capcom accused of DCMA people who mod their games in youtube

capcom accused of DCMA people who mod their games in youtube

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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      unironically what is causing this? who even wins here and how?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going to assume the American branch got one of those "ethics" departments opened recently and this is the result.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          jews and women, two most vocal groups when it comes to something ""offensive""

          When the answer to who is behind x thing is not clear, the default is always israel.

          japan is hardcore about copyright, morons, you go to jail for piracy there, every jp twitter artist would throw a fit if you redeem any of their drawings

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        jews and women, two most vocal groups when it comes to something ""offensive""

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >jews and women
          Men let this happen moron

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >jews arent men
            That's very antisemitic of you.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        When the answer to who is behind x thing is not clear, the default is always israel.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought Capcom's doing all this because of one idiot who forgot to turn off his nude chun-li mod while streaming a tournament?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're talking about a flash point in the build-up to a war. The reasons already existed that just got the ball running.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They had their ethics department before that which led to censoring Mikas ass slap.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what is causing this?
        the typical suspects
        >~~*ESG*~~/~~*inclusive capitalism*~~)
        >boomer investors
        >leftoids
        >bankers and other israelites

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >causes the thotoids to seethe at the ethics department while corporate kicks their asses into maximum overdrive due to one little nipslip
        Now that's what I call democracy manifest. All because of one succulent chinese meal.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Game devs that are very protective of their IP dislike mods because it can confuse idiots

        >idiots confuse modded gameplay for vanilla gameplay
        >idiots incorrectly install mods or find that the mod has bugs and for one reason or another go to the game developer for help instead of the mod developer

        And of course there's the debate of mods being used in multiplayer games. While a majority of multiplayer mods are made with good intentions, there are mods out there that act as borderline cheats
        >mod that makes all player models very distinguishable so that the player can more easily spot enemy players
        >mod that shows normally hidden game mechanics and stats
        >mods that act as macros

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          There's more wiggle room in multiplayer games for devs to hit modders than singleplayer since those mods can actively damage the play experience of other customers. That's usually why none of the online mod makers ever win.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        This specifically is just Japan being moronic about copyright. It's nothing new under the sun.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another one to add to always pirate list.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw me and the homies modding a game

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mod a game
      >cause untold destruction and devastation to the Public Order and Morals

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >offensive to public order and morals
      >meanwhile at crapcum:

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      he cute

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      mods are stealing correct

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >catched

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      why are they so based?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        steal food and music

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        imagine the burrow collapses during a mosh pit and kills it's entire family.
        Sounds like a protaganist plot line in the making if I do say so myself.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Watership Down with groundhogs

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous
  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    japs are fricking moronic

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, because your country surely isn't moronic, at all
      i don't even need to know where you're from to know why you're a fricking moron
      americans, canadians, mexicans, europeans, britbongs, south america, it doesn't fricking matter

      unless you're like swiss or norwegian, the exact same can be said for you

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. butthurt jap

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          kys gaijin

          you will never be japanese

          Butthurt americans, canadians, mexicans, europeans, britbongs, south americans confirmed

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        kys gaijin

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        you will never be japanese

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        More than one thing can be moronic at a time, anon, and in different ways at that.

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese devs hate modding, this is true. Look at FF14 vs WoW

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, frick making your entire game rely upon mods to function

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      FF14 """""modders""""" were using """""mods""" in PvP to automatically use abilities in response to other abilities.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This all happened because the one guy didn't turn off his Nude Chun-Li mods in a tourney

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make TA videos of monster hunter
    >blatantly cheat by modifying part break values and motion values
    >present them as WR times
    >hide the fact you used a mod
    >discord nig rats your group out
    Deserved lmao

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody gives a shit about speedrun records except for autists and trannies

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        And yet people were vocal enough to make a scene over it and make it part of the issue

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I see potential in contesting Capcom's EULA in the EU to get Capcom to stop all pc sales in the market.

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    total pcheat death

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is this shit even legal?
    I could buy any product, modify it, and then show it off online. Sure it would most likely void my warranty but I still could.

    Why is this any different with games?
    Are these companies just so far up their asses that they think their product is special?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately in the year of our lord you're buying a license to a product. You don't own anything

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You dont have the right to stream it in the first place. The IP owners just dont enforce it. It's bullshit, but if you want to complain about it, have fun with the bill in court arguing it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is this shit even legal?
        I could buy any product, modify it, and then show it off online. Sure it would most likely void my warranty but I still could.

        Why is this any different with games?
        Are these companies just so far up their asses that they think their product is special?

        This is why hoe-girlve gets express written permission btw. So it can hold up in court if someone decides to come after one of their talents.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      their product is special because it's not a product that you bought, it's a liscence that they grant you.
      plus on top of that, the DMCA is some of the most anti-consumer legislation ever writ into law.
      even if a company is abusing DMCA strikes and you are fully within your right, there's nothing you can do and no consequences for bad actors.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because digital media is too recent. Copyright laws and industry regulation lag behind and the corporations are hellbent on delaying the inevitable.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You will own nothing

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Japan logic. 2chan threads about it were a hoot.
      Nonstop corporate cum gargling and cope.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry goyjin but you bought a digital license that is an infinite rent of product and we have the rights to revoke that license any time :^)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      To my knowledge that's not how it works on japan, you have to get the consent from the company to stream the game, otherwise you can go to jail, it already happened.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >otherwise you can go to jail, it already happened.
        Wow, that's rough. Source?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.pcgamer.com/japanese-youtuber-might-be-the-first-in-the-world-arrested-for-posting-gameplay-clips/#:~:text=A%20man%20has%20been%20arrested,no%20Darin%20(via%20Automaton).

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Let's play is literally stealing, you're giving away copies of the game in watchalong format for free.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        An American, in America, buying a product sold in America and posting videos of this product to an American website which are being taken down by a process in the American copyright system.
        I don't think Japanese law means anything here.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          A game is no different from a movie. You can buy a movie but that doesn't give you the right to stream it.
          I'm not saying I'm in favor of digital rights, I'm just explaining how they work. Streaming isn't a right, companies just let everyone do it but I'm sure if you try hard enough you'll find an example of a western company limiting streaming.
          Besides, even if you were to try and argue on American laws, afaik Capcom is sending DMCAs to YouTube, which may work under many laws at the risk of being blocked from certain countries.
          Law isn't black and white, and there's tons of things I'm not even mentioning because the post would get too long.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I actually mostly agree with you with the caveat of youtube having specific functions to block individual countries from viewing videos. I just want this stuff taken to court already so there are answers instead of this bs where grifters screech about the unfairness of the world and never do anything about it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      intellectual property rights are fricked

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can take it to court. The DMCA notice is literally telling you to do that or the video stays down. These ""content" creators" are either too weak-willed to do it or they're liars, so they flail wildly and posture instead.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not worth fighting and the companies know it. Once your video is DMCA'd even if it gets reverted your video is essentially done in the algorithm and you lose out on the money you could have make. And if you try to take them to court then the company will just DMCA literally everything, doesn't matter if it's right ore legal, companies have all the power on youtube. So if you make money off of youtube and lose all income while trying to fight this battle that the corporation will just stall out indefinitely to cause you more harm until you give up.

        And you don't make money off of youtube, you probably don't really care that much if the video gets DMCA's and it's definitely not worth the legal fees of trying to fight them in court.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You vill own nothing and you vill be happy

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It, and other scummy practices, are legal because corporations own the government.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not legal. They rely on that a random youtuber is not going to take them to court. But thank American government for facilitating this with DMCA.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It is legal. It can become even more protected if someone tries to sue them with an incredibly moronic cheap lawyer who fumbles the ball and gets it into case law. If its unregulated its legal. There are nor regulations on corporations enforcing like this.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I could buy any product, modify it, and then show it off online.
      You legally can't show it off online unless it falls under fair use (a review for instance)
      The only reason why anything you show off online isn't taken down is because the copyright is either unaware, or simply allows it.

      It sounds insanely dumb, but that is unfortunately the legal hellscape we live in.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        *copyright owner

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        From what I recall, fair use also allows for "transformative" content. Exactly how that's to be defined with regards to video games and videos of them is, as far as I know, not clearly defined.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not any different with games. Companies are allowed to make any claims they want. There are thousands of legal precedents for modifying software for your own use, and countless millions of actual previous applications of it happening.
      >Hey I know this is technically legal to do as defined in 170 different federal judgements and multiple written laws but we personally decide this is not legal now because it just isn't okay?
      Doesn't work like that. They legally can't even alter software for the sole purpose of preventing you from modding. Yes, DRM like Denuvo stops modding dead in it's tracks, but it's also not software for the purpose of stopping mods - it's just a side effect.

      People may disagree with what I just said, but it's the objective truth. At most, they can threaten to take you to court for insane fees in an attempt to make you back down, or send "private investigators" to your door to cause you trouble in-person. The former goes away if you just don't give them any information or reply to them, the latter goes away when you live in a small community in a state that says its legal to shoot trespassers on sight.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >buy
      You are not buying software, you basically can't.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just a reminder that you are buying a license in 99% of cases. I am not defending the devs but you morons are the reason this is happening by supporting downloaded copies of games vs physical. This could have been prevented if we stayed 100% physical instead of digital. You do not own that thing you are renting a license from them. Gaming is dead.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >this could have been prevented if we stayed 100% physical instead of digital.
        Wouldn't have helped. either they'd just turn the disk into a glorified activation key, or they'd find some other way to take it from you. Don't forget that you still have to use proprietary consoles to run your disks. PC games that are free from windows are the only ones that would be exempt.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    japanese businessmen being fricking moronic as usual

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah it's just shitcom larping as a westoid company as usual

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, even western israelites dont go after modders because they understand that its inherently a positive for their product
        shit like this only ever comes from nips, first nintendo and now capcom

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Didnt the firewatch devs facefrick pewdiepie live on stage in front of an audience of millions?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            no one is talking about indies

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did they? If so that's career suicide

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >first nintendo and now capcom
          Coincidentally both have westoid "ethics" departments, though thankfully it looks like NoA is starting to lose power after the treehouse shit.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >treehouse shit
            Qrd?

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to kill modding
    they truly want to be a westoid company huh?

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Work in my machine
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Sherry+mod+resident+evil+2+remake

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any legal basis for this beyond "YOU VIOLATED THE EULA NOBODY READS!"?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You dont own it, nor do you own your performance. They just dont enforce it because often its free advertisement. If your freely provided advertising for their product isn't how they want it, they will take it down.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The vague legal basis is DMCA. The way Youtube implements it (as I understand it) is that a select number of companies can delete videos they don't like as well as channels that upload these videos.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are legally within their rights to copyright strike every single piece of extended gameplay and audio associated with their game, the only reason they dont is because it benefits them not to.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >SuperRAD
    thank you capcom

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Names sounds familiar
      >Look it up
      >it's a video essay channel
      >Suddenly remember gay made a video shit talking people who disliked worlds handler.
      Get fricked.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it so hard to just not cheat?

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >shitcom
    You get what you deserve

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      ROFLCOPTER

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The image of the product is tarnished when mods are released that violate public order and morals.
      Right, because troony pride parades aimed at pleasing groomers is perfectly morally acceptable, right? These Black folk don't give a frick about morality, they are just making excuses to do everything they can to push for more ways to monetize their products. God forbid users get ANY creative control over the product they've purchased.

      If you play on PC, it is a moral imperative to mod your games however the frick you want to. Also pirate games from shitty corpos.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >all mods are cheats
      Clearly me playing as a gigantic fat b***h in single-player is giving me an advantage. Clearly.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you moronic or can you just not read? Try again and give it another go. Come on, you can do it.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Come get me.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this happening because that moronic who hosted a fighting game event forget to turn off his nude chun li mod? always one loser who has to ruin it for everyone

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The point of these laws is that I can't take your thing and use it to profit without any value that I add myself otherwise company B could buy a single disc of company A's movie and stream it for profit which would disincentivize company A from making movies.
    Streaming is in a gray zone, in my personal opinion just playing the game isn't transformative and the company has every right to DMCA the frick out of you. The main counterargument here is that watching a game is not a substitute to playing it yourself so people won't stop buying games because they watched it on Twitch or YT for the reason that they already "got their share of it". I don't buy this argument but it is valid so it's a matter of opinion at this point. Being a substitute is key here, if you decide not to buy a game because it looks like shit on gameplays is fair game and no different from skipping a movie because someone told you it's shit or the trailer was shit.
    On the other hand, if they try to DMCA a mod they should get litigated the frick out off instead because modding is textbook example of fair use - nonprofit and transformative. Abusing DMCA should have it consequences.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      crapcom continues larping as a westoid company, what else is new

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you can't make money off of our product without our permission
    Okay, I can understand the logic here, even if it's a little iffy.

    >you can't modify the product we sold you, it's still technically a license you evil chud!
    This is where I draw the line.

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is all because of the Chun-Li incident isn't it

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    guess they got tired of those lewd mod vids having millions of views

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick capcom, they are the gayest nip company to exist. Most of their homosexualry hasn't reached the games yet which is the only reason they're still relevant. They like to talk but not do the walk, yet.

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good. Tired of seeing all you cheaters with unlimited ammo/one shot weapons anytime I play Monster Hunter.

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    JP devs are known for disliking any alterations to their games. AFAIK they've never actually helped modders in any way and the creation of tools for them like what some western devs do is unheard of. Never even seen any piece of news where devs were actually happy about some mods like with X-COM The Long War or Slay the Spire Downfall. Japanese culture is heavily based on the mantra of "be grateful for what you're given and don't presume you can improve upon it"

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >superrad

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >makes a whole video explaining about players who hate the Handler in MHW are all misogynistic
      psshhh nothing personal kid

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that the youtubers being hit are all speedrunners that were lying about their time attack runs, weren't telling anyone they modded everything, and were speaking as if they're the community leaders.

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >morons confused about this
    most games now have you sign a fricking contract with god knows what in it and you think you can just do whatever you want and post wherever you want?
    these arent even games anymore its more like a “service” you paid for

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, there have already been rulings about this in the U.S. that basically say the things games make you agree to are not actually legally binding.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        US rulings are inconsistent. They only seem to care if it's about running singleplayer content. Everyone that's made mods that affect online multiplayer has gotten fricked hard once it went to court.
        It's ironic, but that one guy who owes Bungie like 20 million will only survive because Bungie is about to die.

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd have to be literally moronic to defend Capcom. They've spent the past two decades proving how much they hate their fanbase.

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This seems like the kind of thing that needs to be tested in court, or at very least a lot of big money creators A) protest Capcom and refuse to stream their games unless this is reversed and/or B) claim that YT is not following the DMCA and what Capcom is asking for is in violation of fair use laws

    Otherwise the only future is ANY game that is modded can be subject to takedowns and basically censored from being broadcast, the moment the publishers decide they don't like it. You have the right to mod your content, the same way you have the right to format shift and emulate and all other sort of things that briefly push back the corporate hellscape.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      big "content creators" won't do shit because the industry is a fricking cartel and they will get blacklisted from everything if the goy cattle ever acts against it's masters

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Streamers boycott Blizzard for a total of 15 minutes then go back to buying their games. Remember Doc boycotting COD until Nick Mercs skin returns? He is already back to playing Warzone. People are spineless. You aren't going to find anyone with a backbone that calls themselves a "streamer".

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          big "content creators" won't do shit because the industry is a fricking cartel and they will get blacklisted from everything if the goy cattle ever acts against it's masters

          The question is if they're willing to at least do it long enough to get the corporate fricktards to take notice. No, they make their money from this shit expecting all but the most autistic successful ones to be like NO NEVER AGAIN EVEN IF YOU CHANGED THE THING I WAS UPSET ABOUT but if you can at least get them onboard for awhile shit would be better

  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    eh, honestly makes sense. Lets plays and streaming are a type of advertising that is allowed because it earns them new sales money. Mods are false advertising that can make your product look shit or unappealing in a way you didn't intend so they get struck down.

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