>buy games off steam
>Play them for like 4 hours
>Ask for refund
>Dont get a refund
>Play another for like 10 minutes
>Don't like it
>Can't get a refund
>Shit keeps happened to other games and I can't get a refund for them
>Even ask for refunds for games I haven't played but realised were shit
>Same thing happens
I refuse to buy games off there anymore.
Piracy ahoy
Why are you buying games you don't like?
You can pretty much get an idea of what you're getting, you have no excuses in the age of information
How would I know what I like without playing it?
Not everything has a demo and I can't be assed to demo everything I play, I expect shit to be good
>I expect shit to be good
Then you're an extremely gullible moron.
I cam tell if i'll like a game by looking at 30 seconds of gameplay, maybe you're just an idiot.
Or maybe the instant gratification and no patience has burned your dopamine receptors and now you can't find joy in anything you play.
I did the same thing, I saw a game for a minute or so and thought it'd be good but it wasn't.
homie, it means you stupid
Well it's cool that you never regretted buying anything in your life. Most people can't do that.
He's right you know. As a full grown adult browsing Ganker you should know what games ya r going to like, I haven't used steam refunds once since they were implemented. give me back my flash sales homosexuals.
Most people in developed countries use refunds. Whether on shoes they didn't like or for some other reason.
Most of these stay for longer than a week or 2.
I played it with my friend, found out its shit, we both laughed and played something else and couldnt get a refund.
yeah the 2 hour 2 week limit is shit which is why I'd rather have flash sales back
2 hours is absolutely nothing, you could spend an hour tweaking settings if you're autistic like me. should be 5 hours minimum for AAA games, 2 hours for Indie shit is ok I guess.
you might have bigger problems than the 2 hour refunds if it takes you this long to config the game.
as I mentioned I'm autistic, I like a finely tuned experience. if I get one stutter games going in the trash (every unreal engine game)
Not him, but you can easily rack up hours by opening a game and putting it in standby, forgetting about it running cause something else needed attention and frick ton of other things.
have some fricking accountability.
>i'm about to play a new game i just bought
>this has a 2 hour timer on it
>something WACKY comes up
>turn the fricking game off
wow
That's on you for being a moron.
>Play game
>Get phone call
>It's important work call and I'll need to work on documents for 2 hours
>Tell them I'm not a moron and my games are more important
>Play game for almost 2 hours
>get refund
>get fired
A win for paypigs
>get an important call
>alt+f4
woooooooooooooooow
>Replaying shit you did already if it didn't save
>Not expecting a good product from the get go, always ready be ready to refund
>Defending 2 hours of all fricking things
How's that steam wiener taste?
2 hours is fricking nothing, you can easily rack up 2 hours idle.
It shouldn't be in back of anybody's mind when trying a product how many hours you used it for unless you experienced a good chunk of it.
If you're so hung up on the money then don't fricking idle on a new game you just bought
>Just don't care about wasting money.
I said if you care so much about not wasting money, don't idle the game. it's not hard
What the frick is this excuse?
Nobody wants to waste money or give away things they have for nothing. Rich fricks find ways to hide it and not spend it, religious people give away money for a better afterlife, philanthropists have money go to poor people to feel good.
2 hours is nothing at all. You could idle away an hour at cutscenes, and a character customisation before playing and realising it's bad, or maybe hope it gets better but it doesn't
do some research on the game before buying it.
it's free
Shills exist, research can be misleading, many things can go wrong.
There is no excuse to not have a better contingency plan not giving out refunds.
>Shills exist, research can be misleading
>Pls Gabe give me my money back because i have the same cognitive capacity of a 70 years old flat earther reading bullshit on facebook
a fool and his money are soon parted
CONSOOM
Looks for negative opinions, not positive ones. Those who hate a game, give you greater insight if you'll hate it. When the only thing I can find about a game is praise, I don't touch it till I find someone spouting off what is wrong with it. There is always something. Always.
Just consoooooom steams overpriced games goy
Either do research, or expect it to be shit on boot up. It's one or the other moron. If you can't tell the gameplay loop is gunna suck ass in less than an hour, you are blind as frick or haven't played enough good games to even grasp what appeals to you.
There are tons of games that are only good at the start then get shit.
There are stuff that get shit repeating the same thing, other things don't get annoying.
Tons of people experience both, if you haven't maybe you should play more games, not me.
maybe you should play more games if you can't predict how a game is going to turn out.
There are no psychics on earth not even you.
Many long awaited games turn out shit, for many reasons and at the same time some turn out great.
Some games have tons of marketing to look good for the initial hour.
Some games have good gameplay or visuals to mask other terrible shit.
Some games become horrendous halfway in that nobody on earth could've predicted.
It is impossible to tell whether every game is going to be good or bad later.
ok? don't buy games day 1.
>It is impossible to tell whether every game is going to be good or bad later
It's not impossible, dumbass.
This isn't the the 80s, you can do research or read/watch reviews about games before buying them.
Yes it is 100% impossible without spoiling yourself.
>inscyption: oh the game is just a rougelite card game, nope it only is for the first few hours before changing genres and becoming a shitty ARG
>dokidoki: oh another boring dating sim, whelp it broke the 4th wall an hour in
>Eternal sonata: another turn based rpg.. oh no it's slowly transtioning to real time to reflect the person waking up.
>yakuza 0: maybe this game is as fluid and as good as judgement, nope it's on rails
>cuphead: oh it's platformer from the tutorial and ealy levels, nope it's a boss russ
>Xenoblade chronicles2: Oh enemies are easy to kill, i guess they want me to go through them like butter, oh no now they're damage sponges now.
There a frick ton of games you may or may not like from changes, changes that may spoil you if you research them and ruin your experience.
People on this board also tell you to go in blind for some games, like black souls, danganronpa, Bloodborne.
There are a frick ton of games, that become shit or amazing after 2 hours, most people cannot tell, some are impossible to tell. Some may look like everything you love or hate but may be the complete opposite.
Defending 2 hours of all fricking things is moronic.
Do you consider yourself without flaw that you cannot get anything wrong? That nothing can go wrong and it is impossible for you not to like a game you bought after 2 hours?
I respect you and myself as consumers, we should have the right to decide to refund a game after we realise it's not something we like. And sure you can rack up hours because you idled, was afk, fixed settings, had issues downloading or connecting a server, had to answer a call, or literally anything, your house could be on fire, you could faint, are you gonna turn off the game while unconcious just to go under 2 hours?
It's ridiculous.
Eternal Sonata was shit and not worth mentioning.
>I don't like the examples you used, why didn't you read my brain and use ones I like?
autism.
>Inscyption: Is still a card game through out. The gameplay loop is centered on how other genres interact with card game mechanics.
>Dokidoki: It's a visual novel, the novelty and gameplay is the story. It is a visual novel styled parody, thus fans of this genre will be pulled in and enjoy the twist on the typical storytelling.
>Cuphead: Emulating old school gameplay loops, stage level, stage level. Nearing the end? Boss rush just like they did it.
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2: RPGs are long winded cutscenes, with grinding sprinkled in. If you don't know this loop is coming, you haven't played enough of them. If it doesn't make you grind it is pokemon tier of way to fricking easy.
>Eternal Sonata: It goes from TBS to ABS. Pretty neat since both are the OGs of typical JRPG gameplay loops.
>Yakuza 0: I am not familer with this series, I will leave this alone.
The argument is that you don't know how it'll end up and if you'll Iike it or not.
You like those but other people might not, it's not fair to people that don't.
2 hours int enough time to gauge whether you'll like it or not hours later.
I liked Xenoblade the first few hours cause of the story and characters and hated it half way in.
I can't get those hours back.
I'm glad I pirated that game as I would kick myself if I paid for it. The enemies just get way too much health that my experience was ruined.
Some people even ripped up copies of the last of us 2 when Joel died.
If that happened to a steam game after the 2 hour mark it would make them so more pissed cause they couldn't get a refund.
2 hours is not enough when you don't want to spoil yourself.
It's not a fair compromise.
Motherfricker
>What appeals to you
Gameplay loops. They aren't hard to notice and they can start off good, but if you know yourself you can gauge if it'll get old quick. Not knowing what gameplay loop (You) enjoy makes it incredibly hard to discern right from the get go if it'll be fun for (You).
If you can't feel the loop out the gate because of intial cutscenes, then that 1 hour cutscene just told you might be in for fricking storytime every 10-30 minutes of gameplay, which is apart of the fricking loop.
Games can change, it is impossible to predict, you may like the story or gameplay or whatever for the first few hours but then gets old, it may change a ton of things can happen.
A game could be cutscene heavy at the start only to have nothing later on, another game you expect to get better gameplay based on what you saw and heard but doesn't.
It is impossible to predict everything a game will do with complete accuracy, just what it can do.
There are games that I never get bored of and many others I got bored when I thought I never would
I am not the only one in this world like this.
If the core gameplay loop fricking changes mid way through. It's a shit game. Since all it is, is a fricking mind trick to get you to enjoy something before switching the pace and more often than not, becoming terrible. Games that typically do this, use dopamine hits with free shit rapidly at the start and then trickle you off, making the new gameplay loop painful as possible to probably scam you out of money, after suckering you in, for potentaily the intial buy-in. This is why doing research also helps.
in all of your posts you failed to explain why steam should raise the refund period
Literally the first sentence of the post you replied to.
>close game
truly a incomprehensible concept
Thanks for proving to everyone that you are, indeed, moronic
>what do you mean you can't close your game and work right now???
mr. Shekelsteinberg needs his documents right now, we are losing money every second!!
nas caol
>NOOOO BUT I WANNA PLAY GAMES DURING WORK HOURS
>Boot up game
>30 minutes cutscenes
>Get into the 1 hour tutorial
>See some issues
>Download mod/fix
>Ok seems to be fine now
>Play game
>FoV seems a bit shit, lemme go fix it in the ini files since devs are morons *cough* ghostwire
>Boot game back up
>Didn't work
>100 minutes have now passed
>Still on tutorial
shiieeeeet
pirate to demo is the way to go
>sue for wrongful dismissal
>while he's also getting ass fricked by the union fines
Not happening.
>answering work calls when not at work
moron
that's like forgetting to close the water faucet and then complaining about the bill
The frick are you on about?
Most people have games they regret buying, there's even threads where people complain about it. There are even threads where people shit on games that become bad half way in.
Almost nobody buys games and doesn't regret any purchase.
If anything you're the odd one out.
Or maybe he's easily amused
I have a good nose. I can smell shit games from a mile away.
Yet you refuse to take a shower.
>How would I know what I like without playing it?
?? Are you underage?
I know perfectly what I like and what I don't. I know I don't need to try ARMA 3 because I won't like it despite liking shooters. I'm not 12 years old and still confused about what I like and don't.
>i expect good shit to automatically come
based chad mindset
why would you buy games off steam if they're also on gog?
Play them for 2 hours instead of 4 you moron.
They realized you were a israelite
>Play another for like 10 minutes
>Don't like it
refunds are automated sub 2 hours
how would you even know if you like a game or not in the first 10 minutes
just admit that you weren't buying games at all and you are just talking about your pirate curse burning your dopamine receptors out
Is 11 minutes more than 2 hours?
Everytime I try to refund because it's not fun, they say it has no major defect.
By all means make up a reason for this.
This isn't the only game this happens for either.
*14 minutes
Frick
read
>purchased november 27, 2021
it took you a year to realize you don't like it?
I assumed you weren't a moron that waited more than two weeks to play a game he bought so I didn't mention it
I'd say "works on my machine" but I'm not a moron and the last game I refunded was in 2020
He's probably one of those idiots that buys games in bulk just because they are on sale and then never plays them.
It's not November 2022 now it's july, it was less than a year that I tried to to refund it and even then I acultually tried to refund another time a month after I bought it but still I guess you gotta defend no refunds and steam's 2 week policy.
>no refunds and steam's 2 week policy.
which is it moron
no store is going to accept your refund past the fricking refund period
that's what the refund period is for
what's the issue then? if you're aware of the 2 week refund policy what are you complaining about? not one year, not one month, it's 2 weeks, 14 days.
The issue is that the duration isn't long enough or doesn't account for other things.
I could play an hour the day it releases and get a refund, or gift it to somebody and they play for a minute before not liking it and can't get a refund cause it's longer than a week.
Game can easily become shit after the initial introduction, or a whole slew of other things can happen.
*Longer than 2 weeks
don't gifted games start counting from the moment the gift is accepted?
>ummmmm akchually it was only 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds past my refund period and not a year so they should give me the refund 🙂
do you even read what you are writing before posting?
Black person, you're either moronic or illiterate
You bought a golf game knowing it's a golf game, and then you realized you don't like golf games
You played a multiplayer game called golf WITH FRIENDS alone for 10 minutes before realizing you're a sad lonely frick
holy shit OP you need a new brain
>Refunded games constantly without an issue as long as playtime is 2 hours or less
>Game is refunded within two weeks of purchase as per the terms and conditions
>Have always stated my reason for a refund is “It’s not fun”
>Wonder why OP can’t do the same
>Game was purchased back in November
Ahhh yes, OP is a moron as usual.
BAESD
sametroon
>Pirate the game.
>Play it for 4 hours.
>If you like it, buy it on Steam./GoG/whatever...
Problem solved.
Where does everyone pirates theirs games?
rarbg
gog-games
igg
Automatic refunds are for games you bought less than 2 weeks ago and played for less than 2 hours.
pirategays are the vegans of Ganker
Your shitty meme will never catch on, everybody board pirates.
I pirate games, by the way.
>food analogy
I own nothing and I am NOT happy
because there's a 2 weeks limit on refunds moron
>Browse steam store
>See interesting game
>Revv up bittorrent
>Add exe to steam as non steam game
>Rename to full game name
>Add custom artwork
>Jump on couch and boot up big picture mode
>Money saved from not buying games can get me a top tier GPU every gen
Thanks for the games ya filthy animals
>Game doesn't work without day 1 patch
close but no cigar
Is there a limit to the amount of refund I can get ? I refunded a lot of shit games lately.
If the systeam reads you as fraudolent you stop getting automated refunds, but it takes a bit to get to that point
>I can tell by curated gameplay designed to make you hyped even for a chinchilla taking a shit if the game is gonna be good
Many such schizos
If you couldn't tell shit like no man's sky, fallout 76 or anthem were gonna be shit months before release and got hyped up by and with drooling morons I don't know what to say. It actually baffles me how people are hyped for starfield and future bioware games etc.. it's pretty easy just look at the devs track record.
Same goes for Blizzard, DICE, cdprojekt I guess we can chuck machinegames and arkane in too.
least moronic Gankerermin
This is why I always try out any new games that are gifted to me, or games I buy. I want to know right away if they're bad or not. It's why I refunded Bayonetta and that Frog game by Pixel. Both gave me technical problems that I couldn't fix, so I had to let them go.
>in a 3rd shitworld country
>couldn't pay even if i wanted to
Same. Haven't bought a game/song/movie my whole life. My conscience is clear and I have no regrets.
I bought Black Souls (and let me tell you, buying shit in dlsite is a fricking pain in the ass) because I want to see BS3 some day.
I didnt ask okya
>>buy games off steam
>>Play them for like 4 hours
>>Ask for refund
>>Dont get a refund
>>Play another for like 10 minutes
>>Don't like it
>>Can't get a refund
>>Shit keeps happened to other games and I can't get a refund for them
>>Even ask for refunds for games I haven't played but realised were shit
>>Same thing happens
>
>I refuse to buy games off there anymore.
>Piracy ahoy
I don't get how people can defend 2 hours.
Games like tales of arise and neo tweet got pretty half way in shit despite all the marketing and it looking like a good game.
There's more games than people on this thread that end up being let downs.
I didn't ask you at all
And how many hours in is that? 10, 20, 30 hours?
Pirates are annoying vegan tier homosexuals. Pretty much no excuse to pirate after Steam.
>Pretty much no excuse
except the free part
Weak bait
I think the most annoying pirates are the ones who claim they just pirate to "try out" a game, and if they really like it they'll buy it*
*4 years later when it's on sale for 95% off after playing and enjoying it at launch
Steam wouldn't refund me 49 cents for a shitty indie game that didn't work because I waited more than 2 weeks to play it, so now I steal all my games.
When the frick is the EU going to force digital platforms to allow us to sell our games? I have 100s of games on steam I never play.
they won't because no one would ever buy new digital ever again. instead of selling some 20 year old game on steam for $20-30 you'd have thousand of people selling it for a handful of dollars, you know who won't be happy about consumers saving money.
Steam will unironically pull out of the EU entirely before they do that
the better question if why do you have games you never play?
based, whenever i finish a new game i add it to the loop of games i constantly have to play
Every single day i play 5 minutes each over 75 games i already finished
It's becoming harder and harder to play new games but gotta keep up, i can't own games i don't play
Because I dont replay games. I buy them and beat them once and never touch them again. I wish steam and sony had a rent option or something.
That's what xbox game pass is homie
I'm not interested in a massive catalogue of old games like that as I only play new shit the week/month of release and then move on. I only play 4 or 5 games a year really. The only game I played this year was Elden Ring and as far as I know thats not on gamepass. The only other games this year I care about are god of war 2 and harry potter and neither of those will be gamepass games.
I have never once regretted my purchase or used Steam refunds because I know what I'm purchasing. I read off the reviews and do research about games before buying them. And if I'm not sure if I'm gonna like the game or know if it's gonna run on my computer, then I download the demo (or pirate the game) to see if it's gonna run my system and if I'm enjoying it.
Sorry OP, not everyone here is a moron just like you.
Does anyone in this thread actually own anything? and if you do in fact own something, are you happy? What if you don't?
I refunded 3 steam games in the past 6 months and it all worked for me.
As long as it's less than 2 hours and 2 weeks they don't care about the reason. I refunded Hunt showdown last sale and the reason I gave was "I don't like it, it's too slow". Still got a refund.
OP has no personality and so cannot know himself.
It is why he cant imagine himself playing a game he saw gameplay of and cant make an estimation of the quality from his perspective.
There is no OP perspective as he is a soulless husk functioning by mere instincts.
He deserves only pity.
ITT: Poorgay cope
I just spent a hundred bucks for 21 games that look interesting. Some of them I'll like, some of them I won't like, but I won't refund any of them regardless because one hundred bucks is literally nothing.
In my country you could feed an entiere family (four spouses, 28 kids) for six months with a hundred bucks.
Are people trolling or do they really think 2 hours is enough time to decide to return a game?
Some games are like 4 hours long, this would only help them but for most others it's not.
piratebros
i thought no one cared what you downloaded
Filesharingnetzwerke bros...how could this happen...to us....
works in my country
WHAT DOES THE REDDIT MAN HAVE TO DO WITH THAT?