Being derivative and copying elements isn't grounds for a lawsuit if the end product is legally distinct.
Nintendo fans have a very interesting view on the law given how they cry about emulation being illegal despite being proven that it's legal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
The Better question is, "Is Nintendo making their own Palworld?"
Palworld's 20mil sales is pretty much all the proof in the world that there is a massive market for openworld survival crafting games with collecting mons. Slap a Nintendo seal of approval on "Pokemon Pals" and you have a multi-billion dollar product.
Are you thinking of earth defense force or deep rock, or maybe starship troopers extermination
I think the first helldivers is like top down or something, not sure what the second is, anyway point is nobody has a copyright on killing giant bugs
Because if catching monsters in items and using them to fight was something that could be copyrighted, china would sue nintendo for bastardizing and profiting from their ancient demon sealing myths.
Pump action shotgun replaces pickaxe. You can destroy boulders in a few shots, takes maybe a minute to clear out an area. Just go in with an empty inventory.
I'm just using Mammorest to level the entire node spawns, when I reach the shotgun level I'll try it, seems fun
there are option sliders to mae it more casual friendly, if your complaint is difficulty, turn down the difficulty until it is at your level
Just keep in mind it’s more expensive to repair the pump action than a shitty pickaxe, but the sheer speed improvement for harvesting mining spots is worth it. Might be worth grabbing a few cattivas and lunaris for the extra carry weight just for mining expeditions, too. Passive bases fall off in the endgame when you start needing a shitton more materials, imo shotgun mining is the best way to do it. Don’t fall for the digtoise meme either, he’s broken.
Pump action shotgun replaces pickaxe. You can destroy boulders in a few shots, takes maybe a minute to clear out an area. Just go in with an empty inventory.
Make your ore mining base your ORE MINING base. Get rid of plantations, stone and wood mills, or anything else that could distract your Pals from their jobs besides the ore, your smelters, and your production lines. Use Pals like Killamari, which are only capable of transporting, so they won't try to do anything else. It'll be a bit of a pain to run food and basic materials from a different base at first, but you it'll be worth it.
Unfortunately the base despawns when I get far away and it stops working. I need to stay in that base to work, and if I need to stay in it I'm setting the laziest autofarming possible.
They had three years to do something. They can do nothing. Die mad about it, pokegay. Can’t wait for Pokemon Day to bump Palworld’s numbers when it shows off nothing but slop, kek.
i think Palworld is closer to Digimon in terms of monsters so youd have to make some kind of argument of why specifically you think Nintendo can have any complaints about that, i just dont see how.
The fact that Nintendo hasn't gone after copycats in the past can be used against them in court, as it would be evidence that their motivation is tortious interference i.e. a malicious attempt to block a business from operating rather than defending their copyright. If Nintendo didn't go after clones like Keitai Denju Telefang, they're not gonna go after Palworld.
Because >open-world survival/crafting game where you capture monsters to work and fight for you in a real-time combat system.
is not the same as >open-world adventure RPG where you capture monsters to fight for in a turn-based combat system.
Game is textbook for how to make a game. If people weren't so ignorant of law and afraid of being allowed their copy right we'd have a lot better games.
Because Japanese IP law is different to western IP law. They don't have fair use for example which is why they are so autistic about taking down game streams that don't have permission. But if an IP is changed even slightly then it is ok to use, like changing a single letter in a trademarked name. Even if you use the same colouring and font. Short of the original game assets themselves having been stolen there is nothing Nintendo could do. Nor would they want to open that can of worms around 'looks like' or 'clearly inspired by' because that then opens them up to litigation as well.
>But if an IP is changed even slightly then it is ok to use, like changing a single letter in a trademarked name
This is the same in western law too. Its dependant on the argument on whether a lay person can disambiguate between the two
Japanese law only differs from western IP law in that Japan has a duty to protect authored works clause that offers more protections to authors of trademarked or copyright IPs. This would be advantageous to Nintendo if they felt the need to sue but they haven't pursued a lawsuit at this stage.
>yokai watch barely sold half of what palworld already has >scared gamefreak so badly they cancelled the third version of XY to shit out gen 7, which was full of obvious ripoffs of Yokai Watch
Can’t wait for pokegays to pretend Legends: Crafting Survival is good.
To be fair nothing of value was lost from not getting Z. And I say that as someone who actually liked XY even despite its almost complete lack of a post game.
>yokai watch barely sold half of what palworld already has >scared gamefreak so badly they cancelled the third version of XY to shit out gen 7, which was full of obvious ripoffs of Yokai Watch
Can’t wait for pokegays to pretend Legends: Crafting Survival is good.
Z was canceled because there were real life terrorist attacks going on in France at that time
Is that a cat with yellow eyes? Oh my science! @Lukeskywalker @Marvel @DC @Nintendo @FBI @ATF @JDF @BabyYoda @MarkZuckerberg do something and please sue them right now!
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting and the same visceral reaction that the 'people' you are making fun of give you is equal to the reaction everyone gets of people who 'post' shit like you.
>dude what if she was like, a super horny lizard who rapes you lol and her name is LOVEander and like her pal deck number is 69 xD
This game will never beat Pokemon because it tries way too hard to be edgy and horny. I dont know how can people play this and not be embarrassed. I have removed approximately 5 steam friends who I caught playing this.
Nintendo almost got clapped over Donkey Kong being similar to King Kong, even thou it would be kino if they were Universal in this situation
they only go after fangames and paid mods using their actual ip
It wasn't close. King Kong was public domain and Universal got btfo'd. If it wasn't public domain then Universal themselves would've still been btfo'd because they would've been infringing on the original King Kong novel.
You can't copyright game mechanics.
You can't copyright a visual style. (imagine if the producer of one anime with a generic japanese school student self insert character could sue another lmao)
The game is not in competition with Pokemon for it is in a different genre on a different platform on different hardware, so it is not hurting Nintendo's sales to any legally significant degree.
'Pal' is not trademarked by Nintendo, and Pal did not use any Trademarked names.
Some Pals did look a little close, those got changed before release. If you see a 3d wireframe compared to a Luxray, that's old Boltmane who got a visual overhaul. Same with Astegon.
Nintendo had 3 years to look into this, and have struck down other projects at far earlier stages with less success, so only acting now that Palworld made millions gives Pocketpair an equitable defence.
And if Nintendo did sue them now, it'd be damaging to their brand image, they'd be the big bully company shaking down the little indie heroes that could.
Nintendo has never cared about not looking like tremendously litigious, fun-hating homosexuals. They haven’t sued Palworld because they don’t have a case.
>You can't copyright game mechanics.
You can unfortunately. Remember the Nemesis system from those LotR games are not allowed to be used by any other company without permission.
The legendaries in this game are what legendaries USED to be in pokemon. Slim capture chance and outright blocking your balls if their health isn't low enough. Nowadays pokemon just hands you rare pokemon on a silver platter
I lost all my respect for the game market, 2million players for literally stealing multiple years of community building by nintendo/gamefreak, literally living off of someone elses work, and people love it, people love it because its pokemon on pc, and the law has nothing to say against palword. People just love that it hurts a big company, they support whats toxic just to prove a point. People catch on to the hype train just because streamers say the word, and everyone knows streamers are the elites of this world so their opinion is sacred "a good pokemon game for pc". Everyone who supports this game just told every other company that trying hard is futile. Hard work and talent? Out the window...just copy someone elses work and steal their fanbase, thats the world we live in. Palworld literally sold better than pokemon legends arceus, which is such a beautiful game, made by talented and hard working people of gamefreak, but it doesnt matter. The market demands dull games, and toxic practices for someone to be successful, palworld proved to me that the world is a nasty place and i lost all my will to live, i literally want to off myself because i feel like i live in a cage of monkeys i stopped feeling like a gamer, i havent touched a video game since palworld's release im shaking every night and having suicidal thought and thinking if there's even a point to creativity, people love safe designs, to the point that i feel disconnected, one day they hate that games do microtransations to have money to pay their workers (which isnt alot aswell), and the second they give hunreds of millions to some quick unreal engine 5 game just because it hurts nintendo. Like the main goal of supporting the game is HURTING another company for not making an equal game. Were sadiatic, were easily exploitable, we have patterns, companies have tactics to target out attentions spans better we live in some kind of circus, and i dont know if ill lose my sanity or do something to myself first
tl;dr assblasted brand identity pokehomosexual Black person. can’t wait for you to be raped on ‘pokemon day’ when your obligatory yearly kusoge fails to measure up against palworld in any meaningful way kek
Jews.
>sued the shit out of palworld
For?
Stop playing dumb
The charges, officer?
Maybe you should take meds. Nintendo haven't sued PocketPair
>can't answer a question
Just answer the question so we can refute you already, homosexual. Quit stalling.
Stop playing dumb
>t.pokegay
Being derivative and copying elements isn't grounds for a lawsuit if the end product is legally distinct.
Nintendo fans have a very interesting view on the law given how they cry about emulation being illegal despite being proven that it's legal in the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
Making a better game.
isnt helldivers a copy of that other shooting game
The Better question is, "Is Nintendo making their own Palworld?"
Palworld's 20mil sales is pretty much all the proof in the world that there is a massive market for openworld survival crafting games with collecting mons. Slap a Nintendo seal of approval on "Pokemon Pals" and you have a multi-billion dollar product.
It won't sell 20 million on the switch.
It would if it ran on switch. The latest Pokemon game sold over $26M
switch off
They should be, but even with the best idea in the world it wouldn't matter if Gamefreak was making it and it was limited to being on the Switch.
>Palworld's 20mil sales
Players. 12 million sales. Most of those at $15.
Nintendo is content releasing 4 million sellers at $60
who
>The Better question is, "Is Nintendo making their own Palworld?"
No, they're probably just trying to get a port.
honestly I don't think they'd let it on switch both out of pride and the switch barely being able to run it
They've promoted plenty of fire emblem and animal crossing ripoffs in their directs
None of those did palworld numbers though. The way nintendo is they probably wouldn't risk a direct competitor overshadowing them
Are you thinking of earth defense force or deep rock, or maybe starship troopers extermination
I think the first helldivers is like top down or something, not sure what the second is, anyway point is nobody has a copyright on killing giant bugs
They were already humiliated in gameplay, animations and monster design terms. They don't want to be humiliated in court on top.
Because they can't, simple as that.
palworld has nothing to do with nintendo why would they sue them
the more copies are sold, the more money Nintendo can collect from them.
Microsoft's israeli layers got palworld covered , Nintendo can now online suck wiener
The biggest cope imaginable.
They'd love to, but any case with even a 20% chance of a loss will never see the light of day.
Because if catching monsters in items and using them to fight was something that could be copyrighted, china would sue nintendo for bastardizing and profiting from their ancient demon sealing myths.
Stop making Palworld threads Zoomie.
why would they?
pokeshit has been a rotten corpse for years already
this thread seems more crowded despite 95% of the posters being Ganker autists that don't play games but I'm going to ask anyways:
I need mass ore gathering tips. Passive bases and having to carry the weight of the world after each node is extremely boring.
there are option sliders to mae it more casual friendly, if your complaint is difficulty, turn down the difficulty until it is at your level
make more boxes idiot, use the grappling gun
>grappling gun
oh yeah that thing.
I'm just using Mammorest to level the entire node spawns, when I reach the shotgun level I'll try it, seems fun
this has nothing to do with difficulty
Just keep in mind it’s more expensive to repair the pump action than a shitty pickaxe, but the sheer speed improvement for harvesting mining spots is worth it. Might be worth grabbing a few cattivas and lunaris for the extra carry weight just for mining expeditions, too. Passive bases fall off in the endgame when you start needing a shitton more materials, imo shotgun mining is the best way to do it. Don’t fall for the digtoise meme either, he’s broken.
>Don’t fall for the digtoise meme either, he’s broken.
welp, too late, I already used it and moved on from it.
Pump action shotgun replaces pickaxe. You can destroy boulders in a few shots, takes maybe a minute to clear out an area. Just go in with an empty inventory.
>Not a personally summoned digtoise with the special mining skill at your designated ore/coal mining base
Why do the work yourself?
Make your ore mining base your ORE MINING base. Get rid of plantations, stone and wood mills, or anything else that could distract your Pals from their jobs besides the ore, your smelters, and your production lines. Use Pals like Killamari, which are only capable of transporting, so they won't try to do anything else. It'll be a bit of a pain to run food and basic materials from a different base at first, but you it'll be worth it.
Unfortunately the base despawns when I get far away and it stops working. I need to stay in that base to work, and if I need to stay in it I'm setting the laziest autofarming possible.
Why don't you just got to /palg/ on /vg/?
They had three years to do something. They can do nothing. Die mad about it, pokegay. Can’t wait for Pokemon Day to bump Palworld’s numbers when it shows off nothing but slop, kek.
i think Palworld is closer to Digimon in terms of monsters so youd have to make some kind of argument of why specifically you think Nintendo can have any complaints about that, i just dont see how.
microsoft unironically
The fact that Nintendo hasn't gone after copycats in the past can be used against them in court, as it would be evidence that their motivation is tortious interference i.e. a malicious attempt to block a business from operating rather than defending their copyright. If Nintendo didn't go after clones like Keitai Denju Telefang, they're not gonna go after Palworld.
it can also be used against them the fact that they straight out copied Slapstick/Robotrek from Red Entertainment
No, kys, moron.
Because
>open-world survival/crafting game where you capture monsters to work and fight for you in a real-time combat system.
is not the same as
>open-world adventure RPG where you capture monsters to fight for in a turn-based combat system.
Why would nintendo sue an ark clone?
Game is textbook for how to make a game. If people weren't so ignorant of law and afraid of being allowed their copy right we'd have a lot better games.
I'm so glad a game came along to put Nintendo in its place.
Why can't Paltards make threads to discuss the game instead of posting moronic bait?
Is there really nothing to talk about after just 3 weeks?
Because Japanese IP law is different to western IP law. They don't have fair use for example which is why they are so autistic about taking down game streams that don't have permission. But if an IP is changed even slightly then it is ok to use, like changing a single letter in a trademarked name. Even if you use the same colouring and font. Short of the original game assets themselves having been stolen there is nothing Nintendo could do. Nor would they want to open that can of worms around 'looks like' or 'clearly inspired by' because that then opens them up to litigation as well.
>But if an IP is changed even slightly then it is ok to use, like changing a single letter in a trademarked name
This is the same in western law too. Its dependant on the argument on whether a lay person can disambiguate between the two
Japanese law only differs from western IP law in that Japan has a duty to protect authored works clause that offers more protections to authors of trademarked or copyright IPs. This would be advantageous to Nintendo if they felt the need to sue but they haven't pursued a lawsuit at this stage.
>yokai watch barely sold half of what palworld already has
>scared gamefreak so badly they cancelled the third version of XY to shit out gen 7, which was full of obvious ripoffs of Yokai Watch
Can’t wait for pokegays to pretend Legends: Crafting Survival is good.
To be fair nothing of value was lost from not getting Z. And I say that as someone who actually liked XY even despite its almost complete lack of a post game.
Z was canceled because there were real life terrorist attacks going on in France at that time
No anon, Z was cancelled because GF was focused in their stupid "project gear" and focused all their resources on it.
two more weeks...
two more weeks...
NOOOOO SOMEONE PROTECT POKEMON! BRAND IS MY IDENTITY I’LL KILL MYSELF IF PALWORLD STEALS ANY MORE SALES
Is that a cat with yellow eyes? Oh my science! @Lukeskywalker @Marvel @DC @Nintendo @FBI @ATF @JDF @BabyYoda @MarkZuckerberg do something and please sue them right now!
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting and the same visceral reaction that the 'people' you are making fun of give you is equal to the reaction everyone gets of people who 'post' shit like you.
>dude what if she was like, a super horny lizard who rapes you lol and her name is LOVEander and like her pal deck number is 69 xD
This game will never beat Pokemon because it tries way too hard to be edgy and horny. I dont know how can people play this and not be embarrassed. I have removed approximately 5 steam friends who I caught playing this.
Those friends are laughing at you
isnt this the business model of chinese gambling games?
You sound like a terrible friend and I’m sure those ‘friends’ didn’t even notice you were even there
Reminder that Loveander was not originally Pal 69, they changed it on a twitter suggestion
Nintendo almost got clapped over Donkey Kong being similar to King Kong, even thou it would be kino if they were Universal in this situation
they only go after fangames and paid mods using their actual ip
It wasn't close. King Kong was public domain and Universal got btfo'd. If it wasn't public domain then Universal themselves would've still been btfo'd because they would've been infringing on the original King Kong novel.
they don't want to do anything unless they have an absolute slam dunk case, because if they sue and lose they're going to be in trouble
the only thing Nintendo can beat is their fans LMAO
You can't copyright game mechanics.
You can't copyright a visual style. (imagine if the producer of one anime with a generic japanese school student self insert character could sue another lmao)
The game is not in competition with Pokemon for it is in a different genre on a different platform on different hardware, so it is not hurting Nintendo's sales to any legally significant degree.
'Pal' is not trademarked by Nintendo, and Pal did not use any Trademarked names.
Some Pals did look a little close, those got changed before release. If you see a 3d wireframe compared to a Luxray, that's old Boltmane who got a visual overhaul. Same with Astegon.
Nintendo had 3 years to look into this, and have struck down other projects at far earlier stages with less success, so only acting now that Palworld made millions gives Pocketpair an equitable defence.
And if Nintendo did sue them now, it'd be damaging to their brand image, they'd be the big bully company shaking down the little indie heroes that could.
Nintendo has never cared about not looking like tremendously litigious, fun-hating homosexuals. They haven’t sued Palworld because they don’t have a case.
>You can't copyright game mechanics.
You can unfortunately. Remember the Nemesis system from those LotR games are not allowed to be used by any other company without permission.
That's a patent, not a copyright
cause it's a different game are you a moron?
The legendaries in this game are what legendaries USED to be in pokemon. Slim capture chance and outright blocking your balls if their health isn't low enough. Nowadays pokemon just hands you rare pokemon on a silver platter
Imagine how bad the optics would be if they lost
Gamefreak isn't capable of a quality product on their own. their next gen would need at bare minimum to be a joint effort between EPD and monolith
That Nintendo in general. Look what happen to Animal Crossing.
Gen 2 Pals have a good chance to be based one COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, something gen purple starfish delux pokemon dont even try to do
You're asking the wrong questions.
Don't you think if they could they would have weeks ago?
Why are you defending a multibillion corporation anyway?
OFFICER, ARREST THIS MAN
HE IS MAKING A BETTER GAME THAN ME AND I WILL NOT STAND FOR THIS!!!
Satire
why are tendies so schizos?
Brand identity autism. Pokemania destroyed the white man.
Jesus frick, the cringe
On what grounds?
I lost all my respect for the game market, 2million players for literally stealing multiple years of community building by nintendo/gamefreak, literally living off of someone elses work, and people love it, people love it because its pokemon on pc, and the law has nothing to say against palword. People just love that it hurts a big company, they support whats toxic just to prove a point. People catch on to the hype train just because streamers say the word, and everyone knows streamers are the elites of this world so their opinion is sacred "a good pokemon game for pc". Everyone who supports this game just told every other company that trying hard is futile. Hard work and talent? Out the window...just copy someone elses work and steal their fanbase, thats the world we live in. Palworld literally sold better than pokemon legends arceus, which is such a beautiful game, made by talented and hard working people of gamefreak, but it doesnt matter. The market demands dull games, and toxic practices for someone to be successful, palworld proved to me that the world is a nasty place and i lost all my will to live, i literally want to off myself because i feel like i live in a cage of monkeys i stopped feeling like a gamer, i havent touched a video game since palworld's release im shaking every night and having suicidal thought and thinking if there's even a point to creativity, people love safe designs, to the point that i feel disconnected, one day they hate that games do microtransations to have money to pay their workers (which isnt alot aswell), and the second they give hunreds of millions to some quick unreal engine 5 game just because it hurts nintendo. Like the main goal of supporting the game is HURTING another company for not making an equal game. Were sadiatic, were easily exploitable, we have patterns, companies have tactics to target out attentions spans better we live in some kind of circus, and i dont know if ill lose my sanity or do something to myself first
tl;dr assblasted brand identity pokehomosexual Black person. can’t wait for you to be raped on ‘pokemon day’ when your obligatory yearly kusoge fails to measure up against palworld in any meaningful way kek
>19 million +
ayyy i love that thread too
IP law doesn't work off "vibes."