>Betrays Nintendo. >Goes bankrupt

>Betrays Nintendo
>Goes bankrupt
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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >betrays Nintendo
    >creates the super popular ff7 and ff10
    >Makes a super popular MMO that gives them money
    Like capcom and from, they don't need nintendo if they do things right

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ff7 was the last final fantasy designed under nintendo. The series has been downhill since. FFX was only 'massively popular' because it was the PS2 FF that sucked the least dicks compared to its peers.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao you homosexuals said ff7 started le cinematic shit
        I'm sorry ff7 was such a great success in ps1 and ff10 is still really loved and popular

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It did though. You read any review from the 90s and all they do is jerk off to the FMV cutscenes and prerendered shit

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you are saying nintendo pushed the cinematic thing?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The core design of FF7 was made with the intention of it being an N64 title. When it became a PS1 title they simply added a bunch of cinematic cutscenes and a giant soundtrack with the extra disk space.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you are saying nintendo pushed the cinematic thing?

            Ff7 was the last final fantasy designed under nintendo. The series has been downhill since. FFX was only 'massively popular' because it was the PS2 FF that sucked the least dicks compared to its peers.

            https://i.imgur.com/NNuNrHL.png

            >Betrays Nintendo
            >Goes bankrupt
            Lol

            I can't believe someone is mad about this still almost 20 years later. Tendies are moronic.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              What did you expect?
              Sonygays have been trying their hardest with these threads lately.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What sonygays, it's you crying and playing the victim after being laughed at
                You are too old to pretend companies are your friends

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What sonygays
                The OP? The one who's constantly butthurt about Nintendo to the point where he has to shitpost like this?

                Don't tell me you think he's a tendie? You know they don't even exist right?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Now you are just coping and doing damage control

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Damn tendies are like the typical frustrated guy always shitting on a girl but deep inside he just wants to frick her

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is that he doesn't know a thing about Nintendo.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ff17 cost twice as much as nuGoW

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Damn tendies are like the typical frustrated guy always shitting on a girl but deep inside he just wants to frick her

                >ff17 cost twice as much as nuGoW

                I hate to break it to you but the guy literally just posts bait nonstop.
                https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/boards/qb.v.vg.vm.vmg.vp.vrpg.vst/filename/1492143996855.png/
                He also doesn't show up without Eric.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tendies don't even exist
                really Black person

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dumb esl poster

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit imagine sucking a brand's dick this hard. Shut the frick up tendie.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You don't like video games, you like the Nintendo brand.
        >Oh, my, N64 has lost the support of most third parties! Doesn't matter, 'curiously' I don't like these companies anymore!
        >Oh, my, Nintendo has sold Rare! Doesn't matter, I don't like Rare anymore!
        >Oh, my, Square isn't supporting Nintendo! Doesn't matter, they don't make good games anymore!
        This just isn't healthy. No wonder Nintendo fans became so sad, frustrated and angry during the N64 times. It's not as if they are the only ones acting like morons, sonyers also started pretending first party games are their favorites after losing countless exclusivities during PS3 times. But still, expending a whole generation with the N64 hurt Nintendo fans to such levels that they still haven't recovered.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >FFX was only 'massively popular' because it was the PS2
        People underestimate how true this is. PS2 was truly the first console bought in masses by girls. Every other girl in my highschool had a PS2. Almost all of them had exactly 2 games: Singstar and FFX.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >o-only girls bought it
          A lot of boys bought it too to play the gta, cod, etc. It was also full of weird but fun games

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reading comprehension.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          girls do not matter and do not make up any meaningful part of video game statistics (outside of phone games)

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This would have been fun to post over 20 years ago when they actually did the thing you are pissed off about. Unfortunately they still had two decades of successes since then.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FFXVI flopped THOUGH

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, for being PS5 only, in ps4 pc xbox it would have reached 8 million
        They still got snoy money

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It outsold xenoshit 3s lifetime sales within a week

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yet had 50 times the budget and was a worse game.

          Good job

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yea I forgot to say it outsold xenoshit 3s lifetime sales by almost double the amount within a week. Get fricked nincel we don't know it's budget. And no xenoshit 3 is easily worse from the dogshit mcs and villains to the dogshit music

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The advertising budget on ff16 was insane. It would have had to sell 12million just to break even. It's a massive flop

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              3 million copies is an unmitigated disaster for a game of this profile/budget

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                source for the game's budget?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The budget is not that big
                They had sony money
                Never in development hell
                Try again, Tendie

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mainline ff game
                >Collosal boss fights and sets
                >Half the game is cutscenes
                >Huge marketing campaign using viral marketing, television ads and the most expensive billboards in the world
                >Getting massively outsold by a remake

                Yeah, I'm thinking it's a bomb

                Yeah, I'm thinking it was a bomb

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not even the team's fault just like it's not Nomura's fault SE send his games to Epic prison

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Snoy paid a lot so not really

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sony bankrolled it just like they did Flopspoken. So there's no flop for Square Enix.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ff16 is literally just ff14 plus sony money

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Ff16 is literally just ff14 plus sony money
              Not a bad take

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            They got a shit ton of money just for timed exclusivity. To say this game flopped is incredibly moronic.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >can't even put up Persona numbers and has to compare to xenoblade
          lmao lol even

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nta but Xenogays were the ones who said ff16 would sell less than xeno3
            Also xenoblade 3 is exclusive too

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Nta but Xenogays were the ones who said ff16 would sell less than xeno3
              When did this even happen? Xeno 3 and FF16 never come up in the same conversation.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except when tendies said 16 would sell less than xenoblade 3

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/638313397/#638324742
                Plenty of posts like this one, plus muh fanarts numbers, etc

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ff16 did well for being PS5 only
                Imagine if it came to ps4pcxbox
                Can't wait for the windows edition

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                In other words, only one guy said it and you think it was a tendie even though it was very obviously bait.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that shit was in every thread kek plis xenogays spamming fanarts

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The first instance was on the 9th of may
                It's quite literally impossible for it to be in every thread.

                You people make Barry look sane.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                extremely kino post (in the archive link)
                XVI is dogshit and it's funny watching you keks cope

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe

                FFtroons can't cope with the facts. Imagine supporting homohomosexualry instead of haremkino

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Xeno fans didn't like the harem
                >suddenly an anon uses it to shitpost about XVI
                Be honest, you're trying to drag Nintendo into this because you don't want anyone to attack XV for being worse.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Harem kino? That's assuming I even liked rex to begin with which I didn't so no turning Nia into a cuckqueen after her story arc didn't sit well with me

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just ignore him. Hell eventually tire himself out as he replies to himself.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                extremely kino post (in the archive link)
                XVI is dogshit and it's funny watching you keks cope

                Frick off snoy

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                pic-rel

                [...]
                Frick off snoy

                seethe

                [...]
                FFtroons can't cope with the facts. Imagine supporting homohomosexualry instead of haremkino

                pic-rel

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                How true this is. FF7 remake removed mocking gays and instead they made a full fricking dance with a gay who almost kissed Cloud, so powerful and brave
                Xenoblade atleast give us straight ships and kids

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >turns a simple cross-dressing scene to sneak into Corneo's mansion in the original into an entire song and dance production with music lyrics chocked full of LGBTQXYZ#$ innuendos
                I hate that chapter in remake so goddamn much.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's funny lol. You need to relax

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It would be funnier if they were actually making fun of homosexuals and trannies but too many staff at Square are now onboard with that shit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You need to relax bud, it's just videogames not your moral crusade

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I-i-t's just videogames bud
                Sure it is.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                TAKE POLITICS AWAY FROM VIDEOGAMES

                BUT NOT IF THEY SUPPORT MY AGENDA ITS FINE IN THAT CASE

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it's just videogames

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is that a fricking MARIO hat in that image? Honestly it's an even worse crime than the shootings and I'm tired of pretending it's not. Literally millions in lost profit for Nintendo due to that photo and they should move immediately to garnish wages from the parents.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re right, it’s only noon but Im getting sleepy maybe I should go back to bed

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/07/nintendo-formally-acknowledges-same-sex-marriage-despite-japanese-law

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >”maybe I can inject this huge amount of money into better locomotion mechanics”
                >”neverfrickingmind better pay these motion capture and music composer worthless sack of shits for the obligatory dance sequence”

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Real chads support Xenoblade
                Trannies support Final Fantasy

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Real chads support Xenoblade
                It seems not many people did

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Real chads support Xenoblade
                Trannies support Final Fantasy

                lol at Xenoxirs

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          From what even diehards have said about Xeno 3, the devs just didn't care too much about that game when they were developing it sadly.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It sold 3million+ already moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Squaresoft nearly died and only exists today because Enix bailed them out.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    should I buy FFX/X2? I'm playing 12 right now and really enjoying it but I also have FF6 to play

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, FFX is great and ff10-2 is cringe but fun
      FF13-2 is also underrated

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seconding the other poster. Definitely play X, X-2, 13-2

        Thanks frens I'll get them

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seconding the other poster. Definitely play X, X-2, 13-2

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FFX is great but why not try VI first instead of just adding to your backlog

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >SMRPG selling like hotcakes
    What? They have only betrayed Xbox and don't really suffer for it. At all.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This
      If anything it's hilarious nintendies are gonna give money to square enix for a cheap remake lmao

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based tendies giving SE money
        Hope they make some ff16 dlc

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't feel like the game NEEDs any. Many people say that an easy shoe in is playing as Leviathan and the destruction of Dzemekys, but honestly I wanna play as Barnabas when he conquers Ash or something.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This
          If anything it's hilarious nintendies are gonna give money to square enix for a cheap remake lmao

          Wait its square enix's? HAHAHAHAHAHA

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly, this ff16 vs mario rpg remake is as moronic as sf6 vs re vs dmc, the money goes the same place

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm glad I am not the only one that saw that shit and was immediately perplexed. I guess nu tendies are woefully misinformed

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >barry
                >tendie

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has a zelda guidebook and botw banner
                Yes

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>has a zelda guidebook and botw banner
                Barry has neither of these things anon and he shits on Zelda all the time.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Jaygames isn't Barry's account.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Totally

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The game can be awful but this is peak autism alas Chris Chan

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >@psxbnin
                >tendie

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like he has asperger

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, that's just how sonygays are.
                Remember when that shat on MHW threads?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah i remember tendies seething at MHW success

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You mean sonygays trying prevent any form of discussion that wasn't 100% praise.
                We never had any tendies in MH threads, they were simply a means to justify shitposting.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whats wrong with tendies

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Twitter schizophrenics

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Barry
                >shitskin
                Huh?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Checks out

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Totally

                Now you are just coping and doing damage control

                Zeldagays still cant forgive ff7 success I see

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Zelda is more successful than FFVII.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I was confused as frick as well

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >betrays shitendo
    >by making shitsano games, dq spin offs, and mario rpg exclusive
    ???

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, and making dq nintendo exclusive is actually bad. DQ pixel remaster could sell really good but they have some deal with nintendo
      Also even ff16 sold more than xenoblade 3 in a dead console

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the chart autist at?

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    they betrayed themselves

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't blame Tendies for portbegging Clive's game

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically has OP ever had sex? I sincerely doubt it

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The op has been saying capcom and square will die for years

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          because he's a tendie and he thinks they betrayed nintendo
          the fact is nintendo makes shitty consoles and has always had extremely anti 3rd party policies because they dont want 3rd parties competing with their own games

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >because he's a tendie and he thinks they betrayed nintendo
            Which would mean he isn't a tendie.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Betrays Nintendo
    Are you sure it wasn't Nintendo that betrayed them first?

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    surely with 7r and xvi sales they made the money back from avengers and forspoken
    kh4 is coming soon as well to help

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They only went bankrupt because of that dumb fricking movie they dumped all their money into.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Betrays Nintendo
    Imagine being this much of a braindead Nintendogay that you think a company making a game for a different console almost 30 years ago is betrayal.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was a betrayal, Square would have been nothing without Nintendo.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yet they became bigger thanks to playstation

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Companies are not friends, same reason Capcom left sega saturn behind and ported Resident Evil to ps1, same with Konami

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know if SE has anything to do with the remake? Or just trademark

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, and Square Enix gets the money

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based, hopefully it will fund FF12-2

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I was confused when they wrote 12-2. I thought maybe he meant to put 12-3.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I loved this game

            Yes, and Square Enix gets the money

            Even better, I want a Barnabas Episode. I want to play FF16 in Comfy Steam Deck

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              How bad are Clive's mommy issues? Do you think he makes Jill roleplay while she gives him nursing handjobs?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            this was a great game and also sort of fixed the (few) issued I had with the first one, mainly the story

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Like Front Mission remakes some third grade company make them and se gets even richer

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are making it. They get money for it. Nintendo always had shit excuses for it not being on NSO always saying it was not up to them, but Square Enix.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    there was something in between those

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being the guy still crying about FF7 being made for the PS1 in anno domini 2023.
    70% of the people in this thread weren't even born yet.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can you blame the guy? Nintendo broke him this gen.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo is ironically going to give them a safety net with Mario RPG

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tendies don‘t even exist, they‘re a social construct
    Peak Ganker

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    After they and Nintendo went their separate ways, Square was still on top throughout the 90s and into the beginning of the 2000s. Their merger with Enix and departure of key personnel was the beginning of their demise.

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Betrays
    Die in a fire.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    He ruined FF discourse on this board. In a way, he won.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah its a dedicated zeldagay using ff15 to shut down any ff thread
      He used to be pretty active on ff7r too and you can bet you will see him in ff9r threads

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      kino post, I feel the same. When Yoshi P gets fired it's going to be extremely funny

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      At this point I'm just convinced that Barry is just a means of creating an all purpose defence for criticism..

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    More like betrays Microsoft

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    They had to beg Nintendo to be able to develop for the Gameboy Advance after that disaster movie they made. HAHAHAHA! It is funny how This old man just keeps winning even years later.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people want a game they will never play to flop
    I am an 08' newbie but I still don't understand this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      All the olgays offed themselves. You are now the olgay

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty simple anon. XVI is made by the MMO team who has been pozzing SE and FF games in general since XII. Anyone who doesn't want the MMO shit in singleplayer games wants XVI to fail

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh team
        There is the dmc guy too. Its like pretending neo twewy fans have to be KH games fans too

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but no one cares about the DMC guy who is a new hire. It's a political situation at the company. See Versus XIII and why it was never mentioned for so long.

          You sound mentally ill kek

          You sound moronic.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You sound mentally ill kek

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Long story short
      >Sony reveals PS3
      >no games, $599 you ess dollars etc ensues
      >butt of the joke for years
      >2013 turn around because Nintendo and xbox fricked up
      >sonygays surge back for revenged but no one gives a shit
      >play their own enemies to shitpost about them

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are tendies so mad? They just had a great game come out.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's because it's over shadowing XV.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick Square

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >25 years later
    Wow.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >betrays my favorite corporation
    >I hate them uwu
    Genuine question, what's wrong with Nintendo fans? Did takashi or whatever his name is personally buck broke them to be give them this insane slave mentality?

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care about lgbt I just like to look at cute boys

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are they the stupidest company in Japan?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sony

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Betrays Nintendo
    They've been one of the biggest Nintendo supporters. Just not with their blockbuster cinematic experiences.
    There's almost always a new Square Enix game revealed in a Direct

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They've been one of the biggest Nintendo supporters
      Here's a tip, if someone says third parties abandoned Nintendo in gen 5 and 6 they aren't tendies. They're shitposters who never considered that handheld are also platforms.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >all those tendies
    Damn they really became cancerous

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What tendies?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      Their obsession with square enix is hilarious kek

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh my god, you made that post because there were no Nintendo posts in that thread didn't.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the frick went wrong.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lack of good vision and just copying everything they thought would be cool.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      nothing

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you mfs still angry 26 years later
    Nintendo suits are paying SE for exclusive games but you're still angry about FF7 lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is because it was fricking FF7.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      When are they ever not angry?
      Nintendo has been a chip on their shoulder for years.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF7 outsold their precious Ocarina of Time and they have never recovered.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also Deus Ex won the favorite Ganker game and nintendomods rejected the poll because it won against ocarina kek

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Uh, Mario 64 was the best selling game of that gen. You're only proving that only sonygays make these threads.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's probably because the mainline games are still not on switch
      But this is more about the console being a toaster than anything else.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah
        "they could make new games run on switch if they wanted"
        Just like bayo 3 running and looking like garbage.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF7 was an industry shaping game
      You can find reports of every game studio of this planet talking about how they got inspired by FF7. In many ways, storytelling, rpg mechanics, music
      Even games like Baldur's gate got inspired by it
      Definitely the start of seeing vidya as something more than kids' medium. Many musicians started their career because they saw FF7

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep. SE started this some years before but FF7 was their jump. It's like how Rockstar is ahead of everyone else in open worlds.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Definitely the start of seeing vidya as something more than kids' medium
        Which is a real shame dive that's when video games started becoming more juvenile.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          As much as I like ff7 as a game it's story is fricking abysmal. I mean comparing 6 and 7 is day and night in regards to quality storytelling and depth.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Disagree
            FF7 was one of the first stories with an actually mentally ill protagonist and not the stereotype of chosen one, a total unreliable narrator. Before games like SH2 made the trope popular

            It's a story about death, grief that reaches all the party members in some way and accepting yourself.
            It's easy to see its narrative and point out as generic or usual 26 years later when you have most of the industry using elements of it.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's the same with FFX. That game did a isekai narrative before it was mainstream in games or anime. It's like if people saw The Joken in a batman movie and called him a generic clown villain. When he's the OG.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              People have no idea how Cloud's plotwist was insane.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's crazy how Homelander himself is a concept that was born with Sephiroth
              A super soldier created by a megacorp in the way he's not only a soldier but also a symbol of propaganda.
              Even the way he has mommy issues.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >FF7 was one of the first stories with an actually mentally ill protagonist
              No, cloud wasn't anywhere near the first. Not even in video games alone.

              >It's a story about death, grief that reaches all the party members in some way and accepting yourself.
              Anon, so was ff6, in fact 7 was MEANT to be a 3d remake of ff6 hence the glaring similarities between them.
              >It's easy to see its narrative and point out as generic or usual 26 years later when you have most of the industry using elements of it.
              The only part of it that wasn't really generic was Aerith dying with the death of a protagonist being uncommon in video games but also something FF did before with characters like Galuf.
              In media in general girls have been dying like that since Gwen Stacey.

              It kind of amazing how shut off from the rest of the world you are.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, cloud wasn't anywhere near the first. Not even in video games alone.
                Can you give some examples?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                terra

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Terra isnt mentally ill
                Cloud is an actual schizo with a dissociative personality that enters in comatose when presented with the truth. Terra was just controlled.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >headcanon
                lol

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nice defense. But i'm sure even the most 6 gays will explain how Terra and Cloud are different.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are we going with any mental illness or specifically dissociative identity disorder?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, so was ff6, in fact 7 was MEANT to be a 3d remake of ff6 hence the glaring similarities between them.
                I cant believe you really think this is true
                The 3d version of 6 was a way to test their engine for 7. A side project, 7 was never meant to be a 3d remake of 6 lol
                Such old theory.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >in fact 7 was MEANT to be a 3d remake of ff6 hence the glaring similarities between them.
                Bro that's not true. It's funny you call him shut off but believe on that.
                It was just an engine test. Just like 7 also had prototypes in 2d

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's crazy how Homelander himself is a concept that was born with Sephiroth
              A super soldier created by a megacorp in the way he's not only a soldier but also a symbol of propaganda.
              Even the way he has mommy issues.

              Schizophrenic villains seem interesting.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't even understand the twist. So he wasn't in soldier? Everything else was real though

                Sephiroth isnt even schizophrenic, he's just problematic in many ways and manipulative. He isnt insane. The actual schizo in the cast is the protagonist.
                The most interesting aspect of FF7 is how some party members do realize how Cloud's perspective doesnt make sense. But he's so unstable and tells it with so many details that Tifa gets afraid of doubting him and starts questioning herself if her memories are true.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah
                "He was not there, but how can he know this with so many details that only a person who was there could know?"

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Sephiroth isnt even schizophrenic, he's just problematic in many ways and manipulative. He isnt insane. The actual schizo in the cast is the protagonist.
                The most interesting aspect of FF7 is how some party members do realize how Cloud's perspective doesnt make sense. But he's so unstable and tells it with so many details that Tifa gets afraid of doubting him and starts questioning herself if her memories are true.

                Can you explain this to me, I'm actually replaying it and just parachuted into Midgar but I still don't really get the story, and these details cloud supposedly shouldn't know. Sorry I'm kinda moronic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did you see the flashback with Zack?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but....he was still there, he still fricked sephie up, he wasn't a sephie clone or anything. The only detail that was wrong was that he wasn't in soldier, so what's the big deal that he had to schizo himself to cope with

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is how Cloud already had severe low self esteem issues, he always saw himself like trash even when he becomes a competent grunt

                So failing to become a soldier, the embarassment to appear before Tifa again as a failure, the destruction of his village and mother's murder by the hands of Sephiroth, and being experimented by Hojo for 5 years with absurd mako levels destroys his psyche
                So when Zack dies saving him, Jenova crafts a new psyche for Cloud based on Zack's. So this is why Cloud copies the way Zack acts and behaves, but not perfectly, knowing how Cloud isnt Zack.

                Part of Tifa's doubts comes from both ways, sure Cloud knew things because he was one of those grunts, but Cloud remembers the memories as if he was Zack with all the confidence in the world. When you see someone tellling a story with so many details, you get doubts.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cloud is one reveal away from being one of those black robbed guys. The only difference is how his mind protects itself from it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                FF7's story is poorly written[/the game itself doesn't explain a lot of these things properly.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just a reminder to all of you that the only remaining fans of the traditional jrpg series/plot structure are betas that can't let go and actually take the themes that many of their games try inspiring them to do. We all moved on to Dark Souls and From Soft, which are 100x better than fricking "Xenoblade" "Tales of Arise" and... KEK... "Final Fantasy". Even Persona stands no chance against The Old Hunters DLC.
    >better world building
    >better npcs
    >better lore
    >better gameplay
    >better dialogue
    >respects the player's intelligence
    >better themes and real-world inspirations
    >more to discover on further replays
    >picrel to troll the gays
    yep, it's kino and destroys your traditional JRPG.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im a fan of both elden ring and dragon quest and you are wrong

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Another Barry thread

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone moving to disc formats
    >N64 stays cart based
    Yamauchi was a fricking idiot. Imagine losing Final Fantasy and Megaman at the same time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's funny how that spammed an entire generation that started hating jrpgs and loved scrimblo bimblos because of his spite towards FF
      And now that things returned to the way they were they get angry.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's funny how that spammed an entire generation that started hating jrpgs and loved scrimblo bimblos because of his spite towards FF
        Spammed? Do you mean spawned?
        Also the most lucrative JRPG franchise at the time was a Nintendo exclusive.

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Betrays Sony
    >Becomes permanently irrelevant in the console space

    Lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They got kicked of the console business, switch is just another Nintendo portable with an HDMI out without any exclusives, yes I beat astral chain, xeno chronicles 2, bayo 3 and fire emblem three houses on yuzu with zero problems

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Square should have killed Nintendo in the 90s when they had the chance.

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't even understand the twist. So he wasn't in soldier? Everything else was real though

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