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RTS went down hill, and also I guess they lost the license no long after.
Also What I wonder is If anybody would want to make a lotr RTS.
>anybody would make LotR RTS
I guess bigger problem would be finding audience. LotR is not 100% niche subject, but golden age is long gone. For both franchise and RTS. Also no one really wants to touch either WB or Tolkien free real estate. I wonder when we hit the point when people will earn for more classical fantasy in their genres. Or at least more TBS/RTS games.
The "sequel" felt like anything but because it was even less lore-friendly than the first game.
I prefer BMFE2
but yea it's closer to the standard RTS
i think BFME2's campaigns were "worse", but the gameplay much better
NTA. but I liked witch king DLC. Eh was a pretty cool dude.
what was the "loreundriendly " that you remember?
angmar stuff?
the OC creator?
That Aman elf being kinda sorta not really the main guy and having everyone shoved into the same faction.
have a nice day.
>having everyone shoved into the same faction.
im not understanding this, LoTRBFME2RotLK have the factions divided even more
>All elves together
>All men together
This was shit, I'd much rather have Gondor and Rohan as different factions.
>muh lore
homosexual
>even less lore-friendly
Nothing outside of the original works is lore friendly. Including the first game just by virtue of it being based on an inaccurate adaptation.
>puts furries in the game
this is why I hate it
Only playable with the Edain mod
I always found weird looking the giant wolf, but any way, what is this, Endain mod you are talking about?
Sauron's original battle form was his wolf form but he got the shit kicked out of him by a giant talking dog who served the hottest elf who ever lived and her husbando
Yes, Boner and bawdhien, when legendary author stoop down to fanfic self insert level. Easily the weakest part of Silm.
>legendary author stoop down to fanfic self insert level
uwu
Damn, was this from the first game? I don't remember there being sync kills in 2.
The balrog was so fricking OP in mp (in the first game)
>turtle whole game as Isengard
>tech up until you can spawn a balrog
>bring army to enemy base
>pop a balrog outside the walls, fly over the walls, get off one fire-breath attack against his buildings and chop at them a few times before you die (this will destroy a few buildings every time)
>rinse and repeat
Literally nothing the opponent could do since your base was unmolested and defended by walls, and he loses the attrition war because he gets such large interrupts in his unit production
>Isengard basr
>protected by walls
Bruh
Isen can't even summon a balrog you dumb homosexual
Yes they can
t. actually played the game
>BFME 1 had a good and evil campaign
>BFME 2 had a good and evil campaign
>ROTWK had an evil campaign with a good epilogue mission
REEEE I WANTED TO SAVE ARNOR YOU SHITS
An unreal engine 4 remake is being worked on. Unfortunately, progress is slow.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-battle-for-middle-earth-reforged
https://youtube.com/channel/UCCLe3p0r-qSEfcWTTJWR04A
It's going to get a nice fat dmca take down I bet
From EA? WB Games? Neither has the full rights to BfmE.
does this game even need a remake?, the graphics have aged just fine imo
how stable really is?
there's some minor inherent lag, probably due to some spaghetti code in the engine somewhere, but it's nothing game-breaking, In fact once you start playing it, you might not even notice it. During all these years I've had only a few game crashes tho, but still i don't think it's necesary to remake a dead game
>war of the ring
you mean the game or the map painter mode of bfme2?
Or the tabletop game, or that bland RTS by the guys who made Battle Realms.
funny how lotr despite having so much lore, most of its games are actually bland, in fact I think that the best lotr game nowadays is a rotwk mod haha
No that RTS from the same guys that made battle realms.
>bland
Idk. It was pretty stylish. Well they also made some really questionable changes to canon.
>No that RTS from the same guys that made battle realms.
idk, i like both. That game was fun but haradrims were a pain in the ass
It has some neat graphical features like grasses that bend as your units walk over them or water that ripples when you hover your mouse over. But after BR blew my mind with its revolutionary unit training and abilities mechanics, WotR just so generic in comparison.
NTA. But I think it's fine, a bit bland for my taste. But I always prefered war of the ring style more.
I agree, combined with lotr music maps feel really comfy, nice ambience, wild animals running around, tree branches slowly waving swaying, small streams at the edges of the map
shame I dont have time to play it anymore
bullshit, everyone has a few hours a week to play
No, it doesn't. Just like Empire at War doesn't need one. I don't really understand why people are hyping those graphics mods so much when they aren't really adding any new content. Especially since they will get c&d sooner or later.
Both games could use a sequel though.
Empire of war's engine is dogshit. It really slows to a crawl if you go past the unit limit which is pretty small.
Battle for Middle Earth (DoW too btw) could really use an upgrade due to the horrendous unit path finding
And what will the campaign be about? Silmarillion with more Fins than all the fishes in Pacific? Numenoreans kicking Sauron's butt and then sailing to Valinor? 4th age OC?
if it had ever ran on my early 00s shitbox, I could tell ya
as it was, it was the most expensive game young me ever bought, and I had the min specs it just refused to launch
Go shill your game somewhere else
>people talk about stuff they like
>must be shill if they dont talk about stuff they hate
>Shill your game
It's like 18 years old and the only way to get it is to download it for free.
Funny enough with the sequel, even when I have the original discs and my cdkeys, the "anti piracy" bug triggers and cant play it.
Have to download a pirate version to be able to play it.
My discs are fricked and don't even work anymore. Still have them though, but if I want to play I just download.
Old anti-piracy stuff had a tendency to be programmed with no future proofing at all, so they just don't work with newer Windows. Hell, sometimes they are so fricked they won't work even on old Windows because your components weren't on an approved list or something dumb like that.
this game was quite big back in the day, underage homosexual
For me it's Age of the Ring.
>BFME:Reforged
NEVER
EVER
not in a few years at least
The mods in MP were insane. Some were maps that covered the whole trilogy
I still play the second game and it's really good and has some high quality great mods with age of the ring and edain, my problem with edain being that it requires a cd, real or emulated, at all times, fricking German autists went overboard with pirate protection in a free game that can't even be bought anymore, and yes I solely blame this in the fact that devs of the mod are German.
Since when edain requires that?, i used to play it around 2017 and never had that problem
What, CD being needed has been something they put literally as a part of installation guide? They even give you a link for a mini cd image there
nah man, i used to play it with some pre-cracked repack downloaded from somewhere without problems. Never used any mini-image
well that sucks, fricking some dudes over some dead game, give me a break
The team is German and there was apparently a real chance of them getting sued for breaking German copyright laws and that's why mod requires a CD
>age of the ring
That's my jam. Don't really care that much about Harad but the Lothlorien stuff they've teased is great looking. Wish Erebor didn't use the dull Hobbit designs though as the vanilla game's designs had much more soul.
Personally I'm excited for Harad cause i love easterlings to the point where i play mordor but with easterlings exclusively, also based, I'm not the bugest fan of hobbit movies myself, i mean aesthetics are cool i guess so I don't mind but still
Aren't they still going to be saddled with Mordor aside from the chariot summon harad gets? I think I saw somebody with too much time on their hands trying to make Easterlings an independent faction on their discord. The stuff they showcased wasn't up to par with Age of the Rings standards, but if you don't get your fix with Harad then you may want to check it out, that is if it actually manages to release. Regardless, Easterling aesthetic is top tier and you are an anon of taste.
>i mean aesthetics are cool i guess so I don't mind but still
I think they did the best they could with them but most of them are too dull for my tastes. BFME2 did a great job with the dwarf designs IMO and I just find myself wishing they had stuff similar to those instead.
>Aren't they still going to be saddled with Mordor aside from the chariot summon harad gets?
Yes actually, i made a classic mistake where i defaulted to calling all human factions who follow Sauron easterlings out of convince, Harad is a southern faction, and i haven't heard about that submod actually.
>BFME2 did a great job with the dwarf designs IMO and I just find myself wishing they had stuff similar to those instead.
That is true, regular BFME 2 desigs are more vibrant and interesting compared to Hobbit's typical metallic and a more generic approach.
Like 10 years ago, I somehow helped make BFME2 a thing in my local PC-cafe.
It was great, most were playing it, especially the youngins. Squaring off against brutal AI in coop was great; we'd play together covering eachother as the AI would usually focus a single player steamrolling ad infinitum. So the others could focus on eco and reinforcements. Crazy battles that lasted all game long, an eternal meat grinder. Using dwarf to AoE ragdoll all the models was beyond epic.
>meteors
>leap
>slam
>meteors
>leap
>slam
you had a pc cafe in 2012? lucky bastard. most were gone by like 2004 where i was. counter strike 1.6 had just come out when they were starting to die off.
>mfw the Rohirrim squadron I named and accompanied Eomer from the first mission dies at Minas Tirith
Sad
I know that feel, but the game doesn't force you to summon them only for the greenies to upstage their sacrifice.
Save bfme.
people won't play bfme until it comes to steam, most people are just lazy fricks
>until it comes to steam
So...never?
yes, never
PC gaming was a mistake
steam monopoly was a mistake, now people are afraid of downloading anything that isn't on steam
Streaming monopoly of the mind is worst of all. All young people only play games if a streamer plays it.
what about the old players, this game had a lot of players before the servers shut down
There's a small and active community anon, you can play through either T3A or gameranger
Is anyone here actually part of the Reforged alpha/beta?
New Reforged video out. Just talks about the Balrog, but looks pretty good.
I heard one of these has a Total War style grand campaign map. Is it true? Can't find a clear answer on Google.
Really want a turn-based campaign with RTS battles similar to Total War, or the Coh2 Ardennes Offensive dlc.
BFME 2 has War of the Ring. I wish they did more with that, would've been cool.
It's a bit expanded in aotr.
Both have almost equal amount of downsides and upsides imo
BFME1
>Better, more interesting campaigns. That switching between tactical/rtt missions where you mostly have only heroes from Fellowship of the Ring to the typical rts where you command entire armies as Faramir/Eomer was great in particular. Also Ian Mckellen and Christoper Lee VA
>Units carrying between missions is great too. I don't remember if that's still the case in nonRisk campaign in BFME2
>Walls on which you could put units
>Siege units
>But no free base building
>Only 4 factions, Dorfs and Elves don't have theirs, and not to mention absence of more exotic ones. Rohan and Gondor are separate
BFME2
>All around more content
>Unrestricted base building, but walls are now Age of Empires style fences and no dedicated siege units like laddermen
>More factions, Dorfs and Elves have their own, but Rohan and Gondor for some reason got merged which is dumb as frick
>More fanfiction in faction design which does give them more room for better gameplay, but campaign isn't as cool and feels like bad fanfic.
>Character creator is nice
>Risk style campaign map is very simplistic but it's something to give meaning to otherwise pointless skirmish battles
>Still alive modding community
I think I prefer BFME2 mostly because of the last point. I think Edain even goes back to BFME1 restricted building style with functional walls, so it's basically BFME1 gameplay on BFME2 engine. I never tried it though, because I couldn't get it to work on pirate.
Age of the Ring seems more in line with BFME2 gameplay and is great as well. Also devs of this mod are hosting clean pirate version of the game to download from their forum and mod works perfectly fine on such a version.
These games are simply mediocre RTSs. Remove the LOTR name from them and they simply become forgetable games.
I liked the graphics and music though.
Bfme/rise of the witch king mods always sucked ass and lagged like hell even in singleplayer. Genuinely surprised how the frick do people play 4v4s 8 player FFA on gameranger using any of russian monkey mods when game runs on fricking slow motion even in 1v1s or 2v2s.
Unofficial 2.02 is the least laggy "mod" although its not comparable to the original game.
Works fine on my machine.
I just play version 1.09 base game not WOTWK. Best balance at least for a single player and co-op experience.
2.02 is just a patch and works the same as any other version, blame EA's spaguetti code, the engine has the lag, unless you re-do it from scratch it will continue to have lag
I know its a patch but I consider it a mod because it added a few troops and changed the power trees or how some power work(blight), not that I disagree with the change.
I did notice a considerable difference between official 2.01 and 2.02 in multiplayer though
2.01 was a mess, blight used to be worthless, there were many unused units, I know many guys who left after 2.02 became a thing but I think it had to be done, also it focuses on balancing instead of just adding stuff that's why i don't see it as a mod, but still who cares about technicalities
I like having physical copies of old games. If I buy this will I be able to play if without having to download a pirate copy?
>if I buy this
I think it's like 200 bucks to buy this game and play it, assuming the disks still work. Mine don't, I just play on a pirated copy.
£19.99 on ebay
Damn price has dropped from when I looked at it years ago.
You can play it but you need all the patches to play online, luckily installing latest patches installs previous ones as well along a easy to use patch switcher so you can play whichever version you want
Shameless bump.
just let it die bro
Witch king was shit
>Give us evil campaign
>No way to do an Arnor campaign where you save them
Reeee
Because the studio EALA went back to making C&C games