>Sound design
>Level design
>Writing (okay, his writing is ass, but it still worth mentioning)
That's a lot of skills, even if most of them are not developed that far. Can you do all of those things.
it's not even that he did all of those things, because you can become passable at those things with a bit of practice. imo it's more that doing all that stuff is a ton of work. he must have had a ridiculous pace developing this game. normal people are going to have second thoughts after the first 3 months while this dude just did 3 years of solo dev on pure faith alone. how is anyone supposed to compete with autistic roblox furries in game dev
The flash in the pan will not last long enough to justify the recurring cost of keeping staff on a payroll.
This is an indie game. Remember.
It hits big and then it fizzles out, it has made its money already. It's just costs now until the project is finished and there is no hurry with that anymore. Might as well do it well, slow and cheap.
Making millions as a solo dev and then hiring a whole team to work on something that may or may not continue to pull in money would be fricking stupid
No! You don't understand! There must be growth! YOU MUST GROW! IF YOU AREN'T HUSTLING YOU ARE BUSTING!
"A whole team"
You hire like 4 dudes at 100-150k annual and literally frick off to do anything else. Or if you are so moronic that you actually care about your lame game you hire 2 guys and direct them explicitly. You don't hire 20 homosexuals with an entire corporate structure for a game of this size and complexity.
In the context of this game, there is little else for them to do aside from adding way more monster types and different world generations, but that would only buy the game another 6 months at least. Dev can pull that off on his own, otherwise once the next 3 weeks passes this game is already off the radar as the streamers/tubers move on.
>earn enough money to be able to be a neet for the rest of your life
>know that your game is a FOTM and will die as soon as streamers are bored of it
there is no point in wasting money on extra devs when he can just cash out now and live comfortably doing whatever the frick he wants.
jews and trannies always want to work for free so they can ruin your shit from the inside
based dev
Its over, modders will be the ones keep the game alive
Just like my Bethesda games. ;^)
This is actually not a bad thing.
All games should go open source once the devs have made their money and want to move on to other projects.
The dev wins, he is free, the community wins, their game will stay up to date as long as there is a community around playing it.
>make game open source
>trannies do whatever they want with it
no thanks, at least there's still a technical barrier when it comes to mods
Have you ever play a Bethesda game?
>make millions from your lemonade stand it cost you 5 dollars to set up
>spend your millions on opening lemonade franchise with all of the overhead involved
It's a true inspiration to see your brilliant minds at work Ganker
Having never heard of this zoomer trash, I assumed it must be EA, which makes perfect sense why he wouldn't want to hire anyone. I checked and I was correct. Why the frick would he want to have people join him when he's going to rug pull everyone in a month or two when the game "suddenly" stops getting updates? That old EA scam has happened literally hundreds of times at this point.
>between 21m and 61m USD
Why did no one on this moron circlejerk board point out this guy doesn't even know math
What’s the problem?
He made 2M so far.
How do you know this? Worst case scenario should be 4 million after taxes, assuming his review count isn’t wildly disproportionate.
I'm using my imagination with no regards for reality.
They say something like 1/10 people review. Its 15 bucks. So you could estimate it's around 15million aud which is like 10million usd. It's a decent overestimation
>They say something like 1/10 people review.
Nowhere near that many people review games.
OP here. The lower boundary is generally assumed to be 1 out of 30 people leaving a review, with higher boundaries being anywhere between 50-90. My lower boundary supposes the former, and does not take into account regional pricing. 10$ x 0.7 steam cut x 100000 reviews x 30 which makes it 21 million dollars.
The upper boundary was 63, but I think I forgot to multiply it by steam cut, so it'd be something more like 43 million dollars. I was sleep deprived when I made the post. It's still a frickton of money.
Of course there's a lot of leeway for regional pricing, but the game got 10k reviews between yesterday and today. The margins will sort themselves out sooner than later. Even if you suppose the game was sold exclusively in Russia (where it's at its lowest price at 4.22usd a pop) it's still 7 million dollars at the lowest and 13 million dollars at the highest. It's safe to assume my lower boundary is probably quite close to the actual number.
>troons seething they can't get the big bucks and ruin his game
very based
>Refuse to hire anyone to work on your game
there's a difference between not hiring people and rejecting offers from randoms who want to work on the game. if he wants music made or more assets or whatever he can say as much and look through applications.
>you HAVE to hire MEEEEEEEEEE!!1!
Frick off, the arrogance of these c**ts thinking they're owed anything
When the frick did anyone say that? I said I was upset about the game lasting a lot less than it could. Some of you Ganker gays are actually just like the Twittards, completely misinterpreting sentences. Holy shit.
did you reply to the wrong post
No. I'm OP
it looks to me the guy you replied to was talking about the discord troon in the attached picture not whatever was in your post
Maybe. It's just annoying that a lot of people seem to attack my point, making it about communism. Or even about me wanting a job, as if I weren't currently on Ganker. It's fricking moronic
homie if I made 10 million bucks cash I wouldn't do frick all that didn't personally interest me for the rest of my life.
>if you make a large amount of money you need to spread that wealth
frick off commie scum
>He doesn't wanna work with anyone
Based and understandable
If you don't speak English you shouldn't play video games. Why cater to subhumans?
Just heard about this game now. Is it worth picking up if I have no friends?
>millions of stupid fricking children and austitic grifters messaging you at all hours of the day asking to do X or Y for money
>tell them all to frick off
I KNEEL
anon be like
>dev is based for not doing translations because it has "trans" in it
>long term investment
Black person you already have 21m at minimum
>Why, anons?
Because dev is a furry that has been doing some decent horror indie project on his own for quite a while
He doesn't owe you anything.
>halloween
I thought this game came out last week when everyone started spamming it on streams.
This guy has made several games on his own that are all bangers.
He doesn't need help he knows what he's doing.
>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales (estimate based on likelihood of users leaving reviews)
>refuse to hire anyone to work on your game.
Sounds like a very valid strategy, you already hit gold, why bother setting up a structure just to drain it away?
Especially when in the streamers' ecosystem, being mods friendly will take care of the long term longevity of your game.
Hell yeah I'd definitely trust some strangers to work on my stuff for free "no strings attached"
Dude probably doesn't wanna deal with any bullshit stress or drama from hiring someone to work on their game.
You are moronic
reminder to indie devs: at any given time, your fellow coworkers may kill you and suffer no consequences
>make popular game
>try to hire anyone
>literally flooded by garbage because everyone wants a piece of your pie
Geee, I wonder why he does not want to hire anyone.
Aside from what everyone else said, why would you WANT it to support Russian language? I'm unfamiliar with the game in the OP but generally they're extremely prone to cheating and also pirate literally everything, you'd gain nothing.
Let's take a moment to remember the real king of indie devs. Lethal Slopany is a tiny ~~*fun with friends*~~ game with okay-ish assets, while Stardew Valley is a full length singleplayer game with amazing art and music.
>amazing art and music
lol, but it's good to see his success
mad respect to eric
whenever I see a picture of this guy my legs start kneeling on their own
The difference is one is a FOTM and the other is not.
Starisraelite is just harvest moon but with shit tier aesthetics
I watched this video on him the other day, and I respect his autism. Being a solo game dev is like signing a pact with the devil; you go all in or you fail.
>be a solo dev
>your game blows up in popularity
>you get frickin rich
>refuse to hire/contract anyone else and keep all the cash for yourself
>even if your game frickin dies, you still get to keep the cash, you're still the only one who will be doing whatever the frick you want with it
>trannies who are used to do nothing and get paid for it so they could afford HRT for free think this is a bad thing
based dev, I'd do the same if my game was this successful, frick freeloaders who will only vacuum money and do nothing but make it all worse
>NOOOOOOO, YOU HAVE TO TRANSLATE IT, YOU HAVE TO LET ME READ IT IN MY NATIVE TONGUE
Lmao, get fricked, ESLs, it's English only for you from now on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month
please read
What is this game like and can I play it solo?
Also is it community host based or dedicated?
>want to be solo dev
>can't draw for shit
>refuse to hire anyone because Steam + shit country already eat 55% of my revenue
/v/ros, tell me how to learn how to draw non shit pixel art. I'll dump 2 redeemed keys in a thread once the game is finished
>pixelshit
I will not even pirate your slop now.
Then teach me how to fricking draw. This is the best I can do
I will not. I am not developing pixelslop in the first place, market is oversaturated with that shit. Same for lowpoly shit.
Just use AI, dummy, it can shit out pixelslop for your with ease
I tried, but I ended up with some cursed ass shit. I genuinely can't generate pixelshit. Also, won't I get eaten alive for using AI slop assets on my shitty game that no one will play?
Shit, I can't even AI generate a fricking text logo
>>can't draw for shit
I tried that book since you guys memed it so hard and got filtered by it. I don't want to draw funny noses, I just want to fricking draw
then DRAW
its a roblox tier game he doesnt need more people
The game is finished and making money now jut kick back light a smoke and relax
>refusing to hire troonylators
The game is homosexual shit but good for him.
>no!!! What do you mean you're not greatly increasing your operating costs to take advantage of being a fleeting internet fad?
>don't you know you're meant to upscale as fast as possible then sellout and die due to the overhead?
>what do you mean you're content to just use the money to fund yourself forever? Aaiiieeeee!
>>what do you mean you're content to just use the money to fund yourself forever? Aaiiieeeee!
this is what braindead trannies don't get
he's a solo dev and his game generated tens of millions of dollars due to his efforts and his efforts alone, he doesn't need anyone else, he's already more than set even after his game will reach the peak of FOTM
I mean, frick, dude has earned much more than 90% of other successful solo devs, and those solodevs tried expanding and wasting resources on it only for it to be for nothing
With that sort of money I'd retire and make hobby games with no target audience forever. Just good games that are only fun to a specific type of person with no compromises. Shit would be do cash.
He should hire programmers because all they have to do is "make monster do X"
Their opinion wouldn't matter in this case.
Then he's free to keep his creativr vision pure.
>wants to do this thing completely free
Just make a mod then you moron.
Also based dev for not falling for any "free" hires with "no strings attached" scammers.
The cope & seethe from failed indie devs in this thread is hilarious. Your game didn't fail because you were "unlucky", it failed because nobody was interested in playing it because it didn't seem fun. Lethal Company is a technically bad game; it has bad animations, bad graphics, barebones gameplay, but it doesn't matter because it's fun to play with a group of friends. That's all anyone gives a shit about. Make something that's genuinely fun for people to play with their friends and they will play it. Singleplayer games are way harder to succeed with.
Anons are just assmad that they didn't think of making an extraction horror game first.
Based.
He know he'll never make a hit like this ever again so he took the money and never has to work a single day in his life.
>teehee I'm totally willing to work for free!
That's like a cop saying "I'm totally not gonna write a ticket, I'm honestly just curious to know how fast you were driving xD!!"
>nooooooooooooo you have to ALWAYS expand and grow eternally
>60 million dollars wont last you forever you know, you have to reinvest it and possibly lose it on a second game that might flop
>you cant just keep developing your golden goose game in the same conditions that made it succesful in the first place!!!
Some people are mentally ill
>Dev promises weekly content updates
>Makes millions and decides to frick off instead
>This is a good thing because Ganker troons are constantly pushing for "Boring game good", "contentless game good" "old game good" instead of the opposite which is far more centered in reality
Kys
*farts on your post*
Played More Company with some friends earlier.
The chaos of having 10 people try to form a coherent and logical team was great.
>WTF WHY WONT THIS ARTIST MAKING SOMETHING THEY CARE ABOUT HIRE RANDOM PEOPLE AND DIVERSITY CONSULTANTS WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR VISION
>WHY AREN'T THEY COMPROMISING THEIR CREATIVITY TO EXPAND THE GAME POINTLESSLY AND BLOAT IT WITH FEATURES
>WHY WON'T THIS RACIST TRANSLATE THE GAME INTO MY HILLBILLY DIALECT AND MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO ME
Absolutely based, eat shit.
Probably wanted people to stop bothering him on twitter avout helping with his game
If you're so smart at running a project, why haven't you succeeded yet when they have?
Couldn't the dev in theory commission someone to make him art assets for levels/monsters/items without having the need to credit them in his game? I'm not sure how much time that stuff takes up when you're a single dev compared to programming and implementation but it sounds like a middle ground to speed things up.
But why do you need to speed things up at all?
Not him but because when you are a FOTM you do need to be releasing some sort of content regularly to keep interest up and milk it while interest is up, nothing wrong with wanting to speed things up a little and keep people's interest going. See Valheim as an example of resting on your laurels and not doing shit for like 2 years after striking gold, they wouldve made more if they had kept some sort of updates going.
That is assuming he wants more money/keep interest up, which is up to him.
Why do you need to milk it when you have more money than you could ever hope to spend?
How does this even begin to sound logical to you? You are ill. Philosophically ill.
>Why do you need to milk it when you have more money than you could ever hope to spend?
Because I'm not him? I wouldnt personally, but this is his game, if he wants to make more money he would do well to speed up, if he doesnt he can keep going, but there is an argument for "speeding up" if he does want more.
He might want 100m to fund a dream game or has a 100m quote to turn himself into an actual wolf or whatever furries spend their money on, thats their busieness
>Why do you need to milk it when you have more money than you could ever hope to spend?
The more money you have the more you can spend it on, because the possibilities are now way more.
If you are someone that actually makes things, like someone that actually went through with making their dream game, you are normally someone with ambitions and dreams, and having 40mil means that now you can follow more of them. It sounds like "more money you could ever hope to spend" because you have nowhere near that money, if you did, you would see how its not.
>they would have made more
Capitalism has people so mindfricked. People who are never going to sniff the money this dude just made sitting there acting like they know better. Have you ever created anything in your life beyond maybe a kid and some shitty report in work?
>Capitalism has people so mindfricked.
It's like whenever you hear people declare a game a flop cause it didn't sell a gorillian copies.
This is the mindset capitalism breeds
Enough is quite literally, never enough.
Budgets are so fricked that AAA garbage tends to need to sell a gorillion copies to break even.
Which is awkward because it means you need to sell the game to EVERYBODY. Which means the game is for nobody - only really good for low-effort time wasting. This is why AAA games are garbage. And it's why they're flops if they only sell as many copies as the global population.
The take-away is ultimately the same: the world would be a better place if rich people were happy to just be rich, rather than richer-than-rich.
I was more referring to people declaring smaller budget stuff a flop cause it didn't do GTA numbers. But that is also a massive problem with how over inflated budgets are.
But that's also true for all media, look at movies where a Marvel movie costs more than the GDP of entire nations.
>implying it needs a middle ground to speed things up
What is wrong with you dumb fricks? If you're going to make stupid assertions at least try to justify them.
>people said he was a furry and he has a yeen avatar
Based
If you earn 21m to 61m dollars in revenue in a short space of time with a single dev, why the frick would you want to start hiring people to expand the project? That can only be diminishing returns on investment vs profit.
It would also mean the development gets messy, bloated and out of his control
this is your brain on capitalism
why does everything have to be an opportunity to make money, why can't you just do something because you wanted to do it
Sounds based
Why the frick would you willingly pay someone just to frick with your creation
The virgin Zeekerss vs The chad MrDrNose
Figuratively who
Bro is probably orchestrating a fursuit orgy with a bunch of prostitutes as we speak now that his millions have come in (Steam pays you at the end of the month)
Isn't his personal life fricked now? I can only imagine there's a lot of hoops involved when your bank notices you're suddenly bringing in dozens of millions of dollars out of nowhere, let alone everyone he knows wanting a slice like lottery winners.
>Isnt his personal life fricked now
Yes I'm sure his life has taken a massive turn for the worst as he's transitioned from an indie game dev autistic furry working on a solo project to an overnight millionaire. That can only mean bad things for him socially.
Earning money isn't illegal as long as you properly pay your taxes.
Why do you think his bank would be upset, do you think they don't know what kind of business Steam is?
>out of nowhere
do you think banks never have to deal with software developers or something? is the idea of having to file taxes a titanic task to you? fricking christ this board is reaching sub 40 IQ
Big issue I can foresee is not setting yourself up as a business for favorable tax rates before making all that money. Since he's basically a kid I doubt he had the foresight to do that and now will be paying hundreds of thousands more in taxes than he otherwise could have avoided with a business entity passthrough.
Dude was living with his parents before all this and probably could get guidance from them. Even if he didn't, a 21 year old with 30 million dollars instead of 31 million still has every door in life open to him. It's up to him if he uses it to continue growing, becomes a neet until he dies or blows all of it on yachts, mansions and hookers until he blows his brains off
>put 5 million in something like TFLO that pays monthly interest
>would make about $22,000 a month in dividends, every month
>quarter million dollar "salary" for doing absolutely nothing
It's AMAZING that people with 5+ million dollars ever go bankrupt or become poor again like lottery winners. It is so unbelievably easy to stay wealthy when you get that sort of money and what I just described is the most lazy and likely inefficient use of 5 million dollars and look at it. Hopefully someone is around to advise him correctly.
you're right. You can have a good start in life with as low as 2mil. Just buy some property with it and rent it out. Done, you're set for life. If you get too bored, get a part time job too.
>why doesnt he just invest in [random fund that has been doing well but will totally continue to do well forever]
>I mean if he just travels in time and invests this money on it 5 years ago it wouldve been stable which proves you can trust it forever
Its always so simple to invest other people's money
TFLO is a bond fund that purchases US Treasury Notes and the interest the US Government pays is transferred to you, minus a 0.15% fund fee. It's guaranteed income, unless the US Government collapses. Shut the frick up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>Give a million dollars to an investment fund
>Never have to work again
It's literally that simple. You don't even have to be smart to have your money make money, it's people's jobs to do that
Dont you still have to pay taxes on capital gains so the 22k is actually 11k or something like that? When you factor in taxes the returns on these things always seem pretty underwhelming.
US Government interest payments are not considered 'capital gains'. They are also exempt from all state taxes. The only tax you owe on US Treasury payments is federal income tax. That's why it's a very advantageous investment avenue.
Black person, how the frick are 11k/month of additional income are not enough for you? This is literally your free money till the end of the U.S. You're still alive, you still have your skills, you still have all of your time. Which means, that, YES, you can make even more money/pursue other goals/create other projects and still get your 11k a month on top. How fricking moronic are you?
It seems like its free money, but it probably doesnt outpace inflation at that rate, so you are actually still losing money, just slowly. At that point Id rather invest in real estate as one thing I can trust on is that we will probably keep overpopulating more and more and space will be at a premium.
>It seems like its free money
it's not *free* money, you have to invest for it. there are still risks, as usual. if ww3 starts tomorrow and wash d.c. is nuked, you're fricked.
>but it probably doesnt outpace inflation at that rate
it does, because it's waaayy more money than you will personally need to eat/sleep/work/drive on a monthly basis.
Even if you want to micromanage the shit out, that's fine, invest in other stuff too, obv.
>so you are actually still losing money, just slowly.
yeah, but probably irrelevant at that point, because it will be enough for the rest of your life. 10k a month will still be a decent amount of money per month to live alone in 10-20 years time. As in, not the minimum wage. Also, member, you're not limited to 10k. Because you've only ever invested 25% of your worth into that. You still have other revenue streams.
>At that point Id rather invest in real estate as one thing I can trust on
yes. also a good option. buying land is smart.
let me elaborate a bit further. The average monthly income is a bit less than 5k usd. With 11k, you are getting more than twice as much.
Your additional montly income stream alone is more than twice as high as 51% of human beings in the FIRST world have.
>additional montly income
>additional
Black person, see
. Im not gonna keep being a wageslave if I have that kind of money, so I would rather my money worked a bit more for me.
Literally pay taxes and tell no one about your wealth
Yeah man, suddenly making millions overnight is such a burden. That's why I only have 8 dollars in my bank account
The game is shit but now he has a hoard of autists desperate to force thier fingers into the orbit of the game, for many different reasons.
He doesn't owe em shit and who cares if some rat wants to translate his shit for free, maybe he doesn't want the rat anywhere near his shit.
Sad autistic do this to themselves.
His game is basic garbage made for morons and children, I hope he takes the money and runs.
he might actually have the self-awareness to know his game is a FOTM game that will be forgotten by christmas. doesn't make sense to spend a bunch of time and resources hiring people who aren't going to be able to contribute anything substantial before this game falls out of memory in the next week or two when streamers move on to something else
>translate game into Russian
>fanbase immediately devolves into furhomosexualry
gee I wonder why he said no
Why are so many furries russian? Whats the cultural correlation
But the dev is a furry
People keep saying that but if it was true he would have 100% put furshit in the game, furries don't have the ability to not shove their fetish in everyones faces
>if it was true
>furries don't have the ability to not shove their fetish in everyones faces
anon, I...
https://twitter.com/ZeekerssRBLX
Well guess I am wrong, for now I guarantee in a future update he will put furshit in the game
2 more weeks for sure
The game has vore and quicksand
And neither of those have to do with furries in the game
Based dev. I wouldn't hire anybody either. Frick them. If I'd go full self-employed and had a need to relegate some of the tasks, it would be some office paper work and taxes. I can do those myself too, but those are very time consuming, whenever you have other duties. I'd also probably straight up hire part-time a retired family member with experience to do it.
Basically lamebrain children need to dispose of their opinions on business and management, really just sounds embarrassing
>earn between 21m and 61m
I retire for life? Even a third of the lowest estimate would suffice.
>indie dev makes game
>game has big success
>typical publisher israelites and devs try to get their filthy hands on your product to get a cut
Dev was based, frick anyone trying to "help".
His game doesnt need publishing or a team to work on it considering the massive success.
Now watch people try to make Lethal Company clones inclysing AAA dev teams.
>you simply MUST HIRE ME AND PAY ME TO WORK ON YOUR GAME
lmao
>Be indie dev
>Make good game
>Earn a bunch of money
>Suddenly hundreds of 80 IQ money-grubbers crawl out of the woodworks
>Gibsmedat money mang
>"No"
Based dev BTFOing bottom feeders
Let me guess, you are a troon seething that you can't infiltrate his team and nepotism in all your troon friends until the game is homosexual garbage?
>kid quits school during lockdowns to work on games with the full support of his parents
>releases a moderately successful indie game, gathering a small following
>goes on to make a social multiplayer game that becomes successful on word of mouth alone
>crabs in the Ganker bucket froth and foam at the sight of a young man becoming successful from his own work
>would rather believe its all a psyop in order to not feel bad about their own inadequacy
>Plz led me trunzlate to russian cyka cyka Putin vodka!
In his place, I would refuse to let my game translated to russian even if somebody would pay me for that.
How simple your world must be if you think it's all that easy
>why isn't he opening himself up to potential grifters (in the actual sense not the youtube one) stealing his work
So I guess this will never get translated to japanese so my favorite streamer korone can play it
he knows its a fotm so hes sitting on his pile like some kind of treasure goblin
hes doing the right thing, frick other people
he already made it. he won the game called Life.
there is no reason to work on the game or add anything else. it's a streamer FOTM bait and will drop off in popularity soon.
the best next move in this situation would be hiring a finance manager and disappearing from the internet.
>have millions of dollars
>ah yes i should totally still have a 8-5 job
what makes people think like this?
Work ethic and social interaction
>Work ethic
israeli concept
>social interaction
imagine socializing only at work
imagine not working remotely
>israeli concept
frick that.
>imagine socializing only at work
>imagine not working remotely
Black person, you've just contradicted yourself. If you're sitting in your basement 24/7 anyway, you're not socializing. Saying hello to an ancient neighbour lady whenever you crawl out to pick up your grocery delivery is not socializing. Assuming ofc you live in a proper house in a proper area, not fricking renting a smelly unit in an ant colony.
no one said anything about sitting in the basement 24/7. all im saying you don't have to work to socialize like someone claimed above
why not? you do understand that you 8-5 job will not actually be 8-5 and you'll be in another position? You're not likely to be hired at a minimum wage or below minimum wage at your local McDonalds. Chances are you start your own business and your "8-5" will look different to those wageslaves. Also, it'd not be wageslaving, because your business making money for you is your primary interest.
Why bother with it at all? Well, if you have passive income from multiple sources and have nothing to do in your life, you might aswell do that for lulz. Just not to be in your basement forever alone.
>Just not to be in your basement forever alone.
literally nothing wrong with that
>Just not to be in your basement forever alone
You can do stuff with your life that isnt work, you know? Rich people that dont work take up golfing, join country clubs, or do memes like joining submarine communities or whatever autistic interest they might have, you dont HAVE to work to socialise
>literally nothing wrong with that
absolutely nothing wrong with that. If you're a kind of person, who is able to enjoy solitude, revels in peace and quiet and slighty hate other human beings (misanthrope). Like I am.
Most people, however, and it'll be a revelation on Ganker, are not like that. Some homosexuals become depressed if they can't interact with other people for more than 3 hours.
Why he would need to do anything at all? If anything this can be another Vampire Survivor scenario, people now have a formula, so if they want to participate they just need to make their own game instead of trying to leech from the patient zero
He wants to make the game on his own, then let him, damn. Why does he have to suddenly hire a team for? To create constant content for you to consume and then get bored of?
The smartest thing the repulsive troony furry freak could do is just sell the game.
The game is very unlikely to hold momentum. If he made 40M on the game, it's unlikely he will make another 2M on it. But he could sell the game for 40M or more and rip off whoever bought it as they will never make the money back.
>NOO HIRE YOU ME CHOOOOD, I WANT TO SUBVERT AND DEMOLISH YOUR COMPANY!
this, he'd be facing rape accusations within a week
he already has more money than he will ever need
not everyone is a israelite obsessed with getting more and more money when they dont need it
>Why, anons? I know damn well if I were in charge, I'd be hiring people as a long term investment. It's only a fraction of the money the game has made/stands to make.
and you'd be the moron, because when you're a multimillionaire from an indie game you've reached your peak and any further spending is burning money
>Telling russians to frick off
I dunno. Sounds like based to me.
>muh free translations if you work with me
Or he can just make an alternative load dialogue from CSV/JSON and cut out the middle-man.
>hire team
>spend time and money making big update
>everyone has already moved on to the next FOTM and no one gives a shit any more
Why even bother putting in the effort? It is still gonna take time to update shit even with a team.
Less paperwork, less israelite taxes, no drama, and less chances of having his employees leaking critical data or saying stupid shit on twitter that would ruin the dev's reputation.
Indies stay winning, total AAA and journo death.
All that's need is israeliteson Schrieieerererer to write an expose on the evil zoomer not 'giving back' to the dev community ecosystem by hiring gay disabled nonwhites to complete this situation.
Based visionarychad. Hiring other people will inevitably frick over you, especially people who do it for free cause they will often require another form of compensation like pushing their own agenda into your work.
FOTM low effort garbage. KUSOGE
He's right.
He's not doing anything of value here, it's just the fad of the month that youtubers play in front of their 7-12 year old audiences. He's basically won the lottery and if he's smart he'll retire now.
This idea of building careers on top of something that goes viral reminds me of a father in my country who sold everything to invest in his son's singing career, because the oldfart was too dumb to realize that the success of his son only Youtube video was just a viral fad and not a consequence of his son's talent. The result is that the butthole broke the family and was left with nothing, while tens of thousands of his son's CDs had to be destroyed.
>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales (estimate based on likelihood of users leaving reviews)
Why would you go and make wild assumptions when sites like this one exists? It's ~30 mil. That's revenue though, so deduct applicable taxes, Valve's cut, etc.
https://vginsights.com/game/1966720
This comic reminded me of when my friend said he went through his home PC's browser history and found a bunch of gay oral sex porn videos, and the only other person using his PC was his 12-year-old sister.
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO GROW WE NEED GROWTH GROWTH GROWTH LINE GO UP GDP GO UP MORE EMPLOYEES MORE HUMAN CAPITAL MORE MORE MORE MORE
>BRO YOU NEED TO HIRE HUNDREDS OF NEW LABOR TO PUMP OUT A CONSTANT STREAM OF CONTENT SO MY HECKIN FAVORITE STREAMER CAN HAVE DAILY POGCHAMP MOMENTS
>nah bro my team is just a few of my highschool friends and we dont wanna overcomplicate things, we just want to hang out and have fun
I think he doesn't care and is just going to sit on the money. I have a feeling this was a test game and he has bigger aspirations. I always hear about how artists will pour their heart into a work only for it to be ignored, but a lazy shitpost they make will Garner all the attention. If that ever happened to me Id just let the shitpost fund my life and not double down.
Kinda hard to find time to work on a game and hire a team when you are busy counting money and then swimming in it. After that all you really have time to do is grab something to eat and go to bed.
This is the right choice though. He is already rich, he doesn't have to share those profits with anyone other than Steams cut. He has no reason to take on added responsibility by hiring a workforce. the game works fine as is, and it will be forgotten in 2 months like all the other fomo indie hits that have come and gone.
At least this way he can stay rich, stay small scale and stay chill.
Construction site now!!!
>waaaa stop being a selfish little frick and hire more people and let them ruin your game or something
Not worth the extra mindspace
>>be indie game dev
>>make hit game
>>earn between 21m and 61m USD in sales (estimate based on likelihood of users leaving reviews)
to hire anyone to work on your game.
>I'm totally going to make something with no strings attached!
that's how it starts, you are fricking stupid if you trust anyone who says that because secretly they want you to feel like you owe them a favour and that kind of thing just creeps up and up
A lot of people do this, so it's always a good idea not to trust anyone, and only work with people with contracts and things like that. I have already received hundreds of proposals for help for free, I denied all of them with the justification that I cannot incorporate third-party work into my product, because that could get me in trouble with the law (which is actually true, especially if the guy who helps me is from my country).
Many of these people insist, and sometimes they even let slip that their "dream" is to work in game development and blah blah, that is, the intention from the beginning was to try to infiltrate the production of my game (and obviously, the money which it does), and they disguise this intention with voluntary help initially.
Hes made enough off that game to go frick off inawoods somewhere. Why would he want to work with people? Good on that furgay getting his.
The game isn't that great, it's pretty bare bones. What got everyone going was the huge wave of streamers and youtubers playing it as per usual, except this time all the people want to experience the local voice chatting cut off shenanigans for themselves. Tons of games get huge exposure, but that exposure ends up 'exposing' all of the game to the viewers who then aren't inclined to even purchase it for themselves, or ask mommy to buy it.
if these people want to make a free translation they can just do it and release it as a mod right?