>Bethesda releases another Next Gen Update for Fallout 4
>It not only breaks all the mods but it fricks up the game too
Jesus fricking christ, who is running the company, this is just pathetic now
>Bethesda releases another Next Gen Update for Fallout 4
What's more pathetic is modders seem to have a better understanding of what's broken and they don't even have the source code of the game.
decompilation is a thing, anon
>do 3-4 times the work as devs and have to put in more effort for less
>still do a better job
loool
to be fair, modders have been working with this game continuously for a decade now.
Bethesda, meanwhile, opened up a studio in Mumbai that exclusively hires people who fake their credentials and Fallout4 is the first piece of COMPUTER CODE they've ever touched.
Needful status, unneeded.
When will pajeets rise up and demand higher wages so companies will stop this insane slave labor cost cutting bullshit?
when their economy starts stabilizing and the pennies they work for wont cover their daily cost of living.
is this where all the fallout 4 threads are coming from?
there is no bethesda mumbai just like how no fallout game released in india
Bethesda modders have been working with the same creation engine pro bono for longer than most people on this board have been alive, meanwhile modern Bethesda is full of nepo hires straight from india.
>I'm too moronic to change my Fallout 4 file to Read Only
You did it to yourself.
So what actually happens when you do this and download the patch? Will steam say it's complete or does it stay in the dl queue foreverially? I haven't tried it, I only launch the game from vortex.
>and download the patch?
No idea but you can always downgrade it from the Steam Depots and then set the file path to Read Only and it will never update
you don't download it. steam recognizes there's an update, but it's unable to download it as long as the manifest file is read only. it says "update paused" forever
works perfectly fine as long as you launch via F4SE instead of the steam library. dunno if launching directly from a mod manager ot the exe itself works, probably does
In all honesty, how can you be a Bethesda cuck and not feel shame for being so shit at your job? It blows me away. It must all be soulless pajeets.
I'm asiatic and there's tons of hikikomri asiaticmorones worshiping bethesda, just like you said and also they even worshiping tv show, I can't bear them any more so had ran to Ganker
dont call yourself that, show yourself some respect
Honorary aryan
>inb4 you still get 20 FPS in downtown
Yeah people are now just uninstalling the game, this is just ridiculous now
>tfw have repack of this game
>tfw my mods all work just fine and don't have shitty forced updates
>repack
isn't it on gog?
New Vegas chads stay winning! Suck it Todd Howard!
currently nv and 3 don't launch on newest amd drivers on 6000/7000 gpus
NVidia chads win again
What? I have 6950 XT and it just works? Use DXVK.
>he boughted amd
>2024
>Still using Windows to play PC games
Runs fine under Proton
there's a very easy fix for it but I won't tell you what it is because you're a moron. go buy another GPU from jensen
>broken ass game that needs 10 different anti crash fixes
Just use special K and DXVK moron.
I think I'm going to replay Fallout NV for the hundred time
But i'm replaying New Vegas. 4 has no replay value.
Modded 4 > modded new vegas >>>>>>>>>>>>>> vanilla 4
Don't @ me
You know you can just not update
sucks for console gays. Unless you stay offline it will force the update.
>The peasant platform without mods forced to update
Oh noes!
>without mods
it does have mods but it has a 2GB limit so you can hardly add anything, on PS4 it won't even let you use mods with custom assets.
Good the update is barely anything, they had 10 years to play it, people are mad because there fake Amazon Fallout fans and deserve the game broken for them, I'm enjoying original unpatched on Xbox because i'm not a idiot and the update is being done by black girls they were forced to hire or something
The update is less than anything. It's a bug infested downgrade.
So if you updated you have no to complain about other than being a idiot for not waiting
The update was forced you moron. Nobody choose the update.
if you cared at all about modded fallout 4 you already had the previous working version installed and set to "only update when I launch the game", which you never did because you always launched through the script extender.
Here's the thing. I didn't run the game modded. I was excited for the "Next Gen" update. For two years I waited. And what did I get for my multiple purchases of this game across various platforms?
Worse Loading Times. And NOTHING else.
Unless you want to count the free horse armor paints for Power Armor.
nice reddit paste
Check out this fricking moron. He probably has sex and relationships with men.
>redditor immediately thinking about homosexuals and gay sex
clockwork
Oh you really are a homosexual.
Bethesda got this game running on base Xbone, current bethesda cant get it running on Series X while working for Microsoft. Pathetic, Todd will have to code it himself
>people are mad because there fake Amazon Fallout fans
based and true, frick the fallout tv show, nail in the coffin for the franchise after 4. only hope is bethesda makes tes 6 even more shit than starfield and has no choice but to sell the fallout IP
they did the same ting with their anniversary update to skyrim breaking all the mods that the commnuity did for years
I'm just glad I got it for 5 bucks and experienced basically the whole game (sans BoS homosexual shit or homosexual railroad). I didn't beat it but I don't care. The ending is me probably shitting on my son's gay robot slavery institute bs or joining it.
Works on my version
🙂
😉
🙂
>leave out other changes
>ignore that fixes from 76 and Starfield were backported so the game supports over 100FPS without issues
>nooooo my generic hourglass cumbrain porn mods are le broken!!!!!!
>it is important to note that to select 40, your display must be able to support 120hz
Huh?
>he genuinely doesn't know
It will look really stuttery because displaying 40fps is uneven on other refresh rates. 120 is a multiple of 40.
Bethesda's shitty engine is shit and you'll run at 40fps while it "runs" at 120hz. It's shit. The only fix is the high fps fix, but that's broken like everything else that depends on F4SE.
Isn't the fps fix just an ini tweak? That's what I did to fix mine when I tried replaying it s few weeks ago. But then I remembered how shit it is and went back to New Vegas.
120 is a multiple of 40.
60 is not a multiple of 40.
Displays don't come at 40fps. If you want to set your in-game refresh rate to 40, you need to have a display that supports a refresh rate that is a multiple of 40. Monitors don't release with a refresh rate of 80, either. The lowest out-of-the-box refresh rate that is both commonly supported and a multiple of 40 is 120.
You're a fricking idiot. The only mod I used was high fps fix and what you posted is not a fix.
>it's not a fix because... because it just isn't ok
>he needs a mod to "fix" framerates
You don't know what you're talking about and you're a poorhomosexual who can't appreciate over 60fps.
This is what your shitty game runs like now that it's broken again.
Frick off Todd and I hope every "programmer" working at Bethesda feels immense shame and commits ritual suicide for their incompetence.
>look at me I'm reaching 61FPS with a meme injector
I was mastering master-level locks with the game sped up like crazy because it was spiking over 1,000 frames per second nearly a decade ago, little zoom zoom.
What the absolute frick are you on about moron? Just stop (You)ing me.
>literally incapable of reading
No wonder you're bragging about getting 61 frames per second with a pointless injection of dxvk.
Why is it acceptable for a game to break past 60fps when I own a PC that can run it over double that
Uh saar 20fps is the most we run in India so is meny much bad for 60+.
my generic hourglass cumbrain porn mods are le broken!!!!!!
Good lord anon, you are fricking dumb. it break thousands of mods that use the script extender and coomer armors are not one of these.
Imagine simping for this dumpster fire of a multi million AAA developer that can’t even make functioning games in 2024, but you speak highly of two of the most onions garbage games that ever been released so there’s my explanation.
>nooooo my generic hourglass cumbrain porn mods are le broken!!!!!!
Yes
>Verification not required.
jeet defense force has joined the thread
it's fricking nothing
>all bug fixes are related to the goyim creation shop
lol, lmao
>Those three red lego pieces
What happens there?
it's Todd's cuckshed
>bethesda recognizes that to play at 40hz, your monitor needs to support 120hz
>no 120hz option
TODD ILL KILL YOU!
for legal clarification I must state this is a joke. Todd, youre a hack
>90% of those fixes are just console fixes
lol
The patch notes says the game only supports 60fps though?
Todd: it doesnt only support 60fps, it also supports 30fps, and even 40fps if you have a 120hz monitor!
why the frick would hz on your monitor effect the game?
my generic hourglass cumbrain porn mods are le broken!!!!!!
if I ever play FO4 again it's probably with rebalancing so I'm basically playing it like a tactical shooter or some shit because arcade-tactical is just some moron obsession of mine
I play it like that sometimes, doesn't take too long to get a small handful of mods installed that get the job done. What I would really like is a weapons replacer that works better than what's available now. I don't want to see those disgusting vanilla weapons anywhere in the game.
>nooooo my generic hourglass cumbrain porn mods are le broken!!!!!!
I had like 60 mods just to make the game run properly and not crash.
Like what? F4SE, the unofficial patch and address library are all updated.
Quality of life changes? UI fixes, releasing the Settlement Limit meant for Consoles, fixed dialogue system ect.
There's quite literally nothing to FO4 but porn mods, game is rancid dogshit.
Todd is really afraid of Fallout London.
I genuinely would not even be surprised if that’s what this was all about. The only thing I’ve looked forward to in years for gaming and that moron ruins it for everyone only to break everyone’s game.
Release the See and Dee Todd. Show those filthy limeys the true power of American culture. God won't save the king this time.
Whatever happened to the Nuevo Laredo mod?
Reasonably so. They spent the last however many years do exactly what Todd Coward should have been doing this entire time.
>The studio should just do nothing cause it hurts modders feelings when they improve the game!
the updates will continue and you can do nothing about it.
more like
>The studio should just let the game alone after people spent years fixing their shitty game
If they actually fixed it, then why did the update happen?
Seems like they missed a few things, oh well Todd will clean it up.
You're either trolling or fricking moronic.
In Todd we trust, troon.
This, Todd is on a comeback. Didn't you idiots see the Starfield update? They added actual maps baybee!
I had a look at the video they put out detailing what the patch was. It had one addition I thought was good (modular difficulty settings) and the rest was "This should have already been in the game"
>Actual readable maps
>Being able to place furniture and decorations on your ship, and buy empty habitats to fully decorate the entire thing
>Being able to respec your traits in NG+
at this point they should just rollback everything and pretend that this never happened
not my problemo tomodachi
Can the people behind OpenMW finish their shit so we can have an open source Bethbryo source port already?
Bethesda's engine (or more their use of it) is the most shit thing in existence.
OpenMW with Fallout 3/NV implemented would be unfathomably based. Like if you thought FO3/NV was already nuts with the level of shit that could be done just with engine extensions like kNVSE/JIP/JohnnyGuitar alone, wait until you see what happens when they have source code access basically.
>be me
>play vanilla
>only issue is having a shit PC with 5 minute load screens to the Commonwealth. This is 99% why I generally play 3 and NV lmao.
The 5min loading screens have nothing to do with your PC and everything to do with how their shitty engine works. If you uncap your FPS during loading screens, it will actually go faster.
By default, in mangohud this is shift+f1. The problem is you have to physically set your monitor to 60hz and fps lock it to 60hz or your frame times will look like
because their in-engine limiter is broken as frick if you fps limit below your refresh. No this is not a joke.
It's also not on a SSD so let's not get too hasty with our assumptions.
No, it's literally the fps. Somehow, the loading of game assets is literally tied to FPS in the loading screen. I have confirmed it myself. Even with an NVMe drive and a powerful system, the game still takes like 3 minutes to load into the Commonwealth outside of the gas station mole rat hole. I timed it. With uncapped fps it goes down to about 20 seconds which is still dogshit, but it's better than nothing.
>I have a crap computer so it was slow! 🙁
>This is Todd's fault!
Lmao
It has nothing to do with your PC and everything to do with the loading screen's tasks being tied to the render loop. Are you mentally moronic? Read before you comment.
I have a 12th gen i7, a 4090, and I'm running the game from a faster M.2 drive I bought. It's dog shit optimization. Bethesda is a joke.
*13th Gen i7. Not 12th.
Shadowboost mod will help though even that + DLSS 2 doesn't fix fallout 4s performance, just a mess
dual 4090s and installed the game on a RAM drive
Even a literal renderfarm struggles kek
Yeah it's bizarre. Run my loading screens at 200 to 300fps to get them at some efficiency. Once ran them at over 1000fps accidentally while trying to configure and it was instant loading but didn't feel right
Quick google search shows you're right. Loading time is tied to the fps. My God. How can a company be this incompetent?
It's a mystery. Many of the bugs are very similar to FO3 and NV too and they've had at least 7 years since FO3 to fix their engine. Based on some of the Bethesdrones itt, even Slopfield has broken FPS tied to physics. I haven't played it, but if true, that's so humiliatingly bad it's unreal.
Is Skyrim loading tied to FPS?
I know it physics are
Probably. I haven't bothered with Skyrimjob in forever. The major difference in Skyrimjob is the assets are pretty small because the game was built for 2GIB address space so even if it is tied to FPS, it probably clears reasonably fast.
Starfields physics aren't tried to fps at all. Starfield was a pretty impressive engine update but it was over shadowed by all the bad design decisions.
Just disable the frame cap > Load
Enable frame cap > load
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Those FPS boost mods across the creation engine bethesda games have been doing this for a while now. Frame cap in game to maintain physics. Uncap during loading screen because lol
Their engine is just a travesty. I appreciate the mods, but wooo
Baldurs Gate 3 won.
Erictroony is on suicide watch
What was the point of updating the pc version anyway?
Todd is old and his new passtime is spreading misery.
to break the game so manchildren would do their marketing for them by b***hing about it for a month straight
https://twitter.com/PhoenixCry1997/status/1790069675600101827
Bethesda programmers at work. Look at this shit.
And it updated nothing. What exactly is next gen about this on PC? If anything it's a downgrade.
My confidence in Bethesda isn't very high anymore and it wasn't that high to begin with.
they learned absolutely nothing from the skyrim update drama last year didn't they?
>last year
They have been doing it with Skyrim for years and years by now. Adding in 1 shitty paid DLC that nobody wanted or bought, breaking the entire game every time, since it is added in the most moronic way possible.
The do it on purpose to try and funnel people into their new games that are so shitty people would rather keep playing skyrim.
>Caring about bethesda after slopfield
You can only blame yourself.
I blame you. You still caring after F4 shows you have zero taste and no standards.
How does it frick up the game?
It breaks basic mods like https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/44798 so it's basically unplayable again.
It broke people's installations with mods that they wanted and had installed. And it added horrendous load times. And upgraded nothing. The "update" is a downgrade in every sense.
PC tards forgetting they are second class citizens again. Based todd dabbing on pc cucks breaking their essential Futa & Creature 8k textured Megawiener modpack they cant play without lol
Just admit you're poor and jealous.
You see we will eventually move past this minor annoyance and return to enjoying the superior experience while you're still stuck there wherever they decide to leave you.
Half of the mods will not get updated lol modders abandoned this game years ago
Hey moron most coomer mods don't need the script extender to work as they are just mesh and texture changes.
>a time to laugh at bethesda
>platform war homosexualry
It has even broken vanilla installations and is all fricked up on consoles too apparently. Especially PS5.
What the frick are they doing?
The 6000 pajeets that made Starfield are all working their hardest on these patches, please understand.
Why are 3d modelers working on code fixes?
You can get a 100 of them for 2 cents an hour.
LMAO That's awesome.
>sofft
im fricking dead
Bethesda quite literally has no QA. They've been dependent on modders to find and fix shit for years while also shitting on them with random updates that don't really do anything.
I'm glad it is starting to backfire on them because frick them.
Look if you updated ots your own fault at this stage.
I replayed FO4 and was doing unarmed-power armor only playthrough. Then i got the last iron fist perk upgrade that completely broke my setup. It made it so im no longer able to get use critical hits in vats while wearing power armor, wtf am i supposed to do? Theres a mod on pc that fixes this but im on xbox and its not on the bethesda site. Anyone help???
You don't, you're playing on console so deserve it
Todd says he doesn't want to change engines because of ease of modding and how their mod system works.
My question is this: Is his reasoning bullshit? Could they effectively keep the same methods and ease of modding on a new engine that was much more stable and modern if they wanted to?
He knows it easier for someone else to fix it on a per game basis than risk it being harder for modders to fix when Bethesda fricks up with new tools and engines.
I do think it is bullshit. It is pretty much a known fact that Bethesda is mostly an "Old boys" club full of people who have just winged it for years and have no desire to learn a new engine or create a new engine.
The problem is all their devs are Creation engine (Gamebryo) shitters and it's hard to 180 on game engines when you have projects and deadlines to meet. What is surprising to me is why they haven't fixed it when they could have just paid modders for a license to their fixup mod code. (Many are GPL).
Anon, Bethesda can't fix and barely understand the games made in the engine they OWN. They have the source code, they used it for over 20 years. What do you think it will happen when they pick up something new?
yeah, look at the mods for unreal engines or idtech games.
Don't think so, no. That's the reason I always assumed. Half of the reason people like Bethesda's games is because of how easily they can be modified. They have to handicap the frick out of themselves to use this engine
Have you seen the strides OpenMW has been able to make lately?
The problem is that Bethesda has no, or few, engine developers still on their team. To upkeep a engine like this requires a certain amount of technical expertise and knowledge about not only the current state of the engine, but the history of the engine - so that you can envision the direction that the engine needs to head. What it's faults are, and what are its strengths, to not miss the forest for the trees.
Technical ineptitude isn't exclusive to Bethesda as of late. It happens with long-lived platforms with complicated codebases where the publishers aren't willing to bankroll a ongoing technical support team. Look at how Blizzard's Hearthstone has degraded over the years. You can do arbitrary code execution in the solo adventures they are so broken and Blizzard doesn't even care.
The games industry is suffering right now because developers have been firing these software engineers rather then keeping them. Decades of debt leading to broken, janky games that barely even work because the people that were supposed to make them work were fired years ago and it would take new hires way too long to learn a new codebase.
You can also throw in that everyone is becoming dependent on third party engines such as Unity or UE instead of development companies building their own engines and understanding the ins and outs of it. It's like game dev students coming out of school have absolutely no idea how to build an engine since they were just UE and Unity or such.
I can confirm this is the case.
Taking classes right now, most of the time they just throw us Unity youtube tutorials. There is going to be a whole generation of game devs leaving Uni that haven't even built a executable on their own before.
It sounds like grim times are ahead.
Bethesda has more than enough money to spin off a second team to begin rebasing onto UE5 or some other shit.
He chooses not to because their codebase has become an unmanageable clusterfrick and he knows that marketing allows him to put in the bare minimum and still move millions.
It's another Apple "too big to fail" affair. Bethesda will never go down, the same way Blizzard and Ubisoft are still propped up by mindless piggies who will buy literally anything with their favorite branding on it.
Ubisoft is a dead man walking.
You forgot rockstar. Gtavi is going to be pure shit but the massed have already decided it’s the best game ever. Its going to make zillions. That doesn’t apply to bethesda because starfield flopped, unless the fact that it wasn’t on playstation is enough to change that narrative.
>UE5
won't someone rid me of this troublesome engine?
>Is his reasoning bullshit?
No, most of the long-time modders for Bethesda games have been relying on knowledge and experience built up since Morrowind, changing engines would mean throwing most of that out and having to relearn how to implement basic coomer shit that doesn't work anymore.
Of course you could also interpret this as Todd realizing how expensive and long an undertaking it would be if he wanted to either switch to or create a brand new engine. It would still need to support the giant open world that can be populated with all of those individual physics-bound objects that can be manipulated at-will, while also being easy enough to make mods for, which is what Gamebryo's strength has always been. All he needs to do is look at what happened to Kojima and the FOX Engine to believe it'd be too great a risk to do.
>Could they effectively keep the same methods and ease of modding on a new engine that was much more stable and modern if they wanted to?
Yes
The main problem is that you need actual competent programmers to write a bunch of editor code to make the game as easy to mod
I mean our designers are able to add entire quests to our project just drag and dropping elements by themself because we actually know what we are doing
Another problem is the legality around using plugins, you pretty much have to use Odin and Rewired if you make a game in Unity and since you don't own their code you're going to need to cut a deal, shouldn't be a problem for a company like Bethesda though
They've been on the engine for so long working on it is probably like some warhammer scribe searching the archives for decades to find some piece of forgotten knowledge, so much spaghetti code it looks like the worlds biggest hairball
>Is his reasoning bullshit?
No. Changing engines because dumbasses know nothing about Creation is a really expensive process. Think about it, they'd have to train all their staff on a new engine that may not even meet their needs. And they've have to wait for the owners of the engine to implement what they want in their games. Most gamers have no idea how game engines work and just see the number in the sequel to the engine and think that it must be better. Most of them don't even know that the render and lighting engine between Skyrim and Fallout 4 changed drastically.
The problem is that Engine updates are expensive and can sometimes be more of a time and money sink than some studios can handle. Konami never saw a return on the $60 million investment that was the Fox Engine and it was extremely difficult to work with. Creation is so easy that experienced modders have been hired by Bethesda based off their mod profile alone.
Anyone suggesting that they "just switch engines" has a low understanding about the technical and business side of game development and only derive their information from e-celebs who also don't know what they're talking about.
>Most of them don't even know that the render and lighting engine between Skyrim and Fallout 4 changed drastically.
For the worse
Yeah, this. Bethesda's problems aren't the engine, the problems are entirely because they're incompetent fricking morons who couldn't design a good game if you threatened to shoot them. E.g Starfield being a piece of shit because they designed the game so you have to go through 5 loading screens in as many minutes.
Should've played on Xbox.
>powercorelet
Alright, at this point I think they are purposefully trying to sink Fallout London.
well, how would it look if a bunch of amateurs release the most well-received piece of Fallout media in almost a decade, over a backdrop of Bethesda bungling not only its handling of the fallout IP, but the stink from the actual fans concerning the fallout show, and also also the bafflingly dreadful release of Starfield. Fluffing up this game they gave up on years ago wouldn't be happening at all if Fallout London wasn't stealing good gaming "journalism" (advertising) coverage from the increasingly anxious ~~*((investors*~~))
>verification not required
I gurrantee you todd has never heard of that overhyped mod.
I think Todd is in survival mode to keep his job every single day now
Hanlon's Razor
Which does not excuse Bethesda being so incompetent that it has the appearance of malice
but enough about Pokemon
>Weapon debris still crashes the game
Shit's ridiculous.
>was planning on reinstalling the game after this "fix"
Thanks, Todd. Guess it'll be another couple years before this near-decade old game is semi-playable.
Guessing this is like the last update where actually barely any mods broke and the whole thing is perpetuated by morons that don't play these games
Microsoft should lend them some code jeets to get things working. They are part of a multi-billion dollar investment after all.
Is it time for Todd to use his microsoft bux and license the RAGEngine? Bow to the true open world chads?
>Takeisraelite selling their golden goose to anyone
Lol
read only the manifest
not my problem
>bethesda announces big update to F4
>basically everyone still playing it complains because it's going to break every mod (the only things making the game worth playing)
>it's just a bunch of technical shit modders fixed almost a decade ago
>release it anyway
Genuinely: why are they like this? Are they just stupid or is it malice?
Bethesda has some sort of fricked up love-hate relationship with modders where they want them to fix their games and make them fun, but also put in extra hours and money specifically just to frick them over. They talk about 'loving' their modding community and recognize how important it is, but keep putting out miniscule updates for their games just to break everything and add nothing of substance.
They've seriously done it like 4 or 5 times just for Skyrim and I'm only accounting for the major "updates", not even just small patches which still manage to frick everything up.
Only script extender mods broke, it's a tiny fraction of available mods
they only love one kind of modder, the kind that makes creation club content for them.
You can't make Fallout 4 good with mods. The story, characters and locations just suck.
Why do people act like the FO:London was the reason for the update? They announced that it was gonna be released around the same time as Starfield but was delayed due to Starfield being more popular. Like they had between then and now to release it and they didn't.
>Slopfield
>More popular
How ... I could tell from the trailer and stupid cover art it was going to be shit.
People hyped it up
Here is the link to an article about it
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/fallout-london-delayed-because-of-starfield-147128-20230703
>next gen
>present day
Can they go back and fix the dogshit story?
Why are people acting like this is the first time Bethesda has updated a gamebryo engine game?
What studio do you think will be given the reigns on a future Fallout release, now that daddy Microsoft is pissed there was nothing in the works. Won't be Bethesda and it won't be Obsidian (most likely).
I'm hoping Larian, so it can have gay Yao Guai sex and floppy penii.
It should be Obsidian but Microsoft and Todd would never allow this
inxile
Well maybe now you can play a good game. That isn't fallout or betheshit.
>turned off updates for fo4 prior to the show launching
Knew they would frick it up, my save has 400+ mods and works great except I have no music radio stations for some reason idk.
Can someone tell me just what the "Next Gen" Update brings to the game on PC? What exactly are the Updates? What's improved?
The game was released almost a decade ago so it's last gen. The next gen update makes it next gen.
What exactly is "NEXT GEN" about this update? My game updated. And the biggest difference I can tell is the added loading times. I don't see any graphical improvements. I certainly don't hear any audio improvements. The directional audio in Fallout 4 is awful.
What did they upgrade?
They added widescreen support in the laziest way possible. There was absolutely zero reason for PC to get this patch.
Ultra-widescreen. How many people have ultra-widescreens anyway?
I have a 32'' 1440 165 hz monitor so no I wouldn't have noticed ultra-wide. Wouldn't have that already been covered by someone's mod anyway? A mod they probably broke with this update.
I would've gotten one if they weren't so expensive. A 40" 4k tv for around the same price or less made more sense to me.
free enclave-themed content pack from the creation club :^)
fricking n words
Oh good. Free Horse Armor.
Absolutely nothing that we already didn't have.
No engine features backported from 76, no real perf improvements or bugfixes, and not even a fricking update to the VR version which hasn't gotten an update since 2018 and doesn't even support DLC or creation club content
Nothing. But they did break all the mods including ones that are abandoned, so there's that.
Boston performance is supposedly improved, but I didn't feel any difference, this update was mostly for consoles to stop crashing.
It's mostly just for consoles. Ganker will b***h about Bethesda ignoring PC and in the same breath say that there's mods for the fixes that they add.
Why do you all keep playing Todd slop? I disabled updates to Skyrim years ago so all my porn mods still work
They teased us with this Next Gen update for TWO YEARS.
TWO YEARS latter and what did we get?
NOTHING
Nay Worse than Nothing
Y'all motherfrickers need Talos
It's crazy to think video game companies just live rent free in people's heads all day
They live rent-free in the heads of people who play their games.
The GOG version was working. Don't tell me that you bought the game on Steam LOL!!!
As soon as the update came out I immediately downloaded the last previous version of the game from a torrent.
At this point M$ and Todd are just being petty over a fan project.
microsoft bought beth, so now you're getting constant updates. what did people think was going to happen?
All they had to do was make it so the game runs at 60fps at a higher resolution on PS5/XseX and they couldn't even manage that. There is literally no hope for TES6.
The newest dumbest hires are working on this, same people responsible for 76 launch while their best coders are working on Starfield DLC and hopefully FO3 remaster
>are working on Starfield DLC and hopefully FO3 remaster
They're not. They're not working on either. There is no competent team.
I really think newer hires trained on Unreal are clueless when it comes to Gamebryo, and their work is constantly fixed and this paralysis's the whole studio. There's no other explanation. This studio was used to Todd fixing everything before launch now he's too busy and they cant do anything. He cant retire while their still using Creation engine
Why didn't they just do the Skyrim thing where they have a separate Skyrim: Special Edition or whatever the frick they call it with shit that breaks mods, but it's separate so people could eventually port everything over? Fallout 4: Ultra Edition.
because Bethesda doesn't care about their customers. Not anymore. Not at all.
is it even worth playing the game atm? i bought it when it was on that huge sale, but then the recent updates are supposed to be wrecking shit
The game's alright. Go find a torrent for the previous version of the game. You already own it.
To be fair, Fallout 4 fans deserve it.
I'm still playing my pirated game of the year GOG version, none of this affected me
I just bought this but haven't played it yet on my __PS5__. Should I wait then to play or just play it offline? How broken is the disc version of the game would I be able to beat it at least?
At least Starfield has ladders.
It's never coming out, isn't it?
stop playing SLOP fricking morons
They did it again? Wtf is wrong with these stupid homosexuals they need to just revert these last two patches and stop pissing on the modding community
is it still stuck at 60fps without mods?
yes
>didnt play starfield
>liked 76 a little with friends
>hated 4
>disliked skyrim
>enjoyed 3
>loved oblivion
>liked morrowind
Idk why it hurts me so to see Bethesda be this moronic
nothing with shartyparty jaks is based
So which one of those are you? Definitely a New Vegas and Fallout 2 I'm guessing.
None.
So definitely a New Vegas/Fallout 2 on the chart. If you were actually none you wouldn't have replied but the defensive nature of your reply says it all.
>noo you can't reply to me or you are defensive!
Love shartyparty children, you are all a blast to frick with.
Based. Master and the muties were cooler then the Enclave
>can't play Sim Settlements 2
Thanks a lot frick faces
every single fallout fan is a massive homosexual who likes arguing about literally nothing.
>every single [video game] fan is a massive homosexual who likes arguing about literally nothing
where do you think we are?
>no new game plus
Why though
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/56984
>there are still brigaded Snoy discord threads seething about Bethesda
You don't need a brigade to see that current year bethesda is acting real moronic sir. Why did they have to push the "next gen" update on pc?
>push
>announced 2 years ago
>never had to update
>can still downgrade at will
>push
You don't fool me. None of you fool me.
The update is sitting in my steam download queue right now, and will continue to sit there so long as f4se exists. I'm not sure what part of that you didn't understand
Yeah but that still has nothing to do with pushing out a "next gen" update to pc. There is no "next gen" on pc, there was absolutely no reason for them to release that update for anyone other than console shitters
>I'm not sure what part of that you didn't understand
That's funny, since you're obviously the one that didn't understand.
As your very own anecdote illustrates, the update was not "pushed" on anyone in any sense of the term.
Are you esl? I'm genuinely curious
Give me the definition of "push" you had in mind then, so I can tell you why you're wrong in a more specific way.
You can't launch the game through steam without updating it
That is not true and even if you updated on accident, you can still downgrade.
So, yep, you're still wrong. Nobody forced an update on you.
>you can still downgrade
By jumping through a series of hoops. The intention was clear, you can't play the game without updating. Therefore, it was pushed, or forced, if you will.
If the intent was to make you unable to play without updating, they would have actually done that, instead of not doing it. That seems like pretty easy logic to follow, doesn't it?
You are a dishonest Snoy hanging out in some Discord with a bunch of other losers just like you. You might fool the casual moron on Ganker, but I see right through you because I have actually played and modded these games.
>they would have actually done that
That's exactly what they did though lol. Without jumping through several hoops depending on whether you make that game file read only or a full rollback to the previous release, you cannot play the game without updating it. Also take your meds, you're starting to sound like an incel.
Nah, Steam's policy on updates is bullshit.
And it used to be good. I don't know if publishers bullied them into it or what but it's a shitty policy.
On by default, turn it off if you want with a simple option in the settings menu would be preferable.
It coincided with Rockstar forcing out an update to remove content from the GTA games that were on Steam so possibly, and we all know Take 2 has a reputation as being incredibly scummy and not beyond legal threats and intimidation
I can't really think of any reason for them do it other than something like that.
For a multi-billion dollar company Valve is usually pretty customer friendly, has been for a long time.
The change to their update policy has always stuck out to me as odd.
Bethesda actually had a pole a few years ago and it showed that like less than 3% of percent players actually mod their games with 3rd party mods from places like Nexus.
It's why they kept pushing the CC content. People were actually buying it.
>pole
SARS DO NOT REDEEM THE MODS
BLOODY BASTARDS DO NOT USE MODS
Stop using mods, chuds.
You have to be incredibly masochistic to mod Beth games.
Imagine fixing the games for free and the devs thank you by destroying every modding framework in existence out the blue.
Imagine if he releases a Next Gen Update for New Vegas just to ruin everyone's mods there too.
Everyone will remain on the previous stable version, like they did for Skyrim SE, obviously
I can guarantee you somebody would bomb their HQ.
>Frick New Vegas
Snoy-cope
Whys it a Snoy Cope if it's over PC Anon? Didn't we tell you if you weren't going to take your meds to just end it already?
Why did the London modders delay the entire thing when they could have just said
>Yeah rollback to the last update or stop it from starting automatically, then you'll be fine
Because a lot of people won't do that and will complain that it does work. People are morons anon, and it would reflect on the mod maker and they'll be under pressure to fix it.
Doesn't work*
I think most people who use mods would know have some understanding that an update would break them. Just put on the mods page and such in big letters
>DO NOT UPDATE SAAR, HERE IS GUIDE ON WHAT TO DO FOR YOUR FALLOUT GAME IF YOU DID SAAR
You'll still get morons complaining but that's always going to happen no matter what because some idiot who's never modded a game before will try to play the heckin new Fallout game and inevitably frick up somewhere and blame the modders.
Those morons delayed the mod numerous times, with each reasoning get stupider and stupider (the prior reason was "uh starfields coming out so we'll wait until april the year after to release it")
I'm convinced it's like Cyberpunk and the thing barely runs and is not actually what people expect, and they're just trying to stall as much as they can.
>2024
>still doesn't keep separate install snapshots of any bethesda game he wants to play so that they don't get fricked over by steam updates