As much as I still enjoy Underground he's right. The neon spinner ricer era didn't even last 10 years and everyone think it's cringe now but they jumped on it because it was the hot shit at the moment. In contrast a game like Porsche Unleashed was about real proper car culture that's been established for several decades and is still respectable and non-cringe.
>In contrast a game like Porsche Unleashed was about real proper car culture that's been established for several decades and is still respectable and non-cringe.
What's the point of being insecure about this? It was a silly era in
retrospect, but even the games moved themselves away from it slowly, and they act as a nice, fun time capsule now. You're acting as if
Ferdinand Porsche himself will send an 88mm to your house for not enjoying
"proper" auto culture.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>and they act as a nice, fun time capsule now
well said
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Ferdinand Porsche himself will send an 88mm to your house for not enjoying >"proper" auto culture.
he did
[...]
he's right, homosexuals. porsche unleashed was the peak of the franchise, and a diverse set of well-designed scenic tracks >>>>>>> open world.
shifting from exotic cars to appealing to ricers was a business decision, not a creative one.
wtf
it was foremost based on the tuner scene which is decades old and spanning multiple countries. even in the first game you could get the RX7 or R34 GTR which could go above 280kph when tuned. rx7 had trouble pushing past 300 because of 5 gearing IIRC, and all cars could be made fast but those are 'big boy' toys no matter how butthurt you are
but the second one had a ton of more serious cars and you could even skip the fast and furious rice shit by going for a sleeper car with carbon parts instead of rice to get the style points.
8 months ago
Anonymous
also strictly speaking rice is when you slap non-functional bling shit on your car but don't work on the performance, hardly the case in a game where you can make a 10 second shitbox
you guys are just dumb af
8 months ago
Anonymous
also strictly speaking rice is when you slap non-functional bling shit on your car but don't work on the performance, hardly the case in a game where you can make a 10 second shitbox
you guys are just dumb af
i played underground 2 and distinctly remember having to add dumb shit like decals to my car in order to progress. that was moronic; all this orgasming over "customisation" nu-NFSgays love so much is a farce when you *have* to make your car look fricking moronic in order to play the game.
> you guys are just dumb af
zoom on, zoomer.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You had to fill a popularity bar by covering your car with stickers so you could get sponsors for upgrades. Career mode sucked, I would shit all over this game if it wasn't for the splitscreen multi-player drifting.
He's 100% right. They cashed in on the Fast and Furious popularity boom.
Incorrect. It's okay to be wrong.
8 months ago
Anonymous
If you genuinely think it was just coincidence you probably not old enough to pay taxes and should have a nice day immediately.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Still incorrect, maybe you'll be right some day.
8 months ago
Anonymous
you call us incorrect, yet youre blinded by nostalgia for one of the dumbest fads of all time: the fast and the homosexualry. curious.
(pic related)
8 months ago
Anonymous
Get filtered, the Olds Aero fricks. You laugh but all that thing needs is some adjustable coilovers and it's faster around a track than anything you've ever owned.
8 months ago
Anonymous
i drive an alero, thats why i saved that photo. i was mocking ricing, not the alero
>rEaL pRoPeR cAr cUlTuRe
Could not possibly give a shit about autistic nerd homosexual shit like that.
NSFUnderground 1 and 2 are the best games in the franchise
7 months ago
Anonymous
>NSFUnderground 1 and 2 are the best games in the franchise
Not really, it's just that you were 12 when Underground came out
>2se was the last good one
Weakest one of the classic titles IMO with PC HP2 close second and PC High Stakes third. The tracks just didn't play well with the game's physics, it felt like racing with moon gravity.
Undercover permantently killed NFS, ended its cultural dominance, and destroyed its reputation as one of the most popular and successful racing franchises in gaming. it left a huge scar that the franchise STILL hasn't recovered from since. sure Carbon was OK and ProStreet was mediocre, but if those two are the Sonic Heroes of the franchise, then undercover is definitely the Sonic '06 of the franchise.
if someone ever says a franchise is too big to fail or a franchise can't die from just one bad game, I always point them to NFS undercover.
Undercover was a good game, it was just the formula inevitably dying and the games after it trying to change direction to recover, but that was unlikely to succeed no matter what. This happened to countless other games. Lets take Halo for example, sure Halo 2 and 3 had an insane cultural dominance, but it was still obvious it would be replaced by a new trend sooner rather than later. I don't think any version of "Halo 4" could have been successful, people were moving on already. Call of Duty is a better example of a shooter killing itself by doing everything wrong.
Gayest post I've seen on /vr/ today. Absolute zoomer tier >I only care about muh game politics >t-this game killed the genre!
holy shit what's it like huffing your own farts all day
He's right though. There used to be two console racing franchises with real cars, GT and NFS. Forza didn't get any love until 2 came out and Project Gotham died after two games. Most of my time was spent playing Midnight Club 2 because it was one of the few games where you could just drive around with no goals in mind. NFS isn't as popular as it used to be.
>There used to be two console racing franchises with real cars, GT and NFS
That's not THAT rare anon, lots of games had real cars, even Sega Rally had real cars and Genki's multiple racing franchises did too. Hell the Initial D games had real cars
7 months ago
Anonymous
I should have specified for the US market there were only two franchises with any recognition. Ridge Racer was only popular on PS1 here.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Ridge Racer was only popular on PS1 here.
Not that different from Europe tbf
Kind of a shame the 'old' NFS died out after this. It would have been cool if they spun off 'Underground' to be it's own thing, and still have Classic NFS style games.
I think the series took a turn again around Nu Hot Pursuit when they basically made it Burnout. I still enjoyed that game, but it was a shame that the old style NFS didn't seem to ever come back?
Underground is an awesome game and they failed to make the series better afterwards. It’s not the best games fault.
All you needed was Hot Pursuit 2 and Underground.
It is, there's a bunch of mod cars, just not a lot of them, since it's probably a slightly more involved process compared to the older games due to the more complex physics. It's a shame because it would be the closest you could get to a good, '90s PC simcade with road cars and tracks.
Of course we could also become the change we want to see in the world, late '90s low poly models aren't terribly hard to make.
I want to correct myself, there are a ton of mod cars. But they're the usual "rips from another game with 10 times the polycount of the original cars" that look like complete shit.
Pretty appropriate I got that Ganker [eurobeat intensifies] ad up top. Music does make it both special and no longer fit to GoG. What would be the modern equivalent?
At the time I felt like these were cheesy as frick, never was much into NFS, but 20 years later I bought them all for my GameCube and they are really slick racers, the style really is amazing, they pulled it off well, and I never watched a single Fast and Furious movie.
Underground killed NFS
Undercover buried its corpse in quicksand
Incorrect.
he's right, homosexuals. porsche unleashed was the peak of the franchise, and a diverse set of well-designed scenic tracks >>>>>>> open world.
shifting from exotic cars to appealing to ricers was a business decision, not a creative one.
Incorrect.
As much as I still enjoy Underground he's right. The neon spinner ricer era didn't even last 10 years and everyone think it's cringe now but they jumped on it because it was the hot shit at the moment. In contrast a game like Porsche Unleashed was about real proper car culture that's been established for several decades and is still respectable and non-cringe.
>In contrast a game like Porsche Unleashed was about real proper car culture that's been established for several decades and is still respectable and non-cringe.
What's the point of being insecure about this? It was a silly era in
retrospect, but even the games moved themselves away from it slowly, and they act as a nice, fun time capsule now. You're acting as if
Ferdinand Porsche himself will send an 88mm to your house for not enjoying
"proper" auto culture.
>and they act as a nice, fun time capsule now
well said
>Ferdinand Porsche himself will send an 88mm to your house for not enjoying
>"proper" auto culture.
he did
wtf
it was foremost based on the tuner scene which is decades old and spanning multiple countries. even in the first game you could get the RX7 or R34 GTR which could go above 280kph when tuned. rx7 had trouble pushing past 300 because of 5 gearing IIRC, and all cars could be made fast but those are 'big boy' toys no matter how butthurt you are
but the second one had a ton of more serious cars and you could even skip the fast and furious rice shit by going for a sleeper car with carbon parts instead of rice to get the style points.
also strictly speaking rice is when you slap non-functional bling shit on your car but don't work on the performance, hardly the case in a game where you can make a 10 second shitbox
you guys are just dumb af
i played underground 2 and distinctly remember having to add dumb shit like decals to my car in order to progress. that was moronic; all this orgasming over "customisation" nu-NFSgays love so much is a farce when you *have* to make your car look fricking moronic in order to play the game.
> you guys are just dumb af
zoom on, zoomer.
You had to fill a popularity bar by covering your car with stickers so you could get sponsors for upgrades. Career mode sucked, I would shit all over this game if it wasn't for the splitscreen multi-player drifting.
Incorrect. It's okay to be wrong.
If you genuinely think it was just coincidence you probably not old enough to pay taxes and should have a nice day immediately.
Still incorrect, maybe you'll be right some day.
you call us incorrect, yet youre blinded by nostalgia for one of the dumbest fads of all time: the fast and the homosexualry. curious.
(pic related)
Get filtered, the Olds Aero fricks. You laugh but all that thing needs is some adjustable coilovers and it's faster around a track than anything you've ever owned.
i drive an alero, thats why i saved that photo. i was mocking ricing, not the alero
>driving an unreliable GM shitbox
im poor, sorry
>rEaL pRoPeR cAr cUlTuRe
Could not possibly give a shit about autistic nerd homosexual shit like that.
NSFUnderground 1 and 2 are the best games in the franchise
>NSFUnderground 1 and 2 are the best games in the franchise
Not really, it's just that you were 12 when Underground came out
He's 100% right. They cashed in on the Fast and Furious popularity boom.
midnight club came before fast and shitty
2se was the last good one
adding police in 3 was a mistake
>2se was the last good one
Weakest one of the classic titles IMO with PC HP2 close second and PC High Stakes third. The tracks just didn't play well with the game's physics, it felt like racing with moon gravity.
>Underground killed NFS
You have less than zero taste.
>2000s dudebro larping as ebin joopanese street racist accusing someone of having zero taste for not liking F'n'F ripoff: the game
I thought undercover was fine.
Undercover permantently killed NFS, ended its cultural dominance, and destroyed its reputation as one of the most popular and successful racing franchises in gaming. it left a huge scar that the franchise STILL hasn't recovered from since. sure Carbon was OK and ProStreet was mediocre, but if those two are the Sonic Heroes of the franchise, then undercover is definitely the Sonic '06 of the franchise.
if someone ever says a franchise is too big to fail or a franchise can't die from just one bad game, I always point them to NFS undercover.
Just me but I liked the big overworld. Carbon still had a better map, and overall aesthetic.
Prostreet needs a particular brand of autism to enjoy but I wouldn't call it mediocre. It does sim-ish NFS far better than Shift did later on.
whats so bad about that game though. never played it. Pro Street was shit though, hardly OK.
it was a rushed buggy unfinished mess
Undercover was a good game, it was just the formula inevitably dying and the games after it trying to change direction to recover, but that was unlikely to succeed no matter what. This happened to countless other games. Lets take Halo for example, sure Halo 2 and 3 had an insane cultural dominance, but it was still obvious it would be replaced by a new trend sooner rather than later. I don't think any version of "Halo 4" could have been successful, people were moving on already. Call of Duty is a better example of a shooter killing itself by doing everything wrong.
Gayest post I've seen on /vr/ today. Absolute zoomer tier
>I only care about muh game politics
>t-this game killed the genre!
holy shit what's it like huffing your own farts all day
He's right though. There used to be two console racing franchises with real cars, GT and NFS. Forza didn't get any love until 2 came out and Project Gotham died after two games. Most of my time was spent playing Midnight Club 2 because it was one of the few games where you could just drive around with no goals in mind. NFS isn't as popular as it used to be.
>There used to be two console racing franchises with real cars, GT and NFS
That's not THAT rare anon, lots of games had real cars, even Sega Rally had real cars and Genki's multiple racing franchises did too. Hell the Initial D games had real cars
I should have specified for the US market there were only two franchises with any recognition. Ridge Racer was only popular on PS1 here.
>Ridge Racer was only popular on PS1 here.
Not that different from Europe tbf
Kind of a shame the 'old' NFS died out after this. It would have been cool if they spun off 'Underground' to be it's own thing, and still have Classic NFS style games.
I think the series took a turn again around Nu Hot Pursuit when they basically made it Burnout. I still enjoyed that game, but it was a shame that the old style NFS didn't seem to ever come back?
Underground is an awesome game and they failed to make the series better afterwards. It’s not the best games fault.
All you needed was Hot Pursuit 2 and Underground.
i like racing games but couldn't get into these games
Same, prefer the autism of Gran Tourismo
WOOOO
EAST STATE NINE
TASTE SO FINE
SOCK IT TO ME SOCK IT TO ME
ONE MORE TIME
GET LOW
TO THE WINDOOOOOOOOOOOOOW TO THE WALL
U1 still has the most fun gameplay when you just want to go fast to some numetal
>some numetal
Until you get to Lostprohet track that is, and immediately got reminded of "it's awwwight" old Ganker meme.
>"it's awwwight"
LITTLE BITTY BABY. LITTLE BITTY BOAT.
Most Wanted (2005) will always be my favorite NFS
AHHHHH SKEET SKEET MUHFUGGAAAA
Someone has to mod Porsche Unleashed and add tracks and cars of various brands.
I don't think it's possible and it pisses me off
It is, there's a bunch of mod cars, just not a lot of them, since it's probably a slightly more involved process compared to the older games due to the more complex physics. It's a shame because it would be the closest you could get to a good, '90s PC simcade with road cars and tracks.
Of course we could also become the change we want to see in the world, late '90s low poly models aren't terribly hard to make.
I want to correct myself, there are a ton of mod cars. But they're the usual "rips from another game with 10 times the polycount of the original cars" that look like complete shit.
you don't need more than aircooled Porsches.. even the 996 was too much for the game. should've stopped at 993.
Pretty appropriate I got that Ganker [eurobeat intensifies] ad up top. Music does make it both special and no longer fit to GoG. What would be the modern equivalent?
Carbon is better.
TO THE WINDOOOOOOOWS
TO THE WALLS
TILL THE SWEAT DRIPS FROM MY BALLS
At the time I felt like these were cheesy as frick, never was much into NFS, but 20 years later I bought them all for my GameCube and they are really slick racers, the style really is amazing, they pulled it off well, and I never watched a single Fast and Furious movie.
>BRRRRUM DUM DUM
>DUM DAH DAH DAH DUM DUM
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH
The only version of this game that I have ever played, was on the GBA.
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