And all their former devs who leave to make other games prove they're washed up tasteless idiots with no originality. It's no surprise the shit they made internally was routinely scrapped and that fact does no favors for the negative stereotypes of older people in tech. Kotick being a slimy israelite didn't help but just fricking look at what these morons do when left to their own devices. Mobile game tier slop, copypaste games, lazy fricks with no drive to actually work. Then all the tertiary jobs that rely on a product being made like the event organizers get ground to dust then fired.
every time I see a 'made by former X devs' I shake my head, I can't recall the last time I've seen a good game come out of devs going off on their own and doing their own thing, the main one that comes to mind is titanfall and I guess technically apex but I don't like apex
Microsoft is saving it. Phil Spencer kicked in the door, took one look down the hallway at Odyssey and shut that shit down immediately. Now Xbox is going to work behind the scenes to squeeze as much money out of Diablo/OW2 as possible and fund a surefire hit
this, microsoft does the same thing to all of its studios then pretends to save face everytime >dump millions on studio >demand a game in X timeframe >provide absolutely no oversight or help except money >X timeframe lapses >nuOh my gOd the game isnt done???? >CANCELLED CANCELLED CANCELLED >FIRE THE KISSASS MIDDLE MANAGER WE PUT IN CHARGE >microsoft looks at profit margin >wow we need to spend lets buy a company >dump millions on studio....
>took one look down the hallway at Odyssey and shut that shit down immediately
That'd be a first. Until now Spencer has had an infuriating hands-off management approach where he takes the biggest paycheck and does literally nothing in return, it's how Redfall got all the way to being released.
Maybe Phil learned from his mistakes? Doubt it.
Phil said in a leaked email baldurs gate 3 was a b-rate game and didn't care if sony got it as a console exclusive while bragging about starfield changing gaming.
JUST MAKE A FRICKING SHOOTER, TPS OR FPS SET IN THE STAR CRAFT WORLD. THAT'S IT. THAT'S FRICKING IT. USE WHATEVER YOU USED FROM NOVA AS A BASIC OUTLINE BUT DEVELOP IT BETTER THIS TIME. WHY IS THIS SO HARD? I GET RTS GAMES ARE NOT A BIG THING THESE DAYS BUT THERE IS NO REASON WHY T HEY CAN'T USE THEIR STAR CRAFT IP IN OTHER WAYS. ASS
I don't want a MMO and didn't suggest one but shooters are still a popular genre and the Star Craft world is interesting narrative wise. But it doesn't have to be shooters they can literally do anything with that world.
very likely it was never even meant to exist in a meaningful way. the way they announced it came off entirely as a ham-handed way to satisfy their investors, and they likely never put in anything more than a token effort to develop it to avoid lawsuits
I don't want a MMO and didn't suggest one but shooters are still a popular genre and the Star Craft world is interesting narrative wise. But it doesn't have to be shooters they can literally do anything with that world.
>blizzard tries to do a valve and slowly cook a garbage idea only to cancel it 80% of the way to completion (many such cases)
nothing of value was lost. Survival shit is garbage. Another mmo is also a fricking moronic idea because they cannibalise their own market. >1900 employees layed off
I suspect nothing of note will change. Clean up the bureaucratic bullshit and woko haram positions.
Overwatch was originally supposed to be an MMO.
now, even with 5 years of live service, it still can't produce a scrap of lore or new content.
i think these Blizzard MMO projects are just an office full of devs collecting a paycheck for sitting around eating chicken nuggets and doing fricking nothing for years on end.
Hey morons this game was never supposed to be a mmo, it was not announced as one, the only person who is saying this is the OP you gullible morons
>need to sack thousand of devs
that's normal when buying other companies, you don't keep all the redundant execs, and you don't keep the lazy ass frickers that were only there because of internal friendships
I have been part of 2 hostile takeovers and yes this is what always happens. The company being taken over presents its buttcheeks to the bigger company and gets ass fricked and loses half their staff
>hostile takeover
It doesn't matter the takeover did if you want to start semantics. Hostile, voluntary there results are the same. There will always be redundancy and waste to cut.
>Buy company >Notice company had a lot of middle management that was simply a series of meaningless promotions to make people feel good >Lay off a bunch of said employees and the teams they "manage" because they literally do nothing for the company
This isn't rocket science anon, it's business. If someone is worthless at a company, they don't get to hang out and just collect a paycheck unless they can go undetected forever
Maybe they'll finally do something about m+ and the WOW token now that Mike "I sell carries" is out. M+ is one of the last vestiges of trash game design added in Legion that has been suffocating WOW for a decade
>blizzard tries to do a valve and slowly cook a garbage idea only to cancel it 80% of the way to completion (many such cases)
nothing of value was lost. Survival shit is garbage. Another mmo is also a fricking moronic idea because they cannibalise their own market. >1900 employees layed off
I suspect nothing of note will change. Clean up the bureaucratic bullshit and woko haram positions.
It absolutely was not, Elon made it so you now get paid as a blue checkmark based on how many interactions you get. So now for Africans it's literally a way to earn a living
I used to be able to look at the replies from my sports teams and see people discussing things like a new signing. Now it's 100 Africans saying "Great" "ok" on repeat
It absolutely was. The methods changed since Chat GPT is now a thing but Twitter always has an iss with people using bots for engagement.
>Elon made it so you now get paid as a blue checkmark based on how many interactions you get.
I will take that over having to pay some shady guy 10k and being one of the few with approved opinions to get that checkmark any day.
>I used to be able to look at the replies from my sports teams and see people discussing things like a new signing. Now it's 100 Africans saying "Great" "ok" on repeat
Like I said botting was always an issue the tactics just changed.
This was during the pre-Elon era:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-bot-scandal-puts-further-231911485.html
You're just gaslighting now, replies to big tweets did not look like this prior to Elon:
Yeah bro replies to all of Nintendo's tweets totally used to look like this, not a problem at all
3 months ago
Anonymous
You are backtracking now. The issue was botting. That existed before even when twitter had 75% more staff.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You are backtracking now
Except i'm not, I said
>Twitter is absolutely overran by AI garbage shit and every major account's replies are just full of Africans engagement farming and bots
Which is absolutely true even if you refuse to acknowledge it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Except you are >Twitter is absolutely overran by AI garbage shit and every major account's replies are just full of Africans engagement farming and bots
This was an issue that existed before, the methods were just different.
The fact that you refuse to acknowledge botting was an issue before shows that this is 100% political in nature. You could easily say bots were an issue now and before but you want to tie this specially to Elon.
This might be world shattering for boring c**ts like you, but not everybody gives a shit about politics, some people have actual hobbies.
>boring
Ah so you are a leftist. only leftist homosexuals use that empty insult "boring" when they have no other insult to label something with. I knew it.
Yea bro bots were never an issue it's just the guys whose politics I hate that invented it
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-bot-scandal-puts-further-231911485.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/twitters-ceo-admitted-the-platform-is-broken-and-is-asking-for-help.html
https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/pressure-grows-on-twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-amid-twitter-bot-scandal-14050935
I don't care about politics you absolute schizo, I care about how it's now impossible to actually discuss sports or video games on there because of interaction farming being so lucrative
3 months ago
Anonymous
>don't care about politics
Yea bullshit which is why you immediately jumped on attacking Twitter for an issue that was there before Elon came aboard. > I care about how it's now impossible to actually discuss sports or video games on there because of interaction farming being so lucrative
Before Twitter chances were high that the person you were "discussing" sports with wasn't real based on how many bots there were
3 months ago
Anonymous
This might be world shattering for boring c**ts like you, but not everybody gives a shit about politics, some people have actual hobbies.
Are you drunk? The bot situations is 10 times worse nowadays
Even with a small account I get multiple thot bot accounts following me every day, and I get random bot comments even when I'm replying to other small friend accounts.
It never happened before.
And even outside that >"for you" tab forced on the very front, and it's just a bunch a blue check accounts trying to bait and generate as much angry replies as possible since now they get paid for it >absolutely moronic re-branding nobody with a brain will ever follow >can't even DM people half the time because it requires a blue check verification
No wonder this shit lost 80% of its value and it's falling more.
all I see in this post is a useful idiot for the intelligence agencies that want Twitter shut down so they can censor stories like the Hunter Biden laptop again
It's not worse at all the tactics just changed. Pre Musk almost every major tweet had bait replies for engagement meant to annoy you because that would help your metrics. It has since changed.
>amerimutt politics immediately mentioned
Holy shit, who the frick cares.
I always stayed away from political and social discourse on twitter because it will be always be just a shitshow due to the very structure of the website
All I know is that I've been using twitter for a few years, mainly to follow some internet friends, vidya news and artists, and my experience is objectively shittier now
That's my own fricking experience, regardless of how much people try to gaslight
It's not worse at all the tactics just changed. Pre Musk almost every major tweet had bait replies for engagement meant to annoy you because that would help your metrics. It has since changed.
I bet you there are people at Blizzard who have been there for years and haven't done anything outside attend meetings and answer emails. They have so much fricking waste compared to the amount of games they are working on its insane. In fact this layoff number is low it really should be 3 times that
Imagine thinking a dumbass westoid company like Blizzard can make kino like Palworld. Phil is right. He should just give up and only hire asian companies
Another studio under the ground thanks to Microsoft but in this case I am happy since I called it even before the merger lmao what a bunch of autistic morons
it actually is, companies are going to have to actually get productive in the coming years and won't have the funds to waste on useless garbage, IE DEI and the like
Or they will die
What's shocking to me is that they had nothing to show except some very early concept art
Nothing at Blizzcon. Not a trailer. Or some screenshots
Literally nothing. Was it even a project in the first place?
>owner that doesnt want to fund anything or take any chances but expects ginormous returns >developer that doesnt want to work and has been propped up by sunk-cost fanbase for over a decade
its like a match made in hell
Overwatch was originally supposed to be an MMO.
now, even with 5 years of live service, it still can't produce a scrap of lore or new content.
i think these Blizzard MMO projects are just an office full of devs collecting a paycheck for sitting around eating chicken nuggets and doing fricking nothing for years on end.
>i think these Blizzard MMO projects are just an office full of devs collecting a paycheck for sitting around eating chicken nuggets and doing fricking nothing for years on end.
That did happen. They would get fricking wasted too.
it's ironic because a lot of studios most notably 3D realms and Valve didn't work on games much for a time because they were all playing WoW in the office.
>people are claiming twitter wasn't full of bots before elon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>let's conveniently forget the fact the ceo didn't want to show that bots were not rampant
didn't read the article except for the ''didn't want to prove btos were less than 5% part'' but it's obvious bots were rampant
go back to twitter you looney troons
blizz has been nothing but a skinsuit for a decade now
And all their former devs who leave to make other games prove they're washed up tasteless idiots with no originality. It's no surprise the shit they made internally was routinely scrapped and that fact does no favors for the negative stereotypes of older people in tech. Kotick being a slimy israelite didn't help but just fricking look at what these morons do when left to their own devices. Mobile game tier slop, copypaste games, lazy fricks with no drive to actually work. Then all the tertiary jobs that rely on a product being made like the event organizers get ground to dust then fired.
every time I see a 'made by former X devs' I shake my head, I can't recall the last time I've seen a good game come out of devs going off on their own and doing their own thing, the main one that comes to mind is titanfall and I guess technically apex but I don't like apex
I wonder if Palworld magically killed it.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were going to make a Poke-like MMO and WoW's pet battles were them testing the waters.
The frick? Where's Microsoft money?
Microsoft is saving it. Phil Spencer kicked in the door, took one look down the hallway at Odyssey and shut that shit down immediately. Now Xbox is going to work behind the scenes to squeeze as much money out of Diablo/OW2 as possible and fund a surefire hit
Implying anyone at Microsoft can tell apart a good game from a bad one
this, microsoft does the same thing to all of its studios then pretends to save face everytime
>dump millions on studio
>demand a game in X timeframe
>provide absolutely no oversight or help except money
>X timeframe lapses
>nuOh my gOd the game isnt done????
>CANCELLED CANCELLED CANCELLED
>FIRE THE KISSASS MIDDLE MANAGER WE PUT IN CHARGE
>microsoft looks at profit margin
>wow we need to spend lets buy a company
>dump millions on studio....
>took one look down the hallway at Odyssey and shut that shit down immediately
That'd be a first. Until now Spencer has had an infuriating hands-off management approach where he takes the biggest paycheck and does literally nothing in return, it's how Redfall got all the way to being released.
Maybe Phil learned from his mistakes? Doubt it.
He's been dooming in interviews lately; maybe he's actually slapping the xcawx onto his studios lunch trays now.
Phil said in a leaked email baldurs gate 3 was a b-rate game and didn't care if sony got it as a console exclusive while bragging about starfield changing gaming.
He is a complete moron.
Why would Microsoft save blizzard they just came bundled with activision and king.
Preasu undestandu smarr company
>do nothing
>win
valheim devs laughing atop their high horse
zombie company
GOOD MORNING SIRS
ah is this the dreaded "AI" that is replacing the workers
So that's why Samwise left.
JUST MAKE A FRICKING SHOOTER, TPS OR FPS SET IN THE STAR CRAFT WORLD. THAT'S IT. THAT'S FRICKING IT. USE WHATEVER YOU USED FROM NOVA AS A BASIC OUTLINE BUT DEVELOP IT BETTER THIS TIME. WHY IS THIS SO HARD? I GET RTS GAMES ARE NOT A BIG THING THESE DAYS BUT THERE IS NO REASON WHY T HEY CAN'T USE THEIR STAR CRAFT IP IN OTHER WAYS. ASS
>world of starcraft
No.
I don't want a MMO and didn't suggest one but shooters are still a popular genre and the Star Craft world is interesting narrative wise. But it doesn't have to be shooters they can literally do anything with that world.
and a rpg in warcraft universe. Actually they could do a third person rpg and a CRPG
starcraft ghost underage
you think thats what you want but its not. what would it be? some linear story fps? nobody wants to play those these days
Mogged by some Japanese Indie devs making a Pokemon clone, top kek.
>blizzard making a game bad enough for Phil to can it
Just how bad was it? Even redfall made it to release.
as bad as scalebound
most likely not much beyond concept art and a skeleton of an alpha if they were willing to cancel it
very likely it was never even meant to exist in a meaningful way. the way they announced it came off entirely as a ham-handed way to satisfy their investors, and they likely never put in anything more than a token effort to develop it to avoid lawsuits
>Blizzshit
>Another fricking survival game
>A Blizzard MMO survival game
Oh nooooo
Hey morons this game was never supposed to be a mmo, it was not announced as one, the only person who is saying this is the OP you gullible morons
>we cancelled something that we never showed before!
lol
lmao even
Phil is never wrong when he sees a shitty game, that's why he said Starfield would never be a 10/10 game.
Good, frick those troons
>be Microsoft
>be one of the biggest tech companies in the world
>3000 billion net worth
>need to sack thousand of devs and cancel games
gotta show shareholders you're making money anon
They need to get rid of Phil.
>need to sack thousand of devs
that's normal when buying other companies, you don't keep all the redundant execs, and you don't keep the lazy ass frickers that were only there because of internal friendships
I have been part of 2 hostile takeovers and yes this is what always happens. The company being taken over presents its buttcheeks to the bigger company and gets ass fricked and loses half their staff
This wasnt a hostile takeover. Well, other than MS stirring all those old sex scandals to pressure a sale, but that is not the point, ok?
>hostile takeover
It doesn't matter the takeover did if you want to start semantics. Hostile, voluntary there results are the same. There will always be redundancy and waste to cut.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE DIVERSITY ADVISORS, COMMUNITY MANAGERS, AND HR DEPARTMENTS!
Xbox is unironically insignificant in the eyes of MS, meanwhile MS only really wants to win the AI race
>Buy company
>Notice company had a lot of middle management that was simply a series of meaningless promotions to make people feel good
>Lay off a bunch of said employees and the teams they "manage" because they literally do nothing for the company
This isn't rocket science anon, it's business. If someone is worthless at a company, they don't get to hang out and just collect a paycheck unless they can go undetected forever
Blizzard's in it's death throes.
all the talent left blizzard already anyway
Ybarra was cancer who loved all of the degenerate bullshit that took over WoW. He even sold m+ and GDKP runs
so all blizzard is doing now is maintenance mode on wow, diablo and overwatch, no new games ever
was it worth spending 69 billion for that
They bought Activision for COD and Candy Crush, they dont give a shit about Blizzard
Blizzard as a developer has no value. They'll farm our starcraft 3 to one of their other studios.
Maybe they'll finally do something about m+ and the WOW token now that Mike "I sell carries" is out. M+ is one of the last vestiges of trash game design added in Legion that has been suffocating WOW for a decade
good
put everything blizzard related on lifesupport and make wow so pay2win and obnoxious that every single person still playing it kills themselves
current nublizzard is a hack so nothing of value was lost
>blizzard tries to do a valve and slowly cook a garbage idea only to cancel it 80% of the way to completion (many such cases)
nothing of value was lost. Survival shit is garbage. Another mmo is also a fricking moronic idea because they cannibalise their own market.
>1900 employees layed off
I suspect nothing of note will change. Clean up the bureaucratic bullshit and woko haram positions.
Remember that time Elon Musk fired 75% of Twitter and literally nothing changed except Twitter regained a bit of freedom of speech?
Makes you think
Twitter is absolutely overran by AI garbage shit and every major account's replies are just full of Africans engagement farming and bots
It was like this before Elon took over though.
It absolutely was not, Elon made it so you now get paid as a blue checkmark based on how many interactions you get. So now for Africans it's literally a way to earn a living
I used to be able to look at the replies from my sports teams and see people discussing things like a new signing. Now it's 100 Africans saying "Great" "ok" on repeat
It absolutely was. The methods changed since Chat GPT is now a thing but Twitter always has an iss with people using bots for engagement.
>Elon made it so you now get paid as a blue checkmark based on how many interactions you get.
I will take that over having to pay some shady guy 10k and being one of the few with approved opinions to get that checkmark any day.
>I used to be able to look at the replies from my sports teams and see people discussing things like a new signing. Now it's 100 Africans saying "Great" "ok" on repeat
Like I said botting was always an issue the tactics just changed.
This was during the pre-Elon era:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-bot-scandal-puts-further-231911485.html
You're just gaslighting now, replies to big tweets did not look like this prior to Elon:
You are backtracking now. The issue was botting. That existed before even when twitter had 75% more staff.
>You are backtracking now
Except i'm not, I said
>Twitter is absolutely overran by AI garbage shit and every major account's replies are just full of Africans engagement farming and bots
Which is absolutely true even if you refuse to acknowledge it
Except you are
>Twitter is absolutely overran by AI garbage shit and every major account's replies are just full of Africans engagement farming and bots
This was an issue that existed before, the methods were just different.
The fact that you refuse to acknowledge botting was an issue before shows that this is 100% political in nature. You could easily say bots were an issue now and before but you want to tie this specially to Elon.
>boring
Ah so you are a leftist. only leftist homosexuals use that empty insult "boring" when they have no other insult to label something with. I knew it.
Yeah bro replies to all of Nintendo's tweets totally used to look like this, not a problem at all
Yea bro bots were never an issue it's just the guys whose politics I hate that invented it
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-bot-scandal-puts-further-231911485.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/twitters-ceo-admitted-the-platform-is-broken-and-is-asking-for-help.html
https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/pressure-grows-on-twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-amid-twitter-bot-scandal-14050935
I don't care about politics you absolute schizo, I care about how it's now impossible to actually discuss sports or video games on there because of interaction farming being so lucrative
>don't care about politics
Yea bullshit which is why you immediately jumped on attacking Twitter for an issue that was there before Elon came aboard.
> I care about how it's now impossible to actually discuss sports or video games on there because of interaction farming being so lucrative
Before Twitter chances were high that the person you were "discussing" sports with wasn't real based on how many bots there were
This might be world shattering for boring c**ts like you, but not everybody gives a shit about politics, some people have actual hobbies.
Twitter is a garbage dump now bro, it's 95% GPT bots.
>and literally nothing changed
>now
>now
>now
Are you drunk? The bot situations is 10 times worse nowadays
Even with a small account I get multiple thot bot accounts following me every day, and I get random bot comments even when I'm replying to other small friend accounts.
It never happened before.
And even outside that
>"for you" tab forced on the very front, and it's just a bunch a blue check accounts trying to bait and generate as much angry replies as possible since now they get paid for it
>absolutely moronic re-branding nobody with a brain will ever follow
>can't even DM people half the time because it requires a blue check verification
No wonder this shit lost 80% of its value and it's falling more.
all I see in this post is a useful idiot for the intelligence agencies that want Twitter shut down so they can censor stories like the Hunter Biden laptop again
>amerimutt politics immediately mentioned
Holy shit, who the frick cares.
I always stayed away from political and social discourse on twitter because it will be always be just a shitshow due to the very structure of the website
All I know is that I've been using twitter for a few years, mainly to follow some internet friends, vidya news and artists, and my experience is objectively shittier now
That's my own fricking experience, regardless of how much people try to gaslight
It's not worse at all the tactics just changed. Pre Musk almost every major tweet had bait replies for engagement meant to annoy you because that would help your metrics. It has since changed.
flushit the shit is good for the company
I bet you there are people at Blizzard who have been there for years and haven't done anything outside attend meetings and answer emails. They have so much fricking waste compared to the amount of games they are working on its insane. In fact this layoff number is low it really should be 3 times that
the d4 team alone is supposedly 9k devs.
Cool more resources for Blizzard to put in their only worth game
hearthstone
diablo 4 next
Great now they can make WoW2 instead of wasting resources on another survival crafting game for morons.
meanwhile phil spencer's busting into the pocketpair office like the koolaid man and trying to buy them up
Imagine thinking a dumbass westoid company like Blizzard can make kino like Palworld. Phil is right. He should just give up and only hire asian companies
Another studio under the ground thanks to Microsoft but in this case I am happy since I called it even before the merger lmao what a bunch of autistic morons
It wasn't a mmo
>check
>people getting laid off are all community managers and similar non-job bullshit
Good! Their salaries can go into game development
>Their salaries can go into game development
yea because that's what's going to happen lmao
it actually is, companies are going to have to actually get productive in the coming years and won't have the funds to waste on useless garbage, IE DEI and the like
Or they will die
no they won't fricktard your country won't have much saying power in the world anymore after your elections.
I mean mass layoffs are already happening but sure, companies aren't going to focus on productivity. Okay.
Yes, that's the reason you do these kind of layoffs, in order to refocus funds on the important shit.
how fricking lucky you have to be to sniff your own farts for 6 years making a game that will never release
What's shocking to me is that they had nothing to show except some very early concept art
Nothing at Blizzcon. Not a trailer. Or some screenshots
Literally nothing. Was it even a project in the first place?
>owner that doesnt want to fund anything or take any chances but expects ginormous returns
>developer that doesnt want to work and has been propped up by sunk-cost fanbase for over a decade
its like a match made in hell
Get to work, Klobrille.
Looks like he's calling Xbox and Microsoft management out for this.
Makes a change from other companies' fanboys who would gargle Sony/Nintendo's balls if they did layoffs.
Overwatch was originally supposed to be an MMO.
now, even with 5 years of live service, it still can't produce a scrap of lore or new content.
i think these Blizzard MMO projects are just an office full of devs collecting a paycheck for sitting around eating chicken nuggets and doing fricking nothing for years on end.
>i think these Blizzard MMO projects are just an office full of devs collecting a paycheck for sitting around eating chicken nuggets and doing fricking nothing for years on end.
That did happen. They would get fricking wasted too.
it's ironic because a lot of studios most notably 3D realms and Valve didn't work on games much for a time because they were all playing WoW in the office.
>people are claiming twitter wasn't full of bots before elon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>let's conveniently forget the fact the ceo didn't want to show that bots were not rampant
didn't read the article except for the ''didn't want to prove btos were less than 5% part'' but it's obvious bots were rampant
go back to twitter you looney troons
this article cuz I'm dunmb
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/17/elon-musk-twitter-deal-bot-tesla
REMEMBER A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN COMPANIES SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO LAYOFFS TO REPLACE A LOT OF THEIR WORKFORCE WITH AI?
CONNECT THE FRICKING DOTS.
At least Microsoft killed the right company for once.