Can you name an RPG that has enough variety and replayablity for at least several playthroughs to feel vastly different?
I'm not just talking about what weapons/equipment/classes you can use.
Branching routes that completely change what locations you visit and what party members you have.
Maybe your starting options change enough for each playthrough to feel different.
Or maybe the game has a lot of randomly generated variables that impact each playthrough.
I'm not asking for an ultimate game, just want to know what game felt like that for you.
Saga comes to mind.
I did 3 playthroughs of scarlet grace back to back
when I replay most of my favorite games I add extra restrictions, and that changes the routes/characters/builds I use. The amount of replayability I get out of a game depends mostly on how much I like it, rather than relying on random variables, branching routes and role playing.
I'll give you a couple of recommendations I think might scratch your itch, although tbh there are not many RPGs out there that completely change depending on the route/playthrough, but there will be variation with these.
>Starting with Warpigs
Tyranny: Can side with multiple other factions early on that will change the feel of the game going forward.
Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2: You can download mods that give you completely new campaigns, also plenty of official scenarios.
KOTOR 1 and 2: Light or Dark side. You'll get an alignment exclusive companion and a gender exclusive one in KOTOR 2.
MB Warband: How you decide to plan your rise to power is completely up to you. Marauding, becoming a Lord, becoming a kingmaker, just invading a city without pledging allegiance to anyone, it's up to you. The game supports mods that completely overhaul the setting and mechanics(feudal japan, rome, fantasy, vikings), so you can fundamentally change the game in many ways.
Alpha Protocol: Game is kinojank. It most likely has the most reactivity ever done in an RPG, but the game is pure jank. If you can get past it, you will see just how much story reactivity this game has. There are so many choice combos that the endings cannot be all named.
The Witcher 2 is like Alpha Protocol to an extent but with not nearly as much reactivity. Still very much in the same vein.
PoE 2 and Pathfinder: WoTR kinda have this? The games will give you reactivity depending on what faction/mythic path you choose, but it won't completely change the game.
VTmB might be a applicable to an extent, maybe more so if you use the clan quest mod?
You could also try rouge likes
>Jarpigs
Fire Emblem Three Houses: Every route has a different cast of characters who are your students that you teach. Every route is different and all routes need to be played to get the full picture of the story.
Shin Megami Tensei might also work for you, specifically the Devil Survivor spin offs. Different routes depending on alignment.
Fate/EXTRA let's you pick between 3 servants to play through the game with. Also let's you pick between 2 waifus, so you have 6 different routes if you don't account the MCs gender.
Drakengard and Nier have different routes and endings, but these more so work as extensions to previous routes and endings, each building on the previous events of the endings.
I'm sure there will be some more anons that will add more recs, there are a few more I wanted to recommend but I am blanking out rn. Hope it helped OP.
Growlanser 4 has two distinctly different routes and one route that's a somewhat modified version of another. The opening chapter before the route split is a bit of a pain though.
>Fire Emblem Three Houses: Every route has a different cast of characters who are your students that you teach. Every route is different and all routes need to be played to get the full picture of the story.
Except that every route reuses the same maps and each time you play through it you need to do the first half of the game again which is almost identical regardless of which house you go with and is a massive fricking slog on repeat playthroughs as a result.
>Except that every route reuses the same maps and each time you play through it you need to do the first half of the game again which is almost identical regardless of which house you go with and is a massive fricking slog on repeat playthroughs as a result.
True, but that's just how it is with JRPGs. Most JRPGs are a slog to play through after the first run. Assuming OP cares about the different characters and maybe trying new tactics in the next run, it should hold him over if he plays NG+ in short bursts.
>Most JRPGs are a slog to play through after the first run.
There's a reason nearly all my favorite JRPGs were made before 1995.
Based anon. Thoughts on Valkyrie Profile? Came out on 1999.
I haven't played everything, especially not on Playstation. That game I've always wanted to give a shot ever since seeing the graphics, but never got around to it yet.
You unironically deserve to be shot for recommending Three Houses. Frick you.
Who hurt you and why anon? I'll be the first to admit it's pretty mid waifuhomosexualry, but wtf set you off specifically? I seriously recommend taking your meds and crawling back under whatever rock you crawled out from.
Anon, it's mainly pissed off Fire Emblem boomers who pretend that the older games were tactical and anything but mid. OP wanted a game that changes party members depending on the route, and 3H is undoubtedly that.
>a game that changes party members depending on the route and 3H is undoubtedly that
Yeah, but at that point you might as well include Octocuck Travesty, and I hated that game.
>Octocuck Travesty
Lmao. I haven't played Octopath so I don't even know if the game is good.
I did, or at least it's more recent sequel. Accidently softlocked myself right before Chapter 2, and was too bored out of my mind to continue from a previous save, so I dropped it altogether. The shield break mechanic is admittedly fun at first, but Squeenix doesn't do anything fun and interesting with it, so it gets stale far too quickly for my tastes.
Not only are your recommendations moronic, but so are you for spelling rogue as rouge.
Then by all means, enlighten us with your superior recommendations, your majesty.
Great game if you ever decide to pick it up. Some of the most creative combat I've seen in a JRPG imo.
kotor has basically zero interesting exclusive content
fire emblem 3 houses is terrible choice, there are not enough units for real diversity and the stupid intermap segments that you pretty much have to do to develop your units are just tedious time wasting chores on replay
it is actually the worst fire emblem game for replayability outside of the story
needs both honestly
>kotor has basically zero interesting exclusive content
KOTOR 1 yeah, KOTOR 2 def warrants a replay or two though
>fire emblem 3 houses is terrible choice
Is it mid, absolutely. Repetitive? Yep. Bad map design? Of course(along with every other FE game.) Is it still within the same vein that OP asked for? It is. Like I said previously, there is not too many RPG experiences like OP wants, besides maybe some sandbox titles here and there.
What kind of fricking time do you have on your hands to regularly replay huge-ass games like RPGs? Or do you not have a backlog or something?
I still have at least 50 years left to live
Same-ish, but that's not a lot, all things considered. Especially if you take wageslaving into account.
It's not about being "contractually obligated" to play something, it's about wanting to experience (and beat) a number of games. I suppose it's not that big a deal if you miss some of them, but replaying games always makes me feel like I should be playing something "new" instead.
If anything, from what I've seen, zoomers are way less prone to backlogging than us millennials.
>if you take wageslaving into account.
LOL LMAO EVEN
Not all of us here are NEETs, unfortunately.
I don't have a "backlog", I'm not contractually obligated to play anything.
>backlog zoomer
Kys
Baldur's Gate 3 homie.
In general you're kind of describing every D&D crpg from the 2000's.
Pokemon or any monster catching game really
If you're into action rpg:
The entire Deus Ex series
Modded Skyrim
Dark Souls
Monster hunter
>Can you name an RPG that has enough variety and replayablity for at least several playthroughs to feel vastly different?
You realize roguelikes are rpgs right
Witcher 2.
>Branching routes that completely change what locations you visit and what party members you have.
>Maybe your starting options change enough for each playthrough to feel different.
SaGa is what you're looking for.
>Or maybe the game has a lot of randomly generated variables that impact each playthrough.
Roguelikes (not Lites) are what you're looking for.
The Age of Decadence or sandbox games like DF, M&B, Kenshi, etc.
You're gonna need to check out sandbox RPGs for that kinda shit. Most recent one I've played that has potential is Matchless Kungfu. Every NPC is random each game, you build the world the way you want it large tile by tile by either buying them at a ship or completing objectives in an existing area. The cool thing is the npcs that come with these new tiles are fully independent with their own objectives and over time they will build and expand across the map doing their own thing.
You can play the game however the frick you want, you can ignore the kung fu shit and just larp as some business tycoon, or be a thief, a beggar, a thug, or start your own sect and train your followers and take over territory, fight other sects etc. You can also have a family lineage and pass on techniques to your descendents etc. It's still early access but it has the depth of stat and technique autism that I found sorely missing from Kenshi.
No fricking way the chinks just made a trve RPG, it's funded by the CPC/CCP too.
I know its sad its taken this long and had to come from China, the game is pretty rough but it ticks all the basic boxes of what I've been looking for in a sandbox rpg.
For Skyrim, Wildlander modpack is by far the easiest way to make the game more of a real rpg. It uses requiem, frostfall, alternate starts and a few hundred other mods all curated to work together. It has an in depth magic research system where you can find and study artifacts, practice magic, write spells and figure things out yourself. It's totally viable to be some weirdo that lives in a dungeon for years and through research learns all sorts of OP shit before ever engaging in combat.
Kiseki games dev anon.
definitely Devil Survivor
Alicesoft world conquest games:
Obviously 2 Rance games
Daiakuji
Daibanchou
Daiteikoku
All have multiple routes and new game+
Porn games are absolute dogshit. Suffering through the same mechanically mind numbing gameplay several times to see a different CG is moronic.
You didn't play a single one of those games moron
Hentai there is just to attract nip coomers to them
Jfc the Rance one are something. Theres so many shit that could happen, and its just one game. Also, I really enjoy the combat in it, for some reason. Kichiko Rance, not so much. Dunno, it seemed boring in terms of gameplay, Sengoku one is 10 out of 10 tho. Eh, beside the "autoleveling" maybe
(I skip the h-scenes)
anons will say they are good despite being porn games. Which is like saying they're the best in the special Olympics
Once again did you play even one of those games moronic samegay?
Good replayability isn't from variaty it comes from a good solid experience that's worth playing again
Bethesda games are like that for me. I regularly replay them all. I try out different playstyles and restrictions. Maybe do one of the questlines, then end the character's story, and start something new. Avoiding all kinds of minmaxing and metagaming, and just enjoying roleplaying in the world.
Previous playthrough was Oblivion, where I visited the cities, and looked for the best houses to rob. Waited until the sun went down and owners to sleep. Took my time exploring and looking for something worth a couple of drakes. Sold all the crap, and spent the profits on alcohol and a bed at a roadside inn.
Assuming your a modgay, give me your TOP total conversion mods. I played literally everything translated for fallout 2.
Alpha Protocol.
The only time replay is worth is for nostalgia or if there's whole new characters, maps and story in the branching path, mechanically only never is worth
>first playthrough I killed enemies with a hammer
>second playthrough I killed enemies with magic
Never just that would be enough to replay RPGs, principally when RPGs tend to be long games
Stop replaying games. Replay value is a meme with how oversaturated the video game industry has become. Move onto the next good RPG. Just make sure to enjoy yourself along the way. If that means slow down a bit and don’t rush, then so be it.
Definitely true. Don't become one of those nolifers with 5k hours on Skyrim. Play games at a fun pace and make sure they are enjoyable. If you find one that you want to come back to every now and then, great. Just don't spend a gorrilion hours on it.
>oversaturated the video game industry
This is never a good thing
I would rather play stuff i like(sometimes new) than to swim thru garbage sea of rpgs I don't like because i might miss a good one
If you have a backlog or any physical list of games you want to play then just kys
If you're an autist, those edgy shit pokefan games might be up your ally. Mind you, they are all shit.
>If u like games, kys
>On a game board.
Lol. Lmao even.
>If u like games, kys
You don't have to keep some cringe hipster "do before death" list to enjoy games
Just play whatever you like whenever you like
>If you have a backlog or any physical list of games you want to play then just kys
That's a moronic take, what if that list is all games that I like, or mostly sure that I will like?
Keep them in your head like everyone did before yidtube retro ecels made your "backlog" a thing
that's still a backlog
in order to have no backlog you must only buy games as they come out, and if two games come out on the same day you have to choose one to play and one to never ever touch
>buy
>You have to
>It counts as...
I just play games
If i am finished with game i search for another one
Games you want to play is just games you want to play
There is no obligation, list or anything attached to that
>Oh damn i still haven't finished "gay ocean the last thrust!" Into the asslog it goes!
Just kys
>Games you want to play is just games you want to play
Yes, that's what a backlog is, you fricking mongrel.
>Sorry chud but you have to use our yidtube newspeech!
>In fact you're already doing so!
Nope
Thanks for your input but proceed to your designated voluntary* euthanasia pod
>backlog
>"yidtube newspeech"
>Starts appearing with all retro gayming channels going popular around 2020
>Uhhhh ACKSHUALLY THE WORD IS 4000 year old!
Fit in to board culture that spent first year only posting rean meme? Good lord no
Or Gankeredditor one? With only interest for soulslike trash and fotm?
Ganker culture where everyone pretends to be oldgays like you?
My desire is simple just frick off with your new words and enjoy your "hidden gems" all you want without bothering my eyes
>I'm an expert on youtube channels and streamers
Not helping your cause, zoomie. People have been using "backlog" before video games existed and I've never watched a single "retro gayming" video nor care about them.
>Uhhhh ACKSHUALLY THE WORD IS 4000 year old!
Heh
Show me one post on any forum before 2014 that uses that "old" word then
Ok you win
I didn't think you would bother to search for it
We accept your concession, zoomer. Now go back to whatever shithole you crawled out from, (you) don't belong here.
Man you're really salty
How about you just play games from your assblock instead of larping as tryhard oldgay?
NTA, but have you considered not being new?
>zoomie trying this hard to fit
Cute.
>Don't replay good games
>Just CONSOOM the next piece of trash because...BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD THING OKAY???
I'd rather keep playing Nethack for the rest of my life than having to wade through seasonal gutter trash like Owlcat and Larian's offerings
Kind of remind me that I still have to beat DCSS, I probably have fricking 100 hours in that but didn't manage yet.
Anyway I totally see myself replaying BG3 at least another time, but I guess the plot would get in the way of being a game you can actually replay once in a while "forever", like your typical roguelike.
Just swallow your pride and roll a MiBe. That's what I eventually did. Worked like a charm.
Video games aren't the western cannon bro. You don't get IQ points for being a completionist.
In retrospect this game is kinda ass but I had a fricking blast in those 100 hours it took to jump the raccoon guy.
Part 2 was near-unplayable levels of shit though
Kek, basically true, albeit if the waifus are also shit, then NOBODY will buy your shitty slop, no matter what you do.
that's Rance, it's basically the opposite. They made a game with anime girl and tried to slap a gameplay in there
The Age of Decadence
M&B Warband:Prophesy of Pendor
Frick me I want to replay Rance X but I already got the true ending which took me like 300+ hours
I don't think any game will ever top X. It's insane how they managed to finish a 30-year-long series like that.
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RW-aSmj2hU