Good with it's death perhaps something good might come out. Legit all limitations on the old total war titles could have been removed by now by the twcenter autists but never did it because it's illegal an shieeet
Do we really need another thread? Who cares. They'll either make a good game and people will play it or they won't and they'll die. There's nothing to talk about.
>You and the increasingly irrelevant sectors of gaming in a crash,
No, everything is in a crash. Most companies have suffered massive loses and/or layoffs. The entire live service bubble has collapsed in on itself.
>Yeah, well, GTA and Call of Duty is still really profitable.
Of course they are really profitable. The fact that clearly isn't enough shows just how fricked things are.
The things game devs don't understand, is that most of these markets are individually separated. If you go from making PC games to making smartphone games, you INSTANTLY just erased your PC market and have switched fully to the mobile arena. Nobody on PC wants to play mobile shit....It's WHY they fricking bought a thousand dollar fricking desktop to begin with.
Consoles somewhat share a market with PC, but barely. Console players also hate fricking mobile-shit as well though, it's why they bought the fricking console to begin with.
Mobile games, stay mobile games. You don't gain any market share by switching it. You simply...."switch" to a separate market, where you then are competing with the trillions of pajeet street-shitter apps that are barfed out on the play stores.
The sooner devs realize this, the better.
7 months ago
Anonymous
To fricking bad that the primal objective of being into any market is gain as much money as possible, right anon?
7 months ago
Anonymous
The market for mobile is massive, but good fricking luck getting a fraction of the market share. Even if you do, people usually don't care for developers but for individual games on mobile, so good luck keeping that share.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>people usually don't care for developers but for individual games
That's the way it should be.
GTA sells on brand name alone, normies buy it simply because every other normie buys it. It's like the scores of people who watched The Mandalorian or Game of Thrones despite having no actual interest in the subject matter just because they didn't want to be left out of the conversations when their friends/co-workers were talking about the latest episode.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Game of Thrones was good for a couple of seasons as a book reader but then it went crap. Only normie slop eaters stayed after season 4.
This impacts most of the relevant parts.
The people who have money and ultimately pay for a project that requires 200-600 people's man hours for three to five years are collapsing. This doesn't suddenly not impact the employees who are doing their jobs well enough, because they tend to work for these people.
Only true rogue indies, which there are very few, MOST get money from these people, or occasional small AA developers who have kept their heads down through the insanity will not be completely fricked by this, and even then, they USUALLY get some backend help to fund things like online presence ect.
Things will survive, of course, but MOST things will be fricked one way or another.
Further, what's left afterwards might not be much better. The film industry had a similar collapse ages ago, and look what a frickfest that is now
You'd just get a Medieval 3 that plays like the latest shitty titles instead. Total War died over a decade ago, what we're seeing now is just a zombie.
Sales, warhammer fan reaction, total war fan reaction, critic reaction, and youtuber reactions were all positive, you're alone, now go have a nice day troony.
>muh sales numbers >muh whale opinions >muh shill opinions
what happened to this site
7 months ago
Anonymous
Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
pretty much majority of the members of the total war subreddit
7 months ago
Anonymous
Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
>Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
pretty much majority of the members of the total war subreddit
>claim X game was shit as an objective fact instead of your opinion >get proven wrong >get autistic and butthurt and then double-down moving the goalposts and throwing out ad hominems calling people cultists for proving you wrong
What is wrong with aspergers morons?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>proven
you havent proven shit, citing sales just proved you are a turbo moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
It sold well and got good reviews from the players and the critics. Yes, you were objectively proven wrong, cope and seethe.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>good reviews from the players and the critics
ok
7 months ago
Anonymous
not him but you are proving his point that you are autistic
7 months ago
Anonymous
Being correct does not always correlate with autism, a normal human being can come to the same conclusion.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you are autistic, he said the game got critical acclaim which is correct
right now the game is being review bombed over pricing, this doesn't undo the acclaim it got before that you autistic frick
7 months ago
Anonymous
The covid crisis generation being actually worst that milenials, who saw this coming?
>total war fan reaction
Cease your revisionism, the pre-warhammer fanbase was vocally disgusted with not being able to conquer every province on the map as well as numerous other complaints.
They had good aspects but they couldn't get over the gameplay feeling like floaty bullshit. Only archers and artillery feel good in that series. Then there's all the asiaticclick and no breathing room for strategy in the battles.
Artillery feels good in everything except Empire. Infantry feel good in Rome 1 and Med 2. Archers feel fine in Med 2 and the crossbowmen and gunners feel great.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I dislike ranged in rome 1 and Medieval 2. Artillery feels like I'm hitting them with styrofoam. Archers and guns are technically better, but they just have no impact whatsoever. Even looking at the kill feed afterwards makes them seem like a joke even if they are "strategically" important.
Infantry is good in Rome 1. I want to say they are okay in Med 2, but the two handed bug combined with the ridiculously overpowered nature of cavalry makes them not good for much other than holding the line.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Styrofoam? Artillery is a guaranteed kill in Med 2. And holding the line is their job so that's why I like them so much, and why they're so unsatisfying in warscape shit due to no unit collision.
Try using crossbowmen close up, their impact is massive. I still remember the battle where I defended a city from a massive army using only a skeleton crew, with the decider being my units of crossbowmen in the streets.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I actually like arty in ETW, the exploding rounds are very good and the cannons can really waste enemy lines. Also, not a big fan of archers and crossbows in M2TW, I think it's the sound or something idk
But I agree with you overall
7 months ago
Anonymous
ETW cannons are weird to me because everything feels good BUT the default shot.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Really? Maybe I'm too spoiled by mods, I've been playing with some modded visual effects and sounds for quite a while now
Good with it's death perhaps something good might come out. Legit all limitations on the old total war titles could have been removed by now by the twcenter autists but never did it because it's illegal an shieeet
Do we really need another thread? Who cares. They'll either make a good game and people will play it or they won't and they'll die. There's nothing to talk about.
Let SEGA fix their shit first before rushing another shovelware Total War or any game really
The total war series is oversaturated
Gaming culture is dead and Ganker killed it more like it.
Much though I want to say you are correct, no.
Corporate greed has killed video games. We are in the middle of a crash.
You and the increasingly irrelevant sectors of gaming in a crash, the relevant part of the industry isn't. The industry is booming.
>You and the increasingly irrelevant sectors of gaming in a crash,
No, everything is in a crash. Most companies have suffered massive loses and/or layoffs. The entire live service bubble has collapsed in on itself.
>Yeah, well, GTA and Call of Duty is still really profitable.
Of course they are really profitable. The fact that clearly isn't enough shows just how fricked things are.
You misunderstood my post
Oh.
Fair enough, I can't actually object to that.
The things game devs don't understand, is that most of these markets are individually separated. If you go from making PC games to making smartphone games, you INSTANTLY just erased your PC market and have switched fully to the mobile arena. Nobody on PC wants to play mobile shit....It's WHY they fricking bought a thousand dollar fricking desktop to begin with.
Consoles somewhat share a market with PC, but barely. Console players also hate fricking mobile-shit as well though, it's why they bought the fricking console to begin with.
Mobile games, stay mobile games. You don't gain any market share by switching it. You simply...."switch" to a separate market, where you then are competing with the trillions of pajeet street-shitter apps that are barfed out on the play stores.
The sooner devs realize this, the better.
To fricking bad that the primal objective of being into any market is gain as much money as possible, right anon?
The market for mobile is massive, but good fricking luck getting a fraction of the market share. Even if you do, people usually don't care for developers but for individual games on mobile, so good luck keeping that share.
>people usually don't care for developers but for individual games
That's the way it should be.
With Call of Duty I have a free pass, but GTA, considering how a hacker fest is the multiplayer ,even today?
It's somehow still popular.
I don't get it either.
GTA sells on brand name alone, normies buy it simply because every other normie buys it. It's like the scores of people who watched The Mandalorian or Game of Thrones despite having no actual interest in the subject matter just because they didn't want to be left out of the conversations when their friends/co-workers were talking about the latest episode.
Game of Thrones was good for a couple of seasons as a book reader but then it went crap. Only normie slop eaters stayed after season 4.
Just like the spanish housing crisis back in 2008!
This impacts most of the relevant parts.
The people who have money and ultimately pay for a project that requires 200-600 people's man hours for three to five years are collapsing. This doesn't suddenly not impact the employees who are doing their jobs well enough, because they tend to work for these people.
Only true rogue indies, which there are very few, MOST get money from these people, or occasional small AA developers who have kept their heads down through the insanity will not be completely fricked by this, and even then, they USUALLY get some backend help to fund things like online presence ect.
Things will survive, of course, but MOST things will be fricked one way or another.
Further, what's left afterwards might not be much better. The film industry had a similar collapse ages ago, and look what a frickfest that is now
Gaming culture is still alive, it's just shifted focus to AAA capeshit and Netflix-like experiences
Uh uh, and this world is having eternal peace and no any wars whatsoever...
Thank god, gaming culture in its current state deserves a painful, obliterating death. Frick nu-gamers.
Take your pansy shit-asses back to Fortnite where they belong, and STAY THERE.
Corporate culture killed it, along with everything else. Ganker was never that powerful.
>Bombing suicide messages anyone?
>I beLIEve you
"""Glad""" that neither side is in an agrement as of who is the real fault here, as per usuall...
smartphones have irreversibly fricked social interactions, internet culture, political discourse and video games
You will play ze mobile games
You will have ze fun
SEGA should just sell up to parafricks
>CA dies
>no more Total War games ever again
i dont care about them but i wish there was Medieval 3 TW with good AI before they die.
You'd just get a Medieval 3 that plays like the latest shitty titles instead. Total War died over a decade ago, what we're seeing now is just a zombie.
Nah, Warhammer 1 and 2 were good, frick you.
Warhammer 1 and 2 were not good to anyone but warhammer whales
Sales, warhammer fan reaction, total war fan reaction, critic reaction, and youtuber reactions were all positive, you're alone, now go have a nice day troony.
>muh sales numbers
>muh whale opinions
>muh shill opinions
what happened to this site
Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
>Corporations turned brands into religions. Anyone that disagrees with you is against you.
pretty much majority of the members of the total war subreddit
>claim X game was shit as an objective fact instead of your opinion
>get proven wrong
>get autistic and butthurt and then double-down moving the goalposts and throwing out ad hominems calling people cultists for proving you wrong
What is wrong with aspergers morons?
>proven
you havent proven shit, citing sales just proved you are a turbo moron
It sold well and got good reviews from the players and the critics. Yes, you were objectively proven wrong, cope and seethe.
>good reviews from the players and the critics
ok
not him but you are proving his point that you are autistic
Being correct does not always correlate with autism, a normal human being can come to the same conclusion.
you are autistic, he said the game got critical acclaim which is correct
right now the game is being review bombed over pricing, this doesn't undo the acclaim it got before that you autistic frick
The covid crisis generation being actually worst that milenials, who saw this coming?
>total war fan reaction
Cease your revisionism, the pre-warhammer fanbase was vocally disgusted with not being able to conquer every province on the map as well as numerous other complaints.
They had good aspects but they couldn't get over the gameplay feeling like floaty bullshit. Only archers and artillery feel good in that series. Then there's all the asiaticclick and no breathing room for strategy in the battles.
>Only archers and artillery feel good in that series.
In 90% of total war games only cavalry feels good.
Artillery feels good in everything except Empire. Infantry feel good in Rome 1 and Med 2. Archers feel fine in Med 2 and the crossbowmen and gunners feel great.
I dislike ranged in rome 1 and Medieval 2. Artillery feels like I'm hitting them with styrofoam. Archers and guns are technically better, but they just have no impact whatsoever. Even looking at the kill feed afterwards makes them seem like a joke even if they are "strategically" important.
Infantry is good in Rome 1. I want to say they are okay in Med 2, but the two handed bug combined with the ridiculously overpowered nature of cavalry makes them not good for much other than holding the line.
Styrofoam? Artillery is a guaranteed kill in Med 2. And holding the line is their job so that's why I like them so much, and why they're so unsatisfying in warscape shit due to no unit collision.
Try using crossbowmen close up, their impact is massive. I still remember the battle where I defended a city from a massive army using only a skeleton crew, with the decider being my units of crossbowmen in the streets.
I actually like arty in ETW, the exploding rounds are very good and the cannons can really waste enemy lines. Also, not a big fan of archers and crossbows in M2TW, I think it's the sound or something idk
But I agree with you overall
ETW cannons are weird to me because everything feels good BUT the default shot.
Really? Maybe I'm too spoiled by mods, I've been playing with some modded visual effects and sounds for quite a while now
Just let it die. Part of being an adult is to let go of things. They'll never, ever have a game with "good ai" anyway.
>where’s the players?
banned
Rightfull so shitrats.
Tsunomaki Clan DLC for Total War: Shogun 2 when?
It's kind of funny that they make all these Total War games that nobody asked for but can't make a new Medieval Total War.
it would be shit if they did anyways