"Can I play a Dragon"

Player this is my FINAL stance on the subject.
I will NOT let you play a dragon.
If you continue to speak up, I will NOT let you play a dragonborn either.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    But can I play a Dagon?

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have played a dragon in a game. It was fun.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try asking the other players at the table if they'd be okay with one of them playing a dragon and about the size/age/power level of said dragon.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if we're all dragons? What if we're Bad Dragons?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      A party of dragons going on draconic adventures could be fun, actually.
      There is nothing wrong with a high power PC if he's with other high power PCs in a high power campaign.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That would be less powerful than normal PCs, on account of having less access to game-breaking spells.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wings of Fire setting and rpg when?

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The correct response is:
    "What kind of dragon?"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      One with big breasts

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then the answer is no.
        And also please leave the table.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Make me.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          c'mon, man
          let him be a big titty dragon
          don't be such a drag

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        YES

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I let my friend play a dragon from some 3rd party book. Five natural attacks, damage reduction, flight....his only weakness was his AC and he begged for a buff to that because it was so low. Gave it, then suddenly his AC became like 35 because he actually bothered to get buffs. He takes up half the squares in the dungeon on the battlemats and makes tabletop combat a clusterfrick. I'd be mad but there are two other players in the party with Large sized pets that they can enlarge to Huge size and that's all RAW.

    I'm never DMing fricking Pathfinder again.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"These are not your cliche, typical adventurers. Surely you're not going to put them in a cliche, typical adventure?"
      >"Nah, it'll be fine."

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's dungeons and dragons. It's a game about dungeons. Do you expect none of the adventures to involve entering a structure? Why would they allow multiple pet classes to exist in that game? Why would they make your pets grow to LARGE size in a game like this?

        Also the game mostly is NOT about dungeons in fact. They are a side thing. But it's still annoying when it does happen and they complain that these ancient dwarves didn't make dragon sized rooms.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just get this on every pet character I make:
          https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/a-b/belt-of-the-weasel/

          If your players won't, just make them squeeze.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            He has it. It's just that I like to use miniatures and his giant-ass mini gets in the way and it just looks ridiculous in my mind imagining it. Btw Theater of the Mind combat fricking sucks, there's a reason I started out doing that and slowly began to do more and more grid based combat in anything that involved melee.

            [...]
            have you tried not being a shit DM with no agency?

            Have you tried sucking my dick? "Agency" is a stupid nonce word.

            Does pathfinder have rules for playing a dungeon?

            Pathfinder is Dungeon and Dragons clone.

            >It's dungeons and dragons. It's a game about dragons. Do you expect none of the adventurers to be giant fire breathing reptiles?

            I don't because the game isn't designed for that tbh.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's not my fault you are a midwit with no imagination or control at the table

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              unfortunately theater of the mind is superior.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Does pathfinder have rules for playing a dungeon?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://battlezoo.com/products/free-item-battlezoo-ancestries-dungeons

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It's dungeons and dragons. It's a game about dragons. Do you expect none of the adventurers to be giant fire breathing reptiles?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you could just describe locations as being sufficiently large that size isn't a problem.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would they make your pets grow to LARGE size in a game like this?
          because a Horse is large sized and somebody having a fricking horse in this game about playing as knights and fighting dragons isn't a terribly large ask

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you meant to type it became 35 because you gave him buffs

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah bro I let him increase his AC by 5 because it was more in with what a fighter could get and he couldn't wear armor. But then he decided to have mage armor put in him plus some other bullshit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's dungeons and dragons. It's a game about dungeons. Do you expect none of the adventures to involve entering a structure? Why would they allow multiple pet classes to exist in that game? Why would they make your pets grow to LARGE size in a game like this?

      Also the game mostly is NOT about dungeons in fact. They are a side thing. But it's still annoying when it does happen and they complain that these ancient dwarves didn't make dragon sized rooms.

      have you tried not being a shit DM with no agency?

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    who are you talking to?

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dungeon Master. I tell you, I’m going into battle, and I need to play as your strongest dragon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't know what you ask, player. You can't handle my strongest dragons.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You don't know what you ask, player. You can't handle my strongest dragons.

      Frick off, meme-forcing toddler.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    d&d really breaks from something as basic as playing a dragon? what an awful system

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could you please give us a detailed and specific post about the situation this occurred in? Make sure to include system and setting.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Game Master, what am I allowed to play?
      You will answer "Nothing, forever" and then shoot me in the head, because of the post-hypnosis command my mom implanted in your mind.

      why are you replying to a bot?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game Master, what am I allowed to play?
    You will answer "Nothing, forever" and then shoot me in the head, because of the post-hypnosis command my mom implanted in your mind.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who hurt you OP?

    Also draconic races are based and the fact PF2e doesn't have one yet is a shame.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >saying no
    >playing D&D

    It's a valid R.C.C & it's not like we are playing a CS only campaign so I don't care bro I hope you have fun with your first time playing RIFTS

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, it depends on the rules and the setting. Let him playthe first session as a useless dragon egg and then 10 odd years as a barely useful dragon hatchling. Melee fighter only, 1d2 damage, no spells, no ranged breath weapon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read this wrong initially and thought you said that you should let him play an egg thats only ability is the fighter to throw him for 1d2 damage

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    But what if I play like a level 1 baby dragon and get stronger as I level up??

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      By level 20 you're a medium-sized dragon.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if we play something with playable dragons?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      THAT LOOKS ASS ANON

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything has playable dragons if you want.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I will NOT let you play a dragon.
    Let him play a Steel or Shadow dragon. The LA for those is more or less ballanced.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    But what if I play a silver dragon that's purposefully stunting their growth and development in human form, like he's playing DnD?

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just kick them out. Clearly they are going to be a problem. Better for them to find another group, too.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    3.5 has rules for this. Whether you agree with those rules is another thing but you just sou d like a shitty dude

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not seeing it in Savage Species
      Where's that located

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's one of the Dragon magazines. 332?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The draconomicon probs.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's one of the Dragon magazines. 332?

        Draconomicon you fricking plebs

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's your stance on playing Wyrms, Drakes, or Wyverns?

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Big Dragon Mommy

    Health 11
    Edge 12

    9d might, 9d toughness, 6d agility
    6d intellect, 6d perception, 12d willpower

    6d academics, 6d charm, 6d command
    3d covert, 3d investigation, 3d medicine
    3d professional, 6d science, 3d streetwise
    6d survival, 6d technology, 3d vehicles

    12d claw strike
    9d fire breath
    6d flight - wings
    10d shockwave
    true sight

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nono
      Edge always
      Love me dragon mommies

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dragonkin

    Creature Type. You are a Dragon.
    Ability Score Increase. Choose one of: (a) Choose any +2; choose any other +1 (b) Choose three different +1
    Size. Medium

    Speed. Your base walking speed is 30 feet.

    Flight. Thanks to your wings, you have a flying speed equal to your walking speed. You can't use this flying speed if you're wearing medium or heavy armor.

    Darkvision. Dragonfolk are adapted living and flying at twilight hours. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and in darkness as if it were dim light. You can't discern color in darkness, only shades of grey.

    Claws. You have claws that you can use to make unarmed strikes. When you hit with them, the strike deals 1d6 + your Strength modifier slashing damage, instead of the bludgeoning damage normal for an unarmed strike.

    Damage Resistance. You have resistance to the damage type associated with your draconic ancestry as seen on page 34 of the Players Handbook.

    Languages. You can speak, read, and write Common and Draconic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >d&d

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >d&d

      Yes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Already done! I don't think its anything too crazy powerful mechanically- you could probably make a good argument saying Winged Tieflings are better than this, but thats okay Winged Tieflings are really good.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        could this be any gayer

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Could you?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dragonkin

        Creature Type. You are a Dragon.
        Ability Score Increase. Choose one of: (a) Choose any +2; choose any other +1 (b) Choose three different +1
        Size. Medium

        Speed. Your base walking speed is 30 feet.

        Flight. Thanks to your wings, you have a flying speed equal to your walking speed. You can't use this flying speed if you're wearing medium or heavy armor.

        Darkvision. Dragonfolk are adapted living and flying at twilight hours. You can see in dim light within 60 feet of you as if it were bright light, and in darkness as if it were dim light. You can't discern color in darkness, only shades of grey.

        Claws. You have claws that you can use to make unarmed strikes. When you hit with them, the strike deals 1d6 + your Strength modifier slashing damage, instead of the bludgeoning damage normal for an unarmed strike.

        Damage Resistance. You have resistance to the damage type associated with your draconic ancestry as seen on page 34 of the Players Handbook.

        Languages. You can speak, read, and write Common and Draconic.

        Already done! I don't think its anything too crazy powerful mechanically- you could probably make a good argument saying Winged Tieflings are better than this, but thats okay Winged Tieflings are really good.

        Dragonkin or reskinned Winged Tiefling legit hits all the major requirements for a "dragon" PC. Then just take spells like Alter-Self, Mage Armor, and Dragon's Breath to complete the fantasy,

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Or you could just play a dragon.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one wants to learn 2e for a Council of Wyrms game, and I haven't had the courage to ask a DM if I can use True Polymorph during a level 20 one-shot.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's a one shot, it's literally your one shot. Do it already.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >pic rel
              Is she single?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I agree, there's options that fit naturally in 5e D&D at least:
          >Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk
          >Draconic Sorcerer
          >Aberrant Mind Sorcerer (If you want a Psychic Dragon)
          >Divine Soul Sorcerer (If you want a divine one)
          >...Really any Sorcerer now that I look at them
          >Any Warlock for that pact flavor
          >Any Wizard that's not a Bladesinger
          Play a Dragonkin or reflavored Winged Tiefling or Reflavored Aarokora or something and it can do it solidly without being as overpowered as just having a player play a CR 8+ Statblock with no scaling.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    But you told me this was a Council of Wyrms campaign!

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was explicitly allowed in oD&D to play as anything, including monsters, as long as they started at the same power level as the other characters and progressed through tiers. Dragon and vampire were the two examples. This is literally an idea as old as the hobby and OP is a homosexual.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OP stood looking at the poster who insisted the player should be allowed to be a dragon
      >He glanced over to see The Poster's collection of commissioned dragon art and dragon-centric discord erotic role play groups

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh yeah?
        >said the anon with the adult human male fighter fetish
        Checkmate.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          homie that's just called being gay

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I will NOT let you play a dragon.
    If you can't do it thats because you suck at the game OP.

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not even if it's a golem dragon?

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This doesn't happen.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      One time I had a player ask to be a sapient pair of pants.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Was it a good fit?

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Screw OP. What games support me playing a dragon? Which is the best?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      RIFTS. It's awesome

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Prowlers and paragons.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My GM best bro lets me play something far cooler. Illithid.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They have illithid dragons

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no the PTSD is kicking
        Please no no no more noooooo

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did you set that up?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I asked him if I could play an illithid, and he said yes.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          How's the balance?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            The rest of the party are kinda brainless.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous
  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the idea of players who bring this shit to tables, but honestly, I've never encountered them. I'm pretty clear at outset what kind of game we're playing, and if they're in my inner circle, I let them shape the game.

    If someone really wants to play a dragon, I'm not miffed by it, unless they're insisting to play it in an inappropriate game. Otherwise, having a game of dragons or mega monsters scheming together, is a fun game idea BUT only if the other players are down.

    Basically, I'd not allow it in a standard dungeon fantasy game, but if my players want something more like an evil civ game, I'm down.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can I play a dragon?
    Sure. A juvenile dragon forced into the form of a lesser race, sent out into the world to learn how it works by your mother, who has a viscious sink-or-swim attitude toward her children. You will multi-class into every basic class and progress slowly, but you will have an attribute boost to start, and dragon powers will unlock for you at certain levels. Your true identity is a secret, and enemies will be searching for you. Learn what you can and gather allies for the day you can assume your true form and reveal yourself.
    Good luck.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, I'll play a full dragon with all powers and you can't stop me.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, okay, no need to shout. I'll play a kender instead.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, play a dragon.
    BTW, the kingdom has a 5000 GP bounty on dragon heads.
    Soon enough the other PCs will be 5000 GP richer and someone will be rolling a new character and wishing they didn't have a huge comparative financial deficiency.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd just like it to be noted for the record that Council of Wyrms was a 2e setting that let you play dragons and it was fricking great.
    >Imagine Dragon? Imagine Dragon these nuts across OPs forehead Lmao

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yeah, sure you can true polymorph into a dragon
    >*casts dispel magic*

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      fails 🙂

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hi r3.ddit.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd let them play a baby or juvenile dragon, they're pretty much just a sorcerer in a non-human body.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A dragon? Sure, anon. The other players are a glitter boy, a mind melter, and a cyber knight so I think you'll find your own niche.

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dragongay is back at it again

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i wanna be trogdor

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    one of the games i'm in now is a kobold game where we all play kobolds. it's pretty fun actually

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dragons are very cool

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >“I want to play as a dragon!”
    >“Well as we are playing Fantasycraft you’ll have to start as drake.”

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fun idea for a character:
    >red hair
    >fiery temper
    >impetuous
    >imperious
    >petty
    >loves treasure
    >believes that they are actually a young red dragon who has been polymorphed by a cursed magical item into a human or half-elf without any special dragon powers
    >tries to get the party to go on all sorts of bullshit adventures in their quest to undo the curse and restore them to their natural dragon form
    >is actually just batshit crazy and is actually *not* a shapeshifted dragon, just a relatively regular human or half-elf

    I unironically want to play this character, but I suggest you say "okay: you can play a dragon; but..." to players, and then have them play this character (whose true non-dragon nature you possibly secret from the player lol).

    Would you allow someone like me to play such a character?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can play as a dragon who's been cursed by Bahamut and transformed into a mere mortal until you earn redemption (which will conveniently coincide with reaching the level that players can permanently transform themselves into dragons anyways with true polymorph)

    this is literally one of the suggested backgrounds for Tyranny of Dragons by the way. You can do the same shit with somebody wanting to be some edgy ancient evil or demon god or whatever anime villain of the week they're trying to LARP as (probably Sukuna instead of Naruto these days), just say "sure.....but your powers have diminished to the point you're no more than a weak mortal at the moment, you'll need to work to regain your powers" and then start them as a dhampir or hexblood

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