>Downgrade >When Soejima in 2006 was a complete amateur with next to zero knowledge of anatomy
Fricking nostalgiagays with their boners for giraffe necks.
New portraits are superior in every way.
His neck is still pretty damn long in the new portrait. What's more the new portrait has simpler shading, less detail in areas like the eyes and clothing, and softer facial features. The new portrait is still 'fine', but as someone with no attachment to this game or IP, I prefer the original.
lol nah, the battle UI is just a p5 ui rehash. reminder that they dropped the revolver looking UI for that, which was a cool detail because of the evoker guns.
Mainly the necks, some faces in the original where a bit off, like Yukari's. Also her hair was different in the anime cutscenes. I'm not saying one is better than the other, that's up to you, but Reload is objectively more consistent in that regard.
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moron.
did anyone get a better glow up?
The old art had an endearing Boogiepop LN/Phantom feel to it, the remake scrubbed it all off
Zoomers are too b***h made for Boogiepop Phantom. My coworker says his friend can't even watch Hellsing because it's too dark. Anime nowadays is like Seinfeld with seasons.
>NOOOOO EVERYTHING MUST BE SOULLESS AND STERILE >HOW DARE YOUR ART STYLE HAVE ANY HINT OF SOUL OR PERSONALITY IT MUST BE GENERIC AND STREAMLINED BECAUSE MY AUTISM DEMANDS IT
pathetic.
2006 Soejima did one of the best and most visually stunning art for the series, homosexual. Persona 3 has absolutely amazing aesthetic breathing with both style and substance
Yup. He did a lot of work together with Kaneko on both character designs and artwork. It was more of a mix of their styles. Looks more surreal and puts focus on different aspects. Still looks great and really unique but I personally like mid 2000s Soejima style more
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Anonymous
Few things in the business tickle my sense of aesthetics quite like 90s SMT concept art. Kaneko was on fire.
4 months ago
Anonymous
He really was tapped into Japan's occult culture of the era in a way nobody else was.
I myself take some influence from Soejima. Some of his faces may look "off" but it breathes the characters' expressions to life and it usually looks more animated. It's not always about making it look 1-1 perfect because you usually get stiff looking characters that way.
I myself take some influence from Soejima. Some of his faces may look "off" but it breathes the characters' expressions to life and it usually looks more animated. It's not always about making it look 1-1 perfect because you usually get stiff looking characters that way.
>wannabe reddit art critics are who's trying to shit on the new portraits
New ones are better, and it's simply not up for a debate unless you're just being contrarian
I'm not saying that Reload art looks bad. It's decent and some portraits look way better than the original ones but the majority of them just look a lot more generic, cheap, and much less expressive. The game overall feels kind of low effort and low budget in a lot of places. (You) can tell that it was created as a small side project by the B team meanwhile the main one at Atlus put all the focus on Re Fantezio
4 months ago
Anonymous
metaphor is their A TEAM? lol holy frick how embarrassing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah kind of. Refantazio suffered from Katsura's ambition of creating an entirely new revolutionary genre of games that would revolutionize the entire industry. He already wanted to make new types of experimental games since Cathrine. A lot of years and money have gone by without any news to the public and now... Well... You see the results. Katsura's ambition was simply too big and he just retreated into familiar territories by relying on what was already proven and popular. I know that it's not fully his fault because higher-ups surely put a lot of pressure on him and his team and probably forced them to change a lot during development. I'm still kind of excited about the game but I still can't shake off the feeling of massive disappointment after years of waiting and hype with Hashino's big promises like Peter Molenux during the production of Fable 1 in the 2000s. It is kind of sad yet hilarious when you visit Atlus' old website for Project Re Fantasy with promo art with big words stating: "This not SMT. This is not Persona. This is the start of a new journey".
The quality of the art is fine, it's the change in artstyle that's the problem
But I'm sure they were specifically fishing for Persona 5 newbies rather than general Persona 3 enjoyers, so makes sense
He literally isn't. His art for P5 brought about some of the most iconic designs for video game characters, and his art for both the characters and monsters for metaphor are all intriguing and striking.
Enough of this "new bad old good" bullshit. Soejima is, was, and always will be king, and you shall kneel.
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Anonymous
Is he still working on the Fantazio game or whatever the frick it's called? That game has incredible art direction. I'm hoping so bad it's not shit.
>Better, more generically consistent portraits. >Slightly improved graphics with global blue filter for a more visually pleasant experience. >Free of problematic, culturally outdated content. New writing that reflects the real world and respects modern day sensibilities. >Denuvo for improved anti-piracy measures at a relatively minor performance cost.
Reload bros we frickin' won.
lol nah, the battle UI is just a p5 ui rehash. reminder that they dropped the revolver looking UI for that, which was a cool detail because of the evoker guns.
The battle UI in the original was better for sure and anyone who thinks the generic one they put in P3R is better is objectively wrong
not only the UI looks better, but it's also much faster and easier to operate than before
seriously, have you run out of shit to complain already? UI is in general the one thing not even the most delusional moron could argue was done better in the old one
>removes character animations >removes school club choices >removes the ability to use multiple weapons >scenes are downgraded >shitty lighting >braindead difficulty >inferior script from portable >censored dialogue >the infamous gay pin and gay train >worse ost >worse anime cutscenes >worse dub
vs >better models >consistent artstyle >some extra scenes >faster encounters >faster exploration
Mainly the necks, some faces in the original where a bit off, like Yukari's. Also her hair was different in the anime cutscenes. I'm not saying one is better than the other, that's up to you, but Reload is objectively more consistent in that regard.
spoiler: it's a shitposter who's played neither game
Don't care. I've played, owned and enjoy both. I don't give a frick what you shitposters spew from your rancid little mouths. Anyone crying about "demakes" on Ganker needs to be gassed, as you've ruined this board and plenty of discussions. You're basically Black folk in need of cleansing.
>people whining about the music being worse >they fundamentally sound the same
what the frick lol, you can whine about everything else of p3r (those graphics settings are stupid, i hate the motion blur. lmao how did this game release with a bugged borderlines issue, this UI is too large, the camera is zoomed too much) but the music?
nah
homie thy literally rerecorded it like it's a fricked ng Taylors Version album, the singers are different but one clearly sounds worse, the mixing is objectively worse. If you played the original you will immediately notice the difference
Sure you can. You just need someone who knows the ins and outs of how to draw that way rather than someone who just drifts over time and wants to try with their current aesthetic sense. Artists like that are very rare, but they exist.
I dunno. I am playing P3Reloaded and it captured the dread of having to fight Nappa in the DBZ anime, or the Fourth Raikage in Naruto by having the Steel Gigas decimate me with Assault Dive. I think the problem with the reloaded is that they made MC a magic user at the expense of strength making it hard to get even. The short sword is not enough to cut thru Steel Gigas yet Junpei has no problem decimating whole enemies.
With her and the MC in particular I feel like they made them too attractive for what they were supposed to be. Both Chihiro and the MC are supposed to look like awkward dorks initially.
"glow up" they made her look more generic... i like that she looks kinda dorky in the original. she was the first girl i whose social link i completed too, and i made fanart of her hahah
>get hype after seing this image in the trailer >"wow they are going to make her scenes more cinematic" >they may even add some new scenes It's just a flashback
this board could look at a shit taken 10 years ago and a shit taken yesterday and with full sincerity say that the shit taken 10 years ago "just had more soul"
>homies really trying to act like the new art isn't just better
Reload broke these weird ass homies, scream demake some more I'm sure it'll stop the game being a huge success(it won't, just like with every other remake Ganker b***hes about)
quality's debatable and subjective let's be real, but reload having way more expression portraits is its biggest advantage. >hidetoshi gets punched in the face >there's a portrait with a swollen cheek for that one scene
The faces also look really flat. Way fewer shadows, very little gradient in their skin tone that you can see in the originals, less pronounced noses and ears, less detail and texture on hair, other features like Junpei's facial hair being nerfed, etc.
Because moronic consoomers like you allow corporations to get lazy and greedy, milking already widely available games ad infinitum instead of innovating and creating new things.
i've been playing and i'll post my honest non-homosexual thoughts on the game so far. i just finished the tartarus walkthrough.
junpeis voice actor sucks. plain and simple. the person doing it doesnt get the character at all. he doesn't cool or like a bro.
yukaris ENTIRE personality is a switch. they did her dirty. she is way too nice and not the b***hy girl i love.
akihiko what they do to you
the character models seem honestly worse than persona 5s. makoto doesnt look good running up stairs and there isn't a good flow to him. you can see this once you enter your bedroom and go straight to your bed normally. it's choppy.
the battles are pretty cool. this game really feels like it came before persona 5 when the remake should've done the opposite. it just feels like they remade it without any love. someone mentioned the lighting in tarturus are good and theyre right, so why does the dorm lighting suck ass and look like dog poop? idk thats all i gotta say so far. oh yeah the anime cutscenes are ugly af too
The new VAs sound like they are doing parodies of the old ones. Junpei especially. Vic wasn't a shakespearean actor either of course but none of the new VAs have any natural tone to their voice, they all sound so bootleg.
>yukaris ENTIRE personality is a switch. they did her dirty. she is way too nice and not the b***hy girl i love.
yukari was never b***hy, Gankertards are just afraid of highschool girls, she was always the nicest person in SEES
>Persona game has bad visuals
And there goes the only good thing about these games and the only reason why anyone played them. Why does this series exist again?
Honestly I like the new portraits. The new versions of mass destruction and moon reaching stars definitely suck though. In general, I'm not a fan of the new cast. They all have this problem where they get way too quiet at the end of their sentence, as if the VA ran out of breath or something, and I can't hear the end of the line over the music (Junpei and Mitsuru are especially bad for this).
girls don't like guys like him
his new portraits look like they came from a low budget western porn game homosexual
>Downgrade
>When Soejima in 2006 was a complete amateur with next to zero knowledge of anatomy
Fricking nostalgiagays with their boners for giraffe necks.
New portraits are superior in every way.
89
His neck is still pretty damn long in the new portrait. What's more the new portrait has simpler shading, less detail in areas like the eyes and clothing, and softer facial features. The new portrait is still 'fine', but as someone with no attachment to this game or IP, I prefer the original.
he still has a giraffe neck you moronic homosexual
>amateur with next to zero knowledge of anatomy
you mean completely soulful?
>complete amateur
is this a meme
Do not engage with reload or any demake shills.Some of them are on Sega/Atlus West payroll.They use the same tactics with every game
>amateur
Stop, he's already dead
The old art had an endearing Boogiepop LN/Phantom feel to it, the remake scrubbed it all off
Zoomers are too b***h made for Boogiepop Phantom. My coworker says his friend can't even watch Hellsing because it's too dark. Anime nowadays is like Seinfeld with seasons.
seinfeld is just a slice of life.
There's homies on the Ganker board calling One Piece edgy now.
Boogiepop Phantom isn't even really scary, it's just strange and uncanny for the most part.
>NOOOOO EVERYTHING MUST BE SOULLESS AND STERILE
>HOW DARE YOUR ART STYLE HAVE ANY HINT OF SOUL OR PERSONALITY IT MUST BE GENERIC AND STREAMLINED BECAUSE MY AUTISM DEMANDS IT
pathetic.
2006 Soejima did one of the best and most visually stunning art for the series, homosexual. Persona 3 has absolutely amazing aesthetic breathing with both style and substance
How can anyone hate this art. I dont get it
Soejima's Mitsuru makes me cum gallons. Jesus Christ. They know they couldn't compete so the reloaded made Yukari's legs sexual.
Soejima was around since Innocent Sin, was he not?
Yup. He did a lot of work together with Kaneko on both character designs and artwork. It was more of a mix of their styles. Looks more surreal and puts focus on different aspects. Still looks great and really unique but I personally like mid 2000s Soejima style more
Few things in the business tickle my sense of aesthetics quite like 90s SMT concept art. Kaneko was on fire.
He really was tapped into Japan's occult culture of the era in a way nobody else was.
What do you think of this?
Looks like shit lol
Why?
I myself take some influence from Soejima. Some of his faces may look "off" but it breathes the characters' expressions to life and it usually looks more animated. It's not always about making it look 1-1 perfect because you usually get stiff looking characters that way.
>wannabe reddit art critics are who's trying to shit on the new portraits
New ones are better, and it's simply not up for a debate unless you're just being contrarian
I'm not saying that Reload art looks bad. It's decent and some portraits look way better than the original ones but the majority of them just look a lot more generic, cheap, and much less expressive. The game overall feels kind of low effort and low budget in a lot of places. (You) can tell that it was created as a small side project by the B team meanwhile the main one at Atlus put all the focus on Re Fantezio
metaphor is their A TEAM? lol holy frick how embarrassing.
Yeah kind of. Refantazio suffered from Katsura's ambition of creating an entirely new revolutionary genre of games that would revolutionize the entire industry. He already wanted to make new types of experimental games since Cathrine. A lot of years and money have gone by without any news to the public and now... Well... You see the results. Katsura's ambition was simply too big and he just retreated into familiar territories by relying on what was already proven and popular. I know that it's not fully his fault because higher-ups surely put a lot of pressure on him and his team and probably forced them to change a lot during development. I'm still kind of excited about the game but I still can't shake off the feeling of massive disappointment after years of waiting and hype with Hashino's big promises like Peter Molenux during the production of Fable 1 in the 2000s. It is kind of sad yet hilarious when you visit Atlus' old website for Project Re Fantasy with promo art with big words stating: "This not SMT. This is not Persona. This is the start of a new journey".
scream and shitfling as much as you want. i am not going to consoom the new product.
>New ones are better, and it's simply not up for a debate
I'm all for free thought and personal beliefs, but those aren't allowed here.
The quality of the art is fine, it's the change in artstyle that's the problem
But I'm sure they were specifically fishing for Persona 5 newbies rather than general Persona 3 enjoyers, so makes sense
Soejima has been downhill ever since though.
He literally isn't. His art for P5 brought about some of the most iconic designs for video game characters, and his art for both the characters and monsters for metaphor are all intriguing and striking.
Enough of this "new bad old good" bullshit. Soejima is, was, and always will be king, and you shall kneel.
Is he still working on the Fantazio game or whatever the frick it's called? That game has incredible art direction. I'm hoping so bad it's not shit.
Yes.
>Better, more generically consistent portraits.
>Slightly improved graphics with global blue filter for a more visually pleasant experience.
>Free of problematic, culturally outdated content. New writing that reflects the real world and respects modern day sensibilities.
>Denuvo for improved anti-piracy measures at a relatively minor performance cost.
Reload bros we frickin' won.
if soejima is considered an amateur then, then this new person doing the portrait is a baby
you would know all about that wouldn't you disgusting fricking moid
most portraits are a downgrade tbqhf
The girls look better but the boys look worse.
when is the pkg getting dumped
Taking too much fricking time what are those morons doing?
RE4R pkg came the same day.
Just about everything from the demake looks and sounds worse aside from battle UI
lol nah, the battle UI is just a p5 ui rehash. reminder that they dropped the revolver looking UI for that, which was a cool detail because of the evoker guns.
The evoker guns aren't even revolvers
all guns are revolvers
You're reaching. They changed the ui in the portable version too.
>7-chamber revolver
Just admit you're reaching
>only 7
Why stop there ?
The battle UI in the original was better for sure and anyone who thinks the generic one they put in P3R is better is objectively wrong
not only the UI looks better, but it's also much faster and easier to operate than before
seriously, have you run out of shit to complain already? UI is in general the one thing not even the most delusional moron could argue was done better in the old one
I appreciate that he looks a little younger, his original sprite makes him look like he's in his mid-twenties
You're fricking moronic.
>mock twitter/reddit/etc for being mindless sheep
>see an opinion that doesn't match the majority
>instantly enters bot reply mode
lol
Blind homosexual, both look like they're in their mid-20s. No Japanese high schooler has chin fluff.
GET BACK HERE YOU SON OF A
WHO'S DA MAN!
'Sup dude?
>removes character animations
>removes school club choices
>removes the ability to use multiple weapons
>scenes are downgraded
>shitty lighting
>braindead difficulty
>inferior script from portable
>censored dialogue
>the infamous gay pin and gay train
>worse ost
>worse anime cutscenes
>worse dub
vs
>better models
>consistent artstyle
>some extra scenes
>faster encounters
>faster exploration
artstyle
huh??? where was P3 Original inconsistent??
spoiler: it's a shitposter who's played neither game
Mainly the necks, some faces in the original where a bit off, like Yukari's. Also her hair was different in the anime cutscenes. I'm not saying one is better than the other, that's up to you, but Reload is objectively more consistent in that regard.
moron.
they made her so expresionless
I like nukari (japanese)
Which is which
Don't care. I've played, owned and enjoy both. I don't give a frick what you shitposters spew from your rancid little mouths. Anyone crying about "demakes" on Ganker needs to be gassed, as you've ruined this board and plenty of discussions. You're basically Black folk in need of cleansing.
>remove ability to uae multiple weapons
Really? Thats fricking gay
>people whining about the music being worse
>they fundamentally sound the same
what the frick lol, you can whine about everything else of p3r (those graphics settings are stupid, i hate the motion blur. lmao how did this game release with a bugged borderlines issue, this UI is too large, the camera is zoomed too much) but the music?
nah
Having the same skeleton means nothing.
homie thy literally rerecorded it like it's a fricked ng Taylors Version album, the singers are different but one clearly sounds worse, the mixing is objectively worse. If you played the original you will immediately notice the difference
did anyone get a better glow up?
Reload goes too far in streamlining art and makes it totally sterile. All 3 really needed was some touch ups for shapes.
Persona 3 used the art style that was popular in Japanese anime/vidya at the time.
You can't really recreate that. Even if you have the original artists.
Sure you can. You just need someone who knows the ins and outs of how to draw that way rather than someone who just drifts over time and wants to try with their current aesthetic sense. Artists like that are very rare, but they exist.
I dunno. I am playing P3Reloaded and it captured the dread of having to fight Nappa in the DBZ anime, or the Fourth Raikage in Naruto by having the Steel Gigas decimate me with Assault Dive. I think the problem with the reloaded is that they made MC a magic user at the expense of strength making it hard to get even. The short sword is not enough to cut thru Steel Gigas yet Junpei has no problem decimating whole enemies.
I dont mind most of the new portraits but man they fricked up junpei iori ace detective
Nah you're just being a queen.
Nah her breasts look smaller and her forehead bigger. Plus her new expression is kind of souless.
With her and the MC in particular I feel like they made them too attractive for what they were supposed to be. Both Chihiro and the MC are supposed to look like awkward dorks initially.
>the MC are supposed to look like awkward dorks
the MC is referred to as a pretty boy several times by several different people
soulless/soul
"glow up" they made her look more generic... i like that she looks kinda dorky in the original. she was the first girl i whose social link i completed too, and i made fanart of her hahah
Everyone's always mean about Junpei but he's the only one who gave a shit when Chidori attempted seppuku.
>get hype after seing this image in the trailer
>"wow they are going to make her scenes more cinematic"
>they may even add some new scenes
It's just a flashback
this board could look at a shit taken 10 years ago and a shit taken yesterday and with full sincerity say that the shit taken 10 years ago "just had more soul"
>homies really trying to act like the new art isn't just better
Reload broke these weird ass homies, scream demake some more I'm sure it'll stop the game being a huge success(it won't, just like with every other remake Ganker b***hes about)
music for me tbh. i think the portraits look fine. there are some games where the art style completely changed and it's horrendous
quality's debatable and subjective let's be real, but reload having way more expression portraits is its biggest advantage.
>hidetoshi gets punched in the face
>there's a portrait with a swollen cheek for that one scene
Is there any reason to play this when P3P exists?
The faces also look really flat. Way fewer shadows, very little gradient in their skin tone that you can see in the originals, less pronounced noses and ears, less detail and texture on hair, other features like Junpei's facial hair being nerfed, etc.
oh my god shut up you whiny gay.
no
>stop complaining and just slop it up!!
have a nice day
TOTSUGEKIIIII
Why do anti-remake Black folk think remakes are replacing the old games? They're still there. You can play them anytime.
Because moronic consoomers like you allow corporations to get lazy and greedy, milking already widely available games ad infinitum instead of innovating and creating new things.
Weird. Didn't know the Reload prevented Persona 6 from being made.
nu atlus shiteaters are truly pathetic.
i've been playing and i'll post my honest non-homosexual thoughts on the game so far. i just finished the tartarus walkthrough.
junpeis voice actor sucks. plain and simple. the person doing it doesnt get the character at all. he doesn't cool or like a bro.
yukaris ENTIRE personality is a switch. they did her dirty. she is way too nice and not the b***hy girl i love.
akihiko what they do to you
the character models seem honestly worse than persona 5s. makoto doesnt look good running up stairs and there isn't a good flow to him. you can see this once you enter your bedroom and go straight to your bed normally. it's choppy.
the battles are pretty cool. this game really feels like it came before persona 5 when the remake should've done the opposite. it just feels like they remade it without any love. someone mentioned the lighting in tarturus are good and theyre right, so why does the dorm lighting suck ass and look like dog poop? idk thats all i gotta say so far. oh yeah the anime cutscenes are ugly af too
The new VAs sound like they are doing parodies of the old ones. Junpei especially. Vic wasn't a shakespearean actor either of course but none of the new VAs have any natural tone to their voice, they all sound so bootleg.
Junpei has golden chie level of excitement/hyper in his lines, it's so annoying
>Sanding off Yukari?
Why? Her slight b***hiness is what made her interesting.
>yukaris ENTIRE personality is a switch. they did her dirty. she is way too nice and not the b***hy girl i love.
yukari was never b***hy, Gankertards are just afraid of highschool girls, she was always the nicest person in SEES
>buying from the company that cancelled EO forever and brought you Soul Hackers 2 and SMT V
Haha. Atlus is fricking finished.
>EO
?
newbie
SMTV was good thoughbeit.
>tumblr
Neck is nerfed
I will not but your game
Why is the game so bright?
Sh-shut up chud!
>Persona game has bad visuals
And there goes the only good thing about these games and the only reason why anyone played them. Why does this series exist again?
Personababbies don't know anything about good games or narratives, forgive them.
Battles and menus look decent imo. Actual lighting and graphical quality is definitely not up to par though.
>breasts no longer in portrait
>phthalo blue fricking everywhere
doo doo dogshit game
Junpei Iori is the true mc
EUGH GET THIS DISGUSTING HAG AWAY FROM ME IMMEDIATELY
Kek
Edit him with the cap and uniform.
Every P3R seethe thread is just some moron going "I LIKED HOW THIS THING USED TO SUCK! WHY DOESN'T IT SUCK ANYMORE?"
This technique of gaslighting and strawmanning to try and make a point can only come from Reddit.
Can you at least make the MC run with both hands in his pockets like in the original game?
Unfortunately not really, he takes them out as soon as you pick up speed. So you might get half a second of pocket running.
Chidori is testing my resolve... No matter what happens I must abide by the bro-code.......... Hnnnngnhhaaaa!!!
Just give in anon. I know I have.
Honestly I like the new portraits. The new versions of mass destruction and moon reaching stars definitely suck though. In general, I'm not a fan of the new cast. They all have this problem where they get way too quiet at the end of their sentence, as if the VA ran out of breath or something, and I can't hear the end of the line over the music (Junpei and Mitsuru are especially bad for this).
the game just looks like a P5 mod, not bad but just homogenized
Well, can mods fix the cut content and restore the original game?
>cut content
such as?