It's been 7 years and I still get the itch to replay it. Why is X so good, bros? What would you do to improve on it if you were put in charge of a Definitive Edition version of X?
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>best Xenoblade
also known as the shiniest turd
Rude, wrong, and uncalled for.
>I-is that... IS THAT A THREAD ABOUT A 7 YEAR OLD GAME I HATE??
>AAAAAAAAAAAA I'VE GOT TO SHIT ON IT SO BAD I HAVE TO I HAVE TO ENTER THE THREAD AND TALK SHIT ABOUT IT SO BADDD
What is this mental illness called?
X is some serious dogshit
How can it be the best if it doesn’t have A silver-hair friendzone girl for the fandom to gush over?
But in all seriousness flesh out the side-characters better and more evenly across the board. And let me just outright replace Tatsu with another character that’s a fully playable Nopon. Can’t wait for the inevitable X Deluxe, as it is a great game that more folks should play.
>Nia
KEKED
>Melia
KEKED
>Mia
Literally perfect
Reminder that Mia is the only Xenoblade girl whose name ends in -ia to never have been cucked
I was gonna say Mia loses in the parents department with the homo-dads, but no... Nia's whole life got fricked up by what Driver-Dad forced her to do, and the whole High-Entia human-wife polygamy thing caused Melia to get treated like a leper and ultimately allowed Zanza to sink his roots deep into their society by creating a cult of racist pure blood supremicists. So she wins there too.
>having two dads with aids is less shit than other xenoblade dads
The absolute fricking state. Lmao.
Mia got cucked by having her unlock requirement locked behind needing 60% of Cauldros surveyed. I'm sure 70-80% of people never recruited her, myself included.
I assume that if the Definitive Edition for X is like the one for 1 that it won't have any more sidequests to flesh out the side characters, mostly just optimizations and improvements to things like flight
It’s a shame. X is a great game mechanically with amazing exploration, the shortcomings just lie in how severely undercooked the story and characters are when you compare it to the numbered entries.
I wouldn't say the X characters are undercooked compared to 2's. The story? Sure, but not the characters. Turns out you can do a lot with 3 affinity missions and 5 heart to hearts when you don't waste them like with Irina.
If anything, I think just improving the artstyle (making it match the artbook more) would make the game a whole lot more enjoyable.
It's a mixed bag, some characters got decent affinity missions. Others not so much (Doug had only one I think, and the payoff was him wanting to pay some dead buddy's tab or something). It also doesn't help in making sure they leave an impression when you're just going to be dragging around Elma and Lyn 75% of the time. The villains are also without a doubt the weakest in the series.
1 definitely had greater villains, but 2 only had Malos and maybe Jin. Bana was a great comic relief villain, though.
>Doug
Had 2 affinity missions, though the first one was the weird looking plants that turned out to be bugs in Sylvalum. It was actually a required mission to progress the story, so it, like Irina and Gwin's affinity missions, didn't really feel special.
It's a shame, too, since they were supposed to be part of the main cast, but they felt more sidelined than even Mia or Yelv.
>Malos, Jin, Bana
Yeah, and the only decent villain X has is Lao. All the ayylmao ones are shit.
Depends on who you count as villains. The Wrothians were pretty great even if they were only villains for 2 chapters before becoming allies.
This, if you took the tanaka designs and gave them the DE treatment they'd look way better. Visually, the only thing bad about the game is the character models.
This. The world looks and feels fantastic. The characters are why the game gets memed on so hard.
The artbook designs do ultimately look better. But, some turn out just fine.
Most party members in X have more lines than Pyra and Mythra do
Biggest waste of 60$ I ever spent.
Mira... home...
Where's the Mario in Luigi in row 3 column 2 and row 5 column 1?
>bring back the breast slider and increase max size to this
>some QoL stuff
>skimpy outfits
>Skimpy outfits
Got you covered, unlike the girls, already chief.
are all those in game without modding?
also i was able to download the american version so is there an easy way to get the breast slider back?
Yes, those are unmodded.
>is there an easy way to get the breast slider back?
Did you download it on the Wii U? If so use Gecko. It's how I and many others got the breast slider back AND connected online.
i downloaded it on my pc, gonna try to use cemu since i have a decent rig
>Prospector chads still going strong
Based. Best corp. Suck my nuts you gaygts.
I didn't care one bit about "no breast slider" because I didn't play as a female character or the "removal of bikinis for Lin" because I really like the tank-top + jeans combo for my girls.
It's so funny to me that they even removed the slider. NoA is basically saying that breastlets aren't human.
Flat women blown the frick out.
You can get the JP version of the game, make your character there, save it, then transfer the save to your EN version, and use that.
Fun fact: Nintendo of America only changed 1 line of code to remove the breast slider. All they did was change a 1 to a 0 to disable it, the lazy bastards.
Only uncultured swine hate XCX
>character designer basically retired from Xeno, last thing they drew was Kos-Mos for the statue box art
>basically no chance in hell they're ever getting Sawano again after the complaints
>art director (who also helped with motion capture and enemy design) is one of the Monolith Staff sent to the Zelda mines, hasn't worked on Xeno since X
they're never revisiting X and if they do it'll just be Xenoblade 4
They'll give us another X. They're just waiting for the Switch 2 since the Switch isn't powerful enough to handle X. I feel it in my bones. I FEEL IT IN MY BONES
>xenoblade2; 2017
>xenoblade1 DE; 2020
>xenoblade3; 2022
X DE will be 2024/25.
Chill your ass.
>X DE will be 2024/25.
and they'll shit it up, sequels/remasters after that long are never good
It'll be over watched by Takahashi like hell.
It'd be fine. Xenoblade 3ds and DE both went well.
Not really.
shitch has no game you have to shill that pos lol
Sir this is a Wii U game
Like all switch games
What Wii U game is Kirby and the Forgotten Land? Metroid Dread?
Oink oink, Eric.
Why would Eric shitpost a XCX thread?
I assume that he browses for threads to shitpost in
because he is a sad pathetic lifeless Black person still seething sony lost persona after weeks (years really) of shitposting.
He is the most notable poster to say 'shitch'
Make ticket booth accept gold as well and bonjelium have a way higher cap
Just decouple reward tickets from online. Gold is already used to buy so much.
Its basically unused endgame i tried getting perfect everything for all characters and ended up with max gold. Having ticket items purchasable with gold would retain its value late endgame
I played through 3 times for about 200 hours each and never hit the money cap. Equipment and skells are super expensive.
it's very easy to max out money by just putting any amount of thought into your probes
I'd replace the entire soundtrack and remodel every single human character.
I'd then remove the stupid homosexual missions that have a "explore x% of y" requisite
I'd redesign every single armor to give the player cool looking equipment to wear instead of shitty suits
I'd write an actual story
I'd reverse all the censorship
Oh and I'd also design actual side quests to replace the repetitive fetch quest trash galore that is X.
I disagree about the soundtrack and exploration requirements. There were plenty of good tracks but the problem was that they werent used that much. They could extend some of the environmental tracks.
As for the exploration requirements it is a huge service for most people since otherwise they might end up with no credits when they need them
I hope you were around when there was basically a Ganker general where we constantly shared with each other the joy that was XCX.
>I hope you were around when there was basically a Ganker general where we constantly shared with each other the joy that was XCX.
Hahaha, imagine if one of those anons decided to become chuuba using their XCX avatar...
Graci medic corp.
>Posting censored pozzed trash game
The best thing to ever happen to Xenoblade was choosing to continue the story started in 1 instead of X.
xenobros how do i undub this game in current year? i have both jp and us versions downloaded but the guides that exist are made by autist that gives it for granted everyone is le epic hacker
Either go full autism or don't go autism at all
i tried doing this and failed miserably, but there's an already undubbed iso on nyaa you can grab that works fine
>What would you do to improve on it if you were put in charge of a Definitive Edition version of X?
1. Flight is tied to pressing jump in mid-air, meaning you can still skell jump
2. New sidequest where you become NLA's DJ and get to decide its day and night themes
3. Improved quest tracking
4. Better UI with actually readable text
5. You can now switch your party members at any time from the BLADE terminal next to the quest terminal (the one that previously only served to recruit other players' avatars)
6. Improved map and minimap in general (can make the minimap grow like in 2, party members have a different colored dot on the map, can more easily zoom in on the world map and option to turn off the "cleared" yellow marks from the map)
7. Journal that keeps track of collected info (i.e. H2H locations and time so you don't have to hunt them down on every possible sector maps)
8. Introduce art cancelling or SOMETHING to make Skell combat more engaging instead of passive art spamming hoping for wienerpit mode
9. Double the speed field skill checks are done, option to hold A instead of mashing it
10. Option to have Tatsu wear his Kamiya glasses at all times once you do his sidequest
11. Uncensor everything
12. More World Nemesis and multiplayer missions in general, new Not!Miiverse
13. True multiplayer where you can visit a friend's instance of the game and be a part of his party in the single player campaign (you get teleported back to him if you stand too far away, you get level adjusted to his level and can only use Skells he assigns to you from his Barrack terminal)
14. Ability to level yourself down/Expert Mode with bonus EXP from explorations/sidequests like in 2 NG+/DE
15. Option so chances of weapon drops are tied to your currently equipped weapons instead of class
16. Additional weapons/classes, new party members (Gi Zang, Slovity, etc.)
17. Battle challenge mode
18. Detailed audio options
19. Masketta Man epilogue
20. Music doesn't change when your Skell switches to flight
>20. Music only changes if you continuously fly for more than 20 seconds, and doesn't loop when you land (neither does the field music loops), option to turn flight music off and sidequest to unlock a radio for your Skell, allowing you to play anything as flight music.
FTFY
That works, too. I was always disappointed with the soundtrack related to Skells, really. So when driving around and then "jumping" immediately switched it away from my continent's music, it was verrrrrrrrry frustrating.
I have a Wii U and bought XCX. I don't play games on my computer.
I'm glad to hear (I already knew, though) that lots of other people also really disliked Skell music.
I copied my account and save file over to CEMU, kept all my progress. It's a small hassle but worth having a backup of everything
there is a mod for that on cemu
>9. Double the speed field skill checks are done, option to hold A instead of mashing it
there's quite a few that have surprise enemy ambushes, it's actually supposed to be balanced around being a high enough level with either character or field skill and being able to mash fast enough before they spawn or having to defeat them before you can use it. That being said, being able to hold A so that it rises up automatically at a slower rate than mashing so that you don't have to do it everytime would be nice
>buff other elements to make them as viable as ether
>add a pity system to rare equipment drops
>add the cut content
>make enemy skells available to to the player
I'd also like them to expand on the surveying aspect with tyrants. It was cool seeing how many players killed vs how many times they've been killed by players on their bestiary pages. Maybe they could give bonuses rewards for killing tyrants with high body counts or something since surveying and exploration are major themes in the game
>you will never explore Sylvalum for the first time ever again
what other games have these kinds of fantasy landscape?
>explore
Is it really exploration if there's nothing to find?
I liked some parts of X, but it eventually got too grindy for me to continue. I really hope 3 isn't like this with it's sidequests and developing characters that way.
Play XC1 and nothing else
they have to either remove the mechs for combat and rebalance, or add a shitton/overhaul them.
things they could do to improve the game if it ever gets ported:
-Undo the moronic censorship
-Greatly improve the draw distance so things on screen don't disappear
The OST and sound mixing
-Some tracks are so horrendous and out of place (Skell flight music omfg shut up you dumb prostitute fricking killed the whole experience and excitement of flying the thing) and the voices/music are either too high or low in a lot of cutscenes
-Expand the online play with some better co-op quests
Still one of the most memorable and unique games I've ever played with a gorgeous game world
Armor crafting in post-game so getting perfect stats on gear isn't a pain in the ass
Shit game
On the positive side 3 seems to be taking a lot of cues from X like the class system and a more open world design.
WHY
HASNT
IT
BEEN
PORTED
YET
Replace the soundtrack, replace the story
Ill fricking kill you
Based. XCX will most likely always be my favorite game of all time. It's so good and soulful. Every time I replay it it's even better
I'd like the foot combat to be less dependent on overdrive and reflect. The defense stat is useless and healing arts that actual restore health drop off too. Maybe secondary speed needs a bit of a nerf too?
>best xenoblade
Don't mind me just in the middle of a 2 hours process of selling over 500 items I had one by one because the menus in this game suck ass. Almost done.
I'm not even joking I was just mindlessly pressing my controller button while browsing the catalog and I found this thread.
why
Because the game is made by morons it would appear. A sell all or toggle to select several to sell in bulk is apparently rocket science. Too advanced for human beings. I want this shit clean of garbage and I know there are a lot of valuables in there that will actually convert into money. I still need about 1M to buy the doll I want. Currently farming these here boyos.
I really liked it but it's extremely overrated, and I'd guess that's mostly thanks to it being stuck on the Wii U.
The main story is an absolute joke. The side quests are okay but there's nothing particularly powerful, even the best side quests only hit 'pretty good'.
The combat on foot is fun but is bloated to hell and back with an unnecessary amount of useless stats. Overdrive is almost impossible to master without reading up a guide on it, and even then it only becomes truly useful near the end of the game. Mechas are exciting for an hour, then disappointing the rest of the game as they shrink both the world and combat down. The moment you hop in a mech the combat goes to absolute shit, being nothing but spamming abilities off cooldown.
It still has my most favorite open world in a videogame though. It's a good game, but horrible overrated. Xenoblade 2 and 1 were better.
>2 was better
for what reasons do you believe?
Better characters
Better music
Better story
Better combat (XCX has better gameplay everywhere else, running around in that game is a joy)
XCX has a better world and better exploration, and I can easily see why someone would prefer it over 2, but story especially is a big one for me and XCX's story is a complete joke. It's just 3 repeats of "Villain shows up, villain shows up again then blows up" until the end where suddenly it throws ridiculous plot twists at you hoping you're happy. The side quests do help set up humanity's situation on Mira, but like I said I never felt any had a lasting impact on me. They weren't worth the huge sacrifice of how outright awful the main story was.
It was only as bad as Xenosaga 2
>Overdrive is almost impossible to master
Nothing really to master. Late game OD builds use OD count UP and lots of ATK to instantly kill everything. Prior to that skells are just better to use.
>it's heavily heavily flawed, yet some people treat it like an idol in the sky.
X is heavily focused around it's post-game content. There's a huge gap between a 50 hour save and a 500+ hour 100% mira save.
spoling as little as possible what is the post game content? what does the game add for you to do?
It's not just me who hates the generic nu-JRPG anime KAWAII UGUU tbh NE~ style of XBC2/3 compared to 1/X, right?
No.
I'm not a fan either. Consequentially not interested in 3 because it's following 2. Don't know much about it, but can't be bothered to research more into it.
Yeah, that's about how I feel. Maybe it was just Wii and Wii U having jank grafics but 1 and X had a memorable look to them because of it
>generic nu-JRPG anime KAWAII UGUU tbh NE~
...
>X
>not generic anime
why are 1/x fans the most insufferable normalgays ever?
Exclusivity makes people deranged.
It reminds me of that one image of Japanese posters gushing about some Warhammer game, saying how much they like it simply because other Japanese non-english speakers can't play it due to being untranslated.
Reminder that every fricking chapter, EVERY FRICKING CHAPTER of Xenoblade X starts with a 'Tatsu not food!' joke. This is even worse because 'Tatsu not food!' jokes are also rampantly used during the chapters themselves. It's probably the worst writing out of all the Xenoblade games.
It sucks because XCX is legit a fricking awesome game but it's heavily heavily flawed, yet some people treat it like an idol in the sky.
>>not generic anime
but he didn't say "generic anime", he said "generic nu-JRPG anime". there are plenty of games that look like XB2/3/1DE with cartoon shading and sticker eyes.
Yeah because monolith actually figured out how to make models that look like the official art instead of potato abominations like X or sameface hell like XB1 wii.
yeah and their solution was to make the official art dogshit instead lmao
I guess they are ass blasted by the implication that Shulk never defied fate.
is there a way to get the breast slider on CEMU? other than the japanese release
quest markers
autocombat
it's the best game of all time
SHOW US LIIIIIGHT FOR NOW
SHOW US A SIGN FOR WHERE WE CA GO
THE TIME HAS COME
WIR HÖREN TICK TACK
The way the party system works kind of makes it hard to feel like there is a big jrpg group here except for Elma and Rin. All the others don't feel much like they are a part of it so much as they make certain appearances here and there.
the game would be greatly improved by basic quality of life features like being able to keep an actual "reserve" squad you can swap around at any time and any kinda central terminal where you can customise your squad without having to warp all over the map; similarly why cap the board at 30 missions just let us accept every mission.
i think the game has some fundamental gameplay/story issues but they are probably not going to be able to resolved while these basic qol could be done very easily
I restarted it twice and never finished it.
I got to around the part where the main mission takes place in the lava area, it is quite late into the game, I think.
The difficulty really ramped up there and I wasn't in the mood for grinding, so I dropped it there, twice.
>What would you do to improve on it
not censor it
I cannot imagine how terminally alone you must be to enjoy a single player MMO. Sad, really.
>What would you do to improve
Remove nopons.
Fix some female faces, especially Lin, so that they don't look like they have down syndrome.
Less enemies. Sometimes it's hard to even walk a couple of steps.
Less micromanagement. After ~20 hours I stopped wasting time on this shit and always just bought the most expensive gear. The game can still be finished like that.
I want to say: let me recruit pic related, but this would also make furgays happy, so maybe let's not.
>I want to say: let me recruit pic related
They were already going to add two furries with Ga Buidhe and Ga Jiarg judging by the way they were presented in promo materials and in-game so you might as well include Gi Zang and the other two xenos with fleshed out questlines as playable. God knows the game needed more alien party members.
Telling more than half the story would have been nice for starters, too bad the series is dead and buried forever.
>What would you do to improve on it if you were put in charge of a Definitive Edition version of X?
redo every character model. Everyoene is so damn ugly I can't play it.
>NG+ option after beating the campaign
>serious rework of the postgame grinds so that multiplayer access isn't necessary
>include JP voiceover in the SKU
>restore boob slider to CC menu
>include audio sliders so that sawano's music doesn't drown out the cutscene dialog
>complete removal of tatsu
>more visual customisation for the dolls
didn't dislike tatsu as much as lot of people here seemed to
far bigger issue is just the pacing of the story cutscenes that take forever
>they don't let you turn off the soundtrack
I'm convinced they made it as annoying and terrible on purpose as a prank.
I have a theory that X just takes place in a timeline where Klaus didn't push the button
>Why is X so good, bros?
Giant robots
Is there a way to open the manual on cemu?
dont think so it's a known bug maybe some tweaking you can do it but frick knows what you'd need to change
For fixing combat just make the AI slightly more competent so postgame isn’t just Cross soloing everything. Make them better at activating and maintaining overdrive as long as they’re properly equipped to build up the TP to keep it going. For Skells I get what they were trying to do by giving each model a different feature while in overdrive on top of the bonus to wienerpit mode, but Skell overdrive just sucks and should be a reworked version of ground Overdrive. Lower the number of hits required to get to the maximum benefit since Skells don’t have as much variety in their arts.
affinity with party members should be reworked should not be nearly as much as a grind as it is now (especially before post game)