The fact that we somehow ended up with a generation that is more technologically illiterate than boomers is baffling.
Literally all they know is smartphones and game consoles, and even that only to the extent of downloading an app from the store.
No, making money off tech moronation has never been more difficult because you are a white male pleb who will make $30K per year in a major (D) city while the african female appointed over you as your corporate-appointed manager makes 6 figures plus reparations
With GenZ, the human civilization is doomed to fail. They not have real computers, his shitty parents refuse get a computer. They also seem overly impressed by the 75-years-old dudes running any political party .
They use phones for everything, I remember students asking if GIMP exist in iphone
>With GenZ, the human civilization is doomed to fail
You're thinking in the wrong direction, anon. Human civilization was doomed when the Second israeli War ended and the eternal anglo gave the israelite a blank check to migrate around the globe and speak falsehoods about 'equality' between the white and the colored races.
i built my first PC without any issues and got it to work immediately after assembling for the first time, just do you research and follow a guide/motherboard manual
I built my first last year and has no problems. I tried getting an AMD system to post without installing the graphics card. When I realized my mistake I just plugged in the GPU and all was fine. It's ridiculously simple unless you have doodoo for brains.
I just frick everything up and would just rather someone who gets paid to do it for a living build it. Plus the computer shop I know is always having deals on computers so it's not that much of a rip off.
>I'm just saying you could spend it on PC parts and save money building it yourself
I've been looking here recently and I honest to god don't know if that's true anymore. I priced a build using my own case, my own PSU, my own fans, against a prebuilt of equal specs and the prebuilt was like $20 more from Best Buy. And it came with a new case, PSU, and fans. I think manufacturer wholesale prices are really offsetting the cost.
true. but optimally you owe nothing. i got a $10 federal return this year and like $1k state, i don't know why i got that for state so i'll need to double check my withholdings
Tax refunds are a fundamentally nonsense concept and I do not fricking understand what people are thinking when they do this shit
You are trying to target as close to $0 as possible without underpaying
It's okay to be slightly off in your calculations but overpaying the government $15000 is just fricking moronic
It sort of makes sense now because they're doing the Obama era shit again of using the IRS to harass people especially people that are independent workers and not leashed by companies that act as extrafederal authorities.
In most cases the overpayment isn't deliberate.
If you have two sources of income and one or both of those sources vary significantly from month to month in terms of how much you receive, it can be hard to not over or under pay without spending significant time calculating things out.
Most people just prefer to set their taxation for such variable income sources at a "safe" amount that will overpay a little bit because dealing with unexpected debt is much more annoying than waiting a bit to get your overpayment returned to you.
t. I have two sources of income that both change pretty significantly from month to month and I do this, though I don't overpay as much as this anon does I still get a decent return each year (which again, I'd rather that over wasting time every month meticulously calculating an exact tax amount or dealing with tax debt that I then have to repay).
this dude loaned $15k to the government for zero interest, holy shit lmao. talk to a tax israelite and get your shit sorted, this number should be as close to $0 as possible.
prebuilt is good but you most likely will have to replace everything, even the motherboard, when the time comes
make sure the one you are getting is good enough, or you'll regret it
Dude, use PC part picker, ground yourself so you don't generate static and plug things in to clearly labeled slots on your motherboard that're mapped out in a packet that comes with the motherboard. I walked a fricking 8 year old through it while deliberately trying to give as few instructions as possible because the condition of my birthday gift to them was they have to assemble it with minimal assistance.
If you can't do it, you can't use a step by step manual to do what an 8 year old can with ease. They're 13 now and build PCs for their friends.
buy some homosexuals used pc from facebook marketplace. i got an insane deal on mine a few years ago when i bought it. i've since upgraded the cpu and rebuilt into a new case, but it was great as it came.
buying a 4070 TI super to throw in it next month
I'm this way too. It's just such a fricking headache building computers. It's simple and easy to figure out as long as everything works, but that never happens. Two months after you build it a piece will break and you'll learn through autistic search engine combing that apparently that /specific/ year the company fricked up and produced a bunch of bad cards or something. Happens to me every time. Or it just so happens that despite all the good reviews it actually needs some very specific driver tweaking or no games will properly run even though it's a high-end mainstream card because you forgot that the motherboard you bought needs some weird sound driver that just happens to break everything else. Frick it, man. I'm tired of the headaches, I just want something that will work.
>I will pay for convenience
Not a bad idea >knowing that they built it so it's not fricked
Make sure you at least do enough research to judge whether they ripped you off or skimped on build quality. The pre-built market is notoriously predatory.
I just ordered a PC from maingear, comparing the cost of building it myself I paid about a $200 premium to have it built and shipped for me. Worth it to me.
All you need to know about a pre-built is if it can be upgraded. The most casual thing you'll be looking at is adding more storage, ram, or a better graphics card. Check what the pre-build can upgrade to. There are plenty of videos on the most popular prebuilts.
amazon has a solid refurbished guy i wont say who but they sell for $80-90. micro pc, runs win10 pro, i could run just cause 2 at 60fps low settings, so it's not a total potato.
intel i3 quadcore, 8gb, 290gb ssd
that scenario is literally impossible unless you somehow you plug a pcie cord from the power supply to the gpu and back to the power supply again in some asinine daisy chain setup
If an 11 year old black kid from a shitty part of london can do it then anybody can
Don't let a moronic s○y from the verge make it look harder than it actually is
Throwing the editor under the bus
I don't think so, buddy, the editor may have done a shit job too but he wasn't the one who bukkake'd the CPU with thermal paste
>If we all do it, no more racism >We'll all look like the exact same mass of brown, so no more racism!
How are there so many grown men and women who are this ignorant of how genetics works and are naive enough to believe any of this, when every race and ethnicity shits on others of their own for being lighter/darker? I'm pretty fricking ignorant and even I know this is the most room temperature on a winter's day IQ take; just think about it for one minute or go observe actual fricking people outside of your gated community.
Also this
>eugenics is bad and anyone who thinks it's ok is a nazi, we're all heckin' valid! >here's why race mixing produces superior offspring
type of hypocrisy anon brought up. I can't tell anymore if everyone is just repeating things they know are lies to avoid being ostracized or if they're this moronic.
I once tried to build a pc but I failed to get it working for reasons that were legitimately beyond my control (Long story) What is the cheapest way I could try to build one? Not even for the pc itself but legitimately just to find out if I could under more normal conditions. I've considered buying the cheapest possible working parts and just selling the result on ebay if I succeed.
I mean, I've built plenty of PCs but my last one I just paid the shop like 200 bucks to assemble it after selecting all the parts. I'd still do it if a friend asks but I just can't be bothered anymore doing it for myself
The worst part about PC building is the uncomfortable amount of force it takes to install the ram and 12pin connector to the MoBo.
Installing the cpu cooler sucks too. Everything else is ezpz
i build my first pc last year and it wasn't, surprisingly, very hard. if i can do it, everyone can, make sure that all components are comparably to each other and you should be fine.
tbh he shouldnt have the job he has based on that article >im here for the job interview >i dont know anything about computers >youre hired! >proceeds to blow up a computer
Genuine question even in spite of the fact that they are obviously lying through their teeth being a tangential gaming journalist and this isn't a sponsored article.
How the frick could you frick up hooking up a PC to where it instantly ignites?
In WHAT WAY could you frick up building a PC that's apparently common enough for someone seemingly knowledgeable with it would be fine with saying "I was afraid of that" like it'd be a common thing.
I just plugged my grafix card in wrong and it started smoking when I went to go take a piss.
The other time I just plugged it in and the power exploded.
If the psu's connectors or the whole psu is fricked then yes, your computer can catch on fire, i've also heard of morons doing custom water cooling and fricking up the design so badly it instantly leaks the fluid and shorts everything inside.
I am a moron and i dont get why people that dont feel like building their own pc just buy whatever parts themselves then tell their local hardware store to assembly them for a small fee
I know some places it's cheaper, but if you pay someone to build it for you, you're kind of skipping one of the major important cost savers with building a pc.
Life is too time consuming to just follow whatever is trendy. PCs are convenient, but PC gaming is time consuming and costs a ton of money. Consoles will always be the more convenient, quick option... until the israelite companies get way too greedy.
Yeah, I remember the last time I tried to play a game on my PS4, took like an hour to download and after all of that I got kneecapped at the end because I didn't have PS+.
I only keep the thing around so I can watch Yuyushiki on Bluray and DVD
Steam Deck shows that you can have the "console experience" on a fricking mobile no less, and have it without greedy garbage proprietary console ecosystems. Consoles and PCs these days tend to have similar levels of convenience and quick play these days, with PC also having way more freedom and control. THis is mostly because of israelite greedy companies who have gotten way too greedy and want a platform to control.
it really comes down to age. in your 20's you are more likely to take risks. 32 and onward people prefer being comfortable. at least a lot of people do. i'm still a moron
>going out of your comfort zone to learn something new
Good >going out of your comfort zone to learn something new involving thousands of dollars worth of parts
Bad
There’s nothing to break, plus YouTube shows you ever step in detail. At most you can’t find out where to plug something in and your motherboard manual or Google will tell you. I built a pc in 2004 with no instructions and I was literally smoking crack at the time. I remember at sunrise when I was about to install windows on it I was on the floor with a flashlight looking for bits of crack rock I had spilled. Wasn’t much different than adderall to me, which I switched to.
PC building isn't for everyone and there is a certain amount of stuff that isn't just >put the right tabs in the right slots
Its a LOT easier than it used to be (unless you're going for a custom liquid cooling system but that' its own separate care, building, testing and maintaining thing that 95% of people don't need, it costs a frickload, and has diminishing returns these days) but it still takes some work and there's a certain amount of "knowing' when things are correct.
For instance, a problem I see from a lot of first time builders is >some component is not evenly and all the way into the slot, mostly the RAM.
so they boot up and the RAM, a SSD or worst of all an entire PCI-E device is not seated properly and thus isn't detected. not hard to fix, but you have to know how to push it down properly and evenly, AND not to push it so hard you frick it up or do something stupid like refuse to pres the PCI-E retention tabs when removing it and thus damage one or more thing. A noob not knowing the 'Do I need to push harder or is not not moving because it seated wrong and I'm going to break shit" issue is significant.
and I haven't even gotten to the CPU. The biggest hardware issue is getting the CPU seated, TIM applied, and the cooler properly seated. Yes, I have seen people do the "mayo on the goddamn pins" thing before and its a hell of a cleanup job to not bend anything. Without that level of stupid though, its still an issue to get the proper amount of paste down and depending on the chip not frick it up and have it seated properly with whatever cooler. Not impossible but its not intuitive either nor is just watching some zoomer video >okay bro now you put the paste down and the heatsink on top
isn't as helpful instead of some 50 year old dude who sits there and explains the process as well as exactly the amount of paste that is best for your particular proc and cooler. SO its not "hard" to learn but does require learning and some aren't up for it
You seem to not understand how quickly the 4080s was scalped day one. I stayed up all night to get the founders edition, refreshing constantly. I am very please I managed to obtain any model. And again, it's a fine model of card, the only flaw is that you can't raise the power limit for overclocking. Which again, is a non issue because I specifically bought the card for path tracing and you can't overclock the ray tracing cores on ANY model of card. Raster means so little to me that I would have bought a card incapable of raster.
I built my PC 4 years ago.
Overall the actual steps are easy, I just ran into some issues because I had chosen a small case and had an AIO watercooler, so I had to be really careful with shoving in the radiator and getting it to fit.
The wires are also a mess too, probably what most people will struggle with.
My advice to anyone starting would be to look at completed builds on pcpartpicker that have the things you know you want to know everything will work out.
>Got a 2L pc case >Brother wants me to help pick out stuff for a girlfriend >She doesn't have a lot of space why doesn't she get the tiny case like you got
I built my last PC while drunk and my cat was supervising and smelling each part to make sure it was up to his standards. You're a moron if you frick up building a PC.
I tried watching a build your own pc video and my brain went blank after 30 seconds. I had a coworker build my pc and do my upgrades. I'm terrible with my hands and can barely handle anything more complex than laundry and jumping a car battery. I couldn't change a tire with a gun to my head.
The duality of Ganker. What games do you frickers play?
I tried watching a build your own pc video and my brain went blank after 30 seconds. I had a coworker build my pc and do my upgrades. I'm terrible with my hands and can barely handle anything more complex than laundry and jumping a car battery. I couldn't change a tire with a gun to my head.
I mean that sounds fine if he's not like, playing hogsharts legacy which needs 2 4090tis in sli to play in hd at a decent frame rate, or Dusty Knees 2: DLC 287 "Return of the: Why are we still here activision please let us die"
It is, every couple months i swap out parts, dust it off, redo the cable management or change the thermal paste and i fully disassemble the thing before putting it back together again, i literally build mine over and over again for fun.
I don't believe I'm on einstein levels of intelligence, but I built my first pc with barely any memetube videos available in my language at like 15yo, yeah, the parts selection was subpar, but I literally didn't knew better at the time.
Why are people so intimidated?
Analyze details and specs
Read the fricking manuals
Install the standoffs so you don't short your motherboard
And plug the psu cables in the correct power slots
If you can't do that then you're actually moronic
I’d say I’m pretty moronic. Scored 100 on an IQ test, spent half a day the first time building my PC at 14 putting my sweaty hands all over my PC parts, the second time you do it you just have it memorised.
It is adult Lego or more like an adult shape sorting toy. I’ve done it with zero instructions since the first build (not including some quirks that have changed over the years like putting RAM in specific slots for XMP) and have helped friends build their own and even had a relatively decent side hustle doing it in my early 20’s.
With beginners I worry less about assembling the hardware and more about configuring the BIOS and installing the OS+Drivers.
You can follow a video guide and get the hardware right easily, but BIOS settings are still rather technical and normies don't know what most of it means, plus there's always a fair chance you'll run into a bug/crash related to the BIOS or drivers. Especially if you're using a newer chipset that may still have some teething issues.
The number of people using prebuilts that don't even have XMP enabled must be astronomical.
Yeah see, this is the part that really intimidates me. I don't even know what the frick XMP even is.
dude I'm 33 and there really isn't any optimization you need to do at all. Plug in the USB and install Windows. You don't need to overclock at all. The only settings you should be messing with are your monitors refresh rate and maybe night mode. Also your RAM may need literally one thing switched to have it run at full potential but thats not even overclocking it.
>33
Youngster. But thanks for your input, honestly. It's a little reassuring to hear.
The article doesn't actually say what they fricked up? It only mentions "an ancient SSD catches on fire and kicks off a chain reaction of disaster" but as a hypothetical.
How the frick does an SSD catch fire?
>building computers is scawy and hard!
I have never met the target audience for articles like these. Whence cometh such fear laden prose? Serving as a ward against dullards can't be the whole story.
Yeah but water loops have the same pitfalls now that they did back in the day. IDE is a wildly different beast of pain compared to smooth sailing sata.
>Built PC last month >Turns out the io on the motherboard was warped and can't fit the plate for it between it & the case >Case's front io had broken jack for sound output, will get shit ton of static if I use headphones >One of the ram slots was finicky as frick and had to constantly re-insert it until it recognized the ram >Shit worked perfectly (except the headphones thing) in the end anyway
what the frick are people doing to cause their shit to go up in flames
I'm a complete blithering fricking moron who failed grade 7 and dropped out of school and I've managed to put four computers together successfully, with no issues.
My biggest hiccup came from me forgetting to switch the i/o on the psu and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn on
i don't know HOW people frick this shit up
>intelligence comes from going to public school full of apes
anon you're better than thinking a diploma matters, hell even people with bachelor's and master's are working at walmart and mcdonalds
I'd say at the very least Primary education is at least controlled via the fact that they are subject to public scrutiny and the societal need for competent offspring.
But no you really can't trust public schools with that any more, in fact, you might be better off trusting them to intellectually damage your child leaving them knowing less than nothing about a variety of topics.
Yes anon, being able to complete basic actually necessary tasks is competency. A specialized skill like electronics maintenance isn't.
It's why being an auto mechanic is a trade
If you struggle with assembling a PC you have objectively low intelligence and are likely too lazy to develop an extremely simple skill. This is the changing your oil of electronics.
I built a pc for the first time yesterday and it all just worked on first startup. It was as easy as grabbing a cable and checking the motherboard manual for where it's supposed to go. I did one last look at the internals before closing the case and realized I forgot to take the plastic film off the i/o shield but I'm too lazy to unscrew the motherboard just for that.
I’m pretty dumb and I managed to build my own. Just don’t clutter your pc with unnecessary shit like rgb and crap and it’s literally like at most 5 parts you need to plug in
It's one thing to build a PC, but it's another thing to install the OS and optimize your rig's performance. I look at the interface for that shit and it's like looking at Chinese. What even is the proper settings? What the frick is overclocking and should I turn it on or off? Is Windows 11 really that bad, or am I just being memed on? I'm too much of a Boomerllennial for this shit.
dude I'm 33 and there really isn't any optimization you need to do at all. Plug in the USB and install Windows. You don't need to overclock at all. The only settings you should be messing with are your monitors refresh rate and maybe night mode. Also your RAM may need literally one thing switched to have it run at full potential but thats not even overclocking it.
I see optimizing fan curves the same as overclocking honestly.
It's nice to have, but the average end user doesn't NEED to do it to have a working rig.
I end up doing a new build like every 5 years and fricking dread it every time. It's a tremendous ballache and miserable couple of hours but then it's done and I don't have to think about it for a while. Never had any issues outside of some bad RAM that got returned and swapped out no question, but I still fricking hate it. My brother used to bring in his parts and pay £30 for the local PC shop to put them together and I'd do the same now if they were still in business.
My last build was in 2019 so I suppose I'll have that to look forward to later this year.
My first PC was entirely used parts from ebay and a mix of the cheapest RAM I could find. Nothing blew up but Anons were confused when I posted the specs and surprised it even turned on.
You have to be even more moronic than I am to blow up a computer and I had to attend the literal moron room in school.
Building a pc is the ultimate cringe shit. You're not building anything. Putting a gingerbread house together requires more skill. >but muh RGB LEDs!!!!
They look fricking stupid.
Owning a desktop pc at all = you're a fricking loser
Owning a gaming pc = you're a major fricking loser
RGB shit is a meme, but the ultimate point of PC building in my opinion is getting 100% efficiency out of the parts you paid for.
Proper silent airflow, no throttling, overclocking as far as it'll go safely, etc.
this is just shitty optimization which far too many games have >load up Martha is Dead >3060ti has no issues running it 1440p high >pause game >pause menu apparently runs in 10,000fps+ >PC flies out the window and resettles on Mars
>run cyberpunk with all the RT shit on >gpu runs cool
vs >play indie game >no limit for fps >950+fps >have to turn AC on despite it being freezing outside
>run cyberpunk with all the RT shit on >gpu runs cool
vs >play indie game >no limit for fps >950+fps >have to turn AC on despite it being freezing outside
just set a framerate cap to your monitor's maximum refresh rate. Both nvidia and amd's driver software let you do it
PC building is insanely trivial and has been since late 2000s. >you will never go back to the days of installing drivers for every piece of hardware including your mouse and keyboard
At this point the "Building a pc is easy bro, just do it, you can do it solo" is spread by companies so you'd break some expensive part and buy it again.
Brother, this generation is an epidemic. My cousin bought a fricking prebuilt only to fricking have to pay it off then bought another prebuilt because a game he played was optimized like shit and he didn't wanna just troubleshoot it. Game still lagged and he's still paying it off now.
Why are taxes this fricked in Muttland? Theyre crap in Bongland but HMRC are semi decent relative to the shit Ive seen from the IRS.(Admittingly I use an accountant so I dont really know too much.)
Building a PC is not hard. But it's definitely not for everyone. If you don't have proper training, you will fail and panic. And building a PC because you watched YouTube videos about building PCs is a bad idea. You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
>You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
I built a Pentium 3 machine at the age of 14 in 2001, I never had to. Just read the manuals and cross your fingers. Oh and triple check everything.
>And building a PC because you watched YouTube videos about building PCs is a bad idea
No it isn't. >You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
No you don't. Everything you need to know you can easily learn on the internet if you have at least a triple digit IQ. Calling it Legos is not much of exaggeration.
>No you don't. Everything you need to know you can easily learn on the internet if you have at least a triple digit IQ.
Even following instructions, there's plenty of little ways to frick up.
Accidentally putting the fans in the wrong way, accidentally using too much or too little thermal paste, installing an AIO with the lines pinched or going against gravity, installing PSU the wrong way so the intake chokes, using the wrong ram slots for dual channel and not setting xmp, bending a tiny pin in an LGA socket 0.1mm out of place so a random part stops working etc.
The only thing you MIGHT need as a beginner is something like pcpartpicker just so you know your parts are compatible with each other. You're an imbecile if you can't build a modern PC just by watching a video or two.
RAM bandwidth past a specific point in this day and age is a meme unless you're doing something like heavy data processing constantly. If you're gaming, don't bother.
The gpu is fine but I wouldn't spend money on a 8th gen i7. There's not point in upgrading to an already outdated cpu. There's some decent budget options on am4 and intel's 12/13-th gen cpus, or as you said, you could go am5, but that's definitely more expensive.
the 5600 is still a great cpu. As for am5, it had a rocky launch but the issues have been mostly ironed out. I think some motherboards still suffer from slow boot times, but that's about it
I just wanna play Palworld and make porn comics on Koikatsu. I don't wanna spend extra for the 3D Am4 CPU if I won't be playing AAA sloppa on 4k. I just got a new 1080p monitor. That's all I need to be happy.
i just built a new comp and the worst part was researching parts. every youtube video looks like this. and all the fake ai pages with jumbled thrown together useless info.
One thing is don’t go for a meme mini build. You’ll just end up going bigger later. But either way, get a $170-$200 case because the quality of life with the whole experience is much better. And make sure your mobo has the USBC front panel header of your case has a USBC port on the front. That really pissed me off when I overlooked that. You’ll end up having to do a workaround by running it to a header with slower speeds or just leave it as a dead port, neither choice sits right with autism.
It's not super daunting but there are tricky bits and it's silly how people here are determined to pretend otherwise
you aren't that likely to actually break anything but you should be careful, you're more likely to frick up when upgrading if you don't realize you can't reuse your old PSU cables
>build new PC >don't even know where half the case lights plug into so my powerswitch doesn't light up and only one of the built in RGB fans lights up >cable management is a nightmare so I stuff everything into the bottom or let it hang
I lack patience and I'm easily frustrated by tech
but at least it works
>build new PC >disable all of the lights because it's annoying and my PC isn't a circus tent
I'll even disable the light on the power button of the case.
I've built 5 or so PCs at this point but I've never done a CPU/GPU upgrade on an existing system before. I'm too lazy to figure out if my existing power supply is suitable for more powerful parts and just buy everything new when I build new.
People are dumb, lazy and easily taken advantage of.
This is why I don't build pc's for profit. I prefer helping or supervising a build but if someone wants something custom done I charge for the parts and at most a hundred dollars for my time depending on build cost. Most of the time I just ask for a nice bottle of whiskey or bourbon for my troubles.
It's also that people get unreasonably stressed over working with expensive parts. I walked a buddy through his first build and his hands were literally shaking trying to slot in the CPU.
I'd imagine some people would pay the premium to not deal with the stress.
i dont understand how anyone could frick up building a pc
you dont even have to set drives to master/slave anymore, or change jumpers on the motherboard, or even deal with IRQs
Get rid of the stand mixer because it can make cakes, puddings, breads, sauces, pastas, grind meat, whip cream/butter without physical exertion. There's no way myself or anyone I care about could learn how to use such a device without resorting to getting fat from only making cakes with the mixer.
I ended up going with the 5800x3d.
So the cpu, 64gb of 3600 ram, strix mobo ended up being $580. The am5 setup I was going to go full on with 7950x3d so the whole system would have been almost $400 more in the end. I’ll splurge again later this year I’m sure.
The ultimate money saving technique is to buy a 4080 Super right now and run it at 50% power. Then every January you up it 10%. You’ll be so used to the performance that on 6 years it’ll be time to upgrade and will have never felt too slow.
No one is spending 1000$ on one part of their pc moron. There's a reason a majority of people use a 1060 of a 1660. You probably piss your pants at the idea someone would buy an amd gpu too.
Buying the $1000 GPU might actually be cheaper in the long run, provided you aren't one of those people who NEEDS to upgrade every gen.
The people who bought a 1080ti for MSRP at launch are probably still laughing.
>built 5 PCs of my own and helped a handful of friends build theirs >75% of the time I forget to plug the PSU into the CPU power on the motherboard and scream on the inside when it doesn't post or do anything when we first try to turn it on
Am I the only moron who just plugs in the 24pin and always thinks they're done with the mobo and psu?
It especially sucks when your case is so small or shitty or the air cooler is so large you don’t have room to plug in the cpu without taking things back apart.
For cases with shit clearance, I'd just plug in the mobo and cpu connectors before I drop the mobo into the case.
It's a lot easier to feed the cables into the PSU than it is the other way around.
Sometimes your brain is on autopilot and you just do stupid shit you should know better about. I once did troubleshooting for about 20 minutes wondering what the frick was wrong with my monitor after moving the computer to a different room, and felt like a complete moron when I realized the problem was that I plugged the displayport cable into the motherboard instead of the GPU.
>be a complete moron >built maybe 6 computers over the last 12 years >every time just followed along a video guide and was done in under an hour with absolutely 0 issues
this shit really aint hard at all
just recently bought a prebuilt that i got an insane black friday deal on though, been too busy with work to even bother setting it up/swapping shit off my old pc so its still just sitting in the box lul
The only thing that's genuinely not idiot-proof are plugging in modular power supply cables. Different PSU manufacturers can have the same keyed form factors for different pinouts, which can cause shorts or over/undervolting, and, by extension, magic smoke and dead components. I lost a CD drive and a fan controller to this oversight. I now always keep PSU boxes and any cables that come with them stay in those boxes, rather than being congregated in a singular location.
I know of people who should know what they're doing fricking up swapping a nvme ssd because they lost grip of the screw making it jump and scratch the motherboard damaging the circuits
it is crazy man. I wanted to build a PC so I simply looked up resources and followed a guide.
There was enough resources to make it *piss* fricking easy, but just removed enough from being it just werks-tier streamlined that a normie wouldnt be completely handheld through every step which is why they think its some crazy smart person luxury hobby
Built my first PC last year, everything was pretty simple except trying to figure out where all the wires went. my power supply came with a ton of shit i didnt need, and most of it wasnt labeled
>Flames shot out of the computer
What a fantastic mental image. Can some Anon generate an image of two sois freaking out because there computer is shooting flames out of the side.
Never got the elitism behind building a pc.
You're not special for figuring out how to push a chip into a slot. It's less difficult than assembling your desk or bedframe.
I am a noob. If I use a 1-2tb for Windows and games that need it, can I install a HDD for my home made porn movies? Or do I need a SATA SSD to not frick up transfer speeds?
The Verge filtered millions of midwits
For Zoomers this is true, because they can't even use Windows
The fact that we somehow ended up with a generation that is more technologically illiterate than boomers is baffling.
Literally all they know is smartphones and game consoles, and even that only to the extent of downloading an app from the store.
>than boomers is baffling.
No it isn't. It was predicted ever since Windows 96 and AOL became a thing.
Well good thing is that you can benefit from it.Making money on the moronation was never more easy.
No, making money off tech moronation has never been more difficult because you are a white male pleb who will make $30K per year in a major (D) city while the african female appointed over you as your corporate-appointed manager makes 6 figures plus reparations
With GenZ, the human civilization is doomed to fail. They not have real computers, his shitty parents refuse get a computer. They also seem overly impressed by the 75-years-old dudes running any political party .
They use phones for everything, I remember students asking if GIMP exist in iphone
>With GenZ, the human civilization is doomed to fail
You're thinking in the wrong direction, anon. Human civilization was doomed when the Second israeli War ended and the eternal anglo gave the israelite a blank check to migrate around the globe and speak falsehoods about 'equality' between the white and the colored races.
it's like buckets inside buckets if that helps these morons
i built my first PC without any issues and got it to work immediately after assembling for the first time, just do you research and follow a guide/motherboard manual
I built my first last year and has no problems. I tried getting an AMD system to post without installing the graphics card. When I realized my mistake I just plugged in the GPU and all was fine. It's ridiculously simple unless you have doodoo for brains.
I'm gonna spend my tax return on a new computer. I'm just buying a prebuilt from a computer store. Just getting something with a good cpu and gpu.
No no. Let them filter.
>prebuilt
based rich man with not enough time on his ha-
>tax return
based moron
what do you spend your tax returns on?
PC parts. I'm just saying you could spend it on PC parts and save money building it yourself
I just frick everything up and would just rather someone who gets paid to do it for a living build it. Plus the computer shop I know is always having deals on computers so it's not that much of a rip off.
I'm sorry I was rude, anon. I understand, I mess up too and there are nuances sometimes you gotta look out for. I hope you have fun with your new PC
>I'm just saying you could spend it on PC parts and save money building it yourself
I've been looking here recently and I honest to god don't know if that's true anymore. I priced a build using my own case, my own PSU, my own fans, against a prebuilt of equal specs and the prebuilt was like $20 more from Best Buy. And it came with a new case, PSU, and fans. I think manufacturer wholesale prices are really offsetting the cost.
You have to buy locally cash in hand from some Chud on craigslist or fb marketplace to get the best deal
Internet resale market value is stupidly high
youre not supposed to get a tax return, that just means you gave an interest free loan to the government for a year.
Fine with me
Nothing against being stupid, you have good company in this world fren.
Better than still "owing" them money.
true. but optimally you owe nothing. i got a $10 federal return this year and like $1k state, i don't know why i got that for state so i'll need to double check my withholdings
hookers and blow
I'd rather a computer because they last longer than either of those.
Been saving it the last 3 years.
A new(used) car 🙁
still waiting on mine
I kneel
did you pay 11 grand in taxes
Tax refunds are a fundamentally nonsense concept and I do not fricking understand what people are thinking when they do this shit
You are trying to target as close to $0 as possible without underpaying
It's okay to be slightly off in your calculations but overpaying the government $15000 is just fricking moronic
It sort of makes sense now because they're doing the Obama era shit again of using the IRS to harass people especially people that are independent workers and not leashed by companies that act as extrafederal authorities.
In most cases the overpayment isn't deliberate.
If you have two sources of income and one or both of those sources vary significantly from month to month in terms of how much you receive, it can be hard to not over or under pay without spending significant time calculating things out.
Most people just prefer to set their taxation for such variable income sources at a "safe" amount that will overpay a little bit because dealing with unexpected debt is much more annoying than waiting a bit to get your overpayment returned to you.
t. I have two sources of income that both change pretty significantly from month to month and I do this, though I don't overpay as much as this anon does I still get a decent return each year (which again, I'd rather that over wasting time every month meticulously calculating an exact tax amount or dealing with tax debt that I then have to repay).
this isn't free money this is money you gave to israel and ukraine that you're being reimbursed for
Wow anon, nobody knew that, thanks for letting us know.
and people say Isreal are the bad guys
for what purpose
takes a few weeks for it to process once they start accepting returns
No dude, why would you have your withholding set up as it is, why the frick did you withhold that much
>still waiting on mine
Been waiting on mine for years now.
this dude loaned $15k to the government for zero interest, holy shit lmao. talk to a tax israelite and get your shit sorted, this number should be as close to $0 as possible.
Bro adjust your w4. Wtf.
prebuilt is good but you most likely will have to replace everything, even the motherboard, when the time comes
make sure the one you are getting is good enough, or you'll regret it
Dude, use PC part picker, ground yourself so you don't generate static and plug things in to clearly labeled slots on your motherboard that're mapped out in a packet that comes with the motherboard. I walked a fricking 8 year old through it while deliberately trying to give as few instructions as possible because the condition of my birthday gift to them was they have to assemble it with minimal assistance.
If you can't do it, you can't use a step by step manual to do what an 8 year old can with ease. They're 13 now and build PCs for their friends.
>They're 13 now
>They're
>They
hmmmmmmmmmm
They has been used as a unisex pronoun for literally centuries moron.
>using the r*tard slur
H M M M M M M
That just means they's more reliable within the notion of communicating the historic usage of grammar
>PC part picker
Horrible website
buy some homosexuals used pc from facebook marketplace. i got an insane deal on mine a few years ago when i bought it. i've since upgraded the cpu and rebuilt into a new case, but it was great as it came.
buying a 4070 TI super to throw in it next month
Just build it yourself homie. You'll get better parts.
I'm this way too. It's just such a fricking headache building computers. It's simple and easy to figure out as long as everything works, but that never happens. Two months after you build it a piece will break and you'll learn through autistic search engine combing that apparently that /specific/ year the company fricked up and produced a bunch of bad cards or something. Happens to me every time. Or it just so happens that despite all the good reviews it actually needs some very specific driver tweaking or no games will properly run even though it's a high-end mainstream card because you forgot that the motherboard you bought needs some weird sound driver that just happens to break everything else. Frick it, man. I'm tired of the headaches, I just want something that will work.
>I just want something that will work.
same bro, I will pay for convenience and knowing that they built it so it's not fricked.
>I will pay for convenience
Not a bad idea
>knowing that they built it so it's not fricked
Make sure you at least do enough research to judge whether they ripped you off or skimped on build quality. The pre-built market is notoriously predatory.
the computer shop has been in service for like 20+ years. I trust em
When was the last time you built a pc, 1997?
You're very unlucky
I had a motherboard shit on me after a year on my first pc but that's it and it wasn't costly
I just ordered a PC from maingear, comparing the cost of building it myself I paid about a $200 premium to have it built and shipped for me. Worth it to me.
All you need to know about a pre-built is if it can be upgraded. The most casual thing you'll be looking at is adding more storage, ram, or a better graphics card. Check what the pre-build can upgrade to. There are plenty of videos on the most popular prebuilts.
seems good
During the gpu price hike I got great deals on prebuilts compared to buying the actual fricking card, how good is the pricing now?
Building one is cheaper.
And its not hard.
Plenty of videos on YouTube that walk you completely through it.
amazon has a solid refurbished guy i wont say who but they sell for $80-90. micro pc, runs win10 pro, i could run just cause 2 at 60fps low settings, so it's not a total potato.
intel i3 quadcore, 8gb, 290gb ssd
He's right, you can't just slap any two bricks together but it's basically Lego if all your parts have matching sockets
built my 3rd pc, last one was 10 years ago
hardware was pretty easy but i have to troubleshoot some driver bullshit
*kisses you on the cheek*
5th for me, but before my most recent one last year my previous one was 11 years ago.
Imagine getting upstaged by someone 8+ years younger when even less people were doing it (but still plenty)
4090 or maybe an old Geforce 480
Despite how stupid this is, he mogs more than half this board
How does Ganker lives knowing a fricking nigglet is smarter than you?
that scenario is literally impossible unless you somehow you plug a pcie cord from the power supply to the gpu and back to the power supply again in some asinine daisy chain setup
Couldn't he have some second-hand GPU with a short circuit or something like that?
Maybe but that has nothing to do with building it yourself, just not buying from China.
If an 11 year old black kid from a shitty part of london can do it then anybody can
Don't let a moronic s○y from the verge make it look harder than it actually is
the niglet didn't build a pc he invented it. put some respect on his name
Even my fat moronic 13 year brother did it. I bought the parts and he easily put it together. Some people are just too moronic.
if you click on a youtube video then you can build a pc
>clicked a video to explain the process
>asked a familiar to help you
sorry, but you didn't build a pc
homosexual you didn't build a PC either. Did you manufacture and research the parts?
I built my first PC at 14. If you want to do it and you have the money, you have no excuse.
>Watch 2 or 3 youtube tutorials
>go to pcpartpicker
>if you can't do it after this kys because you're a moron
>the verge
isnt this guy from the verge?
Yep. And today I will remind them:
He redeemed himself basterd b***h stop bullying him
>linus race mixing tips
god i hate canadians so much it's unreal
what happened to Emily?
You can tell he still has no idea how to build a PC.
lies
the first PC he ever upgraded from 2000 to XP when he was four was on the floor with his dad
He's black. His dad hightailed it out of his life before he was even born.
Throwing the editor under the bus
I don't think so, buddy, the editor may have done a shit job too but he wasn't the one who bukkake'd the CPU with thermal paste
He do got dat BBC (Big builder wiener) doe
>LTT
>Very cute babies
At least he's not a hypocrite.
Yeah fair point
>white nerd compensating by marrying an Asian
This is very common these days. On Linus's defense, this is cope on his part.
GOLEM GET YE GONE
GOLEM GET YE GONE
>eugenics is bad and anyone who thinks it's ok is a nazi, we're all heckin' valid!
>here's why race mixing produces superior offspring
>If we all do it, no more racism
>We'll all look like the exact same mass of brown, so no more racism!
How are there so many grown men and women who are this ignorant of how genetics works and are naive enough to believe any of this, when every race and ethnicity shits on others of their own for being lighter/darker? I'm pretty fricking ignorant and even I know this is the most room temperature on a winter's day IQ take; just think about it for one minute or go observe actual fricking people outside of your gated community.
Also this
type of hypocrisy anon brought up. I can't tell anymore if everyone is just repeating things they know are lies to avoid being ostracized or if they're this moronic.
I remember one guy, absolute chad, said in response to it that he didn't expect LTT to suggest defective hardware to him.
I once tried to build a pc but I failed to get it working for reasons that were legitimately beyond my control (Long story) What is the cheapest way I could try to build one? Not even for the pc itself but legitimately just to find out if I could under more normal conditions. I've considered buying the cheapest possible working parts and just selling the result on ebay if I succeed.
Yep, I successfully did it last year for the first time, and I'm a lazy moron, you have no excuse.
it is if you're not a total fricking mouth breather
If a Black person can do it and get media attention for doing it. Its moronicly easy to do.
I mean, I've built plenty of PCs but my last one I just paid the shop like 200 bucks to assemble it after selecting all the parts. I'd still do it if a friend asks but I just can't be bothered anymore doing it for myself
I built my own PC when I was 12 years old in 1998 to get ready for Half-Life. Man the frick up.
>Man the frick up.
We are discussing (biological) women here, anon...
Extremely good memories. It was all downhill after OpFor, TFC and Natural Selection.
>opening mspaint and pressing save is easy
The worst part about PC building is the uncomfortable amount of force it takes to install the ram and 12pin connector to the MoBo.
Installing the cpu cooler sucks too. Everything else is ezpz
I've been building PCs for over 20 years, I still hate fricking with coolers.
i build my first pc last year and it wasn't, surprisingly, very hard. if i can do it, everyone can, make sure that all components are comparably to each other and you should be fine.
tbh he shouldnt have the job he has based on that article
>im here for the job interview
>i dont know anything about computers
>youre hired!
>proceeds to blow up a computer
Genuine question even in spite of the fact that they are obviously lying through their teeth being a tangential gaming journalist and this isn't a sponsored article.
How the frick could you frick up hooking up a PC to where it instantly ignites?
In WHAT WAY could you frick up building a PC that's apparently common enough for someone seemingly knowledgeable with it would be fine with saying "I was afraid of that" like it'd be a common thing.
I've only ever had 2 out of my 5 computers catch on fire.
I've had 0 of the 6 of mine do that.
And one of them got rained on.
Explain.
I just plugged my grafix card in wrong and it started smoking when I went to go take a piss.
The other time I just plugged it in and the power exploded.
You're going to need to get a little more specific than "Grafix card no plug rite" for me.
It was reversed as in a 180.
How, how do you even do that?
everyone makes mistakes
>only
If the psu's connectors or the whole psu is fricked then yes, your computer can catch on fire, i've also heard of morons doing custom water cooling and fricking up the design so badly it instantly leaks the fluid and shorts everything inside.
maybe they had 240 volt power and a manual select PSU? I know this can ruin some PSU but I don't know if it will start a fire
Took me 20min to assemble my first pc
Maybe try not being moronic
I fricked up my USB3.0 connector
Did you rip it out or something? It's a giant plug with like 24 pins
>Did you rip it out
yeah
RIP
I am a moron and i dont get why people that dont feel like building their own pc just buy whatever parts themselves then tell their local hardware store to assembly them for a small fee
I know some places it's cheaper, but if you pay someone to build it for you, you're kind of skipping one of the major important cost savers with building a pc.
Built my first PC back in 2011 and I'm using it to type this post. Only thing I upgraded over the years was the RAM.
Why are adult semi-intelligent people so avert to going out of their comfort zone and learning something new?
Life is too time consuming to just follow whatever is trendy. PCs are convenient, but PC gaming is time consuming and costs a ton of money. Consoles will always be the more convenient, quick option... until the israelite companies get way too greedy.
>Consoles will always be the more convenient, quick option
idk man consoles get updates more often than Windows at this point and they take longer
Yeah, I remember the last time I tried to play a game on my PS4, took like an hour to download and after all of that I got kneecapped at the end because I didn't have PS+.
I only keep the thing around so I can watch Yuyushiki on Bluray and DVD
>Yuyushiki and BD/DVD
Superbly good taste. I have a hacked offline PS4 Pro just so I can do that for my shows
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23657484
Obligatory
Steam Deck shows that you can have the "console experience" on a fricking mobile no less, and have it without greedy garbage proprietary console ecosystems. Consoles and PCs these days tend to have similar levels of convenience and quick play these days, with PC also having way more freedom and control. THis is mostly because of israelite greedy companies who have gotten way too greedy and want a platform to control.
it really comes down to age. in your 20's you are more likely to take risks. 32 and onward people prefer being comfortable. at least a lot of people do. i'm still a moron
Past 30 you just want to throw money at problems till they go away.
>going out of your comfort zone to learn something new
Good
>going out of your comfort zone to learn something new involving thousands of dollars worth of parts
Bad
There’s nothing to break, plus YouTube shows you ever step in detail. At most you can’t find out where to plug something in and your motherboard manual or Google will tell you. I built a pc in 2004 with no instructions and I was literally smoking crack at the time. I remember at sunrise when I was about to install windows on it I was on the floor with a flashlight looking for bits of crack rock I had spilled. Wasn’t much different than adderall to me, which I switched to.
PC building isn't for everyone and there is a certain amount of stuff that isn't just
>put the right tabs in the right slots
Its a LOT easier than it used to be (unless you're going for a custom liquid cooling system but that' its own separate care, building, testing and maintaining thing that 95% of people don't need, it costs a frickload, and has diminishing returns these days) but it still takes some work and there's a certain amount of "knowing' when things are correct.
For instance, a problem I see from a lot of first time builders is
>some component is not evenly and all the way into the slot, mostly the RAM.
so they boot up and the RAM, a SSD or worst of all an entire PCI-E device is not seated properly and thus isn't detected. not hard to fix, but you have to know how to push it down properly and evenly, AND not to push it so hard you frick it up or do something stupid like refuse to pres the PCI-E retention tabs when removing it and thus damage one or more thing. A noob not knowing the 'Do I need to push harder or is not not moving because it seated wrong and I'm going to break shit" issue is significant.
and I haven't even gotten to the CPU. The biggest hardware issue is getting the CPU seated, TIM applied, and the cooler properly seated. Yes, I have seen people do the "mayo on the goddamn pins" thing before and its a hell of a cleanup job to not bend anything. Without that level of stupid though, its still an issue to get the proper amount of paste down and depending on the chip not frick it up and have it seated properly with whatever cooler. Not impossible but its not intuitive either nor is just watching some zoomer video
>okay bro now you put the paste down and the heatsink on top
isn't as helpful instead of some 50 year old dude who sits there and explains the process as well as exactly the amount of paste that is best for your particular proc and cooler. SO its not "hard" to learn but does require learning and some aren't up for it
This is a skill issue.
I've built over a dozen computers in my time. None of them have burst into flame.
My 4080 super came with the most exceptionally moronic anti sag bracket design, so I had to buy a new one.
PNY if you bought the same
>PNY
You should've bought a better board partner for that much money
>paying above msrp for a card
Lmao no. I made the correct choice. The only reason I even bought the 4080s instead of a 7900XTX was so I can play full pathtracing at 720p.
I didn't say more, I just said a better model, like Windforce
You seem to not understand how quickly the 4080s was scalped day one. I stayed up all night to get the founders edition, refreshing constantly. I am very please I managed to obtain any model. And again, it's a fine model of card, the only flaw is that you can't raise the power limit for overclocking. Which again, is a non issue because I specifically bought the card for path tracing and you can't overclock the ray tracing cores on ANY model of card. Raster means so little to me that I would have bought a card incapable of raster.
I'm sorry
Don't be, it still has the completely overspecced 4090 cooler and doesn't even exceed 70c while testing with furmark. Pny makes workstation cards.
>all you need
>not tobasco sauce in sight
u dun goofed
For me it's Tabasco® Habanero.
I tried it, the bottle is too tall to work as GPU support in my case.
>pny
OH NO NO NO
I built my PC 4 years ago.
Overall the actual steps are easy, I just ran into some issues because I had chosen a small case and had an AIO watercooler, so I had to be really careful with shoving in the radiator and getting it to fit.
The wires are also a mess too, probably what most people will struggle with.
My advice to anyone starting would be to look at completed builds on pcpartpicker that have the things you know you want to know everything will work out.
>I just ran into some issues because I had chosen a small case
classic first time builder mistake
>Got a 2L pc case
>Brother wants me to help pick out stuff for a girlfriend
>She doesn't have a lot of space why doesn't she get the tiny case like you got
I built my last PC while drunk and my cat was supervising and smelling each part to make sure it was up to his standards. You're a moron if you frick up building a PC.
The duality of Ganker. What games do you frickers play?
I'm the drunk and 99% of what I play is horror. I love being spooked, nothing gets my blood pumping like a good spooky game.
I tried watching a build your own pc video and my brain went blank after 30 seconds. I had a coworker build my pc and do my upgrades. I'm terrible with my hands and can barely handle anything more complex than laundry and jumping a car battery. I couldn't change a tire with a gun to my head.
I couldn’t jump a car battery without a YouTube video
>b550 gaming x v2
>rx 6650 xt
>Ryzen 5 4500
>generic 3200MHz ddr4
>700W power supply
>evo plus ssd
cost me like nothing and I can do everything
>>b550
>>rx 6650 xt
5 4500
>PCIe 3.0
lol you had one job
don't need to future proof, death soon brother
than why spend extra on b550 if you don't care about pcie 4.0?
it was cheaper to scramble than buy new
I mean that sounds fine if he's not like, playing hogsharts legacy which needs 2 4090tis in sli to play in hd at a decent frame rate, or Dusty Knees 2: DLC 287 "Return of the: Why are we still here activision please let us die"
>PCIe 3.0
it doesnt matter
The difficulty of building a PC is 100% determined by the design of the case.
I go caseless. If you buy a power switch it's actually viable
If you're a real man, all you need is a jumper.
Real man here, I used my car keys and screwdriver.
enter
Nah
I had my PC running in a shoebox for several years, no issues at all.
I built my first PC when I was 12 and aside from shitty cable management it lasted seven years before it was obsolete
No fricking excuses
it's EXPENSIVE
frick building it myself, i'm a dipshit
It is, every couple months i swap out parts, dust it off, redo the cable management or change the thermal paste and i fully disassemble the thing before putting it back together again, i literally build mine over and over again for fun.
If an 11 year old whiz kid from East Ham can invent a new PC, so can you! AND when you grow up, you can even get gains!
I don't believe I'm on einstein levels of intelligence, but I built my first pc with barely any memetube videos available in my language at like 15yo, yeah, the parts selection was subpar, but I literally didn't knew better at the time.
i am too lazy with the cable management. i'd rather dig trenches tbh lemme just play my vidya senpai
cable management doesn't exist anymore. its just 1 or 2 gpu power cables and that's it.
Why are people so intimidated?
Analyze details and specs
Read the fricking manuals
Install the standoffs so you don't short your motherboard
And plug the psu cables in the correct power slots
If you can't do that then you're actually moronic
Waste of time. Don't fall for boomer lies.
GPT4-fricking awful writing.
I'm gonna touch you with my face in a place and limbs in a space, you will not stop me. But you await my arrival.
If you skip glass cases, rainbow lights and put frontal USBs, yeah, it's easy.
If you build a PC and it burst to flames is because you are a fricking moron that cant be trusted with legos
I’d say I’m pretty moronic. Scored 100 on an IQ test, spent half a day the first time building my PC at 14 putting my sweaty hands all over my PC parts, the second time you do it you just have it memorised.
It is adult Lego or more like an adult shape sorting toy. I’ve done it with zero instructions since the first build (not including some quirks that have changed over the years like putting RAM in specific slots for XMP) and have helped friends build their own and even had a relatively decent side hustle doing it in my early 20’s.
With beginners I worry less about assembling the hardware and more about configuring the BIOS and installing the OS+Drivers.
You can follow a video guide and get the hardware right easily, but BIOS settings are still rather technical and normies don't know what most of it means, plus there's always a fair chance you'll run into a bug/crash related to the BIOS or drivers. Especially if you're using a newer chipset that may still have some teething issues.
The number of people using prebuilts that don't even have XMP enabled must be astronomical.
Yeah see, this is the part that really intimidates me. I don't even know what the frick XMP even is.
>33
Youngster. But thanks for your input, honestly. It's a little reassuring to hear.
The article doesn't actually say what they fricked up? It only mentions "an ancient SSD catches on fire and kicks off a chain reaction of disaster" but as a hypothetical.
How the frick does an SSD catch fire?
>building computers is scawy and hard!
I have never met the target audience for articles like these. Whence cometh such fear laden prose? Serving as a ward against dullards can't be the whole story.
Honestly I used to be really confused about this until one of my friends offered me $50 just to put his computer together.
Then it all made sense.
while building PCs is pretty easy I have fricked up a couple of times before. IDE drives were overly complicated.
You are aware anon we are in 2024, not 2004 correct? Just double checking.
I'm old. I'm sure you can still easily mess up custom water cooling loops though.
Yeah but water loops have the same pitfalls now that they did back in the day. IDE is a wildly different beast of pain compared to smooth sailing sata.
>build pc
>it just werks
>play vidya
:O
>Built PC last month
>Turns out the io on the motherboard was warped and can't fit the plate for it between it & the case
>Case's front io had broken jack for sound output, will get shit ton of static if I use headphones
>One of the ram slots was finicky as frick and had to constantly re-insert it until it recognized the ram
>Shit worked perfectly (except the headphones thing) in the end anyway
what the frick are people doing to cause their shit to go up in flames
I'm a complete blithering fricking moron who failed grade 7 and dropped out of school and I've managed to put four computers together successfully, with no issues.
My biggest hiccup came from me forgetting to switch the i/o on the psu and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn on
i don't know HOW people frick this shit up
>intelligence comes from going to public school full of apes
anon you're better than thinking a diploma matters, hell even people with bachelor's and master's are working at walmart and mcdonalds
I'd say at the very least Primary education is at least controlled via the fact that they are subject to public scrutiny and the societal need for competent offspring.
But no you really can't trust public schools with that any more, in fact, you might be better off trusting them to intellectually damage your child leaving them knowing less than nothing about a variety of topics.
>competent
lol
Yes anon, being able to complete basic actually necessary tasks is competency. A specialized skill like electronics maintenance isn't.
It's why being an auto mechanic is a trade
If you struggle with assembling a PC you have objectively low intelligence and are likely too lazy to develop an extremely simple skill. This is the changing your oil of electronics.
tfw don't know how to change my oil but know how to build pcs
me
No she's me this is you
that's not me
you're right sorry this is
no it isn't
Sorry, finally found you.
still not me
I built a pc for the first time yesterday and it all just worked on first startup. It was as easy as grabbing a cable and checking the motherboard manual for where it's supposed to go.
I did one last look at the internals before closing the case and realized I forgot to take the plastic film off the i/o shield but I'm too lazy to unscrew the motherboard just for that.
Building a pc is extremely easy, actually taking the time to research the parts and find value is the effort.
I’m pretty dumb and I managed to build my own. Just don’t clutter your pc with unnecessary shit like rgb and crap and it’s literally like at most 5 parts you need to plug in
damn, i must be a genius because i've been building PCs since i was a kid and never had any trouble
Just put the fricking pieces into the slots.
How does anyone find this hard?
f
Can we at least gatekeep pc building
I just pay someone to put it together for me. I’m already spending over a grand on the PC why not pay an extra hundred bucks to get it put together
That extra hundred dollars could go towards more performance.
it's been 7 years of my "i'm going to wait for pc parts to be cheaper" upgrade.
it's not going well
Do you need someone to gift you a GPU at this point?
If you are so stupid you can't build a PC stay a consolegay.
Simple as.
It's one thing to build a PC, but it's another thing to install the OS and optimize your rig's performance. I look at the interface for that shit and it's like looking at Chinese. What even is the proper settings? What the frick is overclocking and should I turn it on or off? Is Windows 11 really that bad, or am I just being memed on? I'm too much of a Boomerllennial for this shit.
dude I'm 33 and there really isn't any optimization you need to do at all. Plug in the USB and install Windows. You don't need to overclock at all. The only settings you should be messing with are your monitors refresh rate and maybe night mode. Also your RAM may need literally one thing switched to have it run at full potential but thats not even overclocking it.
You probably ought to go into your BIOS and make sure things like fans are set up though.
I see optimizing fan curves the same as overclocking honestly.
It's nice to have, but the average end user doesn't NEED to do it to have a working rig.
My motherboard also assumed my fans were DC.
I end up doing a new build like every 5 years and fricking dread it every time. It's a tremendous ballache and miserable couple of hours but then it's done and I don't have to think about it for a while. Never had any issues outside of some bad RAM that got returned and swapped out no question, but I still fricking hate it. My brother used to bring in his parts and pay £30 for the local PC shop to put them together and I'd do the same now if they were still in business.
My last build was in 2019 so I suppose I'll have that to look forward to later this year.
>blocks youre path
My first PC was entirely used parts from ebay and a mix of the cheapest RAM I could find. Nothing blew up but Anons were confused when I posted the specs and surprised it even turned on.
You have to be even more moronic than I am to blow up a computer and I had to attend the literal moron room in school.
Building a pc is the ultimate cringe shit. You're not building anything. Putting a gingerbread house together requires more skill.
>but muh RGB LEDs!!!!
They look fricking stupid.
Owning a desktop pc at all = you're a fricking loser
Owning a gaming pc = you're a major fricking loser
You went too hard with the bait.
RGB shit is a meme, but the ultimate point of PC building in my opinion is getting 100% efficiency out of the parts you paid for.
Proper silent airflow, no throttling, overclocking as far as it'll go safely, etc.
>Proper silent airflow
>Launch Fortnite
>Enable hardware raytracing
WRRRRRRRRRRRR
this is just shitty optimization which far too many games have
>load up Martha is Dead
>3060ti has no issues running it 1440p high
>pause game
>pause menu apparently runs in 10,000fps+
>PC flies out the window and resettles on Mars
>run cyberpunk with all the RT shit on
>gpu runs cool
vs
>play indie game
>no limit for fps
>950+fps
>have to turn AC on despite it being freezing outside
just set a framerate cap to your monitor's maximum refresh rate. Both nvidia and amd's driver software let you do it
I did. Made the game choppy, though.
it is, the parts all come labeled and they can really get inserted one way.
> parts all come labeled
>implying anons can read
I got a way to insert into you anon.
pls respond
PC building is insanely trivial and has been since late 2000s.
>you will never go back to the days of installing drivers for every piece of hardware including your mouse and keyboard
At this point the "Building a pc is easy bro, just do it, you can do it solo" is spread by companies so you'd break some expensive part and buy it again.
How do people frick up building a PC? It's not even Lego it's fricking DUPLO levels of brain dead easy cause the connectors only fit into one socket!
Brother, this generation is an epidemic. My cousin bought a fricking prebuilt only to fricking have to pay it off then bought another prebuilt because a game he played was optimized like shit and he didn't wanna just troubleshoot it. Game still lagged and he's still paying it off now.
>he didn't wanna just troubleshoot it
TROUBLESHOOTING FRICKING WINDOWS IS PISS EASY AS FRICK
holy shit anon, did you at least beat the shit out of him?
I told him to stop wasting my time and his money. Gotta let him learn the rest on his own.
>build my PC
>turn it on
>coil whine
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why are taxes this fricked in Muttland? Theyre crap in Bongland but HMRC are semi decent relative to the shit Ive seen from the IRS.(Admittingly I use an accountant so I dont really know too much.)
Building a PC is not hard. But it's definitely not for everyone. If you don't have proper training, you will fail and panic. And building a PC because you watched YouTube videos about building PCs is a bad idea. You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
Is this the Galko girl or the Okinawa one?
Galko
>You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
I built a Pentium 3 machine at the age of 14 in 2001, I never had to. Just read the manuals and cross your fingers. Oh and triple check everything.
>And building a PC because you watched YouTube videos about building PCs is a bad idea
No it isn't.
>You need someone who's actually trained to do it to check your work.
No you don't. Everything you need to know you can easily learn on the internet if you have at least a triple digit IQ. Calling it Legos is not much of exaggeration.
>No you don't. Everything you need to know you can easily learn on the internet if you have at least a triple digit IQ.
Even following instructions, there's plenty of little ways to frick up.
Accidentally putting the fans in the wrong way, accidentally using too much or too little thermal paste, installing an AIO with the lines pinched or going against gravity, installing PSU the wrong way so the intake chokes, using the wrong ram slots for dual channel and not setting xmp, bending a tiny pin in an LGA socket 0.1mm out of place so a random part stops working etc.
How many shotas does she frick?
The only thing you MIGHT need as a beginner is something like pcpartpicker just so you know your parts are compatible with each other. You're an imbecile if you can't build a modern PC just by watching a video or two.
How can you be such a frick up that your pc catches fire after you finish building it
I just paid peanuts to the local nerd to build my pc whileI watched.
opinions?
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00128462
>5200mhz ram
what does that mean?
He should be getting 5600
And it should be labelled as MT/s, not mhz. They're not the same thing.
You should be getting 6000mhz minimum on DDR5
So I should just ask them to replace the ram with something that has 6000mhz? Easy enough.
Yea or if they charge too much replace it on your own
thanks, very much appreciated.
RAM bandwidth past a specific point in this day and age is a meme unless you're doing something like heavy data processing constantly. If you're gaming, don't bother.
>past a specific point
Which is 6000mhz for DDR5.
>Entry hurdle keeps out morons
I don't see the fricking problem
People who can't even grasp that "lego" is already plural do not have the intelligence to build computers and should not be allowed online.
Should I upgrade my i3 8100f to a i7 8700 and get a 6600? I just wanna play Palworld and Dragon's Dogma 2.
I could just go frick it and get a Ryzen 5 7600, the whole AM5 package with RAM and the 6600.
The gpu is fine but I wouldn't spend money on a 8th gen i7. There's not point in upgrading to an already outdated cpu. There's some decent budget options on am4 and intel's 12/13-th gen cpus, or as you said, you could go am5, but that's definitely more expensive.
Yeah I am thinking of just getting a 5600 with a mobo/RAM/Nvme. By the time I need a stronger CPU, AM6 will be a thing
Also my friend told.me it's better to get a seasoned platform because AM5 has some bugs.
Just update your bios asap, most shit should be fixed by now.
the 5600 is still a great cpu. As for am5, it had a rocky launch but the issues have been mostly ironed out. I think some motherboards still suffer from slow boot times, but that's about it
I just wanna play Palworld and make porn comics on Koikatsu. I don't wanna spend extra for the 3D Am4 CPU if I won't be playing AAA sloppa on 4k. I just got a new 1080p monitor. That's all I need to be happy.
Some games demand a stronger CPU if you play at lower resolutions.
Just build an Intel system. Anything AMD is cancer. In a couple of years Intel GPUs will surpass AMD GPUs.
Remove thyself, covetous israelite
i just built a new comp and the worst part was researching parts. every youtube video looks like this. and all the fake ai pages with jumbled thrown together useless info.
>Researching parts on YouTube.
Dude
Its been a nightmare picking parts but only because I can't decide on even basic shit like my case this time.
One thing is don’t go for a meme mini build. You’ll just end up going bigger later. But either way, get a $170-$200 case because the quality of life with the whole experience is much better. And make sure your mobo has the USBC front panel header of your case has a USBC port on the front. That really pissed me off when I overlooked that. You’ll end up having to do a workaround by running it to a header with slower speeds or just leave it as a dead port, neither choice sits right with autism.
>But either way, get a $170-$200 case because
Go caseless. Frick the case israelite.
Or just not spend a lot on a case, it's really hard to go wrong with a case.
It's not super daunting but there are tricky bits and it's silly how people here are determined to pretend otherwise
you aren't that likely to actually break anything but you should be careful, you're more likely to frick up when upgrading if you don't realize you can't reuse your old PSU cables
It's not easy, but not hard either, you just need patience. And of course watch tutorials and learn how to do shit before even trying.
>build new PC
>don't even know where half the case lights plug into so my powerswitch doesn't light up and only one of the built in RGB fans lights up
>cable management is a nightmare so I stuff everything into the bottom or let it hang
I lack patience and I'm easily frustrated by tech
but at least it works
>build new PC
>disable all of the lights because it's annoying and my PC isn't a circus tent
I'll even disable the light on the power button of the case.
Have you tried reading your mobo manual you fricking moron?
Have you tried the tried and true approach of RTFM?
This story sounds fake as frick, and if it's real the moron probably didn't assemble it properly.
I've built 5 or so PCs at this point but I've never done a CPU/GPU upgrade on an existing system before. I'm too lazy to figure out if my existing power supply is suitable for more powerful parts and just buy everything new when I build new.
yo tell me if this build sucks
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xBrwpB
People are dumb, lazy and easily taken advantage of.
This is why I don't build pc's for profit. I prefer helping or supervising a build but if someone wants something custom done I charge for the parts and at most a hundred dollars for my time depending on build cost. Most of the time I just ask for a nice bottle of whiskey or bourbon for my troubles.
It's also that people get unreasonably stressed over working with expensive parts. I walked a buddy through his first build and his hands were literally shaking trying to slot in the CPU.
I'd imagine some people would pay the premium to not deal with the stress.
A potential $400 oopsy woopsy could be frightening indeed.
i dont understand how anyone could frick up building a pc
you dont even have to set drives to master/slave anymore, or change jumpers on the motherboard, or even deal with IRQs
should I get rid of my smartphone and force my wife to get rid of hers when we have kids? Asking for a friend.
Get rid of the stand mixer because it can make cakes, puddings, breads, sauces, pastas, grind meat, whip cream/butter without physical exertion. There's no way myself or anyone I care about could learn how to use such a device without resorting to getting fat from only making cakes with the mixer.
>It's just like Legos
Nah, PC parts only plug in one way. That's way easier than Legos.
I built one in 30 minutes with a youtube video even a child can do it
>bought am4 in 2024
Is it over for me?
They're still releasing new CPUs.
I ended up going with the 5800x3d.
So the cpu, 64gb of 3600 ram, strix mobo ended up being $580. The am5 setup I was going to go full on with 7950x3d so the whole system would have been almost $400 more in the end. I’ll splurge again later this year I’m sure.
I did the same, honestly I've just heard nothing but problems about AM5 mobos so I'll just hope this gets me to AM6 or whatever
Realistically, you will want to move to AM5 because by then AM6 will probably be fresh and have the same early adoption issues.
The ultimate money saving technique is to buy a 4080 Super right now and run it at 50% power. Then every January you up it 10%. You’ll be so used to the performance that on 6 years it’ll be time to upgrade and will have never felt too slow.
No one is spending 1000$ on one part of their pc moron. There's a reason a majority of people use a 1060 of a 1660. You probably piss your pants at the idea someone would buy an amd gpu too.
Buying the $1000 GPU might actually be cheaper in the long run, provided you aren't one of those people who NEEDS to upgrade every gen.
The people who bought a 1080ti for MSRP at launch are probably still laughing.
>built 5 PCs of my own and helped a handful of friends build theirs
>75% of the time I forget to plug the PSU into the CPU power on the motherboard and scream on the inside when it doesn't post or do anything when we first try to turn it on
Am I the only moron who just plugs in the 24pin and always thinks they're done with the mobo and psu?
It especially sucks when your case is so small or shitty or the air cooler is so large you don’t have room to plug in the cpu without taking things back apart.
Most of the cases I've dealt with, it's hard to plug that even without anything besides just the case in the way
For cases with shit clearance, I'd just plug in the mobo and cpu connectors before I drop the mobo into the case.
It's a lot easier to feed the cables into the PSU than it is the other way around.
I've had times where I'd plug in the power sw connector halfway and freak out that it wasn't turning on.
Happens to the best of us.
Sometimes your brain is on autopilot and you just do stupid shit you should know better about. I once did troubleshooting for about 20 minutes wondering what the frick was wrong with my monitor after moving the computer to a different room, and felt like a complete moron when I realized the problem was that I plugged the displayport cable into the motherboard instead of the GPU.
I have built 8 PCs and never had an issue. You can't even bend CPU pins anymore. It's idiot proof.
zoomers buy prebuild now because their streamers tell them to buy premades from their sponsors
I don't feel like getting the actual numbers
Also if you ever have any question about like
>Dood how many people build there own pc NAOW??
Consult the chart, it won't change.
Order all the parts from Amazon. If you accidentally pop something due to being moronic they will take back anything and not even check it.
>be a complete moron
>built maybe 6 computers over the last 12 years
>every time just followed along a video guide and was done in under an hour with absolutely 0 issues
this shit really aint hard at all
just recently bought a prebuilt that i got an insane black friday deal on though, been too busy with work to even bother setting it up/swapping shit off my old pc so its still just sitting in the box lul
**Inserts Black personinventsnewpc.jpg**
The only thing that's genuinely not idiot-proof are plugging in modular power supply cables. Different PSU manufacturers can have the same keyed form factors for different pinouts, which can cause shorts or over/undervolting, and, by extension, magic smoke and dead components. I lost a CD drive and a fan controller to this oversight. I now always keep PSU boxes and any cables that come with them stay in those boxes, rather than being congregated in a singular location.
Building isn't hard, troubleshooting can be
>reusing power cables from different PSU manufacturers
holy shit that physiognomy
I know of people who should know what they're doing fricking up swapping a nvme ssd because they lost grip of the screw making it jump and scratch the motherboard damaging the circuits
maybe it's just stressful working with components that are thousands of dollars
I wish there was a sandwich style SFF case but the power supply is at the bottom and the front is meshed and removable.
with the price of sff cases might as well just design your own one in solidworks and send the file to the nearest shop to have the parts laser cut
Indeed, it is not adult lego. Adulthood has nothing to do with it.
it is crazy man. I wanted to build a PC so I simply looked up resources and followed a guide.
There was enough resources to make it *piss* fricking easy, but just removed enough from being it just werks-tier streamlined that a normie wouldnt be completely handheld through every step which is why they think its some crazy smart person luxury hobby
Built my first PC last year, everything was pretty simple except trying to figure out where all the wires went. my power supply came with a ton of shit i didnt need, and most of it wasnt labeled
>Flames shot out of the computer
What a fantastic mental image. Can some Anon generate an image of two sois freaking out because there computer is shooting flames out of the side.
Never got the elitism behind building a pc.
You're not special for figuring out how to push a chip into a slot. It's less difficult than assembling your desk or bedframe.
I am a noob. If I use a 1-2tb for Windows and games that need it, can I install a HDD for my home made porn movies? Or do I need a SATA SSD to not frick up transfer speeds?