>best writing
>best gameplay
>challenging
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>best writing. >best gameplay. >challenging
>best writing
>best gameplay
>challenging
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lady boner
>JRPG with turn-based combat
zzz...
>post with shit in it
Someone clean that up
>"writing"
>in an EO game
come on anon i love EO but let's not get carried away
>writing
>EO
I'll accept 3 and I can hear an argument for 1, but the plot and writing are not the best thing in EO.
Just because the content is good doesn't mean the writing is, I like how depressing the scenario in 3 is but its a massive stretch to say its well written. But as always you have no idea how the translation is. Many of the later games were absolutely butchered especially V.
As someone who played these in JP I'm pretty sure you're overreacting pretty hard. It's Etrian Odyssey there isn't much of a writing and this is not the localization's fault. Even if they had gotten the whole mars thing right in the localization it wouldn't have suddenly transformed the whole thing into god writing.
I think he means how "modernized" EO5's translation felt with the relatively excessive profanities and current memes.
which one? I got filtered by Nexus
>challenging
>EO4
You're supposed to play that one last...
>That last dungeon music
This was the first EO I played, and after playing the rest, I can say this is the "final" dungeon with the most unsetling atmosphere in the series.
>Dude lmao just mash A while looking at static images pop up in a shitty jaggy 3d maze
>Dude lamo just roleplay and pretend youre on an adventure and imagine your toon even though its a static portrait for every little thing
>mash A
>EO
lol
I think he meant the action button outside of combat
>Dude lamo just roleplay and pretend youre on an adventure and imagine your toon even though its a static portrait for every little thing
Literally me.
>Just mash A
lol moron
This is not FF
This. Give me some pixel sprites to go with it at least, otherwise you might as well add an option to import any png as a party member.
>we are too lazy to implement small details and RPG elements like party banters and deeper camping mechanics like in CRPGs
>so just use your imagination dumb gaijin gai now give us money ;D
Kek, weebs are so gullible and moronic to fall for the Director's marketing speak.
He's right though, nobody cares about a game's story more than the writer themselves, and often times the best stories are those the players themselves tell.
The best ones I've heard? Dwarf Fortress and Space Station 13 let's plays.
Disagree, Dragon's Crown's playable characters are bursting with personalities and the camp cooking are a nice addition, both enhance the roleplaying and help with stirring and reinforcing the imagination of players.
What Ninou said here sounds like a cop-out, the inn is just a several seconds soulless menu screen with some dialogues from the owner, no need to excuse the game with, "Uh, uh, your party eat something at the inn, uh uh, and ninja eats using chopstick and uh uh uh landsknecht laughes so loud uh, and and... I dunno, just you your imagination!"
>we are too lazy to implement small details and RPG elements like party banters and deeper camping mechanics like in CRPGs
>so just use your imagination dumb
I wish more games did this.
Why were they so cryptic with skill level upgrades in the older games. Had to use a guide before putting points in to see if a skill is even worth it
>best writing
You posted this just to bait an etriam discussion thread and I'll take that bait.
Favorite class? For me it's Highlander
Shogun here. Honorable mention to the link classes, have enjoyed all the ones I've tried
best and cutest girl
>uneven exp
>uneven levels
no
no you dont love her
Honorable mention to Dragoon for being the only fun tank class.
Dark Hunter. Reliable binds, solid damage, medium armor so it doesn't die to a stiff breeze, whips. Gotta love it.
I had fun going sword build with them
For me it's the War Magus
>all of those fricking details
>still remembers the girls' arm tattoos
Damn.
Gorgon Hexer. I fricking love stoning FOEs
Frick V for taking that away from me
Any advice for using the story Highlander in the EO1 remake?
It's so alien to have a party you're forced to use.
Bloody Offence is his most broken skill. At the start of boss fights, get him, Ricky, and Arthur in the same row and use (preferably boosted) Bloody Offence. Easy game.
>It's so alien to have a party you're forced to use.
Well why'd ya pick story mode then dummy
I've beaten the superboss without a single grimoire, so no.
Good luck anon! Don't neglect the sea exploration, beating those bosses can give good equipment and limit skills that are super helpful for the main game.
Get used to moving all your attackers on the same row to get bloody offense going on all of them. Spear assist, delay charge, and cross charge are what you should mostly be focusing on. I think I eventually swapped Simon to troub for the healing song to counteract the constant damage you'll be dealing to yourself every time you attack.
Wait you can change character classes in story mode?
Yes, reclassing is a thing, not only for story mode but for regular classes as well. It keeps their portrait and changes the class but base stats stay the same, so don't go changing an alchemist into ronin or something.
>Any advice for using the story Highlander in the EO1 remake?
spam delayed charge-limitless-cross charge and spear assist
>It's so alien to have a party you're forced to use
it's a completely normal party other than having a forced medic
depends what you mean by "beat the story mode"
just getting to credits doesn't need any grimoires whatsoever dealing with superboss is a different thing though
I tried 4 as my first one. I didn't like how slow exploration felt and it felt like my party was terribly weak with barely any of their good shit yet. I beat the first stratum or whatever it was called, but I never felt like picking that shit up again afterwards.
I'm sure it gets addicting and much better, but the slow exp gain and the level up system where you choose a particular perk/skill when leveling up felt too weak to give a shit. Doesn't help when the Fortress class has what sounds like an absolutely required skill, which is passive by the way, and it was basically "take less damage by 10%" or some dull shit. Makes sense the tank would pick it, but holy shit that kind of stuff makes leveling up feel wack.
>he used a dedicated tank in iv
Oh no no no
There are better options but sticking them in the back with Party Shield invalidates a massive portion of the game.
>not making a huge dude carrying a massive slab of steel do capoeira in the middle of a library built into a tree
You're missing out.
The Dark Spire has better writing.
I've beaten 4 and 5, but I always burn out in the postgame. It doesn't help that I stubbornly refuse to look up what comps are best for superbosses.
>made for a handheld
instantly a horrible game. im not straining my eyes for a videogame on an extinct handheld
Imagine not enjoying 240P
Only played 4 and yet to finish it.
Are the Untold games good (in classic mode) or should I play the originals. Is there much difference?
Untold games are both great unless you are a hardcore purist. 1 especially is pretty much a complete upgrade aside from the grimoirse stones being dumb as frick.
The map and classes had complete different designs between originals and remakes so they are all worth playing if you love the series.
Do I need to worry about Grimore stones in order to beat the story mode?
Very much so. QoL, grimoire stones (which most of the playerbase derides anyway), different maps especially in 2U, class rebalancing with modified kits to work with and their overall tiers in the games.
Like Landsknechts are borderline garbage in og 2 and serviceable in 2U.
>blurry first person dungeon crawlers
no thanks.
SMT III, IV, IV:A, V. Dungeon crawlers that manage to excel in 3rd person and/or 3D.
Doesnt even have to be in 3D, but if the newest EO is in 1st person then kiss your series goodbye
Eat a dick, I love dungeon crawlers. They are getting more scarce anyway
Only Nocturne has good dungeons out if the games you've posted
That's very generous of you, Nocturne's dungeons are pretty bland.
Nocturne has awful dungeon design.
Remove the writing part and you are right.
>This is a little experiment for an upcoming secret project... 🙂
>And next on the direct Atlus moves onto the next stage
>All new EO remixes in Persona Dancing 4!
Imagine if this was for an EO mobage I'd kms
After the first mobage bombed? Doubtful.
Say mobile game you wapanese homosexual.
Owari
>best writing
And by "best" you mean "none"?
I agree.
At the very least, EO has given us years of deer memes.
Too bad you can job them relatively quickly
dumbed down dogshit for fatlus drones
play a real dungeon crawler
>playing it on steam
filthy newbies
you will take my original copy gotten off moriyashrine from my cold dead hands
I have both and the updates Steam version got are fricking amazing and worth it. Pirate it at least. Don't even care that I had to start over.
>the updates Steam version
the what now
and frick steam, i'm not even pirating that shit, pretty sure it's on switch so i can just emulate it
It is on switch I think too, get whichever one you give a shit about.
Anyway non-exhaustive list of shit is basically higher resolution screen, enemy weaknesses displayed before you attack, ALL of the Plus Disk content included with the bugfixes, increased map speed, shortcut for stat increases for 10/100 at a time, idk probably some other shit im forgetting.
Bit grindy in some parts, bosses vary between "hyper pad a single defensive stat to neuter them" to "Don't fricking try to buff yourself/debuff them or they'll enrage and instakill someone"
You don't really need to know much about 2hu to get the gameplay but some of the character combinations won't make sense, like for example theres a "SDM Members" skill you can learn that passively increases all your stats if the front line has other SDM Members in there (Sakuya, Remilia, Hong, Patchouli), this would be a oh yeah duh moment for people familiar with the series but anybody that isn't would have to go into each skill page and figure out who the frick an SDM member is. Other things like "Why does this bird use fire attacks" or "Why is this white haired b***h literally immortal" would just be oddities to others.
Also a ridiculously large cast that all interact or replace eachother in some way so you can waifugay a bit and not miss out. Don't like Aya? Mystia, Chen, Orin, Sakuya can all play a sort of similar role. "Tank" selection is a bit more limited especially as you near endgame but otherwise your selection of nukers is massive. Also your party is 12 characters with 4 active at a time that you regularly swap in and out mid-battle.
>Anyway non-exhaustive list of shit is basically higher resolution screen, enemy weaknesses displayed before you attack, ALL of the Plus Disk content included with the bugfixes, increased map speed, shortcut for stat increases for 10/100 at a time, idk probably some other shit im forgetting.
oh wow it's literally nothing
i expected new characters and a plus plus disk or something
>i expected new characters and a plus plus disk or something
Sorry to disappoint, but 3peso is busy working on LoT3 to make new content for 2
Also the steam version for LoT2 is an official english translation rather than a hackjob patch so all the text stuff is fixed.
vaporware until he proves otherwise
looks fun, especially with the autistic skill tree shit which is going to either fix the flaws with the skill and subclass system or fully fricking ruin it, but given his past games (and not just LoT 1) i'm not that concerned about that being (too) shit
God i hope that skill tree doesn't suck.
Theres a few really unique ones, a lot of overlap between some attackers.
You WILL need a "tank" which is likely going to be Momiji or Komachi for like 50% of the game, though theres other sufficiently chunky characters that can be turned into tanks with enough effort. Parsee has a ridiculous base MND stat so she can literally solo most magic-only enemies and take no damage.
>not just throwing mokou at the problem at calling it a day when it comes to tanking
lmao
>have to pump up both defenses, and hp, and phys resist just to not spend 15tp per battle
Too lazy to swap gear around, Momi and Komachi are just afk tier plus free aoe debuffs with Komachi
How is this game challenge wise? I know little about touhou outside of the music.
if you can read and have half a brain you will find an OP strategy once you have a party of 12 and use it to unga bunga 80% of the game, but the remaining 20% aka the bosses are pretty good and enjoyable even with ungatard abuse
if you are a normalhomosexual whose hardest experience with gaming is a fromsoft game or EO itself, you will get your balls grinded to dust before the game kicks you down the stairs while laughing
Sounds like fun, I'll give it a go.
Stupid complaint maybe, but I feel like this game is designed for you to look up online what classes and skills do. Unless you are masochistic enough to enjoy all that grinding if you want to try something different.
>Unless you are masochistic enough to enjoy all that grinding if you want to try something different.
That's an artificial problem with both atlus and the console itself.
Normally, autistic people would just grind someone up, savesplit before spending anything, spend resources in this new save, see if it works, load the savesplit before spending anything, repeat.
Yeah, for how much I can appreciate challenging RPGs that sounds way too tiring.
>best gameplay
bro it's textboxes hitting a static png. How is that shit more exciting than a standard JRPG.
>BUT OMG IT'S HARD BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY
Yeah it's like that if you don't make an optimal team comp and if you do the game isn't really that hard if you avoid F.O.E until you're read for them.
Imperials are the best class. Don't @ me.
any interesting blobbers that do something different? i've played most 3ds and vita ones already
>>best girls
>>best gameplay
ftfy
Cute.
Should've come back for Nexus. Fricking Fatlus.
Nexus’ class selection is probably the biggest complaint I have with the game. All-stars celebration game my ass, you will pick a party full of frontliner attackers and like it.
That and the mostly-awful dungeon selection.
>absolutely LOVE the maze like dungeons
>absolutely LOVE the map drawing features
>like the combat, but wished it didn't get in the way of my MAP MAKING
Is there any game out there that will satisfy this type of autism? I would absolutely play the frick out of game that had no combat and was only the most hellish mazes that make EO4 dungeons look like final fantasy 13.
there are some completely insane games like deathlord, but those have combat too.
>The utility disk would let players import characters from The Bard's Tale, Wizardry and Ultima III, three games with totally different stat systems
Bizarre. Apparently it got a source port this year, might check it out
How unique are each of the 2hus gameplay-wise? Can I just use all of my favorites and expect it to work out?
>How unique are each of the 2hus gameplay-wise?
surprisingly unique, while there's some overlap, everyone has their own niche
>Can I just use all of my favorites and expect it to work out?
depends on your favorites and if you have a brain or not
the biggest roadblock is needing a tank on the leftmost slot, take care of that and you can throw in almost any kind of random bullshit and you can try make it work
Buns
I remember trying a bit of that ages ago, before there was a plus disc. It seemed like a good game but something about the dungeon movement bugged me. I admit it's a shallow complaint, but I'm just not a fan of that.
Plus disk stuff tripled movement speed and now theres two options for if you want up to go northeast or northwest. I know what you mean though, lots of dumbass gotcah dead ends and minimap checking.
For me it's more like I'm not huge on the perspective overall. I liked that you could level down for rewards on bosses, seems like a thing that's interesting, but uncommon.
Uhm thread derailing much?
Nobody gives a shit about your shitty effeminate game
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Damn sorry for talking about EO clones that junkies might enjoy as an alternative to playing the same game again
>damn sorry for talking about gay porn you know I just love wieners so much im sorry
EO is a dead franchise whose only purpose (like all normalgay triangle shit square/atlus/nintendo put out) is to funnel people into actually good games
if you disagree, post next stage's release date 🙂
Normalgays don't even know EO exists
I swear people like you are so terminally online.
Average people don't even know games like Persona or SMT exist, let alone fricking EO.
The entire franchise has only sold a combined 1.5 million copies across every game worldwide. Like really homie, you are fricking moronic.
Furthermore, even if it IS a dead franchise, it's a GOOD franchise. "actually good games" isn't 2hutrash.
>entire thread is UOOHHHH I WANT TO RUB DANCER'S BELLY ToT, NECROMANCER EROTIC
>um actually no you can't put a different series' girls in an identical game
lmao
I pick exclusively male parties in all EO games.
>I pick exclusively male parties in all EO games.
Males can join my teams, but they must be female.
cringe
F
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ded franchise
EO V is awesome and actually hard. just gets old after a while so I didn’t beat every level.
A lot of people shit on V but I like it a lot. A lot more than 4 for instance.
I just wish they didn't frick up with the second name bullshit
>actually hard
no it's not
Which title is the best though? I played 1 and picked a bunch of classes and spells and found I just wasnt progressing. Also I wanted to use status skills and found that as usual for RPGS that they weren't doing shit against anything strong
Got bored and never finished it
IV is good to start with.
>status skills as usual for RPGS that they weren't doing shit against anything strong
Lol, lmao
I just looked at a guide quick and I was using all the shittiest categories of skills lmao. Frick that shit, what the hell
How is 4 both good even though no challenging? With two recommendations I'll play it. Knowing my luck I'll pick the crappiest classes and skills accidentally which will add to the difficulty
Lots of good synergy between classes, the game being easier means you can make everything you want work easily, all kinds of parties work including safe/stall comps. Just a shame the exploration is a bit weak and there's not a lot of challenge in it.
V for necromancer and rover. Wilding in 3 is extremely underrated too.
The best games are 3 and U2, the good games are 4 and V. I don't see the value in recommending people start with 4 though, one of the best parts about the series is the difficulty of regular encounters and 4 is just straight easy all the way through.
I love to play as a summoner in games, what's the best EO game for me?
EOV has a Necromancer class.
And EOIII has the Wildling class.
Don't make him hate EO, anon.
Wilding is very strong though, ailments are very underrated in 3 because most people stick to a gamegay guide and never bother to try out anything else.
what the other anon said, ailments are overpowered in EO games and 3 is no exception, I stunlocked most of the bosses
>ailments are overpowered in 3
Kek no they're fricking not. Stun locking with shogun/buccaneer is great, but stun is the only good ailment. 3 is balanced in a way where ailments and binds on enemies and bosses simply don't work after they land once.
please be patient, status effects don't usually work on final fantasy so when normalhomosexuals see them work in EO bosses they think it's extremely innovative and overpowered
>after they land once
that once is all you need but i get it, cant expect much from morons such as yourselves
More memes from someone that didn't actually use a Wilding. Accumulated Resistance doesn't mean anything when you can rotate panic, paralysis and binds to get 10 free turns when fights end in under 20.
>stun is the only good ailment
Kek what the frick
>3 is balanced in a way where ailments and binds on enemies and bosses simply don't work after they land once.
Wrong Black person
Why are wildling haters such mouthbreathers
>not pointing out best music
ngmi
The DS ones are the best
>le millenom girl
how come there isn't a single piece of fanart with necro and hexer in it? All that exists is this one of the named characters, not the generic units.
also, horribly balanced with unclear interaction and wildling MIA
>horribly balanced
but one of thr best parts of EO games is how practically any party combo is viable. you're not one of them queer "choices are bad if one choice is superior at any point" anons are ya?
>laughs in Narmer
>laughs in hero
cmon anon, i like me some EO but dont go there.
>hero
I flame Fafnir for that frickery. atleast with highlander they had the decency to nerf it before making it a base class
I already played them.
Who said you could stop?
No really. I already beat them.
Last thing I did with the series was EO5 with Brounis only.
I love potatoes so much
after so so many hours of EO I got sick of it, I just try out various other series
Shhhh careful don't talk about other games.
it's no dark spire
dark spire filtered me. EO is pretty good though
i will try them both
Based
It's one of the best Wizardry-style dungeon crawlers ever made
>Publishes The Dark Spire (developed by Success), Strange Journey, and EO III in the span of a year
Atlus used to be alright.
best way to play this on pc?
Desmume for the DS games and Citra for the 3DS ones. Mapping with a mouse is easy.
post dancer
Please stop making EO threads in Ganker
No. frick you. I'm gonna make even more EO threads on Ganker you simpering homosexual.
No you fool , protect the things you love
No.
is this the game with the infamous FOEs or am I confusing it with another japanese rpg?
See
I've always wondered what the deal was with that iosys song, i should play this game lmao
Gladiator
Arbalest
Monk/Princess
Fortress
+1 of your choosing
And by fortress I mean this guy of course
I am sorry anon, the girl has twintails
Also, in my game it's Hoplite, not fortress, are there different versions?
No I made a mistake, that was why I posted him. Twintails girl is a good choice too.
About to start III, what party should I make? I'm indecisive, help me make a good balanced party for once bros.
Don't forget to make a bunch of farmers with the passive XP trait you will absolutely need those later
Ninja sub Zodiac is pretty much needed in the final floor to be a tp battery. Plus Ninja is a fun class.
I never used ether past stratum 2 or so, hell even in stratum 1 you can farm amrita thanks to trading. Later you have so many curatives it just seems excessive to dedicate a party member to tp recovery only
Why anon? Amritas are cheap and plentiful. Even a normal zodiac is good enough for TP duty, and can actually do damage in boss fights.
He just really likes Ninja. I don't blame him.
I think EO3 ninjas are at their best when they're phys tanking, as they get a 100% phys negation skill + 100% redirection. Combine that with hoplite/zodiac and you can nullify most attacks in the game. Pretty cheesy though
Eh. It's EO3. If you aren't cheesing the game, the game's cheesing you.
Ended up with
>Hoplite
>Glad
>Ninja
>Arbalest
>Monk
Good enough?
How important is that? I've only played 4 before and didn't bother. Is it make a party of farmers and farm stuff?
>Good enough?
Yup. Very strong and straightforward classes to build. Just be wary that arbalest is your only (good) source of elemental damage, so make sure to pick up limits like Hellfire that your Monk can use as well.
>How important is that?
Ok, here's what you do. Make 5 farmers and put combat study on them. Also make 5 ninjas and put combat study on them too.
When the farmers reach level 5 passively, rest them (for FREE - no lost levels) and respec into some farming skills, making sure one gets the monster avoid skill, and the rest split between getting rarer items (don't get too much of this) and getting more items at gather points. This will be your farming party until subclassing.
When you can subclass, sub those Ninjas into Ninja/Farmers. Get the TP reducing skill and all the good farming skills. You can now effectively farm infinite items in a single trip, limited only by your bag space.
gotcha! thanks for explaining anon! feeling confident about this
F.O.E
>best writing
which one?
Bunny sexo
Post'em.
https://eosortv2.tumblr.com/
Unsurprisingly V is my favorite EO, followed by 3.
Should I play them in order or do the Untolds?
>buy it for the e-girls
>stayed for the gameplay
The world needs more games like that.
Which game is the OP?
Where should I start with EO?
IV
IV
OP is IV and a good place to start.
Post top tier portraits
Pedo series
Good thing it's dead forever
Soul
Untoldbabbies will never understand
While I do prefer the original map design, (well, apart from not even having enough icons to map the floors properly), the enemy formations in Untold are way stronger and there's no broken immunize to fall back on, and also surprise attacks are more likely in Untold (cause Survivalist got nerfed) so you're more likely to wipe and lose all progress. Two sides of the same coin, I love both incarnations of Claret Hollows
oh shit the npc is here
If you're gonna take bait at least try generate discussion
i love Etrian Odyssey, IV is my favorite.
>No ports
>Locked to a dead system
no thanks
>turn based with 7 Black folk
That sounds really boring
not sure why you guys posted shit bgm when this one exists
Ironically have every single Etrian Odyssey game on both my Nintendo 3ds and barely got to the later titles. Pretty solid game overall but it's probably too difficult for people that play Persona 5 games.
everything is too difficult for single braincell morons that think persona is a good series
port the games to switch or something atlus you lazy fricks
No, once you go Darkest Dungeon, you could never go back. EO feels like a streamlined toddlershit compared to DD.
As a big fan of both games I think you're stupid.
Isn't Darkest Dungeon the game where the devs tried their hardest to make the game as unfun as possible and just kept nerfing all the fun shit you could do?
It is. The dev's actions were pretty much a textbook example of how to piss off your fanbase.
I just don't get why they'd nerf shit in a single player game.
because they want to be hardcore but forgot that making your game hardcore by actively developing mechanics which punish people for playing well is unfun
a lot of people liked the first one because it was trying to be different, but it was still a frustrating game, and them doubling down with the second one is even more moronic. thankfully people are beginning to more openly talk about how shit it is
Because devs don't want certain clases to be so moronicly op they can literally solo the fricking game
Why did they make them so OP in the first place then?
Are you saying they don't actually know how to design a game?
because balancing is not that easy
and because making stuff work in time is more important than balancing it out which can be always done later
flag also was OP to sell the dlc better
So they don't know how to design a game then.
Gotcha
>want to play with thing
>thing is overpowered and makes the game a boring snooze
>can't play with thing
That's it. So many complaints from casuals that want to trivialise games good lord
wow it really is western EO
Someone got filtered alright.
I played it only with emulators. I can’t imagine playing where you can’t save in a dungeon
Yeah. Imagine having to play with actual tension and risk. Couldn't be me, rather just load a save state than deal with that bullshit.
I'm not going to read the thread but I NEED to impregnate fortress.
>Mon-Yu apparently coming in 2023
>Labyrinth of Galleria coming in 2023
Man if they want to release an EO on the switch they better do it next year.
>Labyrinth of Galleria
About time.
I never bother finishing the post game dungeon, I hate grinding
Play smarter, not harder
>jrpg
>good writig
Please
I don't even remember these guys. I had to google it to remember. Azure Rainforest in original EO really was a joke.
They're FOEs in 3 too
I see that. But I couldn't even remember what that sprite you posted was from.
I remember the blue ones kicking my ass in 1U since you can get to the optional area with them before you're leveled for it.