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The frick is ilca?
ILCA is a small support studio that works on a bunch of Bandai Namco/Square Enix projects
For whatever reason the Pokemon company decided to give them full reins on the Diamond and Pearl remakes, which (obviously) turned out to be fricking terrible
>give them full reins
As fricking if. Gamefreak was watching over it like a hawk and gave ILCA absolutely none of the creative freedom that in-house remakes got.
I don't think GF told them to make the game look and run like shit as a publisher mandate
>I don't think GF told them to make the game look like shit
On the contrary, since I don't know how else you'd interpret the concept art being pic related and ending up like what we got
>we'll never get pokemon games that look like this
Concept art and the actual product aren't the same thing anon. While ILCA had this art they never intended to make that a game.
you'd be right if ILCA didn't also make that one piece game, they absolutely had the capacity to make the concept art closer to the final game and were probably wanting to do that before gamefreak stepped in and told them to tone back the game so legends arceus and SV wouldn't be overshadowed by it
>you'd be right if ILCA didn't also make that one piece game
You mean the very basic one piece game that was underwhelming despite bamco watching them like a hawk?
>mistaking box art for a screenshot
moron
the screenshots look better than BDSP you dumb homosexual see
So, at what point in development did ICLA go from
>Let's fully reimagine what Sinnoh would be like as a truly living world using modern technology
to
>Let's lazily remake Pokemon DP 1-to-1 in 3D, to the point of making everyone an ugly bobblehead and make what little 3D the games originally did have into floor textures
Honest to fricking god, how do you imagine a world like the concept art and end up putting out a product like THIS
I'm not kidding about the floor texture thing, by the way.
For comparison.
The Pokemon Company is terminally moronic. Sexy chibis isn't worth turning a fricking raised platform into a floor texture.
>Sexy chibis
ANON
TPCi probably said "alright, you've got 6 months" once pre-production ended.
I remember posting this when the game finally leaked
oh my god
>So, at what point in development did ICLA go from
>>Let's fully reimagine what Sinnoh would be like as a truly living world using modern technology
>to
>>Let's lazily remake Pokemon DP 1-to-1 in 3D, to the point of making everyone an ugly bobblehead and make what little 3D the games originally did have into floor textures
They didn't. Because they never intended to reimagine sinnoh, that's something you made up in your head.
I don't know or understand why morons are so obsessed with wanting to regress pokemon into some photo realistic garbage art style. The models should never progress beyond P3/P4 levels of chibification. I man look at how trash the modern Final Fantasy games look. It's embarassing outside of the phone game for VII they released.
>I don't know or understand why morons are so obsessed with wanting to regress pokemon into some photo realistic garbage art style.
are these morons in the room with us right now?
It's because they think the endgame of graphics is realism when the endgame of graphics is literally making something that can't exist.
Sword and Shield was a bad pokemon game. But that was the sweet spot for pokemon graphics.
Pokemon looks shit either way whether it's Chibi's or the god awful 3d models in SV.
literally no one wants photorealistic graphix for pokemon they just want shit that isnt 4 gens behind that ALSO run like shit
>if you want good looking games you must be only after hyper realistic slop
The meme tree scoffs at you.
They literally made a One Piece game exactly like this.
yeah and the one piece game was still garbage, so whats your point?
If the choice was between ugly garbage and good-looking garbage, I'd really have preferred the latter.
Nobody was commenting on the game's quality, moron.
>nobody was commenting on the game's quality
>anon was explicitly commenting on the game's graphic quality.....which is also ugly but not in a chibi artstyle so it makes anon's wiener rockhard
No, no they didn't. Everyone always looks at this
and thinks "wow ilca must be a good dev, they just couldn't work to their full potential on pokemon!" but this isn't gameplay, hell it's not even possible to get a shot like that in the actual game.
In reality it's just a mediocre turn based jrpg that looks like shit.
still looks better than bdsp anon, like insanely better
No, no it doesn't. In fact they have many of the same problems like not actually hitting the opponent.
not actually hitting the opponent has nothing to do with ILCA when its all standardized animations ported directly from the mainlines
Meaning that Ilca purposely did it for One Piece.
Also that's not how it works, they can import the animations but they could have had the pokemon get closer when they attacked.
You're looking for reasons to say Ilca are good devs but you're only making them look worse.
where? The game just reuses locations from One Piece itself made exactly to the same basic scale as shit like the Warrior games with a generic island serving as the hub. They aren't this company you seem to think they are.
>what it could be if they actually put to use any of their billions of dollars of revenue
>versus what the games actually fricking are
Thank you anon, I now have a solid image to explain why pokemon frustrates me these days
they see me rollin'
why is it so hard for game freak to make a game like this? honestly the combat in the games is super easy because of bad AI and badly designed enemies teams but the combat mechanics are fine so why don't they at least put effort into making the environment immersive. I'm not asking for GTA realism but I want pokemon to feel alive in a pokemon game
>why is it so hard for game freak to make a game like this?
They don't have the manpower, skills or budget to achieve that. You have to realize Pokemon is owned by GF, TPC, and Nintendo, and there's no way the last two would compromise the ridiculous amount of revenue they generate just to create quality products.
>They don't have the manpower, skills or budget to achieve that
they absolutely have the budget. even if they don't retain all the money from these games they sell 20 million of them + some millions on DLC yearly. they absolutely could hire more people but they themselves stated they like to work with small teams
>and there's no way the last two would compromise the ridiculous amount of revenue they generate just to create quality products.
I call bullshit on that. I don't know about TPC but nintendo usually allows games to have bigger dev cycles if needed. as much as people dunk on the latest zelda they delayed the game a year from their expected launch date to polish the game for it to have less bugs. prime 4 is also another example, when they saw it wasn't looking good they started from scratch
They've never had any financial incentive to change and never will.
At this point they know the fanbase will eat up any slop they put on the table, so why even try.
>This concept art is quite ambitious...
>Hold on a second, don't people like retro? How about we take short cuts by making a 1:1 remake with the premise of "faithfulness" to the originals. People are idiots, they'll eat it up
And so they did.
This is just depressing to look at, god just give Pokemon to someone else at this point, because I doubt Game Freak can get their shit together and ILCA is well....ILCA.
It says right in the artbook
>These images were drawn to share the common understanding of the settings’ mood, climate, and luminosity among the development team.
It was never intended to look like this. It's just concept art and concept art is cheap. Making a game is not.
Masuda didn't barge in, yell "WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU DOING?! MAKING A GOOD LOOKING GAME?! OVER MY DEAD BODY!" and destroy all assets.
Never. Read what I wrote above.
The contract since day 1 was "quick, shitty chibi remake".
ILCA wasn't making more than what Game Freak paid them for.
Developers can make different scope games.
Why isn't Wario Ware like Tears of the Kingdom? Nintendo made both after all
Pokemon fans will remove their own ribs if it means sucking wiener better.
>a japanese cartoon about a perverted little kid got a better game than Pokemon
Amazing
One is Shin chan, the other is only Pokemon.
>rights to shinchan are owned by super autismo author and a publisher he vetted personally
>pokemon owned by gamefreak
there's the difference
GameFreak saw this and knew they would get overshadowed at their own game.
JUST
these styles are just ripped from the current greats of pixel art. wanella, 1041uuu, 8pxl, etc
Concept art looking much better than the final product is nothing new, stuff gets changed or cut as a part of development limitations, but BDSP probably being planned as a 1:1 remake from the get-go such that none of this art would've actually had any impact on it's development makes this feel like an insult to concept art.
No that’s just standard operating procedure for GF
>I don't think GF told them to make the game look and run like shit as a publisher mandate
Why not? It's Gamefreak's MO. Of course they want their releases to be consistent.
>Gamefreak was watching over it like a hawk
On the contrary, GF just let them do whatever they wanted while they worked on SV and Arceus. Very little supervision was actually given to ILCA during development.
>For whatever reason the Pokemon company decided to give them full reins on the Diamond and Pearl remakes, which (obviously) turned out to be fricking terrible
quite the opposite. the games only came out that way because of GF supervising it. it was still going to be buggy probably but not that chibi shit
>turned out to be fricking terrible
Those remakes were the best thing to happen to the pokemon fandom tho. Because its unreal engine slop. People are able to mod the game and are working on tools for romhacking. Thus 3D romhacks are right around the corner. All because the game was jank garbage slop created in a few months by a Japanese company that oursourced everything to jeets then compiling the game in Japan. Because pokemon fans and modern nintendo fans love eating shit it sold over 10m copies even tho it was complete fricking garbage. And the art was horrific.
>But le cute chibi looked like the DS sprites
>ITs gen 4 its garbage no one cares anyways
>Unreal engine is amazing
Once again that game was the best thing to happen to the fandom fricking romhacks for the switch. Fully 3D pokemon games in the future all because of jeets greed and ignorance on TPC part. Its the best thing to happen to the fandom. Just wait till pokemmo gets moved to the switch and adds in even more shit inclluding gen 6+. While TPC makes another terrible game in 8-14 months dev time on a team of less than 100. With another god awful stupid gimmick japanese children love hope you enjoy pokemon fusions including megas with their trainer so now you can fight with your pokemon for real!
>Unreal engine
it's made on unity morono
brainfart
unreal unity slop samething really one pretends its much prettier while melting your graphics card due to amazing programing sirs the best in the world sirs yes sirs nothing beats indian programing sirs
>schizo tantrum
why spend time "fixing" a turd, you might as well have created a gen 4 remake in unreal from scratch. no amount of lazy model imports is going to make that game good
every pokemon game has concept art like this, you fricking morons
>limited dex
>shitty story
>forced double battles
>recycled models
>b-b-but muh "good" animations
>which are also mainly recycled and slow as shit fricking garbage to the point where nobody goes through a full game without turning them off
double battles
double battles are the objectively superior format you complete mong
>It was ILCA's fault I swear! Shit Freak dindu nuffin!
PLEASE
U N D E R S T A N D
>Shit Freak dindu nuffin!
Yes exactly, they do as close to nothing as is possible to get away with at all times.
>turned out to be fricking terrible
sales don't lie, pokegays buy it
shut the frick up about sales you schizo hebrew
yes it sold well, you could sell Pokémon branded turds and nostaligagay consoomers will still buy it, it doesn't change the fact that it was garbage
>you could sell Pokémon branded turds and nostaligagay consoomers will still buy it,
That's not what happened to most other spinoffs like Pokken, PMD, Stadium, etc
I bought pokken, twice
>you could sell Pokémon branded turds and nostaligagay consoomers will still buy it
Has never been the case
People only want to play Gamefreak's Pokemon games no matter how hard PMDgays try to say otherwise
It’s an almost 1:1 remake of DP to the point where it has bugs from the originals in it. Sinnoh was just a bad region.
Sinnoh as a region is PEAK, the games are just not amazing. Platinum fixed a lot of the base issues but base DP are a mess and for some reason they direct sequel'd those games instead of platinum.
While shinnoh does suck, platinum did a lot to make it suck less. BDPS remakes suck dick as a result because it's just D/P, ORAS is similar because Emerald did heavy lifting for gen 3
>full reins on the Diamond and Pearl remakes, which (obviously) turned out to be fricking terrible
Well ORAS was terrible too so who cares
Based, keep letting shitty people make Pokeman games. I want tendies to feel what us Halo fans had to deal with for years.
I hate using cod to explain but cod had 3 different dev teams making seperate games so they could churn out games year after year, while spending 3 years collectively making each one.
Pokemon has done the same thing and the team notable for the garbage remakes is making the new one.
ILCA DEEZ NUTS
GOTTEM
OOOO GOTTEM
Ace Combat devs
https://www.frontlinejp.net/2021/12/new-ace-combat-project-and-the-future-of-the-series-discussed-by-developers/
>ILCA is the team who did Diamond/Pearl on Switch
>They will announce Black & White by ILCA team
R I P
LMAOOOOOOOOO
>BW but with QoL & a harder battle facility
So.... What am I supposed to get angry about?
shit graphics
>>BW but with
>"but with"
KEK!
He thinks it will not be "faithful remakes" with nothing new like BDSP
Everybody, point and laugh!
Forced EXP share ruining all the fun in the game
It sucks, if they go for a full BW remake in that shit BDSP style they should include both BW and BW2 on the samw fricking cart.
When ORAS came out I knew remakes would get worse with time, we had it so good during gens III and IV in terms of remakes.
>QoL
Lmao. These are the people who removed quality of life features from platinum. You're getting the DS games but in a worse artstyle.
palworlds is already dead
why bother
Are you illiterate?
Scarlet and Violet are like 2 years old already and it's already finished up. My guess is it's going to be some announcements for Unite, Pokemon Mastersex, Maybe some little small spin off on the E-shop like Rumble or something, A Pokemon GO event announcement, Maybe another Clothing collab or shit maybe TCG update, A Remake announcement and end the Direct with a next Gen sneak peak on track to release next year around holiday maybe.
That's how these things usually go.
There should be something about Sleep.
Also i don't actually think we're getting gen 10 until next year.
>Mastersex
Lewd
>more pokeslop
does this series really needs a new game every year?
>does this series really needs a new game every year?
Unironically Yeah, im part of the fandom and if the Fandom doesn't get some kind of new announcement or content within about 2-3 months apart they get fricking pissed and anxious that Pokemon is dying. Literally anything newly announced relives them of worry like a Unite update or a new TCG expansion update literally ANYTHING.
You haven't been anywhere near the pokemon fanbase, have you.
>>does this series really needs a new game every year?
>Unironically Yeah, im part of the fandom and if the Fandom doesn't get some kind of new announcement or content within about 2-3 months apart they get fricking pissed and anxious that Call of Duty is dying. Literally anything newly announced relives them of worry like a zombies update or a new map pack expansion update literally ANYTHING.
Fans say no, suits say yes
What? But literally everyone is better than gamefreak.
No they're not. The ILCA demakes were way worse than FRLG, HGSS and even ORAS.
Nah. ILCA is even worse. They demade a game. It's so rare to see a demake.
The romhacks will still be funner, more difficult, and more true to what Pokemon should be vs whatever remake they shit out.
>unsourced rumor
Another moronic twitter thread died for this
Too bad Game Freak/TPCi took them out back and put a bullet through their head, they were the last good thing about this shit franchise.
yeah playing pokemon games but with less content and even slower shittier animations was great
They still exist, they're just stuck in mobage hell. It's more tragic than if they actually dissolved.
HD2D BW3
>twittergay leaks
this is somehow worse than coom threads. go frick yourself pyoro you're not "the man" you're "the Black person"
Yeah, frick that shit, I could just play more Palworld.
Why does anyone still play pokemon? The game hasn't changed at all since the beginning.
Idk dude let me play the other turn based monster raising pvp game like...uh...DQ monsters (the pvp sucks)
I want a top-down Pokemon remake like Let's Go (with the same visual style) with the catching mechanics of Arceus.
You can't have the catching mechanics from Arceus without fully controllable camera. Top-down view would require severely dumbing down stealth and aiming.
Not necessarily. MGS is a top-down stealth game whose stealth has more consequences for failure. Compare that to a top-down Pokemon where a Pokemon spotting you, just misses an opportunity to catch it off guard. Plus, having a console with dual sticks like the Switch would make aiming easier than you'd think.
Not sure why they didn’t go with this style but with full battles and capturing. Would be kino. It’s like they hate the idea of making a halfway decent Pokémon game.
I still love that image where the guy is optimistic about LGPE only to have his hopes shattered. He gets more jaded and expects the same for BDSP thinking he knows better now, only for the game to turn out even worse.
Hahaha unova remake made by ILCA? that's crazy.
i got the diamond and pearl remake used cuz pokemon is almost always fun compared to other AAA
and gen 9 sux
but why the frick did we get worse graphics than x and y on a switch game
it shouldve been done with the same engine as sword and shield
nintendo sucks so much ass now lmao
*ahem*
ORAS had sovl.
it was decent remake, better than BDSP at least.
Ruby was the first pokemon I got aftter silver back in the day and I got blown away by how great it was. I got it right before sun released because I couldn't wait and holy shit man SUN was so good too. The only thing they should add is kinda skip button for all the dialogue in the future if you want to replay maybe but I enjoyed the plot and characters a lot. Really great jrpgs. Even sword was ok (with the dlcs)
>pokemon cant advance, it's an evolutionary dead end
>Plapworld did great but the devs didn't anticipate this success beyond "foreigners like openworld crafting early access games", they may not know what to do next
Between plapworld and pokeslop, are we going to finally reach the death of the monster collecting trend?
you underestimate the battered wives that buy these games
If by death you mean "8 million sales instead of 12".
vote your prediction
https://strawpoll.com/PKgl3qe6Rnp
So this is their response to Palworld, FRICKING KEK!
Scarlet and Violet was a mistake
Gold and Silver were a mistake
>another piece of shit remake
>made by the same homosexuals who made the last piece of shit remake
>now about gen 5 games
>this will remove all the soul those games had
Well, it's gonna sell more than Palworld, and i'm gonna be fricking depressed
I think Palworld actually outsold BDSP
Not yet They're both at 15 million, but BDSP's sales haven't updated yet. We'll get BDSPs current sales after April
It doesn't matter who they get to work on it. The last GF made Pokemon is the worst fricking thing with the franchises name slapped on it
It's going to underwhelming at best, or unplayable dogshit at worst
>The last GF made Pokemon is the worst fricking thing with the franchises name slapped on it
sorry thats SWSH. SV is actually okay minus performance and npc trainer designs are kind of ass aside from the main characters
I was bored with Scarlet and Violet by the fourth gym, something no mainline game has done to me before.
>he missed out on area KINO
fricked up anon
>The "best" part of the game is just shallow rip-off of things from other games and anime, and more less a big hole to go down
Seeing a screenshot of it was all I needed
final boss is kino anon
>kino
>kino
>it's kino!
Get a grip please.
It's not, it's lame af and left a lot of things unanswered. For a supposedly mysterious, unexplored region there was absolutely nothing to explore or discover.
Pokegays lost their minds having three other people traveling alongside them, when other rpg's have been doing this for damn near 20 years.
Those other party members did 0 things to help you though.
The image doesn't capture the ~15fps this area grants, it ran like ass and looked like a bloomed out Wii game. GF is the most talentless bunch of game devs in Asia, they make western games look good
The sad part is, this even an exaggeration. I have seen and personally played better looking and running Wii and PS2 games
>All that build up for a manipulative cosmic horror laying dormant in the depths of AZ
>It's just an UwU litol tutle
>Palworld is competing with this
No wonder Palworld won.
>grass is cartoonishly green
>water and rocks are grey af
wtf lol. who directed this shit
No. SWSH at least worked and had a stable enough framerate, and had things to do, and you enter the fricking buildings
SV is not just a bad Pokemon game, it's a bad fricking game all around, and I'm sick of people pretending like you can stand the stink longer and get sued to it, that makes it good.
>had things to do
okay so you're trolling, thanks
Bite me SVshill, have fun running into 5 different Smolivs that are a pixel high and a b***h to see
open world where you can do shit in any order > the literal hallway that is SWSHs "world"
>B-but you can do it any order
That doesn't make it fun, just traveling the world is a fricking chore to get to the objectives you need to get to. And when that's your whole goddamn selling point, that's an issue
still better than swsh
>coping
>excuses
>minus performance and npc trainer designs are kind of ass aside from the main characters
lol. SV has significantly more problems than that. It's just that people pretend there aren't because "le open world maymay"
SV was one of the worst open worlds I've experienced in any game because you effectively get punished for treating it as such.
It's your fault you don't have a rotating team of 40 pokemon anon apparently
heh.
On another point, I was baffled at how people were defending the fact that gym leaders don't scale to your badge count, considers this is a canonical concept shown multiple times throughout the anime and even previous games. One of the most notable exampels being in the Pokemon Origns OVAs, Brock specifically asks Red how many badges he has, and then scales himself down to meet Red's current power.
Even with Gym Leader rematches starting with Gen 3, many gym leaders express joy that they now get to fight you at "full power" after you becoming champion.
I also found it silly that the obedience mechanics in SV were tied to the gym badges instead of total badge count. That would actively encourage the player to treat it like an open world game instead of a typical Pokemon game with a little bit more non-linearity.
Swsh and SV are both good, people just push REALLY hard that they are bad because they are the dex cut games.
>Swsh and SV are both good
This is why pokemon fans are called delusional.
Not an argument
>Nooo the game is le unplayable because it's easy and doesn't have a battle frontier
>the game is bad because it looks bad, runs bad, cuts content, it's unenjoyable due to forced lack of difficulty, the characters are awful, the plot might as well not exist, and it's still the same tired gameplay with nothing added except some gimmick at best that'll be discarded next gen anyway
>"no the game is good"
>Muh gwafix
>Muh pwetend game for literal toddlers is hard
There were lots of good features added for competitive but you are eternally seething about your baby 8 badge adventure not growing up with you.
>There were lots of good features added for competitive
0,001%
Literally nobody cares about competitive Pokemon.
If you aren't either
>5-8 years old
>Somebody who likes competitive
The series isn't for you
Ah yes the off-game content. That makes the actual product becoming terrible actually not matter.
Because GF couldn't just do both, have a good game and robust multi-player features.
SV and Swsh are reasonably well balanced if you aren't tryharding with meta single player Pokemon like starters or grinding the raids.
You never lose without even changing up your team or grinding. It's a challenge to fail in them.
SWSH story is turbo moronic, battle backgrounds are half assed, dungeons are literal hallways postgame near nonexistent with a somehow even MORE moronic plot with the worst looking NPCs ever
I love those guys. SWOOSH has Ballguy too. I don't know how you can hate on the NPCs in that game. They're hilarious
ball guy isn't ment to be taken seriously those two morons are
SV is a fricking dumpster fire of an Open World Game
After Palworld, there is really no defense for SV.
joe pls go
It'll be not even a game, just shit and a picture of the devs telling you to go have a nice day.
Two versions, $80 each.
Outsells SV.
Honestly, gamefreak needs to go and I want a reboot of the franchise.
>main games suck
>remakes suck too now
>if you’re lucky you’ll get a legends game
I miss being excited for Pokémon
Pokemon is literaly the same game every time
don't see why they'd trust ILCA again after how poorly received BDSP was
but then again those crazy japs just do whatever the frick they want and succeed in spite of it so whatever
It still sold 15m and it clearly didn't damage the brand in any way due to SV sales and PLA too. You make it sound like they were blindsided by the game and had to release it.
after it and SV there were some headlines about them wanting to improve their quality, there seems to be some self-awareness there
but if there's no incentive i doubt it'll amount to much
https://gonintendo.com/contents/24396-pokemon-co-pondering-how-to-ensure-quality-of-pokemon-games-while-keeping-up-their
Yeah, look how much they "improved" the game in a year
>game struggles in high fidelity area at high speed
Whoa
>high fidelity
>
>high speed
>high fidelity
>high speed
frickign lmao
holy shit why am I so easy to make laugh
>high fidelity
And Pokegays still ask why they're the butt of all jokes in the gaming world.
>game
Good lord wtf happened to Game Freak, 3D was a fricking mistake for them
Switch ia underpowered
That's not a damn excuse.
Its valid
Xenoblade Chronicles is on the same damn console.
Runs like shit
>Runs like shit
And Scarlet and Violet don't?
scarlet and violet have a reason for running like shit (being moronic at optimizing their open world) theres literally no reason SWSH should run like shit when every map that isn't the wild area are literal hallways
>scarlet and violet have a reason for running like shit
More fricking excuses.
There's no excuse when BOTW/TOTK are on the Switch.
there really isn't but gamefreak has been awful at making games since gen 1
better than pokemon
This is like saying goat shit tastes better than cow shit.
it is, they forced them to become a home console dev due to making their latest handheld on par with a home console.
>they forced them to become a home console dev
You know they made more games than just pokemon, right?
wouldn't know
none of which are home console games, even their one big steam/muti release game is also on switch. Pokemon on console has always been outsourced until Let's Go. It's a fact that the company never wants to invest in making the jump to an AAA studio regardless of how much money their joint company and brand make
Meanwhile my duct-taped computer from 2016 can run Palworld at consistent 60 fps.
How did a bunch of Japs in a basement out do the billion dollar franchise.
palworld looks so fricking bad
all that fricking noting space in the Pokemon clip somehow infuriates me, Game Freak is this bad good god
Palworld is just as janky and ugly, stop kidding yourself. You are literally using their status as indie devs as a shield.
OK let's compare gayfreak when Red and Green came out vs PocketPair's Palworld.
>red and green sell 600,000 first week
>Palworld sells 8,000,000 first week
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and don't give me that 'oh noooooo things were different back then!' Having less competition from other games would be gayfreak's advantage.
neither of those games have substance
Be careful anon, just the mention of Pal will make the Pokegays here, go into an autistic rage this board has never seen before, just look at how they keep making Steam chart threads on an hourly basis.
Nintendo has always been behind the graphical curve to an absurd degree dude. Look at this fricking fan project that came out 7 years ago, TO THIS DAY Nintendo hasn't made a game that looks this good.
NINTENDO
It's just like playing WoW on the family prebuilt in 2005. SOVL
What this really tells you however is they still want to pump shit out. They seem oblivious to the issues
>SP/BD sold like hot cakes
Gee, why would they ever think faithful (lazy) remakes aren't commercially viable?
I would honestly prefer if they didn't do a Unova remake at this point
was arceus a one off thing or are they going back to it? I quite liked it, palworld is still better overall b ecause it does everything arceus did but better
Does anyone even care about the Paldean orcs?
No one talks about Nemona(which is good because that's a man people pretend is female), the v-tuber, Klara, or the Asian b***h at all.
Generic Evee pokegirl is far more relevant.
The SV cast is forgetabble but as usual Pokemon morons ate it up because Game Freak gave a tiny bit of a frick about trying to make a story this time.
You're both moronic.
Scarlet and Violet sucks
They don't.
1. This is not something Pyoro saw on Nintendo's youtube channel like usual, but random shit he heard from random shitter a year ago
2. 'Outsourced' doesn't mean it's ILCA again
3. ILCA can make good looking games like One Piece Odyssey. BDSP had 1 year development time and from the start was contracted as a "faithful chibi remake with no changes" which doesn't have to be the case again
cant be worse than gamefreak
What are some good Palworld-likes?
Palworld won.
why is pokemon getting more and more moronic? god pokemon, alien pokemon, time travel pokemon, whats next?
the giant pokemon were the dumbest shit
Pokemon…..BUT IN THE REAL WORLD! (And No I don’t fricking mean GO)
Can't get dumber than this...surely
So some 100 million year old turtle pokemon invented the concept of balloons and other man made objects like light bulbs as a metaphorical interpretation for pokemon types? Ogey.
That's just what happens when you have a long-running series that keeps on going.
It even happened with Dragon Ball where Goku can "output punch strength that can potentially destroy the universe" and that was before Goku gained his two other color-coded forms.
Fortunately, they are starting to dial it down with Dragon Ball. Hopefully, Pokemon does the same thing. it's why things need to eventually end
>This is their Palworld killer
It's over....
We thought ORAS was as bad as it got then BDSP released
can't wait to see how much lower it sinks
Pokken 2 when?
Pokégays get what they fricking deserve. They'll buy it, love it and praise it. They're that conditioned to eat shit. And Nintendo laugh their asses off, everytime.
This guy is an editor for Nintendo right? Or maybe he's in charge of their American channel. He only ever seems to know what is being uploaded specifically on Nintendo's channel. He has no clue what's going on with Pokémon or other consoles but he nails Nintendo with 100% accuracy and only at most a week ahead of time.
How can Pokemon Fans still defend this shit? They must have realized how little care the games have been given nowadays, just because the Company thinks Pokemon fans will buy it anyway. They must understand just how low the bar has SUNK when it comes to the quality of the games as a whole.
Right?
>How can Pokemon Fans still defend this shit?
The majority of fans who'd be critical of this garbage left after dexit. So most of what remains are the shiteaters who will defend any slop GF shits on their plate.
>How can Pokemon Fans still defend this shit?
Pokemon's gameplay doesn't actually change much between games despite what people would have you believe. It is possible to still enjoy newer gens.
You have to understand anon, standards have changed over the years, even if a game has solid gameplay it doesn't matter if it looks "bad".
So the same game, except the quality of almost everything has dramatically been lowered. Cmon man, you must be better than this.
>, except the quality of almost everything has dramatically been lowered.
NTA but define quality.
Graphics, Story(Writing of the world/characters/), Sound, General gameplay(Fun stuff you can do on the side or The battles themselves). The performance etc.
Stuff you would compare the old games to the new one. What did this new game do better/worse? What was added/removed? Some Subject stuff sure, But some things can objectly be called worse. Like the graphics, performance, and general glitches.
>Graphics, Story(Writing of the world/characters/), Sound, General gameplay(Fun stuff you can do on the side or The battles themselves). The performance etc.
In other words, you should be enjoying SV since since the only problem is the graphics and performance, both being superficial traits for turn based games.
>except the quality of almost everything has dramatically been lowered
Eh. There's ups and downs to all the games, I disagree with there having been a straight decline.
Remember in SS where you noclipped through the floor at random or the game crashed because you were playing with other people? It's been straight bad all around and the decline only gotten steeper.
>Remember in SS where you noclipped through the floor at random or the game crashed because you were playing with other people?
Yes and yes, more frequently than any other game in fact.
's gameplay doesn't actually change much
>And Pokegays think this is a good thing.
>no you have to pointlessly reinvent the wheel and frick everything up noooo
You mean like Megas? I mean, Z-Moves. Wait, I mean Dynamax. No, hold on, I mean Terastallizing.
Yeah, no pointless reinvention of the wheel here.
A small addiction to the established system is not some big reinvention moron.
Pokegays
>"Pokefans are not shills! We are the most critical ones about Pokemon games!"
Also Pokegays
>"SV and SWSH were good games!"
Not only did Palworld outsell virtually all Pokemon games (every single one if you seperate dual releases into each game), but it will have a decay on future games too
the mystique of pokemon is gone now that anyone can make these gamefreak games with unity asset flips
All pokemon had over PW is the hot hebes, but they're not acceptable anymore so all we get now are non-binary xergenders approved by Twitter.
Do wish there were more hebes in PW.
>but they're not acceptable anymore so all we get now are non-binary xergenders approved by Twitter.
So stop playing Palworld if you don't like troony shit stop exposing yourself to it.
Cute, unlike the SV characters.
Oh, so you think trannies are cute.
That explains why you're angry at pokemon.
Isn't SV notorious for having troony looking trainers?
No, SV is notorious for having cute girls.
>he says posting nothing and a barely passable slag
It is, anon just a butthurt SVgay.
for all the non main characters yeah, the main characters are okay though
SV has some of the best girls in the series.
she looks so good and then the moronic boots jesus christ
Eh, they grew on me mainly because they're just a group of goofy kids.
I hate this austistic skelleton but not as much as the insufferable autistic "hispanic" girl.
>posts a man to prove his point
She looks way better without makeup
Yes lmfao, SVgays are moronic, this game has the ugliest npc's out of the whole mainline games
SVbros............................................
>this game has the ugliest npc's out of the whole mainline games
I think you meant to post this.
She is at least built like a woman.
Ewwwww
Big dick futa energy from them both
love to see them frick.
it has one muscle "ugly" woman model which morons claim as trans, yes.
Is SVgays only excuse for the game is "at least it's better than SwSh" holy fricking shit this fanbase has got to be the worst fanbase.
the worst part of the d/p remakes was the lack of black outline on anything. It just makes the game look so..off? I honestly can't explain why it looks terrible it just does.The lack of definition, combined with the chibi style and the colouring makes the detail just disappear and kills the visuals.
i find it hilarious that by the time pokemon presents happens palword is completely forgotten
>The Pokemon Presents sucks ass
>Palworld drops a big update the next day
Social Media is going to be hell on Earth if it happens.
It literally doesn't matter what is shown lol
Pokemon community online is going to explode no matter what and it will have zero effect on anything again.
digibros...
you lot still exist?
This is the biggest nothing burger around
I had that attitude with ORAS and BDSP, but now they've made it to the gen that I actually care about.
I mean, it's
>Oh I heard something but it may not happen
If I recall the rumours weren't ILCA doing it, it was a Legends Kyurem game.
>more masculine than the trap character of V-tuber emblem
The world we're coming into.
What I love about the "pokemon has been dead since x" narrative is that you guys still spaz the frick out over every new release, proving that you gays are still fans of this children's IP
Its because they're addicts and they know they can't get their tamer fix from other games because they don't actually like monster tamers as a whole.
Of course we're fans, that's why we want it to be good instead of the absolute dogshit it is right now.
Pokehomosexuals been surpassed Sonicgays for being the most braindead fricks, but at this point they're eclipsing those frickers for being moronic.
Tell that to Superstars
Superstars flopping just further proves that the Sonic fanbase is more intelligent than the Pokemon fanbase and won't buy up no-assed slop.
>Superstars flopping just further proves that the Sonic fanbase is more intelligent than the Pokemon fanbase and won't buy up no-assed slop.
So you admit that they're worse given Superstars was a success?
Are you fricking moronic, SuperStars sold like shit so much that Sega had to make a statement about no one buying that piece of shit, meanwhile Shit like Scarlet and Violet has 23 million
>SuperStars sold like shit so much that Sega had to make a statement about no one buying that piece of shit
You're thinking of origins. Superstars sold 3 million or so
Oh no no no
https://www.ign.com/articles/sega-issues-financial-warning-after-sluggish-sales-of-sonic-superstars-endless-dungeon-and-total-war-pharaoh
at least Sonicgays had some resteraint to not buy that piece of shit of a "Classic Sonic" game, meanwhile Pokehomosexual have dumpster fire games like SwSh, Scarlet and Violet and BDSP going into the 15 millions. They just can't help themselves to keep buying the slop Game Freak shits on their plate.
*restraint
>they're dumpster fires because I say so
>open world 3d game
>2d sprite game
>it's a 2d sprite game so it's ALLOWED to look like shit!
gen 2 sprites actually look good, the night color palette is SOVL
As much as I love Gen 5, surely someone in early development would've noticed that making the battles be 3D landscapes with pixelart that can't resize for shit when the camera moved around was a bad visual move
Can't believe I actually agree
Sonicgays haven't been balls to the wall weird since the late 2000s. Chris-chan still being himself isn't the entire fangroup.
>GEN 5 IS GOOD BECAUSE ITS A DOLLAR STORE VERSION OF GEN 1, BUT WITH NO POKEMON!!!!!
Is anything related to PMD too much to ask for?
PMD guys are releasing their own standalone mystery dungeon soon so yeah probably
There's like 50+ mystery dungeon games, those games are made fast on poorgay bufget
Brilliant Diamond was fine remakes.
You’re just mad it wasn’t made in the Sword Shield/Scarlett and Violet engine so you can clown on the trees again.
Chibi overworld is still more soulful.
chibi overworld would be good if the chibis actually looked good, the bdsp chibis look like shit compared to the XY chibis
XY was anything but chibis lmao
That’s when it became the 3D slop.
Those aren't mutually exclusive
these are chibis you dipshit
Looks bretty gud.
I actually liked the XY chibis. Hated that sun moon moved to full size characters and cut down the size of the world as a trade off.
Yeah that shit's on BDSP's chibi's
>spritegay is a fricking moron
go figure
I can't believe people still defend Game Freak let alone ILCA, Literal Clown World
They made a more faithful remake than gamefreak ever has.
Sorry but it’s true.
>switch is weak bro it's not GF's fault
I would agree with these kind of comments comparing pokemon to other games in the console if they didn't also look like shit. GF is only developing for one fricking console, hell they were developing 3ds games not that many years ago. It's not that hard for them to test their own game and see it's a fricking problem to release it like this...
Whenever people say the switch is weak remind them The Witcher 3 was ported to switch and not only looks great but runs well too.
those people are just sonygras crying because their shit console doesnt have games at all.
a console doesnt need power if you can have fun, period. those who cry for power dont even play games.
I'll never forget one Pokehomosexual was trying to argue that this random ass Gamer Girl Twitch streamer was trying to glitch the game on purpose.
Like I always say they are the battered wives of gaming fanbases, it used to be Sonicgays, but they snatched that crown easily.
>gamergirl
>twitch
>pokemon merch everywhere
What do you think her body count is?
Nobody is gonna mention that shadow monster that crashed the game? That's some creepypasta level scary shit.
I just genuinely wish for pokegays to live in utter misery every time new slop drops and I’m never let down lmao, it’s like an annual snuff film
Jeez you Unovagays are mentally ill.
This, pretty much.
Anyone buying modern pokemon games are the actual mentally ill ones, and that's why they deserve to be treated as subhuman.
>Anyone buying modern pokemon games are the actual mentally ill ones
Then pirate them.
Still better than the old games.
>Still better than the old games.
Fricking KEK
And the Pokegays shows themselves. Criticizing Game Freak is off the table when it comes to his childhood game, watch how Masuda has them by the balls.
Game Freak in General is dogshit
Do you morons even engage in Pokemon community
It's nonstop b***hing "wah why do you buy games" even though they drive engagement constantly
masuda is literally the only reason pokemon was good tho?
that and ichinose
>going against the narrative
Matsuda has never made a good game, only formed the foundation of the good games
>still better than the old games
Unironic Slopguzzler in the open I can’t believe they showed their face here lmaooo
So does Nintendo just not care to figure out who pyoro is?
He clearly works at the company, at some position that touches everything coming down the pipeline.
Usually when you have employees leaking information you set an information trap, but maybe Nintendo just doesn't care since he isn't selling private info.
Mainline Pokemon had a rough transition into 3D
Reading through this thread just shown me how it's just PCgays are the main complainers about things that doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong, new pokemon have many issue but you homosexuals act like Pokemongays don't complain as well. I crossboard and visit /vp/ a lot. Those motherfrickers complain as well and hate how Gamefreak is super lazy. Where did you think the "small company, please understand" meme came from? Hell, people have said that Gamefreak have been this stupid since Gold and Silver since they need Iwata to help them. I agree about the performances need help, who the frick cares about graphics? That shit literally ruined games.
I completely dropped pokemon on pokemon day last year when they had that cuck in a suit announce nothing except mobile shit and the netflix show. I sold my switch games, skipped the dlc and haven't touched any of the older games since. I wanted them to release the old games on the switch online, but of course they didnt and they are obviously finding a way to make milk them for more sheckles. I finally woke up to what a shitty soulless company they are and I've never looked back.
I like BDSP
pokebros… not like this… in 48 hours the palchads are going to be dabbing on us… why did we buy BDSP and enable this? why can’t we stop buying kusoge? I’m going to buy both versions. I can’t stop myself. the slop, I can’t ignore its siren call…
Just play SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI you subhumans
Looks like Palworld does indeed to Pokemon better than GameFreak
>does indeed to