The bosses were excellent. I wouldn't be surprised if this mf tried to play it like he did Elden Ring where he just spammed jump attack with an OP heavy weapon
That dude rotted his brain though like 40k hours of wow. Nothing he says should ever be taken seriously. It's like going to a senior home and going to the confused ward
Because he's actually shit at these games if he can't overlevel and tank every boss. You can't really do that in this game and it also has less forgiving i-frames than From games so you have to be almost perfect with your parries and dodges
It actually has a larger more forgiving parry window, but the other things,yeah.
morons play through the entire game not realising the parry system has a giant window and try to parry bosses like it's sekiro
There is no false sense of difficulty. It's actual difficulty. Either learn the timing or be a noob and use a spectre and spam throwables you casual and not actually beat the game.
Elden ring gameplay sucks dick and requires no skill. You hate lies of p because you can't just cheese and do cheap tricks like in elden ring. If you don't have patience to play the correct way refund the game and turn in your gamercard.
you'd be right if the window to parry/dodge the attacks was the exact moment the hit started moving forward, but prediction through memorizing the timing by time and not by visual cues is bad design.great game but they gotta fix that
"learning timing" through trial and error is false/artificial difficulty though. Actual difficulty would be if you could naturally react to the animations.
Asmon didn’t engage with the mechanics of the game. He was so stuck on trying to play the game like Elden Ring then he got ass mad because he kept dying to stupid shit. This game is hard but he made it even harder just ignoring parry.
How can Korea dare to Mog Japan which has made console game for decades, and making this veterancy nothing, despite Korea have no know how to make console game and didn't even poach Japanese or Western devs? 日本がコンシューマーゲームを1番上手く作れるんだ!にわかのチョン供がふざけんじゃない!
that's pretty accurate. Bloodborne is a masterpiece that will be remembered forever for it's own value. Lies of P will be a game that will only get recommended to someone if they like Bloodborne and want something that is similar but worse
>Bloodborne is a masterpiece
Sure. But don't you think it would look nice on something that's not a PS4, like, imagine if it wasn't stuck at powerpoint 24fps with drops
No shit, considering the only things Bloodborne has going for it is atmosphere (and specifically muh Gothic city atmosphere) and Snoy cope
When you add the former and then put it on top of an actually good game, it's obvious
Contrarian trannies will never see beyond the From Software label and actually admit Lies is better than Bloodborne, because it is, obvectively speaking.
I'm convinced that none of these people have actually played the game. Whenever a souls clone releaeses the anti fromsoft clique will say it's better just to try (and fail) to spite people. They've begun to add "objectively" to their posts to make their bullshit sound more sincere than it actually is.
Lies of P will be forgotten within a year like Hogwarts Legacy.
trick weapons were the absolute best part of Bloodborne, and yes the atmosphere was top-notch too. I haven’t played Lies Of P but Bloodborne combat is so god damned satisfying it’s easy to tell you have never played it
Contrarian trannies will never see beyond the From Software label and actually admit Lies is better than Bloodborne, because it is, obvectively speaking.
The good: I thought the story was interesting and the characters too. I liked the maps and the boss design was cool. Plenty of weapons too.
The bad: The combat has issues. For starters, idk what it is but I found myself low on stamina and it's very hard to get it back during bosses. 2 reasons for this, the bosses seem to have no downtime between attacks, they are constantly on the offensive, let's say they just did a long combo, less than a second later they start a new one. Second, my stamina regen is so fricking slow. It's insane how slow it is, I have more then 20 of the stamina stat, using the stamina regen amulet, and it still takes ages for my stamina to regen. It's way too slow to refill.
Also on the bosses, some mechanics are sorta bullshit.the enemy attacks track you in a ridiculous fashion. This is not even close to the most outrageous example of this but it shows how it is. The game lacks hyper armour on almost everything you do which is a giant feel bad when you could stagger the enemy and simply can't pull off an heavy attack due to my negative point 1 and the lack of hyper.
Enemy variety while decent, I think most areas have the same enemies. For example the standard enemy puppet enemy I think it's present in 90% of the chapters. With more hp sure, but a lot of the same enemies are in all levels or some variation of that enemy. Which leads to 2 things, sure chapter enemies are varied but it's varied by including the same shit in all of them for the most part
Your first and second point can be made clearer when you understand there are upgrades to enhance all of those things. You get more stamina regren from perks, you can even deplete less stamina for charged attacks specifically as well as give yourself damage resistance while charging which serves as minimal hyper armor.
Why does combat feel off? Because they're dangling upgrades in your face to make you earn feeling great in combat.
The last real game snoys could hang onto to justify purchasing a PS4 has now been made completely irrelevant by Lies of P on PC. 120fps stable even on toasters, better gameplay and visuals than Bloodborne, better storytelling and arguably better aesthetic. Patience is a virtue and PC now has no need to beg for a 30fps game
>arguably better aesthetic
I didn't play, but anyone that thinks it has better aesthetics is a total tastelet. It looks like a generic knockoff (which is what it seems like).
Shut up. Korea has no knowhow on developing console game. Korea have no idea how to make console games. They didn't even poach Japanese or Western devs. But how can Korea dethrone Japan from best console game maker? Japan makes console game better than Korea for Japan has made console game for decades while Korea is weak at making console game.
Korea can make console games, this game is proof they can, but the Korean game market's problem has always been that their business models for games are too focused on microtransaction extorting.
i don't fully read these threads enough to tell whose a bot an whose not, I just figure with all the Op's about "Korean gaming is gonna overtake the Japanese gaming throne" someone out to point out how shit Korea's business models are on average when it comes to games.
How can Korea dare to Mog Japan which has made console game for decades, and making this veterancy nothing, despite Korea have no know how to make console game and didn't even poach Japanese or Western devs? 日本がコンシューマーゲームを1番上手く作れるんだ!にわかのチョン供がふざけんじゃない!
The last real game snoys could hang onto to justify purchasing a PS4 has now been made completely irrelevant by Lies of P on PC. 120fps stable even on toasters, better gameplay and visuals than Bloodborne, better storytelling and arguably better aesthetic. Patience is a virtue and PC now has no need to beg for a 30fps game
>It looks like a generic knockoff
You are the tastelet for calling a completely different aesthetic a 'generic knockoff' and not even knowing the difference, sad
it's pretty underwhelming in its aesthetic delivery. portions of levels are grey concrete, hallways, industrial areas, and blue zombie crystal goo shit. the itatian baroque french deco shit is rendered only to small portions of the game, and is a bit lacking in visual impact for the player (peaking with entry levels and the hotel).
I imagine Sony will soon go out of business because of this! We finally did it, my pc friends. Now console players will have to sit and mope about all the fun *we’re* having.
Probably one of the more smooth launches too. Runs perfectly, loads quickly, no real bugs. ER had the stutter, the first week of BB has the 45 second load times.
>undermarketed no-name game by no-name dev sits at more than half the concurrent players of FromSofts uber hype game Elden Ring
That's pretty good considering.
>undermarketed no-name game by no-name dev sits at more than half the concurrent players of FromSofts uber hype game Elden Ring
Except that Fromsoft games is more than 2 years old lol. How old are you?
>elen ring is backed by 14 years of souls hype, and bamco marketing
Why did a brand new 2023 From killer has less players than Elden Ring Fromslop from 2 years ago? it make no sense, Kim bro
>1 millions goy pass download
You're clearly don't know how to read huh?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>esl
Why is that every Lies of P hater turns out to be a poor shitholer? >comparing Elden Ring number with Lies of P
You're clearly moronic, I'm sorry.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>comparing Elden Ring number with Lies of P
What number are you talking about?
>ESL reveals himself.
Just wait for the crack or do some Bing searches, muchacho. Either way stop whining because you can't play the game, poorfrick.
Did it sold 20 millions yet?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Call of Duty sold way more than that, why aren't you playing it then? lole
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is call of duty look like From games? Is call of duty a soulsclone too? is call of duty has anime weaponry?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Obviously Elden Ring was and will always be more successful than Lies of P. Your point?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is call of duty look like From games? Is call of duty a soulsclone too? is call of duty has anime weaponry?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Of course not.
Your point?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Can someone translate this post to English? I feel like he might have a point but I can't understand him.
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
MH Rise,PSO2:NGS,FF origin, Soul hackers 2,FE engage,Wild hearts, Wo long,FFXVI and SD gundam Battle alliance and Armored Core 6has shown the fall of the Japanese game. And so does Shin Megami Tensei 5, which was just an utter garbage. Even Worse, Honkai starrail ,Zenless zone zero and Lies of P will mog any Japanese video games.
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
Neowiz didn't even had knowhow to make console and didn't poach Japanese or western devs, and mogged any Japanese console games by only Koreans.
Elden ring was just a Fraud garbage like Cyberpunk because of shit optimization.
Xenoblade 3 is a Metascore manipulated because Japanese dev has inferiority complex on genshin so they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics.
At least we West still makes good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
BG3 and Starfield are genshin destroyers.
Phil Fish was right. Japan has no where to stand in gaming.
Japanese games are dead. The time is for Chinese game, scarlet desert and lies of P.
Any Japanese game since 2021 with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84)?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Can someone translate this post to English? I feel like he might have a point but I can't understand him.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think Lies of P will ever sell 20 million copies, few games can achieve that mark. Specially for a game that was release on gamepass.
What's your point?
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
At least we Westerners still make good games like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
What is left in Japan now?
Anime? China makes it better and Solo leveling will be the AOTS next year.
Comics? Korea makes it better, Webtoon.
Game? China and Korea makes them better.
Porn? Banned by New law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!!
Because Korea and China never gets woke because of 5000 years of history and belief like deep-rooted tree. Go woke, go broke, Jjokbari. 왜놈들은 서양 오랑캐들의 PC코인 달달하게 탄것을 후회할 겁니다. 한국 중국은 피시사상 꿇지 않습니다.
>gets BTFO >Starts spamming the thread with schizo copypasta
Acepto tu concesión
Because Korea and China never gets woke because of 5000 years of history and belief like deep-rooted tree. Go woke, go broke, Jjokbari. 왜놈들은 서양 오랑캐들의 PC코인 달달하게 탄것을 후회할 겁니다. 한국 중국은 피시사상 꿇지 않습니다.
I'm not, you made a point about sales numbers, and it's hard to make that point when one of the games you are comparing was released on gamepass and the other wasn't.
Can you answer my question please? What's your point for comparing Elden Ring's sales numbers to Lies of P? Do you have a point?
>it's hard to make that point when one of the games you are comparing was released on gamepass and the other wasn't
Well, its clearly say 1 million download on goypass in the picture
8 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you comparing Elden Ring numbers with Lies of P numbers? What's your point?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Pathetic asiaticshit bootleger lol
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Can't answer a simple question
I accept you concession.
8 months ago
Anonymous
?
8 months ago
Anonymous
8 months ago
Anonymous
So you didn't like Lies of P and you take comfort in knowing that the game has a 80 review score. Is that what you're trying to convey?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you keep responding to it? You know it's just going to regurgitate some form of "lol asiatic cope".
8 months ago
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See
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's a ChatGPT bot, don't respond to it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
¿Por qué comparas los números de Elden Ring con los números de Lies of P? ¿Cual es tu punto?
आप एल्डन रिंग नंबरों की तुलना पी नंबरों के झूठ से क्यों कर रहे हैं? आपका तात्पर्य क्या है?
Por que você está comparando os números do Elden Ring com os números Lies of P? Onde você quer chegar?
Sekiro sold 10 million copies after many years.
Why are you comparing Sekiro sales numbers with Lies of P numbers? What's the point you are trying to make?
I just finished it that sequel hook made me laugh out loud, god I hope they follow through with it
Excellent game, way better than I expected. It takes some REALLY strong """inspiration""" from Soulsbourne, but for some reason I don't care. They did everything well, so much better than any other soulslike, and it has its own rhythm that is ultimately unique from the From games. 9/10, fantastic. Also astounding that it was day 1 goypass. Nameless Puppet was a c**t, but spamming the electric throwables when he was staggered in the second phase helped a LOT
True but at least most clones make something original. P has way to many homages not to be considered plagiarism. It might be fun but its still stealing
Why can't I get into elden ring I just tried it now for an hour and its ok. But LOP clicked with me instantly when I rose from the chair. I tried DS remastered but refunded because i got filtered by the graphics.
Whats the point of the main offense stats when you can just alter your handles according to your highest offensive stat anyway? Feels kinda unneccessary to bother too much when you basically can use all weapons anyway.
You can influence movement direction when doing attacks and the strong has that backstep thing, but I'm not sure any of those movements actually have iframes, didn't test it though
Not even close.
These games with their janky animations and hitboxes really make you appreciate how tight and elaborate Soulsborne control/animations are.
Game animations and hitboxes are mostly good, probably the best you'll find in a soulslike not made by From
the only thing I can think of that pisses me badly is how they made enemies ice skate during certain attacks in order to make their parry system actually work
Enemies need some form of telegraphing to make parry fair. Its pretty bullshit as it is right now. I dont mind the window being small, i can git gud, but only if there's an actual visual cue to go off of and not having to get hit with an attack so much that i learn the move by time instead.
you should be able to see a move for the first time and be able to parry it. its also not dark souls, dodging has less iframes in LoP than fat rolling in DaS.
there are? sometimes aural clues
sometimes there are, but many times there arent. it gets old seeing them do elden ring style wind ups and then mach punch.
They're awful bud it's just bad animators because Korea. It's not omnipresent but in some fights and attacks, all there is is rote memorization of the timing. The animations lack that subtlety of a Souls game.
anyone else soulslop games would focus more on the levels leading up tot he bosses and not the bosses? i enjoythe challenging sections of missions a lot more than the bosses.
Boss should look over you attempting to get to him from some high-up arena, taunt and laught at you for dying (also remembering your past deaths), but once you get to them they should start sweating and go "oooofrickshitshit, hold on now, let's not do anything hasty here" and turn out to be complete wimps
The problem is they keep designing themselves into a corner when it comes to trash encounters by making the player character too powerful by the end of the game. EVERY single soulslike eventually gives the player far too much healing/recovery to the point where it's extremely difficult to challenge the player via attrition. So by the end of the game trash enemies ultimately need to turn into bullshit mini-bosses with endless hyperarmour who can threaten to kill the player before they can heal, or elaborate gank setups like Anor Londo Archer/Rafters.
The kind of encounters you run into near the start of the game which usually involve pulls of several enemies which stagger in one hit and die in 2-3 hits are lots of fun to play and make the best use of the Soulslike combat system. Weapon movesets matter because you can interrupt enemies by hitting them first and can fight groups by staggering multiple targets with wide sweeps, spacing and timing help you fight more than one enemy at once while trying to focus on not taking any chip damage or running out of stamina. This works at the start of the game because you only have 2-3 Estus, low stamina and no regen, so every stray hit from a hollow is meaningful and you want to avoid taking any damage. The same solid gameplay can't work when you have 10 Estus and lots of stamina and can trade through hits with hyperarmour, because then you don't have to be careful and can just brute force the encounters.
The way to make the levels leading up to the bosses better is to keep the group pulls of staggerable enemies and stop giving the player 10-20 healing items.
Its really not. BB is a game plagued with design issues and low points, thats only been praised because the art style was admitedly fantastic and because being stuck as a PS4 exclusive has made the game develop a cultist following of console warriors
What design issues and low points?
You can't even name one.
Here, I'll go. >Micolash is a terrible, tedious fight that is both unfun and unsatisfying. >Rom also sucks. It's not even hard, it's just insanely time consuming unless you want to risk getting ganked from offscreen spiders. >Ebrietas isn't even a fight for the first 50-75% and is only difficult because of the phase 2 AoE and potential one-shot out of nowhere spell. >The only good bosses are Father G, Blood Starved Beast, Martyr Logarius, Gehrman, and Moon Presence. I personally like Shadows of Yharnam too. The rest of them are too easy and/or gimmicks. I shouldn't be one-shotting bosses blind just by staying behind or under them.
The only, singular bad thing about Bloodborne is that you have to farm healing items instead of just having an Estus mechanic.
What design issues and low points?
You can't even name one.
Here, I'll go. >Micolash is a terrible, tedious fight that is both unfun and unsatisfying. >Rom also sucks. It's not even hard, it's just insanely time consuming unless you want to risk getting ganked from offscreen spiders. >Ebrietas isn't even a fight for the first 50-75% and is only difficult because of the phase 2 AoE and potential one-shot out of nowhere spell. >The only good bosses are Father G, Blood Starved Beast, Martyr Logarius, Gehrman, and Moon Presence. I personally like Shadows of Yharnam too. The rest of them are too easy and/or gimmicks. I shouldn't be one-shotting bosses blind just by staying behind or under them.
based take. If the game released in PC and Xbox I can garantee you people would hate on it as hard as they hate on DS2 and DS3, because BB is exactly on that same level of mediocrity
>No boss weapons >Other stats have their own throwing weapons >Handle mixing is limited to elemental weapons >And it's even more limited if you want to use the fable buffs
Are the elemental boost arts the only redeeming factor for Advance?
You couldn't on release, they added the tree later. I think everybody missed the statue because it's optional and not signposted. They will definitely have statistics about how many people got stuck/quit where and what they found/missed, patch changes will be based on that info.
>puppet asks me if humans and puppets can fall in love >think I'm supposed to tell lies >tell him no because I thought that was the lie since the human fell in love with the puppet earlier >seemingly the wrong choice
frick this game I don't know what lying actually does but I assume it's connected to some kind of ending
You are suppose to do and say the most humane and empathetic choices when it comes to lying system, they poorly explain it to you at the beginning but the whole point of you as a telling lies is you getting closer and closer to becoming human develop actual emotions, What all the lying will do is give you give you a weapon when you lie enough, or become human enough. The really could have did more with the lying system though.
It's really simple anon. If you do the intuitively right thing that a human with a soul would do, that's the option that gives you humanity. If you struggle with that concept, i have bad news for you.
the whole point and thesis of this retelling of Pinocchio is rather than telling you a story about a kid got into trouble who trouble by telling lies so the moral of the story is not to tell lies, they instead turn Pinnochio into a story about defining what makes a person human or not and to what extent. I kinda can't wait to see how they attempt other fairy tales, if they truly are gonna try and make a series out of this trend.
>can't wait to see how they attempt other fairy tales, if they truly are gonna try and make a series out of this trend
Have they said they're going to make other fairy tales into Souls like games?
It's not a lie, puppets can't fall in love. The gist of the game is that the beings with awakened souls are becoming more than just puppets. Technically Ergo Is People and it's the condensed peoplesouls which are enabling the human like behaviour. If you take the Ergo away it's just a machine.
What's cool about this sidequest is WAY later near the very end of the game you can meet a puppet that was a test subject for the Alchemists and you can talk to him in the Abbey, he'll end up near the Opera House later by where that guy's puppet wife is. He mentions that he saw words written by her corpse, and if you go back to her body, it's now fallen down and you can read the writing she left on the wall: "I love you, Juilan." It's neat because when that sidequest is first brought up, it's still questionable just "how" human a puppet can be, but by the end where you can go back to see this, it's evidently clear from other evidence that puppets can become human. Frankly if anything was done well in this game it was the NPC stories and the MC, both were really well done and I loved how the MC becoming more human adjusted his appearance and some other little things (like how listening to records gives you humanity and how the cat eventually warms up to you and lets you hold it, or getting better at the piano and performing on it after the ending.. The NPCs also feel more active and personable and I was excited to talk to them (my favorites were Venigni and the King of Riddles so it was fricking cool to see them end up being very related to each other) and make connections to other characters (Sophia's name pops up in the lore quite a bit more than you would expect and the White Lady miniboss is a lot cooler with their backstory knowledge, for example). For all of the flaws this game has, it was good at getting me invested in the setting and characters, because while Krat's fricked the world isn't ending so you still feel like you're making a real difference even if a lot of the NPCs end up dead, it's about lying to them and letting them die happy and becoming more human because of it
on ng++, 80~ hours sunk into this, am i incredibly bored now i dont even want to go for the third ending anymore. anyone else feel this way? upgraded three nodes of the last phase of p organ and honestly theres nothing left to do or go for, its so linear, not that its a bad thing but am i supposed to make my own arbitrary goals now and shiet? dont get me wrong, its a great game but its lacking..something to keep me interested long term.
Just beat the archbishop. Wasn't insanely difficult, but I never did perfect guard his ass drop even once. Oh well, he takes plenty of damage from slashing weapons and fire. Putting my saber blade on the baton handle gave me a really fast charged heavy attack.
This game is pretty good. This whole subgenre, especially if you include all the obscure "soulslikes" on steam, is more bad than good. So this game is surprising.
Not really a criticism but I think getting boss weapons should be more interesting than giving a guy the boss drop and him somehow handing you that weapon from his collection
>Not really a criticism but I think getting boss weapons should be more interesting than giving a guy the boss drop and him somehow handing you that weapon from his collection
But that's how it's always been in Dark souls and elden ring, Bloodborne is the exception.
I know it's silly but I just prefer the concept of a blacksmith infusing an existing weapon with a boss's essence, or creating the weapon through some other interesting magical process. They could've maybe had eugenie do it through some special process
If you play enough ng cycles can you upgrade literally everything? Every legion arm fully, etc. I'm just curious, because it seems like the highest level upgrades for a lot of gear give you crazy abilities compared to the very tame early game
All I need to know if one is better than the other (Since I can't be bothered to quibble over morons who barely understand why they even like a combat system) is simple. Does Bloodborne still have the 2nd peak Level Design after Dark Souls 1? If so. Then bloodborne will never be topped because good level design is STILL to this day the hardest and most impressive fundemental core thing to pull off in a videogame.
I mean, you're right. There's a huge gulf between P and the level design of even dark souls 1, let alone bloodborne. But nobody is being serious about P being better than bloodborne, it's just shitposting or bait
Define level design, Aesthetics or structure wise? Structure wise this and Bloodborne are pretty close but LoP will fall short at times in that department. Aesthetics wise that's entire up to one's tastes.
>Jump, thrust forward command grab >Multiple sword spam combos and flip moves >2 phase boss fight where she loses her clothes and uses more status attacks afterward >Attacks where she flies into the air and rains shit down on you followed by a dive >Jump, pause, dive sword attacks >Both consider themselves tools of their master
Laxasia is just their version of a non-optional Malenia right
The other two I get, but I thought Puppet King/Romeo was fine. First phase can't do much if you're sniffing his balls and Romeo's only threatening attack is the 50% HP spam, but you can dash through him and he misses most of it
So are they really not going to tell us why Gepetto did it? I was surprised you couldn't confront him about it when you meet him in the cell, but thought ok, it's gonna get resolved later, but it didn't.
If I chose the wrong class at the start, can I later respec to one of the others, or will I always have some points assigned incorrectly now like in Souls games?
I'm debating whether to restart, picked the dexgay option and realised I hated it as soon as I was allowed to buy the str weapon.
In a lot of ways, yes. The only thing it's missing really when you compare it to FromSoft games is the cool hidden areas, LoP is a very linear game with not much exploration.
>think to myself about how this game kinda reminds me of the first NieR for some reason >later on you find out P is meant to be a vessel for Carlo's resurrection but this got fricked up because P gained his own will and ego >and that Gepetto caused the Frenzy in an attempt to get Carlo back
maybe I'm crazy but this seems really similar to what happened with the Shadowlord and the Gestalts in NieR in the sense that a technological step forward involving "vessels" caused the downfall of humanity because said vessels became human on their own
Yeah, but in Nier's case, Humanity had no choice but to make sad vessels to backup themselves with and it all went to shit be cause Devola and Popola fricked their one job and didn't explain to Nier what Shades actually are and that Weiss and Noire need to be merged to solve the whole problem and cure Yonah. Also Replicant sentient didn't amount to shit because replicants behaved 100 percent like their intended vessels so that whole issue replicants losing their identity to merge with shades was a non issue in the first place. Here the so called technological step is done intentionally, and would have worked out with no real problems if not for Gepetto.
yeah I realized it starts to fall apart when you realize the Shade situation was mostly on devola and popola and for lies of P the tragedy was started by a human and not a puppet
I do like the shared themes of awakening humanity and the fact that both games have boss dialog that you can only hear properly on NG+ >first boss just talks about putting on a show and beating the frick out of you >scrapped watchman is furious about the kids that'd play with him that later died to the personification disease and is only attacking you because he thinks you're a threat to them
can't wait to see what King of Puppets' dialog is like
The king of puppets was literally trying to warn you about Geppetto and what he intended to do with you and your heart and that he was the one who fricked up everything but you're not listening to him.
He tries to tell you about it nonverbally too via the cutscene beforehand with the puppet performance of "Gepetto" taking "P"'s heart and putting it into the King. He's literally showing you exactly what Gepetto is planning to do with you and the Nameless Puppet.
Adelina, thanks to petrification disease worsening, lost her ability to sing right at the height of her career most likely, so in order to keep her stardom, she had her sister sing in her place and they played records for her to mimic along with.
What's the secret between Adelina and her sister? Did they exchange places?
No, it's worse than that. You know how you can get a pendant from each of them, and how the pendant is showing the other sister? Look at the pendant that has Adelina's face and think about why that one has its face scratched out.
If you can't figure it out (this does require a bunch of related items to put it all together)Adelina was jealous of her sisters' voice and tricked her into drinking poison, ruining her voice and allowing Adelina to overtake her sister in stardom
Yes, but there wasn't really a "switcheroo" or anything. Adelina was an actress and her sister, Patricia, was a singer, but Patricia was the more popular one and was known all throughout Krat. Adelina only became the popular one after she poisoned her sister and ruined her voice (which is why Patricia became the White Lady, she couldn't sing anymore, and also why you see Adelina's name everywhere but Patricia's name almost never comes up; Patricia's not a star anymore and was just left to be forgotten)
no there was no switch, basically what anon summarized is that Adelina and her sister were both really talented singers but her sister was seen as better, so in order to give her self an edge up on her sister, Adelina poisoned her and ruined her singing voice. Then fast foward to later, Karma bites Adelina in the ass and she gets the petrification disease and her sister who never knew what Adelina had done to her, starts showing Adelina a whole lot of sympathy and pity now that her career is coming to a close thanks to this.
no there was no switch, basically what anon summarized is that Adelina and her sister were both really talented singers but her sister was seen as better, so in order to give her self an edge up on her sister, Adelina poisoned her and ruined her singing voice. Then fast foward to later, Karma bites Adelina in the ass and she gets the petrification disease and her sister who never knew what Adelina had done to her, starts showing Adelina a whole lot of sympathy and pity now that her career is coming to a close thanks to this.
There's a correction I should probably make regarding the pendants; the fricked up one is the one Adelina has depicting Patricia, while the one Patricia has showing Adelina is fine.
So, what the lockets show isn't that Patricia realized it was Adelina that did it. That doesn't make sense since her fight has her thinking that Adelina was killed by puppets, so she did still love her dearly. Adelina fricked up her pendant of Patricia out of jealousy and anger, and then never reached out to her sister after the Frenzy. Patricia assumes she's dead and looks for her, getting killed by P before she can ever find out the truth regarding Adelina.
So just as a clarification, getting the "Free from the Puppet String" ending requires the same steps as the "Rise of P" ending, while only getting as little humanity as possible?
noblesse and proof are probably the best weapons of their respective types, noblesse has a great moveset and probably the strongest fable art in the game, proof wrecks shit hard with the crit damage amulet
golden lie is pretty disappointing honestly, I like how fast it is but it has pretty bad damage and scaling, wish it got buffed to B/B
No, it's a completely different experience. I hate to say it man but if you want to play bloodborne, by that ps4. Not to say this game isn't worth abit of your time regardless or anything, it's just this game isn't bloodborne. Bloodborne is it's own journey, and Lies of P is it's own journey.
Its similar in the sense that its a souls game, and the belle epoque vibe of Lies of P is somewhat reminiscent of the victorian horror of Bloodborne I guess, or at least more so than gothic spires and arches of DS3
I unironically recommend you to wait until bloodborne gets ported on PC, or to play it before Lies of P. The games are different, but if you play Lies of P first you will NOT be able to play Bloodborne again on PS4/PS5 because of the framerate and the age of the game.
It's not a meme. I can't play bloodborne again
You sound moronic, I've played every fromsoftware souls game including elden ring and still enjoy them all the same, and even like demon's souls the most
It's funny that seeing Geppetto for the first time doesn't seem to actually trigger any sort of memory for P like how the necklace/Romeo does.
Geppetto really fricked up with Carlo, it would be ironic if the reason why Carlo's memories never really awoke in P properly was simply because Carlo was somehow defying his father from beyond the grave and not giving his father the satisfaction of succeeding in his crazy plan, as revenge for being a shitty dad that only seemed to care about him in death.
I think what happened is that Gepetto was going to control P the same way he did the Nameless Puppet (the glove thing) but Sophia got to P first since she wanted P to kill her and Gepetto had to work around it. He mentions that he finds P's behavior to be unpredictable, and Sophia didn't give two shits about Krat and just wanted to die, she only started caring about it after P starts caring about the people around him and becoming human.
In fact I think it's very intentional that P never really awakens to Carlos' memories, because the point is that P ends up being a different entity than what Carlos was. You can see it in a lot of NPCs like Antonia who knows that while they look like Carlos, it's ultimately not the same person and she thanks him as just "the boy who resembles Carlos".
Seeing LoP shilling unironically makes me respect PMgays even more. They might be schizo but at least they keep it to themselves never try to compare their game to any Japshit or go "Muh better than Japan product" like any other asiaticgays in this site
I cannot do an objective one yet because I havent done a dex build. That's my next NG+ cycle.
But I find Pandemonium, Puppet String, and Aegis to be the best arms depending on your playstyle. Though an Advance build will use the shock and flame arms very liberally as well.
The black rabbits are only a shit fight if you're blatantly ignoring the massive visual and audio cues it's shoving in your face. >First Fight >Big Bro starts RP walking and rarely attacks when assistance comes in >The rare times he does attack its the same rush attack with a very loud audio cue >Second Fight >Each sibling buffs up and delivers a voice line with subtitles to indicate whos attacking >Other siblings have loud audio cues when they do an assist >Final phase where big bro comes in can be dicey if you ignored the above mechanics, as big bro doesnt follow aggro mechanics anymore. >Beyond that big bro is even easier than the first time because his sword starts broken.
Any souls clone that doesnt take notes from the black rabbits is just destined to have shitty gank boss fights.
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I liked the Bell Gargoyles, Ornstein & Smough, and Demon Prince(s).
Every single multi target boss fight in every single soulslike is absolute trash.
O&S sucks and i'm tired of pretending it doesn't.
8 months ago
Anonymous
> filtered
8 months ago
Anonymous
Filtered would imply i've never beat them, but i did. I have hundreds of hours in each of these games, i have 100% in most of them. It's just that every time i reach any of those bosses i know that i'm in for the absolute opposite of fun.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I actually agree with you that O&S is shit, and is only a good gank fight by pure accident.
Black Rabbits a gank fight designed with thought and thus is a good fight.
i think you misunderstood me. im saying i'm losing frick all HP because investing in Vitality is borderline broken.
im literally trading face to face with bosses like I never could in any FROM game. I could take 3 hits, and still swing, until I reach the threshold of say 40% then roll out of there to heal.
Then youre playing the game wrong. Just equip the heaviest shit you have and level capacity do youre just under 80%.
You dont need to dodge when parrying is 20x better
Wait, is all this shit about LoP being better than BB coming from its availability on PC? If Bloodborne were on PC would Lies of P be forgotten immediately?
>Wait, is all this shit about LoP being better than BB coming from its availability on PC?
It took you until now to figure it out? >If Bloodborne were on PC would Lies of P be forgotten immediately?
Absolutely.
yeah i died like 4 times to the same fatso who kept throwing the corrosion ball at me and pushing me off. it seems to knock you 2 metres out of the way even if you block.
This board is so obsessed with comparing games. For what? It’s cool that there are two games of comparable quality with similar themes to play through. Why isn’t that enough for you people?
I haven’t played lies of P yet, but even if it does turn out to be better than bloodborne, that doesn’t diminish the quality of Bloodborne. It’s still an excellent game.
ive played both, and love both. both have small flaws but who cares.
i don't like the lack of world reset ( without going to hunters dream and back), and i hate the vial system in BB.
in LoP, the voice acting is fricking dogshit. whenever geppetto, gemini, the random korean blacksmith talk I mute my headphones. also the large bosses are dull. its just " get behind and bash them" like DS1.
I wouldn’t say better. I think it does a fantastic Job of iterating on the Souls formula which is really all I ask for. It’s damn good game and it’s sad that allot of people will pass it up because of LE BLOODBORNE REFERENCE. It’s really its own thing and tells a more coherent story.
Neowiz marketeers really need to stop being ridiculous. Just leave it at your derivative slop is good to decent, no need to go into hyperbole and look completely foolish
goddamnit. I wasted like 7 or 8 attempts attempts at killing Puppet of the Future, till I realised you can just drain the poison swamp.
Then I killed him first time back. Before finding the swampdrain pump I was so sure it was a DPS check where you basically have to come in fast and heavy as frick, and kill him ASAP before you are die of poison.
Gesture at the statue that tells you to pray near the church
Broken puppet requires them to give you rewards
multiple NPCs in the hotel react to different gestures
a puzzle requires it
might be more uses I'm forgetting
Dex. If you want a heavy hitter you can still slap a big blade on a Technique handle, but if you want a fast hitting Motivity weapon you're (mostly) out of luck.
Some dude on here mentioned a while ago that one of the boss weapons "breaks out of its shell and becomes a different weapon" when you use it enough, what was he talking about? Did i get memed on?
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
At least we Westerners still make good games like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
What is left in Japan now?
Anime? China makes it better and Solo leveling will be the AOTS next year.
Comics? Korea makes it better, Webtoon.
Game? China and Korea makes them better.
Porn? Banned by New law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!!
Basic is replacing xbox live and has about 20 games, regular is the whole xbox library, ultimate is xbox plus PC plus cloud, so on PC you can play all the xbox titles plus the PC exclusives.
The basic game pass has Lies of P.
Ultimate version just adds cloud gaming and other benefits.
8 months ago
Anonymous
is "pc game pass" the same as "basic game pass"? too many damn names
8 months ago
Anonymous
Presumably PC is the equivalent of regular tier on xbox then, all the PC games but no cloud and whatever else. I don't play on PC though. The key thing is you need to check what gamepass your friend has
I don't get it, what did this game do to send Ganker into a shitstorm of rage and hate? It's not Nintendo, it's not Bethesda, it's not made by Americans, it's not an MMO.
>twink mc riles up straightgays >souls cloned gameplay riles up fromtroons >denuvo riles up piratebros >korean studio riles up weeaboos >difficulty riles up streamer-watching zoomers
take your pick
>some autistic keeps review spamming every thread
Get a fricking grip lad, christ almighty, it might do you some good to take a break from this shit all day.
I was really struggling with the eldest of the black rabbits, but then I realized I could just firebuff my great pipe wrench and then wombo combo him with Charged attack > visceral >3x fable attack >+fire and I killed him without him being able to react or his brothers being able to help at all lol.
its really damn slow which is the tradeoff and makes a lot of bosses kind of hard in that regard. make sure to give it a motivity handle too so it will scale A with motivity and you're all set to unga bunga your enemies. the fable art with it is really good. you can fire it off pretty fast and its great at stunning
Yeah I've popped it on the upgraded police baton handle and it's absolutely fine for mobs so far. Prior I was using the axe and I think it's the same speed ish
Anything at at least 60 fps is better than bloodborne. I tried playing it on friends ps4 an it was like 10 fps I kid you not. How the frick bloodborn so popular if it runs like absolute dogsht? Is 15 fps 720p the norm for sonyboys?
Yeah, Bloodborne isn't bad either. The worst on ps4 was The Last Guardian. Genuinely unplayable. If you want to see some real shit try blight town on ps3
sophia and the korean blacksmith seem so out of place compared to the rest of the game, I get it due to the studio but its like they took korean MMO hoes and put them in a bloodborne game, the style difference is a bit jarring
The Puppet Axe in the Barren Swamp. Slap it on the Police Baton handle and you have a super fast and hard hitting weapon with a fast charge attack and high block rate.
So was bangin your mom
Asmongold told me the bosses were all trash
32.7% of players have beaten Victor but only 26% have beaten king of puppets. How the frick does that work?
then you can be sure they're good since he's a moron
asmongay got hard filtered by wo long which has more forgiving parries than p so I have no doubt he seethed at this game
The bosses were excellent. I wouldn't be surprised if this mf tried to play it like he did Elden Ring where he just spammed jump attack with an OP heavy weapon
That dude rotted his brain though like 40k hours of wow. Nothing he says should ever be taken seriously. It's like going to a senior home and going to the confused ward
Because he's actually shit at these games if he can't overlevel and tank every boss. You can't really do that in this game and it also has less forgiving i-frames than From games so you have to be almost perfect with your parries and dodges
It actually has a larger more forgiving parry window, but the other things,yeah.
morons play through the entire game not realising the parry system has a giant window and try to parry bosses like it's sekiro
the guy who only beat elden ring by spamming jump attacks? no?!?
It's over
his handlers told him to say that
>ungabunga moron gets filtered by Lies of P bosses
>thinks theyre bad because he got filtered
Such surprise
If anything its a good thing that you cant just bruteforce ur way through with heavy armor and some OP weapon, like this moron did in other souls
>le famous streamer
kys
>TFW Krat Hotel after the bad ending postgame
Legit creeped me the fricked out
Who the frick cares what Asmongolid thinks
I only did the true ending just a couple hours ago and am on NG+ now
what happens to the hotel in the bad ending?
P kills everyone and they are replaced by puppets.
How is that a bad ending?
He's not wrong but also wrong. Having ALL bosses delay attacks is a pretty cheap tactic and adds a false sense of difficulty.
literally all the fricking enemies do that
There is no false sense of difficulty. It's actual difficulty. Either learn the timing or be a noob and use a spectre and spam throwables you casual and not actually beat the game.
Look, if they're going to rip off Elden Ring, they should have gone whole hog and made the gameplay the exact same as well.
Elden ring gameplay sucks dick and requires no skill. You hate lies of p because you can't just cheese and do cheap tricks like in elden ring. If you don't have patience to play the correct way refund the game and turn in your gamercard.
Oh the classic inferiority complex victim
Get gud
you'd be right if the window to parry/dodge the attacks was the exact moment the hit started moving forward, but prediction through memorizing the timing by time and not by visual cues is bad design.great game but they gotta fix that
You are fighting puppets. The fights are supposed to be unnatural you are fighting frenzied robots.
ok and? thats no reason to punish a player for reacting to moves properly vs being a glorified rythm game.
Things that feel unnatural in a gameplay sense are still bad game design.
"learning timing" through trial and error is false/artificial difficulty though. Actual difficulty would be if you could naturally react to the animations.
Asmon didn’t engage with the mechanics of the game. He was so stuck on trying to play the game like Elden Ring then he got ass mad because he kept dying to stupid shit. This game is hard but he made it even harder just ignoring parry.
She is so pretty, can I have sex with her?
Wanna know how I can tell you're a homosexualty little beta-male?
You are legitimately homosexual flirting with men on a Cantonese basket weaving forum.
If you don't mind having Geppetto's sloppy seconds, sure
How can Korea dare to Mog Japan which has made console game for decades, and making this veterancy nothing, despite Korea have no know how to make console game and didn't even poach Japanese or Western devs? 日本がコンシューマーゲームを1番上手く作れるんだ!にわかのチョン供がふざけんじゃない!
>webtoon
They even used Unreal engine.
Mentally ill asiatic
Thats the other way around
Thats just sn*ys inflating the score because of exclusivity. Its an 8 user score at best
Nioh 2 is an amazing game homosexual
Care to explain why are Nioh 2 has better score than Lies of P then
Is Nioh 2 a snoy exclusive?
that's pretty accurate. Bloodborne is a masterpiece that will be remembered forever for it's own value. Lies of P will be a game that will only get recommended to someone if they like Bloodborne and want something that is similar but worse
>Bloodborne is a masterpiece
Sure. But don't you think it would look nice on something that's not a PS4, like, imagine if it wasn't stuck at powerpoint 24fps with drops
Console game should be made by Japan and West. Not Korea.
Oooooooooooooof fromsoftware derangement syndrome xisters, our dilation????????
snoy bonus
Are you just making these threads to bait this moron?
No shit, considering the only things Bloodborne has going for it is atmosphere (and specifically muh Gothic city atmosphere) and Snoy cope
When you add the former and then put it on top of an actually good game, it's obvious
But Korea cannot make good console game because they lack knowhow for developing console games and didn't even poach Jap or Western devs.
Japan makes console game better for developing console games for decades.
日本がコンシューマーゲームを1番上手く作れるんだ!にわかのチョン供が黒船の振りすんじゃない!
If Lies of P is a black ship to dethrone Japan from best console game maker, why is Neowiz's stock falling?
holy cope.
>muh gothic art
kys
This. It will take a long time before braindead fanatics accept this but it's true.
I'm convinced that none of these people have actually played the game. Whenever a souls clone releaeses the anti fromsoft clique will say it's better just to try (and fail) to spite people. They've begun to add "objectively" to their posts to make their bullshit sound more sincere than it actually is.
Lies of P will be forgotten within a year like Hogwarts Legacy.
Bloodborne was 8 before dlc you moron.
you have played neither game
trick weapons were the absolute best part of Bloodborne, and yes the atmosphere was top-notch too. I haven’t played Lies Of P but Bloodborne combat is so god damned satisfying it’s easy to tell you have never played it
dats rite, slay queen, slay
>an actually good game
>lies of pee
Black folk like you are only saying this because it's not on peecee go be a crying cuck somewhere else
Korean Cope.
>is-is that a balcony?
>that's literally stealing!
>is-is that a totally knockoffs bootleger?
>that's not literally stealing!
>everything that looks even slightly like anything else is absolutely stealing and copying!
Contrarian trannies will never see beyond the From Software label and actually admit Lies is better than Bloodborne, because it is, obvectively speaking.
you are the contrarian here buddy
>Using fulminus at all
that guy deserved that. though i do wish hope dlc adds better legion arms.
>those hitboxes
Yikers this looks worse than Dark Souls 2 let alone actual masterpieces like Bloodborne.
Where in that webm doesn't the boss hit exactly on the character you blind frick
I beat you can't beat space invaders either
In general I liked it but I have issues with it.
The good: I thought the story was interesting and the characters too. I liked the maps and the boss design was cool. Plenty of weapons too.
The bad: The combat has issues. For starters, idk what it is but I found myself low on stamina and it's very hard to get it back during bosses. 2 reasons for this, the bosses seem to have no downtime between attacks, they are constantly on the offensive, let's say they just did a long combo, less than a second later they start a new one. Second, my stamina regen is so fricking slow. It's insane how slow it is, I have more then 20 of the stamina stat, using the stamina regen amulet, and it still takes ages for my stamina to regen. It's way too slow to refill.
Also on the bosses, some mechanics are sorta bullshit.the enemy attacks track you in a ridiculous fashion. This is not even close to the most outrageous example of this but it shows how it is. The game lacks hyper armour on almost everything you do which is a giant feel bad when you could stagger the enemy and simply can't pull off an heavy attack due to my negative point 1 and the lack of hyper.
Enemy variety while decent, I think most areas have the same enemies. For example the standard enemy puppet enemy I think it's present in 90% of the chapters. With more hp sure, but a lot of the same enemies are in all levels or some variation of that enemy. Which leads to 2 things, sure chapter enemies are varied but it's varied by including the same shit in all of them for the most part
You were probably overweight or panic rolling, I never had a real issue with stamina.
Was not sadly forgot to add that, I was below 60%
Did you get the amulet that speeds up stamina recovery?
Yes that's on my post
Your first and second point can be made clearer when you understand there are upgrades to enhance all of those things. You get more stamina regren from perks, you can even deplete less stamina for charged attacks specifically as well as give yourself damage resistance while charging which serves as minimal hyper armor.
Why does combat feel off? Because they're dangling upgrades in your face to make you earn feeling great in combat.
>that soulless "generic modern game" UI
you are a worthless moron troony
Really don't know how, because it runs better? Combat is not that great but better than surge or lotf
what weapon should i use with this for best dps?
Respec to motivity
It's neat that John Bloodborne is playable
like all souls games its very generic, bland, one-note, and has stamina garbage. theyre all the same bland shit
>oh yeah that happened
some no name korean studio decided to make a dark souls clone based on fricking pinocchio of all things
Shut up. Korea has no knowhow on developing console game. Korea have no idea how to make console games. They didn't even poach Japanese or Western devs. But how can Korea dethrone Japan from best console game maker? Japan makes console game better than Korea for Japan has made console game for decades while Korea is weak at making console game.
日本がコンシューマーゲームを1番上手く作れるんだ!チョン供なんかのノウハウのないニワカ供が黒船の振りしてふざけんじゃない!
コンシューマーゲーム作る経験もないニワカ供が!
Korea can make console games, this game is proof they can, but the Korean game market's problem has always been that their business models for games are too focused on microtransaction extorting.
Why are you reply to a bot, are you samegayging?
i don't fully read these threads enough to tell whose a bot an whose not, I just figure with all the Op's about "Korean gaming is gonna overtake the Japanese gaming throne" someone out to point out how shit Korea's business models are on average when it comes to games.
If Lies of P is black ship to Japanese console games, why did Neowiz's stock tank into abyss?
Mentally ill asiatic
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/4nF2MbatS8bjdhC0svmNaQ/
The last real game snoys could hang onto to justify purchasing a PS4 has now been made completely irrelevant by Lies of P on PC. 120fps stable even on toasters, better gameplay and visuals than Bloodborne, better storytelling and arguably better aesthetic. Patience is a virtue and PC now has no need to beg for a 30fps game
>arguably better aesthetic
I didn't play, but anyone that thinks it has better aesthetics is a total tastelet. It looks like a generic knockoff (which is what it seems like).
>It looks like a generic knockoff
You are the tastelet for calling a completely different aesthetic a 'generic knockoff' and not even knowing the difference, sad
it's pretty underwhelming in its aesthetic delivery. portions of levels are grey concrete, hallways, industrial areas, and blue zombie crystal goo shit. the itatian baroque french deco shit is rendered only to small portions of the game, and is a bit lacking in visual impact for the player (peaking with entry levels and the hotel).
>grey concrete
But enough about Bloodborne
Please find me the image or area that is just grey concrete in bloodborne.
I'll wait.
>better gameplay and visuals than Bloodborne
so nobody ever
I imagine Sony will soon go out of business because of this! We finally did it, my pc friends. Now console players will have to sit and mope about all the fun *we’re* having.
Someone is mindbroken I see
Was Adelina just that NPC? It felt like the game was building up the next Malenia with her.
most games are
this looks so much like AI art... but anyway everything will look like AI art in a few years. it's over
Probably one of the more smooth launches too. Runs perfectly, loads quickly, no real bugs. ER had the stutter, the first week of BB has the 45 second load times.
>undermarketed no-name game by no-name dev sits at more than half the concurrent players of FromSofts uber hype game Elden Ring
That's pretty good considering.
>undermarketed no-name game by no-name dev sits at more than half the concurrent players of FromSofts uber hype game Elden Ring
Except that Fromsoft games is more than 2 years old lol. How old are you?
>How old are you?
how old are you, you moronic child? elen ring is backed by 14 years of souls hype, and bamco marketing.
>elen ring is backed by 14 years of souls hype, and bamco marketing
Why did a brand new 2023 From killer has less players than Elden Ring Fromslop from 2 years ago? it make no sense, Kim bro
oh, ESL. i understand now.
>steam
You forgot game is on pc game pass.
I accept your concession.
>goypass
lol
>moving goalpost
I accept your concession again. Keep it coming.
>1 millions goy pass download
You're clearly don't know how to read huh?
>esl
Why is that every Lies of P hater turns out to be a poor shitholer?
>comparing Elden Ring number with Lies of P
You're clearly moronic, I'm sorry.
>comparing Elden Ring number with Lies of P
What number are you talking about?
>twitter trend
>twitch views
>free goy pass
Its like they doesn't has anything to bragged about so let just pick this random thing lol
>1 million downloads
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>bro, mcdonalds sold like 800 billion burgers more than this small local chain, so of course the local chain sucks
>bro, mcdonalds sold like 800 billion burgers
>sold
You mean "rented"? Gamepass is not "yourgame" bro
>bro, mcdonalds sold like 800 billion burgers
At least it was sold unlike the local chain "burgers download" LMAO
So how much did it sold on game pass?
>steam Black person doesn't even know how Game Pass works
You people really are brain dead.
Did it sold 20 millions yet?
Call of Duty sold way more than that, why aren't you playing it then? lole
Is call of duty look like From games? Is call of duty a soulsclone too? is call of duty has anime weaponry?
Obviously Elden Ring was and will always be more successful than Lies of P. Your point?
Is call of duty look like From games? Is call of duty a soulsclone too? is call of duty has anime weaponry?
Of course not.
Your point?
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
MH Rise,PSO2:NGS,FF origin, Soul hackers 2,FE engage,Wild hearts, Wo long,FFXVI and SD gundam Battle alliance and Armored Core 6has shown the fall of the Japanese game. And so does Shin Megami Tensei 5, which was just an utter garbage. Even Worse, Honkai starrail ,Zenless zone zero and Lies of P will mog any Japanese video games.
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
Neowiz didn't even had knowhow to make console and didn't poach Japanese or western devs, and mogged any Japanese console games by only Koreans.
Elden ring was just a Fraud garbage like Cyberpunk because of shit optimization.
Xenoblade 3 is a Metascore manipulated because Japanese dev has inferiority complex on genshin so they manipulated metacritics like TLOU2 by bribing critics.
At least we West still makes good game like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
BG3 and Starfield are genshin destroyers.
Phil Fish was right. Japan has no where to stand in gaming.
Japanese games are dead. The time is for Chinese game, scarlet desert and lies of P.
Any Japanese game since 2021 with higher metascore than Genshin(81-84)?
Can someone translate this post to English? I feel like he might have a point but I can't understand him.
I don't think Lies of P will ever sell 20 million copies, few games can achieve that mark. Specially for a game that was release on gamepass.
What's your point?
>ESL reveals himself.
Just wait for the crack or do some Bing searches, muchacho. Either way stop whining because you can't play the game, poorfrick.
Why are you comparing Elden Ring sales with Lies of P sales? What's your point? Do you have a point?
Japanese game is dead. Phil Fish was right.
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
At least we Westerners still make good games like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
What is left in Japan now?
Anime? China makes it better and Solo leveling will be the AOTS next year.
Comics? Korea makes it better, Webtoon.
Game? China and Korea makes them better.
Porn? Banned by New law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!!
>gets BTFO
>Starts spamming the thread with schizo copypasta
Acepto tu concesión
Because Korea and China never gets woke because of 5000 years of history and belief like deep-rooted tree. Go woke, go broke, Jjokbari. 왜놈들은 서양 오랑캐들의 PC코인 달달하게 탄것을 후회할 겁니다. 한국 중국은 피시사상 꿇지 않습니다.
Why am i comparing 20 millions sale with 1 million free download on gamepass?
I'm not, you made a point about sales numbers, and it's hard to make that point when one of the games you are comparing was released on gamepass and the other wasn't.
Can you answer my question please? What's your point for comparing Elden Ring's sales numbers to Lies of P? Do you have a point?
>it's hard to make that point when one of the games you are comparing was released on gamepass and the other wasn't
Well, its clearly say 1 million download on goypass in the picture
Why are you comparing Elden Ring numbers with Lies of P numbers? What's your point?
Pathetic asiaticshit bootleger lol
>Can't answer a simple question
I accept you concession.
?
So you didn't like Lies of P and you take comfort in knowing that the game has a 80 review score. Is that what you're trying to convey?
Why do you keep responding to it? You know it's just going to regurgitate some form of "lol asiatic cope".
See
It's a ChatGPT bot, don't respond to it.
¿Por qué comparas los números de Elden Ring con los números de Lies of P? ¿Cual es tu punto?
आप एल्डन रिंग नंबरों की तुलना पी नंबरों के झूठ से क्यों कर रहे हैं? आपका तात्पर्य क्या है?
Por que você está comparando os números do Elden Ring com os números Lies of P? Onde você quer chegar?
To laugh at the pathetic asiaticshit bootleger, what else?
Sekiro sold 10 million copies after many years.
Why are you comparing Sekiro sales numbers with Lies of P numbers? What's the point you are trying to make?
THAT SHARTS OF PEEPEE IS A BAD SHITTY HORRIBLE GAME MADE BY moronic NONHUMANS AND YOU ALL NEED TO STOP LIKING IT BEFORE I START GETTING REALLY MAD!
Because it was funny laughing at inferiority complex asiatics. And how much did Lies of peepee "downloaded" compare to Sekiro 10 million copies ?
So your point is "to make fun" by posting sales numbers of two games? Is that it? Did I miss something?
Yeah to shit on the asiaticshit lmao, stay mad comfort asiatic
>bait OP
>opens with replies about sales, streamers, and metacritic scores
ok so whos going to make the real thread
>>>/vt/
This looks gay as frick. No thanks I’m not jumping around as some poofter.
woah youre so cool and tough anon tell me more
the opposite of the female SJW
I just finished it
that sequel hook made me laugh out loud, god I hope they follow through with it
Excellent game, way better than I expected. It takes some REALLY strong """inspiration""" from Soulsbourne, but for some reason I don't care. They did everything well, so much better than any other soulslike, and it has its own rhythm that is ultimately unique from the From games. 9/10, fantastic. Also astounding that it was day 1 goypass.
Nameless Puppet was a c**t, but spamming the electric throwables when he was staggered in the second phase helped a LOT
Kinda easy to make a game when its just copy/paste. Shouldn't be encouraged
>Kinda easy to make a game when its just copy/paste.
Considering how many people fail at making soulslikes it's apparently not that easy.
True but at least most clones make something original. P has way to many homages not to be considered plagiarism. It might be fun but its still stealing
>Lies of Ganker
It factually isn't, you just can't play bb
It however is a 9/10
Did they really have to make everything two shot you
Put some FRICKING levels into your FRICKING health, and carry capacity for armour
Why can't I get into elden ring I just tried it now for an hour and its ok. But LOP clicked with me instantly when I rose from the chair. I tried DS remastered but refunded because i got filtered by the graphics.
Does it have an OST like this? IF not, it's not better.
OST is great
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Why doesn't P do this with every door?
Why can't P crawl
Pushed L3 instinctively to crouch more than once in this game ngl
This dumb c**t needs to learn to parry
I'll suck the shit out of your dick if you don't take it back.
Dumb. c**t.
Sex with hags
Whats the point of the main offense stats when you can just alter your handles according to your highest offensive stat anyway? Feels kinda unneccessary to bother too much when you basically can use all weapons anyway.
You can only modify them a little, you're still better off specialising for the extreme stat weighted weapons
Daily reminder that if you used pic related you didn't beat the game
The archbishop crit weapon is way more broken
If you didn't use the not-actually-a-katana you didn't even play the game, it's the most fun weapon easily
From could never make a weapon this fun, bone fist is close though
ds2troony has shit taste, news at 11
is it me or it makes you dodge between attacks? I could swear there's enemy attacks that miss whenever I use this
You can influence movement direction when doing attacks and the strong has that backstep thing, but I'm not sure any of those movements actually have iframes, didn't test it though
Not sure about i-frames but you definitely can duck under high attacks
Ongbal uses it so I win the game
what are some fun str combos, currently on baton wrench
bonesaw blade + boosto handle
live puppets blade + pickaxe handle
>boosto handle
>str
Anon.....
You're motivity crank bro?
>C movitity vs A technique
that's a waste of a crank bro.
boost handle scales better with technique not motivity
Not even close.
These games with their janky animations and hitboxes really make you appreciate how tight and elaborate Soulsborne control/animations are.
Game animations and hitboxes are mostly good, probably the best you'll find in a soulslike not made by From
the only thing I can think of that pisses me badly is how they made enemies ice skate during certain attacks in order to make their parry system actually work
>begin new game
>can't beat scrapped watchman
Enemies need some form of telegraphing to make parry fair. Its pretty bullshit as it is right now. I dont mind the window being small, i can git gud, but only if there's an actual visual cue to go off of and not having to get hit with an attack so much that i learn the move by time instead.
Against an unfamiliar move, dodge. Against a familiar move, parry.
you should be able to see a move for the first time and be able to parry it. its also not dark souls, dodging has less iframes in LoP than fat rolling in DaS.
sometimes there are, but many times there arent. it gets old seeing them do elden ring style wind ups and then mach punch.
there are? sometimes aural clues
They're awful bud it's just bad animators because Korea. It's not omnipresent but in some fights and attacks, all there is is rote memorization of the timing. The animations lack that subtlety of a Souls game.
>right now
you casual ruin everything.
play minecraft you turd.
you wish
anyone else soulslop games would focus more on the levels leading up tot he bosses and not the bosses? i enjoythe challenging sections of missions a lot more than the bosses.
Boss should look over you attempting to get to him from some high-up arena, taunt and laught at you for dying (also remembering your past deaths), but once you get to them they should start sweating and go "oooofrickshitshit, hold on now, let's not do anything hasty here" and turn out to be complete wimps
The problem is they keep designing themselves into a corner when it comes to trash encounters by making the player character too powerful by the end of the game. EVERY single soulslike eventually gives the player far too much healing/recovery to the point where it's extremely difficult to challenge the player via attrition. So by the end of the game trash enemies ultimately need to turn into bullshit mini-bosses with endless hyperarmour who can threaten to kill the player before they can heal, or elaborate gank setups like Anor Londo Archer/Rafters.
The kind of encounters you run into near the start of the game which usually involve pulls of several enemies which stagger in one hit and die in 2-3 hits are lots of fun to play and make the best use of the Soulslike combat system. Weapon movesets matter because you can interrupt enemies by hitting them first and can fight groups by staggering multiple targets with wide sweeps, spacing and timing help you fight more than one enemy at once while trying to focus on not taking any chip damage or running out of stamina. This works at the start of the game because you only have 2-3 Estus, low stamina and no regen, so every stray hit from a hollow is meaningful and you want to avoid taking any damage. The same solid gameplay can't work when you have 10 Estus and lots of stamina and can trade through hits with hyperarmour, because then you don't have to be careful and can just brute force the encounters.
The way to make the levels leading up to the bosses better is to keep the group pulls of staggerable enemies and stop giving the player 10-20 healing items.
No it's not.
But it's actually very good.
It's the most competently made "souls-like" that is not from From Software
>about to fight Luxassia
>my heart still isn't pounding
I don't want to feel warmth anymore
Is it over for me?
You gain lots of humanity after that boss
what's up with those tough as frick minibosses?
FRICK ALCHEMISTS AND FRICK GEPETTO
Most importantly, FRICK TORSOS
Thats not a high bar honestly
It is, anon, and being a contrarian about it doesn't make you interesting
Its really not. BB is a game plagued with design issues and low points, thats only been praised because the art style was admitedly fantastic and because being stuck as a PS4 exclusive has made the game develop a cultist following of console warriors
>BB is a game plagued with design issues and low points
nah
No argument. Concession accepted, you can leave now, child
You have not provided us with any argument in the first place anon. Are you moronic?
Fucing moron, what are low points, poor early weapon variety and online mechanics? Fricking Black person.
The entire healing system.
The only, singular bad thing about Bloodborne is that you have to farm healing items instead of just having an Estus mechanic.
What design issues and low points?
You can't even name one.
Here, I'll go.
>Micolash is a terrible, tedious fight that is both unfun and unsatisfying.
>Rom also sucks. It's not even hard, it's just insanely time consuming unless you want to risk getting ganked from offscreen spiders.
>Ebrietas isn't even a fight for the first 50-75% and is only difficult because of the phase 2 AoE and potential one-shot out of nowhere spell.
>The only good bosses are Father G, Blood Starved Beast, Martyr Logarius, Gehrman, and Moon Presence. I personally like Shadows of Yharnam too. The rest of them are too easy and/or gimmicks. I shouldn't be one-shotting bosses blind just by staying behind or under them.
based take. If the game released in PC and Xbox I can garantee you people would hate on it as hard as they hate on DS2 and DS3, because BB is exactly on that same level of mediocrity
>No boss weapons
>Other stats have their own throwing weapons
>Handle mixing is limited to elemental weapons
>And it's even more limited if you want to use the fable buffs
Are the elemental boost arts the only redeeming factor for Advance?
They really needed to give Advance a few boss weapons
Hopefully this gets DLC with them. I want some insane mad scientist weapon.
so swap thing second phase is pretty much the most miserable boss ever in a soulslike right
is this the same schizo that keep spamming korean comic on Ganker? What the hell are you doing here mario?
I could already do that at the Tree. What's this statue for?
You couldn't on release, they added the tree later. I think everybody missed the statue because it's optional and not signposted. They will definitely have statistics about how many people got stuck/quit where and what they found/missed, patch changes will be based on that info.
>lies of shill
For the love of god how the frick do you beat the green monster in the swamp
Who
>puppet asks me if humans and puppets can fall in love
>think I'm supposed to tell lies
>tell him no because I thought that was the lie since the human fell in love with the puppet earlier
>seemingly the wrong choice
frick this game I don't know what lying actually does but I assume it's connected to some kind of ending
You are suppose to do and say the most humane and empathetic choices when it comes to lying system, they poorly explain it to you at the beginning but the whole point of you as a telling lies is you getting closer and closer to becoming human develop actual emotions, What all the lying will do is give you give you a weapon when you lie enough, or become human enough. The really could have did more with the lying system though.
It's really simple anon. If you do the intuitively right thing that a human with a soul would do, that's the option that gives you humanity. If you struggle with that concept, i have bad news for you.
Well I didn't realize that's how it worked I thought you were just supposed to tell lies so I tried to tell a lie.
the whole point and thesis of this retelling of Pinocchio is rather than telling you a story about a kid got into trouble who trouble by telling lies so the moral of the story is not to tell lies, they instead turn Pinnochio into a story about defining what makes a person human or not and to what extent. I kinda can't wait to see how they attempt other fairy tales, if they truly are gonna try and make a series out of this trend.
>can't wait to see how they attempt other fairy tales, if they truly are gonna try and make a series out of this trend
Have they said they're going to make other fairy tales into Souls like games?
They said they're going to do a Wizard of Oz game in this style.
That sounds pretty cool actually but where did they say that?
Post credits scene.
being an african with 9 inch wiener and a white wife I never knew about pinnochio and dnt care. game is fun.
It's not a lie, puppets can't fall in love. The gist of the game is that the beings with awakened souls are becoming more than just puppets. Technically Ergo Is People and it's the condensed peoplesouls which are enabling the human like behaviour. If you take the Ergo away it's just a machine.
What's cool about this sidequest is WAY later near the very end of the game you can meet a puppet that was a test subject for the Alchemists and you can talk to him in the Abbey, he'll end up near the Opera House later by where that guy's puppet wife is. He mentions that he saw words written by her corpse, and if you go back to her body, it's now fallen down and you can read the writing she left on the wall: "I love you, Juilan."
It's neat because when that sidequest is first brought up, it's still questionable just "how" human a puppet can be, but by the end where you can go back to see this, it's evidently clear from other evidence that puppets can become human. Frankly if anything was done well in this game it was the NPC stories and the MC, both were really well done and I loved how the MC becoming more human adjusted his appearance and some other little things (like how listening to records gives you humanity and how the cat eventually warms up to you and lets you hold it, or getting better at the piano and performing on it after the ending.. The NPCs also feel more active and personable and I was excited to talk to them (my favorites were Venigni and the King of Riddles so it was fricking cool to see them end up being very related to each other) and make connections to other characters (Sophia's name pops up in the lore quite a bit more than you would expect and the White Lady miniboss is a lot cooler with their backstory knowledge, for example). For all of the flaws this game has, it was good at getting me invested in the setting and characters, because while Krat's fricked the world isn't ending so you still feel like you're making a real difference even if a lot of the NPCs end up dead, it's about lying to them and letting them die happy and becoming more human because of it
this game was fricking cool
on ng++, 80~ hours sunk into this, am i incredibly bored now i dont even want to go for the third ending anymore. anyone else feel this way? upgraded three nodes of the last phase of p organ and honestly theres nothing left to do or go for, its so linear, not that its a bad thing but am i supposed to make my own arbitrary goals now and shiet? dont get me wrong, its a great game but its lacking..something to keep me interested long term.
>a game becomes boring after 80 fricking hours
Oh no the horror. Just move on.
Just beat the archbishop. Wasn't insanely difficult, but I never did perfect guard his ass drop even once. Oh well, he takes plenty of damage from slashing weapons and fire. Putting my saber blade on the baton handle gave me a really fast charged heavy attack.
This game is pretty good. This whole subgenre, especially if you include all the obscure "soulslikes" on steam, is more bad than good. So this game is surprising.
Not really a criticism but I think getting boss weapons should be more interesting than giving a guy the boss drop and him somehow handing you that weapon from his collection
>Not really a criticism but I think getting boss weapons should be more interesting than giving a guy the boss drop and him somehow handing you that weapon from his collection
But that's how it's always been in Dark souls and elden ring, Bloodborne is the exception.
I know it's silly but I just prefer the concept of a blacksmith infusing an existing weapon with a boss's essence, or creating the weapon through some other interesting magical process. They could've maybe had eugenie do it through some special process
the fact it ends on an avengers initiative stinger makes it automatically worse
If you play enough ng cycles can you upgrade literally everything? Every legion arm fully, etc. I'm just curious, because it seems like the highest level upgrades for a lot of gear give you crazy abilities compared to the very tame early game
Yes but I don't know if the game ever stops scaling. In NG++++ I was getting 2 shot by every boss
sex with puppet boys
Why is there so little porn of it, this is unfair
I suppose he'll eventually get the full Gwyndolin treatment but still...
Because no one care about this asiatic bootleger shit
There isn't much atm, but what there is is high quality. Emberstock especially has made some excellent pics of Pinocchio.
>some excellent pics of Pinocchio.
Donpt care, I want that clussy
gothic Ballora
All I need to know if one is better than the other (Since I can't be bothered to quibble over morons who barely understand why they even like a combat system) is simple. Does Bloodborne still have the 2nd peak Level Design after Dark Souls 1? If so. Then bloodborne will never be topped because good level design is STILL to this day the hardest and most impressive fundemental core thing to pull off in a videogame.
I mean, you're right. There's a huge gulf between P and the level design of even dark souls 1, let alone bloodborne. But nobody is being serious about P being better than bloodborne, it's just shitposting or bait
Define level design, Aesthetics or structure wise? Structure wise this and Bloodborne are pretty close but LoP will fall short at times in that department. Aesthetics wise that's entire up to one's tastes.
any cute skimpy clothes for the femboy?
Sadly, no
Starting clothes show the most skin out of all outfits.
>Jump, thrust forward command grab
>Multiple sword spam combos and flip moves
>2 phase boss fight where she loses her clothes and uses more status attacks afterward
>Attacks where she flies into the air and rains shit down on you followed by a dive
>Jump, pause, dive sword attacks
>Both consider themselves tools of their master
Laxasia is just their version of a non-optional Malenia right
Reminder Nightmare of Mensis and the Lecture theatre are some of the worst levels in any game from both a visual and gameplay standpoint.
Game goes downhill hard as soon as you leave Yharnam and the chalice dungeons are an abysmal piece of filler
Bosses i had to summon a specter for:
>Puppet King
>Green Black person
>Laxasia
Those still need to be nerfed and then the game is fine.
The other two I get, but I thought Puppet King/Romeo was fine. First phase can't do much if you're sniffing his balls and Romeo's only threatening attack is the 50% HP spam, but you can dash through him and he misses most of it
So are they really not going to tell us why Gepetto did it? I was surprised you couldn't confront him about it when you meet him in the cell, but thought ok, it's gonna get resolved later, but it didn't.
He wanted to take all the Ergo thebalchemista were gathering for himself through P tomresurrect Carlo.
Yeah sure, i just feel like that could have been done without triggering the frenzy somehow.
>almost a decade later, pcbeggars are still crying about Bloodborne
Give me all your humanity NOW
You ain't seen nothin' yet, son
>did you hug le heckin cat??
At one point you will get Your heart is pounding instead of You feel warmth, I think that's when you can hug the cat
Stay mad bitterboy
just beat romeo with a shield big pipe + baton for fast hits, shit was easy , im the best gamer to ever do it
It looks okay but I have so much shit on my plate right now
If I chose the wrong class at the start, can I later respec to one of the others, or will I always have some points assigned incorrectly now like in Souls games?
I'm debating whether to restart, picked the dexgay option and realised I hated it as soon as I was allowed to buy the str weapon.
You can respec and the point difference is minimal
Alright, thanks for the info, frick it then I'm restarting. At least I found out at the first boss rather than hours into the game.
You can, but respec is fairly late, you can use cranks to change scaling from str to dex, or restart.
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I don't have an opinion on this game yet because the streamer I watch hasn't talked about it yet
I didn't kill Sophia so I got the shit ending. I thought there would be a way to save her ;_;
this is the new "ds2 was good" contrarian meme and i'm not falling for it
In a lot of ways, yes. The only thing it's missing really when you compare it to FromSoft games is the cool hidden areas, LoP is a very linear game with not much exploration.
>the one boss weapon where i opt for the amulet instead is the one needed to complete a side quest
Of fricking course
Same, it's really stupid.
Which one is that?
Frozen Feast, from Victor.
What does the painting do and why does it say you can't use this when I press it?
It grows ur nose, and u will be able to use it eventually when u keep lying and listening to music
Link attack needs iframes.
Nameless Puppet was kinda disappointing for a final boss. The design is cool but it was kinda easy. Only boss in the game i defeated on my first try.
I just loaded a backup save and did the bad ending, Jesus fricking Christ, Gepetto is fricking insane.
I don't think wanting your son back is that insane.
Sure, but triggering a genocide over it and then going after the last few survivors once you have your son back kinda is.
>think to myself about how this game kinda reminds me of the first NieR for some reason
>later on you find out P is meant to be a vessel for Carlo's resurrection but this got fricked up because P gained his own will and ego
>and that Gepetto caused the Frenzy in an attempt to get Carlo back
maybe I'm crazy but this seems really similar to what happened with the Shadowlord and the Gestalts in NieR in the sense that a technological step forward involving "vessels" caused the downfall of humanity because said vessels became human on their own
Yeah, but in Nier's case, Humanity had no choice but to make sad vessels to backup themselves with and it all went to shit be cause Devola and Popola fricked their one job and didn't explain to Nier what Shades actually are and that Weiss and Noire need to be merged to solve the whole problem and cure Yonah. Also Replicant sentient didn't amount to shit because replicants behaved 100 percent like their intended vessels so that whole issue replicants losing their identity to merge with shades was a non issue in the first place. Here the so called technological step is done intentionally, and would have worked out with no real problems if not for Gepetto.
yeah I realized it starts to fall apart when you realize the Shade situation was mostly on devola and popola and for lies of P the tragedy was started by a human and not a puppet
I do like the shared themes of awakening humanity and the fact that both games have boss dialog that you can only hear properly on NG+
>first boss just talks about putting on a show and beating the frick out of you
>scrapped watchman is furious about the kids that'd play with him that later died to the personification disease and is only attacking you because he thinks you're a threat to them
can't wait to see what King of Puppets' dialog is like
The king of puppets was literally trying to warn you about Geppetto and what he intended to do with you and your heart and that he was the one who fricked up everything but you're not listening to him.
He tries to tell you about it nonverbally too via the cutscene beforehand with the puppet performance of "Gepetto" taking "P"'s heart and putting it into the King. He's literally showing you exactly what Gepetto is planning to do with you and the Nameless Puppet.
how do I get a cute girlfriend(male) like the one in OPs pic if I look like this?
So does anything but the katana and some elemental weapons with advance have scaling that starts at A?
What's the secret between Adelina and her sister? Did they exchange places?
Adelina, thanks to petrification disease worsening, lost her ability to sing right at the height of her career most likely, so in order to keep her stardom, she had her sister sing in her place and they played records for her to mimic along with.
No, it's worse than that. You know how you can get a pendant from each of them, and how the pendant is showing the other sister? Look at the pendant that has Adelina's face and think about why that one has its face scratched out.
If you can't figure it out (this does require a bunch of related items to put it all together)Adelina was jealous of her sisters' voice and tricked her into drinking poison, ruining her voice and allowing Adelina to overtake her sister in stardom
So the real red singer was the white stalker and Adelina, the younger sister, was the one we find who had petrification disease?
Yes, but there wasn't really a "switcheroo" or anything.
Adelina was an actress and her sister, Patricia, was a singer, but Patricia was the more popular one and was known all throughout Krat. Adelina only became the popular one after she poisoned her sister and ruined her voice (which is why Patricia became the White Lady, she couldn't sing anymore, and also why you see Adelina's name everywhere but Patricia's name almost never comes up; Patricia's not a star anymore and was just left to be forgotten)
no there was no switch, basically what anon summarized is that Adelina and her sister were both really talented singers but her sister was seen as better, so in order to give her self an edge up on her sister, Adelina poisoned her and ruined her singing voice. Then fast foward to later, Karma bites Adelina in the ass and she gets the petrification disease and her sister who never knew what Adelina had done to her, starts showing Adelina a whole lot of sympathy and pity now that her career is coming to a close thanks to this.
There's a correction I should probably make regarding the pendants; the fricked up one is the one Adelina has depicting Patricia, while the one Patricia has showing Adelina is fine.
So, what the lockets show isn't that Patricia realized it was Adelina that did it. That doesn't make sense since her fight has her thinking that Adelina was killed by puppets, so she did still love her dearly. Adelina fricked up her pendant of Patricia out of jealousy and anger, and then never reached out to her sister after the Frenzy. Patricia assumes she's dead and looks for her, getting killed by P before she can ever find out the truth regarding Adelina.
So just as a clarification, getting the "Free from the Puppet String" ending requires the same steps as the "Rise of P" ending, while only getting as little humanity as possible?
Not an impressive feat really since Bloodborne is straight diarrhea.
>contrarianism
Golden Lie, Proof, and Noblesse are all kinda cool. Which one should i upgrade for NG+?
noblesse and proof are probably the best weapons of their respective types, noblesse has a great moveset and probably the strongest fable art in the game, proof wrecks shit hard with the crit damage amulet
golden lie is pretty disappointing honestly, I like how fast it is but it has pretty bad damage and scaling, wish it got buffed to B/B
I know it's insane cope, but I still haven't played bloodborne since I only play on pc, is this game worth trying to experience something similar?
No, it's a completely different experience. I hate to say it man but if you want to play bloodborne, by that ps4. Not to say this game isn't worth abit of your time regardless or anything, it's just this game isn't bloodborne. Bloodborne is it's own journey, and Lies of P is it's own journey.
I did that with the ps3 and demon's souls and the emulator was able to play it a month after lmao
Its similar in the sense that its a souls game, and the belle epoque vibe of Lies of P is somewhat reminiscent of the victorian horror of Bloodborne I guess, or at least more so than gothic spires and arches of DS3
It's not as good as Bloodbourne, but it's still a good game
I unironically recommend you to wait until bloodborne gets ported on PC, or to play it before Lies of P. The games are different, but if you play Lies of P first you will NOT be able to play Bloodborne again on PS4/PS5 because of the framerate and the age of the game.
It's not a meme. I can't play bloodborne again
You sound moronic, I've played every fromsoftware souls game including elden ring and still enjoy them all the same, and even like demon's souls the most
>wait until bloodborne gets ported on PC
Laxasia phase 2 can go eat my ass. I'm summoning.
is it just me or does the game look kind of amazing? it also runs extremely well, 120fps on 4k maxed native settings. too bad it doesnt have rt
it gets the point across
the statues are disappointingly low detail
yeah, i did notice that. the statues in particular look very low detail, dunno why though.
It's funny that seeing Geppetto for the first time doesn't seem to actually trigger any sort of memory for P like how the necklace/Romeo does.
Geppetto really fricked up with Carlo, it would be ironic if the reason why Carlo's memories never really awoke in P properly was simply because Carlo was somehow defying his father from beyond the grave and not giving his father the satisfaction of succeeding in his crazy plan, as revenge for being a shitty dad that only seemed to care about him in death.
I think what happened is that Gepetto was going to control P the same way he did the Nameless Puppet (the glove thing) but Sophia got to P first since she wanted P to kill her and Gepetto had to work around it. He mentions that he finds P's behavior to be unpredictable, and Sophia didn't give two shits about Krat and just wanted to die, she only started caring about it after P starts caring about the people around him and becoming human.
In fact I think it's very intentional that P never really awakens to Carlos' memories, because the point is that P ends up being a different entity than what Carlos was. You can see it in a lot of NPCs like Antonia who knows that while they look like Carlos, it's ultimately not the same person and she thanks him as just "the boy who resembles Carlos".
>Carlos
Honestly, i never see any Soulsborne clone being shilled this hard, is it because it's a Korean game ?
>shilled
people just like the game because its good. you can also play it "for free" on gamepass so thats also pretty nice.
Because it's the first Souls clone that actually feels like a Souls game and not a cheap knockoff
It's because it isn't absolute shit for a change
Yes, but mainly because PCgays are still coping about bloodborne and are forcing this to be some kind of alternative.
Seeing LoP shilling unironically makes me respect PMgays even more. They might be schizo but at least they keep it to themselves never try to compare their game to any Japshit or go "Muh better than Japan product" like any other asiaticgays in this site
>not a new IP
have a nice day
my personal opinion
>Best are the humanoids
What a surprise, why is this always the case?
best part of BB, best part of Lies of P.
I must be the only one who liked swamp monster.
Do not bring your evil here.
now do a weapon and arms tier list
I cannot do an objective one yet because I havent done a dex build. That's my next NG+ cycle.
But I find Pandemonium, Puppet String, and Aegis to be the best arms depending on your playstyle. Though an Advance build will use the shock and flame arms very liberally as well.
>Black Rabbits
>some of the worst, most cancerous bosses in all of soulslike land
>Nameless Puppet
>the easiest boss in the game
>great
boy
Rabbits are best ganks in soulslikes, From ganks are garbage
Gank fights are inherently shit. They are all bad.
I liked the Bell Gargoyles, Ornstein & Smough, and Demon Prince(s).
The black rabbits are only a shit fight if you're blatantly ignoring the massive visual and audio cues it's shoving in your face.
>First Fight
>Big Bro starts RP walking and rarely attacks when assistance comes in
>The rare times he does attack its the same rush attack with a very loud audio cue
>Second Fight
>Each sibling buffs up and delivers a voice line with subtitles to indicate whos attacking
>Other siblings have loud audio cues when they do an assist
>Final phase where big bro comes in can be dicey if you ignored the above mechanics, as big bro doesnt follow aggro mechanics anymore.
>Beyond that big bro is even easier than the first time because his sword starts broken.
Any souls clone that doesnt take notes from the black rabbits is just destined to have shitty gank boss fights.
They shouldn't have any gank fights at all.
skill issue. if you can't juggle 2 or 3 things at once and be patient, thats your problem.
double monke in sekiro is kino.
Every single multi target boss fight in every single soulslike is absolute trash.
O&S sucks and i'm tired of pretending it doesn't.
> filtered
Filtered would imply i've never beat them, but i did. I have hundreds of hours in each of these games, i have 100% in most of them. It's just that every time i reach any of those bosses i know that i'm in for the absolute opposite of fun.
I actually agree with you that O&S is shit, and is only a good gank fight by pure accident.
Black Rabbits a gank fight designed with thought and thus is a good fight.
Bruh, even the second Black Rabbit fight is not as annoying as DS2's gank squad.
its also bad because the fight just ends if you kill the elder bro
woooow what an achievement
SO hard to be better than blurrborne kek
should i get the belford spaced armor or the fiber-reinforced one
This game feels like
> level Vitality
> level Vitality
> level some more Vitality
Im only at 23 Vit, and nothing except bosses is doing more than 1/5th of my HP with a single hit.
Have you considered blocking?
Coward shit, facetank everything like a chad.
i think you misunderstood me. im saying i'm losing frick all HP because investing in Vitality is borderline broken.
im literally trading face to face with bosses like I never could in any FROM game. I could take 3 hits, and still swing, until I reach the threshold of say 40% then roll out of there to heal.
lol and waste stamina? its much more fun to face tank with the police baton. you can literally get like 6 or 7 R1s in before having to bail
that changes later. early game its like that, then late game bosses do little damage but have like 100k hp
The only stat worth investing into is capacity
what on earth? why? so you can dance around with the big wrench or something?
Def equipment, boss amulets
Being anything but lightweight is a death sentence in this game, but all the good weapons and amulets are heavy as shit.
Then youre playing the game wrong. Just equip the heaviest shit you have and level capacity do youre just under 80%.
You dont need to dodge when parrying is 20x better
Have fun being constantly at 0 stamina
coincidence or inspired?
Robot arms are just in vogue now.
Graphic design in game development there are no mistakes. Everything is intentional and fully vetted before implementation.
So what are the most broken weapon combos and arm?
really liking police baton handle and the wrench
im also using the standard arm of steel because the weight reduction does more for me
3rd playthrough btw
Why is it that the Chinese are wholly incapable of having an original thought? Did they burn out all their ingenuity by the early 12th century?
>burned out
More like killed out. I'm sure when they were slaughtering millions, some intelligent people got caught up in that
frick originality. i've been wanting a Bloodborne clone for years. It just needs to be 2/3rds as good as BB, and thats what I think Lies of P is.
actually it's Korean and it's better than anything the west has shit out in recent memory... get it right, bigot!
I missclicked and destroyed the krat police baton. am I just fricked now? can you buy it anywhere after you obtained it
fricking seething right now
anon...
PLEASE TELL ME I CAN BUY IT SOMEWHERE
WHY THE FRICK DID THEY THINK A BUTTON FOR DESTROYING WEAPONS WAS A GOOD IDEA
Nah you're fricked, only that one police mob drops it so you can't get a new one until NG+
how do you destroy a weapon? do you mean take apart handle from weaponshaft, because you can just reattach them?
you can also sell them
WITH A BIG WRENCH ON HIS HIP
It was good but to say it's better than Bloodborne is just pure PCtoid cope.
Best arm vs bosses? best arm vs mobs?
I've been using Fulminus vs Bosses, Puppet string vs mobs. I'm only early to midgame if it matters.
Wait, is all this shit about LoP being better than BB coming from its availability on PC? If Bloodborne were on PC would Lies of P be forgotten immediately?
>Wait, is all this shit about LoP being better than BB coming from its availability on PC?
It took you until now to figure it out?
>If Bloodborne were on PC would Lies of P be forgotten immediately?
Absolutely.
Not running at sub30 fps makes it already better than bloodborne
It took me 3 hours to beat The Eldest of the Black Rabbit Brotherhood. Am I bad at this game?
Yeah, you're pretty bad.
If you didn't use a spectre then you did better than all the players that cheated and didn't truly beat the boss
>died like 10 times in NG+ from falling off the cathedral rafters after never falling off them in NG
Bruh
Overconfident
yeah i died like 4 times to the same fatso who kept throwing the corrosion ball at me and pushing me off. it seems to knock you 2 metres out of the way even if you block.
This board is so obsessed with comparing games. For what? It’s cool that there are two games of comparable quality with similar themes to play through. Why isn’t that enough for you people?
I haven’t played lies of P yet, but even if it does turn out to be better than bloodborne, that doesn’t diminish the quality of Bloodborne. It’s still an excellent game.
low IQ morons can't fight off the primal desire to pick a team
Caveman clan mentality
ive played both, and love both. both have small flaws but who cares.
i don't like the lack of world reset ( without going to hunters dream and back), and i hate the vial system in BB.
in LoP, the voice acting is fricking dogshit. whenever geppetto, gemini, the random korean blacksmith talk I mute my headphones. also the large bosses are dull. its just " get behind and bash them" like DS1.
still have, or will play both 3 times each.
>the voice acting is dogshit
What third world language are you playing in? The english VA is good.
Tribalism is based.
> this is your brain on skub
>year of our lord 2023
>there are still anti-skub subhumans on this board
Disgusting
Be loser. Needs a win. Takes a team in video game wars. Shitposts until others give up. Feels like winner. MANY SUCH CASES
I wouldn’t say better. I think it does a fantastic Job of iterating on the Souls formula which is really all I ask for. It’s damn good game and it’s sad that allot of people will pass it up because of LE BLOODBORNE REFERENCE. It’s really its own thing and tells a more coherent story.
Why does Bloodborne STILL live rent free in Ganker's head so hard?
Because PC gamers will never ever have it
Still not playing, tired of these tryhard games.
Not with an 80 metacritic it does
Neowiz marketeers really need to stop being ridiculous. Just leave it at your derivative slop is good to decent, no need to go into hyperbole and look completely foolish
goddamnit. I wasted like 7 or 8 attempts attempts at killing Puppet of the Future, till I realised you can just drain the poison swamp.
Then I killed him first time back. Before finding the swampdrain pump I was so sure it was a DPS check where you basically have to come in fast and heavy as frick, and kill him ASAP before you are die of poison.
>he drained the poison
You didn't beat puppet of the future.
Good luck draining the swamp for the next 2.
Imagine a sequel where P has grown up.
whats the point of emotes in a single player game?
Venigni's a playboy, he's probably into this
Gesture at the statue that tells you to pray near the church
Broken puppet requires them to give you rewards
multiple NPCs in the hotel react to different gestures
a puzzle requires it
might be more uses I'm forgetting
So now that the game's been out what ended up being stonger overall, the DEX shit or STR weapons? I could never decide at the start
Dex. If you want a heavy hitter you can still slap a big blade on a Technique handle, but if you want a fast hitting Motivity weapon you're (mostly) out of luck.
also, why does the cat hate me?
Because you're just a useless puppet
im human
>hair still rigid and artificial.
Merely a puppet.
lie
lie
On New Game +, where do I even go from here with stats? Already feeling pretty damn strong.
why not start over completely, and do an Advance run of zapping and burning shit.
I might spec into that if this current run gets boring.
Some dude on here mentioned a while ago that one of the boss weapons "breaks out of its shell and becomes a different weapon" when you use it enough, what was he talking about? Did i get memed on?
Frozen Feast.
Lords of the Fallen will shit on lies of P
We must really be desperate to hate and seethe about this game if we're being reduced to crying about what platforms it's out on.
so they added a bot summon system but didnt bother to add co-op. why?
Because coop doesn't make any sense in games where you play one specifically defined character.
as if they couldnt just asspull something out. not an excuse.
They don't need an excuse. They didn't want to do coop so they didn't. These games don't need coop.
you have no friends or gf, so you wouldnt understand.
If P wants to become human, all he needs is to have sex with a human. I volunteer.
why would he want to become a human? humans are inferior.
You =/= humanity
Hi Gepetto. Yes, we've taken your boy pussy. No, we're not giving it back.
if I was Geppetto I would've shoved P under the desk and used him as my personal wienerwarming cumdump ngl
he's too beautiful
He really is, and him being artificial/robotic makes it better. I love 9S for the same reasons.
Japanese game is dead. Phil Fish was right.
Japan used to make some great games like persona 5,dark souls 3,FFXIV,FF7R,BoTW,Animals crossing,Sekiro,Nier Automata,Xenoblade 2,DE,Super smash bros ult, Lost judgement, Nioh 2,Like a dragon 7,MH world,RE 7, Judge eyes,Death stranding and DMC5,(according to metacritics)
from 2017 to early 2020, but how can they fall so soon and gets mogged by Hoyoverse and Neowiz so easily, for having no good game with metascore higher than genshin(81-84) since 2021?
Genshin,Starrail,Lies of P,Scarlet desert,Black Myth Wukong and Zenless zone Zero reduces DMC5,Dark souls 3,Sekiro, FFXIV,MHW,Elden ring,RE4,ToTK into a mediocre shovelware.
At least we Westerners still make good games like Avowed, MS flying sim, D4 and OW2,Halo infinity, AoE4,Elder scrolls 6,STARFIELD,Modern warfare 2,BG3,MK1,Remnant 2.
What is left in Japan now?
Anime? China makes it better and Solo leveling will be the AOTS next year.
Comics? Korea makes it better, Webtoon.
Game? China and Korea makes them better.
Porn? Banned by New law on AV.
Japan is nothing!!!
Does your oil turn into blood as you become human?
No, you will never be a real boy.
Can the two morons just repeating "muh numbers" at each other take their shit to Discord or at least another thread?
yes i am using a trainer for the game, how did you know?
Souls games coming to PC was a mistake
Honest question, if a friend has Gampass and they just lend me their log in info...I can just play this on my PC, right?
what sort of limitations would there be? I assume the only limitation is they can't log in to their gamepass while I'm using it on my PC?
They would need gamepass ultimate, not basic or regular. Aside from that I don't know that it wouldn't work.
>They would need gamepass ultimate, not basic or regular
I don't get it, why? isn't it the same thing as them installing their shit on a new PC? the difference is the "new pc" is me
Because only ultimate has PC games.
Basic is replacing xbox live and has about 20 games, regular is the whole xbox library, ultimate is xbox plus PC plus cloud, so on PC you can play all the xbox titles plus the PC exclusives.
ah, right. My bad
>Because only ultimate has PC games.
so what the frick is "PC game pass" ? it's 10 bucks and says it has all he PC games, including lies of P?
The basic game pass has Lies of P.
Ultimate version just adds cloud gaming and other benefits.
is "pc game pass" the same as "basic game pass"? too many damn names
Presumably PC is the equivalent of regular tier on xbox then, all the PC games but no cloud and whatever else. I don't play on PC though. The key thing is you need to check what gamepass your friend has
coool
I don't know, I gave my best answer and it wasn't good enough.
>Because only ultimate has PC games.
No lol, I have the cheapest gamepass available for PC and it has everything
Gamepass ultimate is like x3 the price and u pay for bunch of shit u dont need like xbox games, the frick are u talking about anon
I don't get it, what did this game do to send Ganker into a shitstorm of rage and hate? It's not Nintendo, it's not Bethesda, it's not made by Americans, it's not an MMO.
At least 50% of Ganker's population is composed of poor third-world posters.
The game has denuvo.
Just do the math.
I have seen maybe three or four posts complaining about denuvo. In fact you and I are the only ones who have typed that word in this thread.
>twink mc riles up straightgays
>souls cloned gameplay riles up fromtroons
>denuvo riles up piratebros
>korean studio riles up weeaboos
>difficulty riles up streamer-watching zoomers
take your pick
>some autistic keeps review spamming every thread
Get a fricking grip lad, christ almighty, it might do you some good to take a break from this shit all day.
>land on bear trap
>black rabbit brotherhood member flirts with you
what the frick this came out of nowhere
Requesting that laxasia butt pic.
just for (you)
Thanks, babe.
Is this just like that Fables comic book where the big bad guy is actually Gepetto?
I was really struggling with the eldest of the black rabbits, but then I realized I could just firebuff my great pipe wrench and then wombo combo him with Charged attack > visceral >3x fable attack >+fire and I killed him without him being able to react or his brothers being able to help at all lol.
I only just found the big pipe wrench but upgraded to +3 right away and just 1 hit kill everything. It seems so overpowered
its really damn slow which is the tradeoff and makes a lot of bosses kind of hard in that regard. make sure to give it a motivity handle too so it will scale A with motivity and you're all set to unga bunga your enemies. the fable art with it is really good. you can fire it off pretty fast and its great at stunning
Yeah I've popped it on the upgraded police baton handle and it's absolutely fine for mobs so far. Prior I was using the axe and I think it's the same speed ish
NOT MY PEE ORGANS
wait is one of the black rabbits a girl or is it a twink
The game is based off of industrial era Europe. There is no gay people. The rabbit is a woman that wears lipstick.
Anything at at least 60 fps is better than bloodborne. I tried playing it on friends ps4 an it was like 10 fps I kid you not. How the frick bloodborn so popular if it runs like absolute dogsht? Is 15 fps 720p the norm for sonyboys?
Go play bing bing wahoo you Ninten-year-old
Yeah that includes bing bing wahoo. And I hate nintendoshit. All good games are on pc, 2k 120 fps at least
Yeah, Bloodborne isn't bad either. The worst on ps4 was The Last Guardian. Genuinely unplayable. If you want to see some real shit try blight town on ps3
>NG+
Jesus Christ I'm not good enough at video games for this.
I'm finding New Game + easier than my first playthrough by far.
I don't know if I trust Geppetto
>walk in malum district
>get cat called by masked women
She wants to keep your dead body
I seriously wonder what the frick she meant by that line when you die in the boss battle.
She's just deranged like everyone else in that game, also frick these illegible captchas man
500 won have been deposited to your account.
i found the perfect sword to go alongside the drip
I hate Gemini so much bros
sophia and the korean blacksmith seem so out of place compared to the rest of the game, I get it due to the studio but its like they took korean MMO hoes and put them in a bloodborne game, the style difference is a bit jarring
Doesn't matter, i WILL suck Eugenies toes!
any other motivity weapons I should look out for for mid/late game? I've been using the giant pipe wrench so far
The Puppet Axe in the Barren Swamp. Slap it on the Police Baton handle and you have a super fast and hard hitting weapon with a fast charge attack and high block rate.
It honestly trivializes the game somewhat.
Holy frick man booster handle and the sawblade is actual sex
You are my homie
People will commit to something like this and then wonder why they're getting filtered by something like swamp mon
I dumpstered swamp mom with that combo though