>buy game
>it gets shut down
>becomes unplayable
Why is this allowed?
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>buy game. >it gets shut down. >becomes unplayable
>buy game
>it gets shut down
>becomes unplayable
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Business idea: Make an alternative to Steam with delisted games
You realise that games are delisted by the IP holder and are legally not allowed to be sold anywhere else?
gog-games is doing just fine.
Cool, had no idea gog-games sells legal licenses
they sell kino
Imagine sucking corporate dick.
Sorry, but you'll never be a billionaire.
imagine having the reading comprehension of a 6 years old
Imagine coping this hard.
> One day, I too will be a multi-gorillionaire with more rights than anyone else, right Gabe? G-Gabe?
You're not. Just so you know. You will pay more depending on some index he keeps that measures your nation's welth. Meanwhile he pays less tax than you.
Don't forget to thank him after he unloads across your face you dumb prostitute.
homie since when is stating a fact an endorsment lmao
When did Gabe even come into this? This ain't his game.
>goes on a random tangent
Get help.
Based moron
Your mind is in the right place, not your brain.
The game is an always online game you can play solo like GTA online.
What should be pushed is popularising offline mode and/or community servers wich hurt the israelites pockets so it will never be pushed
Btw the game has an offline mode who is turned off in the code
It's not a question of work, it's a question of israeli vultures wanting to take things from you
I wonder if some of the car license holders insisted that game simply must not be available anymore after the license lapses unless publisher keeps paying them rent for player's digital property.
That's probably it.
Why don't they use fake names like so many games do with both cars and guns?
Because the customers don't like that.
How many people out there wouldn't buy a game if it didn't have real car names?
Call of Duty uses lots of fake gun names and it's a perpetual best-seller.
Why do manufacturers demand money for already free advertising?
why would you not want to get money for someone else to do the advertising for you its way better then a deal free advertising.
They could just "remove" the cars, they've already done that with the Subaru BRZ
>community servers
This was always the answer. Every game with online should be required to support community servers to ensure homosexual bullshit like 'you've been banned for saying <word>' or 'we decided we don't want to pay the $4/mo for the servers anymore' doesn't happen.
You're an idiot
https://www.zoom-platform.com/
It needs a name
I nominate...
Black personhomosexualrapist
>what is myabandonware
>advocating for piracy
no shame
Because boomer politicians don't understand or just give a shit about digital rights
This. They don't care. And they'll never impose term or age limits, or actually ban themselves from the stock market. There needs to be a separate body that makes rules for congress.
>I have a right to somebody else's server
You people are idiots.
Like most "live service" games, The Crew didn't need a server to begin with. Not truly. There is nothing in the game that couldn't be done client-side, and the online component only exists as a leash the publisher puts on customers.
>the online component only exists as a leash the publisher puts on customers.
DELETE THIS
You're right. How could any game POSSIBLY run without a company hosting servers for users?
You're too young to be here.
>right to somebody else's server
You have no right to sabotage a product I bought. Hand over the server-side portion so we can set up community servers or die.
i have a right to withhold funds and demand i get a copy of the server so i can run it indefinitely, i'm not the company's friend, i'm the consumer's friend
>I will take away the motor from your car, thanks for buying it few years ago
They could give you the code to run the servers yourself Its not hard and only a moron would actually think that's simply not possible
Many of us live in first world countries so yes we do regardless of how you feel or whatever hocus pocus mumbo jumbo you try to retaliate with. The laws will change when the boomers are dead, the millennials are in rocking chairs, and the zoomers and alphies are running the world.
No they want. Video game preservation is dead last in the agenda. You will always buy the newest slop and you WILL like it.
leave me alone moldman
HE TRIED HE WARN US
Why did you buy a kusoge dependent on servers designed to be shut down?
I didn't
I got it from free giveaway years ago
That Battlefield for me
it's an invetiability
>be born
>die
>become unlivable
Why is this allowed?
>we are like a digital product
Why are you allowed to breath my same air?
copium
Why are you even b***hing about old shit that no one is playing?
>Why do you care that a piece of media isnt preserved simply because a company decided they didnt want to do it
have a nice day
its a fricking ubislofp piece of shit no one cares about
It's not about the game itself, it's about the practice. It'll happen to a game you care about one day.
i dont play always online shit
I feel like we're on the same side but you just want to have an internet argument for the sake of it.
This idea of preserving all games doesn't make much sense when you think that you need to draw a line somewhere.
Should amateur RPG Maker games be preserved? You have to agree that the vast majority are things made for fun by teenagers, so it's not like it's something of great value, but there are complete games that aren't much worse than the average professional game.
What about the games distributed on itch.io? There are good games there, there are games made by professionals, but there are also things that are mere experiments, there are jokes, meme games, things that can't even be considered games but are more like audio-visual art...
Yeah, it's complicated.
I refuse to consider that only corporate games made by big companies should have some kind of benefit from being preserved, but I know that it's an unsolvable problem if you start looking at games as a whole and not just as consumer products made by corporations.
What kind of fricking argument are you making? The destruction of games shouldn't be built into the fricking thing. A game on itch can be fully preserved by anyone who gives enough of a shit to do that. This is different. Frick off. Don't entertain this shit you useless contrarian.
My argument is quite simple: you need to draw a line between games that "deserve" to be preserved and those that "don't". And it's impossible to draw this line fairly.
>The destruction of games shouldn't be built into the fricking thing
There are games whose main feature requires something external to the game itself. For example, I can make a game that depends on website X being up and running, and if the website goes down, the game will simply stop working along with it. What you're basically telling me is that I can't make certain types of games because they don't fit into your specific vision of how games should work.
I know what Ross's argument is, and I agree with 99% of what he says, but we also have to agree that Ross's culture in relation to video games is quite limited, he can't even play most of the games he himself chooses to show us, so you have to take into account that his arguments can't be generalized to games as a whole, only to a small portion of them, because of that thing I said about drawing a line.
Your argument is moronic.
Everything SHOULD be preserved, in an ideal world. Obviously, this isn't always the case. There are works out there that have been deleted and lost to time, because only one person gave a shit about it and then they stopped caring.
This is a completely different scenario. I'm sure there is at least a few autistic zoomers out there who fondly remember "The Crew" and would happily run their own local or private server if possible. But they don't have this option, because the homosexuals who run the game have deemed it unprofitable to continue running the servers, and too much hassle to spend 5 minutes patching it so you can run it locally.
I used to play this game, almost 600 hours in game.
hope they make offline patch
>hope they make offline patch
that would require actual effort, if they can't make money from it then there's no reason to work on it
>that would require actual effort
They made the entire fricking game. What's a tiny bit more work to make sure it doesn't disappear into a void for no reason?
how will they make money from that?
People would still occasionally buy it, probably on sale? Also who cares anyway, because how would doing that prevent them from making money?
we're talking about a company that makes billions a year from people who don't care how anti-consumer they are. or do know but don't have any integrity to not play their games. I don't support it, but I assume the accountants they hire to run the numbers and figure out its not profitable are in fact correct. they're not 'evil', they are just purely motivated by profit.
because disposable products make sure you always gonna buy a new one
its planned obsolescence
A single game sale in the future will make more money than the cost of having an internet change a number from 0 to 1.
You deserve it for giving ubisoft money.
>Ubisoft game
>https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/help/article/multiplayer-and-online-services-availability-in-ubisoft-games/000064576
Caveat emptor. You should know better by now.
Ross was right
>Buying online games.
There's your problem. The only way these ever survive is if the community is dedicated enough to have a private server, otherwise, don't bother. This will also happen to WOW and FFXIV eventually.
shit example, WoW has been running on private servers since forever
>WoW has been running on private servers since forever
Exactly, so If retail dies, you could still play it. That's not the case with most games. As I said, private servers are the only way these types of game survive.
Last i checked ffxiv private servers were still in development
Honestly i just want to relive stormblood
There's no reason to make private servers out of a game that has zero reason to be played besides a mid ass MSQ
>buy game that's always online
>act surprised when you get fricked
Watch as Diablo suffers the same fate one day
No one played this game though
T. Bought it on ps4 and steam because its the only racing game in the last 10 years that at least tried to revolutionize
>buy game
You are buying an ubisoft product. You get what you deserve.
thanks for the money Black person!
>ubisoft
A long time ago I decided to never purchase games from them, though I can't even remember the specific reason that brought that on. I'm glad this continues to be a wise decision though.
You had 10 years to play it Black person.
>so what if I raped a child she had 12 years of being a virgin!
that's how you sound
>Instantly outs himself
I hope you get raped in prison.
>no u
tell it to the judge
What if every game ever made disappeared after 10 years. Do you want that?
>hey man, you had your chance
I hope you get lynched.
Do you have any idea how many games I played in the last year which are >10 years old and which I never played before?
literally and i do mean LITERALLY
>forget about old thing and get excited for new thing!
kermit sudoku
>Why is this allowed?
Because you only have yourself to blame for wasting your own money.
You will own nothing and you will be happy
That's why you never buy online only games unless you know what you're getting into. I can still play Gran Turismo 1-6 just fine, same can't be said about sport & 7 due to their live service bullshit. Same goes for let's say the OG Battlefront 1&2, you can have still have fun with bots despite it being a multiplayer only/focused game. There are many other older Multiplayer games that you can play just fine offline without servers/internet connection. Ironically the Battlefront 1 reboot that dice made is perfectly playable offline due to the "singleplayer matters" campaign that redditors had back then when EA was being even more moronic than they usually are.
Holy shit it's a fricking guitar.
All this time I thought you gays were posting gay porn.
gay porn? on 4chinchin? nah.
Games are no longer a physical product, but a service provided via the internet.
All those licensees and legal agreements you skip through the first time you DL the game sign any rights you think you have away.
>Games are no longer a physical product
You can get a physical copy of The Crew.
It will still be unplayable.
Physical ownership doesn't mean anything, it never really did.
It did before always-online DRM
Man, time traveling back to 1999 would be swell and all but I don't know how.
This is why i pirate games, i bought hitman 3 without knowing that it has always online bs and one day ioi will pull the plug
why not just make it offline
>why compete with your newer, more profitable products
>entirely online driving game
>lasted 9 years
surprising
This is what you get for buying a game that is only online
It WILL shut down
It's never a question of if but when
Blame yourself
Games as a service is a fraud.
are YOU gonna pay to keep the servers running
are YOU gonna buy the remnants of the IP?
are YOU gonna pay licensing to any royalty holders who's content is in the game?
if you answered no to any of these questions, then that is why games delist.
Think anon, think!
What will you have in 10 years when all those servers shut down?
Memories.
You Gabe... I'd still have you.
According to whom? That same rich israelite?
lol
Yeah good luck with that.
He's looking like he's gonna croak any day now.
funny how this rarly happens to good games though, and when it does we get some mod for private servers anyway. frick the crew, doesn’t even have realistic gear shifting with a wheel controller and pedals. whats the point of a huge open world racing game, WITH an option to pick either arcadey or “realistic” driving features THAT DONT FRICKING WORK? can someone explain to me why i can change gears without clutch, and do shit like take off totally fine in 4th gear in a stock volkswagen?? and im not even a motor head
If a game isn't playable without an internet connexion, I'm not buying it
>but what about multiplayer games
Let me use community server or I am not buying it
>Why is this allowed?
Because gamers are subhuman.
>buy game
>10 years later money is stolen
is there any way this game can be saved or is it dead forever
>buy always online game
>servers shut down
>"wtf I can't play this always online game anymore?!!!"
woooooooooooooooow
except there is no reason to not make this game singleplayer too.
of course there is no reason to keep the game always online but people choose to buy game that is going to expire someday
it's their own fault for falling for this scam
Fair point, but some people bought the game without even knowing about it being always online. I personally learned this the hard way by trying to play it while my internet was out.
Honestly I wouldnt mind some kind of law which mandated that when a game reaches its EOL the devs/publishers would have to remove the always online DRM.
STOP. KILLING. GAMES
offline chads win again
because 'gamers' are cucks without standards. just like ironic weebs and furgays.
>French Company
worst kind of israelites after Mossad
>Ubisoft
Why is this allowed?
People dont care or even know. They have been doing this for a while now for many of their games without anyone noticing or complaining.
>MMO
And nothing of value was lost
>buying an mmo
>buying an ubisoft mmo
Which movie?
City Hunter (with Jackie Chan)
Thanks Anon
Because Ubisoft is a awful company and now they are dying because people stopped buying their games.
EULA
Basically, when you're buying something digital online, you're not purchasing a product, you're purchasing an ability to use product untill company that made it decides to do 180 on your aas
>he thinks contracts stand a chance against the EU's consumer rights laws
point at the corporate lackey and laugh.
>multiplayer game keeps servers up for a decade
>they stop selling it when they shut down the servers
>this is seen as a bad thing
Xbox Series S and PS5 all digital gays deserve it. This is what you wanted buying digital.
>This is what you wanted buying digital.
moron, "physical" games ship incomplete and require mandatory downloads.
The only way to own your games is to dump them and not rely on ~~*services*~~
Wait until you hear about arcades
What happens when you buy an arcade?
I just came
to tell y'all about another delisted car game without server support from the developers https://store.steampowered.com/app/351990/Riff_Racer__Race_Your_Music/
Seems like people already modded the online components out. Of it's the community that has to fix that bullshit.
>game was never truly for sale
>pirate it
>always playable
This is allowed, is moral, and should be encouraged. The normies are waking up.
anon the game came out 10 years ago and it was live service bullshit back then too. it was one of the first. you had plenty of time to get sick of its bullshit and uninstall it yourself. why be mad that it's no longer available to try to scam you out of money?
Am I going have to make this a copy-pasta?
1)Never play a game that is anti-modding. It's okay if they don't actively support, like releasing an SDK. Just as long as they don't try to forbid it and stop it (like Rockstar and Capcom).
2) Never play a game where the multiplayer is online only and you can only connect to official servers and match making with no options for player hosted servers or peer2peer.
3) Never play a game that has 'mtx.' Short for microtransactions. The official meaning relates to small payments of anything that costs less than $1. The definition here is being able to buy digital content that already exists in the game itself but you have to buy the content (often by buying some in-game currency with real money first) to then attain the content that is already within the game. This is always bad, even if it's "cosmetics only" because that gives an incentive for them to make the 'free options' bland and uninteresting (even if it was a game you had to buy before playing) to incentivize you to purchase the mtx content.
The bottom line is that you should never touch a game that has 'infinite spend.'
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Category:Infinite_spend
> Infinite cap games have microtransactions that can be purchased over and over again without any limit.
Ubisoft is all you
I don't care but you know a handful of guys probably have been playing that shit daily since it came out.
Probably better to free them