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>laser comes from the side
Then what is that big chunky thing on the bottom? Some sort of micro rocket launcher?
Silencer. Tube at the top isn't the barrel.
What the frick is the thing in the rectangular cutout on the top if not the barrel?
Maybe a tranq attachment
You can see that the top part doesn't extend all the way to the back of the gun so it wouldn't make sense how bullets feed into that if it were the main barrel
>URBAN EAGLE
I figure its hinting at gas operation.
Looks like a gas block assembly like an AK
>gas powered pistol
w- what?
>gas powered pistol
the desert eagle is, and this gun is called the "urban eagle", which is probably a reference to that
counterweight for stabilization
also what i thought. not sure how it could possibly work horizontally though.
Could be a gas block like
said. From the looks of it, it's probably based off the Mateba Unica where the barrel is located at a lower point than usual to make room for the gas block
Makes the most sense given that laser placement.
>I don't know how guns work: The Post
Damn son. Its the fricking silencer and behind that is a grip. Slide doesnt have barrel its under the slide
Maybe its a safety cover on the bayonet
It's a sonic dildo that vibrates at ultra-high frequencies capable of piercing flesh with ease.
It's a silener. But it's a new high tech silencer that doesn't get in the way of the bullet.
>silener
Oh no he made a typo, end of the fricking world.
Try reading some of the 400+ post thread before jumping in moron, the top tube is not necessarily the barrel
So you think the bullet comes out of the solid plastic brick with no hole in it?
the muzzle is in shade, you visually impaired wombat
You can't see if the block which looks like a suppressor has a hole in it, its dark. But that could well be in line with the actual barrel yes, and the top tube is some other shit
>it's dark
The actual muzzle literally has a reflection from the light source on it.
The muzzle on the suppressor might not be sticking out a bit like the top tube, so theres a hole there you just can't see it.
Angles foregrip
>shh, we don't want to get sued by Kriss but we need a Vector in game
Looks more like a Destiny fusion rifle.
It's the commando from halo, and it probably performs just as awful as that gun does
Silver detected. How did you feel when they rightfully nerfed it? It still outperforms the BR at any range on non-BTB maps despite the nerf too.
>instead of balancing the commando 343 just makes another version of it that does double damage
But why?
>RARE
I didn't watch the thing and haven't been following threads.
It's a looter shooter?
>It's a looter shooter?
Ever played Fallout 4?
you're just gonna mod a bunch of cod guns into it anyway what's the big deal
you can't just say
>perchance
maybe they should seriouusly start just releasing game engines
bigger bullet is harder to outsmart
mmm brick
kino design
>design inspiration from a middle schooler's notebook doodles
Bravo. Kojima strikes again...wait
The DS guns look sick dude, frick you.
That looks like ass. It does not however look like a nonfunctional mess designed by a moron like a bethesda gun though.
as a /k/ommando I appreciate the manner in which they fold away and how there isn't an infinite backback they all get shoved in to.
hyperion is now canon in starfield
G11 but SMG
how dare you make that comparison
Sorry, bud. They both look like shit and silly
She's beautiful on the inside she's just big boned.
my homie its supposed to be a gun not a clock.
more of a train than a clock my Black person
Why is that gun so tired?
looks cool
looks shit
Destiny 2 ass weapon design
all of them looked like plastic guns for kids
Literally tacti cool looking ass pipe pistol from fallout 4
someone please ninjarip destiny2's guns into starfield.
>the aimpoint pro is still being used far into the future
Anon, there was an AK and i'm pretty sure i saw VSS Vintorez from Stalker games. In Starfield.
IT. JUST. WORKS.
You just know some concept artist was jerking himself off to this design.
Glad those frickers will be obsolete soon.
Reminds me of Quake 4 guns, and i am fine with that.
i would call (you) a schizo, but Ganker's catalog is proving (you) right.
This reeks of RE4R levels of Cope.
would like to see more angles but I kinda like it
cute scope
please just fire this dumb frick thats in charge of weapons at bethesda.
Looks like something you'd see the police show off after a Brazilian cartel raid.
Notice how in these threads none of the firearm "experts" can ever actually explain, in technical terms, why the weapon designs are bad. It is always just either "lol so bad" or schizo rambling.
Is that Zip22?
Why are there two barrels?
>Bottom barrel takes silencer
what the frick is that short thread on top?
Maybe the gun is designed to trick your enemies by mixing up silenced and un-silenced shots in order to confuse them about your distance and position.
Sure.
Why is there a slanted grip in front of the trigger guard then
Its probably the mechanism to store in a quick access compartment on a ship or something.
Nah, that's just an angled fore grip. They exist in real life. Whoever designed this just slapped every piece of tacticool gun paraphernalia they had ever seen all on to one great abomination.
>yo how we tackle Deagle in Scifi setting ?
>how about make it Urban ?
>FAN-FRICKING-STIC idea, lad!
Its the 10mm pistol with barrel option slightly remodelled and the silencer moved down WTF
nothing gayer than some gay on a vidya forum trying to look cool with his knowledge of gun parts
Nothing gayer than some pathetic homosexual who believes himself superior to the people he spends hours with anonymously.
LMAO anon got your feelings hurt homie?
cool it, we're all impressed by you no need to post your mugshot
Thus spoke the frogposter
>redditfrog
back to twitter troon
>anons skills: knowledge of guns
>your skills: none
nothing gayer than a dumb frogposter
Can homosexuals who say "frogposter" stay on reddit and twitter? The 2016 election was almost 8 years ago you can leave now.
>nothing gayer than some gay on a vidya forum trying to look cool with his knowledge of gun parts
You showed him, anon.
Does nobody here know what a guide rod is?
This is Ganker, not /k/. I thought the same thing immediately.
Bethesda ship designs is going to be shit. No doubt about it. Fricking idiots can't design guns with cool aesthetics and function. How can they be expected to design cool ships?
>pic
Looks bad. Like those gay non-human ships in mass effect.
Shit taste
Good for you, Too Cool For School.
>Bethesda ship designs is going to be sh-
>4.99 on the creation club
I thank todd for giving us such a good meme
>someone builds the flying penis from Austin Powers
>someone
every level headed human decided they would make a penis ship while watching the showcase
At least zelda kids won't be playing this to make their hurr durr swaztika shite
Nazi UFOs will be modded in to prepare for the Antarctic hyperwar.
>that one lady that starts talking about building ships differently
>me: it's a penis, she built a penis ship
>it's a platypus!
>captcha PP
>shadman
jej
You're proving him right you doofus
If your spaceship you built has a shit design it's your fault.
> Here's one bucket of second hand duplo blocks, go build an architectural marvel and if you can't it's on you, homosexual.
Since you don't understand anything, let me spell it out for you. If the ship designs are modular and can be changed at will, then there will be ZERO smooth hull sexy ship designs. It will all be busy ass looking garbage, this is a disaster waiting to happen and only a decade of mods will make it any different. Just like Fallout 4, which I still haven't beaten to this day because the story is so shit.
>"NASA-punk"
>WHERE MUH SLEEK SPORTSCARS?
-it
>inverted parade colors
I can appreciate that at least.
FPA has better ship design to be perfectly tbh, kakka
the only good ship design in games and probably all media this millenium has been Halo up to reach
Homeworld mogs every other scifi ship design
imma need some sauce on that design for masturbation purposes
Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Go watch all 110 episodes and wank to all the cool ships.
I am more of a Battlezone Chad
And i will play starfield, frick anime designs in general.
>dude its like a giant penis
Japs can’t into ship designs (they can’t into any design tbf)
What's wrong with it?
Even as a /k/gay I'm willing to give Starfield a pass for rule of cool.
Its silhouette looks like they made a P90 and a Mk. 23 frick at gunpoint and this is the result.
The height over bore, the weird vestigial angled foregrip, seemingly having space for two guide rods, what looks like an AR-style safety selector, and plenty of other quirks make it a completely non-realistic handgun.
But none of that really bothers me all that much.
Top tube is a plasma thrower.
I'm surprised at the sheer number of guns honestly.
In Fallout 4 the gun mods were a huge selling point but they had to do shit like make combat rifles and combat shotguns from the exact same model and use pipe guns to cover the entire early game repertoire.
Yeah, the short bits of modding firearms they showed looks way better than anything Fallout 4 offered.
Personally, I'm a big fan of the Legendary Incendiary Calibrated Deep Mining Space Helmet.
Coor blimey thats a mouthful
And I thought the “legendary” weapons in fo4 were fricking moronic. Why is Bethesda like this? Modders are gonna have so much shit to clean up just to make this game playable.
>heres your flame enchanted AoE space helmet bro
Is this real? Are we at the point where games are just adding bullshit RNG item stats like diablo to keep people grinding for useless loot?
Todd is under a strong impression that quantity equals quality. Radiant quests, no level cap, random modifiers on weapons, these suggest that he believes doing infinite quests, grinding infinite levels, having infinite variations of the same moronic gun, etc means having fun for an infinite amount of time.
>Todd is under a strong impression that
And he is right.
eat shit, millions of flies can't be wrong
If I was a fly that would be sound advice.
but you're not a fly, are you?
anon's first encounter with metaphors
So it's a bad metaphor.
some people are like flies though. are you starting to get it yet? or do you have autism perchance?
Sure, if you want to stretch the bad metaphor further, I'll be like a fly and take the advice of other flies and enjoy things that are objectively good.
You can follow this (much better) metaphor instead
>objectively good
Wtf how did you know about my Mary-Kate and Ashley collection
eat shit, only a handful of gentlemen can appreciate the taste
>average recent playtime
>0.8
so many using skyrim just to jerk off
No it's use who installs skyrim once a year o play it but then realize it's shit and not fun anymore
>No level cap
The only good thing here. I should be able to scale infinitely in single player games if I put in enough time and effort.
Frick everything else tho.
Wait this game has Diablo loot? fricking
D R O P P E D
It's Skyrim in Space. What were you expecting
skyrim didn't have diablo loot.
>more numbers in an rpg is le bad
looter shooters aren't rpgs.
They literally are
they literally are not.
>RPG ceases to be an RPG with the addition of a feature I don't like
Why are you like this?
genres are literally defined by their features anon. that's literally how it works.
by your logic, Bingo is an RPG.
frick, you are stupid.
dumbass
???????????????????????????????????????
>Bingo is an RPG
it's an RNG ya dingus
bingo is a gacha
Please never post again, moron
The supposed point of Bethesda RPGs is to be immersive, but things like Freezing Flamer and Healing Fat-Man in FO4 are as gamey as it gets.
It's just slapping arbitrary stats on a helmet like +15 to dick size -2 lockpick used +3% damage to laser weapons.
Bethesda games have always had items that possessed stats and shit. In Morrowind you can enchant a sword to make you fly.
The looter shooter 'legendary' shit is cringe but I don't think it's that big of a deal. I'd rather have a Bethesda games where gear significantly affected how you play the game, like in Morrowind, as opposed to gear trivially affecting you.
TES is a fantasy genre where magic exists.
>gear significantly affected how you play the game
Well, the legendary helmet on the picture just slightly buffs a bunch of unrelated stats so yeah.
Yeah I've changed my mind, you're right that a helmet somehow making your bullets incendiary is lame and shouldn't be permissible. But in principle having context appropriate buffs on items isn't that big of a deal and appropriately fits past Bethesda games.
>a helmet somehow making your bullets incendiary
It doesn't even do that, it randomly "ignites attackers on fire".
How does it do it in the supposed hard sci-fi NASApunk universe? Psionics? Nanomachines? Tiny napalm injectors strapped on top of it? Who cares lol, certainly not Bethesda Softworks.
>hard sci-fi
Starfield is definitely not that.
>fallout 3
>has hats and clothing that give you strength agility perception endurance
>you were fine with a pair of overalls doing this
His point stands its Bethesda
>Pair of mechanic overalls gives you +repair
>random mining helmet makes you do fire damage.
These are not remotely the same thing, maybe if the mining helmet made you do extra melee damage or something I wouldn't give a shit. At least those were useful when trying to build something and fit the item, but random dhitty attributes on a helmet that have nothing to do with the helmet itself is just gay.
>Good Legendary weapons
>Cool gimmicks that actively change how a weapon works and how you play and Values that actually do something.
>Bad Legendary weapons
>It's just better stat wise with 3 random buffs attributes slapped onto it that are all mostly radically niche that require you to constantly farm the RNG to get one thats actually useful.
Borderlands did Legendary weapons better than almost everything else and it's not even close.
I don't really want my gun to shoot 3 horizontal bubbles that bounce up and down, thank you very much
Then get the gun that has infinite ammo and shoots 360 rounds per second
sounds gay as frick
It actually relatively did. A lot of the weapons and armours you find off random enemies and chests will give you a roll of a weapon based off certain modifiers just like how Fallout 4 does (which is where they even got the legendary effect system from anyway). You didn't think the random elemental weapons you find in random chests and enemies wasn't literally just that or something?
>"Oh that's not bad for just a random gu-"
>Realize it's a legendary.
>blue green gold red rarity scale
>percentages
>dps numbers
>level scaling on items
>stat bonuses on weapons
>all of these randomly dropped and generated
>pic
irrefutable
This would be fun if it wasnt a normalgay reddit game.
edit into something respectable then, anon.
It’s a helmet you dunce.
If wanted to take less damage we had a tool for that, it was called getting good
>they have played us
speak for yourself, consoomer cattle, I've never even played any of that trash
oh for fricks sake. its not even on the gun the time. somehow a helmet gives you magic fire bullets.
Nanomachines, son
Nowhere on that picture does it say it ignites your bullets, anon. It just produces a field that randomly burns people who attack? Or are hostile to you.
fallout 4 in space
it's so fricking over
that sounds like the phrase combination of a .hack field
Not many will get it, but I appreciate you, fellow .hack fan.
IMOQ remake wheeennnn
Man of culture. Played the PS2 games in prison few years back.
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titles in the pic moron
Borderlands and its consequences have been a disaster for videogames. RNG. Drops. Variants. Rarity. It's inescapable. Even ELDEN RING of all games goes by the universally-agreed upon gay-ass White/Green/Blue/Orange/Purple color-coding for rarity. Frick every developer that perpetuates this garbage.
>Borderlands and its consequences
You mean Diablo a decade earlier.
borderlands married the concept with FPS and introduced it to fifa playing console dregs. diablo and arpgs in general were pc games without as vast reach. borderlands absolutely was an instrumental part in popularizing tacked on numbers go higher rpg lite mechanics we see in 99% of games released today, even if diablo was the origin of these systems.
>RNG. Drops. Variants. Rarity.
That shit started with diablo you fricking moron, every rpg basically started to use them after that. Blame companies for fricking these things up rather than games that did them well. There's usually a reason why they're ripped off so much, and that's because they were done well and are good systems. It's just that game companies have no fricking idea how to properly use them and instead of cool legendaries you have +25% chance to do +5% extra crit damage for 10 seconds, +2 retry hack attempts, +10% damage to spiders.
I HATE DIABLO LOOT I HATE DIABLO LOOT I HATE DIABLO LOOT I HATE DIABLO LOOT I HATE DIABLO LOOT I HATE DIABLO LOOT
>legendary helmet is worth $1000
>plate of cooked bugs is worth $750
uhhhhhhhhhhh
Bugs are high in protein and a delicacy, and would be a gourmet dish in this world of deep traversal
Hi WEF shill
bugs can refer to two things, morton bay bugs are basically lobster. its nice with butter
Did Fallout 4 add on value to legendary items? It could just be the helmet is cheap despite the bonuses. The whole economy is pretty high, repairing your ship costs 1k flat and even a slightly modded starter pistol is worth 883.
Yeah I imagine the affixes the item rolls with add value to the base price. It worked like that in 4, each legendary affix and every mod/attachment in the game had a price modifier it added when equipped
Damn, those are some pretty cheap price modifications then if a legendary is still only 1k. Percentage based perhaps?
Probably just based on what the affix is and its power level/usefullness. Some common affix like 'carry weight' isn't gonna be as valuable as 'negates headshots' or whatever
>Blinged out gun from Taran Tactical costs 6000$
>One course meal from a 3-star Michelline restaraunt costs 12000$
>a fricking watch costs 200k because some italian mutt wore it in a movie once
deeeeeerp
>airborne resistance
Space AIDs confirmed.
It's over
This would go great with my airborne anti robot build
This shit is going to get modded out week one assuming it doesn't suffer the same fate as FO4
>ANOTHER looter shooter
frick offfffffffff
>No Borderland's Skyrim
The state that is absolute.
> Legendary item
> You cannot hear or read the legend
>that UI
minimalist sci-fi design is so gay and uninspired
whoah, 10%! they definitely won't be dead by the time that thing procs
>get low powered gun that fires like 10000rpm
>doesn't do much damage but stacks fire over and over
>tada, space flamethrower
Ignites nearby attackers, not ignites nearby enemies on attack. 10% chance to cast fire nova when struck. When enemy bonk u ten times u cast fire (usually). Habla ingles?
Sincerely why cant they stop doing this? RNG legendary drops in Fallout 4 were terrible dog shit.
This shit is worrisome.
The combat is gonna be horrible. You could have made some space-age on the fly weapon modding thing that actually gave people different abilities to frick around with, yet here we are with the legendary not pipegun that does incendiary damage. So I guess we're supposed to carry around 24 variants of the same equipment if we like how it looks rather than mix and match parts together to get the effects and the look you want.
Who cares about gun autism? Go to the k board.
Frick off Todd, you can't design firearms for shit
doesn't matter what setting they make the game in, every single pistol bethesda makes looks exactly like that some just have more rust.
top barrel is for if you want to shoot loudly
bottom for quietly
Whats the clip on the bottom for then tough guy
keeping a bag of bread sealed and fresh
so you can hang your space truck nuts from there conveniently
This will be the best game of the decade and there's nothing you chuds can do about it.
I think its undoubtedly going to be huge. Only question is how much of its momentum in modding will be taken away by the next Elder Scrolls release.
It won't even be the best game of 2023.
Then who will be best game in 2023?
I will.
Elden Ring DLC
Top bit isn't a barrel, looks like some sort of piston system. Stop being a homosexual.
again,
that looks ai generated
seethe more /k/tard
I don't mind if a gun looks cool but wouldn't work.
That just looks like a futuristic zipgun.
>zipgun
>Looks lame AND doesn't work
lol
>Weaponlet thinks the section at the top is the barrel when it's clearly not even attached to the chamber
I want pseudo intellectuals to stop talking.
where did OP say that?
The space Mateba they put in the game is honestly pretty damn ugly. Overly long and with a quirky cylinder.
oh yeah it looks like shit. just sayin its a real gun
the 12.7 mateba isnt real, it cant hurt you
what is it with russians and moronicly big calibers
there's this, theres ks23 and a bunch others
>what is it with russians and moronicly big calibers
Heavy engineering. Shit weighs a ton but it lasts forever.
>lasts forever
only if you're talking about guns
their armor and air breaks down every 2 minutes
I dunno anon, some of their planes are pretty impressive, so is the fact they pioneered space flight.
You cannot say that.
Why not? Does it dent the fragile american ego?
Can they really not cope with the fact that all their tech was stolen from German and Soviet engineers and scientists?
am*ricans didn't even land on the moon, shit was faked in hollywood
the fact that we still haven't went to the moon again in such a long time speaks volumes about this great "accomplishment"
don't forget the 6P62, their experimental 12.7mm LMG
The whole "modular gun" aesthetic works really well for me. It's great world building; logistics continue being the largest unsolved problem, transmitting goods is so expensive the manufacturing of goods has had to meet the needs of logistics, and cubic designs inherently utilize space better than cylindrical designs meaning you'll end up with a better economy of scale by producing goods that most likely have to meet some logistical regulatory standard.
>not going with the space VSS and AK
ngmi tovarich
>not going with the space VSS and AK
I never saw the ak, anybody got a screenshot?
it had a romanian style grip and the stock was missing or folded.
Space nugget where?
the space rectum
Expect bubba nuggets with space SKS magazines
you're telling me cdpr eurogays can design better and more functional-looking guns than americans working at bgs?
innate bethesda autism forces them to make the same gun over and over. I can't really explain it they just latched onto that shape for some reason.
>I just think its neat
pretty much
>what is blade runner
>what is fallout 1 and 2
Its like you are an under aged zoomer.
>what is blade runner
you don't have eyes if you think Deckard's pistol looks like that or you just have glaucoma
>what is fallout 1 and 2
they were shit and irrelevant when discussing Bethesda's FPS designs
10mm handgun in fallout 1 and 2 was a revolver for crying out loud. Just have a nice day at that point
I'm 99% their concept artist is a shitlib who hates and fears guns, doesn't understand how they work, and yet is tasked with designing them. that's why they're just square shapes with lots of greebles that don't make sense.
Gotta admit, for a fantasy gun a handheld "metal storm" is pretty cool. Hopefully they'll be useful
for gameplay purposes.
>/k/: thats weird, but okay
>Ganker: THATS NOT REAL
crysis 3 already had this, and yes it was absolutely as glorious as you can imagine
>brappp
would consider making this a gun for soldiers in power armor and have it under the label of shotgun given how fast it fires
>not talking about the gun that won 3 world wars
This gun will be around even in the grimdark future of 40k, won't it
Of course, just like anything AK platform
It probably is. MG42 or 34 is present, pretty sure I've seen M2 Brownings around also.
There's something about large, heavy guns that evokes something phallic deep inside me
It's only natural.
WAR
never been so much fun
WAR
never been soo mucchhh fun
WATCH THE BACK-BLAST YOU IDIOT
OOOOOOHHHH
OWWWWW MY PENIS
OOOOHHHH
I SHOULDA WATCHED THE BACKBLAST
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some things never change
It is.
Based emperor. If it was good enough to win 2 world wars it's good enough to kill xenos scum with.
How many ww has been in now
>My understanding is that this weapon not only predates the colonies, but space travel entirely. If that is the case then it's a truly venerable design, and one I'm told will continue to serve for the foreseeable future.
>-MB, on the Mae Dois
MUH .45 ACP
We've seen over 30 unique guns.
That's a little over how many Fallout 4 has with all its DLC, never mind how many of those are basically dupes (pipe vs pipe bolt action, combat rifle/combat shotgun/radium rifle).
Should be "about as much", forgot to count some energy weapons.
Borderlands permutation garbage is all
Not even closes. They're all distinct models that can be heavily modded.
kek they really do look like spit-shined borderlands guns
why are you people suddenly shittalking borderlands when they're one of the few games that actually got gun rarities right, i get whining over its writing but the gameplay and loot system is one of its best qualities
just because game companies poorly copied a good system doesn't suddenly make the original system bad.
>borderlands
>tacked on numbers go higher
thats not borderlands
borderlands is more gun gimmicks and base stats rather than random shitty niche attributes like fo4 legendaries or whatever fricking casual RPGs are
I loved the Emperor, even though it was inferior to every other legendary smg.
>you know... for him
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every single one completely devoid of soul except for the mag rifle.
A ton look cool
you have shit taste
>Ha! You get to enjoy the game more, shit taste haver!
Truly, my taste is a curse.
I never said bliss is a curse it could even be considered a blessing.
interesting. tell me more
Cope
>Oh my science it's just like modern art!@!
I give them points for having decent number of seemingly unique guns, unfortunately we really can't expect much from the FAS baby that is Bethesda.
the only thing that looks slightly interesting is that pistol in the very bottom left corner
I'm going to be real with you; None of these look good or interesting to me. I looks like someone who hates guns was forced to make these and did as shitty job as possible without getting fired.
These look like something that an AI would spit out when asking for generic futuristic guns
Thanks for the compilation if you made it anon, thanks for posting it even if you didn't.
That armor and helmet in the middle left is straight out from ME Andromeda. Gotta say though all of these guns look cool.
I like the look of whatever that white pillbox looking gun second from the top right is and would like to see more
also the cartoonish looking chaingun
Honestly not too bad for Bethesda anyway. The guns in the promotional content so far seem serviceable enough and we're probably going have a slew of modded guns ripped from other games like Infinite Warfare in less than a week.
Is it the same old Creation engine, right?..
I wonder if old tools will work out, huh.
Yeah they all look like shit except the top right one. They should have gone the Star Wars route and "futurized" a bunch of WW2/Vietnam war guns.
Joshua Graham confirmed
The Colt Commando had trench sights but close
>Bethesda weapons
the dardick the darDICK
dual feed mag fed revolver firing trounds. yes, rounds shaped like triangles. all fricks are gone. real life shits on bethseda
Real life really puts nerd vidya artists to shame. Crazy designs, super sleek compact designs, just tons of totally unique ideas from all over the world.
those kalashinikovs, 1 inch feeding systems bullpups. pretty cool
>space AK
>space vintorez
>space P90
>space double barrel (but it's four barrels)
gee Todd, thanks
Maybe you just don't know anything about guns, homosexual
This is less so a case of "That's not realistic." and more so a case of "That looks like shit." Shit looks like the a hk g11 mechanism except there's no plate or casing hiding all the inside bits.
go away /k/
yeah your right
and its a metaba, we figured it out ages ago
>go away /k/
Man I could give a shit on whether it works or not, I just want it to feel good when I shoot homies with it.
>yeah your right
Well of course I'm right. It's my opinion.
frick you, and uh, status quo, frick you harder. gotta play the part. ass.
What am I looking at? Why does it have so many moving parts? Seems moronic and is probably a b***h to fix.
It's the back of this fricker. Yes it's german. Yes people joke about german overengineering all the time. Yes the nickname for this gun is the "kraut space magic"
You're not an artist or engineer, G11 mechanism isn't even that CoMpLeX for what it is doing in comparison with AN94 for example, It's sleak and functional, Bethesda's guns look like kids' drawing in 3d
The an-94 is way less complex than the g11 with much, much fewer parts.
>in the future everything will be covered in extraneous doodads with no functional purpose
worst trope
90% of the doodads have a visible functional purpose on that gun.
Maybe if you're moronic
it's called NASApunk sweaty
I see you have never visited /k/
tacticool shit is not uncommon
Does this game have a gravity gun? If not, why not.
You guys are crazy if you don't think this is a HUGE improvement for Bethesda compared to Fallout 4
you're just mad you aren't strong enough to shoulder fire a water cooled maxim/lewis gun.
i cant find it but im 100% convinced this is based on a experimental gun the us tried in the 40s. they fricked it up but ive seent it and its real. i would shit on their graves, but ive SEEN it. everything wrong but ive seen it, man
modular system, circa the frickin forties. its a real gun
the only problem i had was that the pipe weapons were completely skippable due to getting a 9mm pistol right out of the vault
they looked very "fallout" but weren't useful at all
Seriously Bethesda Studios has had the worst artists/artistic direction in the entire industry for so many years it's ridiculous.
All their games have ugly armors, weapons, characters and environments. They have an inhumane sense of aesthetics, they're probably aliens.
Anyone know what the armor system will be? Helmets and suits would make things easy for them
So far I see
>Helmets
>Spacesuits
>Packs
>Apparel under the suit
Which feels like it's not enough slots. Are glasses counted as helmets?
Assuming they're still using a similar equipment system as Fallout 4, mods should be able to add new categories with some UI adjustments.
Might be the case that Categories only appear if you have stuff for those slots. That "total inventory" screen is missing a Misc Items category, which no doubt would be a thing in a Bethesda Game.
>They added a grenade hotkey, like all the fallout mod did
At least, they are learning! The 30fps shitshow tho...
>console players get frick in the ass as usual.
>it's not a platform issue, it's a creative choice
They're not even hiding the fact they know console users are moronic.
If people cared about 60 FPS they would play on PC wouldn't they? 30 FPS is good enough for most people.
Scream about cinematic 30 FPS and how the human eye can't see more than 24FPS anyway for years
>suddenly console plebs get uppity about 30FPS after getting a taste
Think they might be going for a mod-heavy approach. You bascally have one slot-equipment but a frickton of underlying modifications
Their artists are pretty good, the team running the implementation is shit.
With that stupid versatile armor system they had, they did some real stupid shit to minimize clipping, which really fricked with the final proportions of the armor.
>picrel
>Their artists are pretty good
the synth armor looked like shit both in concept art and implementation
>be Todd Howard
>get your highschool dropout buddies to design and animate everything in your games
>people wonder why everything looks like shit
I thought the guns looked pretty great overall. I liked the lever action (?) grenade launcher a lot.
i hate you, computers. i hate you with my soul, i hate you with my life, you have done nothing
hate
hate
hate
hate
google maps is kinda cool
FRICK You
>Any media set in space
>all the guns look like moronic shit or are just revolvers in space
are artists just gunlets and cant imagine what future guns could look like using Modern guns as inspiration?
even Star Trek from the 60s had cooler weapons it's ridiculous
The USP is 30 fricking years old dude
and yet it is still more modern looking than modern sci-fi that still use star wars WW2/western era guns as inspiration. this is literally just a Mauser with a scope
New guns are just like new cars. They're boring as shit and nobody fricking likes them.
I kind of doubt firearms 300 years in the future will be that radically different from now, for fricks sake the basic rifle form has been around for ever now
The kalishnakov and its variants has stifled innovation
STG44*
sorry typo
>are artists just gunlets and cant imagine what future guns could look like using Modern guns as inspiration?
Literally yes.
I'm gonna tell you guys something, and for some of you this may feel like a revelation and for others it's probably obvious as shit. Most artists and designers don't use real knowledge or studied references in their artwork, and instead their entire visual vocabulary is not based on real life things. Instead, everything they reference when trying to design something, is art that was created by someone else. Most concept designers don't know how a gun works, nor do they care. Because they're not looking at a fricking VP9 or Desert Eagle or MP5 and understanding what it is and why it looks like that, and then using that as a framework to extrapolate from. Instead they're looking at gun and tech designs other artists created for other projects, and just assuming that as long as it looks slick and cool, it's all good.
It's the same with armor, same with robots and tech, same with creatures and monsters. It's why around the 2010s, every single monster and creature just starts looking the same, because they were all products downstream from the creators they learned or cribbed from. Being original requires being clever AND knowledgeable. Being employed usually just requires getting stuff done fast, even if it's unoriginal or wrong.
You are a moron.
Anon, it's 5AM and you're shitposting for replies on Ganker. have a nice day.
>What are timezones
You are a moron indeed.
Get back to sleep you fat mutt.
ugly generic scifi-military shit.
why doesn't anyone hire whoever designed the guns in District 9?
i guess hiring an actual designer is harder than just having the already paid artist to just make another rendering of "Colt Revolver just with tubes"
going for that ArtStation feel
>1911, but worse!
Ngl, but irl guns getting futurified makes my dick hard.
They usually look cooler than shit like
anyways.
dont question the wiener itll only hurt
its because it takes already proven gun designs and adds onto them instead of just making boxes or a revolver/Mauser knock-off. i wish they would look even further since even modern pistols look more futuristic than movie/vidya sci-fi pistols
That's pretty accurate to real life, gun dimples are sexy and unfortunately skeletonized parts exist.
Yeah i'm not sure that can even be considered futuristic.
I think the problem is that the ejection port is on the front end of the slide instead of near the magazine well. It's moronic.
2/10 made me reply
That's not an ejection port, seems just that they cut a hole in it to shave some grams off. You can see the real one where it's supposed to be, facing right as god intended.
I want a future game where the ingame description of a gun like this is something akin to Snake explaining all the modifications to the original.
For what fricking purpose would you skeletonize the grip side pieces? You're gonna skeletonize the thing your hand has to hold, making it uncomfortable as hell, but you're not going to bother cutting metal off the chunky slide (except for that one random hole that kinda looks like someone didn't know what an ejection port is and just assumed it was a funky hole they cut in to look pretty and the placement doesn't matter).
Also I have no idea what the chunk of cage-y square metal in front of the slide is supposed to be. Again, it's like someone looked at a chunky muzzle brake, but didn't know what it was so they just thought that putting a chunk of metal in front of the barrel for looks is the cool way to go. Whatever that is would neither help brake the gas venting, nor would it disperse the flash, so I don't know what it's supposed to be.
Also what is that giant fricking door-handle looking lever on the side? And where is that wire supposed to be running to that it needs to be wrapped around the whole frame and back behind the grip? What, is there some sort of battery pack or some shit stuffed in there where the magazine should be?
That grip look uncomfortable as frick.
>Gun move 0.1" up or down
>Shred your palms into pieces
Wtf
So? It looks cool and at least it ain't pipe pistol tier shit again.
>They fixed it
It's shown in the showcase that this thing uses Caseless Shotgun rounds.
Whether or not you find the concept of a breach-loaded shotgun using caseless ammunition ridiculous is another matter, however.
If the caseless thing was an afterthought, wew what a save.
It's space game and the gun have pressure lock which mean it's actually a cannon, if you asked me to design a "shotgun" that work in space I would do the same thing, it's silly in the same way lever action guns are but some people are into that.
For me, it's Immersive Starfield Weapons Pack
>Starsenal-2.0-MODERN-FIREARMS.remix
God I really do hope modders actually get on board with the style and try new things rather than just port 21st century guns over. There's plenty of interesting technical inspirations that can be seen in Starfield's guns that just need a more ergonomically inclined designer to make shine.
>and try new things rather than just port 21st century guns over.
Yeah more variety for enemies is always nice, me? I will use good old P90.
you vill get COD weapon pack and you vill like it
Going off for how most fo4 weapons are just modern shit I'm not holding my breath. At least there are a good few irl weapon mods that use some wacckier attachments and shit some of them even a bit weird/sci fi looking because their weird experimental shit there's still no where near enough cool energy weapons mods and shit because most of the molders lack the artistic capability of designing something from scratch.
I'm not belittling their work allot of them do some cool shit just it's gonna be rarer to see sci fi shit I'd imagine just try virtue of I bet there's more people who can model stuff that's already designed then there are people who can do the whole as process.
>Guns of the Old West pack
>WWI weapons and uniforms compilation
>50s pulp pin ups
>custom radio stations
Yep its gaming time.
>plays fallout in space
I want a weapon pack that’s just retro oddball guns. The type of shit that you would see on forgotten weapons.
gunfu still unmatched
Longslides make me diamonds
>.22
How bout a gun that was really taken into space
Will a gun even fire in space? How will the powder combust without oxygen?
most bullets come with their own oxidisers in chemical form so they'll fire just fine in a vacuum
The same way solid fuel boosters work
Just mix in oxygen with the propellant
We're not in 1870s anymore
Or how about a gun designed for astronauts?
What astronaut specific features does it have?
Machete as a buttstock.
The frick do astronauts need a machete for homie, hacking through the space jungles?
aliens
Bethesda shooting without space VATS todd pls
>that bit where they cut away from the shotty reload
they absolutely know
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that kek
Todd has been reading your posts Ganker and hes not happy.
Well I'm not happy because this game doesn't have a sexy race of blue alien futanari ladies. I hope he understands that his space game can never be true ludo without that.
Better than CoD's designs
Facking hell
For me? it's the SMR
the smr did negative damage in zombies, it was the worst gun in the game except for the war machine
For me, it's the Mauler. Neopup looking side trigger having weird cable chaingun thing make my pp the big pp
hope they have a big machine gun that goes BOM BOM BOM BOM BOM BOM BOM
love low fire rate machineguns with high calibers
>love low fire rate machineguns with high calibers
Fricking based
>THIS VIDEO GAME THING IS NOT REALISTIC ENOUGH
Is there unarmed tree? I want to punch space dinosaurs to death.
STOP AUTO SAGING EVERY FRICKING THREAD I POST IN GOD DAMN IT
holy meds
More greebles! More! I said MORE!
So what's wrong with it? It's basically portable silencer without taking it off from the pistol, instead you just twist it into firing barrel if player want to be silence.
I hope they have some more original designs somewhere and not just space ak and space vintorez
if you shot an astronaut wouldn't the air hissing from his bullet wound send him spinning fricking everywhere?
Honestly the designs are not bad for bethesda, except they have a tendency to make everything too wide when you are viewing them first person. I just hope they don't do that shit where an auto weapon does a quarter of the damage per shot as a semi-auto, to "balance" it. I don't need balance in a single player game.
Yesterday's Anon was right
The cope Festival has begun
>no stats or SPECIAL
>just level up, get a skill point, put them into basic ass trees with really basic skills
It is an RPG so not sure what you expected.
Stats? Deeper stuff than %damage with melee or being able to craft?
You can pick a trait or perk to get the adoring fan. Yay you win .
You get both the spreadsheet and flavor perks/traits.
Bethesda are the undisputed masters of the RPG genre.
a good RPG and not a looter shooter like FO4
FO4 was a good RPG. Do you even know what RPG stands for?
>FO4 was a good RPG.
>posting the vatnik closet homosexual larper who got humiliated by fricking brazillian monkeys on the internet and copes til this day
Not him but /r/eddit is over there
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes but not now
4. Sarcastic Yes
Choose your roleplaying option
>yes
>no
>shoot them in the face
>ignore them and walk away to do something else
i mean its better fps rpg than most
>>yes
>>no
Not a thing
them in the face
They're marked essential
them and walk away to do something else
You'll be back to clear the quest in your log because you couldn't say no
>i mean its better fps rpg than most
lol
ok name a better fps rpg than fallout 4
inb4 new vagas, its shit
Fallout 3
At least F3 has good and evil karma that's 1 more option than 4 gives you.
>FO4 was a good RPG
Not an argument.
>nooooo stop laughing at me that's not an argument that's not an argumeeent!
Still not an argument.
Consider your surrender noted and accepted
anyone else notice how enemy armors didnt show up in the loot menu? looting is going to be massively simplified to basic looty shooty style.
I don't know, anon.
Something tells me that yanking out the body from the cheesed spacesuit is not funny.
Are they from Canada or California?
revolvers doko
in the frickin trailer, that's where
were you covering your eyes and only listening to the audio?
I love this game now because it makes gun autists seethe plus I love guns that make no sense.
My issue with the handgun design is the grip is too far back and straight, should be like pic
Also in first person it will probably be as wide as a brick like that shitty 10mm pistol taking up half the screen
The mag might not be in the grip, one of the other handguns shown took a top mounted magazine like a p90, could be why this one is so chunky
I mean I think it would just look better if it was like pic with the back extend a bit
It looks like everything above the small rectangle near the silencer is just a lot of taticool bullshit.
The add-ons are weird, but I legit don't know what OP's issue is.
They are just morons that hate Bethesda no mater what.
Ironically they will still play the game for 500 hours.
Funny how all the people defending betheshit in that kind of thread are using disgusting wojaks and pepe the reddit frog pics. Just like how clueless shills would, thinking they're stealthy.
first things first
>starfieldPrefs.ini
>iPresentInterval=0
who knows maybe it will actually have FOV straight out the box
When it comes to all-things combat (ie - weapons, armor, spells, move sets) no one does a worse job than Bethesda. Bethesda combat is so shallow and mind-numbingly fricktarded.
>combat is so shallow
You shoot things, what do you want? Its an FPS. What FPS has deep combat to you?
Bethescuck shill detected.
No I'm seriously asking, whats "deep" FPS combat? At least theres weapons to upgrade, skills progressions etc? More than half life had
not him but to me it would be CS, even 20 years in the players still improve
ok here we got another absolute clowntard, lets respecify, SINGLE FRICKING PLAYER FPS
that's just a matter of AI quality
Well think about oblivions spellcrafting for example. Thats a lot of fun to play around with. Or combining multiple enchantments in skyrim.
Or think about Crysis and it's "on-the-fly" weapon modding. In a tight corridor? Switch to full auto and remove the scope. Need to make a longrange shot? put on scope and snipe away. No trips to the workbench(tm) required and no carrying 20 guns around required.
>Switch to full auto
Every game particularly futuristic should have fire mode swtiching at least, rather than "this gun is semi-auto, this gun is full auto"
They should have at the very least the functions of actual weapons and more besides. Energy weapons for example should have the ability to adjust output - small shots, fast firing / recharge, or turn it up to a big blast, slower recharge, overheating etc
why can't bethesda into guns after nearly a decade and a half?
everyone made fun of the moronic PPSH shotgun in fallout 3, everyone mocked the universally ugly guns in 4 especially the assault rifle, why won't they do the bare minimum to make guns look decent and functional?
ITT: Ganker zoomers get schooled on firearm design by /k/ chads
ya love to see it
At the very least they look better than 2077's weapons but without veering too far into the future. Starfield unironically looks like the next sci fi weapon ludo.
The bolt is inline with nothing. Makes no sense at all even if you ignore the suppressor on the wrong hole.
>Ganker thread in which /k/ homosexuals getting anal annihilated over bethesda's gun designs that immediately get fixed by other gun autists
yawn
I swear to christ Bethesda devs/coders must be 100% pajeets or something that just keep inviting more over with flimsy bullshit degrees and shit.
It's the only explanation for how consistently mediocre everything is.