I bought a cheap psu from Amazon 2 years ago and after like 3 weeks I started having glitches. Couldn't figure it out and then the pau failed completely and I lost my 600$ gpu among other things. I was so mad I took a shit into a large soda cup at McDonald's and threw it at a car in the employee parking area, splattering it all over the employee cars.
>I was so mad I took a shit into a large soda cup at McDonald's and threw it at a car in the employee parking area, splattering it all over the employee cars.
lol I hope this actually happened
Gold platinum and silver and bronze are efficiency ratings not quality ratings.
If you have cheap electricity it makes sense to buy a lower efficiency PSu by a reputable manufacturer rather than a higher efficiency PSU by some shitty manufacturer.
If your electric energy is expensive and you have power hungry components the only PSU you want is the highest efficiency from a reputable manufacturer and to understand that every dollar you pay more will return to you trough energy saving and trough knowing you can reliably use your other more expensive components.
I've been researching psus lately to get one for the upcoming 4000 series. My 980 died so I'd like to build a new big dick rig. Scared of transient spikes and not sure how big of one to get
I bought a 1000W Platinum before upgrading to my 3080. Will last me a decade.
Just like my old 650Gold from 2008 lasted me till 2021.
Always oversize and never skip on the PSU.
Leaving at least some headroom is a must and then you can go overkill as much as you can afford even to double. Tards on /pcbg/ will say to go for double but thats not a rule and certainly is a waste in many situations.
When you're building for yourself you do not follow the same rules as if you were building for you enemy or some homosexual on ebay or for someone you dont care or know.
Yeah he can get a cheap Raidmax 600W bronze psu and the cheapest A-520 motheboard that supports the R5 5600 and put it in some used beige case from his childhood computer that was made with airflow for a pentium 4, and it can maybe work perfectly.
But it can also be that A-520 mobo doesnt have enough pciE lanes, that you cant use your cpu with max clock on all cores, that it doesnt have XMP for the memory, that the pcie3.0 is gimping your gpu, that the raidmax overheats in the shitty old retro meme case and burns your entire house.
I've noticed some shady shit with amazon. Is it really counterfeit? I got a Ryzen 3600 from them and it failed 10 minutes after I turned the pc on. Luckily AMD replaced it quickly, but I heard similar stories with buying from amazon.
I have no evidence but I strongly suspect what happens is that sellers get a hold of factory rejects in places like China or wherever their manufacturing is and they didn't make it to standards and so they were discarded. The sellers then sell these flawed products as legitimate brand new items.
I bought this amazing chair from office Depot. I paid like an extra $100 to buy it in the actual store versus on Amazon. It has been the best share I've ever had, but when I go on Amazon there's tons of reviews about broken parts and s***.
I think it's a huge problem on Amazon right now.
Pretty much the only things I'll buy off Amazon now are cheap s*** I don't care about.
From that I've learned/heard, there are regions in China that strongly discourage--if not outright ban, foreign imports. Ironically though, 'Western' goods and comforts are considered exotic, so companies will make knock-offs, not only to sell to their own population, but then they go an export it. And because there's little to no way to crack down on it (implying the Chinese government actually makes the effort), there's almost no recourse with this sort of activity. It's usually better to buy certain items in-person--not only are you supporting local businesses and people (even if they're companies like Best Buy), but you're usually go through official channels, and not gambling on sites like Amazon, which usually gets a cut from counterfeit sales.
Amazon reviews are only 5s and 1s. The only time people leave 1 reviews is when their shit breaks immediately or if the dumbass didn't read before buying which is just bound to happen sometimes. If there are shit loads more 5s than 1s the product has a pretty low risk factor in my experiences.
If you're buying from a reputable manufacturer directly it's probably okay, but just avoid amazon if you can, they have all sorts of issues with counterfeit shit and fake reviews.
I always make it a habit to read the bad reviews first.
Granted, there are many one-star reviews that are absolutely trash--made by one disgruntled customer or another, but you typically get to what issues usually crop up with people.
And to that end, yeah--it's an unfortunately common practice for companies to seed reviews of their own products--super illegal, but hard to crack down on, especially if they actually buy the product.
I buy most of my stuff from ebay "official" sellers. Ganker keeps telling me that it's all fake chinese knockoffs but I've never gotten burned once.
I even managed to snag my new monitor from an "official" Viewsonic ebay seller with zero feedback history. It was out of stock everywhere on the internet except for that one ebay page and it came in new and perfect.
I've noticed some shady shit with amazon. Is it really counterfeit? I got a Ryzen 3600 from them and it failed 10 minutes after I turned the pc on. Luckily AMD replaced it quickly, but I heard similar stories with buying from amazon.
Not to mention, returning items can be that much harder, and no company likes shipping fricking computer cases.
I acknowledge I got super lucky living near a Microcenter--I can only imagine what people go through living in places like Alaska or Hawaii--let alone BFE-midwest, where you practically have to import all your parts in.
With that being said, Amazon does have its perks--I don't feel AS bad doign shameless returns, because frick Bezos...
It's almost like you're rolling the dice when you cheap out...
This goes for just about any computer part or component, if not every commercial product in general.
But with PSU's specifically, most brands don't actually manufacturer their own PSU's, but instead will buy OEM's and slap their own label onto them, EVGA included. That's why Seasonic PSU's are usually coveted, because they usually manufacturer their own power supplies, but like most things in life, an ounce of skepticism goes a long way, and I would still double check reviews of any computer part I invest my money in.
I was always told to basically never buy any PSU except Seasonic because all other options are just white label Seasonic or hot dog shit. >t. 850w Gold fully modular Seasonic master race >Brought to you by Seasonic™
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not to imply the only good brand is Seasonic, but they're one of the few that sells under their own label
Then look it up on their website, you lazy sack of shit
>notyourpersonaltechsupport.jpeg
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't respond if you don't know the answer dumbass.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't ask questions for shit you can look up yourself
>https://www.evga.com/warranty/power-supplies/
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nothing in there answers my question, only that the suffix determines the warranty, which says nothing about why. I'm just going to assume different quality parts and manufacturers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
THEN LOOK UP THE SPECIFIC PSU HOLY SHIT
I can't even answer this because you never listed the specific model. If there was an award for being moronic, you would still lose because you'd be eligible for the uber-moron award...
I've noticed some shady shit with amazon. Is it really counterfeit? I got a Ryzen 3600 from them and it failed 10 minutes after I turned the pc on. Luckily AMD replaced it quickly, but I heard similar stories with buying from amazon.
I have no evidence but I strongly suspect what happens is that sellers get a hold of factory rejects in places like China or wherever their manufacturing is and they didn't make it to standards and so they were discarded. The sellers then sell these flawed products as legitimate brand new items.
I bought this amazing chair from office Depot. I paid like an extra $100 to buy it in the actual store versus on Amazon. It has been the best share I've ever had, but when I go on Amazon there's tons of reviews about broken parts and s***.
I think it's a huge problem on Amazon right now.
Pretty much the only things I'll buy off Amazon now are cheap s*** I don't care about.
So where are you supposed to buy stuff if you don't have a Micro Center nearby? Amazon is bootleg central, Newegg got CHINKED, ebay is a flea market unless you luck out like that one anon, where's left? B&H? Best Buy shipping to store?
sorry to hear that bro. I've been using it for a month now and it works great. I also hear good things about evga's customer service but I've never had any problems with any of their stuff
Probably not bad, but I've been wary of their newer PSU's, and ended up getting a highly-rated Corsair since it was on sale and more convenient to obtain
I would have liked to have stayed with EVGA, especially considering I had to replace all the cables for an existing build.
Expensive PSUs are still cheap. No reason to try saving ten dollars on a 2K computer. Just buy one of the reputable brand ones that gives you about 50-100W clearance of your estimate so you have wiggle room to upgrade components or add more storage.
Don't even buy cheap chink PSUs, I got a platinum Corsair one and it lasted me 10 years and its about to die, i can't keep it turned off or it struggles to turn back on.
>Just bought an EVGA 750w for my new GPU >Open Ganker >This is the first thread I see is this
I wish you guys would stop stalking me and making me feel paranoid about everything I purchase.
The fan in my 2008 HX1000W died recently after having been used pretty much 24/7 for 14 years and used across multiple rigs.
It wouldn't have been all that hard to replace the fan, but I figure it had served me well and was due for a replacement, not to mention it was well outside the 10 year warranty period.
Helpdesk story time! >Worked at a company that made clothing for major retail brands >One day, company suffered a mass power outage >Like think hours instead of minutes >Power finally comes back on, and some of the warehouse computers don't come back up >Like most warehouse packing stations, those computer rarely got turned off, if ever >Never mind the handful computers that got stuck at POST since the CMOS battery died YEARS ago
Electronics crave consistency, and just the act of spinning down the hard drives ended up killing them.
Never cheap out on PSU.
FPBP. If there is absolutely one component you don't want to cheap out on, it's the PSU.
This
Troubleshooting PSU issues is moronic, and it's better to simply remove it from the equation, if possible.
Not to mention, graphics card coil whine is super annoying, and super prevalent nowadays, and can mostly be resolved with a quality PSU.
that's what reddit says
That's what anyone with electrical knowledge says.
Yeah, and?
If Reddit told you not to jump off a bridge, would you jump anyways just to spite them?
>hes not a jumpchad
Ngmi
>Buy a Chinese PSU
>They start smoking a month later
many such cases
>Chinese PSU
>smoking
try acupuncture
Never, I repeat NEVER fricking buy a cheap PSU.
Figure out what wattage you need for your system and buy the best fricking PSU you can.
A cheap stick of RAM will die and need replacing.
A cheap PSU could fry your whole fricking computer.
I can verify this.
I bought a cheap psu from Amazon 2 years ago and after like 3 weeks I started having glitches. Couldn't figure it out and then the pau failed completely and I lost my 600$ gpu among other things. I was so mad I took a shit into a large soda cup at McDonald's and threw it at a car in the employee parking area, splattering it all over the employee cars.
NEVER cheap out on a psu.
>I was so mad I took a shit into a large soda cup at McDonald's and threw it at a car in the employee parking area, splattering it all over the employee cars.
lol I hope this actually happened
Just don't cheapen out on the PSU dude, it's better to take a slower graphics card than to have major annoyances and potentially fry a faster one
>high end system
>cheap
Though the evga 1000G6 was on sale for like $135, not sure if that's still going
Gold platinum and silver and bronze are efficiency ratings not quality ratings.
If you have cheap electricity it makes sense to buy a lower efficiency PSu by a reputable manufacturer rather than a higher efficiency PSU by some shitty manufacturer.
If your electric energy is expensive and you have power hungry components the only PSU you want is the highest efficiency from a reputable manufacturer and to understand that every dollar you pay more will return to you trough energy saving and trough knowing you can reliably use your other more expensive components.
Do not buy a $50 PSU for a $2000 computer.
I've been researching psus lately to get one for the upcoming 4000 series. My 980 died so I'd like to build a new big dick rig. Scared of transient spikes and not sure how big of one to get
youre going to need some 1000w psu for the 4xxx
I bought a 1000W Platinum before upgrading to my 3080. Will last me a decade.
Just like my old 650Gold from 2008 lasted me till 2021.
Always oversize and never skip on the PSU.
How much higher than your actual Wattage you want your PSU to be?.
Leaving at least some headroom is a must and then you can go overkill as much as you can afford even to double. Tards on /pcbg/ will say to go for double but thats not a rule and certainly is a waste in many situations.
200
Always funny seeing people pretend like an expensive PSU is useful. It's like buying an expensive mobo.
I've been running the cheapest shit I could buy for a literal decade in my rig, 16 hours a day. No issues yet.
When you're building for yourself you do not follow the same rules as if you were building for you enemy or some homosexual on ebay or for someone you dont care or know.
Yeah he can get a cheap Raidmax 600W bronze psu and the cheapest A-520 motheboard that supports the R5 5600 and put it in some used beige case from his childhood computer that was made with airflow for a pentium 4, and it can maybe work perfectly.
But it can also be that A-520 mobo doesnt have enough pciE lanes, that you cant use your cpu with max clock on all cores, that it doesnt have XMP for the memory, that the pcie3.0 is gimping your gpu, that the raidmax overheats in the shitty old retro meme case and burns your entire house.
>Always funny seeing people pretend like an expensive PSU is useful. It's like buying an expensive mobo.
It's nothing like buying an expensive mobo.
PSU failures can cook everything in your PC.
did i make a bad purchase?
80+ gold
750 watts
Fully modular
EVGA
You did fine anon.
That being said I never buy computer parts off Amazon. So much counterfeit crap on there.
I've noticed some shady shit with amazon. Is it really counterfeit? I got a Ryzen 3600 from them and it failed 10 minutes after I turned the pc on. Luckily AMD replaced it quickly, but I heard similar stories with buying from amazon.
I have no evidence but I strongly suspect what happens is that sellers get a hold of factory rejects in places like China or wherever their manufacturing is and they didn't make it to standards and so they were discarded. The sellers then sell these flawed products as legitimate brand new items.
I bought this amazing chair from office Depot. I paid like an extra $100 to buy it in the actual store versus on Amazon. It has been the best share I've ever had, but when I go on Amazon there's tons of reviews about broken parts and s***.
I think it's a huge problem on Amazon right now.
Pretty much the only things I'll buy off Amazon now are cheap s*** I don't care about.
From that I've learned/heard, there are regions in China that strongly discourage--if not outright ban, foreign imports. Ironically though, 'Western' goods and comforts are considered exotic, so companies will make knock-offs, not only to sell to their own population, but then they go an export it. And because there's little to no way to crack down on it (implying the Chinese government actually makes the effort), there's almost no recourse with this sort of activity. It's usually better to buy certain items in-person--not only are you supporting local businesses and people (even if they're companies like Best Buy), but you're usually go through official channels, and not gambling on sites like Amazon, which usually gets a cut from counterfeit sales.
Or, you know, people are more likely to give negative reviews if their chair breaks.
Amazon reviews are only 5s and 1s. The only time people leave 1 reviews is when their shit breaks immediately or if the dumbass didn't read before buying which is just bound to happen sometimes. If there are shit loads more 5s than 1s the product has a pretty low risk factor in my experiences.
If you're buying from a reputable manufacturer directly it's probably okay, but just avoid amazon if you can, they have all sorts of issues with counterfeit shit and fake reviews.
I always make it a habit to read the bad reviews first.
Granted, there are many one-star reviews that are absolutely trash--made by one disgruntled customer or another, but you typically get to what issues usually crop up with people.
And to that end, yeah--it's an unfortunately common practice for companies to seed reviews of their own products--super illegal, but hard to crack down on, especially if they actually buy the product.
I buy most of my stuff from ebay "official" sellers. Ganker keeps telling me that it's all fake chinese knockoffs but I've never gotten burned once.
I even managed to snag my new monitor from an "official" Viewsonic ebay seller with zero feedback history. It was out of stock everywhere on the internet except for that one ebay page and it came in new and perfect.
I've been burned before. You might not have been, but I don't recommend you keep testing your luck.
Not to mention, returning items can be that much harder, and no company likes shipping fricking computer cases.
I acknowledge I got super lucky living near a Microcenter--I can only imagine what people go through living in places like Alaska or Hawaii--let alone BFE-midwest, where you practically have to import all your parts in.
With that being said, Amazon does have its perks--I don't feel AS bad doign shameless returns, because frick Bezos...
>80+ gold
>750 watts
>Fully modular
>EVGA
literally means nothing
evga psus explode as well gigabyte ones
do your actual research on the 12v amps, the transient spike loads, etc.
So can literally any PSU if you get unlucky. You always take a small gamble with parts. With those specs you're just taking less of a gamble.
It's almost like you're rolling the dice when you cheap out...
This goes for just about any computer part or component, if not every commercial product in general.
But with PSU's specifically, most brands don't actually manufacturer their own PSU's, but instead will buy OEM's and slap their own label onto them, EVGA included. That's why Seasonic PSU's are usually coveted, because they usually manufacturer their own power supplies, but like most things in life, an ounce of skepticism goes a long way, and I would still double check reviews of any computer part I invest my money in.
Plus a bad PSU might kill your entire rig. The PSU is the last thing you want to cheap out.
Eh whatever I got some seasonic 750w bronze rated and my system only pull 300w 5600x and 3060 it's kinda based t b h f q m
I was always told to basically never buy any PSU except Seasonic because all other options are just white label Seasonic or hot dog shit.
>t. 850w Gold fully modular Seasonic master race
>Brought to you by Seasonic™
Not to imply the only good brand is Seasonic, but they're one of the few that sells under their own label
He did fine
A 10 year warranty isn't a bad sign either, though I'm curious why the GT version, which is supposedly the better version, only has a 7 year warranty.
Holy frick...
>
>https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
So Ganker recommends it as a silver+ evga and it's midtier, but I don't see anywhere about warranty
Then look it up on their website, you lazy sack of shit
>notyourpersonaltechsupport.jpeg
Don't respond if you don't know the answer dumbass.
Don't ask questions for shit you can look up yourself
>https://www.evga.com/warranty/power-supplies/
Nothing in there answers my question, only that the suffix determines the warranty, which says nothing about why. I'm just going to assume different quality parts and manufacturers.
THEN LOOK UP THE SPECIFIC PSU HOLY SHIT
I can't even answer this because you never listed the specific model. If there was an award for being moronic, you would still lose because you'd be eligible for the uber-moron award...
I don't feel like it anymore.
>Iwasonlypretendingtobemoronic.jpeg
>F tier replace immediately
Uh oh
So where are you supposed to buy stuff if you don't have a Micro Center nearby? Amazon is bootleg central, Newegg got CHINKED, ebay is a flea market unless you luck out like that one anon, where's left? B&H? Best Buy shipping to store?
I just sent back a 1300w of that to newegg because of coil whine.
my 750w is fine
depeneds on how much you paid for it
fully modular does not affect performance so you're being upsold on shit you don't need. at least semi- makes sense.
buying a shitty PSU is the worst thing you can do.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
>Bought a platinum 1000w seasonic 7 years ago
>Future proof for at least 7 more
Feelsgoodman.jpg
seasanic or bust
Of all parts in your PC the one you definitely do not want to cheap out is a PSU. A bad PSU will destroy your system.
I have an EVGA 450w PSU on my rig for 4 years now and haven't had an issue yet.
I got a hand me down 430w psu and used it just fine for 7 years.
I got pic related for $49 on evga b stock
frick evga i had that exact psu smoke on me not even a week in and the replacement did the same
sorry to hear that bro. I've been using it for a month now and it works great. I also hear good things about evga's customer service but I've never had any problems with any of their stuff
it's the normal wear in period
Probably not bad, but I've been wary of their newer PSU's, and ended up getting a highly-rated Corsair since it was on sale and more convenient to obtain
I would have liked to have stayed with EVGA, especially considering I had to replace all the cables for an existing build.
Corsair RMx PSUs. Never cheap out on a PSU.
Expensive PSUs are still cheap. No reason to try saving ten dollars on a 2K computer. Just buy one of the reputable brand ones that gives you about 50-100W clearance of your estimate so you have wiggle room to upgrade components or add more storage.
this. bout a 850w for a 650watt system because it was on sale and fully modular.
They're cheap because ATX 3.0 is launching right now and you want the extra features for next gen GPU's 1500w power spikes
Don't even buy cheap chink PSUs, I got a platinum Corsair one and it lasted me 10 years and its about to die, i can't keep it turned off or it struggles to turn back on.
what do you mean it struggles to turn back on?
>Just bought an EVGA 750w for my new GPU
>Open Ganker
>This is the first thread I see is this
I wish you guys would stop stalking me and making me feel paranoid about everything I purchase.
Exact same situation. What the frick Ganker.
how many watts do you need? buy whatever you need +200W and make sure it's a gold certified PSU. That's literally all you need.
Never cheap out on the PSU ... it is the heart and soul of your system.
Picrel is for my new 12th gen 3080 build
I went 850. I lord over most peasants but I kneel to 1000W+ chads.
I have the HX1000W from the late 2000s still running.
The inside in that old PSU look so fricking good.
very nice
This is
pic related.
The new one looks so boring.
Based.
The fan in my 2008 HX1000W died recently after having been used pretty much 24/7 for 14 years and used across multiple rigs.
It wouldn't have been all that hard to replace the fan, but I figure it had served me well and was due for a replacement, not to mention it was well outside the 10 year warranty period.
That's innate for most electronics
Helpdesk story time!
>Worked at a company that made clothing for major retail brands
>One day, company suffered a mass power outage
>Like think hours instead of minutes
>Power finally comes back on, and some of the warehouse computers don't come back up
>Like most warehouse packing stations, those computer rarely got turned off, if ever
>Never mind the handful computers that got stuck at POST since the CMOS battery died YEARS ago
Electronics crave consistency, and just the act of spinning down the hard drives ended up killing them.