>character is stated to be super strong
>is weak as frick in gameplay
Why do games do this? Seriously
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>character is stated to be super strong. >is weak as frick in gameplay
>character is stated to be super strong
>is weak as frick in gameplay
Why do games do this? Seriously
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Is this a character from Vtuber Emblem? Or Genshin Impact?
Engage character
It's honestly hard to tell, but that seems to be the case. Now, designwise the character in to OP doesn't look that bad, why didn't the go for a similar look for the main character?
Why does most modern anime look the same?
Which ones? There's actual anime that looks like FE: Engage?
Genshin Impact is a good example now that you mention it. Traveler gets jerked off all the time in the dialogue but not only is the Traveler mediocre in gameplay (until dendro at least) but they also job in the story too.
>tortured into being a walking superweapon
>excellent stats across the board, besides an abysmal luck stat appropriately, 2nd highest strength in the game and not very far behind Dimitri at that, highest BST of all characters only behind a modded-in Sothis
>once shot a man in Reno just to watch him die
>excellent with an axe but also can use swords and magic effectively, being one of the few units that can learn black and dark magic
Sometimes they get it right.
My wife is perfect.
I mean it was at the cost of making her mentally unstable and with a drastically shot lifespan... But Slitherers sure knew what they were doing
I don't think she has the shortened lifespan issue Lysithea does. Edelgard was the successful twin crest experiment.
I don't remember being mentioned now that you say it, it could be assumed. Maybe that's one of the reasons she is so determined to complete her plans in such a short amount of time
She is a magic adept but her personal class doesn't use magic, even though the FE character she's based on is an armored emperor that uses magic. The frick.
Probably so that Byleth has something unique about them in their Enlightened One line and not just yet another thing Edelgard does better. She has access to fricking Hades and Luna.
R A G I N G S T O R M
The fact that they didn't give her master class magic still pisses me off to this day. Also the fact that IS has been allergic to armored mages since FE6.
Lapis is fine. Shit strength is easier to fix in engage. The only real thing stopping her from being good is Kagetsu existing but he mogs every unit anyway
My point is why does a character that is known for fighting bears not have strength stat noticeably higher than others? Or at the very least a particularly high strength growth
For me it's the fact that she gets totally upstaged by Diamant one chapter later and Diamant isn't even a good unit
How many engage units are even actually good? Because it seems like most of them kind of suck or are okay enough, but get upstaged way too easily. It's moronic.
Late game units in Engage are better than the early game ones. Chloe is the best one imo and she's just at the bottom of high tier.
That's pretty much what I mean by upstaged too easily. I can hardly think of anyone that won't just get replaced besides later units, and even some of those are just bench material. I mean, at least most units aren't completely unusable, but some of those early units struggle hard. I'd shoot myself if I was forced to use Alfred on Lunatic.
I'm pretty sure that's intentional, since you have Emblem Rings that will turn any mediocre unit into a Golden God and cover their weaknesses. Rather the issue is that Kagetsu/Panette are so stupidly OP.
AFAIK the characters in Engage are not particularly good by themselves and are just an assortment of visuals and personality tropes that appeal to some players or others, setting aside some exceptions. The Emblem system is the true protagonist gameplay wise. That way you can chose a waifu and make her good with the right Emblems and bench the units you don't like without remorse.
Why are people so quick to call units bad in engage? Is everyone bad in por because Titania exists?
Relative to other games, individual units matter less than the Emblem rings and skills you give them. Some people go full moron and claim rings are literally the only thing that matters though.
Even though rings do matter, some characters just get outclassed entirely. For example, Framme is mainly support at the start but can make fists hurt after a while, but Pandreo's bases are so much better that he's just a flat out replacement. Their offenses aren't far off each other at a similar levels, but Pandreo's defenses are so much higher she could never catch up. If you're still using her, it's probably because you wanna frick her. A lot of earlier characters have this crippling lack of base stats that can't be made up with growths. And some characters just get absolutely no good ring options for too long. Like what the frick is Etie supposed to do when Lyn and Lucina don't show up until halfway through?
>Etie supposed to do when Lyn and Lucina don't show up until halfway through?
For me it was Sigurd
>Bulk
You do know that Engage is the same game where Bonded Shield exists for over half of it right?
Yeah, but Titania's usefulness is supposed to be temporary like the Jagen she is, Emblems make characters in Engage evergreen and interchangeable to some degree.
>usefulness is supposed to be temporary
Except it isn't, I had a easier time with the game when I started using less characters and let her handle most things
To be honest I have no basis to argue there, I particularly stopped prioritizing her since before the half of the playthrough because I thought she was supposed to be temporary and not a glitch in the Matrix like Seth
Alear, Kagetsu, Panette, Merrin, Chloe, Pandreo, Veyle, Mauvier, Hortensia, Seadall are all typically great from the moment you get them to the end of the game, I'd argue Saphir as well based off my limited experience with her. Rafal and Zelestia too if we're including DLC.
Everyone else can be just as good, but requires more investment or falls off a lot easier at some point
Chloe is complete garbage, Veyle and Mauvier are mediocre and the only reason they see use is because they're introduced with the final two party slots which ensures nobody else will be worth grinding to fill the position.
>Chloe is complete garbage,
I appreciate you letting me know with your first 4 words that your post is garbage and I shouldn't bother reading the rest
I mean, she isn't a good unit. Her damage output is laughable, spears in general are terrible for damage in Engage and her speed growths are nowhere near useful enough to justify.
>spears
Found your problem
Chloe is a magic unit, turn her into a Levin Sword Griffin Knight at level 10 and then she can snowball through the rest of the game as a Mage Knight next reclass, particularly since she doesn't have much competition for resources early on with how bad/mid the other Firene/Brodia units are
My first time playing a changed her inro an axe pegasus and I realized that was a huge mistake because it reset her lv
It doesn't reset their level. A units global level is measured and kept track of behind the scenes, you don't lose stats you've gained, only job bonus stats and caps change when you change class.
I'd still had to grind up to level 10 to promote though
>Chloe is complete garbage
Chloe can all but solo the final boss using a flame lance.
Diamant is a great unit.
Lapis has better bases than Diamant. Sword Fighter is just a shit class compared to Lord statwise but that's barely relevant because you can instantly promote her to Hero or seal over to a not shit class like Wyvern very quickly. It's like how Panette actually has very high personal dex but she's stuck in crappy Berserker.
I don't know what the frick they were thinking with the Swordfighter/Master class. It's entirely outclassed by Griffin Knights.
Why do you people insist on metagayging so hard on a game that doesn't remotely require you to? The difference between a LV 20 Griffin Knight Lapis and a LV 20 Swordmaster is +1 Str, +4 Mag, +1 Dex, +6 Res, +1 Lck, -1 Bld. None of these stats are capped, just by the way. Considering the weakness to bows which are pretty abundant in Engage, that doesn't seem like nearly as much of a bonus as people will have you believe. None of the stat differences I mentioned will be of particular significance to Lapis, except Bld, which Swordmaster has.
Griffin has flight, neatly fits into 100% bonded shield balls, staff access for self improvement on turns where you can't fight and the higher Mag is useful when combined with stuff like Sword Power, Eirika and more enabling kills on reslets.
These are all metagay points like I was saying. Swordmaster still does perfectly fine and has the ability to add damage with chain attacks. Using the lack of staff to call a class bad is fricking moronic. Even your staff unit isn't always going to have something to do.
>thinking is now metagayging
Swordmaster is a shit class. It's as viable as using Vander, but I'm not going to pretend that Vander isn't the worst Jagen in the franchise
The game isn't so ballbustingly difficult or unfair that using Swordmaster is a liability. To suggest that it is, is metagayging. Even Martial Master which is a pretty mediocre class considering how little combat presence it has is a perfectly servicable class. This isn't Awakening Lunatic+ or Conquest where you'll hit a wall for making subpar choices.
>This isn't Awakening Lunatic+ or Conquest where you'll hit a wall for making subpar choices.
Clearly someone isn't doing a no somniel run
The two examples I gave are like that by default. Obviously if you're doing a challenge run where you completely ignore a central mechanic you would have to metagay to some extent.
it's easier to hit a wall from not metagayging in engage than it is conquest if you're not using the well
I'd argue I'd take a Martial Master before I'd take a Swordmaster anyday.
>Martial Master
It has excellent staff utility, 100% Bonded Shield and can casually get +7 AS between Flashing Fist and a tonic. Literally all it needs is some form of true damage like Gentility and thing becomes really strong fast.
Early game is practically a solved puzzle and its just a matter of match ups because most of the cast don't really have an enemy phase unless you stretch it very thin so Etie isn't unique in that regard.
Everyone else can take at least one hit usually though. It just kinda sucks to make one mistake with Etie early and she's done for. Especially on the fog map if you don't remember all the placements. She's just really unforgiving to use.
>Most of the cast can take one hit
I mean, Etie can also take one hit if you know what you're doing and Chapter 6 is nasty for a lot of people because they tend to just die if you use them wrong.
I mean, look at chapter 5. She eats a stray sword, she gets doubled and dies even if you give her a speed tonic. And to be fair, those aren't terrible to avoid in the first place, but it's still kind of annoying. That's the main issue, being one of the only characters early that gets doubled sucks, especially with how frail she is. Of course, she's still usable, I brought her along but the early game is extremely rough. At least she's not Alfred.
Myrms are a shit player class but one of the most dangerous enemies. Jobbing to them is the norm not the exception
Low IQ idiot. Conquest is perfectly playable with just gen unints in their canon promote
Switchbabies never played the older games. The only way to get into a wall in Conquest is if you’re just really bad, I managed to beat Lunatic and I lost one of the best backpack units for Xander (Charlotte) and Camilla
My main problem is it has no niche. If I want a backup class, I'll pick Hero or Warrior. If I want a fast attacker, I'd pick Griffon Knight. It doesn't even have anything cool going for it, like 20 range Astra Storm for Snipers.
Flight, more Mov, a garbage class skill compared to Swordmaster's SUPER garbage class skill, Bonded Shield
Griffin's class skill is decent though
>The difference between a LV 20 Griffin Knight Lapis and a LV 20 Swordmaster is +1 Str, +4 Mag, +1 Dex, +6 Res, +1 Lck, -1 Bld.
And the staff utility instead of being swordlocked
And the +1 movement
And better levin sword which is a sword gay's only source of 2 range attacks outside of some engage weapons
And flight utility
I like fliers, simple as.
Mounts are cringe simple as
Mine was strong as frick, sounds like a you problem.
Why anyone would willingly use literally whogetsu is beyond me. What a snore of a character.
I love Lapis
she as cute and the first engage girl i like, but unable to compete with goldmary
sex
>character is consistently one of the hardest to kill
>when join you they are just an utility unit that can't kill anything and die if they get hit by a breeze
>The peak of FE gameplay desing
Also, did they make her look like a clown on purpose?
You are just ignorant on history but that is expected of a edelgard poster
Nah Mika is just a shitty character designer
nah. she's fine. 3h on the other hand looks ass compare to engage
>rent free
>he thinks this looks good
Well yes, how does a group shot looks in Engage?
Can you girls stop fighting?
Better than the pride parade at least
Literally anything is better than a school setting imo
No
Still even 3H has more of a war setting than Engage
I said in my opinion, I hate school settings. War isn't even necessary blazing blade was fine with out it
Of course Three Houses lives rent free on their heads, Engage takes most sounds effects and even the support's background music is the same, not even similar in composition, THE SAME as Three Houses... It's like IS wants us to compare them by subliminal message
You utility is insanely useful do it balances out
What, Hortensia is super easy to kill all 3 times herself, she's just always surrounded by 6+ other units each time and the puzzle is breaking through all of them at once.
Why was Bunet so fricking bad
Why haven't you hacked your switch yet?
>another FE thread ruined by 3housesgays
>another FE thread enriched by 3housesgays
FTFY
Are you comparing yourself to a rapefugee?
Duscurian at least
You're free to post about anything else just ignore it if it bothers you
*edeltards
We hate then as much as you do
Fricking hating Edelgard it's not the same as wanting to hate-fricking her
I mean, you could just go back to your Engage echo chamber called /feg/
What did /feg/ do?
>"why are engagegays so obsessed with us?"
>first post on thread is from edeltard talking about "vtuber designs"
>second post is edeltard talking about 3H in Engage thread
its all so tiresome
MY EMPRESS!!
>character has pink hair
>is always the fricking WORST
Harmony is the only counter-example and it's not exactly hair anyway
Name 5
Sakura
other Sakura
Hilda
Lightning
Pinkie Pie
Gwendy sucks, but I like her. Serra good. Hilda is hot, but I didn't use her, so I don't know much about her.
>miss
>die
Yeah I'm thinkin Chloe is shit
Bro? Your Wyvern Knight Chloe with a higher def growth?
I'm only on chapter 5
I just hate ludo narrative dissonance
Second time through, I honestly see why people praise her, but I gave her Sigurd. But it's not like there's much competition for him. Louis is the only other character I can think of that you'd want to keep Sigurd on. Everyone else either sucks or they just don't use him very well.
Sigurd's +1 Bld is practically interchangeable with +1 Spd for a lot of characters early on and he also boosts accuracy and defense which is really helpful.
Almost every early game unit can use him well and Celine has a niche in that she can run Mystical Levin Sword with him if she's not using Celica because you passed her to someone else.
If you don't want to use Chloe, you can just use Alear or Lapis.
Etie's can OHKO virtually every early game flier with a Steel Bow and her biggest issue is just getting Axe Prf to seal into Warrior right away.
A lot of characters can utilize Marth well, and there's also room for Roy thanks to Rise Above + Engage being a minimum of like +4/5 Strength on Warrior!Etie that early on in the game while also saving her bulk.
I'm also assuming that as soon as you gain access to meals that you're always cooking +2 Spd meals for the entire time. Fun fact, a freshly promoted MK!Citrinne with a +2 Spd Meal aka Spd Tonic can double a significant chunk of the pre 11 enemies because her base speed is actually relatively competent that early on.
My problem is usually, it just feels harder early not to use more optimal rings. Like when you have Sigurd, Celica, Marth, Micaiah as your only options. Etie basically dies to everything in that time and you need to be extremely careful, and the flier count tends to vary early, where some stages have plenty and some have none and she just chips at stuff. Sigurd could be okay around then I guess, at least her strength is good so Ridersbane could give her more options and Canter makes it easier to keep her out of trouble.
There's still situations where you might need that bulk though. In the midgame, I gave Framme a decent amount of favoritism because I wanted to try Flashing Fist. And she did do some crazy damage. But the issue was her bulk was stupid low, so a lot of enemies would kill on the counter so it was pointless. And yeah, you can fix that with stat boosters or by breaking them, the difference is that Pandreo doesn't need that to avoid exploding. But maybe I'm not playing optimally enough.
filtered by La Piss
>La-piss
>Urinne
Does Engage has a piss subtext or is FE scratching the bottom of the barrel when it comes to names?
Gem stones
So bottom of the barrel then
What's with the vibrators?
Chapter 12 of this Silver Snow fresh save Maddening run
Edelgard has used her new position as Emperor to declare war against the Church of Seiros. Citing that the Church has misused its creed to take advantage of the people to serve themselves. And so she musters the entire strength of the Empire and the Demonic Beasts to raze Garreg Mach to the ground with the Empire taking ownership over Fodlan. In response Garreg Mach only has 2 weeks to defend itself before Imperial troops march the gate.
I recruit Hilda as well as Catherine, Cyril, Seteth, and Alois. And after taking a sabbatical to teach Hilda Deathblow and swatting away the invading Almyrans for Friekugal, I prepare for the invasion of the Academy
I consider chapters 12 and 13 one chapter since chapter 13 has no preparation phase. Meaning any loadout I have here will carry over to Hunting By Daybreak. As such bawdleth reclasses to Trickster since I'll need the Stealth skill later. Somehow, SOMEHOW fake Catherine dies to Randolph and while I decide to press on, I unfortunately do not risk routing this map. As an aside Edelgard having literally 0% chance to hit bawdleth is very funny but unfortunately no matter how hard I meme on her, the Church of Seiros is doomed to lose here and bawdleth takes a 5 year nap to get over it.
Hilda won in the end
How am I supposed to beat the chapter 5 boss without losing anyone
Blow up a bar with Warp Ragnarok, then chip down the rest with chain attacks
Vander should still be able to tank a round by that point
bro your louis
Lapis is the cutest girl in the game and I use her even though it is actually hampers my team.
>oh yeah she's super strong and also she's a hot girl with pink hair
How can any self-respecting adult watch this shit?
I mean you gotta have autism or something, right?
Play*
That's easy, just lack any self respect in the first place
Yeah I know Ganker is autistic as frick, but goddamn this shit really takes the cake.
>says she doesn't want to kill anyone anymore
>plans to kill Lumera a second time and also murders the remaining hounds
>game flopped so hard people have to resort to posting sloppa because there's no fan art
Just a bit sad tbh
>no fanart
I have an entire folder of it. Do you want me to dump it or what?
No, frick off moron
But since I know that you're already going to dump it regardless because you're a kissless NEET virgin with too much time, I at least ask you that you don't post feet pics of her. That would really piss me off
you don't need to bait so hard to ask for feet pics, anon.
I think Engage came to light in a bad time, it's quite tragic, the public at large is more cynical, the Vtuber scene lost appeal, the MCU died and nostalgia-baiting is met with thoroughly skepticism these days. Most artist are not inspired enough to make memes or even porn of FE:Engage and the few maybe talentless fans enthusiastic enough to do something have to resort to soulless AI or doodles at best
>doodles at best
That's better than ai at least someone tried
>I think Engage came to light in a bad time
If Engage had come out when it was supposed to (2020) and was explicitly marketed as a shallow but silly 30th anniversary title it wouldn't have gotten half the shit it did.
It's the fact that they tried to position it as the follow-up to the best selling SRPG as all time that killed it, because it isn't that. It does two things well, experimental gameplay and nostalgiawank. It's not the full experience with characters, story, lore like 3H was but that was what people were expecting.
The two biggest factors to the negative reception towards Engage were missing the anniversary date and then bad and misleading marketing when they finally did release it.
Built for big black knight wiener
>then bad and misleading marketing when they finally did release it.
What happened there? I thought people said the game barely got any advertisement
It got the worst kind of marketing; Colgate-chan's design got leaked without context
Completely agree, if it had come out in 2020 and before 3H it would have been better recieved at launch and looking back it could be regarded as a product of it's time without any hard criticism.
I don't like Fire Emblem: Engage as a gameplay Fire Emblem
Attempt number 3 I hate vander
Nah, I see you're here only to sour the mood.
If you wanted to use this thread just to be rude at people then go ahead. I won't participate.
They took out shipping and that killed it for the average player because you couldn't spend hours arguing over ships.
Good. That leaves more space for Panette X Me
Will we ever be able to discuss fire emblem again without a dedicated brigade of shitposters who want to see all discussion dead?
I am very tired of this monkey tribalism phase we are in right now.
Then fricking talk about the game there's plenty of post itt doing so
What’s with the edelgard gays trying to start shit up, if you wanna shitpost make a three houses thread dude
>even reading edelgard posts let alone replying to them
As cancerous as they are, mass replying to them instead of just ignoring them is even more moronic.
>again
Are you new here dude? Name a time when you were able to discuss this franchise with shitposting, the only time I could think of could be Echoes since nobody played it but even then there was drama over Gaiden being bad.
I miss when FE was just two horsies poking at each other for 7 dmg.
Why?
I enjoy low numbers easy brain calc part of FE. It felt nice to have a game where very low numbers could be considered high, and made tactical decisions easier, while still making you feel smart when you pull it off. The gimmicks and skills are getting bloated as hell, and it annoys me.
But it's so boring.
Okay, I'm not forcing you to like it. I just dislike the fact that half the skills seems to invalidate counters.
I dont think Skills are inherently bad, my problem is that Engage seemed to have made the problem worse. Many say it was fixed since there’s only 2 skills to inherit but they made the Rings a sort of “skill pack”. In previous games you’d have to keep a character into a class and reach a certain level to get the skill you want meaning that for some time skills didn’t really play a part. In engage you get the ring, feed some doggy crystals to a high rank and boom you got the skills of the ring ready to use.
You get the skill of the ring, but you don't get the skill of the class. You can slap wrath on anyone but only Snipers get something like no distraction, and it doesn't carry over if you change classes.
I don't I always hated mounted units
Sorry anon, but that stopped being a thing ever since FE4
So?, he is right
I wish Skill Emblem died
Gba baby detected
Engage already killed skill emblem though. Classes have one single skill when promoted like FE8 the SNES games, most skill inherits are just simple stuff to fix your stats instead of crazy shit like Kinoquest's replicate, and emblem rings are basically FE4's band items that give you skills when you equip them
But since Engage flopped, you can expect Awakening 4 soon
That armor is impractical for combat. Her stomach is exposed.
But tummies are cute
FE games always had early game carries. The issue is that they also were godly units in the late game unless they died in the plot or something.
Gunther is pretty trash in conquest.
we need more Mmage/Fwarrior pairings
>Mage Cannoneer with book of worlds
a scuffed 8 range freeze every 3 turns or so? doesn't seem as useful as deleting one particularly annoying enemy with lyn or halting an entire group with corrin
Freeze is after one turn
Being so sensitive must be very advantageous in the bedroom; I'm sure your boyfriend must be very proud of himself.
Despite that, try to be more of an adult while discussing a children's videogame
Holy smokes I finally beat chapter 5 that took forever
My only rationale is that they must have assumed that the Engage system allowed you to use whoever you wanted with reasonable effectiveness, so it didn't matter if some characters were just objectively shit.
Which is moronic.
If you aren’t Kagetsu or Pandreo, you’re getting benched
Sorry but if you aren’t the literal best physical or magical unit that means you’re a waste of resources
This but unironically
Except I'm not benching the other units since they make perfect meatshields for Kagetsu and AWOOOOOO man
The gap between mages is tiny and in most circles, Pandreo is like #3 after the Elusia sisters.
For like 80% of the rings, the most relevant aspect they offer is their stat bonuses. You could delete everything about Lyn except for her +5 Speed at Bond 20 (and the related inherits) and she'll still be one of the best rings because it stacks with other sources of speed to make even the likes of Amber and Etie capable of doubling.
Comparing Hortensia to other mages is like comparing Seadall to other fist users, disingenuous. Ivy is almost universally agreed to be worse than Pandreo from all but the most delusional Ivykeks.
Are you crazy? Ivy is generally built to be the magical carry because fixing speed in Engage is a fricking joke, lmao +7 AS before emblems/boosters due to skills/tonics/meals plus she has innate flight AND B staves at once giving her utility on top of her combat.
Pandreo is good but he can't have both good combat and utility at once unlike the Elusia sisters which is why he's considered 3rd place.
Hell, Hortensia isn't even all that bad as a combat unit if you decide to not give her Micaiah for that run and opt for Celica because +8 mag for free on top of Seraphim being an 18 Mt weapon on virtually every endgame enemy.
>Pandreo is good but he can't have both good combat and utility at once unlike the Elusia sisters which is why he's considered 3rd place.
Sage Pandreo is perfectly fine for exactly the same reasons you stated, fixing speed in Engage is a joke, not to mention the powerful Emblem bonus utility from Corrin or Byleth as a Sage that Ivy can't use. His personal means you don't need to dedicate his engrave to patching his accuracy unlike Ivy's blind ass, and flight in Engage stops being important after chapter 18 since it's more efficient to warpskip/Astra Storm cheese chapters 21 and 23-endgame.
The most relevant aspect of Corrin once you start playing the game faster is Dreadful Aura/Draconic Hex.
Also, Pandreo going Sage means that you can't do dumb meme flier balls with Lucina + Wyvern/Griffin Alear which is one of the most degenerate strategies in the game. Besides, are you really harping on muh hit in a game that offers umpteen forges and over half of them offer bonus hit? Leif is +1 Mt and +20 Hit for free, Byleth who barely anyone wants gives +30 and most of the emblems that she likes gives bonus Dex and/or Luck.
Flame Vein utility is still a godsend on rout maps like the Pact Ring paralogue, or for the fricking dogs in general like in 20 if you're playing it without already knowing exactly where every enemy is in the fog.
I prefer cavalry death balls with Mage Knights + Merrin who I baby on every run myself, so I can't say I've used the flying variant much, but in regards to Byleth, you have to stick him on someone anyway, and it might as well be someone who can use Thrysus. Or Anna if you really want to farm gold that run for some reason.
When can I do the dlc?
>Dimitri vs Guts in the next Death Battle
Guys guys how about everyone uses whatever unit and class they like instead of doing autistic debates? The modern FE games basically make it so you can make anyone good anyway (minus Vander)
That's the peak of gameplay, Fire Emblem was never about it's characters
Because arguing about unit viability like moronic manchilds is FUN
>The modern FE games basically make it so you can make anyone good anyway (minus Vander)
You dropped your Etie and Bunet
>b-b-b-but Etie is good because I can spam time crystals in my casual mode playthrough! Please don't diss my abs waifu..
Vander is literally the only unit in Engage that's borderline unsalvageable outside of meme builds like Halberdier + Eirika.
Not that anon, but my Etie genuinely turned out perfectly fine. Make her a warrior, give her a longbow, and she'll be just fine. She shouldn't be taking hit anyway.
Etie is fine on anything other than a no-Somniel run.
>Etie fine.
No. Etie is one of the worst units in the game no matter the run. She is a high investment unit locked in one of if not the worst class in the game until she promotes and even if you decide to invest in her she has to constantly hit certain benchmarks to stay relevant. Not only that she has no notable niches to help stand out.
>but she has high strength
Of the early game units Louis, Alcryst (with his personal active), Amber, Jade, and EVEN FRICKING LAPIS all have similar strength as warrior if promoted at the roughly the same level. Etie only has significantly higher strength than Alcryst and Lapis after about 15+ levels (while having worse everything else) and she still does less damage than FRICKING LAPIS because Lapis will actually double enemies unlike Etie.
https://fe17.triangleattack.com/average_stats
Here you can check yourself if you don't believe me.
>she good at killing fliers
This is not super important in the early game but, is a nice convenience. However, in the mid game every character listed above can one round fliers as warriors. With no investment and a radiant bow Fogado will one round every flier from chapter 12 - 22. Anyone equipped with Lyn and Lucina can also one round fliers consistently.
Etie is complete shit. One of the worst units in the game.
sweetie just give her Lyn and the Pact Ring and Engage+ and a +5 Longbow and Rally buffs and your boosters and she's ok
I sort of wonder who's considered the absolute worst unit. Because honestly, for me it has to be Alfred. He's got the problems of most early units, except without a niche to even help him stand out early on. Or at least I can't think of a worse unit in the game.
Alfred's not great but he can still be a bargain bin Louis if push comes to shove. There's no point in trying to fix his terrible spd base really. Outside of Vander, Etie and Bunet are probably the worst 2 with Jade coming in a very distant third thanks to being salvaged by the introduction of Well SP giving her a huge leg up compared to before where she was kind of super fricked due to her awkward join time
My main issue with Alfred is he fricking sucks balls early and it's ridiculously hard to get him to a place where he can be a discount anything in the first place. I would sooner defend Etie because at least killing fliers early and chipping at 2 range is more than he's realistically gonna do in a playthrough.
Probably Clanne. Like Anna hes in the wrong class but, unlike Anna he doesn't have the the same explosive offensive growth to make up for his rocky start. He also has really low base strength so even when you finally get him onto a really good class for him like warrior/wyvern that compliment his relatively good physical growths he has to play catch up with his 50ish% str growth rate where. As a comparison Anna has an okay base mag stat and also has to catch up ahe has 75% minimum mag growth to help her catch up and even surpass the other magic units you get. He also has bad build so you can't even abuse axes and his high speed to make up for his low strength. This one is especially baffling because every other single male caster has great build. It legitmatally feels like they designed Clanne to fail from the start.
Clanne is just Better Rosado so no he's not the worst unit in the game
On paper Clanne is better but, it takes way more effort to get Clanne to that point. Giving 9 levels to a weak hitting mage that becomes a noodle armed flier is much different than getting a noodle armed twink for free.
Uh huh getting a unit that joins at ch2 in the *has Micaiah* part of the game is uh le hard
*to level 10
You sound like a stat chart warrior.
For example, Lapis has one of the highest personal bases during the early game and its what allows her to survive off that 25% strength growth.
Engage's AS thresholds during the midgame are actually fairly lenient for doubling. 500 SP and Bond Fragments in conjunction with a meal allows any unit of your choice to get +5 AS before emblems. 10/1 Warrior Etie has 16 Spd before weapon weight and anyone that's seriously intending on using her on any given run well have her going into midgame at a higher level than that. For reference, 16 AS is enough to double most targets in Chapter 12 and note that I didn't give Etie any emblems to help speed (Lyn) or Bond Rings (Anna/Sharena/anything that gives +Bld and/or Spd depending on weapon like Osian).
Lucina's Parthia is very strong yes, but note that its only active for 3 turns at any given time and her wielder in some comps tend to be busy pressing Bonded Shield. Radiant Bow is good at fliers but there's nothing preventing you from having an extra bow unit because bows are fairly decent in this game due to fliers and Warriors like them due to Dual Assist. Silver Bow+ is basically a Parthia that can be engraved and its also fairly lightweight allowing the 3 B Bow Warriors to use it without any issues for their AS.
Clanne's strength growth is just bait. Yes, I'm aware that his growth in mag is just 10% but as a Mage Knight he has overkill speed and as such doesn't need to bother to inherit for AS. He's better off inheriting Sword Power/Canter and running a Levin Sword build or Gentility/Canter and running a Celica build for the +8 Tome might. Dusts are less competitive than Rings too so its not as harmful when you give him one compared to giving him a ring because remember that Clanne's personal strength isn't that good.
>You sound like a stat chart warrior
I'm not sure how to take this comment. I'm assuming you're calling me a number autist so let me clarify: I've done multiple playthroughs of the game but, I just find anecdotal evidence by itself to be weak so I try to supplement my opinions with objective numbers. Numbers aren't everything obviously and things like join time, supports, and level of investment are important as well however, I think giving objective numbers help give everyone a common ground to look at a character.
Anyway... When there is like 5 other units who would are within 1-3 points of Etie's STR that also won't have trouble doubling enemies so what does bringing Etie bring over other characters who require way less investment actually do? Etie is 100% usable but, she doesn't bring anything to the table someone else already doesn't. For example Louis who has a really strong early game and has a much weaker mid game can pivot into a warrior and do the same thing as Etie who has a significantly worse early game than Louis. Amber as another example with zero investment can also do the same exact thing but better. Hell even the aftermentioned Lapis with nothing but the bond fragment for the proficiency and a master seal is just as strong as Etie and will do the same functions. Etie just doesn't excel at anything that really matter in my opinion. B rank bow isn't very notable. C rank gives killer and radiant which are both much better than a silver especially when you factor upgrade costs.
You're right about Lucina but, the point I was trying to make was flier hate isn't supper ubiquitous and a lot of units can do it. I personally think Etie is usable but, if you think about them objectively and start comparing them to others you see she doesn't really bring much to the the table and she is either outclassed, needs more investment than, or doesn't bring another niche with her.
Cont.
>clanne
I'll take your word on Clanne. Every time I've used him he just performed very poorly and looking at his growths only cemented me thinking he's absolute dogshit. Next time I play though I'll try out your build. I have my reservations though.
Other units like Anna and Jean also want Miciah for grinding and give better returns than Clanne. Ignoring that however you still invest time into Clanne whereas Rosado literally just exists.
Early on Clanne's your only real option for magic, during which he's demolishing enemies no one else can touch.
Later on he has great speed, which means you can afford to give him heavier tomes/levin sword and he'll still double enemies that other magic options usually won't. And he'll be doing that without Lyn stapled to him either, and can make good use of Celica which is a rarity later on.
He wont be a Kagetsu or Pandreo, but he's easy to use and to make the cut into a final team, with no period where he's a liability, pain in the ass to use, or competing for rings/engravings/forges that other people need for them to do their jobs.
You're a moron
Pretty much anyone aside from like Vander can go Warrior and be a better archer than Etie that won't turn into a bloody smear on the floor if (1) enemy unit looks at them the wrong way but *niche and vague hypothetical about one shotting an endgame enemy* so she's actually good and you should ignore all those time crystals you waste on her
Vander is fine since it requires 0 invesment to be at least usable.
>The modern FE games basically make it so you can make anyone good anyway (minus Vander)
I don’t know why people still have unit arguments when this is the case. It was understandable to have unit debates in the past games since there was little wiggle room to make a unit good unless you arena abused or grinded. Stuff like Lilina vs Lugh made sense. Even units people thought were bad like Etie can be good units easily with all the shit the stuff gives you.
You somewhat have to if just because you need to mention what classes makes someone good and you end up with funny shit like Dreadfighter Azama being as good as Ryoma.
She always does good if you give her some xp, an emblem (marth), and a steel sword
Carries until you lose your emblems, then she has enough speed to double everything for a while before you start needing to worry about her stats
Swordmaster doesnt give better growths than sword fighter and she’s already fast enough so you can give seal priority to other characters
A steel blade + dawn engrave + framme chi guard is a pretty reliable evade tanking combo
She makes a great wyvern knight
Basically Lapis is a very special girl who stays useful through the entire game
Can we talk about Sacred Stones and how it's easily best GBA plot, which admittedly isn't saying much?
There’s a sacred stones thread though. Eirika having a Celica moment brings the plot down for me
It's feels in line with her character to try and believe in whatever thin hope that she could save Lyon, it's more or less in character with how she's acted up till that point. It's weird how people tend to think of Erika's route as the better story, when I feel like Ephraim's route back and forth banter with corrupt Lyon is better, and stuff like the Grado calamty being foreshadowed with Lyon's prophecy plus the few quakes you experience.
Lyon is such a great and tragic character, he really gives Akatsuki no Yona's Soo-Woon vibes, I hope they remake it like they did Gaiden and enrich some characters and maybe complement more like my man Valter
sacred stones could be a top 3 fire emblem plot, hilariously
The beginning of the game actually hooked me on the series as a whole which is funny since FE7 nearly made me drop it.
Narratively though I like how there's all around confusion both within and without Grado as to what could provoke such an insane invasion. The 3 knights are trying their best to remain loyal but what the frick you're ordering us to kill our closest allies. And the dead rising again for seemingly no reason. I still enjoy SS's general story. FE8 was good, I'll die on that hill.
One of them joins you at least.
I feel like the troubadour lady was supposed to join too but they ran out of time or something.
The Orson twist was pretty obvious but the fact he can steal your weapons after turning red does a lot to make you hate him. Especially when you realize he sold out his country to frick his dead wife's corpse.
Lararchel is pretty easy to staff spam, she joins o Eph's route she joins on a FoW where you can just torch spam and you get barrier the two chapters later, she doesn't need to hit 20 to smite the crap out of everyone.
It's a very decent plot, it doesn't have world ending consequences like most games seems to have these days, it has the best aspects of Genealogy and Gaiden, the characters are solid and iconic... It's no wonder it's being memed to this day
In some respects SS lack of diffculty might have actually improved it's longevity. It's similar to how pokemon games are dogshit easy so people make solo challenge runs or special rulesets, which people also do for SS in great abundance compared to other FE games.
If I'm not mistaken they lowered the difficulty and some narrative complexity to appeal more to westerners after the modicum of success FE7 had on launch taking the boost given by FE characters appearing in Melee. Anyway it made it one of the most enjoyable games to pick up again from time to time... Maybe I think that because I'm a westerner; I don't know if SS is very popular in Japan
It’s funny, back in the day FE was made easier for us westerners but now it seems we want the hard as frick FEs. I don’t know if I remember correctly but someone posted opinions on Engage from Japanese players and some of them said that they didn’t like the game due to it’s difficulty
>opinions on Engage from Japanese players and some of them said that they didn’t like the game due to it’s difficulty
For real? Japs have gotten soft it seems, at least the must find Engage visually appealing with their big tiddy waifus and smug e-girls with strident colors
>from Japanese players and some of them said that they didn’t like the game due to it’s difficulty
nips just like gachashit now so it’s not surprising
Better question, what's the best SS support convo?
what's with overrating Sacred Stones recently. It's like the most mediocre fe game with zero redeeming qualities.
The first FE of many.
It's fun, has nice characters and doesn't over stay its welcome
>Edeltards still seething to this day
You'd think they would have gotten over CF being the worst route by now
>Choosing to provoke them
Frick off and ignore them.
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional"
t.some butthurt engay perhaps
Take your medication schizo.
Edelgard won Three Houses and is the most popular and influential Fire Emblem Character ever, I do not think they have any reason to be seething. In fact, your post looks like a shitpost and seethe to me.
I, as an Edelgard enjoyer, am fully aware that when the Emperor of Flames graces us once again in FE4R the era of the Flame Emperor will end.
This fe 4 and 5 will destroy fodlan
I'd welcome that destruction, Three Houses would fade out to welcome a superior game and plot, maybe they'd integrate the "Epic Engage Gameplay (tm)" in FE4R and that band of autistics be satisfied. Engage would be regarded as a distant past mistake like Tokyo Mirage Sessions was, and we'd have a laugh remembering it every now and then
I'd rather play TMS and Engage over 3H any day.
It's ok to have bad taste as long as you're a functional non-lizard human being contributing to a meritocracy-based society
3H has shit gameplay and other FE games have better story. Why the frick would I ever bother with 3H?
If you enjoy the setting, understand that not every thing has to be done in the monastery, do minimalist runs every now and then and not Marathoning the 4 routes there's enjoyment to be found. It's a pretty chill game with endearing characters
No there fricking isn't
I've repirated the game to try out the no monastery mode and surprise it's still SHIT
Shit has objectively the worst early game in any FE game. Literally echoes tier of having a team full of trainee homosexuals
I'm sad it's not for you then, at least you know why you don't like it and don't throw blind hate towards something like most Engays, respect
I like the unit customization, but maddening is a slog to play in the beginning so that hinders it.
Man, you reminded me how much I miss Berniebro
That’s not Bernie though.
Looks like her close enough
What FE games do you think have a better story? Genuine question.
I was going to say your bait needs to be less obvious but somehow morons keep responding to you
Because I'm shitposting, discussing, having fun and being honest at the same time
https://strawpoll.com/eNg69X7MjnA
Thoughts on fixed growths?
no likey, I prefer the toss up if my unit gets super blessed, average or shitty
hey Ganker, so i'm playing engage. been trying to do a maddening iron man (no resets or time crystal, no skirmishes, if game over i have to delete file) and i've lost a few times. usually around chapter 17-20. the runs have been fun as frick up until i die though, the stakes and challenge are great. i havent beaten the game normally yet, playing without those stakes just feels boring as frick. problem is, i'm just not good enough and dont know the end game maps well enough to finish it, it seems like. i was thinking maybe a middle ground would be to get the dlc and do a maddening run with dlc, then once i beat it run back through with no dlc. what do you all think of this? i don't have the dlc so i don't know if they are too busted and would trivialize the challenge.
dude just play the game how you want to play.
i know, i think i have tism or something cause i'm more worried about keeping the game balanced then the devs were i think. i probably will just give the dlc a try and use them as sort of a boost and have them help me thru the endgame my first time thru. i hear the final boss map is a b***h anyway. $30 is a bit shit but honestly i like this game a lot more than 3h, despite engage having a dumb as hell story so i guess i dont mind supporting it an extra bit.
>hear the final boss map is a b***h anyway.
Which? The normal game or xenologue? The normal games final map is easy, actually the end game chapters are probably the hardest parts of the game unless you use micaiah or lyn cheese
normal . i mostly hear that theres a shitload of reinforcements, but from what ive seen a lot of the late game engage maps are like that. main thing i heard about the xenologue is that its just bad.
Ah lol, yeah Engage loves to spam reinforcements. It’s annoying but for the final map without spoiling they are a bit easier to control. Xenologue is trash yeah.
extremely based, I was trying something similar when it first came out but I started using time crystal after the earlygame
DLC is extremely busted yes mainly if you do it early enough to benefit from the extra EXP and before the level scaling makes the maps too hard though
>character has abs and swings a club around
>insanely low strength stat, lower than literal prissy princesses from the same game
>made a huge guy known for having amazing muscles effortlessly
>pathetic strength growth and loses to little girls
I can't believe they did this shit
This was a case of people expecting an Axe Fighter when she's actually just Hoshido's version of Knight. Which is even worse.
Focusing on Rinkah's strength growth has been and forever will be moronic because she has the same personal as Bernadetta which adds +4 DMG stacking to her attacks. Not to mention that Oni Savage is way better than Knight as a class line because Oni Chieftain is a great class.
I like fire emblem three houses and fire emblem engage
get the frick out redditor. don't you know that you're not supposed to like more than one fire emblem game? You're supposed to hate the other games in the series with such vitriol that it calls into question if you really are a "Fire Emblem series Fan"
>but etie can't take a hit
Why are you leaving your archer in counterattack range in the first place?
Framme should be raised in all tier lists post-Enchanter release as the best unit for the role
edelgay pls
Three Houses is the most boring, tedious, and unplayable game I have ever tried
Why does it have a fanbase?
Le ebin story!!!121!!1
porn addiction
Hello newbie. It was only possible to discuss FE on this board prior to 2012.
We as 3HCHADS are not affiliated with the Edelschizo here.
t. Bernie Bernie Bernie schizo
>3HChads
Who the frick are you guys? Dimitrigays are also schizophrenics and Claude became Edelgard 2.0
I didn't play 3 Copes so it's noncanon to me
sweet more edeltard images to add to the filter
Hi Ganker, it's Sommie. I'm here to tell you to drink water whenever you're thirsty, remember to stretch before doing any strenuous activity, and that homosexuality is an aberration against humanity.
>still no Sommie knight class mod
ONE FRICKING JOB ENGAYGIES
>no wings
Imposter
reddit moment
>that homosexuality is an aberration against humanity.
It's a good thing the Divine Dragon isn't human!
La pissssssssss
>reddit poster sister is a Gankerermin
Makes sense.
um anon-kun you're here too.....
Um, sis-kun, I'm here to enlighten.
Why do /feg/ Black folk make threads on Ganker all the time? Are they really that insufferable that they can’t even stand talking to each other? Can they not understand that they are the reason /feg/ is complete shit?
/feg/ is the worst /vg/ general
I thought /vn/ was the worst and is constantly being bot spammed
/feh/ is even worse
/feh/ IS /feg/
It’s just a separate containment general to contain most of the schizo posting
Honestly I meant for this to just be a general ludo narrative dissonance thread but hey what evs I like engage so this is fine too
holy shit edeltards are worse than wojackgays
I LOVE cute anime girls!
I LOVE cute and funny anime girls!
Mine is probably my second strongest unit. And I don't even think I've prioritised her much.
Lapis is at 40% str/60% speed growths on average, so she's a unit that can just be good if she keeps winning a 40% coin flip.
I see.
Your fat titted waifu? He slept with her.
>High ranked baroness and daughter of one of the most skilled fighters in the entire nation
>Ends up being one of the weakest most useless unit in the entire series
she had such a cute design too...
Reading this thread I am just reminded of how much I love Engage's gameplay.
I personally hate the engage mechanic. All it means is each unit really doesn’t actually matter and only the rings really do. Should have just had each unit have unique abilities themselves instead of contextualizing it with personas. Also the super move shit pisses me off to no end as it’s essentially just a free kill button. Now that I think about it, the reason rings instead of units have unique abilities is because permadeath means permanently losing that ability. Still shit design.
Don’t care plus didn’t ask
Yeah, I like the break and chain mechanics but the engage system is bullshit and I'm glad it's just a one-time thing.
>All it means is each unit really doesn’t actually matter and only the rings really do.
That's quite the exaggeration. Like way so.
t. I didn't play the game
hey homosexual ,advance war is 2 block down
This.
I played all 3 GBA games and nothing compares to Engage's balance, fun and depth.
Did Engage ever add the ability to keep characters in certain outfits like 3H or is that only available as a mod?
mod only
Which is really stupid, either ISIS is extra lazy or they just didn't like the constant clipping you'd get from swapping outfits (not that default outfits are much better in that regard)
units never mattered
I've played all FE games and I ALWAYS deployed all-girls squad
hresvelg bows to sommie
>en·ig·mat·ic
>adjective
>difficult to interpret or understand; mysterious
What is he hiding?
he really is the emblem of foundation
Why’d he abandon his boy?
Sommie should have been the final boss depending on how much you neglected him
>Why’d he abandon his boy?
Sommie is unironically petty as frick. He ditched Sombron the moment he started hanging out with other kids.
So it’s literally all Sommies fault and ge gets away with it too
Pretty much. Millions and millions of deaths all point back to Sommie while he evades justice by staying home and gets beans handfed to him by maidens.
Why did Sommie ask all the female units to dress up like this?
he has a particular taste in women
How do I get them to have bigger boobs?
i recall some anon saying its a stats in a xml file
>a thousand year old empire armed with a million man army, superhuman blood and genetic monsters gets destroyed by a pudgy dog with sunglasses
reddit moment
Don't worry, you can block the Edelgard posts with some Sommie 🙂
>so you want me to kill homosexuals from the empire? sure sommie
-Hresvelg bow to Sommie
-In contact with dragons
-Possess psychic-like abilities
-Control Elyos, Fateslandia, and Fodlan with an iron but fair fist
-Own castles & banks globally
-Direct descendant of the ancient royal blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities on the next fire emblem (Sommiegrad will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
-First designer babies will in all likelihood be Sommie babies
-Is said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Elyos has never existed
-Ancient Elyos scriptures tell about the Emblem of Foundation who will descend upon Elyos and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with him
-he owns Sommiebot R&D labs around the world
-You likely have Sommiebots inside you right now
-Is in regular communication with Kaga, forwarding the word of God to the divine dragon monarchy.
-Learned fluent fodlanese in under a week
-Nation states entrust their gold reserves with Sommie. There's no gold in Garreg Mach Monastery, only Ft. Somniel
-is about several millennia old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
-In reality, he is a timeless being existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe.
>We don't know his ultimate plans yet. We hope he is benevolent beings.
>still necrobumping
back to /feg/, girlies
no
FE threads need shitposting to survive and it seems that Edeltard gave up or you could be based and come to the echoes waifu thread
REACH FOR MY HAND, ILL SOAR AWAY
Celine? Where did the prisoners go? And where's that smoke coming from?
ignore that smoke and just reach for her hand
Sommie is a scoundrel and a homophobe.
>is the deepest character in FE
DO NOT REPOST
I REPEAT
DO NOT REPOST
YES I AM POSTING. I AM POSTING sommie