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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a singleplayer game, the DLC is nowhere in sight and the CK for modding isn't even released

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      but more importantly - it's a shitty game you dumb homosexual

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        Anonymous
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        Anonymous
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        Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        fbpb

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is that why I beat it like 8 times you b***h?

        https://i.imgur.com/D9sRfDF.jpg

        Can it get any worse?

        Got bored with with after so many play throughs
        Will probably pick it up again later just like I still play Skyrim every once and a while

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Is that why I beat it like 8 times you b***h?
          Correct, you beat it like 8 time because you're a dumb homosexual.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            no u

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      And yet EVERY other bethesda game has far more players on steam. No Bethesda game has had this sharp of a decline which is made even sadder since it had a lower player count to begin with than a lot of their other releases

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it had a lower player count to begin with than a lot of their other releases
        No it didn't.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek yeah it did, Skyrim and Fallout 3 had way more

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            No they didn't. Skyrim had 280k, Fallout 3 had 10k. Starfield had 330k. The only Bethesda game that had a higher all-time peak was Fallout 4, at 470k.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >has had this sharp of a decline
        Because of the Creation Kit. Fallout 4 had an almost 90% drop in players and was only stemmed because the first bits of the Creation Kit came out within 4 months.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >made even sadder since it had a lower player count to begin with than a lot of their other releases
        Almost like they should have made a good product.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >And yet EVERY other bethesda game has far more players on steam.
        they arent playing the game. they install porn mods and jerk off.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >IT'LL BE BIGGER THAN SKYRIM YOU DIRTY SNOYS

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >delayed release for almost a year despite claims at the time the game was ready to ship
      >construction set still not ready months after release
      The most baffling part of this, they HAVE to know that only mods could have saved this mess, how was the construction set not ready on day one?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably they were hoping it would be wildly popular so they could beat the modders to the punch and enforce their dumbass creation club from the start. Executives froth at the mouth that modders make content for free that takes away from their next 20 dollar texture swap.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >waiting for the heat to die down first so they can set the precedent with paid mods 3.0 first
        Imagine kneecapping your own trajectory and free marketing just to gather a few extra pennies from consolecucks and a handful of homosexual whales.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Directly trading fan goodwill for cash has been their model for a while

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        even without official tools modders are doing all the fricking work
        jesus frick Todd just release that shit already

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It's a singleplayer game
      How do you explain that BG3 far exceeds Starfields active player accounts on Steam despite releasing way before it then?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        chinese bots

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're confusing BG3 with Palsworld, anon.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your game needs to be interesting, to get people willing to mod it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not modding this, all my attention is on palworld.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skyrim had a hugely active modding scene before the CK was released

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Skyrim also runs on toasters

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black person, even one of the best fricking modders (Skyrim Together modding team) refused to make a Starfield multiplayer mod because "The game is boring and bland." In other words, Starfield is a fricking big pile of dogshit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      while this is true for most shit bethesda games have always had longer retention than this

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the CK for modding isn't even released
      At this point I don't think it's coming. They're probably just trying to forget Starfield exists and move on.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      meanwhile balding gay 3

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Source SDK Base 2007
        What are they playing?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Player retention only matters for multiplayer games, Starfield has made all it's money already, they won.

      >game is bad because I can't larp as a fricktarded nazi, also black people

      lmao you wonder why this site is fricking dead

      he won trannies

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      the important distinction is how fast it happened.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        skyrim creation kit literally released 3 months after launch you fricking moron

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          okay? that doesn't change the fact that its bleeding players at a faster rate.
          maybe they should have released the starfield creation kit 3 months after release too if they wanted to maintain players. i dont know how they could market starfield as a game they want to support for 10 years and not release the creation kit in a timely manner, its self-sabatoge.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Skyrim had longer legs than this, though. i remember people playing it for months in droves. It dropped off a bit, but not this bad. I don't think even mods will help until the first big overhaul mod debuts.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's not Bethseada's incompetence that killed Starfield, it's Bethseada's incompetence that killed Starfield

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was surprised at the time what a normie hit Skyrim was. Every other art hoe was playing it back then.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your pic is disingenuous. The special edition still has over 20k players.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      if the game weren't so shit, you wouldn't need modding. Keep making more excuses.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ck for modding isn't even released
      It's over, no one's going to waste their time cleaning up Bethesda's mess

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      LOL. Explain why Skyrim has more players than flopfield

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      almost 10 years old

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        another slop

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Fallout 4 as of right now on Steam
      17,794 In-Game

      >Skyrim as of right now on Steam
      24,273 In-Game

      >Starfield as of right now on Steam
      7,877 In-Game

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
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        Anonymous

        >[medic] her vital signs, no no no

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Skyrim got a decent amount of fanservice to keep the players interested until the mod arrives.
    >Starfield hate the players and keep shoving Black folk at every turn

    And then they complained on why people barely care about starfield...

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Skyrim got a decent amount of fanservice
      Such as?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Literally got a 1000 year old virgin vampire who got kinky raped in her dreams by a god to be our bratty not-waifu

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          none of it is in the game its all schizo esoteric morrorwind lore. This is why I hate TESBlack folk. You basically cope with these games being shit by just making shit up in your head

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's literally in the game moron, take your meds

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    They could have removed all white people from the universe.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly can’t remember much of this game other than collecting pieces of scrap metal in space

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >MS paid $7.5 billion for this

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Phil Spencer is Playstation's greatest ally.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This is worse than Arnold messing with Stalone level of fricking up

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Qrd on that?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Based, thou it's ironic how they namedrop Terminator: Dark Fate because that movie is fricking shit and it rightfully bombed

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that's easily the second best terminator movie

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >MS paid $7.5 billion for this

        Holy shit that deal for Bethesda was not worth it. Starfield has shown everyone Elder scrolls 6 is gonna be complete trash

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          That and there should have been a mountain of evidence that the game was headed for disaster in 2021, they bought this turkey know it it was going to be a mess.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they bought this turkey know it it was going to be a mess.
            Actually, not really. These suits do NOT play video games themselves. They lie and say they do and take photos of them doing so but it's all "how do you do, fellow gamers!" If they had played games at all it was probably pac-man + pinball machines when they were teenagers. All they knew was "this company makes money printing games, and they are making another one, this SHOULD be a money printer too!"And that's it.
            Also, normies and fanboys probably didn't see it coming either.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          you probably played Oblivion and Skyrim.
          did you actually think Elder Scrolls 6 wasn't going to be trash?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh no a 3 month exclusive deal?! better by up the whole company!

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it would've been a year but... still not good for a panic buy-- just means phil spencer really thought starfield was good

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        starfield would have gotten 10/10s if this happened

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Oh shit they got Deathloop! Better spend $7.5 billion dollars

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it was worth it for the IPs (kind of). a competent studio will be able to do great things with the elder scrolls and fallout.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah because Microsoft has been known to really grown their studios, just look at Rare and Bungie

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a competent studio
        >in the west
        >in the year of our lord of 2024
        Uh oh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying 7.5B for Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Starfield, Dishonored, Prey, Wolfenstein, Doom and Quake isn't worth it
      Even if that means shutting Bethesda down and handing their IPs over to inXile or Obsidian, the franchises alone pay for the purchase price itself.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not. Total revenue for all the Bethesda fallouts combined is probably 1 billion. Even worse that their games are always in deep discount.

        Also id games don't make the money that they used to in the 90s.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >obsidian
        Their skyrim-like had be rebooted mid development like three times and it's scope has been narrowed to being smaller than outer worlds and you think they could make something full on elder scrolls??

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think Disney even made their money back from buying Star Wars.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/microsoft-reports-second-best-q4-and-full-year-gaming-revenue/
      Yes it was. Ganker is, as usual, completely out of touch with reality. Money talks, losers like you walk.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was the 11th best selling game of 2023, pretty dismal performance for a Bethesda open world RPG.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >paid 7.5 billion
      >have gotten redfall and starfield so far

      lol.lmao.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Phil Spencer is Playstation's greatest ally.

      Phil may actually be a Sony double agent.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only good thing that came out of the buyout was Hi Fi Rush and even then it wasn't enough

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Other Skyrim

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Todd is forever btfo.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still on Skyrim 🙂

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      someone will probably make a space mod for skyrim that will kick starfield's ass in the future

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the players still exist

    they just aren't playing right now

    their memory of playing still exists and they continue being players of the game. Player count posting is a fallacy

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the actual main story of Starfield?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me. I want to know for shitposting purposes.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Something something civil war and acquiring wheat and something something universe reset

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're a miner on some shithole moon hired by a Black archaeologist to find a mystical space MacGuffin. The space rock knocks you out and makes you hallucinate, Black arrives and tells you you're a part of the archaeologist organization now, cue search for other MacGuffins. Along the way you acquire Dragonborn I mean Starborn superpowers and you're accosted by ayys, except the ayys seem awfully human, and you eventually find out that they're not ayys, they're humans from other universes and that's what the MacGuffins are for
      Your friend dies, one of the ayys turns out to be your dead friend, you find out that the MacGuffins can destroy worlds, the coolest mission/only mission worth noting in the game happens where you're being thrown between universes and one's a total shithole infested with bugs. Almost like Starfield's version of The Flood, only with multiversal travel
      End mission has you make a decision between joining the dead friend, the guy that killed him, or neither which has them team up against you. This culminates in you having all the space rocks and gives you the opportunity to hop universes to start it all again
      That's not counting the factions, and I might have forgotten some things since I last played in September

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you are dragonborn in space with quiet shouts you learn from space dragon temples, no draugurs

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skyrim in space but with globohomosexual reeking all over it, and game itself is boring as hell, broken, and disjointed as hell. Story barely makes any sense and there's very little connectivity, also the lore is non-existant.

      you are dragonborn in space with quiet shouts you learn from space dragon temples, no draugurs

      Except in Skyrim you know what you're getting. In Starflop things you get are completely randomized and there are barely any explanations.

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Todd Howard just make Palworld in Space?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Starfield is his dream game. It's what he's wanted to make for over 20 years. This is his magnum opus. He implies as much during his Lex Friedman interview. This game with the way its designed is what he got up everyday for.

      Face it. He's a boring hack held up by memes and nostalgia homosexualry.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Considering it's Todd, I almost hope he's lying about that as usual, because if this is the apex of his creative output, his vision made manifest, then what the frick is his damage.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not even the modders want to touch this fecal stain of a game. It's just tha tbad.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    im sorry to say but people fly through games now

    only a few stick around to 100% and then some

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, the exact opposite is true. People pick one or two games and play them forever these days.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Normally I'd say "that's normal", but that's kind of abnormal for a Bethesda game.
    I haven't played it, is it really that bad? Or just unmemorable and simply "okay"?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's biggest sin is that its so fricking boring. There's a thousand loading screens at every turn, no space exploration, you can't land on planets by flying your ship to them (in a fricking space game) and there's just no edge. Skyrim had a nationalist faction, fallout had a fascist faction. With starfield there's pirates who aren't really bad guys tbh and there's other people who are just good through and through. Oh yeah, and literally every person you can talk to is an essential npc so you can't kill them.
      It's just basically if Blackrock made a game
      There's also Black folk shoved in your face constantly but that's the least of its worries

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weird. Wonder why the hell they took that approach for the game. Hubris?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Incompetence and people who grew up playing skyrim, not developing it, made the game. The core fundamentals of a Bethesda game are missing. Sure mission design was never the strong point but exploration ALWAYS immersed the player.
          >go here
          >a castle is nearby
          >player checks it out
          >finds some relic that leads to another mission
          >go on said mission or continue what you originally came to do
          Starfield is just
          >go here
          >go back
          >go here

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Incompetence and people who grew up playing skyrim, not developing it, made the game. The core fundamentals of a Bethesda game are missing. Sure mission design was never the strong point but exploration ALWAYS immersed the player.
          >go here
          >a castle is nearby
          >player checks it out
          >finds some relic that leads to another mission
          >go on said mission or continue what you originally came to do
          Starfield is just
          >go here
          >go back
          >go here

          Why was Starfield the game where people suddenly decided that Bethesda's decades of incompetency wasn't cute anymore?

          All bethesda had to do was make a better space game than Outer Worlds and yet some fricking how they failed to do that.

          It's because SF is literally a 7th gen game. Everything about it was planned and approved over a fricking decade ago and development didn't start until around 2015. Everything in the game is the way it is because it WOULD have been somewhat impressive on the ps3/360. They were going to use the spectacle of multiple planet's and procedurely generated "exploration" to compensate for it being a new ip. Only they couldn't, but instead of improving on it over the years they just fricking stayed the course doing what they always do until 2023 with a game that was already DOA and their fan goodwill was already at an all time low. The sad thing is they were probably delusional enough to think it would be a smash hit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Starfield would still be a disappointing experience even if it came out a decade ago.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >game is bad because I can't larp as a fricktarded nazi, also black people

        lmao you wonder why this site is fricking dead

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would you ever wanna roleplay in an RPG?!

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Bethesda doesn't make RPGs. They make buggy sandbox games with jank action.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah sometimes I wanna roleplay as a bad guy in a roleplaying game

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >also black people
          or Black folk as i like to call them

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      same issue as Hogwarts for me
      It's got the atrophied muscles and no bones to hold them up

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what makes bethesda games good despite myriads of other flaws? the exploration. the feeling of going from A to B and stop to check C, D and E.
      what does starfield lack? the exploration. the game is literally picking a randomly generated square to fast travel to and then visit one of the 10 dungeon templates the game has to offer. every other system is self defeating and the lore is boring as sin, i couldn't tell you the name of a single character or any interesting event.
      the game you lost feels like it was made in a vacuum from other open world games, it was born old. no man's sky mogs starfield in literally everything you could think of

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is bad, even by betsdha standards. I'll try to share some info that most people don't know. Starfield has about 50 weapon types, and 200 points of interest. Compare that to fallout 4, which has 180 weapon types, and over 300 points of interest. Now, that wouldn't be so bad, but they decided to spread all that out over a much much bigger area than fo4, and 2ill even duplicate these areas to fill up space.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it didn't even seem like they had 50 weapon types
        >shotgun
        >pistol
        >sword
        >sniper rifle
        >rifle
        >rocket launcher
        and that was like it. the guns came in ballistic or energy variety, i guess.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a space exploration game with no sentient non-human characters to interact with, no non-human species to pick as the player, no warring empires, no enigmatic space debris from long-dead spacefaring civilisations, no Cthulu-esque space monsters eating planets, no depraved pockets of slavers or factions of drug-addled cybermen whose only purpose in life is space-rape...

        There were a million places to take the game, and they took the absolute safest, most inoffensive, bland and HR-endorsed route. I don't know if it was lack of imagination, fear of criticism, or deliberately avoiding certain tropes and themes for some other reason. It would be interesting to find out what the design brief was, and if any of it explains the limited scope.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Todd's dream game since childhood.
          Ha fricking ha.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fallout 4
        >180 weapon types
        I don't believe that for a single fricking second

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have no real standards, I still go back to skyrim sometimes, occasionally even oblivion, in the most dire of times fallout 4
      I reinstalled starfield 3 times telling myself I was being too cynical and it didn't work, the game is ass

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have no real standards
        I envy you

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm exaggerating obviously, I can tell when a game is shit, I'm just usually able to still get some enjoyment out of a shit game when I end up playing one, hence still going back to older bethesda games
          starfield blew me away, not even I could put up with it, the closest thing to enjoyment I get out of it is opening these threads to scroll and wonder what the frick happened

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait it's been 6 months already?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just over 5. End of Feb will be 6.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    meanwhile, at Bethesda HQ
    >we just patched FSR 3.0 in
    >that's it that's the ENTIRE update.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you dont even need to climb that mountain

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Starfield, a Western RPG game about space and planet exploration, has no vehicles
      >7 Rebirth, 33% of a game, has vehicles
      How can that be explained?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you try and climb that mountain youd be playing the game longer than 6 months before you even get there

      yikes no one actually is playing the game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you dont even need to climb that mountain

        >You can fast travel to the top of that mountain

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why was Starfield the game where people suddenly decided that Bethesda's decades of incompetency wasn't cute anymore?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's because of the boring/bland as frick setting, it just can't carry their shit ass gameplay anymore.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's ALL of their games

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because even if their other games were incompetent, it still hit the tropes and "immersion" stuff that fans of that genre can enjoy.
      Not even sci-fi genre fans can enjoy Starfield, because for whatever reason, they refused to put interesting aliens or planets into the game. There's nothing there for fans of the genre to help them overlook the normal Bethesda schlock.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Not even sci-fi genre fans can enjoy Starfield, because for whatever reason, they refused to put interesting aliens or planets into the game.
        I Still think they didn’t want to draw attention to other WRPGs like Mass Effect. Or other sci-fi tentpoles like Star Wars and Star Trek.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          aliens means less blacks means less ESG

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Couldn’t they do what BG 3 did and have aliens Mocapped by black actors? Even Star Trek has black coded alien races.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >black coded
              are you mentally moronic

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              You just know that plenty of people at Bethesda saw these NPCs and bit their tongue before they could ask anyone if they're really putting ugly Africans with moron haircuts in their brand new IP. This is design with HR breathing down their necks. Don't dare point out the obvious, just agree these moronic fat Black folk are what the modern audience crave.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you believe this anon in the archived thread below isn't larping (it certainly wouldn't surprise me, considering what we learned from gamergate), these big game corporations intentionally add shit like this so their games are demoralizing.

                https://www.archived.moe/v/thread/660537494

                >"We don't use the word 'fun'" -Neil Druckmann

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                are you posting archive links to your own schizo posts

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                No sir I'm posting kino schizo posts that I enjoy reading and believe to be true

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm crazy
                so yes it could be your own post

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Larping as a wagie is cringe though. I would never do that.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i, crazy moron, would never be a crazy moron

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >disparaging conspiracy theories in 2020+4
                Let me guess, you're vaxxed?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is it a conspiracy theory if you present your own schizo posts as an interested third party

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not my post, anon.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I would never be a crazy moron
                >-crazy moron
                oh okay

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're very suspicious for someone pretending to not be crazy

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                maybe you should post another archive of your own post about how suspicious I am

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't posted any archives of my own posts. I've never created a successful thread worth archiving.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I've never created a successful thread
                is that why this thread is so trash

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't even read it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't even read what, your schizo archive link to your own roleplaying post as a bethesda insider or your thread

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh so now I'm OP of this thread too? Are all threads my threads?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did I say all these threads are your threads?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That seems to be the direction you're heading in.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's weird that the first thing that pops into your head is that you make all the starfield threads

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You seem confused

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ya you’re anonymous and anonymous is the op. U dum

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Look at this and tell me that the person who made these characters doesn't hate black people.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Made me laugh

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >grounded-adjacent near-future space sci fi
        the concept required people smarter than what bethesda had

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, it started with Fallout 76 and it's myriad frick-ups starting with the brown trash bag that was supposed to be canvas included in the CE.
      Starfield needed to get a lot of things right to get back the OG goodwill but surprise surprise, Bethesda is made of hacks so there you go

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >lightwood laminate

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      4 was only bad in retrospect because you could easily excuse all the problems until you start to really think about it. The minute-to-minute gameply and gunfighting were both fun, and while the settlement building turned out to be pointless, it really scratched the hoarding/exploring/collecting itch that keeps bringing people back to Bethesda games. 76 was easily excused as a side-project so the core fans didn't care too much or take it as a huge red flag. Starfield was the first Bethesda game that has no excuse and is just not fun from the beginning.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        fallout 4 was fricking shit the moment you started it lmao

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        FO4 was bad under the microscope, yeah. Really bad. Like it was made by complete idiots who had no idea about anything other than being cosmopolitan consumers. But lets be real here; Bethesda has never been that great. Morrowind was unique because of it's setting, and writing. Oblivion was a step down from it. Skyrim was a step down from that. Fallout 3 was inexcusably bad, but had good atmosphere. Fallout 4 was somewhat of an improvement but only because the bar was already so low on 3. 76 should have been the eye-opener that Todd had lost it. B-team shenanigans be damned; he was still head of that company, and Fallout was one of his babies. He let that happen. If Starfield is any indication of how bad things can be with him at the helm, then why should anyone have any faith that TES VI is going to be any different? If you go by the trends for this company since Oblivion; it's going to be worse.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          What fallout 3 taught me is that Besthesda is full of boomers that are chubby and come to work in sandals, haiwaian buttonup shirts and shorts. they re cool old based guys who mow their lawn and they simply dont give a frick. they dont reall know fps game sor whatever, they mainly want to make a cool world, maps, quests etc. Thats why everyone is else is so fricked up. camera movement, buttons not responding (the crouch, weapon change, even the pipboy), the vats shoots in walls etc. very frustrating because all vof this can be solved but cheap budget and make a huge long game that can be replayed so much better, but it doesnt even go through the mind of these boomers, they re just making cool maps and going home. Look at hoiw the radiation debuff frickign sucks and can be easily ignored. most systemes are not thoroughly designed.

          It was the same in skyrim, everything is so shallow superficial and meaningless. The world is cool but everything else is fast food tier. and they sell anyway because people like the world so they dont feel super pressured to get better at it

          i was raging at how it feels like playing a camera without any headbobbing/inertia, then i saw fallout 4 had headbobbing and it was so fricking bad they could have no added it at all. they just dont know to do these thigns and they dont hire pros who know that kind of shit.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah. All Skyrim had going for it was the main map. The moment you went inside something, or God forbid; a dungeon, all that charm was sucked out of it like a Khajit hooker finding your moon sugar stash.
            The only reason to ever go into one of those one-direction-only samegay walkathons was because you needed something there or to trip a flag and gtfo.
            Fallout 3 and 4 had the same problem, though some dungeons could be more interesting.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The funny thing is Starfield has the same building mechanic, but to actually use it, you need to be like 50 hours into the game because it's perk locked behind multiple different options. Then on top of that, there's no point to it anyway, it's just a completely tacked on feature with no narrative purpose, and by that point, you'll have thousands of resources anyway.

        Fallout 4's building mechanics were simple and easy to access. From minute one you could focus solely on rebuilding Sanctuary and making your own little home, settlers would come, you'd assign them jobs, you'd get resources passively which would help ramp up your weapons early etc.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why was there "base building" in Starfield, seriously?
          It was just yet another thing to get disappointed over, trying to make a base and realizing there's about 40 different items in total (and 30 of those locked behind the science station).

          It would genuinely have been better if it wasn't in at all, rather than feeling like being mocked by the devs.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is pretty simple this is a new ip which mean there is nothing for braindead fans to just accept, yet. Fallout and elderscroll fans want more of what they want regardless of how janky it is.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Snoys are having a fit that it's not on Playstation.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      it doesn't have a single redeeming quality. even fallout 76 at least gave you an interesting world with cryptids and other fun shit. fallout 4 had memorable companions, skyrim had an amazing ost and god tier art direction.
      starfield is empty and soulless, in the sense nothing feels like was born of any actual passion.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The world in Starfield is lifeless, soulless and boring as frick. Other Bethesda games had fun worlds to explore with cool things to find and interesting NPCs to encounter. Starfield is just copy pasted, procedurally generated slop that reeks of curry. Smaller, handcrafted map that feels alive >>> infinite copy pasted, empty bullshit.

      Also, the NPCs all being nasty fricking mutts doesn't help. You won't even get the waifugays when all the women in a game look like boards made out of mystery meat. Devs need to stop catering to foids and trannies throwing a tantrum whenever they see an attractive woman on screen. Attractive women and women with curves (the way men define curves, not women) deserve representation too.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        But that describes Skyrim. Its boring, lifeless, and ugly. The gameplay was braindead easy and stale before it even came out and we still see people playing the modded version of this thing for years.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think Skyrim was just about as far as they could dilute/stretch the formula. Their games had been simplified and streamlined over and over up to that point; they found a relatively stable balance in Skyrim, got wienery, then slowly got even lazier with stuff like FO4's settlement system before finally shitting the bed with Starfield and putting no effort in.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >but the Fallout 4 speech wheel
            >we streamlined it by making it take longer to make than the old speech system
            >immediately went back to the old system in 76
            Fallout 4 gets a lot of rose tinted views but the game is objectively shit. It’s just not as shit compared to more recent Bethesda titles.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >But that describes Skyrim
          Yes, it does.
          Now imagine a game so boring, lifeless, and ugly that it makes Skyrim look good in those areas by comparison. That's Starfield, that's the game that's killing Bethesda finally.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They couldn't rely on the goodwill of a well established and successful franchise this time.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      fantasy and postapo are cool settings, TES and Fallout have great lore
      while "NASApunk" is boring as frick

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Things could break. But at least you can see when devs try to make them fun. This shit is pure mediocrity encapsulated.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Elder Scrolls/ Fallout format
      >but boring world with nothing to explore
      >boring world and campaign
      >boring characters
      >boring weapons
      >boting everything

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      bethesda has designed 2 types of sucessful games: massive proceduarlly generated worlds with interesting systems (arena and daggerfall) and small handcrafted worlds with interesting stories (the rest of their good games). starfield isnt full of interesting mechanics like early tes games (courts, banking with loans/interest, figuring out strategy for dungeons, and their procedural generation was bleeding edge in the 90s) and they didnt create the unique locations or personal stories from later games, so its just boring. also the issues with their engine that limit you to fast travelling everywhere means it has less potential for modding than many other spacex games.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bethesda has designed 2 types of sucessful games: massive proceduarlly generated worlds with interesting systems (arena and daggerfall) and small handcrafted worlds with interesting stories (the rest of their good games). starfield isnt full of interesting mechanics like early tes games (courts, banking with loans/interest, figuring out strategy for dungeons, and their procedural generation was bleeding edge in the 90s) and they didnt create the unique locations or personal stories from later games, so its just boring.
        this. I hope it changes. if not I hope someone worthy picks up that torch.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          outer worlds was breddy gud as a focused rpg, but i have yet to see something like daggerfall (unity for the good mod tools) in space. thats all i want now, a first person space exploration game where you have interact with bureaucracy, politics and markets and can choose from mutually exclusive routes through them.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      this

      Snoys are having a fit that it's not on Playstation.

      It's just another trash heap exactly like Fallout 4, Fallout 3, and Oblivion.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      People have started to smell the shit since Skyrim, maybe even Oblivion, but ultimately Skyrim and Fallout 4 still have the background of their respective series and the gameplay loop is still in that realm of "good enough" for the vast majority of people

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its'different this time. It's possibly one of the worst games ever made.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wow so you're a redditor?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Andre 3003

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because people were banking on it being at least good enough to mod and have a good space exploration sandbox because there really still isn't one, at least of AAA quality, but even Bethesda managed to frick that up royally. I'm sure modding will be somewhat better for it in about a year or so timeframe but the bones that are there really are just fricking terrible.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        "the bones" are why it will be so easy to mod, you buffoon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      People tolerated the bad gameplay of previous titles because the worlds were charming, interesting, fun to explore, and just plain comfy to exist in.
      Starfields world is the blandest shit ever and there's no exploration due to the "world" being 1000 disconnected, randomly generated, mostly empty squares.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i like starfield but it's literally fallout 4 meets skyrim in space
      that and it still runs like shit despite a year's delay and constant updates since then

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it largely comes down to Starfield being a new IP. With a bad Fallout or Elder Scrolls game, there are some diehard fans that say that they're just happy to have a new part of that world that they can explore, learn about, and adventure in. Starfield as an IP has no built in fanbase that has blinders on. This problem is exacerbated by Bethesda relying on those IPs as a crutch for so many years. They lean heavily on the work of people that are either long gone in the case of Elder Scrolls or the work that was done on Fallout before they bought it. This time they tried to make their own without even a fraction of the talent required to do it successfully. As a result they created one of the most bland and soulless universes I've ever seen in a game and as such it wasn't able to endear itself to an audience that might make them overlook its flaws the same way people do with their other franchises.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its soullessness seems like a deliberate choice rather than a result of incompetence. There is plenty of incompetence, don't get me wrong, but the aesthetics are painfully boring and universe is artificially limited in ways that are deliberate choices by Bethesda. It wouldn't have been hard to incompetently make an exciting universe compared to the intentional slop they created. It was never created with a soul in mind, it wasn't rendered soulless after the fact.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Starfield, this shitass game, is the reason why we haven't got Skyrim 2 yet. it's been 13 years since the last mainline Elder Scrolls game, and Starfield is one of the reasons why that is.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      normal unspoken rules of engagement means the player has to be discovering something every 40 seconds to stay entertained
      prev beth trash could do that because they had more or less unbroken open worlds you could move naturally in
      starfield broke that formula because it can't accomplish this even on an average of less than 5 minutes.
      it's actually designed to be 750% less fun and more time-wasting than anything you've ever played in your life
      they took 4 hours of content and designed it to be as insultingly boring as possible and filled it with as many Black folk and homosexuals as possible and told you while selling you this garbage content it would last ten years
      not even worth playing for free

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, Fallout 76 started to get people to finally wake up to their bullshit, it was this that was the straw that broke the camels back

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      previous games at least had soul and something interesting that would keep you playing
      bethesda's fallouts despite being absolute garbage had cool post apo world, and it was cool to just explore it and do some quests here and there even if they sucked
      TES is a great fantasy RPG series with good lore, beautiful worlds and a lot of freedom in what you can do with your character, it's not perfect, but it hooks the player
      starfield is just soulless garbage with loading screen after loading screen, it's not acceptable anymore in current year where 90% of the games let you roam freely big worlds without loading screens every fricking 30 seconds

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of people who (justifiably) hate Bethesdout ignore the main appeal it has for most of its fans is the world and level design. Obsidian's dungeons play out like someone wanted to take a battlemap from one of their favorite mediocre TTRPG adventure modules and recreate it in the Creation Kit, and then just randomly populated it with enemies with basically no regard for pacing or challenge. Bethesda dungeons laser-focus on telling a shitty story but an interesting set of experiences: here's dudes taking the high ground by patrolling on top of store shelves, here's a 300-year-old robot you can revive as a temporary ally, here's a giant super mutant you can release from their cage, here's an extra route you can take by cutting through an underground tunnel.

        Bethesda stories are slop built to get you into and out of their set of fun and unique encounters, and Obsidian encounters are there to fill in the time between immersive and intriguing story beats. This goes for all of both companies' games, including Alpha Protocol and Fallout 76.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah. There was never a time that I was scared while playing NV, but there were times in FO3 where going into an empty building could make my balls suck up into my body. FO3 had atmosphere and the Capital Wasteland (outside of DC) was genuinely interesting exploration. Sadly the plot, characters, and gear selection were all pants-on-head moronic.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Bethesdout
          I am eternally curious to what causes people to use these cutesy childish nicknames. "Take that, Obummer! heh heh heh!"

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a distinctively US American thing. Childish chiding and name-calling is an extremely high intellectual level of mockery for them. It's done, as you no doubt already know, to divide people into good/bad. My side and their side. Everything they don't like has to have a mocking description fitted to it, whether it be femoid, chud, troon, rightist et cetera.
            They didn't use to be like this, but it's just one of the many ways in which they have regressed and devolved as a society just in the past 25 years, and it's equally bad no matter what side of their political two-party clown circus they belong to, although the political ones seem far more drawn to employing this sort of baby-speak as a way to deride others.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              sometimes its funny i like microshart.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The anti-intellectual side of the aisle in our country happens to be the side that prides itself on being intellectual. The right might be a bunch of cowardly obsequious cattle, but the left are the ones going, "Pissbaby Shitlord!" at their opponents.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why was Starfield the game where people suddenly decided that Bethesda's decades of incompetency wasn't cute anymore?
      because of the hype and marketing.
      bethesda promised the world, well universe and bethesda fans knew what was gonna happen but normies did not know what was gonna happen.
      and after baldurs gate 3 showing that modern crpgs can still be complex and sell gangbusters, the way bethesda makes games just does not cut it anymore.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        BG3 makes no concessions to make it easily playable on consoles at the cost of the PC version. Bethesda definitely wanted to take a bite of the huge console market no matter the impact on the PC version.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout 4 was fun.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Oblivion: 150
      >Skyrim: 100
      >Fallout 3: 300
      >Fallout NV :500
      >Fallout 4: 600
      >Starfield: 15
      Because even Bethesda fans consider the game to be dogshit kek

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        what are these numbers

        I really do feel bad for the guys who wanted Starfield to do well

        There's tons of games better than Starfield that don't do nearly as well as it did, feel bad for those people instead

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what are these numbers
          Anon...please tell me you aren't unable to figure that out...

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't pay attention to this shit game studio's sales number or whatever

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout 76 did that, Starfield was their first release since and it looked shit from the trailers.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Both games are fundamentally shit due to Bethesda refusing to build a new engine. They tried to rehash the Fallout 4 engine to make an MMO. Eventually, after getting multiple teams, they managed to rehash 76 from a dog shit game into a mediocre one. Starfield meanwhile should have been the showcase game for a brand new engine, instead they just rehashed the Fallout 4 engine even more and used 6 trillion loading screens to keep it from crashing.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's no getting around the crap engine. Bethesda's failure is especially glaring compared to the competition. When you have a loading screen for almost every building, you have failed. Nintendo could get around that on their crappy hardware, and BG3 could pull that off even with a significantly graphically simpler, slow-moving game.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Fallout 76 did that
        They were able to deflect some of the blame to satellite studios and the game not being an "official" sequel. They have no excuse with Starfield

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          umm sweety. Everybody knows starfield was done by outsourced studious in india

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bethesda games are just too dated at this point in 2024. Loading screens, essential Npcs, boring world, boring characters, boring story, boring everything Elder scrolls 6 is gonna be even more of the same. You can barely call these games rpgs.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout and The Elder Scrolls were propped up by their world building. People could stand the jank because they played a game in a world they loved. Starfield didn't have that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      because all others at least had a sense of exploration.
      starfield is just a menu with loading screens and the occasional 3d interaction.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Skyrim was a big ass ambitious game so it was expected to be glitchy.
      76 was relentlessly mocked but it could be excused as a side project.
      Starfield could not.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Apparently so

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      because it was woke.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout 4 had a bad launch and was controversial
      Fallout 76 had a disastrous launch
      Starfield was mediocre. Bethesda needed to hit a home run and they whiffed it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      As other anons say, Bethesda has accumulated a whole list of frick ups before Shartfield, but this game was where people said "enough is enough", and turned their backs to Todd
      >The "Keep selling Skyrim for a decade everywhere" meme
      >Todd's sweet little lies
      >Fallout 4 was okay but incredibly dumbed down
      >Fallout 76 was a shitshow
      >Bethesda's push for paid mods
      >They paid reviewers to blatantly shill Starfield
      >It runs at 30fps on Series X
      >They had the audacity to say that "Starfield is optimized! Its your computer that is dogshit!", and that "the game is fun; you dont know how to have fun".
      >They still using the archaic gamebryo engine

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Gamebryo engine is fine as it is, it's probably one of best engines for open world games. Main problem is that Bethesda is too incompetent to work on it.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The fact that this engine carried bethesda all the way to 2024, means that gamebryo is a good engine. The only problem with it is that it cannot handle multiple rooms and vehicles. I dont know if it can be patched to do these things, but making a AAA immersive game without drivable vehicles and without loading times every time you enter a different place, is definitely immersion breaking

          I can't get over the general themes of the gigs and main story and the GTA-esque delivery of the advertisements that bombard you at all times. It's whiplash-inducing. Like at some point they weren't sure if they were going to be super serial, or really fricking moronic and nobody bothered to go all out and/or clean up the residuals left behind.

          CDPR wanted to go toe to toe with Rockstar and this is why Cyberpunk lots of times feels like a futuristic GTA game. I think that right now, free roaming Cyberpunk with mods feels better than free roaming GTA games with or without mods

          >its pretty edgy in a good way
          Cyberpunk is the only game that has recaptured the feeling I got from playing VTMB and trying to investigate violent snuff films in Hollywood.

          Yeah, Cyberpunk definitely has managed to capture the noir grittiness to a good extent

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They paid reviewers to blatantly shill Starfield
        Watching the aggressive, composed-almost-entirely-of-buttholes teams of Bethesda shills operate was something special. They seemed to have hired the most annoying pricks possible to wipe their stink all over the internet.

        The official Besthesda rep on rpgcodex was even doing the whole "come home, white man" bit. It was pathetic in its desperation.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >collect 10 rats tails for the inkeeper

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because, despite what Morrowtrannies / Codexucks think, Oblivion and Skyrim were, and still are, good and beloved games. Unlike Starfield.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Morrowtrannies / Codexucks
        You do realize you think exactly like them right now? You fell for their brainwashing

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I played Starfield, I have the experience of it being a bad game. The loading screens alone were bad enough that I would never consider playing it again (unless they fix it) but the worlds are bland, the equipment is bland, the shooting mechanics are bland (though, I don't really like FPS to begin with) and the setting is boring.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >good and beloved games
        they are not good, they have charm

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The setting is so bland and soulless, it seems like a deliberate choice. Their only selling pitch was "Nasa-punk" and they couldn't even commit to that. I was expecting bulky space suits, lunar rovers, space pirates, retro computers, and grounded, realistic designs. The game would've had an identity. Instead we got nonsensical alien creatures, skyrim magic, multiverse nonsense, and being the prophesied "Starborn".

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        nasapunk and all these things are not necessarily antithetic. but i dont see bethesda uplling it off, you would need to be very good technically, with vehicle, physics etc, which is the opposite of bethesda, known for making the clunkiest shite.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nasapunk would require an extreme attention to detail because realistic space stuff would require you to know a lot of things that are tropes in space sci-fi but don't exist in reality. Bethesda complete drops the ball when it comes to paying attention to the little things.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man that webm. Like all they had to do when asked "How do we make "nasapunk" and make it good?" was to point to this webm and go, "Make it like this."

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          This was made by a guy who worked on Baldurs Gate 3. Artstation is completely filled with "Nasa-punk" 3d renders and concept art. Bethesda is just incompetent as usual.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Here's another example made by an artist who works on Forza.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Sitting on the edge of a space ship in space
              This is fricking moronic.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                This could 100% be AI generated given how badly it misunderstands the impossibility of the subject matter.

                they're gonna jump

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, there is no practical application for stratosphere parachute entry. The concept is beyond fricking stupid.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you can get into orbit fast enough and land the men with accuracy, then you get pretty useful air assault troops.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              This could 100% be AI generated given how badly it misunderstands the impossibility of the subject matter.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Man that webm. Like all they had to do when asked "How do we make "nasapunk" and make it good?" was to point to this webm and go, "Make it like this."

        >bugthesda
        >vehicles
        lol

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          just make the vehicle a hat, and have the NPC wearing it run around on a second landscape about neck-height below the top landscape. problem solve 🙂

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >deranged New Frontier modders manage to crowbar decently working vehicles into an iteration of the engine from 15 years ago
          >bethesda can't do it themselves even now

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >finally decides to make it standalone so that you don't need to contend with smelly feet and slaveplay
            >this isn't even considered to be his greatest work either

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their incompetence was charming when it was clear that they had a vision and they really tried to make something despite being incapable of making video games. I liked Oblivion as a whole so much the potato faces didn't ruin it for me. The freedom of Skyrim was enough to make me forgive the simple and frankly uninspired story.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically the loading screens, that shit broke people.

      >But every other Bethesda game had loading screens
      The difference between Starfield and every other Bethesda title for the abundance of loading screens is night and day. There are six (6) loading screens between planets.

      >Fast travel to ship
      Load screen

      >Enter ship
      Load screen

      >Travel to space
      Load screen

      >Jump to target planet
      Load screen

      >Land on planet
      Load screen

      >Exit ship
      Load screen

      This would have been obscene in 2005, never mind 2023. In every other Bethesda title, load screens are reserved for entering/exiting interior locations, and fast travel. You could travel from one corner of the map to the other without ever seeing one if you avoided these two things. You can't avoid ship travel in Starfield, it's mandatory.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        small AAA studio please understand 🙂

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Game sucks https://youtu.be/sJalh-3ZeuQ

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    its the chinese tencent bots guys
    seriously just fricking buy starfield or else

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's almost like the game is boring as frick with too many loading screens between the action. Oh wait, that's exactly what the game is

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait for the shittie youtubers to get paid to spread the word of its "engoodening" again. we know they're gona pull that shit every frickin time now

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bethesda
      >engoodening anything

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are they going to completely rework the game and not have a million load screens? Because that's the only way their winning anyone back

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, they will take the CDPR approach and hire studio Trigger to make an anime adaptation

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          CDPR actually fixed and improved the game though. They overhauled a lot of stuff.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >CDPR actually fixed and improved the game

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I just finished playing it. The driving sucks and the main quest takes a fricking nose dive on the last act but everything else was very enjoyable. The dlc was really good.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                the game has two "bosses" you dumb Black person, then the credits roll.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick does that even mean? Did you think that sounded clever homosexual?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                it's not a complete experience, you can't "fix" that, especially with 0 real mod tools

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, what the frick are you talking about? How is it not a complete experience?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick does that even mean? Did you think that sounded clever homosexual?

                don't engage with these morons they get their opinions from memes and influencers

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good point, I shouldn't have taken the bait

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >two bosses, one which was broken for like 3 years
                >shit
                >game ends
                lol

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cyberpsychos. Each with their own gimmick.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bullet sponges using one of the completely bland weapons/augments

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you played the game bro.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's just fishing for (you)s ignore him

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's also a bunch of quest bosses too. Plus the DLC adds a few more big fights and two major bosses depending on what you do.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think you played the game bro.

                >quest bosses
                >npcs that die in one or two hits like the rest of the gang members in the game
                there's not a single memorable quest boss in cyberpunk outside of the main quest

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have a bad memory
                is your skull full of shit?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                lmao

                why would anybody remember the nameless mook they just killed in two shots? the entire point of the quests is grinding xp

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                you played a good game. you remembered none of it.
                you got memed into ruining your experience, good goy

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad cyberpsycho fights are piss easy.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The driving sucks
                you suck, gitgud gay

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The vehicles handle like ass, everything has the turning radius of a box truck, and the slightest bump will frick you over. Ots unironically better to just run/parkour most places.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >tech pistol
                >not a HA-4 grit
                >from bottom of the barrel slaughter-o-matic toy to BIS lizzy successor

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Eat shit you polish Black person.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What "engoodening?" The game has been out for over 4 months and they've done nothing substantive in that time, just bugfixes and optimizations that should have been in the game from the start (and not enough either, they still left in all the digsustingly ugly fog literally everywhere that makes the game washed out and cuts performance by ~20%)

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Almost fewer players than Fallout 76
    Holy frick.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm surprised that 76 was able to keep a group of dedicated whales invested in such a mediocre game.

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, it’s so bad that they cancel making the mod kits bc why bother?

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the main story is "nothing you do matters at all because muh multiverse. wanna New Game+?"
    it's such hack shit that it actively kicks you out of being immersed in the game. not that it bothered to do any really coherent worldbuilding to immerse you in the first place. basically, emil is a lazy hack.

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Player retention only matters for multiplayer games, Starfield has made all it's money already, they won.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I put in 500 hours into it and im waiting for the creation kit and DLC. I want to keep playing though but it feels like if I keep going on I would spoil myself on future content making it better.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you on the spectrum? Genuinely asking.

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield? More like, Starfaild.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a singleplayer game, the DLC is nowhere in sight and the CK for modding isn't even released

      Player retention only matters for multiplayer games, Starfield has made all it's money already, they won.

      >RE4R has more players despite being 3 months older

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cyberpunk came out 4 years ago and still has 3x more players lol

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah but Cyberpunk also had 2.0 update and Expansion drop so that comparison isn't good

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            and Starfield had a full release within 20 days you dip shit, the comparison fits

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh gamepass players!

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >big hype for new IP release
    >got too hyped
    >people wishing it to be a masterpiece so hard
    >games boring because it's not as spectacular as our skyrim nostalgia
    > everyone bashes it

    if they want it to thrive they're gonna have to work like the dev team from NMS and polish it

    and keep polishing it until it's a whole different experience

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not it at all. Starfield is a genuinely bad game. If you only play for five hours or so, you might think the game is really good.
      >loading
      Once you start getting into the game, you soon realize just how repetitive the environments are, how often you are in menus
      >loading
      how absolutely everywhere for everything are the loading screens
      >loading
      how there are no builds, how there is no role playing
      >loading
      how comically simplistic the combat is, how ordinary the weapons are
      >loading
      how mind-numbingly bland exploration is, how often you see the exact same outposts over and over and over
      >loading
      and the loading screens, my goodness

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Skyrim nostalgia

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's 13 years old afterall 🙂

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >skyrim is already legal in my country
          wow

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            i feel like your country is probably known for its sex tourism

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's no polishing it. The engine does not allow for what it needs. Starfield can never be fixed.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        BASED My Summer Car beating out Starfield
        lfmao
        good fricking Job Finland

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they've alienated everyone. They lost the deeplore gays by ruining ES and FO lore, they lost the RPG fans by streamlining and removing all interesting ways to level up, and they lost the casuals because of 76 and the mass coverage it got. The only people left is hardcore fanboys who want to argue more than play, and "day 1 normies" who'll buy whatever gets buzz and then drop it.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bethesda aren't even gonna fix this shit game are they? If nobody is playing it the board meetings must be about moving onto the next project full swing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fix
      its not early access, its finished and complete

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make le NEW title instead of foolproof entry into 2 huge franchises that everyone is invested in and excited about
    damn who could possibly have seen this coming

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Worse?
    It's already pretty close to the limits of how bad a moddable singleplayer RPG/shooter can get as it is, but here's some possible things that COULD decently likely make it worse:
    1. Patches fix the patchable issues in the game, but the playerbase doesn't return.
    2. Content updates hit as an "olive branch" to bring players back, but the players don't return, or the content just sucks, like adding more content to later NG+ cycles.
    3. A deep, DEEP sale hits, but sales are weak, or the Steam reviews take a net loss.
    4. They spend a few months on a major DLC full of tons of content, but the playerbase doesn't care enough to matter.
    5. Creation Kit gets released and it turns out to be amazing, but modders don't care enough to return.
    6. The game gets an update that breaks popular mods, but nobody cares enough to fix them.
    7. Bethesda just outright calls it a loss, doesn't release the CK, doesn't patch or update the game anymore at all.
    8. The engine is so fricked that they can't even use it as a stepping stone for the next game, and have to overhaul it at a great loss of time and money.
    9. Emil remains on the team, or gets a promotion somehow.
    I could see most of these happening, and I feel like most of these are more likely than something good.
    The game's just fricked from top to bottom.
    As far as anyone can tell, they're just riding along lazily and plan nothing until the first expansion hits, but who's gonna buy an expansion for a shit game?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >9. Emil remains on the team, or gets a promotion somehow.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >8. The engine is so fricked that they can't even use it as a stepping stone for the next game, and have to overhaul it at a great loss of time and money.
        This is what I've been asking for since 2011.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          how can that screenshot look more alien than the space game

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3. A deep, DEEP sale hits, but sales are weak,
      This already happened. It was 50% off like 2 months after it released.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the besthesda cycle really.
    The complaints for Starfield is literally the exact same complaints you see for their previous games.
    In 5 years everyone will be proclaiming Starfield to be a classic game and how the new bethesda game is the worst game ever.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one has done that, or is going to do that, anon.
      Nobody is calling FO4 good, no one is calling FO76 a classic, and no one will say Starfield was better than "meh". Also, YWNBW.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's the besthesda cycle really.
        The complaints for Starfield is literally the exact same complaints you see for their previous games.
        In 5 years everyone will be proclaiming Starfield to be a classic game and how the new bethesda game is the worst game ever.

        Nobody was saying that Fallout 4 was complete utter trash, it was just a huge downgrade from 3 that was already a shit show and the story of 4 was the worst one by far, BUT the "gameplay loop" from 4 is mastered and gunplay is finally acceptable, nobody is saying right now that Fallout 4 is great, if they are saying that is thanks to mods and FO76 everyone that played that game for more than 10 hours agree that is a great idea but Bethesda shit design choices screw the game over.

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield killed the Xbox brand and I'm tired pretending it didn't

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield is absolutely BTFO now and in the future.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It would haver performed better if they went for a mASS effect aesthetic, and not modern audience troon one.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I feel like i'd like Liara more if she had this body in game

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me in the back

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love when smut artists give quarians transparent latex instead of just having them go bareskinned.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      from left to right
      >5/10
      >4/10
      >8/10
      >7/10
      >didn't play it
      >9/10

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Hogwarts Legacy 7/10
        >didn't play Cyberpunk
        go back

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cyberpunk is terrible, I'm glad CDPR's entire reputation is ruined

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm glad CDPR's entire reputation is ruined
            It was never ruined among PChads who had the hardware to run it. All the seethe was 100% consolegays.
            >Cyberpunk 2077 92% recent/82% overall
            >Phantom Liberty 89% positive
            Frick off back to 2020 lmao game just won best ongoing game

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              CDPR has been tainted since they sold out for Witcher 2

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >It was never ruined
              Oh yes, CDPR are the largest bullshitters in the industry

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                See you in the Witcher 4/Cyberpunk Orion hype/GOTY threads anon

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                oh yes the pajeet made witcher sequel I can't wait to not play it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Given that you're posting on Gankereddit I assume you don't play games period. You're just some culture war homosexual election tourist.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I don't play games that's why I know CDPR are the biggest liars in the industry

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              phantom liberty really pushed it over the edge. not just songbirds saga but entire dogtown. From improved gigs to the setting itself which is much more believable as a cyberpunk dystopia. high tech spliced with tribal gangbangers+warlord and drugged out bums between them. All within the old corporate HQ ruins. Base night city feels kind of lame compared to dogtown after that tbh. Its like a more futuristic LA where everybody whines how awful their lives are when they are surrounded with cheap energy, cheap calories and cheap entertainment

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fricking subhuman.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, their reputation was ruined, but at least CDPR had some good ideas with Cyberpunk and also had the decency to sit their asses down and fix the game. It was a last minute save for them in my opinion.
              Starfield on the other hand, has dogshit foundations and no matter how bethesda or modders polish it, it wont stop being a turd.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was never a huge fan of them, but I've semi-enjoyed Cyberpunk. It makes me want to look into TW3. However given how they've been marketing themselves, I have now faith that their corporate culture will allow another decent game to come from them. ESG/DEI/"Woke" is a creativity death sentence.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, despite CDPR bending the knee to ESG israelites, I find that Cyberpunk was still an edgy game. Of course it lacks the racial discrimination or any kind of discrimination, but its pretty edgy in a good way. I expected to be more "politically correct", but thankfully I was mistaken.
                Yeah, you should play witcher 3. Dont listen to the contrarians here, its a fun rpg.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can't get over the general themes of the gigs and main story and the GTA-esque delivery of the advertisements that bombard you at all times. It's whiplash-inducing. Like at some point they weren't sure if they were going to be super serial, or really fricking moronic and nobody bothered to go all out and/or clean up the residuals left behind.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its pretty edgy in a good way
                Cyberpunk is the only game that has recaptured the feeling I got from playing VTMB and trying to investigate violent snuff films in Hollywood.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I got huge VTMB vibes from Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Cyberpunk is terrible

            You didn't play it. Cyberpunk is a great game. They fixed the performance issues with the 1.6 patch. Now with the 2.1 patch, the game is just extraordinary. If you played it on a console upon release, yeah, maybe you didn't have a great experience. But on the pc, the game was very good upon release and became great within just a couple of patches.

            I started off thinking I would like so shoot things. By Act 3, I had maxed out Tech, Intelligence, and Body, and I was having tremendous fun combining disciplines, perks, and weapons to take out large groups of enemies. The main story really captured me. Many of the side stories were so well done. The locations were gorgeous and atmospheric. Many of the cutscenes were absolute kino and deeply immersive. Cyberpunk 2077 is one of only a handful of games that I am anxiously looking forward to playing a part two.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I will still shit on it because only a fraction of what CDPR had shown made it into the final game

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >yes, it's a genuinely great game
                >but it was supposed to be extra great
                >therefore, into the trash it goes

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dont think its trash, i just dont want people to forget how CDPR fricked up and lied, what we have now is just what the final build of the game should have been, my biggest problem with cyberpunk wasnt the glitches and performance issues, it was the shoddy foundation it stood on, and it now looks decent after a revamp and 4 years of games much worse than it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Agreed. I'm glad they're still working on it, but the original launch was a mess that deserved every bit of criticism it got, particularly all the cut content.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, but if i reated rpgs by their cut content and missing features i'd hate the entire genre. CDPR deserves shit for marketing tbe game as if it was the next gta but the game as is still had plenty of good stuff even at launch and by now with 2.1 and the dlc it's a great game.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I love how you moronic Black folk are keeping this pink eye tier thread alive trying to claim cyberpunk is a good game, lol

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i cannot into art of conversation

                So, you want to talk about Starfield? Okay.

                What Starfailed does not have --

                no flying or driving
                no bosses
                no memorable environments
                no memorable characters
                no interesting companions
                no memorable missions
                no epic weapons and armor
                no secret or hidden locations
                no combat mechanics
                no role playing in this so-called rpg
                no character builds

                What Starfailed has tons of --

                loading screens

                There are loading screens everywhere, for everything. Want to enter a building? Press E on the door -- loading screen. Want to go to the second floor? Press E on the elevator button -- loading screen. Want to go to another part of the city. Press E on the train -- loading screen. Want to go in your ship? Press E on the ladder -- loading screen. Want to enter the wienerpit? Press E on the chair -- cut scene to hide the loading screen. Want to take off from the surface? That's right -- loading screen. Want to fly to that planet? You guessed it -- loading screen. Want to land? You know it -- loading screen.

                Like all Bethesda Game Studios games, Starfailed is as wide as an ocean but shallow as a puddle by design, designed exclusively for the most casual of casual gamer, ie - the player with very little skill, low attention span, no capacity for abstract thought, no patience for complexity, and very low IQ. BGS knows exactly who their target audience is, that is exactly who they design their games for, and they have increasingly dumbed down their games with every new release in the hopes of expanding that target audience. So far, it's worked. There really is a lot of low-skilled, low-IQ casuals in the world.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              tbf the vanilla combat becomes way too easy at the end of it.Needs a 2x damage multiplier on damage received and given to make it viseral again and maybe some autistic rough combat rebalance overhaul like enemies of night city mod. Base vanilla balance just devolves into bullet sponge V vs paper npcs by the end of it

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              The game was pretty good at release but it had some major problems that dragged the experience down. It just felt really shallow and the illusion of it being a real city was constantly broken by small bugs and design choices. There was just nothing to do outside of the story missions and the character progression was awful. The way to get stronger was by wearing ugly clothes with high armor ratings and exploiting a crafting hack to build the best weapons. It felt wrong for the setting.

              Now, after 2.0 the game feels so much more alive and immersive. You can fully customize your character, implants matter instead of clothes, there are dynamic car chases and gang wars, npcs drive around you and try to avoid threats in a realistic way. There are way more cars, side quests, and mini-games. The only thing still missing from the game is visual implants, such as chromed-out robot arms, and small immersive animations when visiting bars or food vendors instead of tedious item menus.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who was in the wrong here?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Love how an above-average anime gaslit subhuman weebs across the world into thinking this game was actually good.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Legacy 7/10
          core gameplay is fun, but the side activities and the open world is bad. Also I didn't spend money on it.
          >>didn't play Cyberpunk
          I'm waiting for the full release.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >B-but player retention doesn't matter for single player games guys

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    playstation will save them
    or so they think

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it any wonder live service is so appealing to the powers that be, seasonal events, cash shows with new stuff to buy, potential years of additional things they can charge for. A lot of players voted with their wallets and said no more to one and done games.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't see how Bethesda can possibly hope to recover. They are nothing but a burnt out husk of a studio now. You just know TES 6 is going to be shit. Just look at the downward trajectory of that series. Every game since Daggerfall has gotten more dumbed down with every release. I would not at all be surprised if TES 6 has three spells (Ice, Fire, Electric), two classes of hideous armor (light, heavy), three classes of ugly weapons (swords, guns, staves), pointless base building, and fast travel for everything, ie - "Press A to go there now".

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well, people are hoping that they deliver a Fallout 3 Remake/remasster, this will probably save their asses because Fallout shit sells and it will be like 1 month after the release of the new series, which will probably be shit but since gamers always eat shit it will break records.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the plan all along was Todd wanted a space opera war animu with giant mecha he should've funded that from the getgo instead of make that dreary boring-ass game.
    and yes Space Texas had mecha when they fought a war against the UC. They don't have mecha anymore because they made a law against mecha which is apparently a binding contract with the entire cosmos. maybe that's why wild dogs can overrun their pitiful little impoverished fort? Starfield worldbuilding is so slipshod it's ridiculous and it would need something on the level of "we're all inside the belly of the Giant Space Snake that eats stars and nothing makes sense because we're being kept in a stupor while it digest us" to make sense.

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    go woke go broke.

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The thing that ultimately killed Starfield is that the game is so bad that even the most hardcore Bethesda fans quickly grew bored with the game and started to realize just how bad it really is. That made most of those fans simply shut down, but some of them were so pissed off that they went on social media and detailed all the problems with the game. And because those hardcore fans really know their games and the gaming industry, their critiques were extremely insightful and very hard hitting. That made the curious fans just lose all interest. What remained were the Game Pass subscribers who could try out Starfield for free and then uninstall it once they saw what all the negativity was all about. That's why Starfield dead in the water today, five months after its release.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, it had a ton of good ideas. But they either were poorly executed or left halfway done. The writing didn't help either.

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw there's more people playing skyrim than this turd
    bruh

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damage already done, they won.

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was so disappointed by Starfield that I decided to install Oblivion. I haven't played Oblivion in over ten years. The fricking loading screens are ridiculous. That's the problem Bethesda has. They absolutely need a modern game engine. The loading screens are bad in Starfield, but in Oblivion they are ridiculous.

    My Oblivion experience. Leave Weynon Priory. Walk to Chorrol city. Can't enter the city because of big wall surrounding the city with big gate. Press E on the gate -- loading. Walk around the city. Walk up to a house. Press E on the door -- loading. Walk around the first floor of three rooms. Walk up some stairs. Another door. Press E on the door -- loading. Just two small bedrooms. Go back down. Press E on the door -- loading. First floor, press E on the door to exit the house -- loading. Outside are thee tents. One of the tents is closed up. Press E on the tent -- loading. Nothing in here but a bedroll and some assorted junk. Press E on the tent to exit -- loading.

    I mean, seriously, the loading in Oblivion is absolutely ridiculous. If Bethesda hopes to survive beyond Starfield, they must develop or switch to a modern and robust game engine. Yes, of course they will tweak it to make modding easier. They could have done that years ago, but Bethesda is simply trying to squeeze every last drop of profit they can from their crappy old engine. That complacency has really caught up to them with the poor reception of Starfield.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately until someone makes an engine that can be an immersive sim while running NPC’s, scripted events, random shit happening, etc all without loading and separate cells, Bethesda’s the one and only so far.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kingdom Come Deliverance seemed to manage just fine with less time and resources.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh with Oblivion if you've got a machine that isn't 50 years old the loading screen is about as long as a door opening animation

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oblivion was running on machines with 512mb of RAM and less on consoles, the loading screens were needed to make it run. You could mod the cities so that the gates opened and you waked in with no loading screen.

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    1000 handcrafted planets.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      its actually about 20 unique locations and another 5 generic locations tiled in an offset grid

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you could be posting these threads every day of your life like OP

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    H_ _______ ___

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's bethesda so yes it can (and will)

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    STOP THE COUNT YOU BLOODY BASTERD BENCHODE

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >most memorable thing about starfield is ugly black and asian npcs staring at you

    bravo todd

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    He got the last laugh

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This fat pig has nothing to do with starfaild downfall.
      It's shit for many reason but "muh le hecking pronounces" isn't even in top 50 of them.

  53. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry, the snoysistas will get those numbers up. They/them have been dying to play it.

  54. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real world translation: the street shitters in india that were paid to leave the game on with free keys to bump up player numbers were told they're done now.

    Many other game companies involved in this kind of fraudulent activity.

    Kojima cones to mind.

  55. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfailed 76. No one will replay this shit. It's gone.

  56. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we only lost 7% in 2 months
    Todd’s spin.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      wow elden ring collapsed twice as fast

  57. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    no matter how it turns out, TES 6 is gonna be an interesting game.
    In being the result of Bethesda's reaction to their first modern failure.

  58. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw they have pronouns 500 years in the future

    What's interesting is you can tell the game is trash 2 minutes into it. Story is immediately boring, characters are immediately boring, and gameplay is immediately sloggy. Compare that to something like Mass Effect 2's opening, it's insane.

  59. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still playing Fallout.
    Just don't like Space games that aren't Space Operas like Mass Effect.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nothing about this screenshot is recognizably fallout apart from the face and some of the building objects wtf

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Turned my fallout into a somewhat WW2 game. Using the brotherhood as a germany replacer.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >average fallout 4 fan

  60. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game was made to capitalize on star citizen hype.
    >there’s no hype!!!!!!
    660 mil.
    They wanted that money. Wow the same exact audience with previews. Same strat, faster timeline.

  61. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    WHERE'S THE FRICKING CREATION KIT YOU BETHESDA FRICKS

  62. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    have any mods changed the combat to coombat yet

  63. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked fallout 4, wtf is wrong with you guys?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      We have standards, a burden without equal in the current Age of Goyslop

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post your favorite games

  64. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    UNATCO?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, Savage.

  65. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no no no [medical] (she shit in an undesignated street)

  66. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Another failed western game
    Nature is healing

  67. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Can it get any worse?
    Yes, Ganker can continue crying about this game for another fricking year because they are mindbroken over it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well you'll just have to see us being mindbroken over it then, since we are so mindbroken over it, we just can't stop talking about starfield sincw you know, we're so mindbrokenly mindbroken over then game we're mindbroken over, we'll provabky talk about it some more and keep getting mindbroken about it, i think you're mindbreaking me right now my mind is brokening on its own owowowow you're mindbrokening me oh no im mindbroken about starfield and anon mindbroken woe woe is us and our mindbroken minds

  68. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    AND WAY DOWN WE GO

  69. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap plap

  70. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's pretty funny considering proc gen and NewGame+ should increase the game replayability. I guess the game is shit.

  71. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every major game loses 70-90% of its playerbase within 4-6 months. If you don't believe me, look up the player counts for random AAA games yourself and do the math. Yes starfield is shite but it's hardly miraculous that its lost a little more than the average super hyped up game.

  72. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    now that the fake fans moved on to palworld and other related slop emil can provide us with proper kino

  73. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >single player games must retain players now
    Total game """journalist""" death.

  74. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you think coomer mods can save this trainwreck?

  75. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Singleplayer game with finite content losing players?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't help that the game is dogshit

      Do you think coomer mods can save this trainwreck?

      no, modders will never move to it anyway as there's no players

  76. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    All bethesda had to do was make a better space game than Outer Worlds and yet some fricking how they failed to do that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obsidian wins again.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      but outer worlds is unplayable

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's just a 5/10 game with nothing really interesting, nor anything worth getting angry at.
        and yet starfield couldn't even clear that bar. saying outer worlds is better than starfield is not praising the former, but it's still true

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Look at the credits. All Bethesda staff has been repalce by an endless horde of curries that think that toilets are witchcraft.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >think that toilets are witchcraft
        No, it's that witches hide in toilets. There's a difference.

  77. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some people say that Starfield is bad because of procedural generation. I say it's bad because Bethesda didn't do any procedural generation at all.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, the proc gen in Starfield is a fricking embarrassment in complexity and seems chiefly used to populate occupied worlds with the mystery meat abominations featured in

      Couldn’t they do what BG 3 did and have aliens Mocapped by black actors? Even Star Trek has black coded alien races.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Even CP2077's proc-genned randos fared better than this.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much this, they designed like five dungeons and just repeated them over and over. every research station is the exact same down to enemy placement. the procgen part is the infinite amount of planets but there's no real traversal or survival elements so the procgen is just whatever scenario you walk through on your way to one of those five dungeons.
      it's like they eent out of their way to use the worst part of both approaches

  78. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody have that webm of your character picking up the dart after throwing it at the board and the entire space station attacks you because of it?

  79. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It could and it will. As soon as they release whatever dogshit DLC they have planned you'll see a massive influx of morons and shills screaming that the game is totally fixed and great now and Bethesda is so back, just like what happened with Cyberjunk. Screencap this and repost it in a year or however long they take.

  80. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The game is so boring that there isn't even anything to make fun of. It's just "wow, this game has a whole lot of nothing and it's not interesting at all". No funny jank, no funny anything, just a sort-of game that exists and doesn't do much of anything.

  81. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How are the companions in starfield? Are there any like Nick or Danse?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      To put into perspective Fallout 4 is hit or miss for many people but at least the companions and story were somewhat memorable. Not a single companion in Starfield are interesting

  82. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When it releases on PS5 there will be a 500% increase in video essays on why Starfield is shit but the player numbers will stay the same

  83. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need Elder Scrolls substitutes now. ES6 is already dead.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      please respond

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bg3

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      more mods. project tamriel and tamriel rebuilt have put out some interesting stuff, and the modding scene for daggerfall unity is really taking off

  84. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    With Fallout and Elder Scrolls Bethesda were mostly costing off the lore and worldbuilding created by better writers. Starfield was a new unattached IP hyped by Todd Howard as his fricking magnum opus when neither he or Emil had had a decent original idea between them in decades. It was never going to be anything but a failure, especially after the 76 bullshit.

  85. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    A reminder that Nintendo spent less money on 100+ exclusives for the switch than Microsoft did on buying bethesda alone. And they still have to actually pay for the games on top of that.

  86. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >like the game
    >guns look awful and dont reload properly
    >npc look awful
    >ship fights are cool
    >dont give a frick about anyone in game
    >still waiting on mods
    I pirated it btw

  87. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's supposed to be bad. That's what makes it good.

  88. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are we supposed to keep playing the same game forever nowadays?

  89. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good

  90. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone has 8 hours to spare this may be worth listening to while grinding/working out/commuting.

  91. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go Woke Go Broke.
    You love to see it.

  92. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Worse? Starfield failing is a good thing for gaming, and humanity in general

  93. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    This happens with every "big" release. AAA gaymers are just fickle consoomers that are only interested in playing memes of the week for 1-4 hours before they get bored and move on to the next FOTW. This means nothing, only refunds could be a relevant metric.

  94. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield is such a dogshit game. I've tried a few times to give a chance, but after 20 hours -- which is more than it fricking deserves -- I can safely say that nobody should give a flying frick if they port it to PS5.

  95. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chuds buying the game then suddenly not playing it in coordinated discord servers just to make it appear like people don't care.

  96. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really do feel bad for the guys who wanted Starfield to do well

  97. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bethesda actually did it. They managed to create character more reprehensible than Delphine

  98. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes
    >we are moving on to Starfield 2
    >that means no DLC and instead we are focusing on improving and releasing a better CK for Starfield 2
    >release date: TBD
    >we are really sorry, please forgive us? We learn a lot from our mistakes.
    >thanks guys you are all amazing, as a big thanks for all the support you’ve given us over the years we are releasing skyrim for the apple watch
    >now please go and buy it and support us. I need to buy another jacht

  99. 3 months ago
    Seanonymous

    more like EMPTYFIELD!

  100. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't that his
    >biggest project
    ?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
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        Anonymous
  101. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What causes this?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      One is an established IP with continuous mod support, the other is a Fallout clone with new name that somehow has less effective skills.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >those numbers
      The absolute unincorporated shanty town of Bethesda.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What causes this?
      Skyrim's replayability as an extreme weather survival sim, a fantasy rapist adventure, or any of the many complete overhauls of every system in the game.
      This is something Starfield will find impossible to replicate, because not enough coomer-brained autists will stick around to bother attempting all the insane things accomplished by the Skyrim modding scene.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >extreme weather survival sim
        That sounds kinda interesting, any mod recommendations?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think the main overhaul for that is called Frostfall, which requires Campfire. I recall there being bunch of mods compatible with it like for hoods in rain and snow, and one that stops rain and snow from falling under roofs so it makes sense for people to take refuge there, that might have been incorporated into the mod now. It has been years since I last modded Skyrim, to be honest.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but I've been running a hodgepodge list consisting of :
          >Sunhelm
          >Campfire
          >Wonders of Weather
          >Obsidian Weathers
          >Hunterborn
          >Darker Nights
          >Hearth Craft
          >Tentapalooza
          >Dirt and Blood
          One of these mods adds seasonal and temperature changes based on the month. E.g Rain's Hand is peak Scottish weather with 96% rain, 3% overcast and 1% sun. Once it moves into the warmer months you don't need to walk around in three layers of clothing just to stop your balls from freezing off. Frostfall used to be my go to but I found it to be more of a pain in the ass with how strict everything is. The rest of them just adds extra QoL like more tents, the ability to build stuff for your camps and needing to wash every few days so you don't smell like a Smashplayer.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Frostfall used to be my go to but I found it to be more of a pain in the ass with how strict everything is
            I liked combining Frostfall and Requiem. Makes the world brutally harsh at low levels.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        also, skyrim can be played on a toaster

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good point, "buy a better computer" was not a winning strategy.

          as long as the tacticool crowd from fo4 sticks around (which seems to be happening) and I get STALKER in space I'm happy

          I think you're more likely to get a FO4 space travel overhaul than a tacticool Starfield, but time will tell.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        as long as the tacticool crowd from fo4 sticks around (which seems to be happening) and I get STALKER in space I'm happy

  102. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    One billiard of goypass users

    our response?

  103. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact there is a single people that played this shit is the real news here.

  104. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm honestly bewildered how so many cattle gobbled up Starflop. Nothing about it looked interesting, and all the stream of information on it pre-launch was concerning. The gameplay and combat leaks were trash. And Bugthesda's track record has been garbage for an entire fricking decade. If FO4 wasn't your clue, how can 76 not be? Worst of all is how some people still wasted hundreds of hours of their precious time on this piece of shit before 'realizing' that it's a soulless, funless piece of shit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      people are stupid, like really REALLY stupid
      I'm surprised starflop managed to wake up a decent amount

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      because former games ar even more clunky. it looks like an upgrade in comparison. main appeal of these games is the world quests maps etc

  105. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe they made a game of space Draugr dungeons. They copy/pasted so hard that outposts and caves have the exact same items in the exact same spots.

  106. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield is a phenomenal achievement

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Starfield is a phenomenal achievement

        I did actually unsub and block his channel because of this

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          based

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            thanks homie

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Reminder that Gmanlives is the same man that threw a hissy fit over Doom Sigil "being too hard" so therefore "it's bad" according to him and got destroyed by the comment section and ended up deleting the video.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same guy also cried about GTA being too violent on Twitter.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's also the same guy that tried to shill Wolfenstein Youngblood and Fallout 76

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      chadgayging has a 1:1 correlation with mental moronation/low intellect

  107. 3 months ago
    Giovanna jorno

    meanwhile

  108. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  109. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both NMS and Elite: Dangerous demolish Starfield for different reasons

  110. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was an awful game. And let's always remember the reliable game critics claimed they loved it

  111. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Starfield is unironically one of the worst games I've ever played. I pirated it and I still wanted a refund.

  112. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >superbowl has lost 100% of its viewers overnight

  113. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't know brother I'm playing Fallout 3 and having a blast

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fallout 3 is more like Starfield than Fallout 4 is. Remember the hell of navigating those subways, which for reasons of engine limitations were stupidly required to navigate that region. Starfield is a regression to a smaller, less capable game.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i didnt mind is was a storng thematic thing and i liked the idea of interconnected subway because why not. i just navigate everything go out to get the thing on the map so i can fast travel, then go back inside to the next station and so on

  114. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its not fair guys. Skyrim is also shit

  115. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Insisted people liked FO4's formula
    >Made a space faring the future minority white
    >Made all but one character ugly
    Maybe they made enough DEI bribe money.

  116. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bethesda must on SOME level understand that the modding communities are the only thing that has kept their games relevant for so many years, right?
    And yet they clearly hate modders and the idea that people put their free time towards having fun making things for others to enjoy, as a hobby. The relentlessness with which they seek to monetize, and thereby destroy, modding communities has to be either a sign of intense desperation or genuine debased cartoony evil for the sake of making the world a worse place, because it certainly cannot benefit them financially in the long run.

    Look at Starfield, they not only assumed that modders would fix the game for them, but that the community would be willing to wait 1+ year for the creation kit. Now literally every modder who ever turned out something halfway decent for Vegas or Skyrim have left Starfield behind for good and it's completely dead as a franchise. Just as Skyrim and their other games would be without the modding communities keeping them alive.

    I just cannot wrap my head around why they actively want to destroy the biggest gift any developer could ever have gotten.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      AAA game company executives and bean counters all but universally convinced at this point that modding both a potential PR nightmare and a giant sieve by which theoretical DLC and microtransaction profits are lost by the tens of millions.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bethesda also actively try to make paid mods a thing. Creators Club was made from nothing more but malice. They are too lazy to fix their own shit and only want to cash out from solutions made by creative minds.

  117. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can it get any worse?

    Yes.

    Suicide Squad

  118. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    So if you compare Starfield with Suicide Squad, which one is less bad?
    Yeah, it's as low a bar as it can be, I know, I know.

  119. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Playing Starfield is like having depression. Every time you think you're about to enjoy yourself that hope is immediately destroyed by bad design, horrible writing and a total and utter lack of atmosphere and unified aesthetics. It keeps disappointing you over and over and over and makes you feel bad in ways you can't even describe, like a knot in your chest from the guilt and self-loathing from ever having had any expectations to begin with. And once you stop playing you feel worse off for having played it.
    It really is soul-crushingly bad.

    I kept stopping to look at the "artwork" in the game. This one in particular, because once you realize that they took an in-game screenshot of the wild west town and used it as a background for this abomination of a poster, it just starts to make sense why everything else is the way it is.

  120. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Can it get any worse?
    People forgetting this is par for the course with all Bethesda games till it's creation kit comes out?

    Happened to Skyrim and Fallout 4.
    Lost like 90% of it's players till modding tools came out.
    Just goes to show the average Gankertard age these days.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >till it is creation kit comes out
      You are moronic.
      And what is the creation kit going to change, exactly? Modders aren't interested in the game, there's nothing to mod onto. There's absolutely nothing interesting, inspiring or fun on which to expand with mods.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Modders aren't interested in the game
        Anon it's almost in the top 3 modded games on nexus.
        Just because some co-op homosexual who locks his mods behind a patreon wall says he's not making anything doesn't mean everyone else shares the same opinion fricking homosexual.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >m-mods will save it!
          And here we see the dangers of fricking your cousins and drinking your own piss.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Where in my post did I say that you fricking disingenous goalpost moving homosexual.

  121. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we need some absolutely soulless background trash worse than windows clipart to put in every single location
    >SAY NO MORE SIRS I WILL DO THE NEEDFUL

  122. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is even that dlc that was meant to release if your bought the premium edition ever come out ?

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