Why are they so rare in fantasy media while other animalfolk, like catfolk, cowfolk or ratfolk for example, are fairly common?
There's the legend about circe the sorceress as a mythical origin so one would think /tg/ authors would be more eager to incorporate them into their worlds.
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Some people associate them with orcs or boarfolks are stereotyped as unable to hold any civilization or settlement. That or writers dont want to invite people
who have....special interest in the concept of a 300lb boar dad barbarian (which means they are missing out on some big money).
I have boarmen, porcs and regular tolkienian orcs all in the same setting because why the frick not.
Tell me about your boar dudes. Do they come in bara sizes?
Go away.
I dunno. Warmahordes had the Farrow, who were a bunch of mercenary pigmen pushed out into the badlands after humans made a deal with the not!devil to get magic. They were raiders and war criminals and pretty fun overall, tbh.
They make for good Mexican Bandito standins if you want a Western themed campaign in the Eastern desert.
Putting Not-Slavland to the west and the vaguely US Southwest type desert to the East but then having the crazy Godless-Theocracy even further east is confusing.
I love the bandito Farrows,they are more deep than they seem at first glance and I love they magic works, I ripped them wholesally for my setting (having more fungi magic and a lot more "deformed" offspring apart of the big boars) tough they are a minor species (localized in a few zones, the pc only have found them once).
That's pretty great. Your setting got the boomsticks for em or more general fantasy?
More general, they have crossbows and some "wands" than hanve fungi spells (entrapment, basic atack, paralisis etc)
Didn't realize
had fungal theming, good to know as
literally live and breath the stuff. The
"wands" are fruiting bodies bred to spew narrow-cone spore-clouds only when triggered?
Also any suggestions for primitive firearms wielded by clumsy trotter-hands? I feel like the conditions which favour ubiquitous fungi might also clash with those needed for usable powder caches too.
I don't include boars because boars are terrifying enough on their own I don't want to dilute their primal ferocity with sapience and tool-use.
Pig-people would probably be more like us than any other non-ape uplifts, the savagery of orcs is mostly humanity without civility.
True yet there's horror in the notion of farming an incredibly smart animal for meat whose flesh also smells like yours as it chars. Add GMd transspecific organ donor traits for further uncanny valley unease.
One becomes the other left unattended. Seeing domestication physically vanish within a single lifetime's metal, yet another reason why pig-orcs as atavist savages work so well.
Nah. The horror of boarmen is watching THEM roast a human like we would a pig.
Why would they roast them when raw meat tastes much better.
They love the smell and the crisping sounds
The world's full of monsters that make us scared when we're powerless and fill us with righteous bloodlust when the table turns. Recognising ourself in an uncanny valley way may not be terror but it's definitely lasting horror. Perhaps a sort of dread?
Not that base savagery doesn't have charm of its own of course.
Some swine went hog wild on you I take it? My deepest condolences.
Orcs exist
Those aren't really the same thing
Anyone who's had to deal with wild hogs in the states would kindly like to disagree. Preferably while hog hunting.
Because they're just orcs. X-folx are cringe anyways
Walter Moers had a good take on them.
Walter Moers has a good take on everything.
true dat
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not a lie
Dragon quest orcs are at your service.
There are lots of pig enemies in video games
pigs and boars are two very different things
Your definiteon of "very" seems rather narrow to me.
Are dogfolk and wolffolk the same thing to you aswell? Have you ever encountered a wild boar in a forest? At the very latest when a female boar protecting it's young fricks you up beyond recognition you'll get the difference. Just like you eat pigs, a boar will eat you. Also those thing will get much bigger than urban kids like yourself will assume them to. They are the very definition of a beast.
That's a beautiful animal right there. Makes me sad how often they end up being the subject of killing with no other purpose other than to make a picture with their dead bodies afterwords.
Frick hunters.
I get your point but I doubt this guy just left them lying there. From an economic point of view that would be pretty moronic even if you don't care for the animal going to waste. The skull of one of those things alone will fetch a solid price (I know this because I own one) and for the flesh you'll get considerably more.
Truly wild and at that size it's probably picked up a few parasites, the US is MOSTLY free of Triginosis but the wild's uncertain plus it can eat a lot of nasty slop.
>the subject of killing with no other purpose other than to make a picture
That's more justification than a boar needs to try and kill a person.
Depends on the boar but if it's not insane it won't attack a human just for fun. They attack either to protect their breed or themselves if you get to close to them without them noticing you for example. While it's not a good idea to surprise one, the'll normally just ignore you or go away if they smell you and you're not acting like an idot.
Yeah no. Boars are enormously aggressive, and you should not be telling people misinformation that will get them grievously injured or killed.
nobody is doing that anon. you don't really seem to know what you are talking about though
So you're a vegetarian/vegan I assume? Because those animals had a much better life then the ones you'll get from your local supermarket.
These are often hunted for meat. I used to hunt them. If you catch a big one of course you take a photo with it and feel proud. We still ate them.
There's also a license to hunt them in some regions or else they overbreed and eat all their food. Then they starve, so it's actually a kindness. In nature, animals hunt each other, it's not like we're unleashing something unnatural into the ecosystem. We're just doing what animals have always done. And a bullet is much more humane than a wolfpack.
Don't knock hunters my dude 🙂
Killing boars that size is a public service if anything. It doesn't even matter if they get eaten at that point (they will be eaten) because they're invasive as frick and attack everything around them. Boars that size are a danger to all living things. Furthermore, I find it funny that you think anybody would let their FREE MONEY just rot in the woods and spread disease, and NOT eat it or sell it.
See above. Boars will attack you just for existing. Go try and make friends with a boar, it will eviscerate you for fun from over 50 feet away. There's a reason in some states hogs are the one animal there is no kill limit on. They're aggressive, breed like crazy, are cunning, and eat almost anything.
And this is why boarfolk are the perfect fantasy antagonist. Ruthless, opportunistic, and violent. They also taste great, so you don't feel as bad for eating them.
>Go try and make friends with a boar
Yeah, nobody said that this would be a good idea
>it will eviscerate you for fun from over 50 feet away.
I guess that's possible but seems to me like relatively atypical behavior. I had an encounter with a pretty big one when I walked out of a forest and stepped onto a path at night once. I had no lights on me or anything. It just stood there on the way, at most four meters away from me, it grunted but it didn't seem overly upset about me. I didn't see much more than it's silhouette, besides it being a fairly moonlit night. I'd estimate it was between 1,40 and 1,60 meters in height. After the first shock I backed up as slowly as possible while keeping my eyes on it. Since it didn't really seemed to care much about me after a while I switched into regular backwards walking speed but didn't start running or looking away. I suppose this could have gone wrong especially in spring but I either got lucky or handled the situation intutively correct. This wasn't the only instance I encountered boars since I've been living near different woods all my life but normally I just saw them from a distance running away or from the insde of a car. Sure this is just anecdotal evidence but from my experience they mostly just want to be left alone and don't actively go for trouble with humans.
Shit take.
Boars are literal pests
I am not saying they are the same. I'm saying they are not "very" different. Heck, by my definition everything that belongs to one suborder is barely "very" different, so pigs are not that different from whales.
And funny you've mentioned it, but yes, in my setting dogfolk and wolffolk are the same thing. That has different reasons to be that way though.
Well I beg to differ but there's no real point in arguing semantics
Well, kind of true, I guess, but that leaves the question if stuff like picrel beongs into this thread.
Also, figuring out how other people may look onto the question, perhaps, some pigfolk here and there can be boarfolk along the way.
My setting uses them interchangeably as the Orcs of the world. The bristle hided ones of the wild are tribal, and depending on where they hail from ravenous enough to attack settlements just for food and supplies without provocation. Those that settle among other races for long periods of time soften up, trading lean muscle for a bit of fat, and their bristle hide recedes. A few years back in the wild on their own and any 'domesticated' Orc would start to regrow their thick hide same as a domesticated pig does should it survive once let loose in the wild.
>has elves and humans
>can't fathom that pigs and boars are extremely different
>can't fathom that dogs and wolves are extremely different
Ask me how I know you're too young to post here.
>has elves and humans
Alright, bait is bait, but where did that part come from? I did not mention neither elves nor humans in my post.
Just the typical strawman. This people really believe they're vey original for including anthropomorphic animals, the oldest and most overused of narrative tools.
>I did not mention neither elves nor humans in my post.
And yet we both know it's still true, you hypocrite.
>it's still true
lol, nope
Missed, loser
Cool, so you're dishonest as well as a hypocrite. Sad that even on an anonymous board your ego is that fragile.
>you have elves
>lolwut
>we still know you have elves
>nope, I don't
>you're dishonest as well as a hypocrite
...what?
You're still going to play pretend. Damn, it must suck being you.
Ah, I think I get it. You insist that I have elves.
Well, alright.
But thing is... I don't. I've do have Star Wars races - Twi'lek, Sith and whoever else - and I've combed them all as subtypes of humans.
As I'm saying, for me the difference is really not that big, so you should try another approach.
Thanks for bumping the thread though.
But then you have pig people. Gammoreans to start and a couple other porcine species besides.
...will it be really, really surprising to you if I've told you I have them as kind of human mutants as well?
And that's precisecly why I combine pigs and boars and whatever else.
As I've mentioned in
>in my setting dogfolk and wolffolk are the same thing. That has different reasons to be that way though.
The reasons they are one and the same in my setting is because they all have human at their base rather than an animal.
>I forced every Star Wars race to descend from humans
>so now I'm right that pigs and boars are the same!
Fricking hell, if I knew you were going to descend so far into cope just to try to avoid being proven a hypocrite, I would've brought snacks.
Whatever, man. I just wonder what makes you seethe so hard. I've never wanted to prove that pigs and boars are the same, I've just said boars and pigs are not that different in my opinion somewhere up there.
>n-no, you're seething!!1!
>I didn't say they were the same, I said they were the same!!1!
You get better and better
No, really, why?
All pigs/boars in North America are invasive, they got brought over by settlers from Europe and have been fricking over local wildlife ever since. It is the duty, both moral and delicious, of everyone who gives a damn about the environment or our wild areas, to render them exctinct across the continent. In many areas it's open season on them all year long, and zero restrictions on how you do it. You want to fly a chopper over a herd while six guys in the back unload a collection of assault rifles on the frickers? You go right ahead, and if there's more meat than you can all carry home, just donate it to some sort of food charity and you can probably write off all your taxes for the year.
And some humans are massive brutes while others are manlet gays. Pigs and hogs can breed, so do dogs and wolves. If they're barbarians or warriors they're hogs and wolves. If they're puny city beastfolk or slaves they're pigs and dogs.
Couldn't really believe hearing/seeing pics of how huge they are before I saw a pack myself. Jesus frick, some of them were like half the height of concrete fence they were standing next to.
That's close to bear-sized, isn't it? To think those things just casually walk around at night.
In fact they can get bigger than most bear species
pic related
>most bear species
I don't think anyone takes species smaller than black bears seriously, tho.
black bears included
>wolffolk
How would you mechanically differentiate them from boarfolk? Faster, but more fragile? Something like hit&run skirmisher vs heavy infantry?
Yeah pretty much this mechanically speaking. Also more focus on pack tactics
>a literal wolfpack comes at night and just singles out boars to shred to pieces due to superior senses, speed and coordination.
No wonder wolves were feared in middle ages.
And yet, our ancestors took something like what
posted, and turned it into pic related through enough generations of selective breeding.
And they revert back to
after only a few generations.
Generations? They can revert partway in a single lifetime.
It's like a hormonal response, not epigenetics.
citation needed
I want to say it's because in western Europe, boars were held as symbols of strength for a few thousand years, made their way into heraldry, and were regarded as worthy prey for high society hunters. It's just a guess, but I'd say they were too commonly highly regarded in the cultural zeitgeist, and wolves were held in a common regard, but eastern Europeans diluted it with a general hatred, and the introduction of their legends around the turn of the century proved just enough to lump them in with other animals that were hybridised for Western fantasy.
>but eastern Europeans diluted it with a general hatred
Don't know about boars, but you cannot blame eastern europeans for wolves. Wolves were always held in high regard in eastern europe.
Wolves were linked with the devil in western Europe and exterminated like a pest.
>There's the legend about circe the sorceress
There are also quite a few adaptions of the beauty an the beast where the beast is just a boar in victorian era clothing
>letmeexplainthehustonastrosandbasketball.jpg
Curious regarding less-humanoid porcines: compared to dogs or cats say, how much closer are trotters to being a crude grasping appendage? I'd guess that the outer/smaller two toes being behind the fore ones might help. Also (though I know tapirs are closer to horses or rhinos) is all the necessary muscle there for the snout to be extended into a little trunk? then again that'd make it worse as a rooting spade so they'd not move to dexterous nostrils until the trotters could take over digging duties.
Anyone else prefer animalfolk which lean more heavily on animal than folk?
>I'd guess that the outer/smaller two toes being behind the fore ones might help.
Aren't those just dewclaws? Cats and dogs have them too, so I guess they are equal in this particular area.
I particularly like the picrel, because it shows a more developed dewclaw used to hold a stick, while the rest of the paw is still a canine paw that cannot hold anything.
True enough, I'd hoped that having two of them might help with grip given they're individually almost vestigial. Could be that the great cleft between foretoes could be adapted too as the digits to either side are stronger and the gripping surfaces larger than intertoe space of cats or dogs.
Hands? We need to go porker. Also tbf if is decryably furry then your dude falls afoul of
.
Neat, reckon I'll steal and twist it. The Feral/domestic divide's deeply important to the racial psyche as is self-disciplined control over it. As self-sharpening tusks make for ad hoc shears (and males smear spittle as part of courting) shaved bristle patterns could be bond affirmation, self-expression and/or imposed markings. In the latter case scarification which ensures areas stay bald could be neat (the fact they scar like humanity's another uncanny valley hint of their past as chimeric transplant fodder).
Scarring habits for ritual markings is part of one of the Orc cultures for my setting as well, actually.
>if
>I'd guess that the outer/smaller two toes being behind the fore ones might help.
Aren't those just dewclaws? Cats and dogs have them too, so I guess they are equal in this particular area.
I particularly like the picrel, because it shows a more developed dewclaw used to hold a stick, while the rest of the paw is still a canine paw that cannot hold anything. (You) is decryably furry
Dude : (
It is as far from furry as possible.
It is drawn by Rene Campbell from renecampbellart.com
She usually draws other stuff, just happened to draw a lot of pokemon at some point.
Anyway, may as well put my cards on the table. Gotta kind of "humanity's aftermath" fantasy uplift concept where the main races are the smartest guys around left largely beast-form and supplemented by magic insofar as their bauplans rule out civilisation.
The main players are apes, elephants, corvids and parrots with dolphins occupied warring on octopi beneath the waves. Wasn't sure what to do with other assorted smart species like rats, eusocial insects, jumping spiders, dogs and pigs so the latter two I ended up combining for mostly thematic reasons. Basically dogs are man's best friend while pigs are both human-like (baconflesh-smelling smart omnivores) and made more so by active efforts (for transplant's sake in pigs and communication's in dogs).
Mostly I liked the image of hunched barely uplifted pig-orc barbarians wearing pickelhaubes and the term "swinehund" came to mind.
"If" was for illustrating inconsistency, it's all fine with me. I wouldn't worry.
>"If" was for illustrating inconsistency
Ah, I get it now. Sorry, english is not my first language.
>Gotta kind of "humanity's aftermath" fantasy uplift concept
Sounds kinda like After The Bomb. Which reminds me - I bet those books have boarfolk. Those books have all kinds of folk.
Will try to check for something interesting when I'll get home, but gotta leave for now.
Thanks for the input, I'll check it out. The Children of Time series is excellent uplift fiction btw should you have time to have a look.
Not anyhow soon, but I'll write it down.
What board? /vp/? I dread that place. Only visited it once and will not come back there, never.
Also, stop being a homosexual.
>What board? /vp/? I dread that place.
Well /tg/ isn't your substitute.
It is. Cry about it.
At least now you're showing your true colors.
Not really. Just wanna see you seethe.
And derail the thread while you're at it huh?
Judging by your behavior you'll perfectly blend in with these guys >>>/vp/
Your "dreading" is just self-hatred because you can't stand being among your own kind
>I just wanna see you seethe.
>/tg/ is my substitute for /vp/
>No you're the one derailing!
sure, bud
I mean, you're right here continuing to post off-topic about a grievance you declared matters. I don't see how that can prove your point.
...ah, unless you're trolling. Oh well.
I'm wondering what other overlaps and synergies there are I could play with. Pig trufflelust, cordyceps and psilocybin growing in cowpats might be useable. As just-barely-sapients they may be dependent on fungal highs to kick their brains up a notch. In fact given the themes of ambiguously abusive relationship with humanity the hallucinations could take the form of a bicameral mind where the master/farmhand/surgeon "human" superego whips the drove into a frenzy. Mordor with and without Sauron-like.
Also makes them more of a threat and is a sly not to WH orcs if they "psychoform" the landscape with their shroom-growing filth. Even crops grown there would sprout heavy with ergot. Not sure how to tie it back to dogs though, maybe something like super-rabid nomad berzerkers as an alternative culture.
You're the one actively derailing things. The first pic was to illustrate a point made about dewclaws in answer to my question. Everything that follows is you.
>Everything that follows is you.
Well, aside from the scyther, and that was entirely my fault, truth be told. And I'm sorry for that.
Anyway, I've desided to do a search in After The Bomb myself, since I still have a little time left, and - of course - they have boars (separately from pigs, by the way).
Picrel is from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles RPG which pretty much started the whole After The Bomb thing.
If you will go for After The Bomb, my favorite book setting-wise would be Book 5 - Mutants in Avalon.
Also...
>True enough, I'd hoped that having two of them might help with grip given they're individually almost vestigial. Could be that the great cleft between foretoes could be adapted too as the digits to either side are stronger and the gripping surfaces larger than intertoe space of cats or dogs.
I gave a thought to this, and yes, I guess boars would have an advantage of the cleft between foretoes. As for having to of dewclaws, it is a known mutation in dogs and cats as well to have two of them, and since mutations are pretty much just steps in evolution, you can easily apply double dewclaws to the dog- or catfolk, so I wouldn't write that as a definite advantage.
The cleft though... is a good point. I even have idea, but failed to find any artwork to illustrate.
That's alright, it appears that pigfolk are as unpopular a topic in art as they are in setting books. Also as I mentioned since the uplifts i have in mind are chimeric the fact dogs can mutate into an extra claw's handy, perhaps if trotters could converge on doglike digging traits I could justify a more flexible snout-tip as I'd have liked to
.
Also, to add, probably the worst point of After The Bomb is its mechanics - somehow, the games I play always have very different mechanics so I could never adapt any parts of After The Bomb without a solid re-write of things.
>Also as I mentioned since the uplifts i have in mind are chimeric
Oh, for chimeric stuff you might also want to check out various pre-historic animals, since back in the days various genuses were much more closely related. Entelodontidae family, for example, has very curious jaws.
Just search for "pre-historic predator pigs" or something like that, and that should give enough curious articles.
Yeah, entelodonts were what I had in mind. Maybe "hellpig orcs" would get me better images and if they don't then all I can say is that artists have been missing the obvious. In fact I have that foreshoulder hump in mind as to me it could suggest longer front limbs and a gorilla's gate. The problem is that for trotter-paws to remain recognisably such knucklewalking's not an option so to use their hands the barely-uplifts would have to balance on their hindquarters and work crudely with combo feet-hands.
Then again the whole point of these wretches is that they're a barely sapient horde of secondary characters so awkard and inefficient biology's not the end of the world. Another cool almost Tolkien twist occurred to me; if the distributed bicameral slavedriver is alike to the voice of Sauron then bull elephant berserkers among the horde would be like the oliphaunts. Heck, by being phenotypically flexible and somewhat canine the Swinehunds would be as much wargs as orcs!
>all I can say is that artists have been missing the obvious
As far as I can see it most artist in general are not very creative, and/or way to professional to use their skills freely.
Mandatory "if I could draw" post. I'm trying to learn, but it is hard and takes too much time.
Speaking of which...
>The cleft though... is a good point. I even have idea, but failed to find any artwork to illustrate.
Well, the only case in point I've managed to find is, sadly, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mtxh_ERVUU
Cool stuff about fungus there. Kind of reminds of those yage plants in Amazon forests. Natives use them to trip and to anchance their senses before the hunt. And, funny thing, jaguars also like tripping on the same plant. And, natives believe, they also use those plants to enchance their senses before the hunt. Or something along those lines.
Man, matter of fact I'm pretty sure I've saw this on /tg/ just several days ago.
Also, there's a game named Pugmire, and I haven't read it yet, but it has something akin to "church of a good boy" (since all the characters are dog beastfolk), and so they kinda follow those ancient human teachings or something?
As I've said, I haven't read it myself yet, albeit I plan to and I do hope to steal some of that stuff for my setting as well.
Hah, not a bad way to illustrate your point at all! Good luck on your own artistic journey, I guess that if your own arms refuse to cooperate you can always try another limb.
Think I remember the tweaker jags mentioned too, looks like I ought to have been paying more attention. Pugmire's interesting and very relevant as part of the canine stuff I'd prefer to mix in. Works well with bicameral "disassociated superego" stuff too as imagined commands from long vanished humans.
Another accidental symmetry occurs to me. Berzerkers did their thing by getting high, wearing wolfskin and sperging out; given the gradient between all-but-bald domesticate rind and hog wild bristles as well as their shroom-addict psychology it'd make sense for them too. Given the pheromone-laden froth of rutting boars irl (the stuff can induce early ovulation when smeared on young sows) there could be a contagious psychoactive element to their buildup rituals. I've already got elephant bulls who go into atavistic musth rages after all, swinehund simply need a little more priming (chemical and fashionable) and have less brains to submerge in crimson haze.
I'm a lazy hack who recycles ideas so I've just realised that these dudes fit into a few more of my settings with quite distinct themes. The really odd take'd be in the one which is to islam as the Blasphemous vidya is to christianity.
With cynocephali no stranger to medieval bestiaries having the Europeans be pig-dog-men works by combining animals derided by muslims. The pig aspect especially as by their flesh cooking like men and the beasts' intelligence there are already cannibal subtexts to their rearing for meat, to an uncharitable outsider transubstantiation looks a lot like glorifying cannibalism too. The hallucinogen dependence could still be there to an extent though with prohibitions on alcohol and preferences for flatbread in the middle east the entheogen infection could be from hyper-yeast (as much ergot as leavening and psilocybin). If they're somewhat bicameral compared to "real" people that could be used by muslim propaganda to explain why they'd mistake the oneness of god for a trinity.
The bristle-boar and fat, bald domestic pig dichotomy could also reflect that between not!Norse raiders and their prey, not sure what that'd make of the Byzantine analogues if they were still around as they'd be far too dignified for those themes. Maybe wolfish folk going back to Rum's mythic founding bred into elegant yet decadent breeds.
Please stop posting pokemon or frick off to your containment board. Thank you!
>sperging out because someone posted an image of a pokemon to illustrate a design element relevant to the discussion
Actual autism.
>Anyone else prefer animalfolk which lean more heavily on animal than folk?
yes it's the way to go.
next time put a spoiler on that.
>next time put a spoiler on that.
I swear I clicked it this time. I don't know what went wrong.
Boarfolk are rare because
>1. no mythological basis for a hybrid species, unlike e.g. werewolves
>2. public opinion holds them as dirty and ugly and not many games want to run with that for something that isn't explicitly villainous. Yes they're homosexuals but unfortunately that's how it is
>3. modern symbols of "charisma through power" are wolves, bears and dragons, city grown nerds seriously underestimate boar strength
>4. one of their peculiarities as a species is that they're kind of limited in what they can actually do. Their bodies are quite inflexible and can't even climb a tree. That's difficult to "humanize" while preserving what makes them a boar.
>That's difficult to "humanize" while preserving what makes them a boar.
Expand your thinking to include pigs, like their intelligence for instance, and include whatever myths/perceptions about them you like in addition.
>Expand your thinking to include pigs, like their intelligence for instance
Boars are on par with pigs in intelligence. What I rather mean is that the possibilities of what you can do with them, without going against what makes them boars, are kind of narrow. I guess the best you could do is some kind of underground civilization.
>no mythological basis for a hybrid species, unlike e.g. werewolves
He does not know.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/human-pig-hybrid-embryo-chimera-organs-health-science
>Boris the Pig
>not Boaris
you had one job
>MYTHOLOGICAL basis
Also that's not a half man half pig, that's a full pig with some human genes so it doesn't trigger the immune system.
I include Pigs in my setting at least
Sometimes Adventurers unfamiliar with Pigfolk because they're not from the area will kill them under the belief that the Pigfolk were Orcs, Orcs look like Pig people in my setting
Other times people who just wanna kill will kill innocent Pigfolk and claim they thought they were Orcs
I guess you could say that Boarfolk catch the same heat since they look mildly more feral than Pigfolk, like a sorta in between them and Orcs
I like it when there are peaceful beastman and dangerous beastman - and other people end up not recognizing the differences between the two.
But it's good it is not used more often. At least something in my setting that I can pitch as somewhat unique.
peaceful beastmen and dangerous beastmen*
Quickfix.
Pig people are breddy gud.
I do have them in my setting. They are excellent truffle hunters and rather peaceful if left unbothered despite their bad rep.
Because real fantasy doesn't dabble with uninspired, soul-sappingly boring Disney bullshit like a thousand variety of animal people with different heads.
Real fantasy isn't so divorced from the culture that inspired it that it needs to give boars arms and legs to make them "fantastic."
>Real fantasy
The infamous black light.
Yeah, instead it deals in the even more uninspired humans but with superficial differences. Animal people are usually boring too, but at least they are more interesting to look at and kill.
how boaring
CARLOS YOU INSOLENT BEANER
I have boars in my setting, they have a culture that's a mix between highlander and celtic
I like to hear more! We dont get enough celtic or highlander boars.
Most boars live in hills, mountains and make cities built out of stone and rock while some boars are more nomadic and take to hunting, trading, and raiding.
I make orcs boarpeople in my games. There's ignoble reasons to it that I don't think I need to go into, but also because I think it works better for them to be antagonistic if they're inhuman in the way boarpeople are, rather than green-skinned romance novel cover models who've inherited the sexual tropes of black people.
This b***h lost a nipple and it didn't even leave a scar
They're boaring.
As usually, the answer is trollocs.
Fundamentally there is nothing you can do with a boar character that you could do with a human one in a thematic/narrative sense. So the reason you'd do it is because you either have boiling-over enthusiasm for the aesthetic of the boar-man, or there is symbolism or meaning to the idea of the pig-man.
In "Oink" the pigs are purpose-bred dumb labor who are supposed to remain ignorant of the world, meat for an industrial grinder.
In "Porco Rosso", the titular hero is a Pig due to him losing faith in humanity and his self-loathing.
Most of the symbolism is negative, which works if you're writing villains. Personally I use the pig as a symbol of ugly, utilitarian survival and practicality, and they're good guys.
*That you could not do as a human
Jesus
I like boars and pigs, they are cool. If my setting will have pig folks they are definetly not going to be villains. More likely the way this anon described.
Jerk off before posting.
What if he did?
He should probably do it again.
And then again, until his mind is clear.
And if his death will come before the purity of his thoughts - all the better for the humankind.
I do.
There is something uncanny about pig's face.
Because most of you gays are already pigs, so it would be putting a hat on a hat.
Let it hang, it only has so much left before the autosage.
frick off
They could be either raiders or druidic shamans.
Why not both? The earth must be watered with blood that it might bring forth fresh multitudes. The battlefield's as good a place as any to see to it that the right rites are observed and a fine opportunity to loot while you're at it.
They would be two different and distinct cultures. One is bloodthirsty, the other is more tranquil
Eh, going by the whole hormonal/epigenetic shift from pig to boar and back I'm a sucker for blurred lines.
There would be fine narrative points for blurred lines.
What sort of blurred lines?
Can you share any details about how those cultures might live?