>Be Valve
>Have a monopoly on PC gaming
>Still in last place for biggest companies in the industry
So I guess we know PC gaming really isn't that big...
>Be Valve. >Have a monopoly on PC gaming. >Still in last place for biggest companies in the industry
Crazy how by being on Ganker and reddit you'd think PC gaming was dominating the industry, but it couldn't be any more dead last judging by stuff like this and game sales broken down by platform.
Yeah. Thats why console ganes keep getting ported
PC games too.
Yeah everything gets ported to everything now. It's actually pretty cool.
A new Final Fantasy just fell flat on its face, how do you explain it?
It's shit and had bad press from the no black people stuff.
The mobile market is king, but it's made up of mostly women and women don't browse Ganker
all of the women who browse Ganker are male
>moron blathers on
>gets BTFO by facts throughout the thread because he was too moronic to Google
lol
its because they only have like 300 or 400 employees total and don't even make games, the only reason snoy and tencent are bigger is that they own a billion studios that actually make shit
>Take 30% off of damn near every game these "billions" of companies develop.
>Still a bottom b***h.
Your comment wasn't as smart as you thought it was.
>Take 30% off of damn near every game these "billions" of companies develop.
you mean like every other retail shop?
revenue and profit aren't the same thing
I don't think you understand what a monopoly is.
ONLY SEVEN DOLLARS? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mobile games arent games
you should be fricking grateful
valve could easily top that list (at least for a few years) by fricking consumers over like the rest does
kek valve is one of the worst. Even fricking Nintendo gives cash back on digital purchases. Steam is just a shitty drm.
That's for dev and publisher to decide, DRM in Steam is optional.
Nintendo also charges you to play online. Conveniently you don't bring that up, like a well trained goyu
The shills will never bring up how the console companies not only charge you to play online but also take 30% of revenue as well
That's not even the most egregious bullshit they do. Nintendo charges you to backup your saves. That's not an exaggeration. You can only backup your saves with cloud saving, no local backups, and you can only cloud save while paying for their service.
Steam does refund digital purchases what the frick are you talking about
Valve is being sued by Australia's consumer rights commission over Steam's refund policy
"We are making every effort to cooperate with the Australian officials."
https://www.eurogamer.net/valve-is-being-sued-by-australian-consumer-group-over-steams-refund-policy
videogames are legal in australia ?? ?????????????????
You can say whatever but switch/ps/xbox are sold there.
>Buy game on Switch
>Play it for a few minutes
>It sucks
>Try to refund
>No button to refund
>Need to contact customer support through a web browser
>Wait 3 days for an answer
>Refund declined because "We are unable to provide refunds or exchanges for mistaken purchases, and/or if you don't like the game"
>Buy a game on Steam
>Play it for a few minutes
>It sucks
>Go to the support page in the client and click refund
>Automated bots approve refund in <15 minutes
>Money back in bank in about an hour
Majority of console owners almost exclusively play sports games and Call of Duty.
I love playstation
why are third worlders so obsessed with sales charts?
Windows is sinking ship
>chrome os that high
christ, all the free and now outdated chromebooks google gave away are really going to damage an entire generation arent they?
Jobs said, “The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste. They have absolutely no taste. But what he had a problem was that Microsoft made really third-rate products. Their products have no spirit in them, their products are pedestrian”
I am glad normalgays realized that windows are shit.
the frick does that have to do with what I said about google shitbooks
No matter how powerful a window pc might be, it is ugly from inside to outside.
Im talking about chrome os not windows
moron
>Have a monopoly on PC gaming
Turns out having exclusive access to thousands of games released in the last decade doesn't matter when no one cares about said games.
>Counts a single user playing multiple riot games as separate users
>n-no those numbers doesn't count!
>yes Valve would never lie about their own numbers trust me bro
>artificially inflate numbers to look better with bad statistics gathering
vs
>People make some bots boosting one game since it just tracks current accounts in TF2
>consoleBlack person remembers he payed more for the worst experience
>something something PC is not big
lmao
they count stock sales as revenue, so big companies with open capital will always have bigger revenue than private capital ones, even if they fill for bankruptcy in some cases. Tecent is an investor corporation by the way.
>Apple and Nintendo the only ones that don't have some sort of stake in PC gaming
I don't see the issue here.
I love Apple games, such as and .
mobile games moron, mobile is the biggest market
PC gaming is like a quarter of the industry
PCs have the most and best games but cost a lot of money and most people are dirt poor losers with <$1000 in their bank account
>PC gaming is like a quarter of the industry
See
See
>companies literally organized from most evil to least evil
and people try to tell me capitalism isn't literal hell on earth
All the money comes in scamming chinoids with mobile games. PC gamers pirate everything and consoles make money by charging users for Netflix
Okay but how many of those are publicly traded companies?
>~~*publicly traded companies*~~
Thinking back on the news that the new israelinese sony guy wants to focus solely on mobile gatcha shit, its crazy greedy sounding when looking at that graph. They’re number one in the traditional games sphere by a substantial margin but it’s simply not enough for them.
Yeah MS already got early access to make money, while Sony is thinking. That is why ceo was fired.
fricking idiot
if valve was run by israelites then it would be worth way more but luckily valve is based and doesnt nickel and dime everything they can and instead gives a good user experience. valve is a private company. imagine if EA created Steam. PC gaming would be in shambles
>the inventor of battlepasses
>every single Valve game is just a gambling simulator
>they hire fricking Psychologist (https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/jobs?job_id=11) for their games to make people addicted
>responsible for making lootboxes, DRM, not owning your games the norm
>sued multiple times for breaking basic consumer rights
>not israelites
>working closely with the CCP
are you kidding? EA's israeliness is nothing compared to Valve
>DRM
On disc DRM existed before Valve
>Disc is the same as being forced to use a fricking Chink botnet program
Frick off zoomer.
Yeah I sure do love limited key activation and driver level drm for my physical games
>limited key activation
There was a few games that had that shit and they got ENDLESSLY shit on for doing this. Don't talk about stuff you have no idea about, zoomer.
So you admit there was DRM before steam meaning Valve didn't invent it like you claimed
moron
Discs are not fricking DRM you moronic zoomer, why are you shills always trying to claim this?
Before you try and argue more, at least google what DRM means.
Starforce and securom are literally on disk DRM
Are you seriously too young to know this?
>heh but what about these DRM programs that barely any game used and was hated by everyone back then?
>checkmate!
Yeah dude, a few games that had DRM which EVERYONE hated and shat on them for is the same as DRM being the norm.
>Barely any game used
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/SecuROM
Doubt you even care and will keep rambling
>check out the list
>GTA:2
>Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy
>Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
I own these games on a CD and they don't have any of this shit, what the frick are you trying to pull? And this is just skimming through it quickly.
Seriously, how old are you?
And you are comparing 600 games the past 3 decades compared to 30k on Steam. Like I said, why are you acting like that was the norm when it was far from it?
How does that change the fact games before Valve had DRM
600 games from the 90s and 2000s is a frick ton for major releases, that doesn't even include the ones using StarForce
It games from 90's to 2020 and most of them are shitty football games. And you are still fricking comparing using a Chink DRM launcher you are forced to running with using discs.
I can still play my GTA:2 copy I have laying around without any problem, I can sell it, I can borrow it to friends and I own it.
The point was you said Valve made DRM, which isn't true and has existed, and no I'm not talking about CD Keys
please don't feed the animals. they react badly to posts that aren't tailored to their delusions.
>responsible for making lootboxes, DRM, not owning your games the norm
Read what I posted again
I specified just the DRM because it wasn't correct
The other points are more valid criticisms of Valve but saying they made DRM is a flat lie
How is it not correct? Valve made DRM the standard with Steam on PC when that was far from the case before.
You bringing up a few games used to have it and it was hated does not mean it was the standard
Being hated doesn't change that it was used by a large number of games
They made A DRM but DRM existed before, just because they made a form of DRM doesn't exclude previous DRM from existing
>by a large number of games
600 games across nearly 3 decades is NOT THE NORM, and the majority of them are shit like FIFA. Read my fricking post again, they made it the NORM.
Your post wasn't about what was or wasn't the norm, but that they made lootboxes, DRM, and not owning your games
Try reading your post again
>responsible for making lootboxes, DRM, not owning your games the norm
This is the second time I fricking has to quote what I posted.
Can you read, the "make" part isn't true with DRM
If you stated at the start of your post they normalized DRM that would be different
Are you fricking moronic?
Steam doesn't have DRM, every single game is completely playable offline, unless the developer themselves inserted their own DRM into it.
But enough about EGS
thanks for exposing you cant even comprehend what a video game is. thanks for exposing your moronation. now i can leave the thread knowing theres a moron in it and you have successfully boosted the rest of my day. thanks moron
ESL
I have like 1 Valve game and my Steam account is 12 years old (don't get too turned on)
Tencent actually pay well more than valve when I went for a interview a year ago
Valve hires more psychologist as % of workers than any other game companies that's why many people defend valve
Tencent owns the steam china
Private western companies in china has to be partly owned by state company tencent
>Tencent owns the steam china
Perfect World actually
>So I guess we know PC gaming really isn't that big...
To begin with, you need to remove mobile games because they are a separate industry, with different products, different consumers, different forms of monetization. Frickers mix everything up for some mysterious reason, but it makes as much sense to compare mobile game revenue with normal games as it does to compare board game sales with video games...
that is purely speculation, valve isn't publicly traded
why are all the Indians riled up about steam today?
>Steam trying to force people out of w7
>it's Indians that want to do this
GOOD MORNING SIRS
>old OS stops getting new support
good morning, indeed.
SIRS SIRS YOU NEED TO STOP USING NEEDFUL W7 RIGHT NOW UPGRADE TO HOLY SACRED W10 OR W11 RIGHT NOW OR LOSE ACCESS TO NEEDFUL COMPUTER!
>LOSE ACCESS TO NEEDFUL COMPUTER!
or just work around the lack of support for new updates like everyone has done for every previous OS?
Imagine shitting on Tencent while still using Epic Games and Reddit or buying Larian Studio's Baldur's Gate 3. Tencent has money on all these companies lmao.
Yes? Welcome to modern day capitalism where avoiding a shitty company is nearly impossible unless you live off your own land. Doesn't mean you can't shit on it.
>revenue
And which one doesn't need to share the revenue with shareholders?
Which one makes actual money off the other publishers' games without needing to make any games of their own or manage satellite studios?
>Be Valve
>muh monopoly
>Muh 30% cut
>Muh DRM
Every day
Every hour
Don't you get tired making the same bait all the time?
based valve only takes 30% of every purchase made on their store, they are too generous
The actual starting point for that chart is nintendo at 15mil.
All the companies above it are extremely diversified and get most of their money from other places. IE: microsoft gets theirs from whoring out cloud services, tencent is CCP funded and sells fricking health insurance along with a bazillion other chink things, etc.
That said, every company above valve actually has to do work to get that money. Valve just sits there and collects checks.