>200 hours of playtime
>600 spells
>46 subclasses
>two million words of dialogue
>170 hours of cinematics
Larian won.
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>200 hours of playtime
>600 spells
>46 subclasses
>two million words of dialogue
>170 hours of cinematics
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>Larian
>two million words
That's a lot of painfully unfunny tongue in cheek self referential "humor"
nothing can be as bad as what you type on here in a daily manner
nice
Seething white males, such snowflakes, we told you 100 times we were making a savvy in joke about tabletop.
This. 95% of the game's content is filler, woke shit, or porn shit.
Nail me to the cross but BG3 Act 1 was fricking funny. DA:O was quipshit a decade and a half ago and nobody complained
Larian doesn't have that problem to the degree something like WotR has.
I legit always hated what Bioware dating sims became in the 00's but the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. Everyone's gross and unlikeable.
kek
double kek
I really do hope they hired a new writer though. Their storytelling was actually quite good but the actual story and writing is always awful
>cinematics
shot, reverse shot, cringe dialogue
>FRICKING KINO
>200 hours of playtime
>170 hours of cinematics
Yikes. Only 30 hours of actually playing the game?
All jokes aside, though, the cinematics in EA are pretty shit, to say nothing of the rendering issues.
it can't be worse than TOR or Andromeda
35 D A Y S
5
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In other words, the game is 30 hours long.
Act 1 alone is 20ish so there's no way.
>>two million words of dialogue
how much of it is AI generated?
I unironically think some of the text I saw in the new Pathfinder game was AI generated.
I can't cite specific examples but there are certain phrases that GPT uses all the time, especially when horny.
FemDrow sexo
FemGoblin sexo
FemOrc sexo
FemDuergar sexo
FemHalfling sexo
FemGnome sexo
FemGith sexo
Am I missing anyone?
Thiefling
That's a man
Why does she have metal in her arms, and what is going on with her chest?
Karlach was a frontline soldier in the Avernus Blood War.
Basically an eternal war between demon princes. It's the closest thing you'll find in D&D to the absurdity that is Warhammer 40k in terms of sheer scale and level of bloodshed.
A lot of tieflings find their way onto that battlefield and Karlach is one of them.
This is why she has a broken horn.
And burn scars.
And metal stapled to her flesh.
And why she's female body type 2.
And presumably why her heart burns so brightly with hellfire it's shines through her flesh like light through your fingertips resting on a flashlight.
Oh I knew that, I just didn't remember her looking like that last time I played, though it has been quite a while since then.
>And presumably why her heart burns so brightly with hellfire it's shines through her flesh like light through your fingertips resting on a flashlight.
Noice. She's romanceble right?
pretty sure they said every party member can be romanced
They said almost all.
Which means people like Minsc or Jaheira probably won't be romanceable but who knows, maybe Jaheira can make it 3 for 3.
I don't wanna fug her, but I like her edgy "look at me I'm a edgy demon!" design
isint she good aligned though?
Dragonborn. I need Dragonborn wife.
I know nothing of who that woman thing is but I want to drive a spear through the back of her head the second I can.
Why are larian shills so mentally I'll lately? Shilling so hard for free that game, afraid your shitty game will be a failure like you in real life?
>afraid your shitty game will be a failure
SAY IT WITH ME
2 MILLION DAY ZERO
2 million only 50k on steam, next argument shill, drone ? have a nice day
Why do you post this in every BG3 thread?
Why do you pretend that every BG3 thread isn't shat up by the same old twitter screencaps and seething about a joke Larian made over a year ago?
begone shill
my wife, shadowheart
i hope the full game doesn't have as many redskins as the prologue does cause holy shit i only played like 5 hours of early access but it seemed like 80% of characters were tieflings. it felt wrong since original bg did not have them at all
The real problem is how many fricking elves are in the party
go to the underdark or goblin camp
It kinda made sense, they were refugees trying to reach Baldur's Gate.
>it felt wrong since original bg did not have them at all
The Forgotten Realms is a massive setting spanning hundreds of in universe years across dozens of comic book series, over 50 video games, more than 100 adventure modules, and well over 400 novels.
It goes far beyond what was established in two isometric RPGs from the 90's and the city itself has changed and evolved significantly across numerous pieces of media since then.
I want to eat her out
>every female companion is fricking ugly as shit
Shadowheart and Minthara are cute
Karlach is cute in the PS5 screenshot
no
Yes, also frick you
you are incorrect
Lae'zel is cute
bwo, your mods?
this b***h is cute, too bad she's a degen polyamorous roastie
i can fix her
That's Lae'zel you're referring to.
>too bad she's a [female]
shadowheart is ugly? get your test lvls chekt
its the bangs, elf is great without them
>200 hours of playtime
>170 hours of cinematics
I would assume some of those being mutual but that's gotta be at least half cutscene
They're almost certainly counting ever little minor dialogue and permutation
>200 hours of playtime
>170 hours of cinematics
Cinematics arent counted as play time right..?
Only if you try to get the Big Boss emblem.
every bg3 thread has the same 200 comments about trannies
Larian making greatest rpg of all time and we still have to deal with Ganker schizos.
The surest sign of a good game is if it attracts a schizo on Ganker
>combat system is still the boring D&D system intended for sitting at a table with friends
>doesn't translate worth a shit to video games
>Divinity had infinitely more compelling combat and world interactions
My disappointment is tremendous.
Going from leaping into combat, knocking down every enemy around you, then turning your skin to iron to tank their hits when they get up to hording your special abilities to use once per short rest or once per day is fricking garbage.
BG3 is actually way too generous with rests to the point where you're barely penalized for blowing everything in every encounter and just resting immediately (bonus points for 90% of party interactions depending on resting frequently enough to see the camp scenes)
>turn based
go play with sticks and stones granpa, this isn't the 1970s anymore. Imagine listening to the whining and crying of the 38 year olds that play D&D on pen and paper.
>RTwP autists have arrived
Make sure you pre-cast defenses and spam summons against enemies.
you mean like you'd do in real life, for ACTUAL strategy because that's how actual combat works? Wow so weird, wanting a game to be more realistic
>RTwP battles
>Strategy
does it have any cute boys to romance though?
I can't believe there's now IRONIC SHILLING
WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS
You don't play videogames. Shut the frick up.
have a nice day shill, how mentally ill you need to be to play the same chapter who's 20 hours max for 9 times ? Larian drones can't expect a lot
Shill change the IP at least the numbers of posters remain the same
>waaaah waaaah every game must be shit because ???????????????????
die Black person
Why does BG1 and BG2 art look like AI made it?
THIS is AI made by me just now with Microsoft Edge Image Creator, (copyright me). No stealing
>Microsoft Edge Image Creator
You are like a little baby.
Watch this.
looks infinitely worse than my art. Here, have another. A drow female
Looks pretty cool, anon.
>I know they are photoshopped edits of employees from Bioware at the time
That makes me like them a lot more.
Am I the only one that likes the original Baldur's Gate portraits? I know they are photoshopped edits of employees from Bioware at the time. But I just feel they exude a certain character about them. Though to be fair, I am not as much of a fan of the BG2 portraits.
Better yet, this was the first img2img pass over the BG2 portrait with SD.
prompt for that artstyle?
words is such a moronic metric. How many lines of dialogue is that? It really feels like they trotted out "words" in order to avoid direct comparison with Bethesda who measured their dialogue in lines. Or maybe they just threw the entire script into a word processor and looked at the word count.
I am genuinely so excited for this game, bros. It's been a while since I had this feeling...
I just hope it doesn't fall apart in the back half again
you are all paid shills, there is no way a real human being looks forward to turn based soulless larian garbage. Story already looks like shit, what else do you even play a game like Baldurs Gate for? Rofl? WHY would I play that game if the story is literally irrelevant? That is the core of an RPG adventure, actually going on an interesting quest
>comes in rambling and sperging at full throttle out of NOWHERE
Holy SCHIZO.
notice that they no arguments. Bad games always have brainless fans that cant articulate why the game is supposedly good. Notice the pattern and then avoid making the mistake.
Notice that schizos like you offer no arguments to refute that are based in reality. No one is interested in arguing with your headcanon ramblings and it's not like you're interested in a real discussion as it is.
always the same excuse from you leftie lunatics. I bet you took the vaccine. Now you accuse everyone else of having no argument and you enjoy turn based games. If you love turn based so much go play chess or a mobile game where you build castles and wait 5min until they complete. Everyone else wants to play real games
medications, anon. you need them
Don't worry anon it's obvious to other people too
Fricking trannies lmao
Why are you replying to yourself?
To create the illusion of widespread agreement to offset the strangeness of extremely similar posts in every thread for three years
You're totally right guys, there's nobody that thinks this game is a bad idea, its all purely [group we dislike]'s fault. The game is going to be a masterpiece! Enjoy!
You're totally right guys, there's nobody that thinks this game is a good idea, its all purely [group we dislike]'s fault. The game is going to be a disaster! Greentext!
divinity 2 sold over a million copies with most reviews over 9/10. the only one living in fantasy land is you. BG 3 will be another massive success commercially and critically
>divinity 2 sold over a million copies
It picked up steam from multiplayer getting big with streamers.
A more narrative heavy, single player heavier game like BG3 probably won't benefit as much from that bump.
But Larian does get to bank the clout they built with DoSII and maybe that will be enough.
This game is also multiplayer. IT won't have the same level of streamer bump, but they don't really need it anymore. Divinity legitimized them as the top dog of CRPGs. This game moved over a million in early access ffs. They're also the only people making CRPGs in this fashion so they've got a captive audience.
bg3 has multiplayer though and "official dnd game with co-op" is gonna rake in now that dnd isn't seen as just nerd shit
Feeling's mutual and likewise I am rather cautious about it. I am hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. I wouldn't want another debacle akin to Cyberpunk 2077's release.
I doubt it'll be Cyberpunk tier
cyberpunks release was actually fine, esp on pc. it was the development that was fricked and we all knew it was gonna bomb terribly before hand. not so with bg3
>cyberpunks release was actually fine, esp on pc
it was borderline bethesda-tier buggy, what the frick is wrong with you
i didnt have any bugs i just didnt like the game
We won't be allowed to admit this here for another 5-10 years unfortunately.
>cyberpunks release was actually fine, esp on pc
Nah, the game had actually game breaking bugs on release. For example, one bug was from getting a phone call from the old asian lady but instead of giving you a mission she would just freeze. This prevented you from accepting other missions and interacting with most objects. Rolling back your save wouldn't help because she would eventually call and your game would break.
In Act 2 you are kidnapped by Drow women and forced to endure ritualistic rape
Is it really rape if I requested it?
Its nothing you'll request, you'll be dragged to the underdark and face sat by stinky drow pussy until you nearly suffocate, and just as you begin to catch your breath, they'll just do it again. Lolth commands it.
I will now buy your game
Explain why I still come to Ganker even though I hate it and the moronic meme poisoned homosexuals that post there?
everywhere else is somehow worse
>level 12 cap
at least a third of the game stuck in the tutorial levels of 5e lol
12 is around when 5E falls apart completely as a system anyway
Low level campaigns are better.
Low level DnD is peak comfy kino.
Most dnd campaigns don't go over level 12. It's a sensible cap.
Level 20 you're like a living god. You're not expected to reach it. It's only there in case people want to use it.
That's because most DMs and Players these days aren't good/skilled enough to do high level campaigns. However this is a fricking video game. And paying full price for cut content is fricking bullshit no matter how you shills try to justify it. Kingmaker let you go to 20 so why can't BG3? The first two let you approach level cap.
You literally did not play BG1
Proof?
you think it takes you even close to the level cap
Pathfinder is literally not the same system.
the Early Access beta already has a mod that's been maintained for over 2 years that adds level progression through to 20.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/279?
>12 levels
oh no no no lariansisters...
explain why it is bad.
Bigger numbers are better and they made a DnD game turn based REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you know this mocking shit doesnt work on Ganker right? we all know you came from reddit
You know you're a moronic b***h though, right?
>ay yo u dont be from my html hood dawg, u from dat other website dawg!
I'm not, but have a nice day just the same. You gape ass homosexuals are insufferable.
have a nice day asap
If I were a moronic homosexual like yourself, I'd probably consider it.
get help lad
eat my shit gay
mad lmao
yeah you will be after i shit and piss all over your face
hot
No, but if you've got $10 and some rock I'm sure your mixed race mother will
you gotta be kidding
>DUDE 46 SUBCLASSES
>you wont see half of class features because of level restriction
lol
lmao
Something tells me you're not going to see ANY of the class features. That's okay though, you sit in the corner and let people have fun yeah?
I'm definitelly going to pirate it to check it out
Definitely not going to buy it, ShillBlack person.
No after you fricking homosexuals have been agressivly shilling your shit for weeks across Ganker, /vg/ and /vrpg/.
Hell, you fricking homosexuals got yeeted from /tg/ for trying your shit there.
It comes out in 33 days you Black person, this happens with any game that is close to release.
nta, but this game has been aggressively shilled for a long, long time now, larianhomosexuals have been infesting and trying to derail every single RPG thread with their bullshit
> larianhomosexuals have been infesting and trying to derail every single RPG thread with their bullshit
So this is your grand retribution? Your villain origin story? Some orcs (larianhomosexuals) invaded your village (RPG thread), killed your whole family in front of you and now you must have your revenge?
NTA but my revenge will be complete once you get doxxed and I get to drive to Belgium to stab you in the fricking face.
TOTAL SHILLBlack person DEATH!
>drive to Belgium
That's a long trip from Canada you fricking leaf
No, you paid viral marketing homosexuals, YOU are not welcome.
TOTAL SHILLBlack person DEATH
Gone screaming at a wall, you have.
You are as thick as a fricking wall, thats for sure, shill.
Then why are you in this thread if you aren't interested in the game?
What part of "that's okay though, you sit in the corner" read as an invitation for you to play the game? Stay out, homosexual. Read the sign. It says NOT WELCOME.
Idc I just want to see if they managed to unrape the Champion. It's irredeemable garbage in the tabletop.
I hate the way Gith look in this game. It looks like they didn't bother to create a different face mesh and instead just Oblivion character creator edited the nose smaller and upturned.
Holy frick the shills are going all out
>no no NOOOO HOW CAN PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT TASTES AND OPINIONS THAN ME AAAIIEEEE SHILLS SHILLS SHIIILLLSSSSSS!!!!!
Kwab.
>200 hours of playtime
That's not a good thing.
Invite me to the discord
>46 subclasses
Pillars of Eternity 2 launched with over 50 if I recall correctly, not to mention more base classes and multiclass options. Larian can't even beat a kickstarter game?
Like half of those are Cleric domains and Wizard schools too
I really dislike that they put every wizard school sub in. There's zero point in playing something like illusionist when illusory reality is both impossible to implement in game and also impossible to obtain because it's a 14th level feature.
They should have just done a solasta and given you school agnostic originals like 'warmage' or 'loremaster'.
Constant reminders that this is a hasty wafflestomp job and this is just divos3 with a coat of paint.
so can we have multiple romances going or is it forced monogamy?
how the frick would I know?
Should I pirate this shovelware if I haven't played BG or BG2?
Yes. GOG release so day 1 pirate
yes
Nobody here cares if you live or die, why would we care if you spend time pirating a game you don't like? You should pirate it, delete it, pirate it again, delete it, and just sort of repeat that a dozen or so times.
Not sure why you felt the need to post your "look how much i dont care!!!" sneething reply when I had already collect two (you)s beforehand, but go off king. Bad day at mcdonalds today?
>hey Ganker should I wipe my ass please Ganker help me Ganker I don't know what to do Ganker what should I do!?
this is the most seething reply I have read this fine day
>mfw just finished replay of BG1 and 2
Lads... I'm so fricking going home. I'm going straight home, the WRPG future is bright
I can't wait.
>all that devtime spent writing, voicing and animating the companions
>me and my three bros are gonna go in with a full party and ignore all of that cringe
>waiting for 4 people to have time to play at the same time
you wont finish the campaign before BG4
we already played through divinity os2 and plenty of other games. it turns out four gf-less bros end up having a good deal of overlapping free time.
>gf-less
I'm shocked. This other moron is replying to himself again too. Grab him as a backup man.
>I'm shocked
why would you be? have you forgotten where you are?
Not everyone is like that, I'm here and I'm married for example. It is true that most of this board is unemployable losers though.
there are no bigger losers than married cucks
>Not everyone is like that, I'm here and I'm married for example
absolute shame what's become of this place
do you think I come to Ganker to listen to the fricking moronic dogshit opinions of married 38 year olds? Go back to the social media sites where your worthless opinions are valued
I think you come to Ganker to shout into the ether because you're addicted to youtuber drama and gay memes, and because of that you have no value as person. You think I would ever give half a damn what someone like you thinks? LMAO. No way gay.
for 4 people to have time to play at the same time
This is ironically the true DnD experience
*blocks your path*
I want her
Literally MADE for Red Dragonborn wiener.
>sweaty, hairy grinch woman
Hell no
Man who the FRICK is pursuing sex with THIS
How did Mass Effect have a dozen highly frickable women, literally more hot women than they could even throw at the player and yet zoomers are gonna fight over this leathery toad like dogs over a bone. The west HAS fallen.
>are gonna fight over this leathery toad like dogs over a bone.
huh but the best romance in mass effect is a fricking frog
>its a guy
well duh, women love to frick animals
Too bad he wasn't an option for male Shepard even though they recorded lines for him. Oh well, at least there are mods that restore it.
Not so fast sister
Garrus, the only other male companion besides Thane that male Shepard should've been able to get with.
Fricking T*rian frickers lmao. Frogfrickers in BG3 are like boy scouts compared to your level of xeno degeneracy.
>That was for Thane, you son of a b***h!
>Man who the FRICK is pursuing sex with THIS
me
>Man who the FRICK is pursuing sex with THIS
Me, gonna frick the Gith prostitute and then upgrade to the Tiefling.
>How did Mass Effect have a dozen highly frickable women
A dozen? You could count them on one hand hand which has lost a few fingers:
1. Liara
2. Samara (can't frick her)
2. Miranda if you can get past the horrible face modeling
3. Jack if you can get past the full body prison tats and dyke haircut
Tali doesn't count since she's a fricking space mask for 100% of the game and her attractiveness is only imagined, or you just like a pair of hips in a space suit. Shit dude, you had another Bioware franchise (Dragon Age) with fantasy babes to compare and you picked up ME, that's a 3 INT bait.
>Tali doesn't count
She does. 49% of initial attractiveness is body.
49 face 2 personality
>Tali doesn't count
She does. She has hour glass hips and a fat ass
Also, you're missing Aria, Ashley (ME1), Kasumi etc.
ashley is shit tier
bimbo ashley is even worse
homosexual
>ashley is shit tier
t. homo
Mass Effect 1 Ash is the perfect companion
All fricking ugly and not worth mentioning.
ME has 2 attractive females (both asari) and only one of them you could frick. Don't get me started on Andromeda... The West has fallen though.
>turian fricker
Terminal shit taste, your opinion is invalid
Lrn2read, I'm saying people want to frick that then whine about the noseless toad in BG3 like that's a step down
>can't read into biological aesthetics
You will never be white.
She's the perfect example of personality making up for looks
I wouldn't frick if she weren't a Nazi and a funny shitter pretending to be more hardcore than she really is
200 hours of frog sex
I don't know if it's unfortunate body structure or a poor choice in garments, but girls look really, really unattractive wearing "long" panties or bikinis or whatever. They should be like a perfect triangle.
She looks worse.
>200 hours of playtime
I'm not interested in the many ways in which you can get cucked
>600 spells
I'm not interested in Larian's take on the D&D spell list
>46 subclasses
I'm not interested in slightly different flavours of archetypes like 'wizard, but does illusion good'
>two million words of dialogue
I'm not interested in marvel tier quips and women who only know how to be sassy progressively aware
>170 hours of cinematics
I'm not interested in in-game rendered cutscenes of marvel tier quips and women who only know how to be sassy and progressively aware
Ugly characters, ugly game, Larian only knows how to make absolute slogfests which are further hindered by a lack of real time mode.
I knew that paid normie scum wouldn't respond to your hard facts
>Baldur's Gate 3
>looks like DivOS2
>plays like DivOS2
Nah frick that
Is there a mod to fix OPs characters face? I'll buy the game if so
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/301
>actually makes her frickable
damn too many cuties, we need bigger parties to bring the whole harem along
>you can't handle my strongest potions, adventurer
God she looks like shit still. Doesn't even look like an orc either
>Doesn't even look like an orc either
Good, she's not an orc
She's not an orc, she's a githyanki. Weird bat people from space or another plane of existence or something.
No, you should skip it. I wouldn't even click the threads anymore, total attention boycott.
>two million word of gay erotica
holy shit bros I CANT wait!
>No launch sale
>they add shitty digital goods to preorders instead
>People eat it up
wait just watched a video
our character is not voiced?
wtf? its 2023 you dumb c**ts
Uh what? My character talks all the time.
The shilling for this game baffling—utterly unremarkable "achievements," like a bog-standard number of races and sub-classes, are being passed off as paradigm shifting master strokes in game design. WTF is going on? Are these just low-information consumers or genuine marketers?
They are the cheapest marketing team Larian could afford, who think the peak of selling products is telling you how much filler is in it.
it took me a long time in life to realize that moral failure and stupidity go hand in hand, they are always mixed together. The archetype of the evil genius basically doesn't exist, all the intelligent people inevitably become more moral and all the stupid people inevitably become more immoral. BG3 fans are no doubt very stupid but I have little doubt that a lot of them also take pleasure in shilling for a company (=immorality)
There aren't that many CRPGs, and the amount of CRPGs with this kind of budget are even fewer. Not surprising that there's a lot of hype, DOS2 sold extremely well and BG is a much beloved franchise even if many of its fans haven't played it. The obsession with shills on Ganker is ridiculous in all honesty.
That hype is completely unfounded though. As mentioned above, PoE2 (a Kickstarter game) LAUNCHED with more races, sub-races, classes, sub-classes, and multi-classes than what BG3 is planning. The flat denial of these realities could only be the expression of either low-information consumerism or genuine, cynical shilling.
poe2 was low quality trash thought while bg3 is triple A
Triple A despite launching with less essential content? Intriguing
>less
quality over quantity, go ahead and go play some text adventure rpg with 2500 sub classes and 75 000 races
The defining quality of AAA is quality and quantity, which BG3 has evidently no achieved, being beaten out on both fronts by kickstarter games
More like a triple A slogfest.
Eh, all of these stats are literally hours old. They aren't the source of the hype. This latest wave of "shilling" is just in response to the game being released an entire month early.
Plus these fricking cretins didn;t play PoE2, nobody did. Unfortunately, Pillars 2 and its tight 45 hour playtime with interesting mechanics and a compelling and contained story sold like piss and DOS2, with its tremendous length and late game bloat and fully CG characters (no portraits), was every streamers favourite game, made Larian a huge studio, secured them the BG3 rights, and drew an audience who is only familiar with that kind of CRPG and is happy with it.
But to call them shills is ridiculous.
They're low-information consumers, in sum
hm okay I'll try PoE2 then. I hated that resting requires resting supplies and apparently that isnt the case anymore for PoE2
I'm playing it now and it's far more interesting than anything Larian has put out. Definitely less mass-appeal though
Any CRPG with protraits instead of more detailed 3D models is gonna have that cieling. It's just too much of a departure from what even the average RPG gamer is expecting. Wrath is this huge hit game but it just recently passed the 1 million sold mark. For reference, The Outer Worlds sold 4 million copies by 2021. Just looking at those stats tells me that we're never getting PoE 3 out of Obsidian.
Spot-on. cRPGs in the traditional style will be left to super-indie developers like Iron Tower. We can only hope that guys like this can carve out a sustainable niche for themselves
well yeah POE2 was such a huge flop it forced Obsidian to sell to Microsoft because it was dogshit
>That hype is completely unfounded though
or people just...played the EA and liked it
Low-information consumers unaware of greener pastures
Oh? Feel free to educate us.
see this kind anon's comment
>Pillars 2
>compelling story that falls apart midway through
>make sure you love the gay fish though
>oi make sure ya 'av a giggle with the meme pirates
>best girl was never made a proper companion
Yes, all bad, but still more interesting than Larianslop
CRPGs are even now way too niche and infrequent that most people interested in BG3 have probably played the lion's share of the "modern" revival CRPGs, especially on Ganker. More classes does not make POE2 (or Pathfinder) the better game by default.
CRPGs are are niche but even it isn't monolithic. Within it are the sub-niches of those who prefer the old Infinity Engine model, and the far larger sub-niche of those who prefer the new Larian model
I'll allow that most people probably haven't played the old Infinity Engine games nowadays (or at least only played BG1&2), but there's probably a huge overlap in people interested in BG3 that have played at least one POE and/or Pathfinder game
I don't know about that. I think the genre is undergoing a genuine bifurcation between the old and the new. The additional of many casual DnD and Critical Role fans to the Larian bandwagon with BG3 will only further this divide
BG3 is obviously the most "mass appeal" revival CRPG to date, but it still has more in common with the Infinity Engine games than say, Dragon Age
Pathfinder class breadth goes beyond enticing. At some point you're no longer excited about RP variety and just being inundated with data. You're basically trying to please an entirely different player than the guy that wants Hexblades in.
>PoE2
Anon, I don't know if you noticed but a lot of people didn't like that game thanks to RTWP alone and it was pretty much only the nerdiest of autists that got any large amount of enjoyment out of it. That game is a perfect example of "quantity over quality".
I'm not saying that BG3 will be any better, but that whenever we have a CRPG thread on Ganker it always devolves into shitflinging over which game is less niche, which one is more "woke" and which of them that has the most/least amount of filler content
PoE2 is just not what "modern audiences" want anymore. For better or for worse (but mainly for worse) Larian is the future
>The obsession with shills on Ganker is ridiculous in all honesty.
Most of the people left on Ganker are extraordinarily low IQ and basically sit on Ganker all day every day and so have no idea how anything works in real life. They seriously believe that companies spend their marketing budget on a dying website for unemployed pirates where the users regularly brag to each other about how "neet" they are, with zero ability to highlight their own posts, when things like reddit or twitter are there with 100x the audience and ready-made shill tools like a vote system.
I think they need to fool themselves into thinking Ganker is still this tastemaker secret club and not a refugee camp for twelve year old banned redditors so they can justify the amount of time they waste here. Ganker can't even sell a banner ad, moot sold it for so little he had to keep a day job right after, yet its such a valuable ad platform that every third post is a "shill". It's ridiculous, but dumb frick fat slobs will believe anything if they see it in green enough times.
larian drones, bots or maybe AI, who know at this point? what difference does it make. All of this shilling made me dislike the game, i was looking for it.
Put BG3 in your filter, you won't. Your post is more bot-like than most.
come on shill/bot change the IP at least or the script, you shound all the same, now have a nice day for shilling this trash
>I hate shills, I hate this game, I will never ever play it, you lost a customer!
>So why are you still here?
>I hate shills, I hate this game, I will never ever play it, you lost a customer!
Very organic. Why is a filter so difficult to use for your kind? Got a Zelda/ToTK filter right now, 8 threads on the catalog I don't have to see or get buttmad about.
A lot of people here don't actually like video games, but they do like getting buttmad on Ganker, or posting small variations of the same thing dozens of time.
>What do I want to play tonight? Zelda? Street Fighter? No, Ganker.
This board is more about youtubers than vidya.
Is there a quick rundown that exists for how BG3 and 5E plays compared to BG1&2 on 2E? I have never played actual DND, my only experience is with BG1&2, IWD, etc. If there's an honest to god shill in this thread I'd be happy to listen to how different it's going to be.
5E is functionally baby mode DnD. It plays like player characters are superheroes who always save the day, lethality doesn't exist, you could be clinically moronic and still make it through 5E content. It doubles down on a problem introduced in 3.5, that being there are too many fricking casters, and especially charisma casters.
Not a shill but I'll give you the differences.
Both 2E and 5E are shit. 3E is peak D&D kino.
2E with RTWP is a massive cluster frick where the entire game can be cheesed by making a death ball of summons.
5E here in BGIII is turn based, but allows for more environmental interactivity and turn based turn based is what actual D&D is, only the system takes care of all the dice rolling and PnP shit for you. So instead of one round of combat taking 15 minutes (Or 35 minutes when Cody feels the need to take a shit, frick you Cody) it only takes 2 minutes. Or back to 15 minutes when you approach the fricking druid grove because every goblin in a five mile radius has a bug up their butthole.
Both styles have their pros and cons and anyone who acts like one is vastly superior to the other and the only true way to play this kind of game is a homosexual.
It's not rtwp, it's turncringe.
Spells aren't quadratic and you never get to the maddening power of high level adnd or 3rd.
Games gonna lack difficulty or crunch, and it also does a lot of fricking annoying handwaves like your character somehow getting tadpoled and not immediately having their brain devoured and getting ceremorphosed into an illithid.
If you want a modern power fantasy rtwp isometric crpg then you pretty much have to go play wrath of the righteous.
>Games gonna lack difficulty or crunch
D&D games have always been at their most difficult in earlier levels unless you're moronic.
A well constructed level 20 Wizard or Cleric may as well be an army.
>getting tadpoled and not immediately having their brain devoured and getting ceremorphosed into an illithid.
This is the worst part, that shit is supposed to take hours at maximum. Is there even an explanation why this one isn't eating your brain faster?
> Is there even an explanation why this one isn't eating your brain faster?
Have you never read any book or watched any movie in your life that didn't spoonfeed you the entire plot within the first 3 minutes? I refuse to believe that you're so media illiterate that you think this is an argument against the writing. Is there even an explanation why Gandalf didn't just call upon the eagles and skip 3 movies?
>I refuse to believe that you're so media illiterate that you think this is an argument against the writing
You're being overly optimistic. You're talking to a generation of anons raised by tiktok on a tablet, they barely have enough attention span to fully read the posts they reply to. They could summarize the plot start to finish in the character creation screen and it wouldn't be enough.
>Is there even an explanation why Gandalf didn't just call upon the eagles and skip 3 movies?
Yes, they would have had to fight the Nazgul, the ring was only getting to Mount Doom via stealth. The very fact that the tadpole is taking longer to eat your brain should be questioned at the very least, but it isn't, that's the problem.
>but it isn't
It is, repeatedly and immediately. Jesus.
The explanation for why they didn't just take the eagles isn't IN THE MOVIES OR EVEN THE BOOKS, you fricking illiterate
It is immediately highlighted you smoothbrain-on-legs. Why has the brain parasite currently eating whatever's left of your grey matter not claimed your life yet? Truly puzzling, maybe they'll write a game about you some day
>that shit is supposed to take hours at maximum.
Since you haven't played the game, the characters themselves are wondering why they didn't turn already. Thats one of the main plot points, obviously they're not your regular tadpoles.
It's literally part of the story, if you ever actually played the game you'd know that there is some "mysterious" higher lifeform that is protecting you and your allies from having your brains turned insideout, you even get to talk to them after your 2nd or 3rd rest ingame and you can remove 3 or 4 of the tadpoles right at the first chapter of the game but that will change the story in some way according to the devs
went from bg to dragon age
this one is actually decent except for that bit of hair that looks like a lizard
Wheres my imoutofu in bg3
She's gone, Jim
Why do AIjeets have to pollute every thread on this board? Just frick off already.
99% of the posts here are so mindless and so repetitive that they're indistinguishable from AI. In fact, I'm pretty sure ChatGPT can generate more insightful comments. So what difference does it make? If they disabled captcha and let bots flood in unrestricted, the quality of conversation here would actually improve.
have a nice day, Ranjesh.
My 3 biggest problem with divinty were
>start of battle characters are too close to each other so i get fricked by aoe, and no having to reload just so i can postion them before starting every fricking battle is tedious as frick
>Cringe writing
>every battle the entire arena turns into fire.
Are these problems still there in bg3?
Yes, but also enemy turn times take even longer and it makes every encounter feel like the oil slimes battle.
Never had an issue with the first. Surface effects are so muted and rare now that I couldn't even tell you how to create most of them, other than "create water" spell and "alchemist's fire" item.
"Cringe writing" is a 4chins barnum word. Most people give it high praise, if you don't, then what do you want me to do? Look at a video, do you like it or not, I can't fricking like it for you. I'll never understand why you people ask shit like that.
>hey guys where 50 people think the story is good and 50 people think the story is bad, is the story any good?
>Most people give it high praise
most people also think Elden ring is a master piece even if is just Dark souls but open world
>Cringe writing" is a 4chins barnum word
yeah, shitty writing is okay right ? you're a bot, no point to argue further
loser, becasue your trash shilling made me dislike the game, i was looking for it, now have a nice day
>69 posters
yeah, can't say more.
>your trash shilling made me dislike the game, i was looking for it,
nice answer from Chat GPT , how much is Larian paying you per post, 0.01 cents?
come on anon, change the IP at least, the number of posters stayed the same, same gay
Nice bot reply. Why are you still here, b***h?
Why are you still here? You don't have to stay in threads about games you dislike. Why can't you use a filter? Huh?
>Never had an issue with the first
in divintiy or bg3? in divinity you're forced to reload to not have your entire team get caught by aoe.
the writing was cringe it's the same marvel wriitng that plagues modern Western entertainment
In BG3. I can recall a few reloads to reposition in DOS2, but even those were limited. The "shining lights" witch, maybe one or two others. The game wasn't very hard if you could just read and think like a person.
>zomg le heckin marvel
Yeah, I'd recommend not buying BG3 or clicking anymore BG3 threads, its definitely not for you and your highly refined tastes in quality writing.
Very early access a lot of shit left puddles just like Divinity but players didn't like it so Larian cut down on them a great deal which is better overall I think. I mean we had cantrips leaving fire and frost fields.
Stop liking drow women
I can fix her
So what do I need to do to have her in the party?
Just murder all the tieflings and druids? And probably Wyll and maybe Gale? Because I can do that.
I can fix her to stake
i will not
she doesn't need fixing
they're not normal tadpoles
I stopped liking them after Viconia. If I can't fix it with my wiener, I will divine smite it.
I don't think I will.
nyl is a fricking genius
right > left
I'll take both
your butthole will not survive
get to her in the goblin camp without killing all the gobbos then team up to kill the tieflings + druids
then you have celebratory sex with her while shadowheart gets gangbanged by goblins
she tries to kill you after but you can talk her out of it. then she says she'll see you later
>while shadowheart gets gangbanged by goblins
Wait really?
Because that's fricking hilarious if true.
>your butthole will not survive
If I die, I die.
Is the game really this sexual/implied sexual or are you being extremely hyperbolic and figurative here? Haven't played the early access, waiting for full release.
There are fully animated explicit sex scenes
There is sexual content. There is no goblin gang banging. If you anons setting up elaborate and bizarre cucking scenarios, you're reading somebody's erotic fanfic.
>If you anons setting up elaborate and bizarre cucking scenarios, you're reading somebody's erotic fanfic.
I'd like to add a caveat to this.
If the scenario involves Lae'zel fricking other men in camp if you don't, this actually does happen.
>men
lae'zel will frick anything
If you reject a romance with a character because you're pursuing another, that character may pursue it with someone else. That's a far cry from the 50GB notepad document some anons have saved of various cucking scenarios they've conjured out of the air so they can efficiently shitpost and jerk off all at once.
Larian is really committed to the design philosophy of your character just being an important person among other equally important people. So, no one is really for the player, they're just considering the player among other main characters.
Its because they want everything multiplayer (which is a mistake), so everything needs to be able to accommodate the idea of having 2-3 main characters in the story rather than one. Player 1 and player 2 need to be able to pursue separate companions.
sex
ain't no gotdamn way
I am curious as to whether or not these scenes survive release. Last I heard Larian took them out of early access because they were janky in the animations but I never saw if they put them back or mentioned them again after.
>he wasn't around for when the pedophilic halfling pre-vis BG3 forum thread was being clowned on
I feel like I missed something hilarious.
I think this is the thread, but this Niara chick posts so much it's hard to tell.
Looks like they took down the wireframe cg images of the scenes being described, so use your imagination I guess.
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=804310&page=1
https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=818655#Post818655
this dude unironically posted photos of a e-girl toon from BDO with a butterfly tattoo just above her mons?? unbelievable levels of autism. lmfaoo
>I did a study on how to sensitively do the choreography for intimate scenes with small characters, a little while back - the moderation staff felt it was necessary to remove the image references from the thread because I used a 3d modelling program that illustrate the essay as I went, but folks can message for the unedited copy of the paper if they're interested in having the visual references for reading along - it helps a lot. I'd very much recommend you taking a look at the thread though, if the concept of choreography with small characters is something that you recognise as a concern. The thread itself is here: Focused Examination: Intimate Choreography with Small-sized Characters. It focuses primarily on M/F intimate pairings and the difficulties presents, as well as how to overcome them - there was originally going to be a follow up thread that focused on the other surrounding intimate acts we might see, as well as f/f pairing choreography (I'm not qualified to write as confidently about m/m pairings, but I did consult some people on the matter; you can't just use your m/f pairing choreography for it, which Larian's earliest scenes neatly demonstrated...), but I can't do it without visual references, and I'm still waiting to hear back form Larian about what I can and cannot post on the matter, so it may never come to fruition.
AYYYOOOOO this dude is BUGGING the frick out. AHAHAHAHA
In his defense, the forum moderators there are arch troons that would put a redditor or a Ganker janny to shame.
It's a woman, actually.
She says that, while it's NOT a fetish thing for her, she is a very teensy tiny woman IRL, so she knows a thing or two about what child, uh I mean halfling fricking looks like.
>mfw seeing those posts
Did someone say wireframe CP?
https://archive.is/20220111001315/https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=804310&page=1
JESUS CHRIST WHAT IN THE FRICK
This is where we are now in RPGs?
This is what Bioware has brought on us?
Shame were on page 10 and the threads about to get autojannied.
Perhaps someone will have the presence of mind to link it in the next thread the shills rev up.
>ooh man, why would anyone hate us or our product?
The what now?
that is frickin' crazy, i definitely missed that but it's hilarious. Larian are unironically blazing trails for representation letting halflings frick on camera. i still remember they were killing that one dude a few months ago for dating an adult girl with a disorder that gave her a tiny kid-sized body. racemixing with a halfling in Faerun must be hell on your social standing. lmaoo
>racemixing with a halfling in Faerun must be hell on your social standing.
Or not at all, because I doubt any medieval fantasy setting (especially one with halflings) would realistically have modern day cucked feminism age laws that were invented 100 years ago.
I refuse to believe this is in a modern triple A game. What happened to fade to black?
did you not play divos2 where they had a male narrator extremely awkwardly narrate sex scenes? larian don't give a frick
>mom walks in
STINKY DROW PUSSY
i'm so excited this got pushed up. i wasn't super hyped for Starfield anyway, but i'm very much looking forward to BG3.
nyl is a fricking hero.
Source on drawing?
Drow women have white pussy hair.
Elves don't have pubic hair... do they? I don't feel like it would fit their aesthetic.
I tried the two DOS games specifically because I saw them recommended and praised here constantly. They were good. I wonder what changed?
dragon commander
dos 1 & 2
now BG3
SWEN I KNEEL
You forgot Divinity 2 and Divine Divinity.
>most attractive western female character design - a genderbent Jim Carrey Grinch
and yet
>5e
It was over before it began
Does Early Access progress carry over to full game?
No but you get three days headstart on the full game if you pre-order.
BG3 is not a CRPG. CRPGs have always and will always be realtime based with pause. If you want to play turn based games then play XCOM and leave this thread.
The only gay in BG3 is (you).
Is Paladin fun in 5E? Or should I go Fighter? I wanna do a Lawful Good human martial for my first runthrough of the game.
Yeah, 5E Paladin is probably the best martial class (and BG3 actually lets you fall if you want)
Haven't touched the game but I know enough about tabletop to say that if you can combine great weapon master feat with battlemaster fighter then you're all set, because you can just shove prone and magdump with action surge and precision attack.
Paladins in 5e fricking suck thematically because you don't even pick a god and you're just left posing epicurus at yourself.
Whence cometh divine smite?
Why call it divine at all?
Oath of Devotion Paladins are essentially old-school divine champion Paladins
>anon asks if something's fun
>responds with min/max homosexualry
Kinda' weird, anon.
>Paladins in 5e fricking suck thematically because you don't even pick a god
You're not a Cleric.
>Why call it divine at all?
Because you get your magic from the gods.
it's shit
stop coping shill
no hexblade no buy
people will add every race and subclass with mods
Hexblade shouldn't exist.
which way son of man?
why-not-both.jpg
Shadowheart/Minthara/Karlach harem.
I find it funny that you can make these two dyke out with each other by playing as one of them.
where are their clothes
gimme the most meta classes and party setup
Lolth-sworn Drow wild magic Sorceror for the half of Act 1 we have.
Beastmaster Ranger is broken they get a berserker barbarian as a pet
>level cap is 12
embarrassing
>every thread is going to be derailed by schizos who see shills everywhere and that one autist who hates everyone except bioware
very cool
Imagine what it's been like trying to talk about Cyberpunk here.
Mentally unwell autistic obsessives are always going to dominate conversation here. They can post for twenty hours straight, nobody sane can match it.
That's the modern Ganker for you. Why are you still here if you don't like it?
because sometimes all the schizos are asleep and we get to have a good thread
you're afeared of those? they'll look like little pups when farquaad shows up
No one's been able to articulate to me how a game that isn't about the baalspawn can possibly be Baldur's Gate 3.
Seems like yet another show/film/game taking the name of some old established fan base just for the sake of having the name.
Don't care, I didn't play BG1-2
> a game that isn't about the baalspawn can possibly be Baldur's Gate 3.
Why did they name it after a city and not Baalspawn 1-2-3? By the way, Bhaal the Lord of Murder is spelled with an 'h'. Baal is the Prime Evil from Diablo.
Must have had SG1 on my mind to not catch it.
I don't think that's wrong in and of itself.
Your 2 argues against your other points. The only reason to call it Baldur's Gate 3 is to invoke 1 and 2, and that only matters to that core group of obese men you're talking about.
There's any number of Faerunian things you could invoke for the title. The only reason to specifically invoke Baldur's Gate is to scream MEMBER BIOWARE.
Why was 2 called Baldur's Gate? The setting was nowhere near the city unlike the first.
It's a brand that people recognize, at least 3 is focused on the city again as it should be.
>Why was 2 called Baldur's Gate?
Gonna go out on a limb and say that its because its one of the most direct narrative continuations in all of gaming. Which 3 clearly isn't.
I think you need to work on your composition more than I need to work on my comprhension and besides, there is no "Baldur's Gate = generic dnd game" cohort. There's only the people who at some level remember who/what the first two games are about.
>there is no "Baldur's Gate = generic dnd game" cohort. There's only the people who at some level remember who/what the first two games are about.
If you were smarter, you'd realize that just repeating the same unfounded thing over and over again doesn't make it so.
If you were ironically more self aware you'd realize contradiction in lieu of refutation was exactly what you opened with.
But you obviously struggle with logic when you refute your own points between sentences so it's probably pointless to even point it out to you.
>contradiction
Yeah, there isn't one. You're just bad at reading, and when told this, instead of rereading and just saying "oh, got it wrong, whoops!" you'll continue to insist there's a contradiction without ever being able to elaborate on what it is. Take your estrogen and keeping b***hing and crying that Bhaalspawn aren't in the game despite every hamfisted telegraph possible just in early access.
Again it's ironic you're off on a tangent telling me I didn't understand when you don't even understand what I called a contradiction.
You're tilting at windmills telling me to take my L but I'm just standing here watching a dumbass bringing his lance to bear on an inanimate fricking object, 20 feet to the left all by myself.
>instead of rereading and just saying "oh, got it wrong, whoops!" you'll continue to insist there's a contradiction without ever being able to elaborate on what it is
"instead of rereading and just saying "oh, got it wrong, whoops!" you'll continue to insist there's a contradiction without ever being able to elaborate on what it is"
If we're just copypasting ourselves then you should check out
>If you were ironically more self aware you'd realize contradiction in lieu of refutation was exactly what you opened with.
Since you clearly didn't grasp the meaning because
is a tangent. A non sequitur. Not relevant to what I said.
Get your girlfriend or someone to read it for you maybe they can point out your misunderstanding.
>instead of rereading and just saying "oh, got it wrong, whoops!" you'll continue to insist there's a contradiction without ever being able to elaborate on what it is
It's tied to BG1+2 whether you like it or not. You could argue that connection is forced, but it's there. BG2 even had that unfinished illithid plot right in the middle of the city.
>Your 2 argues against your other points.
Not at all, work on reading comprehension. There is no disagreement between any one of those points. And no, the group of obese estrogen poppers you see here crying into their man breasts about RTWP and le hecking Bhaalspawn aren't the sum total of the people who know what Baldur's Gate is. I played the originals for example, and think most of you are extremely goofy homosexuals with extremely goofy made up complaints.
This game isn't for old school Baldur's Gate fans
>how a game that isn't about the baalspawn can possibly be Baldur's Gate 3
1) By taking place in and around the city of Baldur's Gate
2) Because the name "Baldur's Gate" means "DnD video game", and only means "Bhaalspawn game" to a core group of obese men taking a lot of estrogen and posting here too much
3) The story is very obviously about Bhaalspawn and you can see it coming from ten miles away.
>>170 hours of cinematics
larian shills unironically think this is a good thing lmao
i've never played DnD so is level 12 alot? like you still get some super spells?
It's low level. A high level campaign in a video game is probably not going past 16. Everyone basically agrees that once you go beyond 16 you can't even communicate the scale of abilities in this medium.
The other 5E adaption launched with 12 levels as well. It's normal.
Solasta latest DLC makes the cap 16 actually.
>beyond 16 you can't even communicate the scale of abilities in this medium.
Not true. The old infinity engine games conveyed the powers of a high level caster extremely well.
different systems, 5E scales terribly past a certain point
How so? BG2 literally let you stop time and clone yourself in combat
well you see, BG2 is on 2nd edition and BG3 is on a homebrewed version of 5th edition, and there is a large mechanical difference between those two editions
That doesn't answer my question. The spellcasting is MORE powerful in BG2 and the combat scales just fine.
You argue that the "balance falls apart" but you won't explain WHY.
Because 5E literally isn't designed to go past level 12-15.
BG2 is the second part of a story. In BG2 you start at which lvl can somebody remind me? Also BG2 is AD&D.
>In BG2 you start at which lvl
7
NTA
The guidelines for encounter building written for dms in 5e are total shit. A player can punch far far above their recommended weight class because it's nu dnd where you're meant to win win win.
This is mostly the fault of a design paradigm called bounded accuracy, where modifiers on the d20 are meant to be kept small.
Players inevitably break out of bounded accuracy because of poor game design.
Something no one wiill acknowledge about 5e is that feats are an optional rule, but are an optional rule everyone uses because your alternative is to just improve your ability scores every x levels.
When you start stacking up feats with class features and magic items (all imbalanced or power creeped to sell books to players), player power rapidly advances past where a dm can confidently park a monster in front of you, because the players will either steamroll it, or you've had to go so far above the recommendations for encounters that you've made an unwinnable encounter and they all die.
In theory, none of this matters in a crpg because the encounters can be fine tuned and the players path through the game is extremely deterministic. But why would larian try their hand at 5e encounter building in the zone where the game breaks down for even serious 5e tabletop dms?
>The guidelines for encounter building written for dms in 5e are total shit.
Not least because their create-a-monster table is fricked and only increases CR in line with HP bloat
They should just do what Owlcat does and give every enemy triple their tabletop stats and a gorillion buffs
Not particularly needed to beat the game and ToB is full-on pants on head moronic as far as power progression curve goes
>brings up a 2000 game when talking about a 2014 system
>Improved Alacrity
>ZA WARUDO
>Sequencer (Fireball X3)
>Fireball
>Fireball
>Fireball
>Web
>Incendiary Cloud
>Cloudkill
>walk away before time stop wears off
Yep, it's gaming time.
Level 12 is about when 5E starts falling apart mechanically
At level 7 you can send people to the shadow realm, teleport 500 feet, can ask a god about anything that's happening in the next week, can turn invisible and attack without dropping it and transform your friend into a dinosaur.
At level 9 you can give an animal sapience, charm someone for a month unless they kill themselves, heal your entire party at once, permanently alter 10 minutes of someone's recent memory, get full party telepathy, telekinesis, scry across the plane and create an indestructible wall.
At level 11 you can disintegrate a motherfricker, earthbend, summon an angel or demon to assist you, teleport across the plane and give someone 120 feet of truesight.
People in the thread are calling this "low."
yeah but the number isn't the maximum number so you're still weak
one of the big issues with this is that people like to multiclass. a guy who took 6 levels of fighter and 6 levels of wizard isn't gonna have enough time to get any of their good shit, certainly not enough to make it worth bothering with instead of going Eldritch Knight or Bladesinger. with 20 levels to work with you have a bit more room to do something creative.
>one of the big issues with this is that people like to multiclass
Well, actually that's not an issue because multiclassing is for homosexuals.
>with 20 levels to work with you have a bit more room to do something
You say this, but people don't actually play to level 20 anyway. Most campaigns end somewhere between 8 and 12 and official adventure modules almost never go beyond 15.
>creative
That min/max build you saw online is not "creative."
5E doesn't really lend itself to multiclassing, for better or for worse. At best you'll have some dips between synergistic classes but nothing extreme like Pathfinder martials.
And as people have already said multiple times, campaigns that actually go to 20 are vanishingly rare, and any "builds" you saw online that go that far are effectively theorycrafting
You
are
being
too
obvious.
At least try to fit in, shill.
I'm not a shill, I'm not even buying the game because of the troon shit.
If you post on Ganker, you're a shill. Every marketing agency in the world is after the lucrative unemployed pirate market.
Right, but is it finished?
>all that
>can't even play as a goblin or have one in your party
>or any other monster races for that matter
Don't give me that animation or voicework bullshit excuse either, if they're in the game as enemies they should be able to be party members.
I'm sure they'll add more races, but I do find it strange they kept it so close to PHB. They didn't even add Githzerai, Ghostwise Halflings or most Tiefling variants. And I didn't expect them to add Variant Human, but I thought they'd do something more original by adding individual Human subraces, since the Realms actually have different ethnic groups. I also thought they'd try to get Goliath in, because Critical Role. But nope.
I'm sure they want to save stuff for later, but there's a ton of races in D&D, even if you stick to FR.
>Variant Human
How to get cancelled in 5 seconds
>170 hours of cinematics
cut it out, dont care
>200 hours of NTRPG playtime
>600 charm spells only male NPCs can learn
>46 subclasses each with their own specific cuckolding scenes
>two million words of cuckold dialgoue
>170 hours of cinematic netorare
Anybody defending the level 12 cap is a fricking shill. You will not fricking convince me that having less spells, less class features and less progression is a good thing. Yeah I am so fricking happy I can only play half a class.
Then don't play it? Not a single person is trying to shill that level cap as a good thing like DUDE YOU CAN EARN 11 LEVELS IN THIS GAME!! Frick off with your strawman
>what are mods
>what is an expansion
didn't BG1 only go to like LV10, and then BG2 took you to 20+? i just assumed they'd release a sequel expansion in a year that takes us to Level 20.
No one's calling it a good thing. The most that can be said in its defense is that 5E fricking sucks after 12-15, and that BG1 only went up to 8(ish).
You're only screaming about going up to level 20 because you've been playing WOTR on a loop for the past two years and forgot lower-level campaigns can exist too
but is bg3 marvelshit like their other games?
the EA is a lot less goofy than divos2 was
isn't he the bioware autist?
i love being able to murder the party members i don't want. feels good
gay vampire and wyll have died every time i've played EA so far and i don't plan on changing that for release
Farquaad is the gay Hispanic obsessed with canon
>isn't he the bioware autist?
no, he's a homosexual who spams whole threads of his gay characters having sex
I'm going to murder Wyll and Gale as soon as possible. I will only allow women and my gay vampire friend in the party.
Astarion is pretty based honestly.
He won me over when he approved and laughed at me interrupting Ogre sex.
>me interrupting Ogre sex.
homosexual
I couldn't resist opening the barn door.
I had to see.
i really like CRPG games but everything i have read here about this game makes it look like it’s gonna be the perfect combination of Prozac brained arrogant nihilism and shallow childish over sexualisation that i really really hate. Maybe i’ll get on sale someday.
>and shallow childish over sexualisation
Anon at least 80% of that is just shit anons make up.
The equivalent of going into a Zelda thread and assuming let gets fricked in the ass by Ganondorf while Zelda and Riju are gang banged by Bokoblins in the background just because a few Anons all agree the cuckold sissification scenario they've concocted is hot.
and the other 20%?
see it’s not really the same because zelda doesn’t have sex in it at all, and i know this because it’s zelda. With this game, where as posted in screenshots in this very thread they are considering full sex scenes it’s far more of a sliding scale.
people have already talked about how there are multiple poly amorous and homosexual characters who by nature of their sexuality and our current cultural zeitgeist are going to be undoubtably vocal about their life choices. So don’t throw that aspect of the impression i am getting out of hand completely.
Every romance is playersexual so it's unlikely we'll get a Dorian-tier "my dad hates me because I'm gay :(" bit
>200 hours of playtime
>12 lvl cap
>can reach 3 lvl in one hour (this is what I did in back 2021 before uninstalling)
Yeah, sure thing.
I guess devs simply multiplied the real playtime (of about 5 hours) by all the class-race-gender combinations they have.
Because of course everyone will be completing the same five hours of beautiful and inspired larian-written content again and again, right?
Or leveling just slows way the frick down after like level 4-5 and power scaling comes primarily from magic items like in the tabletop
You never played tabletop.
I am literally in the middle of a Curse of Strahd campaign right now
>5th edition premade shitventure for braindead normalgays that cannot muster enough creativity for a proper game
Lol.
You never played tabletop.
we usually play other systems but one of the players wanted to try running something for the first time so we picked babby's first adventure
Then explain your statement, how exactly is your dm justifying the idea of slowing down the leveling?
Because its entirely up to him (and you) to decide how you are going to scale, whether it be through leveling, items, achieved personal goals, wealth or social stuff.
If you go purely off XP (like a video game would), leveling does indeed slow down quite a bit in 5E after level like...4, I think? Which is why no DM ever goes off XP and just does milestone leveling. But 5E is absolutely built around magic items providing the majority of a PC's power over level ups, and Larian definitely leans into that.
It's the opposite actually. Magic items are optional.
Player characters are intended to derive most of their strength from levels as that's what challenge rating is calculated against.
You can absolutely frick a game by giving a paladin a magic sword.
CR calculation is fricked anyway. And pretending magic items are optional is like pretending feats are optional. Yeah, you're technically correct but no one actually leaves these things out of games because they make a shitty, boring system slightly less boring and shitty.
So, a skill issue of your dm.
>Which is why no DM ever goes off XP
Good dms simply don't use default enemy stats(xp rewards included) for encounters they design.
But good dms probably don't play braindead systems like 5e at all, lol.
What you inevitably having to do in 5e is making puzzle encounters where players fight endless waves of zombies (they actually can fight infinite zombies) until they solve a rubiks cube.
Or the big bad is invincible until you solve the riddle to lower the invincibility spell.
If there's any of this shit in bg3 it's a fair indicator that the larian crew ran into the constraints of 5e like a brick wall.
All troony garbage
>170 hours of cinematics
That's not a plus.
I don't know what the frick am gonna play, but i detest Gale so perhaps a wizard.
>>600 spells
There isn't 600 spells in 5e, let alone the PHB. This "600" is either a typo or it's counting every option that exists within a spell as its own spell (although, even then, I find it hard to believe).
>all that
>zero hype
Oh yeah, they won alright.
Kojima laughing his sweet and sour ass off
Kojima's cinematics are just a video playing over the screen. BG3 cinemtics are interactive dialogue where you can even switch between party members for different actions outside of the dialogue itself. I like both Death Stranding and Baldur's Gate 3 but saying that both games have cinematics does not feel right to me since their versions of cinematics are so different.
>200 hours playtime
>170 hours cut scenes
>30 hours of gameplay
movieslop
forced story
I swear, you people are fricking broken. You have been poisoned by ugliness worship from twitter if you actually see OP pic as a sex object. It's Dimitrescu all over again.
>larian "humor" and "writing"
Given that Divinity was literally, actually unplayable are hilariously had player dialogue written as if you were an actual NPC (third person narration), I'm pretty concerned about BG3. Larian is terrible at anything aside from gimmicky mechanics.
DOS1 was too quippy, 2 was a lot better already
Both Original Sin games are better than OG BG.
If you're a larian cückold your opinion doesn't matter
What are people on about when they say this? DOS1 was goofy, but no more than, say, Fable.
2's writing was largely unimpressive, but I never cringed.
Looks pretty good
Not Baldur's Gate, though.
>But here's Jaheira!
>And look, we even brought back Minsc!! It's really him, look!
have a nice day, morons.
Can you frick Jaheira?
no, she's just a videogame character
Baldur's Gate was always the goofy casual of the old school. The Star Wars of Black Isle games. Larian is a perfect match for it.
Oh my science, are you telling me I have to skip through 2 millions words of dialogue?
Video games are not movies. The less cinematics/dialogues/cutscenes etc, the better.
>Larian won
What did they win? A free buffet?
except they went woke so now people won't buy their game
anyone shilling 12 level cap is below 6'0.
>Y-Y-YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE 6 FEET TALL
>H-H-H-HUMANS NEVER REACH THAT HIGH ITS DEMIGOD TIER
lmao this is how you manlets sound like
>y-you can't balance a dnd game around high level combat, bro
*ignores Baldurs Gate 2, Pathfinder Kingmaker, Pathfinder WOTR, Planetscape Torment, Icewind Dale 1 and 2, Temple of Elemental evil*
None of those are balanced, and only one of them is good.
>None of those are balanced,
you don't play rpgs for balance
>only one of them is good.
all of them are good
>only one of them is good
based Planet Escape enjoyer
>H-H-H-HUMANS NEVER REACH THAT HIGH ITS DEMIGOD TIER
Did 5e squash levels or something?
I remember all of the obvious self inserts like Elminster being lvl 30+ back in the day.
Also nwn 1 and 2
5E, on a mechanical level, stops working around levels 12-15. You have to homebrew enemies extensively to make actually challenging encounters since the RAW enemies (which are incredibly anemic at that tier to begin with) can't even hope to match up to PCs above those levels. There are no official adventure paths that go above level 15.
For whatever reason, the system is simply not designed to go that high, despite rules existing for those levels.
>Did 5e squash levels or something?
Yeah, probably, it only goes up to 20 I think?
12-15 is already pretty legendary tier
Non-casters don't get to be demigods in 5e though
>Wizard at high level: manipulating reality itself and teleporting all over the place for fun
>Champion at high level: waagh me strong and jump good
Are all the females fully modelled?
Yes, there are datamined veganas with various sliders. Theres a mod to show it, but you need nsfw clothing. Underwear can't be removed, so it'll be sex scene only until sex mods roll in
tradwife Lae'zel
Heresy.
Boner lost
>tradwife
>literally and unironically will only accept an open relationship with (you)
>will cück you
>shes ugly as frick, a mutt
waifu gays deserve a bullet, have no tastes, now kys
la creatura
is it possible to kill the demons on the ship?
It's very difficult, but I managed only once. By utilizing the environmental traps and maintaining my distance from them. First I waited until the mindflayer dies by the commander. Once that happens he should be weak enough to finish him off. After he's dead pick up the ever burn blade and move to the front. Once the other cambions enter shoot the purple vats, it will leave a flammable substance in which you can shoot down bulbs which will explode.
Do they drop anything good? We just wanted the flaming sword so that's what we took
Not that I remember just some extra gold pieces. Extra experience points of course, though I don't remember the amount of either, sorry to say. I suspect that there will be more in terms of a reward when it fully releases. Don't quote me on that, it's just an assumption.
>>200 hours of playtime
Like DOS 2, where 99% of playtime was a slog?
will beta progress apply to full release? in which case i can start playing now
If you have early access now you should be automatically upgraded to the digital deluxe edition at no extra cost. That will enable you to playthrough all of act 1 on July 31st. By then your progress from that save state should be transferable once the game fully launches on August 3rd.
TOTAL SHILLBlack person DEATH
What is the most fun class in DOS2 to play? Going to play it before BG3 comes out.
Fighterman with a staff
water/air electro goon
caster, either hydro/aero combo or fire/geo combo. anything that makes use of surfaces, clouds, rain etc. that's the coolest part of the combat
>600 spells
and zero high level spells
enjoy casting your bless for the 10000th time, so exciting
my most anticipated game of 2023
can't wait
>my most anticipated game of 2023
>can't wait
Sex with Shadowheart
Sex with Lae'zel
Sex with Karlach
Sex with Minthara
>Sex with Shadowheart
>Sex with Lae'zel
>Sex with Karlach
>Sex with Minthara
I see that the mentally ill local schizo is back
>Youre a schizo! Stop it! Stop derailing my beautiful thread I get paid by post and cant afford rent right now okay!?
>redditjack
GOTY easily
You think so? Don't get me wrong, it definitely feels like it is quite ambitious and this is probably the only game I'm looking forward to this year. But when it comes to market appeal in regards to rpgs, crpgs aren't necessarily niche per se. They just aren't played as much compared to more streamlined rpgs as far as I can tell.
Well starfield is gonna be a tough competitor but that only because everyone is cooming for bethesda jank for some reason. Only time will tell.
I do not genuinely understand what makes some schizos flock to these threads
>GOTY easily
I wasn't agreeing with them.
if everyone filtered out 'shill' and 'larian' we could probably have a decent conversation about this game at some point
How does one computer illiterate do that
You do not want to have a conversation.
BG3-Threads work all on the same principle, as soon as people start talking about criticism you try to derail it or spin it as a positive thing.
You just want to circlejerk about your subpar product.
>I genuinly do not understand why making the same thread over and over with aggressive viral marketing would make people hate me!
A real mystery for sure.
>170 hours of cinematics
this seems way too much? or am i understanding "cinematics" wrong? doesn't it mean cutscenes and other non-playable segments?
>two million words of dialogue
again.. too much? i don't understand boasting about these numbers, it should be quality over quantity. larian games tend to have convoluted dialogue where they could convey the same thing with half the words.
>canadians are asleep
>screencapgay is mysteriously absent