>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE AI ART THAT'S STEALING >WTFFFF WHY ARE YOU SAYING I CAN'T STEAL YOUR ASSETS VALVE
it's stealing assets for some other game made in source 2
lol
>LEAVE THE CORPORATION ALONE!
BASED!!! We MUST keep defending valves profits no we’re not consumerist sheep because valve is the wholesome reddit company that has never operated with ill intended business practices
>it's ok to steal because the person you're stealing from is rich
kys commie
Carry on licking boots pal. Your morals are all principle and no substance. Frick your principles, I'll assess each moral case on its own and if Valve isn't going to update their FREE game on their own, what business do they have stopping someone else from doing it? None. Frick them, frick the law and frick you.
robin hood didnt steal from the rich and give to the poor, he stole from the government (the rich) and gave people (the poor) their taxes back lol
Why would you just repeat what you said? taxation is theft btw
How the frick is it stealing when tf2 is free and it's impossible know about the project without knowing who made tf2 and what tf2 is
It's like making sandwiches to feed the homeless and getting mad that someone took your recipe and is also feeding the homeless with it
Isn't Valve a company based on literally stealing a geniuses engine and company structure because you were friends with somebody that worked at his company?
On what basis would you assume that? That would require a bunch of time and effort from programmers, artists, etc. Meanwhile Valve still makes money hand over fist from TF2 while doing precisely nothing. Of course they'll shut down a project that threatens to split their customer base.
>On what basis would you assume that?
Look at Black Mesa. Valve is usually pretty good about mods, they only would do this if they're planning something themselves.
>rahjeesh made a new thread after getting BTFO by basic facts
reminder. the TF source 2 guys were already shutting down because garry updated s&box and broke the engine on them
The assets took time, money, and effort to create. There was no compensation on behalf of s@box for these costs. Therefore, time, money, and effort were stolen from Valve.
I don't expect pirates to understand the meaning of hard work and time, nor the ramifications of stealing the direct product of these resources
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>NOOOOO You can't heckin' use assets from our 17 year old free to play game that we haven't updated in years >Oh What's this? A fan made HD model pack for Half Life? I'll be taking that without asking
>when CSGO was being fan made in Source2: yo can you chill and stop making this? Ok
Valve knows they can't just tell TF2 autists and trannies to stop so they had to DMCA
Kind of uncharacteristic of Valve since their whole thing was making mods and creators should make mods. I wonder why they would change their attitude so.
Here's the final commit version (61d225e) of Portal64 before the israelites at Valve struck for anyone that wants it
https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64
morons think the lesson here is stop working on others ideas.
The real lesson is don't open yourself up for this happen in the first place. Like what happened with AM2R. If this happened to me I would """comply""" but then make an new website and work on it in the background as a fan (and try to obfuscate myself by working on it in cafes). They hit me again I go to an onions link.
Companies go for easy pickings. A website/github is so easy to take down. But they see groups of autistics working on something that provides exactly zero business value (I know I know Gabe, somehow is really needed for business operations) they're gonna realize that they have better shit to be doing and you know, do them, instead of taking down Portal64.
I would do it out of spite. S P I T E.
Portal64 used libultra, which is owned by Nintendo, meaning Valve can’t have any involvement with the project (which they would need to have, as it contains their copyrighted content as well).
>someone makes a roblox clone >someone else rips TF2 assets wholesale to make a game inside that roblox game >valve doesn't like their copyright being abused for a game they have nothing to do with
The real question is why do they need Valve's assets to make a TF2 clone instead of making their own
Garry Newman's shitty gmod successor is basically trying to be Roblox
He turned down Valve when they offered him to work together on it but now decided to use Source 2 anyway, except he doesn't have any license to use any of Valve's assets, so they wont let it fly if people try to rip off their old game wholesale to include them in s&box.
That's the whole reason for this DMCA copyright claim.
Garry Newman's shitty gmod successor is basically trying to be Roblox
He turned down Valve when they offered him to work together on it but now decided to use Source 2 anyway, except he doesn't have any license to use any of Valve's assets, so they wont let it fly if people try to rip off their old game wholesale to include them in s&box.
That's the whole reason for this DMCA copyright claim.
Oh and they were most likely going to profit off of it as well
>https://sbox.facepunch.com/faq/
>One of our biggest failings in Garry's Mod was not allowing the community to fund itself. People made a living out of selling Garry's Mod addons but it was a lot harder than it should have been.
>This is something I really want to address in s&box. I don't totally know how that looks right now. There's a few different choices..
>Allow games to have microtransactions - turns into a shit show fast >Allow unlocking/buying games - puts players off playing if they have to pay for >Allow tips/donations - might work if done right >Split a percentage of sales to top played games/addons/maps every month - might work if done right >Allow selling games standalone on Steam - attractive, maybe hard work, need Valve's permission
Here's the final commit version (61d225e) of Portal64 before the israelites at Valve struck for anyone that wants it
https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64
morons think the lesson here is stop working on others ideas.
The real lesson is don't open yourself up for this happen in the first place. Like what happened with AM2R. If this happened to me I would """comply""" but then make an new website and work on it in the background as a fan (and try to obfuscate myself by working on it in cafes). They hit me again I go to an onions link.
Companies go for easy pickings. A website/github is so easy to take down. But they see groups of autistics working on something that provides exactly zero business value (I know I know Gabe, somehow is really needed for business operations) they're gonna realize that they have better shit to be doing and you know, do them, instead of taking down Portal64.
I would do it out of spite. S P I T E.
Github is an open and transparent way of coders to work together on project. it makes a lot of sense given the codebase and userbase of such a site to use it. Especially since you're implying they've done anything wrong in this case.
They did do something wrong. They got fricked liked a b***h after seeing project and project get off github.
Instead they should have diversified their assets, and had multiple git repositories and backups, and made an alt on their forums to post them to continue development. It isn't even hard to do, just find some sites that host git and push onto there, it takes two CLI commands.
Theoretically, instead of redistributing TF2's assets, could they not create an installer that requires you have TF2 installed and takes the assets from there in order to install the Source 2 version?
No, Valve will just find another excuse, like they did with the CS port. They're greedy israelites and just using any excuse that looks better publicly, like pretending they'd magically be liable to Nintendo for someone else using their libraries for a game Valve isn't at all involved in. It tricks the Gabe worshipping morons but not anyone with more than 80 IQ
Valve shut down the CS port despite it needing user provided assets exactly like you suggested, moron. They're just making publicly acceptable excuses to save their image as they go after fan projects.
Its a dead game, they refuse to update it despite the obvious passion from the community, and its free. Its indefensible, the only reason they are killing this is because they want to keep making money off of community made hats while doing nothing forever. Its no different than nintendo DMCAing smash mods.
doesn't change how the law works. valve can gives it blessing to or tell any project like this to stop as it likes, no amount of crying will change that
Hit the nail on the head. TF2 is a cash cow, they don't have to put forth a single bit of effort to make money from it, they take assets made by the COMMUNITY and sell them back to it. Then as soon as that same community starts a passion project that remotely threatens this money milking operation they nix it pronto. It's indefensible.
>TF2 is a cash cow
I highly doubt that these days. If it was valve would be doing more to take care of it. It's very likely it only just makes them just enough money to justify running servers for it.
Isn't that what happened with Classic Offensive mod for CSGO? The modder keeps asking for permissions for official Source engine licensing so that he can work on the stuff and Valve never bothered to respond. I'd figure Valve are Nintendo-tier when it comes to their live service games.
Source 1 is technical ass. Maybe people want to play it with functional DPI scaling, non-hardcoded resolutions and shockingly, functional graphics options not stuck in an engine from 2004
yeah I dont get it either. if it looks the same just play the original? it still exists
Better graphics, better performance, better physics, better network optimization, physics, hit reg, etc. Source is a janky old engine designed for shit internet and shit computers, modern systems and network connections are capable of a much smoother, more accurate, and all round better feeling game.
Source is just very dated and I don't mean graphically. All its tools are ancient and make it a pain for the community to make content. Being able to use somewhat modern mapping tools alone makes it worth it.
how is Valve the bad guy here?
No one would care if they hadn't promised to fix TF2 two years ago then did nothing. It looks really fricking bad for them because they refuse to fix the game but also shut down fan efforts to revitalize it.
>when CSGO was being fan made in Source2: yo can you chill and stop making this? Ok
Valve knows they can't just tell TF2 autists and trannies to stop so they had to DMCA
Buddy they won't even update VAC or deal with the bots making the game unplayable, you think they give a frick? It's literally one guy at Valve dealing with the entire game. If it didn't make so much money they'd have shut it down and C&D'd any private servers in an attempt to force you to play one of their more profitable games.
I really like Valve's existing games but they stopped making them over 10 years ago.
funny that the person reporting on this and trying to pretend its a big deal, and also constantly makes "news" videos about how TF2 is dead because of bots, is the cause of the bot problems because he helped leak the source code
There are ways to deal with bots that don't involve coding. The easiest is making the game P2P again and charge $20, making it totally cost-prohibitive for botters to just spam them in every server. Suddenly it goes from $0 to almost $500 just to fill one server with bots. Obviously the existing accounts keep their game but all the bots will end up banned in less than a month.
they aren't the bad guy
they're just less of the super-good-guy they used to be
obviously this is unnerving because they're like 90% of pc gaming and if they go down we all go down with them
because they're stopping the community from updating something that they refuse to update themselves. the same community that makes all the stuff they steal and sell as their own.
its literally their own game though. This is not a mod like CS was for example
i find the tf2 port to source 2 takedown baffling by valve standards
but the portal N64 thing makes sense to me.
that mod could potentially cause them issues with nintendo, and better to just C&D them than deal with it.
but yeah, i don't get their excuse for getting rid of the tf2 mod
>i find the tf2 port to source 2 takedown baffling by valve standards
It's not a pure port, it's a port that depends on another a paid third party game that happens to be using Source 2. If it was a Steam mod it may have been alright.
>If it was a Steam mod
If only Valve ever released SDK
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Not my problem, people have done tons of mods without SDKs for tons of games.
I'm only taking issue with people saying that "Valve has changed" when the equivalent would be mods using their assets in completely unrelated game like Titanfall just because that happens to be using Source.
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>Not my problem
how does that boot taste?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I had tons of fun playing the bunch of other community projects that weren't moronic like Entropy Zero 2, Black Mesa and the recently released Portal Reloaded so you tell me. Now go back to raging at the Capitalism Sale.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>I-I'm not a bootlicker see my valve approved projects >reggie image
should have known it was a falseflag tendie
4 months ago
Anonymous
Don't worry, I have a folder full of shrugs just for you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
keep seething tendie
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Anonymous
S&box is much more hand in hand with Valve though. It's literally the only developer outside valve who has been allowed a licensed version of source 2. There was definitely an angle where by s&box would be the face of source 2 modding. But the idea of it being the garry's mod for source 2 is definitely compromised when we can't even have valve assets in the game apparently.
because they're stopping the community from updating something that they refuse to update themselves. the same community that makes all the stuff they steal and sell as their own.
they aren't but the epic marketers need to pretend that valve is somehow obligated to let anyone and everyone use their assets for anything, and not that valve is completely in the right to give fan projects a pass or not
The problem with AI isn't just copyright its that the combination of valve not having quality standards and allowing AI will result in a flood of bad AI games. >But there's already a flood of bad games
This will make it 100x worse and if you don't believe me look at ANY website that allows AI content to be uploaded freely. All of them turn into an unending stream of AI bullshit.
While it was NEVER a bastion of high quality, even Itch.io saw a marked decline in what little quality it did have as heavily AI based games started coming in, like EXTREMELY noticeable. And it took them months to add filtering for AI games.
You'll be able to filter the games out, valve is forcing the devs to disclose AI being used, if they don't they will violate the contract that they have with steam which is not a good idea.
Portal 64 I get because they're using Nintendo architecture to run it and they're pretty sue happy about this shit. But I don't understand why they canned the sandbox port of TF2.
>Portal 64 I get because they're using Nintendo architecture to run it and they're pretty sue happy about this shit.
Except that is just a bullshit excuse to publicly save face. Nintendo can't do shit to Valve over some random unrelated persons project, they can only go after the guy doing it. This is acting like having your Camry stolen and used to rob a bank means Toyota can be sued for it.
Valve have already shown they don't want none of Nintendo by going to Nintendo and telling them about Dolphin on Steam and removing that Yuzu logo from the Steam Deck graphics.
>Valve promises Source 2 will be free to use >Radio silence after >Only give access to Garry >Garry fricks around making a Fanboy and Chum Chum game for the past six years >Valve bans people from using source assets in Garry's game which is the only way to make anything for Source 2 at the time because Alyx doesn't have a full SDK
What is their problem?
They made half an SDK and shipped it with Dota 2
I don't know if it improved when Alyx or CSGO2 were released
The probably said frick it we have better things to do than compete with the myriad of stock engines out there, which is stupid considering that there is people that would use that engine no matter how hard they would have to hack it
And also if the Dota 2 mapping community was any indication, it would attract a shit ton of people who think they need to constantly try to emali valve or try to start reddit mobs to get their attention and I can imagine they don't want any of that
>literally just repackaging their current game in a new engine >everyone losing their minds
This shit is the stupidest shit. Nobody would even try pull this with any other company, but Valve does the bare minimum to maintain their copyright and suddenly they're the evilist.
did these morons not learn anything from recompilation projects?
don't include the assets in your project and make the user provide them instead to avoid legal trouble.
>literally remake their game without their approval
every single company would be even more strict than Valve about this. You can only discuss why they arent allowing it this time around and its probably because they wanna keep their cards open with this
normally something like this goes through at least 1 person proofreading it and names of property or people are the most important thing to get right.
if this is really one of valve's lawyers then he certainly isn't worth whatever salary he's being paid with a mistake like that.
Under US law If you don't defend your copyrights you can lose it. Those sorts of projects are always depend on the eye of sauron not gazing in their direction.
I already did years ago
imagine still screaming about muh IP in current year no one cares, TF2 hasn't been relevant for many years except to autists who collects hats or some shit. doesnt make sense for a company to own "thing" including fricking digital data for upwards of 100 years.
holy shit whenever valve is the one doing something the reactions are completely backwards. if anyone else did that Ganker would be fuming but when valve does it Ganker defends it
Just kinda sad really. Other billionaires at least pretend to do good for the world. He just wastes it away on he doesn't know what to do with. Maybe he rotates the 6 of them to avoid covid
Valve Insider here. TF2 is being ported to Source 2. It's shipping with the heavy update. Also, the caber nerf will be reverted and bots will no longer be able to function. Just sit back in relax. All will be revealed in roughly one fortnight.
While Valve and any other megacorp sucks for taking down fan-projects that weren't intending on monetizing it, the people making the project are moronic as all hell >Not just making the game and then releasing it when it's finished >Noooo I have to advertise and talk about it I need twitter clout!!!
And why can't these gays just let go of these 20+ year old games they were fun while they lasted, nostalgia rotten brains
My moronic brother thought that plants were the property of the planter, not the owner of the land. The moron then planted several eucalyptus trees on land that wasn't his and then got angry that the owner of the land wouldn't let him cut the wood and sell it. He thought he was being wronged.
I see that in this thread there are several morons like my brother, lol.
imagine even trying to bad mouth valve on this Black person homosexual board, lmao, mod literally bans you for creating negative threads about his favorite corpo
>steal assets
>get a DMCA
oh no!
>LEAVE THE CORPORATION ALONE!
BASED!!! We MUST keep defending valves profits no we’re not consumerist sheep because valve is the wholesome reddit company that has never operated with ill intended business practices
Frick off commie, make something yourself instead.
"assets" are just numerical values. Preventing me from expressing those values violates the first amendment.
Carry on licking boots pal. Your morals are all principle and no substance. Frick your principles, I'll assess each moral case on its own and if Valve isn't going to update their FREE game on their own, what business do they have stopping someone else from doing it? None. Frick them, frick the law and frick you.
>it's ok to steal because the person you're stealing from is rich
kys commie
>stealing
>copy paste someone else's work to use for your own work without their permission
this is called stealing
Yes, using copyrighted assets without permission is stealing.
Not in my lawbook.
yeah well youre chinese
Uh, yes. That's LITERALLY the aesop of Robin Hood, one of the most well-known stories of all time.
robin hood didnt steal from the rich and give to the poor, he stole from the government and gave people their taxes back lol
stupid commie moron
robin hood didnt steal from the rich and give to the poor, he stole from the government (the rich) and gave people (the poor) their taxes back lol
Why would you just repeat what you said?
taxation is theft btw
How the frick is it stealing when tf2 is free and it's impossible know about the project without knowing who made tf2 and what tf2 is
It's like making sandwiches to feed the homeless and getting mad that someone took your recipe and is also feeding the homeless with it
Stealing is allowed in the US, moron.
ching chong
you never made anything
its ok when nintendo does it
But enough about AI
>Ai for me
>DMCA for them
Isn't Valve a company based on literally stealing a geniuses engine and company structure because you were friends with somebody that worked at his company?
official tf2 source 2 confirmed
Pretty much this.
On what basis would you assume that? That would require a bunch of time and effort from programmers, artists, etc. Meanwhile Valve still makes money hand over fist from TF2 while doing precisely nothing. Of course they'll shut down a project that threatens to split their customer base.
they made money from csgo doing nothing but they still ported that over to source 2
valve still made money hand over fist with CS before the source 2 version
>On what basis would you assume that?
Look at Black Mesa. Valve is usually pretty good about mods, they only would do this if they're planning something themselves.
It's pretty obvious. They ported DotA2, CS:GO and TF2 is their third biggest game.
this
anyone whining about it is an idiot
why dont they come out with this then? remaining silent is just bad publicity.
You people are genuinely fricking moronic.
can't boycott something I never took part in
steamgoys deserve it btw
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T USE AI ART THAT'S STEALING
>WTFFFF WHY ARE YOU SAYING I CAN'T STEAL YOUR ASSETS VALVE
it's stealing assets for some other game made in source 2
lol
>rahjeesh made a new thread after getting BTFO by basic facts
reminder. the TF source 2 guys were already shutting down because garry updated s&box and broke the engine on them
No. It's not stealing. It's copying something and redistributing a free thing for free.
just because something is free, doesn't mean you have the right to distribute it.
you can't just walk into a library and start throwing books out the window.
what a stupid example
you are a stupid person
get out of my house
These homies steal all the cookies when grandma says he can have one.
Like I'd break my fast for goyslop dough when I can just eat the eggs
but entry into your house was free, so now i am redistributing it and inviting all my friends over.
>moving the goal post
I can take out any book from the library, scan the pages and make a copies, and hand said copies out ANY time I want.
no?
>you can't just walk into a library and start throwing books out the window.
what if you're black?
>go to art website
>download a bunch of people's pictures
>upload it to your account
>why are you mad it was there for free
read >
>copypasting art from other people to your own gallery
>copypasting assets from another game to your own game
Who are you quoting?
>rahjeesh can't follow a basic reply chain
You're just talking to yourself. Rather than responding to the contents of my posts.
>too stupid to read
>keeps doubling down after getting BTFO
The hats and keys aren't free. Thats how they will argue.
Those are free. They're all on your system. You can wear them even. Just not on 'their' servers.
The assets took time, money, and effort to create. There was no compensation on behalf of s@box for these costs. Therefore, time, money, and effort were stolen from Valve.
I don't expect pirates to understand the meaning of hard work and time, nor the ramifications of stealing the direct product of these resources
he's part of Valve's privates?
I summon the Artifact 2.0 dude. Post the copypasta about valve and how it fricked it's fanbase plz
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>NOOOOO You can't heckin' use assets from our 17 year old free to play game that we haven't updated in years
>Oh What's this? A fan made HD model pack for Half Life? I'll be taking that without asking
>use someone else's IP
>they can decide if it lives or dies
don't like it? make your own IP
>b-b-b-b-b-but its free.....
>17 years? But this isn't about Counter Strike Sou-
>mfw
Oh that's hilarious. Look at the text on the bottom of the arm, that's the artist's signature.
Yes, they own it.
>Own land
>Some moron shows up and builds a very nice house on your land
>Legally own the land so you get the house for free
Nothing wrong here.
How about no.
>when CSGO was being fan made in Source2: yo can you chill and stop making this? Ok
Valve knows they can't just tell TF2 autists and trannies to stop so they had to DMCA
how does tf2classic work, are those assets original?
They have some moronic rule about using assets from source in source 2.
oh so its a special case, oh well don't really care about source2, its heavy anyway,
Kind of uncharacteristic of Valve since their whole thing was making mods and creators should make mods. I wonder why they would change their attitude so.
Maybe Gabe is retiring soon.
its obvious, theyre porting tf2 to source 2 themselves
>Kind of uncharacteristic of Valve
Maybe 10 years ago, Gabe has been increasingly gigaisraelite in recent years
They must be porting Portal to the N64 as well to explain the other take down, after all they're only the good guys.
Portal64 used libultra, which is owned by Nintendo, meaning Valve can’t have any involvement with the project (which they would need to have, as it contains their copyrighted content as well).
>someone makes a roblox clone
>someone else rips TF2 assets wholesale to make a game inside that roblox game
>valve doesn't like their copyright being abused for a game they have nothing to do with
The real question is why do they need Valve's assets to make a TF2 clone instead of making their own
wait how is roblox involved? the tf2 port was to source 2 i thought?
is roblox source 2 wtf??
It's a port to Source 2 via s&box which is like Roblox and Garry's Mod.
Garry Newman's shitty gmod successor is basically trying to be Roblox
He turned down Valve when they offered him to work together on it but now decided to use Source 2 anyway, except he doesn't have any license to use any of Valve's assets, so they wont let it fly if people try to rip off their old game wholesale to include them in s&box.
That's the whole reason for this DMCA copyright claim.
Oh and they were most likely going to profit off of it as well
>https://sbox.facepunch.com/faq/
>One of our biggest failings in Garry's Mod was not allowing the community to fund itself. People made a living out of selling Garry's Mod addons but it was a lot harder than it should have been.
>This is something I really want to address in s&box. I don't totally know how that looks right now. There's a few different choices..
>Allow games to have microtransactions - turns into a shit show fast
>Allow unlocking/buying games - puts players off playing if they have to pay for
>Allow tips/donations - might work if done right
>Split a percentage of sales to top played games/addons/maps every month - might work if done right
>Allow selling games standalone on Steam - attractive, maybe hard work, need Valve's permission
no, stop working on somebody else's ideas
if you want to make a game, make a new game
let go and create
Here's the final commit version (61d225e) of Portal64 before the israelites at Valve struck for anyone that wants it
https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://github.com/lambertjamesd/portal64
morons think the lesson here is stop working on others ideas.
The real lesson is don't open yourself up for this happen in the first place. Like what happened with AM2R. If this happened to me I would """comply""" but then make an new website and work on it in the background as a fan (and try to obfuscate myself by working on it in cafes). They hit me again I go to an onions link.
Companies go for easy pickings. A website/github is so easy to take down. But they see groups of autistics working on something that provides exactly zero business value (I know I know Gabe, somehow is really needed for business operations) they're gonna realize that they have better shit to be doing and you know, do them, instead of taking down Portal64.
I would do it out of spite. S P I T E.
Github is an open and transparent way of coders to work together on project. it makes a lot of sense given the codebase and userbase of such a site to use it. Especially since you're implying they've done anything wrong in this case.
They did do something wrong. They got fricked liked a b***h after seeing project and project get off github.
Instead they should have diversified their assets, and had multiple git repositories and backups, and made an alt on their forums to post them to continue development. It isn't even hard to do, just find some sites that host git and push onto there, it takes two CLI commands.
Oh in that sense. They always should have backups. But joining github was valid since it's a good place to use.
racism isn't tolerated outside of /b/.
>But joining github was valid since it's a good place to use.
keeeeeeeeeeek
Theoretically, instead of redistributing TF2's assets, could they not create an installer that requires you have TF2 installed and takes the assets from there in order to install the Source 2 version?
They could, I've seen it before for other mods like open x-com
Yes that's the smart and legal and usual way to do it.
Doing it the lazy and dumb way is their own fault.
No, Valve will just find another excuse, like they did with the CS port. They're greedy israelites and just using any excuse that looks better publicly, like pretending they'd magically be liable to Nintendo for someone else using their libraries for a game Valve isn't at all involved in. It tricks the Gabe worshipping morons but not anyone with more than 80 IQ
>couldn't they just do (legal thing that many other games do already with no issue)
>NOOOOOOO VALVE IS HECKIN EVIL AND SHUT THEM DOWN ANYWAY
Valve shut down the CS port despite it needing user provided assets exactly like you suggested, moron. They're just making publicly acceptable excuses to save their image as they go after fan projects.
>things that never happened
That's exactly what the CS1.6 Source 2 mod did, still got struck down
im not surprised that happened, cs2 would probably lose a quarter of its playerbase if there was 1.6 using source 2 out there
>no drops
>no gambling crates
>looks like a boomer game
no one who plays CS today would touch it
if it just used the original assets why would anyone need to play it over the original anyways?
Its a dead game, they refuse to update it despite the obvious passion from the community, and its free. Its indefensible, the only reason they are killing this is because they want to keep making money off of community made hats while doing nothing forever. Its no different than nintendo DMCAing smash mods.
doesn't change how the law works. valve can gives it blessing to or tell any project like this to stop as it likes, no amount of crying will change that
No one is claiming Valve is doing anything illegal moron. We know they are within their legal rights. Still makes them homosexuals.
>Its no different than nintendo DMCAing smash mods.
Damn thats probably why I equally dont care
No one asked moron.
Gay sex with hats on
Hit the nail on the head. TF2 is a cash cow, they don't have to put forth a single bit of effort to make money from it, they take assets made by the COMMUNITY and sell them back to it. Then as soon as that same community starts a passion project that remotely threatens this money milking operation they nix it pronto. It's indefensible.
>TF2 is a cash cow
I highly doubt that these days. If it was valve would be doing more to take care of it. It's very likely it only just makes them just enough money to justify running servers for it.
smelleegays are sub-human so then getting assblasted by nintendo is funny
When did Ganker become bootlickers?
Isn't that what happened with Classic Offensive mod for CSGO? The modder keeps asking for permissions for official Source engine licensing so that he can work on the stuff and Valve never bothered to respond. I'd figure Valve are Nintendo-tier when it comes to their live service games.
what's the reasoning for trying to put it on source2 anyway?
yeah I dont get it either. if it looks the same just play the original? it still exists
Source 1 is technical ass. Maybe people want to play it with functional DPI scaling, non-hardcoded resolutions and shockingly, functional graphics options not stuck in an engine from 2004
if you're that level of graphics prostitute why the hell are you wanting to play old shooters from decades ago? deal with it zoomer
Better graphics, better performance, better physics, better network optimization, physics, hit reg, etc. Source is a janky old engine designed for shit internet and shit computers, modern systems and network connections are capable of a much smoother, more accurate, and all round better feeling game.
I played TFC recently and its absolutely fine. physics and RTX wont suddenly make it a different game
Source is just very dated and I don't mean graphically. All its tools are ancient and make it a pain for the community to make content. Being able to use somewhat modern mapping tools alone makes it worth it.
No one would care if they hadn't promised to fix TF2 two years ago then did nothing. It looks really fricking bad for them because they refuse to fix the game but also shut down fan efforts to revitalize it.
valve is just pretending to be israelitetendo so they can have a le ebin redemption arc in 2024 when they release dota 3 and the deckard
The Deckard is never happening, accept it and move on.
You ever thought it's because Valve is already making a TF3?
see
the poojeets are terrified at the thought of TF3
No they aren't, they did the same thing with Classic Offensive too. They're just gigaisraelites when it involves any of their lazy cash cow mtx games.
Buddy they won't even update VAC or deal with the bots making the game unplayable, you think they give a frick? It's literally one guy at Valve dealing with the entire game. If it didn't make so much money they'd have shut it down and C&D'd any private servers in an attempt to force you to play one of their more profitable games.
I really like Valve's existing games but they stopped making them over 10 years ago.
funny that the person reporting on this and trying to pretend its a big deal, and also constantly makes "news" videos about how TF2 is dead because of bots, is the cause of the bot problems because he helped leak the source code
Because the source code leaked there's no way in hell for them to do anything about the bots without rewriting the whole game from scratch.
There are ways to deal with bots that don't involve coding. The easiest is making the game P2P again and charge $20, making it totally cost-prohibitive for botters to just spam them in every server. Suddenly it goes from $0 to almost $500 just to fill one server with bots. Obviously the existing accounts keep their game but all the bots will end up banned in less than a month.
are you moronic?
Where is the Artifact autist when we need him
Wtf did you expect?
how is Valve the bad guy here?
they aren't the bad guy
they're just less of the super-good-guy they used to be
obviously this is unnerving because they're like 90% of pc gaming and if they go down we all go down with them
its literally their own game though. This is not a mod like CS was for example
i find the tf2 port to source 2 takedown baffling by valve standards
but the portal N64 thing makes sense to me.
that mod could potentially cause them issues with nintendo, and better to just C&D them than deal with it.
but yeah, i don't get their excuse for getting rid of the tf2 mod
>i find the tf2 port to source 2 takedown baffling by valve standards
It's not a pure port, it's a port that depends on another a paid third party game that happens to be using Source 2. If it was a Steam mod it may have been alright.
>If it was a Steam mod
If only Valve ever released SDK
Not my problem, people have done tons of mods without SDKs for tons of games.
I'm only taking issue with people saying that "Valve has changed" when the equivalent would be mods using their assets in completely unrelated game like Titanfall just because that happens to be using Source.
>Not my problem
how does that boot taste?
I had tons of fun playing the bunch of other community projects that weren't moronic like Entropy Zero 2, Black Mesa and the recently released Portal Reloaded so you tell me. Now go back to raging at the Capitalism Sale.
>I-I'm not a bootlicker see my valve approved projects
>reggie image
should have known it was a falseflag tendie
Don't worry, I have a folder full of shrugs just for you.
keep seething tendie
S&box is much more hand in hand with Valve though. It's literally the only developer outside valve who has been allowed a licensed version of source 2. There was definitely an angle where by s&box would be the face of source 2 modding. But the idea of it being the garry's mod for source 2 is definitely compromised when we can't even have valve assets in the game apparently.
because they're stopping the community from updating something that they refuse to update themselves. the same community that makes all the stuff they steal and sell as their own.
they aren't but the epic marketers need to pretend that valve is somehow obligated to let anyone and everyone use their assets for anything, and not that valve is completely in the right to give fan projects a pass or not
Rent free.
Its easy to see them as that at first glance, but if you actually look into how gay the homies behind tf2 source 2 are...
I love how the same people that are criticising valve for this are also criticising valve for allowing AI on steam, sometimes in the same tweet.
>You have to enforce my copyright! No you can't enforce yours!
At least don't be a hypocrite, I'm philosophically against copyright as a concept but from the legal standpoint valve here is in the right.
The people you are speaking of aren't in this room. Stop having conversations with yourself.
Here's one, I can find more if you want.
>what the hell is happening
>should I investigate what is going on?
>no, I'll just post about my emotions instead
Is this a woman?
why exactly is AI in games a problem by itself? Its a shit game if it has shitty AI art
AI anything is a red flag for half the terminally online twitternoids
It's a clue that Timmy is still paying people to spam these shit threads
Shovelware could be pumped out at an even faster rate is what I imagine.
>is what I imagine.
It's already been happening for months. They've been dodging Valve's previous policy, now they just don't have to.
The biggest problem is hustle bro's pumping out games like crazy trying to get 'passive income'. Like they did to writing (remember clarckesworld?)
The problem with AI isn't just copyright its that the combination of valve not having quality standards and allowing AI will result in a flood of bad AI games.
>But there's already a flood of bad games
This will make it 100x worse and if you don't believe me look at ANY website that allows AI content to be uploaded freely. All of them turn into an unending stream of AI bullshit.
While it was NEVER a bastion of high quality, even Itch.io saw a marked decline in what little quality it did have as heavily AI based games started coming in, like EXTREMELY noticeable. And it took them months to add filtering for AI games.
So the problem always is not the tools developers use, but the quality of their output. Solved by having a stricter quality standard.
You'll be able to filter the games out, valve is forcing the devs to disclose AI being used, if they don't they will violate the contract that they have with steam which is not a good idea.
total troony death
NINTENDO GOOD!
VALVE GOOD!
TRUMP GOOD!
What's "S@box" and how is it pronounced? Why can't USAnians be human?
its the sequel to garry's mod but its even shittier because garry is so far up his own ass now he thinks the ugly sausage men are an improvement
It’s s&box (i.e. sandbox), but I think most people pronounce it close to s and box.
It's the sequel to Gmod that Garry refuses to release for anyone who's not a streamer or content creator because of marketing.
it's supposed to be s&box, as in 'sandbox'. It's Garrys Mod 2, but because Garry is such a flaming unlikable autist, he's trying to copy roblox.
It's supposed to be s&box. And the game is made by a brit.
>it's ok if Valve does it
>BOYCOT VALVE
Just bought the OLED 'eck. Can't wait to 'ick on it.
>take assets without permission
>not releasing on Steam
What did they think was going to happen?
Why is Hunt Down the Freeman okay but this isn't?
half-life isnt a gaas
They could make money off of hunt down freeman.
They got perms from valve to use the required licenses for the game, regardless of how shitty the product ended up being.
Portal 64 I get because they're using Nintendo architecture to run it and they're pretty sue happy about this shit. But I don't understand why they canned the sandbox port of TF2.
s&box isnt on Steam (yet) and TFS2 doesn't require checking you have the TF2 assets installed like GMod does, it just rips them wholesale.
>Portal 64 I get because they're using Nintendo architecture to run it and they're pretty sue happy about this shit.
Except that is just a bullshit excuse to publicly save face. Nintendo can't do shit to Valve over some random unrelated persons project, they can only go after the guy doing it. This is acting like having your Camry stolen and used to rob a bank means Toyota can be sued for it.
Valve have already shown they don't want none of Nintendo by going to Nintendo and telling them about Dolphin on Steam and removing that Yuzu logo from the Steam Deck graphics.
>valve DMCAs a dead project for stealing assets
What's the issue here?
why don't you just sue valve? it's that easy to get what you want
>Valve promises Source 2 will be free to use
>Radio silence after
>Only give access to Garry
>Garry fricks around making a Fanboy and Chum Chum game for the past six years
>Valve bans people from using source assets in Garry's game which is the only way to make anything for Source 2 at the time because Alyx doesn't have a full SDK
What is their problem?
>Valve promises Source 2 will be free to use
>Radio silence after
they are just incompetent in this part and its not ready for the wider audience
They made half an SDK and shipped it with Dota 2
I don't know if it improved when Alyx or CSGO2 were released
The probably said frick it we have better things to do than compete with the myriad of stock engines out there, which is stupid considering that there is people that would use that engine no matter how hard they would have to hack it
And also if the Dota 2 mapping community was any indication, it would attract a shit ton of people who think they need to constantly try to emali valve or try to start reddit mobs to get their attention and I can imagine they don't want any of that
>literally just repackaging their current game in a new engine
>everyone losing their minds
This shit is the stupidest shit. Nobody would even try pull this with any other company, but Valve does the bare minimum to maintain their copyright and suddenly they're the evilist.
did these morons not learn anything from recompilation projects?
don't include the assets in your project and make the user provide them instead to avoid legal trouble.
You're implying they're the wrongdoer for not being paranoid.
that's not paranoia, it's just common sense.
why risk it if you don't have too?
They did nothing wrong. That's blaming a woman for dressing too thinly instead of our immigrants for not abiding by the law.
>Valve acts upon people using their IPs against their wishes
>People act as if it's ill intent
>literally remake their game without their approval
every single company would be even more strict than Valve about this. You can only discuss why they arent allowing it this time around and its probably because they wanna keep their cards open with this
No.
is this the first clue that gaben has now taken a back seat to the company?
>NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT PROTECT YOUR IP STOOOOP NOOO
frick off epicBlack person
>misspelling s&box as s@box in the DMCA
no respectable lawyer would make a typo like this in a legal document
it might be a copyright troll
You've put too much faith in lawyers. What's next putting faith in doctors? police officers? construction workers?
normally something like this goes through at least 1 person proofreading it and names of property or people are the most important thing to get right.
if this is really one of valve's lawyers then he certainly isn't worth whatever salary he's being paid with a mistake like that.
He's not worth it regardless since this would not have put a single dent in Valve's profits.
this shit needs to be required viewing for anyone that starts any kind of fan game
>use popular IP to draw attention to yourself while letting no one know about it challenge (impossible)
Valve has been tr00n for a decade now
Under US law If you don't defend your copyrights you can lose it. Those sorts of projects are always depend on the eye of sauron not gazing in their direction.
Fake news
Based, only trannies and mentally ill furgays play TF2
>game's fricked for years with zero feedback and no fix in sight
ZZZ
>someone uses the game's assets
NOW WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!
I already did years ago
imagine still screaming about muh IP in current year no one cares, TF2 hasn't been relevant for many years except to autists who collects hats or some shit. doesnt make sense for a company to own "thing" including fricking digital data for upwards of 100 years.
>hasn't been relevant
Why does that matter. It keeps on breaking records though so
lol I'm doing my part by continuing to play my Steam games on my Windows 7 operating system.
>S@box
holy shit whenever valve is the one doing something the reactions are completely backwards. if anyone else did that Ganker would be fuming but when valve does it Ganker defends it
Dragon's Dogma 2 gays claim that Rift Crystals aren't microtransactions and if you do, you're a discordgay
Gabe owns 6 yachts.
Just kinda sad really. Other billionaires at least pretend to do good for the world. He just wastes it away on he doesn't know what to do with. Maybe he rotates the 6 of them to avoid covid
Valve Insider here. TF2 is being ported to Source 2. It's shipping with the heavy update. Also, the caber nerf will be reverted and bots will no longer be able to function. Just sit back in relax. All will be revealed in roughly one fortnight.
>THEY SHUT DOWN THE PORTAL 64 PORT THAT MEANS THEY'RE PORTING PORTAL TO THE Nintendo 64 THEMSELVES IT'S FRICKING HAPPENING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE VALVE SAVE ME
I dont think I will you falseflagging moralgay
While Valve and any other megacorp sucks for taking down fan-projects that weren't intending on monetizing it, the people making the project are moronic as all hell
>Not just making the game and then releasing it when it's finished
>Noooo I have to advertise and talk about it I need twitter clout!!!
And why can't these gays just let go of these 20+ year old games they were fun while they lasted, nostalgia rotten brains
My moronic brother thought that plants were the property of the planter, not the owner of the land. The moron then planted several eucalyptus trees on land that wasn't his and then got angry that the owner of the land wouldn't let him cut the wood and sell it. He thought he was being wronged.
I see that in this thread there are several morons like my brother, lol.
imagine even trying to bad mouth valve on this Black person homosexual board, lmao, mod literally bans you for creating negative threads about his favorite corpo
It's not nintendo so who cares
>I am part of Valve's [private]
corporations are my friends and hurting them makes me sad.