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Chess is the perfect game
And tetris is the perfect video game.
sadly underrated fpbp
I do a 40L sprint at least once every day, tetris is a godly game
I am now enjoying tetris effect but I also like tertr.io for ez and very quick multiplayer
>lose not because your opponent is better, but because they memorised 500 opening variants
yeh great game
I've got more important things in my memory, like anime tiddys
having memorized openings saves you a ton of time in bullet
there's no running away from studying and memorizing openings unless you want to never get past 1600
>lose not because your opponent is better, but because they are better
Lol, this is only a thing of you're 2000+ rated.
Autists don't care about these things. They're not trying to have fun or be good at anything, they simply want to shit on things. Hilariously if they were ACTUALLY autistic they'd probably be amazing at chess since that's basically the reason Carlsen has been so dominant.
Chess is unironically one of the best designed games in the history of the planet. It's such a simple ruleset but the potential for depth is ridiculous. Next time someone tells you strategy games need fog of war, ask them why chess doesn't need it.
>you don't care about this... because you don't!
>also your autistic but wait not actually
As much as "autism" has come to be a commonplace insult here, there are physical traits connected with the actual condition that you can see in some of the super GMs. Their top lip has the slight appearance of being pushed up.
>Someone who puts more time into something is better at that thing than someone who doesn't
>lose not because your opponent is better, that is impossible, but because he trained more and has more experience
Shit game wtf let me win
Wrong, Chess is imperfect because as you climb in skill memorizing openings becomes more and more important until it eats the whole game.
Fisher Random is the perfect game.
No one plays Fisher Random, not even you, you just parroting shit to sounds like you know what the fuck you're doing.
if chess is such an imperfect game, how come they havent made Chess 2 yet?
They did back in like 910AD but nostalgiafags on 4chisel complained too much about a lack of soul and how the catapult ruined the game and it was forgotten after like a month.
they did, its called shogi and its better in every way. you can airdrop captured pieces ANYWHERE on the board. hardcore.
it's a shit game and most of the people who became pros at it realized it while saying shit like "oh god I've wasted my life"
it only has this image of "le perfect 200Iq game for geniuses" because it's well known
play something marginally better at least like Go
It is a fun game. you don't have to waste your life learning it. Just play it with your friends and family for fun.
>friends and family for fun.
This doesn't work if one of you even has the slightest knowledge about openings or how to actually play, it stops being fun for both and one of you will get salty.
you can still play with the weaker friends if you hate losing
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I MAY LOOOOOOOOOOOSE NOOOOOO MY VISDYOSLOP DOESN'T LET ME LOOOOOOOSE
Seethe + die late
I wish I were good at it. Still a lot of fun.
Chess does not require skill so its not a fun game. Its one of these games that simply require a lot of mindless memorization, endless practice to stay sharp and a lot of experience. All you need to do to be good at chess is to simply play it all the time.
Full of literal brainlet retards on this thread. Will never make it.
nah fuck that, I don't even need to speak the same language to play chess irl. it's the perfect game for getting to know someone, even if there is a language barrier.
Checkers are superior
My friend plays chess regularly so I obviously never managed to beat him, but with checkers it's 1:1 ratio
chess pieces look better so chess is better
Chess can never be a perfect game because black is always at a disadvantage because white always goes first and black does not get compensated for this in anyway. It's inherently not balanced and can never be so it literally can not be perfect.
When we and friends play, the first person to lose twice in a row loses. Solves that problem.
Except chess competitions play a series of matches where both players play both positions
When you play white you go for a win
When you play black you go for a win or a draw
The winner is generally he who gets the most wins as white and the fewest losses as black
There's nothing wrong with asymmetry inherently
it still doesn't make chess perfect, you are just fixing a problem inherent to the game's design with an external solution. in practice it works but the problem still exists
Fair point, happy to concede
black has enough counterplay to draw theoretically.
so what's the solution?
I think a rule that white can't make a double pawn move until black uses one could help reduce white's potential to control the board without entirely erasing the advantage of having the first move.
Considering that both sides have the same pieces, I don't think it can be balanced 100% perfectly.
That's what you get for making your game Turn-based, or turd-based as I prefer to call it.
Just adapt the game to a Real-time model.
There are no turns. You can take as many moves as you like, but so can your opponent.
it's fine if the sides are asymmetric but in chess both players have the exact same pieces
both players have to make the move at the same time
you could do it using computers, simultaneous chess
you que your move, he does his and then they both happen at the same time
just make both players play each side an equal amount of times
That's literally how this issue has been "fixed" since a long time
What actually makes chess a tedious game is not these extra matches, it's the fact that most matches end in draws
If most matches end in draws, then playing each side doesn't really fix the inherent issues, so the point stands
>it's the fact that most matches end in draws
They should do penalty shootouts when this happens
But they have. For example you pick between 0 to 15 minutes. The player who picks less time gets black pieces and has to only draw to win the game.
some people prefer playing as black. there are plenty of ways to get an advantage against any opponent, this is proven by the GMs winning as black against other GMs. if you think playing as black is boring you are just playing the wrong openings. try the stafford
Higher level players spend days studying this shit
it's beyond an obsession
Fischer random [spoiler]Fog of War[/spoiler] chess is the best format.
It can be made perfecter.
> Turns are planned in secret and occur simultaneously
> Players move three pieces per turn
> The board is resized to accommodate four players
It's too simple to be useful in real life: a mere 8 by 8 grid, no fog of war, no technology tree, no random map or spawn position, only 2 players, both sides exact same pieces, etc.
Polytopia addresses these limitations.
I played polytopia on my Android phone and it was the dullest most brainlet 4X game I've ever played. I'm still mad about this tweet to this day.
I was top tier shitposting because chess players have become bots that fell for the bait
thanks for letting me know
I also now remembered how mush even mentioned this shittiest game on joe rogan experience podcast, jesus christ I hate this rich autist so much
Musk is such a retarded redditor
man this dude is such a tard I hope he kills himself. He burned 40 billion and almost all of tesla stock. He could have single ended the ukraine war with that money in a day and profit from it for the rest of his life. He could have literally ended world hunger. Very likely cure cancer or alzheimer and become even richer thanks to it. No he bought twitter. Literally the most useless thing someone could spend money on. On top of the he made it worse instead of better censoring people left and right. Elon musk is the worlds greatest gay.
Elon is retarded but so are you if you believe all of these to be true, holy shit.
bro 40 billion. The urkaine war didn't even cost that much until now. You are the retard here if you can't grasp the value of money. Holy. Shit.
>man this dude is such a tard I hope he kills himself. He burned 40 billion and almost all of tesla stock
He is developing AI and all of the twitter data greatly aids him in big data needed for it. It's clear it will be either Alphabet or OpenAI to win the AI war and whoever wins, wins everything.
Musk has nothing to do with openAI and all the twitter data got leaked ayyyyylmaooooo
He is one of the investors, what are you talking about?
well can't blame me for not knowing. Wish he wouldn't
Are you fucking dumb? You can't eat money and money doesn't end wars, capitulation does.
tell that all the dead vatmorons who thought they would be in kyiv in 2 days kek
Your other retarded points aside, I can't stand people that feel entitled to rich people's money
It isn't yours gay, worry about your own, why don't you donate shall I tell you to?
i do agree that chess would be better with 3 players instead of two
You mean no castling chess? You're correct.
if you can beat a master using only a vibrating dildo and a reference book it's not a good game
>Chess is the perfect game
60% of high level matches end in draws and white has 10% higher winrate than black
Considering that grand champion couldn't beat the AI super computer, I'm gonna say the game is flawed
There isn't a single vidya challenge that hasn't been beat by a human
unpopular opinion but RTS games need more IQ than chess
I mean...yeah, its a lot more situational reading at a real-time pace compared to a turn-based game, and it requires good execution unlike chess where you only need to move a piece.
for the stone age
More like shit.
So why are people pretending this game is about inteligence and strategy? Maybe for beginers, but after playing it for sometime now I realized there is no intelligence nore strategy in the game. Its all based on pattern recognision and your skill depends on the fact how many patterns you can remember. I lost intrest in the game. I realized I stopped thinking and that Im doing movea from memory...
>I lost intrest in the game. I realized I stopped thinking and that Im doing movea from memory...
Fischer agreed, which is why he came up with randoms as a fix for that issue
Im no where near Fischer. Highest rank I reached is 1800. I just realized that I stopped thinking and that Im just memorising moves so I lost intrest in remembering more moves and stopped playing all together. The game was fun while I was learning since they I did think about my moves.
Chess is a somewhat solved game, but the process of learning it can be challenging and fun. And you need to be intelligent to get good at chest. Which doesn't mean that if you're not good at chess you're stupid. Its not a two way bridges. Its still a very complex game to learn.
At its current "solved" state its just autism-level memorization, not exactly complex
Pure, raw, "stupid" memorization (without understand the reasons why such and such moves are played) would be outclassed by someone that incorporates logic and understanding to their memorization, if that makes sense. Yes, you're going to grind pure memorization either ways, but its all about making it efficient so you can "compress" knowledge in your head.
Thats why I think the game is the best in the begining. I loved it when I started. I got out in the rank 1100 at 1st, but because I sucked I even dropped to 800's. The most fun I had was getting back up and learning how to play. I say that between 800 and 1400 I had the most fun and loved playing it every day for hours. Once I got to 1500 Is the part where I stopped thinking and learning and by the time I reached 1800 I got bored. The game became a routine that I litrraly did while doing something else. I completly stopped thinking. Once I realized that I quit the game.
boxing is solved game too you know
What about ChessBoxing ?!
isn't that the same as beating any video game? it becomes boring after the learning process is over and it becomes memorization. that's ok anon, you beat chess. you had your fun but it's over now.
But no other game has this trope of being High IQ strategy game that if you are good at it means you are a genious. Id fucking argue you have higher IQ by playing OSU then chess. Lmao
>Its all based on pattern recognision
No one tell him what IQ measures
go is even more perfect
Completely dead online except for a few pros. Meanwhile millions play chess including a lot of new players because it's popular unlike Go.
go is too big brain for most people while chess is so easy to understand that the most retarded of humans could play a game
Well, approachability is a factor every game designer needs to think about. Even the dwarf fortress devs figured that out after a couple decades. Go sucks.
yea it's super hard to take turns putting identical stones on a grid
Go is the NPC filter, you can't just memorize the lines, you actually have to think about strategy and tactics and twitter normies can't do that.
The hitboxes are fucked though.
>can't naruto dash past your enemies
It's more like, you naruto dash past your enemy while releasing a fart so foul it instantly kills the enemy ninja behind you.
Chess is retarded, there is literally a rule in chess that if you win too hard it's considered a draw.
If you trap your opponent's king and he can't move but is not directly in check, the game ends and is declared a draw by stalemate.
You have to have no other legal moves, that means all your other pieces are stuck through discovery or anything else. If you fell in that trap you deserved it.
That is not winning too hard though. That is just camping the only open door of the building. Come down and try to capture me if you want.
I saw someone that bragged about his chess skills draw the game that way, it was kino. Shouldn't have thought about letting the other player have a legal move chesslet.
chess is a solved game for plebs who think they are smart. there is zero innovation or dynamic thinking required
Chess is the ultimate babby filter, you are not handed out a win here, go back to inserting shapes into holes.
>chess is a solved game
Stopped reading here
I tried to beat the stupid cat bot with the lowest rating and lost every game. I hate chess.
Poker is the superior game
>Needs grasp of probability
>Needs understanding of table dynamics
>Luck is involved as well
>Different formats and games
Luck is the entire game, anon. Poker has the same skill ceiling as candy land.
Anyone who thinks Poker is just luck is a moron. Luck is a factor but so is it in every sport
>comparing poker to a sport
Except for the morons gambling on it, the only luck involved in sports is the occasional coin flip for who goes first.
Chess is a cucked feminist game. Women didn't do jackshit in battle but somehow the queen is the strongest piece? Fuck off with that shit. The queen's only use should be to shit out a new knight every once in a while.
There is no inherent gender advantage in such games, why are women still inferior? Are women just mentally inferior beings?
Only cucked feminist men think otherwise, and anyway women don't even acknowledge the existence of men they think are inferior. When women think of men they either think of a rich CEO, a skilled tradesman who can fix anything or a rapist that is stronger than themselves, they only recognize the existence of men who are superior, they never think of a poor CEO, a retarded Joe Blow who fails his repair or a twig guy rapist that drugs his victims rather than physically dominating them.
>Sorry, but my pawn has a glock now
What is that bro going to do? Walk away?
>90% reused assets
>female is OP
yeah, nice “game” you have there
If it's so great why is white side still unbalanced?
I dont like it, its boring
They should add cool voicelines, some soundeffects and pretty animations like in Hearthstone
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