>shchrierrrer
I swear this homosexual could say Todd Howard comes into the office and makes every employee polish his fat hog one at a time and morons on Twitter would believe it.
>Shreier, notorious shitstirrer and famous for his saltiness over being blacklisted by bethesda for leaking shit is shitstirring.
Gee, what a surprise.
I see Schreier is still salty about being blacklisted by Bethesda.
Based muckraker Schreir revealing all the gossip these shit studios don't want you to know
Are these bot posts? The frick does that guy have to do with this?
He's got a long history with Bethesda, and Bethesda is all too happy to tell the world about how much they dislike Jason Schreier.
Its ironically a DARPA funded black projects development firm shitting on their resident israeli agitator in the news. You'd be surprised how common it is in the Maryland area.
You thought Bethesda made video games?
KEK they are a contractor arm for alphabet agencies.
Why do you think the "I identify as an attack helicoptor" meme has persisted so long?
The army boys get into some weird stuff. Our sex mods and theirs look totally different.
>Its ironically a DARPA funded black projects development firm shitting on their resident israeli agitator in the news. You'd be surprised how common it is in the Maryland area. >You thought Bethesda made video games?
Would be funny if the military trained on Gamebryo and it ended up getting everyone killed
Most of the employees at bethesda have never even played Fallout 1. The deleted tweet that Avellone references is that people at bethesda are still really salty about how fans love new vegas.
I guess its too be expected that they would seethe that hard about New Vegas after watching the homosexual Emil present his writing style/technique video on youtube. If I had a narrative designer that moronic on my team I would quit after seeing his work and hid methodology as well. Frick me dude just get the world designers from Bethesda and get the narrative designers from FO1/2 and mix the gameplay designers together and that would make for a competent non moronic Fallout game. They could even compromise on location doing it in Texas so it dosent fall too far into Obsidian or Bethesda canon.
Emil "Books into paper planes" Pagliacci is a living proof that america is a cultureless void if someone his caliber can work as a lead writer or anything bigger than a pamphlet for a parking lot
>activate the water purifier >but it's missing a piece >kill scientist >activate the water purifier >but it's missing a piece >kills the only people that knows how to use the purifier
Bravo Todd, god tier writing
>purifier purifies water in the most moronic location possible, at the outlet of potomac river where it enters the Chesapeake Bay making sure absolutely nobody enjoys the free and clean water that nobody but the hobos have ever shown to need.
If you want the most in depth realistic explanation you'd have to watch PatricianTV's 8 and 12 hour Morrowind and Oblivion retrospectives.
Long story short he excels at 1 type of mission structure, and he's actually really good at it. But its all he knows how to do and his wheelbarrow he draws from is full of this 1 type of mission layout. By the time you get to Oblivion he's done it 5 times now and is on his 5th string rendition of it.
As he's obsessed over it like a Director filming the same scene over and over again in every movie, the focus has stopped being on what the missions do for the overall narrative and have become an ouroboros eating itself and its characters. It becomes an isolated mini play that means nothing and has no stakes, but the entire main narrative stops when it happens.
I don't think anyone has the heart to tell him to control himself anymore.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He thinks Skyrim had the best dark brotherhood quest and Siciro is his best character. Emil has no idea what he's doing and his philosophy that "if you give gamers a story they'll rip out the pages and make paper airplanes out of them" ruins anything he can try and make because it's an excuse to not care since he believes no one cares
2 years ago
Anonymous
He thinks Skyrim had the best dark brotherhood quest and Siciro is his best character. Emil has no idea what he's doing and his philosophy that "if you give gamers a story they'll rip out the pages and make paper airplanes out of them" ruins anything he can try and make because it's an excuse to not care since he believes no one cares
Emil problem isn't that he's bad at writing stuff it's just that he's better at writing smaller scale stuff instead of main stories and big narratives
There's a difference between having a shit opinion and posting threads about your shit opinion nonstop in broken English for hours and hours of every day.
Haaahahahahah absolutely rekt. The only Fallout besides 1 and 2 worth playing is New Vegas.
*AT THE TIME* Fallout 3 was decent. It hasn't aged well, and fricking sucks these days without a boatload of mods. Fallout 4 is just dogshit. Absolute dogshit. Why even bother with the veneer of RPG mechanics at that point? Just make it a full-blown FPS.
I consider Fallout 1 to be one of the best games I've ever played and I didn't play it until maybe 2017 I think it was or 2018. I have yet to play any of the 3D Fallout games. So I'm a fan of 1 and 2 but played both many years after release. They are some quality games especially the first game.
I finally got around to it after playing 1,2, and tactics last year and yeah it's good. Still has clear engine related flaws but you can tell it's trying.
Redguard is a truly underrated, groundbreaking game that impressed reviewers back in the day with the amount of open world roaming, fully voiced dialogue, and complex interactions it had, and being an old game with outdated engine, controls, and combat, it doesn't appeal to zoomers like you obviously.
>Shreier, notorious shitstirrer and famous for his saltiness over being blacklisted by bethesda for leaking shit is shitstirring.
Gee, what a surprise.
>Based muckraker Schreir revealing all the gossip these shit studios don't want you to know >Unless he's on good terms with them then they can do no wrong :^)
Don't fall for the israelite's tricks anon.
>Muh Blacklisted >Todd comes on stage announcing how Fallout 76 just works and has 16 times the detail (just recently he tried to spin it as him being barely involved and not wanting to do it even though he lied about the game on stage and marketed it) >It's a mess and, in fact, it does not work >Journalists finally do the right thing at least this once and report it >Bethesda gets butthurt and starts blacklisting half the industry for simply telling people that Fallout76 is dogshit >Toddrones try to spin it as Bugthesda being "based"
I would rather trust a slimy plotting israelite with a baby leg coming out of his mouth over Todd at this point, frick off marketer
>starts blacklisting half the industry
One outlet. Just one fricking outlet got blacklisted. And it wasn't for saying Fallout 76 was a technical mess that sucks.
Nah it was way more than 1 outlet, and even included youtubers in said blacklist, and yes it was over Fallout 76 being shit, calling it "violation of copyright" for showing the bugs in video form doesn't change it
Actually, what really happened is that Obsidian bribed journalists to spread fake news about Fallout 76 because they were upset their IP was being "prostituted out" and so it was a good thing that Bethesda blacklisted dishonest actors in the industry.
Nah it was way more than 1 outlet, and even included youtubers in said blacklist, and yes it was over Fallout 76 being shit, calling it "violation of copyright" for showing the bugs in video form doesn't change it
Frick off. He never talks about games themselves. He just talks about "the industry" and that amounts to writing defenses for studios he's buddy buddies with and writing hit pieces on studios that did something to piss him off. The question is only "What did Bethesda do to Schreier?"
While it may be company policy to specifically not give him details, that won't stop rogue employees from leaking stuff under the table anonymously.
For all that I despise the little rat, he's very well connected.
He was responsible for the intial Fallout 4 leaks and Bethesda pulled a lot of strings to have him blacklisted with a lot of other studios (for a time) in retaliation.
>and Bethesda pulled a lot of strings to have him blacklisted with a lot of other studios
You get evidence to back that up or are you just making it up? I can buy Bethesda cutting him off but the idea Bethesda can command the games industry is a bit of a stretch. If he got universally blacklisted then that means he's universally despised.
both fallout 3 and new vegas are fricking garbage alongside every single fallout game after 2
fallout is a RPG played from an isometric perspective, directly based on the tabletop RPG system GURPS. fallout 3 and new vegas are just shitty normalgay shooting games that pretend to look like fallout
I mean that sounds like it's for the best. Fallout 3, 4 and 76 are completely different games to the original Fallout. If they had a bunch of the old guard working on the new Fallout games then they'd start trying to add in stuff like quests that make you think about who's right/wrong or RPG elements, and not bloated dogshit features like building spaceships/exploring a thousand planets which is what they want for E3 showcases. Bethesda dropped the couple million or so people who played Fallout to go after tens of millions of people who wanted to play Skyrim with Guns
Josh "I pay my 8 year old has a higher salary than my developers" Saywer is exactly who we need. Who but Josh "Taught and Taut are the same thing" Sawyer has writing second to none. Haven't you played his misunderstood masterpiece with the best ending in an isometric RPG Pillars of Eternity 2?
Simply put we must hand cuff Josh sawyer and Chris Avalon together and have like some other of fallout writer than I can't remember due to crippling sleep dep watch over them to write a good story
I liked Deadfire. The ending was good it just needed another act of build up (perhaps flesh out the final area more because all I remember it getting there, crossing a bridge and finding Eothas - ending to POE1 had way better build up and an actual dungeon leading up to it).
>Y-YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO EXPECT GOOD WRITING IN A RPG!
What's next? Your not supposed to expect good gunplay in a fps?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Considering how starfield is looking Bethesda gays may agree on that
2 years ago
Anonymous
You must be a very disappointed individual considering no RPG ever has had good writing. No video game ever has had good writing. This is a dumb medium that panders to dumb people. It's like expecting a children's cartoon to have good writing. You can't go beyond your audiences' abilities otherwise you will lose them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've played some RPGs with good writing. Planescape: Torment, for instance.
Quit being obtuse, you know damn well that better quality writing/dialogue makes a big difference in RPGs. I don't think anyone is expecting Joseph Conrad-level writing in their videogames, but there's a happy median there...
2 years ago
Anonymous
>hire talented novelist >have noveslist write a novel >transcribe novel to videogame
wow, it's that simple
(in b4 novels aren't good writing either)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>take all the credit so the author remains unheard of
I still don't know who the author is because while the game's narrative is top billing it isn't really advertised.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Robert Kurvitz wrote Disco Elysium and he was fired for being a dysfunctional drunk just like his self-insert main character so don't expect the same writing from any future ZA/UM title.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Thanks for actually filling me in anon, you're good people.
A shame about the firing, but not surprising. DE let me down but the way the convo trees worked was not part of it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a shame.
I thought the pregnant woman protagonist was already way too ambitious
2 years ago
Anonymous
>founded >fired as founder
idk. I watched a documentary and there were ups and downs but don't remember anything about him being fired... they all squatted a building with no roof, electricity or water in Estonia. I don't think a single one of them is really functioning...
2 years ago
Anonymous
He was a founder, but it wasn't his company. This is what was made available to the public https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/r1zhtm/robert_kurvitz_left_zaum/
2 years ago
Anonymous
>commie game
opinion discarder >inb4 hurrdurr it makes fun of all politics >says the commie as he ignores that helping the commie self insert is the only way to get the good ending
2 years ago
Anonymous
You must be a very disappointed individual considering no RPG ever has had good writing. No video game ever has had good writing. This is a dumb medium that panders to dumb people. It's like expecting a children's cartoon to have good writing. You can't go beyond your audiences' abilities otherwise you will lose them.
RPGs aren't about "good writing", as you're calling it (by which I mean you assume you really mean "lots of words". They're about creating fun or interesting premises and letting the player choose and interact with them. And yeah, RPGs usually have more story than most games, since that's part of the appeal (ie, roleplaying and pretending you're a character in another world). If you don't find that fun, try something else.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They're about creating fun or interesting premises
That doesn't explain why NV is considered to have "good writing"? NV is the opposite of fun and interesting.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My guess is that you have to be into the whole american western type of style to appreciate it. Personally, I like the atmosphere of FO3 more, but I definitely prefer the writing and gameplay of NV.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because NV has lots of fun ideas, attention to detail, vivid characters/lore.
Whereas Fallout 3 nonsensically rehashes some stuff without being dedicated to it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
NV was a solid end to the Fallout1/2 storyline.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's my take on it
The fully free faction choice in a war with entirely new entities and their different take of human history, each seeing their as a solution for the post apocalypse feels like an actual proper closure for the franchise
Any proper sequel to the Fallout games would be nice but thematically feel redundant enough that I'm ok with Fallout 1, 2 and NV already
The creation of a game can be attributed to a whole team, the blame for it sucking to a single person. The team follow the lead of a director
Todd and Emil chose to make the games this shitty, not Joe Black who worked to make textures for a bunch of rocks and admor models
ACTUALLY that quest has an optional part where you can give one of the scientists buffout or leave him behind. So it's actually one of the-most complex quests in all of Fallout 3. Checkmate atheists.
He was the only credited director of every BGS game, and the fact that his boyfriend Emil Pagliarulo keeps being in charge of the writing shows Todd is a big part of why those games fricking suck
According to the Fallout 76 devs, Todd would pop into the office periodically, shit all over all their ideas, and tell them what to do instead. No NPC's was Todd's idea, computer terminal quests looking for people you already know are dead was Todd. They called it seagulling
>According to the Fallout 76 devs, Todd would pop into the office periodically, shit all over all their ideas, and tell them what to do instead.
Based.
One of the more funny stories of 76's development. The whole game is just one sad wreck.
My favorite thing is still how they tried to cheap out with a nylon bag in the collector's edition, but the backlash was so strong, they were actually forced to get everyone a canvas bag.
Not really. The problems Bethesda games have aren't Todd Howard's fault just because he's the face of the company.
As NV and Morrowind both demonstrated, the blame largely falls on the quest design and writing teams for failing to design good quest lines and fricking up the world building.
Personally, I still blame that homosexual Emil for being a fricking bad writer but being so firmly entrenched at Bethesda with such authority over quest writing and design that they can't get rid of him.
>the blame largely falls on the quest design and writing teams for failing to design good quest lines and fricking up the world building
This is one thing that always baffled me about bethesda. They have the ressources and the time to design branching questlines and engaging stories, but they always go for the most MMO-like approach (skyrim infinite quests / guild quests) with some of the cheapest quests and writing I have ever experienced. It has gotten so bad that even normies started to meme about the quality of the quests (another settlement needs your help!). mind-boggling.
I'm wondering just how long MS will let their shitty studios keep on making flops before stepping in. They didn't step in to salvage the studios working on Fable or Perfect Dark yet despite it probably costing hundreds of millions so far.
>according to Schreier >according to Schreier >according to Schreier
Reminder that both Avellone and JSawyer have denied for years that theres any bad blood betweem them and Bethesda and Schreier is the only "source" that such bad blood has ever existed. Redditors, Obsidrones and NV fanboys are the only ones still clinging to this idea because they get a kick out of imagining that Bethesda is salty over NV's "success".
It did, but mostly because New Vegas was so buggy upon release it was bad even by bethesda standards. They also missed out on a bonus for a metacritic score which new vegas fans endlessly seethe about even though members of the dev team like sawyer don't really mind and admit it was their own fault for not doing good enough qa.
>about smaller studios
Once upon a time Interplay, the former employers of Obsidian, were a large player in the industry. Bigger than Bethesda were. Now Bethesda is huge and Interplay is dead and that's not because Bethesda makes bad games while Interplay made good ones and no amount of seethe and cope from NVtrannies will ever change that.
>that's not because Bethesda makes bad games while Interplay made good ones
Didn't interplay produce some of the best WRPGs ever made, like BG2, while Bethesda produced skyrim, fallout 4 and fallout 76?
Fallout 4 is a good game
Just not a good rpg
You can easily waste hours just killing shit and building pointless bases.
Probably why they decided to make 76 which seems to be just that with microtransactions
>Fallout 4 is a good game
but it's not? >You can easily waste hours just killing shit and building pointless bases.
I can do that any other """survival""" game, and there my bases at least make sense. >Probably why they decided to make 76
which is even worse than FO4
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I can do that any other """survival""" game, and there my bases at least make sense.
How is this a criticism?
Seems like you're admitting you just have a hate bones for Bethesda
2 years ago
Anonymous
>How is this a criticism?
because building senseless bases in a video game is a good sign that your game lacks depth and autists desperately try to get anything more out of the game than it actually offers. see any no mans sky discussion, in which all people do all day is share screenshots of their bases. it's basically kindergarten activity, but instead of children stacking blocks, you have adults stacking assets. it's completely unattractive to people who are looking for a well-designed game.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>check out this cool castle I made in minecraft >well no you can't sit in the throne >or the chairs >the elevators sort of work >redstone is wonky >the drawbridge doesn't actually move >the cannons don't shoot >its sort of decorative >you can sleep in the bed though
Same vibes
2 years ago
Anonymous
exactly. there is nothing more mind-numbing than building/designing anything in minecraft. redstone is the only thing that actually allows you to use your brain, the rest is just tedious block stacking.
at least games like space engineers let you actually ride your designs and make them functional, but minecraft and fallout is all just static shit that you only build for the sake of stacking blocks like a kid at kindergarten.
Hey now I love minecraft for that being able to stack literal blocks into any cool thing I want mindlessly and endlessly.
Tho your right in Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive and the possibility for making aesthetic or expressive things in rather hard as it's all extremely limited and uses pre-made assets
>in Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive
That's exactly my point. You can build a base, but it won't ever be relevant to the game. It's all just busywork for people who want to build something but lack the IQ to actually create stuff outside of video games (or FOR video games, like maps, mods and assets).
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hey now I love minecraft for that being able to stack literal blocks into any cool thing I want mindlessly and endlessly.
Tho your right in Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive and the possibility for making aesthetic or expressive things in rather hard as it's all extremely limited and uses pre-made assets
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive and the possibility for making aesthetic or expressive things in rather hard as it's all extremely limited and uses pre-made assets
It all comes down to a single issue: Bethesda doesn't like people missing on content, to the point where it won't "punish" you with missing out on content if you don't have the proper skills/requirements. Thats why settlements can't be useful, because they are optional, and they can't make a bunch of content relying on settlements when they are optional and some people won't even use them.
For an easy example on the difference, Think of the Q35 modulator (arguably best palsma weapon) on New Vegas, which you find in Robco Headquarters I believe (The building with a bunch of mr handies asking you for your ID or the word ice cream).
To get the Q35 modulator you need to do one of the following: >Have 100 science >Have 100 lockpick >Have 7 Luck and choose the icecream option on the 3rd level >Investigate the entire building thouroughly.
If you aren't willing to do one of these things, the game won't let you have the gun. The gun is completely optional and, some would say, walled for people with maxed out skills/previous game knowledge.
Now lets look at Fallout 4. How would you get the best weapon of any class in Fallout 4?
To get the best weapons on Fallout 4 you can: >Kill legendaries >Buy them from shops >Mod shitty versions to the max with 4 perks that are only gated behind leveling up.
I could go on and on. You can tell that Fallout 4 is a game made for a single playthrough, in which noone could be left behind and everyone should experience everything. There are no rewards for making a unique character, you just access more medium difficulty safes and get paid more irrelevant caps for the same quests.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>100 Science >100 Lockpick
You don't need either of those you moron, you just grab the keycard from Isley's office
2 years ago
Anonymous
To get the Q35 modulator you need to do ONE of the following: >Have 100 science >Have 100 lockpick >Have 7 Luck and choose the icecream option on the 3rd level >INVESTIGATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING THOUROUGHLY
Frick's sake. You morons see more than 6 lines of text and inmediately start skipping them. Apreciate your game knowledge though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Holy bugman
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, bugmen love stacking blocks in video games all day long. it distracts them of their inability to build a meaningful life.
>Didn't interplay produce some of the best WRPGs ever made
No. They made boring isometric shit that only small penised virgins liked. Bethesda, on the other hand, made fun first person games that big dicked chads like.
Spoken like the living, breathing embodiment of soi. The appeal of shit like Baldur's Gate, Fallout 2, etc is completely lost on chinless zoomer homosexuals with room-temperature IQ such as yourself.
Are you calling a israeli person a liar, anon?
You realize you're also implying that all israelites are liars by extension of this, right?
And if they are all lying, then you are denying that the holocaust happened.
Is that REALLY a road you want to go down, anon? Do you really think you can win that one?
Look... Basically I'm just not gonna play any Fallout after 2... I know... UGH I know... I'm sorry!!! It's just that I'm not going to play any of them... it is all
Nice to have my choices vindicated. Eat shit nuFalloutBlack folk.
>activate the water purifier >but it's missing a piece >kill scientist >activate the water purifier >but it's missing a piece >kills the only people that knows how to use the purifier
Bravo Todd, god tier writing
Even normalgays think that FO76, FO4 and FO3 are shit deep down.
The real contrarians are people who watched "fallout 3 is bad" videos with millions of views, got butthurt, and spend hours on Ganker defending it as a result. It bothers you that real fans hate your baby game.
Its a company full of Randall Pitchfords. Where he's a lone moron lightning rod, Bethesda spreads the likeness across too much toast that is Gamebryo.
Todd, Emil, Chris, the lot of em. All of them were That Guys, all congealed into a single company.
>because people love it so much more than their own Fallout games
lol
Only nvtrannies believe this shit. Fallout 4 sold more and has more people playing it today. Shit, even Skyrim has more people playing it. NV is not loved more than Bethesda's games. It has a very dedicated cult but that cult is not nearly as big as the nvtrannies think it is.
You're right but think of it from Bethesda's perspective. That small cult dominates online discussion. Being Bethesda interacting with their fanbase they probably get a disproportionately large volume of discussion being NV related. That same loud cult will shit on Bethesda's works when asked if they like those too.
I'm not defeding Bethesda, but use your brain on how it would actually play out in practice.
The TES cult is much largely than the Fallout cult. I don't think they're intimidated. I don't think Bethesda actually cares much about Fallout. It's an IP they bought to make money and nothing more to them. They're just using it to try to make some fun games. They don't really care about building a lore or anything like that.
Considering Todd had a meltdown at zenimax for fricking up the lore in ESO while ignoring his own studio butchering fallout lore I would say you're right
Elder Scrolls is Bethesda's thing. Fallout isn't. It's that simple. That being said, it's hilarious how Howard cucked his original fans to make a shitty space game that no one cares about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Seethe about Starfield all you want, I'll still be buying it day 1
They don't care its a money making endeavor. TES can't ever get the limelight it deserves because at the base of it its a story about race realism and comparative religion. Its too heady and nuanced a topic to be mainstream, and Bethesda likes how "redpilled" it is but its not good business to have that front and center of your company all the time.
TES is one of the greatest IPs in existence, squandered because of many reasons. Its up there with LotR though.
Skyrim is one of the most successful videogames of all time you absolute mong
2 years ago
Anonymous
And??
TES as an idea is pearls before swine as "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim."
TES threads talking about CHIM and trains has more soul than Skyrim the video game. Its a property that is way more than any game Bethesda can produce. Even Morrowind was a pale shadow to what it could be.
2 years ago
Anonymous
All the lore comes from in game books you wiki reading poser
2 years ago
Anonymous
And the lore doesn't express itself well through Bethesda's rigid Ubisoftlike systems.
Skyrim did add to the lore well, but it was crumbs in a massive shitty game. I'm not going to sit here sucking morrowind's dick so I'll use Oblivion and its churches and pilgrimage questline to show they used to care about worldbuilding in the quests much more.
>nvtrannies
Are you 12 years old? Jesus Christ get off of this board you drooling fricking halfwit. NV and 3/4 are all fricking trash, but seeing brainlets like you take sides like it's fricking sportsball is too much.
Holy shit hurry up September, school can't start soon enough.
You do know NV is native to Steam while Fallout 3 was out for years before it came to Steam, right? Most people who played Fallout 3 on PC did not do so through Steam. Everyone but the pirates who played NV on PC did so through Steam because it's Steam exclusive. Fallout 3 would be overwhelmingly positive too if it was released on Steam same as NV but instead the nvtrannies and their brainwashing got there first.
Pirated both first, then got NV on a sale and left a positive rating.
Never spent a single dime on bethesda dogshit again after FO3.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Never spent a single dime on bethesda dogshit again after FO3.
I love this sort of shit because you think it's intellectual posturing but it just makes it seem like you're incapable of forming your own opinions and just subscribe to what the "cool kids" think.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>you think it's intellectual posturing
that's just you projecting your subhuman thought processes onto those that make you mad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But I'm not mad. I'm laughing at you. Because you're a poser moron. Why would you being a poser moron make me mad? You may as well be claiming I got mad because you wet your pants. That's just funny for me and nothing else.
Delusional. You can see Bethesda trying to do what New Vegas did with Fallout 4 (and failing at it, because they're incapable of good quest/faction writing). And even so, their baby is TES not Fallout -- there's a reason Skyrim has umpteen fricking re-releases and remasters while the Fallout MMO got handed over to a newly scrapped together B-team.
The second one was. The first was genuinely good if not alittle too dudebro (but still good while being dudebro).
The sequel was pure soi of neon and homosexualry. No idea what happened there. I feel a minidoc could be done on the weird bait and switch.
Felt like how Dead Rising 4 was advertised with "Frank's back baby!" and then he's a b***hmade weirdo.
>male voice actor in Fallout 4 is fricking great >trannies still be like "I only play as Nora because the female voice actor is better than the male one."
Because Beth doesn't know what Fallout is, as proven by the "itchy and scratchy" comment Todd Howard made in the run up to Oblivion with Guns 3's launch.
Unconfirmed (but probably true) rumors. Catty drama does tend to follow the guy like stank on my dick though.
I think I see more twitter screenshots of his than most actual women. He's always gossiping like a hen. Imagine how he is when not in front of his phone.
I typed "drama queen men" into google for this image, all the stock images have the same phenotye Avellone has.
Unconfirmed (but probably true) rumors. Catty drama does tend to follow the guy like stank on my dick though.
I think I see more twitter screenshots of his than most actual women. He's always gossiping like a hen. Imagine how he is when not in front of his phone.
I typed "drama queen men" into google for this image, all the stock images have the same phenotye Avellone has.
Fallout 3s story: >Multiple nuanced factions both aid and hurt you on your quest to help the people of the capital wasteland as you contend with a very deeply axiomatically motivated adversary in a complex plot
>eating food
having to pay money and forced to sit in a restaurant, have to eat it the way they tell you to, all just to stroke some homosexual chef's ego
>eating shit
organic, free, no utensils necessary, earthy taste, each shit is unique with its own nuanced aroma and texture, no obnoxious chef, can eat it straight off the street instead of having to go a restaurant
Fallout NV is for trannies
Fallout 3/4 is for chads
Simple as
kek look at this pathetic samegayging.
Only fricking plebbitors call themselves LE CHADS these days. Very reddit of you in general to advocate for modern Fallout games. They're shit and your taste is shit and you're probably limpwristed and impotent, with shit posture IRL.
>projecting >aka NO U R
Not projecting shit, I can just tell from the energy you're conveying in your frantic, malding posts.
I don't like NV you fricking moron, but even if I did, why do you care what anyone likes/dislikes? Could it be because your life is pathetic and you have nothing better to do than make 50 posts in a thread about some fricking 10 year old games that were made for dipshit casuals to begin with?
Maybe if you had bothered to read a book or two growing up you wouldn't need to be led around by large glowing directional indicators glued to a compass in the middle of your screen lmao. Apparently everything needs to be distilled down into a nice, neat FPS format for a thoughtless pig like yourself to understand/palate.
As if it wasn’t obvious. More disturbing fact is that Bethesda hates American and the West. Just take a look at Fallout 3, it’s been 200 fricking years since nuclear war, and things look more like it’s been 1 or 2 years, not 200. They paint Americans like helpless idiots. >yeah, because it’s Fallout
Nope. Fallout 1 is set 90 years after the war and people there had time to build new societies and even state cities.
Bethesda is just moronic and wanted their games to have the post apocalyptic aesthetic while also moving the timeline forward. It's not malice just stupidity.
>Never heard of them
No one believes you. >https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_bugs#Weapon_bugs
Fallout 3 & 4 do not have bugs like >When reloading a weapon one bullet at a time while holding down "Walk", bringing up the Pip-Boy and unequipping the weapon, one will fly forward at tremendous speed >Sometimes, when reloading a weapon that reloads one bullet at a time, after reloading the weapon will not show any movement animations >After reloading a pump-style or shotgun, the fire trigger may not work from 0 to 60 seconds after the reload. This also occurs with the cowboy repeater and lever-action shotgun. It may also affect more than the fire trigger. The Pip-Boy cannot be accessed, cannot aim, or search bodies and crates >All guns you load rounds into individually such as the .357 magnum revolver, hunting shotgun, and cowboy repeater may not work. It happens with all reloads whether it's firing every shot, pressing reload button or switching ammunition types
And there's a lot more than this. Obsidian made Fallout MORE buggy, not less.
>Fallout 3 & 4 do not have bugs like
No instead they have bugs like "literally doesn't function on modern PCs" or "target thing in vats with melee then go to the overworld and do a vats attack to teleport across the map"
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>literally doesn't function on modern PCs
Does it ever occur to you nvtrannies when you're literally just making up bullshit that maybe the fact you have to make shit up means you might be wrong?
2 years ago
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Fallout 3 has had trouble running on operating systems other than XP or Vista for over a decade, moron.
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had trouble != literally doesn't function
NV has trouble too.
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No it wouldn't boot without a work around.
Pretty amazing that it has a positive rating considering the average mongoloid would struggle to actually play the game
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>No it wouldn't boot without a work around.
False. I played Fallout 3 on Windows 7. The only issue was Microsoft apparently removed some mp3 library from Windows with 7 so the radio didn't work.
A.k.a reddit Rick and Morty scientism libtarded humor made for midwits.
That or simply shitposters that want (You)s
Gaslight and dilate. The NV troon's go to tactic.
why though? they literally have no reason to be so salty towards 1/2 and NV. they're beloved for a reason so why not keep the devs around? do they want to make shit games? becuase clearly they've kicked out most of the good writers they used to have
Emil Pagliarulo knows how to write nuanced and compelling stories in a concise way, unlike the low IQian obfuscation and virtue signalling of writers beforehand
No one said Fallout isn't funny. That's part of why it's good. If anything, Bethesda's Fallout simply isn't witty or funny enough.
True Fallout: Loud, sarcastic, cynical, isn't afraid of homage.
Bethesda Fallout: Uncharismatic people dressed as superheroes in a lame quest (that's the whole joke, I guess??)
>superheroes
you are confusing the all-powerful Chosen One (SuperHero) destroying entire countries/Factions with the jokester guy from Fallout 4 trying to kill his grandpa son
Whale from the Hithikers Guide
Separate special encounters, detached from the main game on purpose. >Also why do you conveniently shorten my comment?
Because I'm talking about FO1 specifically, dumbfrick.
The first screen in Fallout 1 has a reference to Pulp Fiction. Mentats are a direct reference to DUNE. Shut the FRICK up if you think Fallout 1 doesn't have references or humor.
>Shut the FRICK up if you think Fallout 1 doesn't have references or humor.
It does have some. It absolutely isn't >FULL of whacky, cringy, 4th wall breaking meta humour.
so what about the ghost that you see in the first fricking town if you go in at exactly midnight
>the ghost that you see in the first fricking town if you go in at exactly midnight
You never played FO1. Silence.
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>you never played FO1
and you never will be a real human being
why though? they literally have no reason to be so salty towards 1/2 and NV. they're beloved for a reason so why not keep the devs around? do they want to make shit games? becuase clearly they've kicked out most of the good writers they used to have
Fallout 1/2/New Vegas were made by completely different studios, Bethesda just published NV. Back when Fallout 3 came out they probably felt they could safely brush off all criticism of the game as being fat swesty NMA nerds, but then when New Vegas came out and had much more lasting appeal and is frequently discussed as a masterpiece while Fallout 3 is barely talked about outside of nostalgia for the early PS360 era or unfavorable comparisons to NV, they had their illusions about their ability to make great games broken. It forces them to acknowledge that people only enjoyed F3 because it came out at a time where no other similar games existed that were accessible to console players, and not because the game was as good as the paid reviews said it was.
I don't know if zoomers understand how bad the fall from grace Bethesda ate really was. Go to metacritic and read contemporary reviews of Fallout 3 and Oblivion. They in no way have that tone of "they're so bad they're good!" kind of meme cope they now do; it's absolutely sincere and total reverence, like these were important games everyone should play or be left behind. The tiny fringe of a few hundred NMA and codex weirdos and jerks that mocked it got completely vindicated over the next decade and now have completely won the public opinion battle about those games.
You are delusional.
Any Bethesda game is guaranteed game of the year before it even releases. They are easily the most popular studio with the most goodwill outside of fifa
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Fallout 76?
People still do want "Bethesda games" as a genre I agree; I don't think their space game will fail to sell. But the ice is getting very thin, and deviations from the TES formula like Fallout 76 are now obviously not going to be tolerated. Their dreams of extreme profitability stuff like having their own steam or selling mods were now very obviously never going to happen, so they sold it.
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Does anyone here live in reality? Fallout 76 has had a steady player base for 2 years straight. It wasn't a massive failure that everyone abandoned. Bethesda are still selling mods. They just released a frickload of new ones for Skyrim, a decade old game, not too long ago.
2 years ago
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76 went the ESO route and hooked some whales. They are merciless in shearing those sheep.So you are correct they found their audience it does not bode well for the rest of us.
2 years ago
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Fallout 76 was a spin off that despite being a technical mess and a never ending well for the "media" has managed to be an overwhelming financial success proving that Bethesda can shit out a half finished broken asset flip with 6 months of constant negative press and it will still be popular
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The reason Beth can "get away" with not becoming terminally unprofitable when releasing insulting shit was because they built up an insane amount of goodwill in the '00s and with Skyrim. It doesn't go on forever.
2 years ago
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It hasn't gone away because you use Ganker now moron
2 years ago
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It hasn't gone away because you use Ganker now moron
Bethesda couldn't get away with it anymore which is why they were sold off to Microsoft after a string of underperforming financial and publicity failures
2 years ago
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7.5 billion
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Bethesda was sold off because Zenimax Media was bought out by Providence Equity in 2007 and they went on to maximize profits as much as possible in the hopes they'd get a big return on their investment.
Not defending Bethesda's modern games but this is likely out of context given the different skillsets involved in making an isometric RPG and more modern 3D FPS games. He's not talking specifically about writers, and there's no guarantee anyone who worked on those early games kept their skill sets in the industry up to date.
I wish I liked those games more. Every nu-"immersive sim" I play just doesn't feel that fun
like so much obvious work and money went into Prey for it to be mediocre
Do you really like Prey? The structure of that game is so unbelievably dull. Like they did such an insanely bad job writing a push button plot to force you to go to every area of the space station. How can you burn so much good content that way? I loved the employee trackers at the security stations, that was such a good idea, it must have been a pain to implement. How do you frick up hard work like that with so much boring drudge
I mostly liked exploring the station. I think it's biggest issue is that it has no good antagonists. Alex isn't a good or charismatic antagonist and the Typhon are just a much less interesting version of the many from SS2
Colantonio also requested Prey to use the modified version of UE they had made and not the dogshit that is the Void Engine, which is why Dishonored 2 and Deathloop were a technical mess
Bethesda management is fricking moronic
I can read. Virtually nothing you said was true. Even the idea Void Engine is a technical mess. It's the Doom engine. Nobody accused Doom of being a technical mess.
I kept hearing people say Dishonored 2 was an unoptimized piece of shit but I had no issues playing it maxed on a mid-level machine and it never crashed or bugged out on me so I have no idea what the frick those morons were talking about.
>bethesda has a history of not allowing fo1 and fo2 devs to work on future fallouts
Mega based. Two of the key people from Fallout 1 went on to make Outer Wilds and we all know how that game turned out.
>we all know how that game turned out.
better than the bethesda fallouts, which admittedly does not say much, but what exactly was the point you thought you were making?
Fallout 3 and onwards is no longer Fallout. The spiritual successor we were always waiting for is Underrrail, not just because it's top down isometric but because it has the same focus on world building, in depth dialogue and in general making everything as detailed as possible.
It also doesn't use post-apocalyptic as an excuse to make 95% of the world empty.
Avellone peaked with Planescape and The Sith Lords.
Whatever goodwill made the perfection of FNV happen evaporated. Bethesda doesn't ever want proven inferior by another developer again no matter how much the company profits.
Starfield's a fool's No Man's Sky. This's significant because industry-wide we see standards fallen so low formerly AAA studios can't outperform indie startups.
I tried it, liked the lore, but hate the turn-based combat. The transition to realtime FPS in 3 was an improvement and everyone lying to the contrary is a noskill.
>Bethesda doesn't ever want proven inferior by another developer again
lol
Nobody fricking cares about Obsidian, you moron. They've made a dozen games since New Vegas. How many of them are loved and praised? How many of them prove them to be a superior developer to Bethesda? You're utterly delusional.
Obsidian are not a beloved developer. They just have a very devoted but small cult running around trying to brainwash everyone into believing they're really good when they're obviously very mediocre.
There's no quest in Fallout 3 about arranging a dinner date between a couple of carpet munchers. Fallout 3 has based quests like supplying a girl with a date rape drug so she can bang a priest.
>shchrierrrer
I swear this homosexual could say Todd Howard comes into the office and makes every employee polish his fat hog one at a time and morons on Twitter would believe it.
Are these bot posts? The frick does that guy have to do with this?
might wanna read the OPs image again
He's got a long history with Bethesda, and Bethesda is all too happy to tell the world about how much they dislike Jason Schreier.
Its ironically a DARPA funded black projects development firm shitting on their resident israeli agitator in the news. You'd be surprised how common it is in the Maryland area.
You thought Bethesda made video games?
KEK they are a contractor arm for alphabet agencies.
Do you think the combat sims Bethesda makes for the military have sex mods?
Why do you think the "I identify as an attack helicoptor" meme has persisted so long?
The army boys get into some weird stuff. Our sex mods and theirs look totally different.
>Its ironically a DARPA funded black projects development firm shitting on their resident israeli agitator in the news. You'd be surprised how common it is in the Maryland area.
>You thought Bethesda made video games?
Would be funny if the military trained on Gamebryo and it ended up getting everyone killed
Ladders got removed from mil breaching kits. Its easier to just demolish the building than find a good way in.
Consider learning how to read before using a text based forum.
Holy frick, what a moron.
DON'T INSULT MY HECKING WHOLESOME GODD HOWARD
Is Bethesda still salty that they will never be able to make a game better than Fallout 1 no matter what they do?
Most of the employees at bethesda have never even played Fallout 1. The deleted tweet that Avellone references is that people at bethesda are still really salty about how fans love new vegas.
I guess its too be expected that they would seethe that hard about New Vegas after watching the homosexual Emil present his writing style/technique video on youtube. If I had a narrative designer that moronic on my team I would quit after seeing his work and hid methodology as well. Frick me dude just get the world designers from Bethesda and get the narrative designers from FO1/2 and mix the gameplay designers together and that would make for a competent non moronic Fallout game. They could even compromise on location doing it in Texas so it dosent fall too far into Obsidian or Bethesda canon.
Emil "Books into paper planes" Pagliacci is a living proof that america is a cultureless void if someone his caliber can work as a lead writer or anything bigger than a pamphlet for a parking lot
>purifier purifies water in the most moronic location possible, at the outlet of potomac river where it enters the Chesapeake Bay making sure absolutely nobody enjoys the free and clean water that nobody but the hobos have ever shown to need.
it's kinda sad because emil worked on Thief 1 and 2 if I'm correct. he is looking glass alum. so why is he such a shit writer oblivion onwards??
If you want the most in depth realistic explanation you'd have to watch PatricianTV's 8 and 12 hour Morrowind and Oblivion retrospectives.
Long story short he excels at 1 type of mission structure, and he's actually really good at it. But its all he knows how to do and his wheelbarrow he draws from is full of this 1 type of mission layout. By the time you get to Oblivion he's done it 5 times now and is on his 5th string rendition of it.
As he's obsessed over it like a Director filming the same scene over and over again in every movie, the focus has stopped being on what the missions do for the overall narrative and have become an ouroboros eating itself and its characters. It becomes an isolated mini play that means nothing and has no stakes, but the entire main narrative stops when it happens.
I don't think anyone has the heart to tell him to control himself anymore.
He thinks Skyrim had the best dark brotherhood quest and Siciro is his best character. Emil has no idea what he's doing and his philosophy that "if you give gamers a story they'll rip out the pages and make paper airplanes out of them" ruins anything he can try and make because it's an excuse to not care since he believes no one cares
Emil problem isn't that he's bad at writing stuff it's just that he's better at writing smaller scale stuff instead of main stories and big narratives
>fans love new vegas.
*trannies love new vegas
Notice how no one replied to you? It's because you're a moronic homosexual.
That is all I will reply to you
I always thought that the anti-FNV spam here was coming from Bethesda employees.
People with jobs don't spam Ganker
What do you think I'm doing at work
That or simply shitposters that want (You)s
Or, and I know this is a mind twisting concept, people just disagree with you
There's a difference between having a shit opinion and posting threads about your shit opinion nonstop in broken English for hours and hours of every day.
You can stop any time you know
That's me.
even better
bethesda didnt even do the best 3d fallout
Haaahahahahah absolutely rekt. The only Fallout besides 1 and 2 worth playing is New Vegas.
*AT THE TIME* Fallout 3 was decent. It hasn't aged well, and fricking sucks these days without a boatload of mods. Fallout 4 is just dogshit. Absolute dogshit. Why even bother with the veneer of RPG mechanics at that point? Just make it a full-blown FPS.
The dialogue in 1 is still unmatched. Why do they dumb down a lot of these systems? That being said, bartering was broken in that game
More like salty that a glorified Fallout 3 mod is more beloved than the actual game kek
Other than the writing, Fallout 3 is a far better game in pretty much every aspect of design. Yeah call me a fricking zoomer.
It would be an insult to zoomers to call you one. You just have terrible taste.
>call me a zoomer
no that's being called a tasteless moron
I consider Fallout 1 to be one of the best games I've ever played and I didn't play it until maybe 2017 I think it was or 2018. I have yet to play any of the 3D Fallout games. So I'm a fan of 1 and 2 but played both many years after release. They are some quality games especially the first game.
Play New Vegas. Like you, I played 1 and 2 first. NV is a very worthwhile sequel.
>NV is a very worthwhile sequel.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
I finally got around to it after playing 1,2, and tactics last year and yeah it's good. Still has clear engine related flaws but you can tell it's trying.
Why the typed laughter? At least say why you don't think so.
Why are shit games ok when they are made by Bethesda?
I bet you Cyberpunk would generate zero backlash if Todd was behind it.
Name one shit game made by bethesda
I can't name only one.
Redguard
And if we’re getting into publishing:
Brink
Wolfenstein The New Colossus
Rage 2
Wolfenstein The Young Lesbians
Redguard is a truly underrated, groundbreaking game that impressed reviewers back in the day with the amount of open world roaming, fully voiced dialogue, and complex interactions it had, and being an old game with outdated engine, controls, and combat, it doesn't appeal to zoomers like you obviously.
fallout 4 and 76
4 is good. 76 isn't BGS.
>Fallout 76 is a 2018 online action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_76
yes it is BGS. eat shit fud spreader
All of TES. All of nuFallout.
Skyrim, Oblivion. Both are pretty garbo.
fallout 3, fallout 4, fallout 76, oblivion, skyrim. just to name a couple.
Daggerfall and 76 are the only outright bad games. The rest have redeeming features.
Morrowind.
death to bethesda
>Shreier, notorious shitstirrer and famous for his saltiness over being blacklisted by bethesda for leaking shit is shitstirring.
Gee, what a surprise.
Based muckraker Schreir revealing all the gossip these shit studios don't want you to know
>Based muckraker Schreir revealing all the gossip these shit studios don't want you to know
>Unless he's on good terms with them then they can do no wrong :^)
Don't fall for the israelite's tricks anon.
>Muh Blacklisted
>Todd comes on stage announcing how Fallout 76 just works and has 16 times the detail (just recently he tried to spin it as him being barely involved and not wanting to do it even though he lied about the game on stage and marketed it)
>It's a mess and, in fact, it does not work
>Journalists finally do the right thing at least this once and report it
>Bethesda gets butthurt and starts blacklisting half the industry for simply telling people that Fallout76 is dogshit
>Toddrones try to spin it as Bugthesda being "based"
I would rather trust a slimy plotting israelite with a baby leg coming out of his mouth over Todd at this point, frick off marketer
>starts blacklisting half the industry
One outlet. Just one fricking outlet got blacklisted. And it wasn't for saying Fallout 76 was a technical mess that sucks.
Bethesda in rage stopped corresponding to anyone that had negative criticism of Fallout 76
Actually, what really happened is that Obsidian bribed journalists to spread fake news about Fallout 76 because they were upset their IP was being "prostituted out" and so it was a good thing that Bethesda blacklisted dishonest actors in the industry.
See. I can make up complete bullshit too.
Nah it was way more than 1 outlet, and even included youtubers in said blacklist, and yes it was over Fallout 76 being shit, calling it "violation of copyright" for showing the bugs in video form doesn't change it
newbie
He was blacklisted before
I see Schreier is still salty about being blacklisted by Bethesda.
>HATE AAA corps
>HATE gaming journalists
no matter who loses, I win
The developer or the publisher?
>according to Schreier
Why does this guy have such a hate boner for Bethesda? Did Todd sleep with his wife or something?
Bethesda have dumbed down their rpgs so much even game journalists are starting to recognise the pattern.
Think about that for a second anon.
Frick off. He never talks about games themselves. He just talks about "the industry" and that amounts to writing defenses for studios he's buddy buddies with and writing hit pieces on studios that did something to piss him off. The question is only "What did Bethesda do to Schreier?"
Bethesda began tarnishing the rpg legacy of Fallout and Schreier could not stand for that.
Go to bed Avellone.
They stopped feeding him info.
How was he accurate about Starfield delays then?
While it may be company policy to specifically not give him details, that won't stop rogue employees from leaking stuff under the table anonymously.
For all that I despise the little rat, he's very well connected.
He was responsible for the intial Fallout 4 leaks and Bethesda pulled a lot of strings to have him blacklisted with a lot of other studios (for a time) in retaliation.
>and Bethesda pulled a lot of strings to have him blacklisted with a lot of other studios
You get evidence to back that up or are you just making it up? I can buy Bethesda cutting him off but the idea Bethesda can command the games industry is a bit of a stretch. If he got universally blacklisted then that means he's universally despised.
Could have been a Zenimax-wide blacklist, as they had a lot of studios in the portfolio before MS acquired them.
both fallout 3 and new vegas are fricking garbage alongside every single fallout game after 2
fallout is a RPG played from an isometric perspective, directly based on the tabletop RPG system GURPS. fallout 3 and new vegas are just shitty normalgay shooting games that pretend to look like fallout
this
oblivion with guns has become a forgotten meme
>Fallout series was dead without Todd
should have stayed dead
>AVELLONE NEVER WORKED ON FALLOUT 1 TARD
Yeah, he did. FO1 had a bunch of volunteers that unofficially helped work on the game after-hours.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Chris_Avellone_(Fallout)
Good morning sirs
Do the needful
>modern gaming
this makes me so sad
indie games are still the only hope on this soulless industry
Italianon why have you been in a Fallout mood recently anyways.
>IN FALLOUT 3 CHOICES HAVE CONSEGUENCE
I remember the giving water to the homeless man choice. I never recovered from these consequences.
fallouts 1 and 2 stopped being good the moment 3 came out
>thirdies keep shitting up the board
>they all unanimously love gayout 3
can't make this shit up
Good morning sirs
Do not redeem New Vegas
New Vegas is the Reddits
Fallout 3 is ForChans
I mean that sounds like it's for the best. Fallout 3, 4 and 76 are completely different games to the original Fallout. If they had a bunch of the old guard working on the new Fallout games then they'd start trying to add in stuff like quests that make you think about who's right/wrong or RPG elements, and not bloated dogshit features like building spaceships/exploring a thousand planets which is what they want for E3 showcases. Bethesda dropped the couple million or so people who played Fallout to go after tens of millions of people who wanted to play Skyrim with Guns
>Starfield flops
>Microsoft scolds Bethesda
>Bethesda kicks Todd Hackward
Could this save Fallout and TES?
It's a matter of when not if xbox take fallout off bethesda's hands.
>kick Todd out
>bring in some blue haired troony
>>kick Todd out
in Josh Sawyer
Trust the plan
Josh "I pay my 8 year old has a higher salary than my developers" Saywer is exactly who we need. Who but Josh "Taught and Taut are the same thing" Sawyer has writing second to none. Haven't you played his misunderstood masterpiece with the best ending in an isometric RPG Pillars of Eternity 2?
Simply put we must hand cuff Josh sawyer and Chris Avalon together and have like some other of fallout writer than I can't remember due to crippling sleep dep watch over them to write a good story
Cain?
Pillars of eternity 2 was a great rpg and had similar design as New Vegas. Good recommendation
I liked Deadfire. The ending was good it just needed another act of build up (perhaps flesh out the final area more because all I remember it getting there, crossing a bridge and finding Eothas - ending to POE1 had way better build up and an actual dungeon leading up to it).
Microsoft is used to lose money all the time, in fact they do it on purpose to keep the OS monopoly.
Isn't Todd just the hype man at this point? I doubt Bethesda would change for the better if you remove him.
Emil is the reason bethesda suck, not todd
>There’s a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person
And apparently gamers too.
Emil is the person in charge of the writing team, the worst part of a Bethesda game.
>i play games for the writing
You're cancer.
Good morning sirs
Do the sneedful
>Y-YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO EXPECT GOOD WRITING IN A RPG!
What's next? Your not supposed to expect good gunplay in a fps?
Considering how starfield is looking Bethesda gays may agree on that
You must be a very disappointed individual considering no RPG ever has had good writing. No video game ever has had good writing. This is a dumb medium that panders to dumb people. It's like expecting a children's cartoon to have good writing. You can't go beyond your audiences' abilities otherwise you will lose them.
I've played some RPGs with good writing. Planescape: Torment, for instance.
Quit being obtuse, you know damn well that better quality writing/dialogue makes a big difference in RPGs. I don't think anyone is expecting Joseph Conrad-level writing in their videogames, but there's a happy median there...
>hire talented novelist
>have noveslist write a novel
>transcribe novel to videogame
wow, it's that simple
(in b4 novels aren't good writing either)
>take all the credit so the author remains unheard of
I still don't know who the author is because while the game's narrative is top billing it isn't really advertised.
Robert Kurvitz wrote Disco Elysium and he was fired for being a dysfunctional drunk just like his self-insert main character so don't expect the same writing from any future ZA/UM title.
Thanks for actually filling me in anon, you're good people.
A shame about the firing, but not surprising. DE let me down but the way the convo trees worked was not part of it.
That's a shame.
I thought the pregnant woman protagonist was already way too ambitious
>founded
>fired as founder
idk. I watched a documentary and there were ups and downs but don't remember anything about him being fired... they all squatted a building with no roof, electricity or water in Estonia. I don't think a single one of them is really functioning...
He was a founder, but it wasn't his company. This is what was made available to the public https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/r1zhtm/robert_kurvitz_left_zaum/
>commie game
opinion discarder
>inb4 hurrdurr it makes fun of all politics
>says the commie as he ignores that helping the commie self insert is the only way to get the good ending
RPGs aren't about "good writing", as you're calling it (by which I mean you assume you really mean "lots of words". They're about creating fun or interesting premises and letting the player choose and interact with them. And yeah, RPGs usually have more story than most games, since that's part of the appeal (ie, roleplaying and pretending you're a character in another world). If you don't find that fun, try something else.
>They're about creating fun or interesting premises
That doesn't explain why NV is considered to have "good writing"? NV is the opposite of fun and interesting.
My guess is that you have to be into the whole american western type of style to appreciate it. Personally, I like the atmosphere of FO3 more, but I definitely prefer the writing and gameplay of NV.
Because NV has lots of fun ideas, attention to detail, vivid characters/lore.
Whereas Fallout 3 nonsensically rehashes some stuff without being dedicated to it.
NV was a solid end to the Fallout1/2 storyline.
That's my take on it
The fully free faction choice in a war with entirely new entities and their different take of human history, each seeing their as a solution for the post apocalypse feels like an actual proper closure for the franchise
Any proper sequel to the Fallout games would be nice but thematically feel redundant enough that I'm ok with Fallout 1, 2 and NV already
You dumb ape.
The creation of a game can be attributed to a whole team, the blame for it sucking to a single person. The team follow the lead of a director
Todd and Emil chose to make the games this shitty, not Joe Black who worked to make textures for a bunch of rocks and admor models
>Joe Black
Do Americans really?
Apparently yeah
ACTUALLY that quest has an optional part where you can give one of the scientists buffout or leave him behind. So it's actually one of the-most complex quests in all of Fallout 3. Checkmate atheists.
>Confirmed Bachelor
Who the frick added that there? Benny's not a gay.
Todd brought Emil
He was the only credited director of every BGS game, and the fact that his boyfriend Emil Pagliarulo keeps being in charge of the writing shows Todd is a big part of why those games fricking suck
According to the Fallout 76 devs, Todd would pop into the office periodically, shit all over all their ideas, and tell them what to do instead. No NPC's was Todd's idea, computer terminal quests looking for people you already know are dead was Todd. They called it seagulling
>According to the Fallout 76 devs, Todd would pop into the office periodically, shit all over all their ideas, and tell them what to do instead.
Based.
One of the more funny stories of 76's development. The whole game is just one sad wreck.
My favorite thing is still how they tried to cheap out with a nylon bag in the collector's edition, but the backlash was so strong, they were actually forced to get everyone a canvas bag.
also the little helmet you got from the 76 collectors edition was painted with cheap, toxic paint. had to be recalled. hahahahah
That was Gamestop. Nothing to do with Bethesda. And it wasn't toxic paint. Some fabric component had mold on it.
>They called it seagulling
Todd isn't tall enough to be a seagull, should have called it finching.
Not really. The problems Bethesda games have aren't Todd Howard's fault just because he's the face of the company.
As NV and Morrowind both demonstrated, the blame largely falls on the quest design and writing teams for failing to design good quest lines and fricking up the world building.
Personally, I still blame that homosexual Emil for being a fricking bad writer but being so firmly entrenched at Bethesda with such authority over quest writing and design that they can't get rid of him.
>the blame largely falls on the quest design and writing teams
Same people. And Todd is one of them.
>the blame largely falls on the quest design and writing teams for failing to design good quest lines and fricking up the world building
This is one thing that always baffled me about bethesda. They have the ressources and the time to design branching questlines and engaging stories, but they always go for the most MMO-like approach (skyrim infinite quests / guild quests) with some of the cheapest quests and writing I have ever experienced. It has gotten so bad that even normies started to meme about the quality of the quests (another settlement needs your help!). mind-boggling.
I'm wondering just how long MS will let their shitty studios keep on making flops before stepping in. They didn't step in to salvage the studios working on Fable or Perfect Dark yet despite it probably costing hundreds of millions so far.
Todd isn't the problem at BGS, it's the guys who got in through pure nepotism like Emil gayliarulo
Both are great games for their own reasons. And your opinion is nothing but shit bait.
Maybe they should hire Brian Lancaster then, if that's the problem.
Game?
brigand oaxaca
>according to Schreier
>according to Schreier
>according to Schreier
Reminder that both Avellone and JSawyer have denied for years that theres any bad blood betweem them and Bethesda and Schreier is the only "source" that such bad blood has ever existed. Redditors, Obsidrones and NV fanboys are the only ones still clinging to this idea because they get a kick out of imagining that Bethesda is salty over NV's "success".
Didn't 3 out sell new vegas anyway
It did, but mostly because New Vegas was so buggy upon release it was bad even by bethesda standards. They also missed out on a bonus for a metacritic score which new vegas fans endlessly seethe about even though members of the dev team like sawyer don't really mind and admit it was their own fault for not doing good enough qa.
>get a kick out of imagining that Bethesda is salty over NV's "success"
Who doesn't get a kick out of AAA corps being salty about smaller studios?
>about smaller studios
Once upon a time Interplay, the former employers of Obsidian, were a large player in the industry. Bigger than Bethesda were. Now Bethesda is huge and Interplay is dead and that's not because Bethesda makes bad games while Interplay made good ones and no amount of seethe and cope from NVtrannies will ever change that.
>that's not because Bethesda makes bad games while Interplay made good ones
Didn't interplay produce some of the best WRPGs ever made, like BG2, while Bethesda produced skyrim, fallout 4 and fallout 76?
Fallout 4 is a good game
Just not a good rpg
You can easily waste hours just killing shit and building pointless bases.
Probably why they decided to make 76 which seems to be just that with microtransactions
>Fallout 4 is a good game
but it's not?
>You can easily waste hours just killing shit and building pointless bases.
I can do that any other """survival""" game, and there my bases at least make sense.
>Probably why they decided to make 76
which is even worse than FO4
>I can do that any other """survival""" game, and there my bases at least make sense.
How is this a criticism?
Seems like you're admitting you just have a hate bones for Bethesda
>How is this a criticism?
because building senseless bases in a video game is a good sign that your game lacks depth and autists desperately try to get anything more out of the game than it actually offers. see any no mans sky discussion, in which all people do all day is share screenshots of their bases. it's basically kindergarten activity, but instead of children stacking blocks, you have adults stacking assets. it's completely unattractive to people who are looking for a well-designed game.
>check out this cool castle I made in minecraft
>well no you can't sit in the throne
>or the chairs
>the elevators sort of work
>redstone is wonky
>the drawbridge doesn't actually move
>the cannons don't shoot
>its sort of decorative
>you can sleep in the bed though
Same vibes
exactly. there is nothing more mind-numbing than building/designing anything in minecraft. redstone is the only thing that actually allows you to use your brain, the rest is just tedious block stacking.
at least games like space engineers let you actually ride your designs and make them functional, but minecraft and fallout is all just static shit that you only build for the sake of stacking blocks like a kid at kindergarten.
>in Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive
That's exactly my point. You can build a base, but it won't ever be relevant to the game. It's all just busywork for people who want to build something but lack the IQ to actually create stuff outside of video games (or FOR video games, like maps, mods and assets).
Hey now I love minecraft for that being able to stack literal blocks into any cool thing I want mindlessly and endlessly.
Tho your right in Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive and the possibility for making aesthetic or expressive things in rather hard as it's all extremely limited and uses pre-made assets
>Fo4 having shit meaningless base building as there's almost no incentive and the possibility for making aesthetic or expressive things in rather hard as it's all extremely limited and uses pre-made assets
It all comes down to a single issue: Bethesda doesn't like people missing on content, to the point where it won't "punish" you with missing out on content if you don't have the proper skills/requirements. Thats why settlements can't be useful, because they are optional, and they can't make a bunch of content relying on settlements when they are optional and some people won't even use them.
For an easy example on the difference, Think of the Q35 modulator (arguably best palsma weapon) on New Vegas, which you find in Robco Headquarters I believe (The building with a bunch of mr handies asking you for your ID or the word ice cream).
To get the Q35 modulator you need to do one of the following:
>Have 100 science
>Have 100 lockpick
>Have 7 Luck and choose the icecream option on the 3rd level
>Investigate the entire building thouroughly.
If you aren't willing to do one of these things, the game won't let you have the gun. The gun is completely optional and, some would say, walled for people with maxed out skills/previous game knowledge.
Now lets look at Fallout 4. How would you get the best weapon of any class in Fallout 4?
To get the best weapons on Fallout 4 you can:
>Kill legendaries
>Buy them from shops
>Mod shitty versions to the max with 4 perks that are only gated behind leveling up.
I could go on and on. You can tell that Fallout 4 is a game made for a single playthrough, in which noone could be left behind and everyone should experience everything. There are no rewards for making a unique character, you just access more medium difficulty safes and get paid more irrelevant caps for the same quests.
>100 Science
>100 Lockpick
You don't need either of those you moron, you just grab the keycard from Isley's office
To get the Q35 modulator you need to do ONE of the following:
>Have 100 science
>Have 100 lockpick
>Have 7 Luck and choose the icecream option on the 3rd level
>INVESTIGATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING THOUROUGHLY
Frick's sake. You morons see more than 6 lines of text and inmediately start skipping them. Apreciate your game knowledge though.
Holy bugman
yes, bugmen love stacking blocks in video games all day long. it distracts them of their inability to build a meaningful life.
>Didn't interplay produce some of the best WRPGs ever made
No. They made boring isometric shit that only small penised virgins liked. Bethesda, on the other hand, made fun first person games that big dicked chads like.
Spoken like the living, breathing embodiment of soi. The appeal of shit like Baldur's Gate, Fallout 2, etc is completely lost on chinless zoomer homosexuals with room-temperature IQ such as yourself.
Are you calling a israeli person a liar, anon?
You realize you're also implying that all israelites are liars by extension of this, right?
And if they are all lying, then you are denying that the holocaust happened.
Is that REALLY a road you want to go down, anon? Do you really think you can win that one?
Look... Basically I'm just not gonna play any Fallout after 2... I know... UGH I know... I'm sorry!!! It's just that I'm not going to play any of them... it is all
Nice to have my choices vindicated. Eat shit nuFalloutBlack folk.
I know you are mememing, but you really should not.
I want my time wasted in finding fun in FO3 back.
>activate the water purifier
>but it's missing a piece
>kill scientist
>activate the water purifier
>but it's missing a piece
>kills the only people that knows how to use the purifier
Bravo Todd, god tier writing
Fallout is hated because what Bethesda has done to it.
It's only hated by contrarian morons here
Even normalgays think that FO76, FO4 and FO3 are shit deep down.
The real contrarians are people who watched "fallout 3 is bad" videos with millions of views, got butthurt, and spend hours on Ganker defending it as a result. It bothers you that real fans hate your baby game.
Bizzare cope
If you wondered how pathetic Bethesda is, just remember that their logo has a vault symbol in it, even though they didn't create Fallout.
kek, is it really supposed to be a vault door?
If not a vault door its a gear to go along with Valve's... valve. Maybe they won that logo in a poker game or something.
It's a stylized version used for Fallout. Their actually logo has just a square.
Its a company full of Randall Pitchfords. Where he's a lone moron lightning rod, Bethesda spreads the likeness across too much toast that is Gamebryo.
Todd, Emil, Chris, the lot of em. All of them were That Guys, all congealed into a single company.
Bethesda malding
>because people love it so much more than their own Fallout games
lol
Only nvtrannies believe this shit. Fallout 4 sold more and has more people playing it today. Shit, even Skyrim has more people playing it. NV is not loved more than Bethesda's games. It has a very dedicated cult but that cult is not nearly as big as the nvtrannies think it is.
You're right but think of it from Bethesda's perspective. That small cult dominates online discussion. Being Bethesda interacting with their fanbase they probably get a disproportionately large volume of discussion being NV related. That same loud cult will shit on Bethesda's works when asked if they like those too.
I'm not defeding Bethesda, but use your brain on how it would actually play out in practice.
The TES cult is much largely than the Fallout cult. I don't think they're intimidated. I don't think Bethesda actually cares much about Fallout. It's an IP they bought to make money and nothing more to them. They're just using it to try to make some fun games. They don't really care about building a lore or anything like that.
Considering Todd had a meltdown at zenimax for fricking up the lore in ESO while ignoring his own studio butchering fallout lore I would say you're right
Elder Scrolls is Bethesda's thing. Fallout isn't. It's that simple. That being said, it's hilarious how Howard cucked his original fans to make a shitty space game that no one cares about.
Seethe about Starfield all you want, I'll still be buying it day 1
They don't care its a money making endeavor. TES can't ever get the limelight it deserves because at the base of it its a story about race realism and comparative religion. Its too heady and nuanced a topic to be mainstream, and Bethesda likes how "redpilled" it is but its not good business to have that front and center of your company all the time.
TES is one of the greatest IPs in existence, squandered because of many reasons. Its up there with LotR though.
Skyrim is one of the most successful videogames of all time you absolute mong
And??
TES as an idea is pearls before swine as "The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim."
TES threads talking about CHIM and trains has more soul than Skyrim the video game. Its a property that is way more than any game Bethesda can produce. Even Morrowind was a pale shadow to what it could be.
All the lore comes from in game books you wiki reading poser
And the lore doesn't express itself well through Bethesda's rigid Ubisoftlike systems.
Skyrim did add to the lore well, but it was crumbs in a massive shitty game. I'm not going to sit here sucking morrowind's dick so I'll use Oblivion and its churches and pilgrimage questline to show they used to care about worldbuilding in the quests much more.
>nvtrannies
Are you 12 years old? Jesus Christ get off of this board you drooling fricking halfwit. NV and 3/4 are all fricking trash, but seeing brainlets like you take sides like it's fricking sportsball is too much.
Holy shit hurry up September, school can't start soon enough.
>Newer game has more players than old game
Woahhhh
Interesting how yet neither of them has overwhelmingly positive reviews unilke New Vegas
It's really insane. 120000 reviews, and it ended up at overwhelmingly positive
Fallout 3 doesn't even work on windows 10 unless they finally patched it
You do know NV is native to Steam while Fallout 3 was out for years before it came to Steam, right? Most people who played Fallout 3 on PC did not do so through Steam. Everyone but the pirates who played NV on PC did so through Steam because it's Steam exclusive. Fallout 3 would be overwhelmingly positive too if it was released on Steam same as NV but instead the nvtrannies and their brainwashing got there first.
Pirated both first, then got NV on a sale and left a positive rating.
Never spent a single dime on bethesda dogshit again after FO3.
>Never spent a single dime on bethesda dogshit again after FO3.
I love this sort of shit because you think it's intellectual posturing but it just makes it seem like you're incapable of forming your own opinions and just subscribe to what the "cool kids" think.
>you think it's intellectual posturing
that's just you projecting your subhuman thought processes onto those that make you mad.
But I'm not mad. I'm laughing at you. Because you're a poser moron. Why would you being a poser moron make me mad? You may as well be claiming I got mad because you wet your pants. That's just funny for me and nothing else.
yup, definitely mad
Delusional. You can see Bethesda trying to do what New Vegas did with Fallout 4 (and failing at it, because they're incapable of good quest/faction writing). And even so, their baby is TES not Fallout -- there's a reason Skyrim has umpteen fricking re-releases and remasters while the Fallout MMO got handed over to a newly scrapped together B-team.
Cool fake tweet
It's not fake. He deleted it because it's bullshit and he got called out on it.
Suuure it is
they can't hate those games that much, DOOM is more offensive
The second one was. The first was genuinely good if not alittle too dudebro (but still good while being dudebro).
The sequel was pure soi of neon and homosexualry. No idea what happened there. I feel a minidoc could be done on the weird bait and switch.
Felt like how Dead Rising 4 was advertised with "Frank's back baby!" and then he's a b***hmade weirdo.
open up
toddu-sama, have you come to check the radiation in my apartment?
Go AWAY!
>male voice actor in Fallout 4 is fricking great
>trannies still be like "I only play as Nora because the female voice actor is better than the male one."
F1>F2>>>>>FNV>>>>>>>F3>everything else
Because Beth doesn't know what Fallout is, as proven by the "itchy and scratchy" comment Todd Howard made in the run up to Oblivion with Guns 3's launch.
think the reason why bethesda wont work with chris has less to do with fallout 1&2 and more to do with him being a rapist
Unconfirmed (but probably true) rumors. Catty drama does tend to follow the guy like stank on my dick though.
I think I see more twitter screenshots of his than most actual women. He's always gossiping like a hen. Imagine how he is when not in front of his phone.
I typed "drama queen men" into google for this image, all the stock images have the same phenotye Avellone has.
Based
>I believe this totally real thing that a homosexual game journo told me
Fricking SALIENT
Fallout 1s story:
>Transhumanism bad!
Fallout 2s story:
>Republicans bad!
Fallout 3s story:
>Multiple nuanced factions both aid and hurt you on your quest to help the people of the capital wasteland as you contend with a very deeply axiomatically motivated adversary in a complex plot
what happens to Ganker if posters like this get perma bans?
I'm serious though, they'll ban you if you call out pedophilia / coomerism / hedonistic identitarianism in neo 4-Chan post discord troony raid.
>Fallout 3s story:
>brotherhood GOOD
>eating food
having to pay money and forced to sit in a restaurant, have to eat it the way they tell you to, all just to stroke some homosexual chef's ego
>eating shit
organic, free, no utensils necessary, earthy taste, each shit is unique with its own nuanced aroma and texture, no obnoxious chef, can eat it straight off the street instead of having to go a restaurant
Name one nuance or thematic ludonarrative implementation in Fallout 1 or 2. You cant
your mistake was thinking I'm interested in engaging with you, I'm just here to make fun of you
Yeah, because you have no arguments due to your low IQ reddit microplastics and 5G vaxx filled brain. See the and dilate.
Wrong analogy anon
You are talking to pajeets
Fallout NV is for trannies
Fallout 3/4 is for chads
Simple as
Hello sir.
Best post ITT
Seethe harder obsidicuck
kek look at this pathetic samegayging.
Only fricking plebbitors call themselves LE CHADS these days. Very reddit of you in general to advocate for modern Fallout games. They're shit and your taste is shit and you're probably limpwristed and impotent, with shit posture IRL.
>Projecting this hard
>B-but samegay
NV trannies are so pathetic it's not even funny anymore
>projecting
>aka NO U R
Not projecting shit, I can just tell from the energy you're conveying in your frantic, malding posts.
I don't like NV you fricking moron, but even if I did, why do you care what anyone likes/dislikes? Could it be because your life is pathetic and you have nothing better to do than make 50 posts in a thread about some fricking 10 year old games that were made for dipshit casuals to begin with?
Maybe if you had bothered to read a book or two growing up you wouldn't need to be led around by large glowing directional indicators glued to a compass in the middle of your screen lmao. Apparently everything needs to be distilled down into a nice, neat FPS format for a thoughtless pig like yourself to understand/palate.
Oh look the NV troony is having a mental breakdown and shat out a wall of text. Lmao.
As if it wasn’t obvious. More disturbing fact is that Bethesda hates American and the West. Just take a look at Fallout 3, it’s been 200 fricking years since nuclear war, and things look more like it’s been 1 or 2 years, not 200. They paint Americans like helpless idiots.
>yeah, because it’s Fallout
Nope. Fallout 1 is set 90 years after the war and people there had time to build new societies and even state cities.
Bethesda is just moronic and wanted their games to have the post apocalyptic aesthetic while also moving the timeline forward. It's not malice just stupidity.
>le "vocal minority" cope
Imagine how humiliated Todd must have felt when he was forced to put Ranger armor on Fo76 to try to keep it relevant
Samegay
Bethesda reloading animation, after 8 years of development with the same engine (their own)
Old-Obsidian, 18 months of development with an engine they had never used before
Now showcase all the reload bugs in NV.
>bugs
This
is "working as intended".
Never heard of them so maybe why don't you show them
Fallout 76 on the other hand...
>Never heard of them
No one believes you.
>https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_bugs#Weapon_bugs
Fallout 3 & 4 do not have bugs like
>When reloading a weapon one bullet at a time while holding down "Walk", bringing up the Pip-Boy and unequipping the weapon, one will fly forward at tremendous speed
>Sometimes, when reloading a weapon that reloads one bullet at a time, after reloading the weapon will not show any movement animations
>After reloading a pump-style or shotgun, the fire trigger may not work from 0 to 60 seconds after the reload. This also occurs with the cowboy repeater and lever-action shotgun. It may also affect more than the fire trigger. The Pip-Boy cannot be accessed, cannot aim, or search bodies and crates
>All guns you load rounds into individually such as the .357 magnum revolver, hunting shotgun, and cowboy repeater may not work. It happens with all reloads whether it's firing every shot, pressing reload button or switching ammunition types
And there's a lot more than this. Obsidian made Fallout MORE buggy, not less.
>Fallout 3 & 4 do not have bugs like
No instead they have bugs like "literally doesn't function on modern PCs" or "target thing in vats with melee then go to the overworld and do a vats attack to teleport across the map"
>literally doesn't function on modern PCs
Does it ever occur to you nvtrannies when you're literally just making up bullshit that maybe the fact you have to make shit up means you might be wrong?
Fallout 3 has had trouble running on operating systems other than XP or Vista for over a decade, moron.
had trouble != literally doesn't function
NV has trouble too.
No it wouldn't boot without a work around.
Pretty amazing that it has a positive rating considering the average mongoloid would struggle to actually play the game
>No it wouldn't boot without a work around.
False. I played Fallout 3 on Windows 7. The only issue was Microsoft apparently removed some mp3 library from Windows with 7 so the radio didn't work.
don't kid yourself. Fallout 1 and 2 were FULL of whacky, cringy, 4th wall breaking meta humour.
The same kind of humour you would blast Bethesdas Ass for if it happened in Fallout 3 or 4
A.k.a reddit Rick and Morty scientism libtarded humor made for midwits.
Gaslight and dilate. The NV troon's go to tactic.
Emil Pagliarulo knows how to write nuanced and compelling stories in a concise way, unlike the low IQian obfuscation and virtue signalling of writers beforehand
>Rick and Morty
first aired in 2013. Get the frick out of here Zoomer
No one said Fallout isn't funny. That's part of why it's good. If anything, Bethesda's Fallout simply isn't witty or funny enough.
True Fallout: Loud, sarcastic, cynical, isn't afraid of homage.
Bethesda Fallout: Uncharismatic people dressed as superheroes in a lame quest (that's the whole joke, I guess??)
>superheroes
you are confusing the all-powerful Chosen One (SuperHero) destroying entire countries/Factions with the jokester guy from Fallout 4 trying to kill his grandpa son
>Fallout 1
>FULL of whacky, cringy, 4th wall breaking meta humour.
You don't know what you're saying.
>Flying Saucer
>Doctor Who
>Godzilla
>Crashed Whale from the Hithikers Guide
Also why do you conveniently shorten my comment? Its Fallout 1 AND 2, NOT Fallout 1
Saucer
Who
Whale from the Hithikers Guide
Separate special encounters, detached from the main game on purpose.
>Also why do you conveniently shorten my comment?
Because I'm talking about FO1 specifically, dumbfrick.
The first screen in Fallout 1 has a reference to Pulp Fiction. Mentats are a direct reference to DUNE. Shut the FRICK up if you think Fallout 1 doesn't have references or humor.
>Shut the FRICK up if you think Fallout 1 doesn't have references or humor.
It does have some. It absolutely isn't
>FULL of whacky, cringy, 4th wall breaking meta humour.
>the ghost that you see in the first fricking town if you go in at exactly midnight
You never played FO1. Silence.
>you never played FO1
and you never will be a real human being
>ad hominem
You sure told him.
so what about the ghost that you see in the first fricking town if you go in at exactly midnight
why though? they literally have no reason to be so salty towards 1/2 and NV. they're beloved for a reason so why not keep the devs around? do they want to make shit games? becuase clearly they've kicked out most of the good writers they used to have
Fallout 1/2/New Vegas were made by completely different studios, Bethesda just published NV. Back when Fallout 3 came out they probably felt they could safely brush off all criticism of the game as being fat swesty NMA nerds, but then when New Vegas came out and had much more lasting appeal and is frequently discussed as a masterpiece while Fallout 3 is barely talked about outside of nostalgia for the early PS360 era or unfavorable comparisons to NV, they had their illusions about their ability to make great games broken. It forces them to acknowledge that people only enjoyed F3 because it came out at a time where no other similar games existed that were accessible to console players, and not because the game was as good as the paid reviews said it was.
I don't know if zoomers understand how bad the fall from grace Bethesda ate really was. Go to metacritic and read contemporary reviews of Fallout 3 and Oblivion. They in no way have that tone of "they're so bad they're good!" kind of meme cope they now do; it's absolutely sincere and total reverence, like these were important games everyone should play or be left behind. The tiny fringe of a few hundred NMA and codex weirdos and jerks that mocked it got completely vindicated over the next decade and now have completely won the public opinion battle about those games.
No they haven't.
Yes they have.
You are delusional.
Any Bethesda game is guaranteed game of the year before it even releases. They are easily the most popular studio with the most goodwill outside of fifa
Fallout 76?
People still do want "Bethesda games" as a genre I agree; I don't think their space game will fail to sell. But the ice is getting very thin, and deviations from the TES formula like Fallout 76 are now obviously not going to be tolerated. Their dreams of extreme profitability stuff like having their own steam or selling mods were now very obviously never going to happen, so they sold it.
Does anyone here live in reality? Fallout 76 has had a steady player base for 2 years straight. It wasn't a massive failure that everyone abandoned. Bethesda are still selling mods. They just released a frickload of new ones for Skyrim, a decade old game, not too long ago.
76 went the ESO route and hooked some whales. They are merciless in shearing those sheep.So you are correct they found their audience it does not bode well for the rest of us.
Fallout 76 was a spin off that despite being a technical mess and a never ending well for the "media" has managed to be an overwhelming financial success proving that Bethesda can shit out a half finished broken asset flip with 6 months of constant negative press and it will still be popular
The reason Beth can "get away" with not becoming terminally unprofitable when releasing insulting shit was because they built up an insane amount of goodwill in the '00s and with Skyrim. It doesn't go on forever.
It hasn't gone away because you use Ganker now moron
Bethesda couldn't get away with it anymore which is why they were sold off to Microsoft after a string of underperforming financial and publicity failures
7.5 billion
Bethesda was sold off because Zenimax Media was bought out by Providence Equity in 2007 and they went on to maximize profits as much as possible in the hopes they'd get a big return on their investment.
>Fallout 76
tiny tina's wonderland
>Fallout 4
Borderlands 3
>Fallout 3
Borderlands 2
>Skyrim
Enderal
>Oblivion
Morrowind
>You
homosexual
>today Ganker fight for a company again, and again
>you can't enjoy videogames because companies make them
Brain dead take
>i'm going to get mad at company instead of playing the game
WOW, you are Ganker after all
>I'm gonna beat you like a red-headed stepchild...
wish we could hear combat taunts in nuFallout
Not defending Bethesda's modern games but this is likely out of context given the different skillsets involved in making an isometric RPG and more modern 3D FPS games. He's not talking specifically about writers, and there's no guarantee anyone who worked on those early games kept their skill sets in the industry up to date.
Do morons like OP actually think that Todd doesn't like Fallout 1, 2 or New Vegas?
>"I worked on Prey because the Director fought for it"
Based Colantonio
I wish I liked those games more. Every nu-"immersive sim" I play just doesn't feel that fun
like so much obvious work and money went into Prey for it to be mediocre
>I wish I had taste
Do you really like Prey? The structure of that game is so unbelievably dull. Like they did such an insanely bad job writing a push button plot to force you to go to every area of the space station. How can you burn so much good content that way? I loved the employee trackers at the security stations, that was such a good idea, it must have been a pain to implement. How do you frick up hard work like that with so much boring drudge
I mostly liked exploring the station. I think it's biggest issue is that it has no good antagonists. Alex isn't a good or charismatic antagonist and the Typhon are just a much less interesting version of the many from SS2
Did you just play through the game using the shotgun?
Colantonio also requested Prey to use the modified version of UE they had made and not the dogshit that is the Void Engine, which is why Dishonored 2 and Deathloop were a technical mess
Bethesda management is fricking moronic
Prey doesn't use Void Engine. It's CryEngine. Prey: Typhon Hunter uses UE4.
Why do you people always make up bullshit?
Learn to read moron
I can read. Virtually nothing you said was true. Even the idea Void Engine is a technical mess. It's the Doom engine. Nobody accused Doom of being a technical mess.
I kept hearing people say Dishonored 2 was an unoptimized piece of shit but I had no issues playing it maxed on a mid-level machine and it never crashed or bugged out on me so I have no idea what the frick those morons were talking about.
>I can read
No you clearly can't
>It's the Doom engine.
Heavily modified, yeah, and it was a shitty hackjob
>issues with consoles
Who gives a shit?
It has issues with High End pcs too
Christ Avellone
>Hates Fallout 4 and 76
>Only tolerates Fallout 3 because it was big budget fanfic at the time
Truth hurts.
>bethesda has a history of not allowing fo1 and fo2 devs to work on future fallouts
Mega based. Two of the key people from Fallout 1 went on to make Outer Wilds and we all know how that game turned out.
>we all know how that game turned out.
better than the bethesda fallouts, which admittedly does not say much, but what exactly was the point you thought you were making?
The Outer Worlds not Outer Wilds
Semi based. I wouldn't let any of the gays who made Fallout 2 work again but Fallout 1 was the best.
kys homosexual
Ok Chris.
Fallout 1 lifetime sales 225k
Fallout 2 lifetime sales 130k
They don't get hired by Bethesda because they don't know how to make good games.
>according to ~~**~~
Fallout 3 and onwards is no longer Fallout. The spiritual successor we were always waiting for is Underrrail, not just because it's top down isometric but because it has the same focus on world building, in depth dialogue and in general making everything as detailed as possible.
It also doesn't use post-apocalyptic as an excuse to make 95% of the world empty.
Avellone peaked with Planescape and The Sith Lords.
Whatever goodwill made the perfection of FNV happen evaporated. Bethesda doesn't ever want proven inferior by another developer again no matter how much the company profits.
Starfield's a fool's No Man's Sky. This's significant because industry-wide we see standards fallen so low formerly AAA studios can't outperform indie startups.
I tried it, liked the lore, but hate the turn-based combat. The transition to realtime FPS in 3 was an improvement and everyone lying to the contrary is a noskill.
>Bethesda doesn't ever want proven inferior by another developer again
lol
Nobody fricking cares about Obsidian, you moron. They've made a dozen games since New Vegas. How many of them are loved and praised? How many of them prove them to be a superior developer to Bethesda? You're utterly delusional.
Obsidian are not a beloved developer. They just have a very devoted but small cult running around trying to brainwash everyone into believing they're really good when they're obviously very mediocre.
Write a paragraph explaining why Fallout 3 is better than The Outer Worlds.
There's no quest in Fallout 3 about arranging a dinner date between a couple of carpet munchers. Fallout 3 has based quests like supplying a girl with a date rape drug so she can bang a priest.
It's enjoyable to play and characters don't feel like they're trying to kill me via cringe.
Don't be mad, just work harder next time Todd
>twitter screenshot
>from february
You should have a nice day OP.
super mongol americano
Where's dream boy when you need him.