I know you are, you seem exactly the type of person who watches influencers on YouTube all day long and absorbs their opinions. That's not even the funniest part of the game but of course you have to repeat the meme. Frick you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's a meme because it's ridiculous but in an endearing way. It has nothing to do with "influencers." The only version of the game that I've played was the SNES fan translated ROM 20 years ago. You know it's ridiculous, too, and you're being contrarian by pretending it isn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>it's ridiculous
No it's not.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's dumb and silly. It's only a good plot twist if you're 9 years old which you probably are. That's what I like about the game, though, along with the job system so I don't see why so many of you autists ITT are chimping out at me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The job system sucks
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you only played it for it's deep story or are you just here to argue with me because you want attention? I thought the game suffered from a poor fan translation but judging from the pixel remaster it wasn't. Butz > Bartz though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So you only played it for it's deep story
I've only beaten FFV once and that was when I was trying to beat all of them
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's dumb and silly
No it's not. Play the game and you'll see it's perfectly consistent and predictable, hardly a plot twist.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Play the game and you'll see it's perfectly consistent and predictable, hardly a plot twist.
The game presents it like it's supposed to surprise the player, autismo. Exdeath talking about how it was the perfect plan was funny.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What a manchild.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You're the one getting mad over a 30 year old game because I find aspects of the story silly.
>not sure why this post caused so much seething
As a MMO, FF14 is bad. You can't do anything with your friends because everything is locked behind a 400 hour long singleplayer story, half of which is cutscenes of people standing around and talking. The other half is walking to the next npc to talk to, bursting down quest mobs within seconds, or doing a solo duty. Very rarely you will do a dungeon and have an opportunity to play with your friends. Once you have finally slogged through the story and made it to endgame, there is scarcely little to do. You do an Alliance raid once for the spectacle and that's that. There is no progressing through it like in WoW. For the 8 man raids and trials, there are only 4 raid bosses and maybe 1 or 2 trial bosses that are current (compare that to WoW where each raid tier brings at least a dozen fights). That's the extent of raid content. What's left? The joke of the PvP system? Grinding on hours in Bozja or Eureka for sparkly JPEG weapons?
It is also a subscription MMO with awful business practices. Bank slots locked behind heightened subscription fees. Raid boss mounts locked behind the cash shop. Hrothgar have to pay money to change their hairstyle. Cash shop items are per character, not account wide, so frick you if you want to have alts (which have to go through the entire 400 hour long story all over again...). Despite being responsible for keeping Square Enix afloat and the game being marketed as a AAA production, the vast majority of the game's cutscenes and dialogue are unvoiced, while ESO, GW2, and WoW, and other JRPGs have been fully voiced for years. Not to mention the awful housing system that is laughable compared to the competition, among numerous other issues.
As a singleplayer JRPG, FFXIV is a mixed bag. Moving crates, playing messengers, and other tedious chores isn't an exciting high fantasy adventure that Final Fantasy players want. The main cast are insufferably bland cardboard cutouts. There are no stakes; nothing bad is ever allowed to happen to the protagonists (don't bring up that Roe lady who showed up for 5 minutes and then died from ARR). World wars and apocalypses happen and no cities are wiped out or conquered, no main characters killed. The big bad spent an entire expansion lounging around on a chair doing nothing. Don't forget the burning trashfire that is Endwalker's story.
There are genuinely good moments here and there in FFXIV's story, but I cannot in good conscience recommend slogging through a 400 hour long story just for that. If you want an awesome JRPG, there are dozens of other JRPGs that will give you much more bang for your buck within the 20-60 hour range. You'd have to burn through them first and still be really desperate for something for me to recommend touching FF14. That, or you want to play it because it's popular ATM so you can get in on the conversation.
As a singleplayer JRPG, FFXIV is a mixed bag. Moving crates, playing messengers, and other tedious chores isn't an exciting high fantasy adventure that Final Fantasy players want. The main cast are insufferably bland cardboard cutouts. There are no stakes; nothing bad is ever allowed to happen to the protagonists (don't bring up that Roe lady who showed up for 5 minutes and then died from ARR). World wars and apocalypses happen and no cities are wiped out or conquered, no main characters killed. The big bad spent an entire expansion lounging around on a chair doing nothing. Don't forget the burning trashfire that is Endwalker's story.
There are genuinely good moments here and there in FFXIV's story, but I cannot in good conscience recommend slogging through a 400 hour long story just for that. If you want an awesome JRPG, there are dozens of other JRPGs that will give you much more bang for your buck within the 20-60 hour range. You'd have to burn through them first and still be really desperate for something for me to recommend touching FF14. That, or you want to play it because it's popular ATM so you can get in on the conversation.
Don't bother. If somebody likes FF14, they lack the mental capacity to read your posts.
As a singleplayer JRPG, FFXIV is a mixed bag. Moving crates, playing messengers, and other tedious chores isn't an exciting high fantasy adventure that Final Fantasy players want. The main cast are insufferably bland cardboard cutouts. There are no stakes; nothing bad is ever allowed to happen to the protagonists (don't bring up that Roe lady who showed up for 5 minutes and then died from ARR). World wars and apocalypses happen and no cities are wiped out or conquered, no main characters killed. The big bad spent an entire expansion lounging around on a chair doing nothing. Don't forget the burning trashfire that is Endwalker's story.
There are genuinely good moments here and there in FFXIV's story, but I cannot in good conscience recommend slogging through a 400 hour long story just for that. If you want an awesome JRPG, there are dozens of other JRPGs that will give you much more bang for your buck within the 20-60 hour range. You'd have to burn through them first and still be really desperate for something for me to recommend touching FF14. That, or you want to play it because it's popular ATM so you can get in on the conversation.
so the argument is that it doesn't fit your preconceived expectations about what an MMORPG should be?
>the vast majority of the game's cutscenes and dialogue are unvoiced
Your entire argument is null and void for b***hing about something so stupid and obviously pointless. Means I can't trust literally any other point you tried to make here
Probably upset at the "MMO" part which means they have to buy the game monthly once they get past HW.
XIV's barely an MMO anyway, barely an RPG.
>not sure why this post caused so much seething
As a MMO, FF14 is bad. You can't do anything with your friends because everything is locked behind a 400 hour long singleplayer story, half of which is cutscenes of people standing around and talking. The other half is walking to the next NPC to talk to, bursting down quest mobs within seconds, or doing a solo duty. Very rarely you will do a dungeon and have an opportunity to play with your friends. Once you have finally slogged through the story and made it to endgame, there is scarcely little to do. You do an Alliance raid once for the spectacle and that's that. There is no progressing through it like in WoW. For the 8 man raids and trials, there are only 4 raid bosses and maybe 1 or 2 trial bosses that are current (compare that to WoW where each raid tier brings at least a dozen fights). That's the extent of raid content. What's left? The joke of the PvP system? Grinding on hours in Bozja or Eureka for sparkly JPEG weapons?
It is also a subscription MMO with awful business practices. Bank slots locked behind heightened subscription fees. Raid boss mounts locked behind the cash shop. Hrothgar have to pay money to change their hairstyle. Cash shop items are per character, not account wide, so frick you if you want to have alts (which have to go through the entire 400 hour long story all over again...). Despite being responsible for keeping Square Enix afloat and the game being marketed as a AAA production, the vast majority of the game's cutscenes and dialogue are unvoiced, while ESO, GW2, and WoW, and other JRPGs have been fully voiced for years. Not to mention the awful housing system that is laughable compared to the competition, among numerous other issues.
1/2
>play meme furgay race >get furgay taxed when you want to change your appearance
sounds fair to me (^:
What debate? This isn't Ganker, you don't need to use a bait post.
But if you're asking, I would personally rank them like this:
5 > 3 > 7 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 8
Only sticking with the non-MMO mainline and only to titles I've played. This should go without saying, but none of the games are perfect, and some outclass each other in various ways
7 by a decent margin. it has the best balance of characters, music, plot, combat, pacing and exploration and does an excellent job in all of those areas.
It would be great if it wasn't an all female party forced on you. Know plenty of people who wouldn't touch the game because it was too feminist, too creepy, too light of a tone, or a combination of all 3.
Very solid gameplay with a shitload of missable content.
Why does 2 have such a bad reputation here?
It has: >stealth missions to sabotage the enemy's supply chain >a flying fortress that protects itself by creating a tornado >an empire that doesn't just go away simply because the emperor died >the evil emperor comes back from the dead after taking over hell
No because at the end of the day it's a matter of opinion. That being said anyone who says 5 or 8 is usually a shit head IRL so you can safely ignore them
>I've seen some batshit mental gymnastics on this site but that's pretty up there.
Both have obnoxious fanbases that hate and shit on every other FF game.
Go play your hamster wheel mobile game tier glorified chat rooms. You don't belong here. Your opinions have zero value. You represent the worst this site has to offer.
Let's settle this then, homosexual Fantasy is a dogshit franchise for the unwashed, lowest IQ, weaboo consumer. They're all irredeemable garbage. Square Enix should be gassed with sarin.
Only played a few of them. Loved 5. Fricking HATED 7. 6 was slow so I put it down but I plan on giving it another chance at some point. Haven’t played anything after VII. Which ones are worth checking out.
>Loved 5 >Which ones are worth checking out.
being the job system sperg that you are, just tactics. don't bother playing the others.
If he was a job system sperg he probably wouldn't have hated 7 since it's just the job system but a bit more granular and with learning detached from individual characters and onto materia.
but the job spergs don't like how materia is free-form. they need pre-configured and fixed sets of skills. the fact that you can put cure and steal materia on the same character makes them flip their shit.
That's a valid criticism but still FF7 offers more than the typical game for people who like flexible character builds.
The real problem with FF7 is just that it's not balanced very well across the whole game, with some being really powerful (Enemy Skill) while otherwise being rather stingy with materia slots and stat modification for most of the game.
>perfected the skill/job system with materia >allowed you to do stuff so cool/broken it was never put back in (4x cut, final attack->KOTR) >balanced so well mastering materia is fun and worthwhile >exceptionally creative characters >unique story >EXTRA characters (2) and hidden materia >intimidating bosses >genre-redefining music >best graphics out at the time; beyond expectation >Tifa is a Z cup
I rest my case
Most of the criticism for VII comes from the garbo spinoffs like Advent Children
Actually good taste. Only nitpick would be raising XI and lowering X-2.
Go play your hamster wheel mobile game tier glorified chat rooms. You don't belong here. Your opinions have zero value. You represent the worst this site has to offer.
Yes, bad games and crappy people like you get filtered by me.
If you put FF14 that high you don't even know what an RPG is.
5>6>7>4>3 (with balance mods it is abt as good as 4) >10>9>8>1>2
never played any ff past X
really all of them are great games except 2 can be pretty rough at points.
The PSX ports of 1 & 2 are the best imo. 4 and 3 remakes are also great but ig they’re not really mainline. 4 remake on DS might be one of my fav JRPGs in general.
really would check out final fantasy 3 maeson (a romhack) if you have never been able to get into the famicom/nes era ff games. it makes the game almost rival dq3 as best 8bit jrpg imo.
Beat VI for the first time as my first FF game, now playing VII. I'm very surprised they're not just generic fantasy shit about crystals, for some reason I had this assumption my whole life. Maybe it's due to my initial low expectations, but these games are incredible, I guess all the hate I saw comes from people who were familiar with them all this time and just hating the thing after all the sequels or spinoffs or whatever, or just for the sheer popularity of it (VII). Feels good to just enjoy shit for once.
FFV was the last of the games with the classic 4 elemental crystals that maintain the world as a core story element, but 6 and 7 sort of retain that spirit with the Magicite and Materia
The FF games are mostly pretty easy but FFV is a bit harder than 6 and the job system is mechanically a lot more interesting than Magicite, at least it takes more thought and effort to break the game than 6's Twincast 1MP Ultima spam
If you liked 6 you could also try the T-Edition hack which rebalances the game, ups the difficulty and adds some new content, there's also the Brave New World hack which changes the Esper system entirely so only certain characters can equip certain Espers but it also increases the difficulty by a lot
FFV is not more difficult than FFVI. The only "difficult" fight in FF6 are the tentacles in World of Ruin if you didn't level Sabin or Edgar. Meanwhile the only "difficult" fight in FF5 is omega weapon which is kind of designed to be cheesed with thunder spells.
FF5 combat system is broken just as easily as FF6, by combining a few OP job skills.
FFVI is easier than V. Not like it's a big difference but even though you can break both games, FFV at least you have to know the weak points. FFVI you have to handicap yourself on purpose to generate challenge. The final boss uses single target elemental magic, for frick's sake, in a game that dumps multiple element-absorbing armor in your lap.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In both games I absolutely destroyed the final boss.
And no, the hardest fight in ff6 WoR by far is the storm dragon on mt zozo. At least, not counting gimmick fights that can be annoying like magimaster and wrexsoul.
The optional dragon when you fetch Cyan? Depends when you go there. The difficulty of all the dragons just depend on your play order, really. It was just another dragon to me.
The tentacles were the most difficult to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>In both games I absolutely destroyed the final boss.
Anecdotes.
I've never found the tentacle boss challenging even when deliberately trying to keep levels low. They have very low damage output you just have to be patient and pay attention to the resistances. >Depends when you go there.
Well no fricking shit. Everything depends. Even the tentacle boss (which is easy to beat even with 2 characters at level 20) is totally trivial if you grind a little.
I'm saying that objectively, Storm Dragon is the strongest boss in the game in terms of pure power. He's the highest level Dragon by far (at 74, he's higher level even than the bosses in Kefka's tower including Kefka himself). He has a simple but aggressive script with a mix of strong physical attacks and full-party AoEs, including a non-elemental one (Rage) and an instant-critical (Cyclonic). If you can beat Storm Dragon, you can easily beat anything else that doesn't have a gimmick requiring a particular setup (like MagiMaster).
Plus the game trolls you into fighting Storm first with that bird that flies to Zozo after you recover the Falcon. Meanwhile if you don't know to immediately raid Narshe, the Ice Dragon will always be a pushover by the time you get there.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Well no fricking shit
Right, obvious, isn't it? So why are you claiming a completely optional boss is the most difficult when you can beat it at any point of the game? It's far more reasonable to call a boss that may level-trap you more dangerous, one you are forced to fight. I consider this common sense so you really shouldn't say "no fricking shit" when you need to be told these obvious things. It makes you sound like a douchebag.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The highest level doesn't mean the most difficult. He is very basic and dies in a few turns. Gg.
And if you don't level, your characters may actually be around 12~ at the start of WoR. Here you talk about level 20.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In other words you have to tie your hand behind your back to see any kind of challenge in FFVI. OP loot is everywhere, xp flows easily, stats are busted, and enemies are easy. FFV at least makes you work for it. XP is harder to come by, OP abilities are more obscure stuff that you wouldn't expect like mix and gptoss. And the game isn't littered with high end gear that makes you immune to major damage categories, including abilities used by the final boss.
2 years ago
Anonymous
FFV has a rare as frick drop that is as worst as FF12
2 years ago
Anonymous
Both FFV and FFVI are easy in the same way, with a tiny amount of encounters that require some thought. All Final Fantasy games are easy in general. There's no reason to even differentiate them when any possible differences are so slim.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>All Final Fantasy games are easy in general
some easier than others with 15 being the easiest due to being able to use items at 0 HP
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Both FFV and FFVI are easy in the same way
Sure but FFVI is easier if you're going to bother to try to compare them. If the difference doesn't matter to you personally then don't bother trying to make arguments about it. You just wind up saying moronic things.
And no, the hardest fight in ff6 WoR by far is the storm dragon on mt zozo. At least, not counting gimmick fights that can be annoying like magimaster and wrexsoul.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the hardest fight in ff6 WoR by far is the storm dragon on mt zozo.
you're right, but that fight is not mandatory and most people will avoid after 1 game over. the tentacles are the first forced fight that will rape you if you are not ready.
Oh, the V gays are out in force again. Recently finished it and I don't see what's so good about this game? It has some of the worst characters and by far the worst story of any FF I've played, which is really not a good look considering how low the bar is in this franchise. Is it really just job system autism? Is that all you have? It isn't bad, but you gays are overselling it way too hard. It's nowhere near enough to salvage this dumpsterfire of a game. Also: >You want to quickly change skills on a character? Uhm, sweaty? I don't think so. I'm gonna UNEQUIP all your stuff now. Also, you're not allowed to run without a certain class/skill. You WILL play THIEF and you WILL like it.
Seizure inducing gameplay. Frick FF5 and everyone who sucks it off.
Stranger of Paradise
I genuinely don’t know if I want to invest any time into this. Seems like it’s basically Nioh Fantasy. Is that a good thing or what?
I don't think it actually plays like Nioh despite being the engine. More straightforward button mashing action RPG. I think it is good.
3/10 but if they let me make my own character instead of playing as their MGR wannabe "ironic" shit character it would be a 10/10.
5 has fun gameplay and a hilarious story with a plot twist that no one expected
I'm voting 5
>plot twist that no one expected
which was?
You have to play the game to find out
You never played the game.
I'm making a joke about exdeath turning into a splinter, autismo. It's so dumb that it's funny.
I know you are, you seem exactly the type of person who watches influencers on YouTube all day long and absorbs their opinions. That's not even the funniest part of the game but of course you have to repeat the meme. Frick you.
It's a meme because it's ridiculous but in an endearing way. It has nothing to do with "influencers." The only version of the game that I've played was the SNES fan translated ROM 20 years ago. You know it's ridiculous, too, and you're being contrarian by pretending it isn't.
>it's ridiculous
No it's not.
It's dumb and silly. It's only a good plot twist if you're 9 years old which you probably are. That's what I like about the game, though, along with the job system so I don't see why so many of you autists ITT are chimping out at me.
The job system sucks
So you only played it for it's deep story or are you just here to argue with me because you want attention? I thought the game suffered from a poor fan translation but judging from the pixel remaster it wasn't. Butz > Bartz though.
>So you only played it for it's deep story
I've only beaten FFV once and that was when I was trying to beat all of them
>It's dumb and silly
No it's not. Play the game and you'll see it's perfectly consistent and predictable, hardly a plot twist.
>Play the game and you'll see it's perfectly consistent and predictable, hardly a plot twist.
The game presents it like it's supposed to surprise the player, autismo. Exdeath talking about how it was the perfect plan was funny.
What a manchild.
You're the one getting mad over a 30 year old game because I find aspects of the story silly.
>hilarious story
seriously?
It's funny in a so bad it's good way. It doesn't take itself too seriously like FF 6+.
Agreed
5, no contest
Tactics
basado
1 is the best NES game
5 is the best SNES game
VII is the best PS1 game
X is the best PS2 game
There are no good entries after that.
X and x-2 if we’re talking 3D
4 and 6 if we’re talking 2D
2 if you’re a fricking psychopath like me
Go frick yourself
3 > 1
6 > 5
9 > 7
>There are no good entries after that.
12 is good. 14 is incredible.
Your opinions are bad. Most posts itt are bad.
mmo's are all terrible by default
Quality sub-based MMOs are objectively good because they filter out poorgays and underage brainlets like (You)
12 is on the PS2, I didn't say it wasn't good.
14 is an MMO, and as the other reply said, it's inherently bad.
>14 is incredible
What a fricking idiot. Holy shit some people are stupid here. Disgusting degenerate.
Worst opinion on /vrpg/ history
>dead thread only gets revived every time somebody wants to seethe about FFXIV again
Why bother?
>Worst opinion on /vrpg/ history
liking shit games like FFXV or Breath of Fire Dragon Quarter is the "Worst opinion on /vrpg/ history"
Die XIEVEBlack folk trash game.
Nice reposted screenshot lmao.
Seethe.
So you are incapable of formulating a rebuttal to his argument. Go back to Ganker
>14 is incredible.
gay
not sure why this post caused so much seething
has this board succumbed to shallow contrarianism?
They're butthurt that someone likes an MMO I guess. I suppose they lack friends to play them with
>not sure why this post caused so much seething
As a MMO, FF14 is bad. You can't do anything with your friends because everything is locked behind a 400 hour long singleplayer story, half of which is cutscenes of people standing around and talking. The other half is walking to the next npc to talk to, bursting down quest mobs within seconds, or doing a solo duty. Very rarely you will do a dungeon and have an opportunity to play with your friends. Once you have finally slogged through the story and made it to endgame, there is scarcely little to do. You do an Alliance raid once for the spectacle and that's that. There is no progressing through it like in WoW. For the 8 man raids and trials, there are only 4 raid bosses and maybe 1 or 2 trial bosses that are current (compare that to WoW where each raid tier brings at least a dozen fights). That's the extent of raid content. What's left? The joke of the PvP system? Grinding on hours in Bozja or Eureka for sparkly JPEG weapons?
It is also a subscription MMO with awful business practices. Bank slots locked behind heightened subscription fees. Raid boss mounts locked behind the cash shop. Hrothgar have to pay money to change their hairstyle. Cash shop items are per character, not account wide, so frick you if you want to have alts (which have to go through the entire 400 hour long story all over again...). Despite being responsible for keeping Square Enix afloat and the game being marketed as a AAA production, the vast majority of the game's cutscenes and dialogue are unvoiced, while ESO, GW2, and WoW, and other JRPGs have been fully voiced for years. Not to mention the awful housing system that is laughable compared to the competition, among numerous other issues.
1/2
2/2
As a singleplayer JRPG, FFXIV is a mixed bag. Moving crates, playing messengers, and other tedious chores isn't an exciting high fantasy adventure that Final Fantasy players want. The main cast are insufferably bland cardboard cutouts. There are no stakes; nothing bad is ever allowed to happen to the protagonists (don't bring up that Roe lady who showed up for 5 minutes and then died from ARR). World wars and apocalypses happen and no cities are wiped out or conquered, no main characters killed. The big bad spent an entire expansion lounging around on a chair doing nothing. Don't forget the burning trashfire that is Endwalker's story.
There are genuinely good moments here and there in FFXIV's story, but I cannot in good conscience recommend slogging through a 400 hour long story just for that. If you want an awesome JRPG, there are dozens of other JRPGs that will give you much more bang for your buck within the 20-60 hour range. You'd have to burn through them first and still be really desperate for something for me to recommend touching FF14. That, or you want to play it because it's popular ATM so you can get in on the conversation.
Don't bother. If somebody likes FF14, they lack the mental capacity to read your posts.
so the argument is that it doesn't fit your preconceived expectations about what an MMORPG should be?
You're too stupid to read, that's why you play WoW clones and run around telling them they are best JRPGs. Fricking idiot.
>ad hominem
I accept your concession
>the vast majority of the game's cutscenes and dialogue are unvoiced
Your entire argument is null and void for b***hing about something so stupid and obviously pointless. Means I can't trust literally any other point you tried to make here
>has this board succumbed to shallow contrarianism?
You new here?
Probably upset at the "MMO" part which means they have to buy the game monthly once they get past HW.
XIV's barely an MMO anyway, barely an RPG.
>play meme furgay race
>get furgay taxed when you want to change your appearance
sounds fair to me (^:
It's a trash game that gets memed because of Uchikoshi as the writer.
The one you played the most when you were an impressionable teenager.
What debate? This isn't Ganker, you don't need to use a bait post.
But if you're asking, I would personally rank them like this:
5 > 3 > 7 > 6 > 1 > 4 > 8
Only sticking with the non-MMO mainline and only to titles I've played. This should go without saying, but none of the games are perfect, and some outclass each other in various ways
Where does Chrono Trigger fit into the rankings?
Better than FF6 but not as good as FF7
>OMG FF7 THE BESTEST GAME EVER1!!!11
>Which is the best?
your favorite
FFV, FFVII, FFIX, FFXII
Ds3 #1
Demons souls remastered #2
Demons souls ps3 #3
BloodBorne #4
Ds1 #5
Ds1 remastered #6
Elden ring #7
Dark souls 2 #8
Sekiro doesn’t count you fricking casual
7 by a decent margin. it has the best balance of characters, music, plot, combat, pacing and exploration and does an excellent job in all of those areas.
>plot
>combat
>pacing
>exploration
all terrible in 7
>exploration
>in a JRPG
what do you think this is, skyrim? all JRPGs have shit exploration. it's not a sandbox game.
Binary brain
IV DS version, next question.
VI, VII and IX
after that
IV, V, XII
then X and the rest
I like V VII X the most. I can't decide which one is better outta the 3.
X-2
I genuinely love this game.
It would be great if it wasn't an all female party forced on you. Know plenty of people who wouldn't touch the game because it was too feminist, too creepy, too light of a tone, or a combination of all 3.
Very solid gameplay with a shitload of missable content.
>Can we end this debate once and for all?
No.
>Which is the best?
There is no answer.
You're just starting a thread that will be full of shitposts.
Nothing comes close to VII.
But, I am willing to give participation trophies to 6, 8, 9, and 10.
Why does 2 have such a bad reputation here?
It has:
>stealth missions to sabotage the enemy's supply chain
>a flying fortress that protects itself by creating a tornado
>an empire that doesn't just go away simply because the emperor died
>the evil emperor comes back from the dead after taking over hell
*everything refers to the original console versions, NOT ports, remasters or remakes
Story: 7 >= 9
Storytelling: 10 > 7
Characters: 6 >= 9 > 7
Villain: 6 = 7 > 10
Best guys: 9
Best girls: 10
Battlesystem: 10-2 > 7 > 9
Limit breaks: 7
Music: 7 >= 8 > 1
Optional content: 9
Dungeons: 12 > 9
Overworld: 4 = 7 = 9
Vehicles: 7 > 4 > 9
Minigames: 7 > 9
FMVs: 8 = 10
Battle models: 7
Regular models: 9
Weapon designs: 7
Env/Background graphics: 9 > 7 > 12
UI: 9
Overall graphics: 12
Ending (happy): 9 > 4
Ending (bittersweet): 9 > 10
Ending (tragic): 7
Ending (lmao): 13 > 15
You shouldn't even pretend to include the snes games it's clear your standards and experiences are entirely formed by 7 and later.
10 obviously
No because at the end of the day it's a matter of opinion. That being said anyone who says 5 or 8 is usually a shit head IRL so you can safely ignore them
>lumping 5 in with 8
I've seen some batshit mental gymnastics on this site but that's pretty up there.
Filtered.
>I've seen some batshit mental gymnastics on this site but that's pretty up there.
Both have obnoxious fanbases that hate and shit on every other FF game.
Go play your hamster wheel mobile game tier glorified chat rooms. You don't belong here. Your opinions have zero value. You represent the worst this site has to offer.
filtered
Yes, bad games and crappy people like you get filtered by me.
Let's settle this then, homosexual Fantasy is a dogshit franchise for the unwashed, lowest IQ, weaboo consumer. They're all irredeemable garbage. Square Enix should be gassed with sarin.
What a bold and original take...you're so cool and unlike those SHEEPLE, anon.
You type like the mongrel you are. You know I am right and your pathetic attempts to spite me are laughable.
I'm actually just making fun of you
>mongrel
lmao someone is overcompensating for their own lacklusterness
Ah, so you have a bit of a troony in you too. Another reason why you should have a nice day.
Only played a few of them. Loved 5. Fricking HATED 7. 6 was slow so I put it down but I plan on giving it another chance at some point. Haven’t played anything after VII. Which ones are worth checking out.
>Loved 5
>Which ones are worth checking out.
being the job system sperg that you are, just tactics. don't bother playing the others.
It was a step in the right direction as far as an actual rpg system goes. Tactics is basically tactic ogre but worse.
If he was a job system sperg he probably wouldn't have hated 7 since it's just the job system but a bit more granular and with learning detached from individual characters and onto materia.
but the job spergs don't like how materia is free-form. they need pre-configured and fixed sets of skills. the fact that you can put cure and steal materia on the same character makes them flip their shit.
That's a valid criticism but still FF7 offers more than the typical game for people who like flexible character builds.
The real problem with FF7 is just that it's not balanced very well across the whole game, with some being really powerful (Enemy Skill) while otherwise being rather stingy with materia slots and stat modification for most of the game.
No one still figured out the max stats in this game
Zoom zoom fricking zoomer.
xii
VII
>perfected the skill/job system with materia
>allowed you to do stuff so cool/broken it was never put back in (4x cut, final attack->KOTR)
>balanced so well mastering materia is fun and worthwhile
>exceptionally creative characters
>unique story
>EXTRA characters (2) and hidden materia
>intimidating bosses
>genre-redefining music
>best graphics out at the time; beyond expectation
>Tifa is a Z cup
I rest my case
Most of the criticism for VII comes from the garbo spinoffs like Advent Children
it's 13
source:my ass
reason:because you all hate it
Based. I support XIII just to spite the others
I admit the soundtrack is easily top 5 of the entire series
I don't like it. It's too gay to me, and by gay I mean it sounds like dance music for homosexual males.
my personal ranking
If you put FF14 that high you don't even know what an RPG is.
FF16 will be FF14
FF14 is Final Fantasy Online 2
5 is too high but otherwise it's okay I guess
Actually good taste. Only nitpick would be raising XI and lowering X-2.
>still seething this hard
Get a job.
If you had a job or education, you wouldn't be playing games for social outcast pedos.
keep coping poorgay.
7
if you want to separate 2D and 3D titles, then 6 and 7 tied
my personal favourite is 14
Breath of fire 3. Don't @ me.
V and LR are the only ones worth touching. Otherwise just move on to a better JRPG series by Square.
5>6>7>4>3 (with balance mods it is abt as good as 4) >10>9>8>1>2
never played any ff past X
really all of them are great games except 2 can be pretty rough at points.
The PSX ports of 1 & 2 are the best imo. 4 and 3 remakes are also great but ig they’re not really mainline. 4 remake on DS might be one of my fav JRPGs in general.
really would check out final fantasy 3 maeson (a romhack) if you have never been able to get into the famicom/nes era ff games. it makes the game almost rival dq3 as best 8bit jrpg imo.
>10 and 8 below 3 and 3
What a meme opinion
6 has Sabin my big muscular hunky blond boyfriend so 6 is the best
Beat VI for the first time as my first FF game, now playing VII. I'm very surprised they're not just generic fantasy shit about crystals, for some reason I had this assumption my whole life. Maybe it's due to my initial low expectations, but these games are incredible, I guess all the hate I saw comes from people who were familiar with them all this time and just hating the thing after all the sequels or spinoffs or whatever, or just for the sheer popularity of it (VII). Feels good to just enjoy shit for once.
FFV was the last of the games with the classic 4 elemental crystals that maintain the world as a core story element, but 6 and 7 sort of retain that spirit with the Magicite and Materia
>FFV
Is that what I need to play if I want more of the FF combat? Because VI was too easy to break and make super trivial.
The FF games are mostly pretty easy but FFV is a bit harder than 6 and the job system is mechanically a lot more interesting than Magicite, at least it takes more thought and effort to break the game than 6's Twincast 1MP Ultima spam
If you liked 6 you could also try the T-Edition hack which rebalances the game, ups the difficulty and adds some new content, there's also the Brave New World hack which changes the Esper system entirely so only certain characters can equip certain Espers but it also increases the difficulty by a lot
FFV is not more difficult than FFVI. The only "difficult" fight in FF6 are the tentacles in World of Ruin if you didn't level Sabin or Edgar. Meanwhile the only "difficult" fight in FF5 is omega weapon which is kind of designed to be cheesed with thunder spells.
FF5 combat system is broken just as easily as FF6, by combining a few OP job skills.
In fact the tentacle boss is harder because by the point you reach Omega Weapon, you have or at least are supposed to have the tools to cheese him.
FFVI is easier than V. Not like it's a big difference but even though you can break both games, FFV at least you have to know the weak points. FFVI you have to handicap yourself on purpose to generate challenge. The final boss uses single target elemental magic, for frick's sake, in a game that dumps multiple element-absorbing armor in your lap.
In both games I absolutely destroyed the final boss.
The optional dragon when you fetch Cyan? Depends when you go there. The difficulty of all the dragons just depend on your play order, really. It was just another dragon to me.
The tentacles were the most difficult to me.
>In both games I absolutely destroyed the final boss.
Anecdotes.
I've never found the tentacle boss challenging even when deliberately trying to keep levels low. They have very low damage output you just have to be patient and pay attention to the resistances.
>Depends when you go there.
Well no fricking shit. Everything depends. Even the tentacle boss (which is easy to beat even with 2 characters at level 20) is totally trivial if you grind a little.
I'm saying that objectively, Storm Dragon is the strongest boss in the game in terms of pure power. He's the highest level Dragon by far (at 74, he's higher level even than the bosses in Kefka's tower including Kefka himself). He has a simple but aggressive script with a mix of strong physical attacks and full-party AoEs, including a non-elemental one (Rage) and an instant-critical (Cyclonic). If you can beat Storm Dragon, you can easily beat anything else that doesn't have a gimmick requiring a particular setup (like MagiMaster).
Plus the game trolls you into fighting Storm first with that bird that flies to Zozo after you recover the Falcon. Meanwhile if you don't know to immediately raid Narshe, the Ice Dragon will always be a pushover by the time you get there.
>Well no fricking shit
Right, obvious, isn't it? So why are you claiming a completely optional boss is the most difficult when you can beat it at any point of the game? It's far more reasonable to call a boss that may level-trap you more dangerous, one you are forced to fight. I consider this common sense so you really shouldn't say "no fricking shit" when you need to be told these obvious things. It makes you sound like a douchebag.
The highest level doesn't mean the most difficult. He is very basic and dies in a few turns. Gg.
And if you don't level, your characters may actually be around 12~ at the start of WoR. Here you talk about level 20.
In other words you have to tie your hand behind your back to see any kind of challenge in FFVI. OP loot is everywhere, xp flows easily, stats are busted, and enemies are easy. FFV at least makes you work for it. XP is harder to come by, OP abilities are more obscure stuff that you wouldn't expect like mix and gptoss. And the game isn't littered with high end gear that makes you immune to major damage categories, including abilities used by the final boss.
FFV has a rare as frick drop that is as worst as FF12
Both FFV and FFVI are easy in the same way, with a tiny amount of encounters that require some thought. All Final Fantasy games are easy in general. There's no reason to even differentiate them when any possible differences are so slim.
>All Final Fantasy games are easy in general
some easier than others with 15 being the easiest due to being able to use items at 0 HP
>Both FFV and FFVI are easy in the same way
Sure but FFVI is easier if you're going to bother to try to compare them. If the difference doesn't matter to you personally then don't bother trying to make arguments about it. You just wind up saying moronic things.
And no, the hardest fight in ff6 WoR by far is the storm dragon on mt zozo. At least, not counting gimmick fights that can be annoying like magimaster and wrexsoul.
>the hardest fight in ff6 WoR by far is the storm dragon on mt zozo.
you're right, but that fight is not mandatory and most people will avoid after 1 game over. the tentacles are the first forced fight that will rape you if you are not ready.
XIV gays are the Gundam Unicorn and P5 morons of Final Fantasy
and yet better people than XV fans and SEED fans
I only say facts. You say opinions because you're a dirty XIEVEBlack person GBkun.
>he ran
Oh, the V gays are out in force again. Recently finished it and I don't see what's so good about this game? It has some of the worst characters and by far the worst story of any FF I've played, which is really not a good look considering how low the bar is in this franchise. Is it really just job system autism? Is that all you have? It isn't bad, but you gays are overselling it way too hard. It's nowhere near enough to salvage this dumpsterfire of a game. Also:
>You want to quickly change skills on a character? Uhm, sweaty? I don't think so. I'm gonna UNEQUIP all your stuff now. Also, you're not allowed to run without a certain class/skill. You WILL play THIEF and you WILL like it.
Seizure inducing gameplay. Frick FF5 and everyone who sucks it off.
Oh. The XIVBlack folk are out getting filtered again.
FFX and FFXII
FF1
Final Fantasy X was the first Final Fantasy that I played all the way through. It's still my favorite. It's the best.
1. FFX
2. FFIX
3. FFVIII
I don't like the gameplay of the newer games and couldn't get into the older game, with the exceptions of FFI & FFVII.
VI, VIIII / IX and XII
I also liked II and IIII / IV