>Better graphics
>Better gameplay
>Has more characters to play in a single round
>Better sound effects
Tell me why King of Fighters SOMEHOW fell behind Street Fighter despite having all these.
Yes Street Fighter was older but so was Atari, I don't see people preferring Atari over Playstation.
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>Better gameplay
Incorrect.
>Has more characters to play in a single round
This is a negative.
Team gimmickry < Mastery of single characters and their match-ups.
SF had the major advantage of not only name recognition, being the game that popularized fighting games and beating Fatal Fury to the market, but more importantly SF was widely available on home console with a litany of titles over saturating the market, everyone had a Street Fighter game if not a game featuring Street Fighter characters
SNK games in general were somewhat of a rarity for ports in the US, so many less people had a chance to play them. I'm someone who always wanted to play SNK games but just rarely had the chance, got into them more with emulating, but growing up I didn't see them.....first SNK games I ever got to play were KoF '99 and Capcom vs SNK
Agreed. I barely ever encountered it, although when I did play an old KoF title it blew me away and liked it way more than SF. Some friend of a friend had it. I was super jealous and couldn't find a copy of it anywhere. My parents were super against using their CC for mail order stuff from what they thought were sketchy scammers kek. Terry was the first fighting game character that ever clicked for me.
I'm a white dude from the whitest of the New England states and KoF is way more popular among the nerds that do local tournaments. SF is babies first fighter, it's fricking boring
Why are you going to Hispanic tourneys?
yeah, home ports is a big part of it. NEO GEO lol. also the characters in capcom games are more defined and unique from each other. its a big cartoon martial-arts game and is easy to look at.
>better graphics
Is this Black serious? World Warrior came out in 91, why are you even comparing graphics?
He’s a chicano zoomer, quite literally the dumbest demographic on the planet.
>le snk mexican guy is back
tekken fans are mostly black, is this a topic of discussion?
Ok, Edgar Guadelupe Jose-Mateo Ruiz-Hernandez Jr.
ok jamal, tell grandpa jasper i said "wuddup turkey skillet"
Calm down Jean Pierre
Came out when burgers wanted to focus on digitized graphics and 3D fighters.
We are blessed to have SNK be more underground than others.
Our community actually plays the games, unlike half of the street fighter "community", as you can see from their welcoming party.
I enjoy both
While I do like some designs, many characters in KoF have some strange level of sameness in their visual designs, at least in the 2D games. Meanwhile Street Fighter characters all look rather distinct even with all those shotaclones running around.
Street Fighter designs are mismatches
>many characters in KoF have some strange level of sameness in their visual designs, at least in the 2D games. Meanwhile Street Fighter characters all look rather distinct even with all those shotaclones running around.
It's not untrue, but it's also a pros and cons situation.
SF characters have more variety, but it's because SF is big on cartoony, exaggerated proportions and freak designs and they don't really care if a character is butt ugly as long as the design is unique. Most SNK characters are designed to be attractive, cool looking people with more realistic proportions in comparison. So yeah, at a first glance SF characters can seem more varied, but they're also often ugly. SNK characters on a first glance can seem visually similar, but it's because they tend to stay on a certain standard of attraciveness/coolness
This objectively true post is gonna trigger the fanboy homosexual, so let's watch him lose it now and sperg about Mexicans some more. MK was brought up, so maybe we'll get a double whammy of autism and he'll sperg about Juggalos too
KOF tends to have humans. SF tends to have charactures of humans and non humans. The only games that SNK made that I can think of that had non human characters were Samurai Showdown series and Fatal Fury: MOTW.
>The only games that SNK made that I can think of that had non human characters
You forgot the one that had Zero??
>Samurai Showdown
Does this count for the purpose of discussion? I thought we were comparing SF to games like Kof, Shodown is like a completely different beast imo.
He's more human than you
huh, that came outta nowhere?? you implying I'm autist? my feeling are hurt...
>Has more characters
I like playing as Zero. That's some mugen shit, lmao.
I wouldn't mind if it was popular and the version had Zero.
Yeah, the characters don't stick to me as distinctive that being said. They all mostly look the same with the cope being that it's "realistic".
For me, there are two kinds of characters. SnK designs who I can't tell apart and Zero. Yeah, SnK designs are cool and all but Zero mogs them that's why I play ZERO.
graphics
gameplay
Subjective.
>Tell me why King of Fighters SOMEHOW fell behind Street Fighter despite having all these.
SF was good with SF2 already and only got better with each game. KoF only got as good as SF with KoF'98. That's 7 years later than SF2 and at the time when most people migrated to 3D fighters. KoF'96 and 97 are fine games but not on Alpha 2 level. Before those SNK games were second tier mediocre. Samurai Shodown II was the only one truly great but as a weapons fighter with specific gameplay it didn't compete with SF.
If you consider World Warrior good than even KoF 94 was great.
I would even say that 95 was better than Alpha 1 and ST but that's just me.
The fact you all discuss the people rather than the games themselves demonstrates how little you all really know.
>the people
the ones in your head?
snk didnt have good marketing in america. their 2d stuff is more popular than capcom worldwide.
>worldwide
Not in Europe, not in Japan, I don't know the rest of Asia. Latin America is not "worldwide"
Chinks and Arabs love SNK too.
Only thirs worlders care for KoF, is the only reason it stays "relevant"
And asians.
>Complaining about third worlders willing being an ESL
*while
I guess i'm not one to talk.
>made a typo
>opnion discarded lol
KoF subhumans at their finnest
Only subhumans care about where someone is from.
Zoomers lived their entire lives having auto-correct on. They don't know what a typo is. They see it and automatically think it's an ESL or they lose their shit and start jumping up and down.
>T. under the age of 30
You're a zoomer.
I literally made a typo in the post he was replying to.
Unironically take your meds.
kof is like soccer, everyone but USA like it
Except nobody in Europe (you know, the place that is craziest about soccer) cares about KOF. KOF is more like Cricket, but replacing India with LatAm
>Except nobody in Europe cares about KOF
this is bullshit, though it is true that kof fans are a niche, while sometimes sf get mentioned by normies too.
>though it is true that kof fans are a niche
like cricket fans
not that niche, cricket fans are non-existant save england.
casey would make a great character in capcom or snk
Nope, there's Australia, Qatar, South Africa, Bahrain, India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh too.
None of those countries are in Europe you dumb wog
India alone makes more cricket fans than the usa has people. It’s just statistics, this anons probably a burgerboi who ate too many Mike n Ike’s and popcorn from blockbuster in his double wide trailer, where his “mema” watched Joel osteen every Sunday while making squash casserole with peas on top. Many such cases.
those people are long dead man i'm ashamed i even recognize this insult
You mean
>the “diabeatus”
>diabeetus
Is that your dad who died of
>diabeatus
You must be really fricking ugly, js
I see reading comprehension is not your strongest skill.
you need to cater to the turdiest common denominator to win the popularity contest
The designs and music
Both cope games you play because mortal kombat is in your big brother's room and he's in there smoking weed and having sex with his girlfriend.
Lack of medium attacks makes KOF gameplay shallow.
That's moronic.
Terrordrome scares the ass out of both.
You wanna know the REAL reason?
Street Fighter, the franchise itself, crossed with Marvel comics, that single handedly put SF on the pedestal of popularity.
It's also why they tried to shoehorn Mega Man X garbage on the forefront and gone with off model shit in the Ruby Queers cartoon.
Street fighter was apart of the cultural mainstream far before SFvX. You’re a fricking moron
>Street Fighter, the franchise itself, crossed with Marvel comics, that single handedly put SF on the pedestal of popularity.
Nah, SF2 when it first came out was properly a huge deal of a game, and Marvel wasn't what it is now in the 90s, it wasn't even really what it was in the very late 90s/early 00s with the X-Men and Sam Raimi Spider-Man films. Marvel was popular and the SF crossovers were beneficial to both camps, but SFs popularity was its own before then.
And for the record, nobody in America would have liked a chibi Mega Man with the original artstyle. Cope.
KoF definitely had a sort of mystique, you felt like you were really into the big boy club if you knew about it, while SF was normie.
nobody really gave a frick about mega man period in the 90s, it was a late 80s thing that got creamed by competition in the 90s (just like double dragon, which also had a cartoon/toy brand attempt to regrow interest) but just kept coming out anyway
>MCU babble
That's not true. Superheroes were everywhere, they had dozens of cartoons, games, even if you didn't read comics you KNEW they were the big guys like superman/batman or spiderman. Although the former are DC, his debut as "The Friendly Neighborhood" the relatable superhero made DC shiver. It's simply fricking crazy to say no one was aware of superheroes until MCU.
>It's simply fricking crazy to say no one was aware of superheroes until MCU.
I literally didn't say that. I said it wasn't what it is now, which it wasn't. In the early 90s SF was definitely a bigger name than Marvel as far as games were concerned, the crossovers probably earned it some new fans in terms of Marvel fans who didn't previously like fighting games, but not enough to claim Marvel made SF popular.
If anything, those games probably gave Marvel a bigger push to the Japs than anything else.
>And for the record, nobody in America would have liked a chibi Mega Man with the original artstyle.
The cutscenes on the games literally have him being chibi and "anime".
SNK as a whole suffers a lot from "never being the first one, while also not being different enough to set itself apart in a way that people actually care about" syndrome.
Fatal Fury wasn't the first fighting game and was already outdated by the simple fact that you could only play as 3 characters and combos weren't a thing, Art of Fighting makes the same mistakes even if it stood out more due to the pretty graphics.
An year later, FF2 and AoF2 are released, SNK finally learned that people want to be able to play as every single character in the damn game, but WAIT! Still no combos, another 2 sets of games that the will be considered inferior to SF2, and by the time FFS came around it was already too late, Fatal Fury was forever know as a "SF clone" series.
KoF, being initially a crossever series, couldn't overpower SNK's prior frickups, since nobody in the anglo world cared about SNK's IPs beyond maybe SamSho and Metal Slug (none of which having a team in the classic KoFs).
>Incorrect
I refuse to believe anyone knowledgeable about both series can genuinely take a serious look at the gameplay systems and not conclude KoF is better. It reminds me a bit of Mario and Sonic in that regard. And like Mario and Sonic one just has a massively bigger fanbase who often chime in while lacking good knowledge of both.
There is so much more to the movement systems and variety in character movesets comparatively. It's very telling that unlike Street Fighter, the 'good' KoFs are the ones where they just shed all the gimmicks and let the basic gameplay roll, while Street Fighter has always needed to rely on a game specific gimmick or mechanic heavily to justify a game's existence. The more restrictive design in SF does allow things like 'pure grapplers' to exist which wouldn't be the same in KoF because they just won't design a character lacking core options like Capcom does with Zangeif etc, but that also means in KoF extremely polarising matchups don't exist like they do in SF.
KoF's gameplay is great. That's what's allowed it to live for so long and be Sonic level unkillable. No other franchise has been able to be an acceptable 'KoF clone'. The only series that seriously lifted loads of shit from KoF was Smash Bros and obviously that is super different in itself.
You know when people b***h about strike/throw, 50/50 mixups and coinflip gameplay? You know SF players will big up their fundamentals and pretend unreactable mixups and coin flipping aren't a big thing? Well in KoF, they're actually not. 50/50s barely exist, unreactable mixups largely don't exist, spacing/anti-airs actually matter and it isn't a massive cope by the game's fans downplaying the bullshit that actually works in the game.
KoF's gameplay is extremely good. That's just a fact. I would say KoF's gameplay is *the best* and is completely unique, avoiding most of the pitfalls SF styled fighting games turn into of devolving into single player games past a point.
Is this ChatGPT post?
No, just one I typed in one massive stream of consciousness and didn't proofread
SF has so many memorable special moves. Everyone knows fireball, dp, sonic boom, spd, etc.