Chess is the perfect game

Chess is the perfect game

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And tetris is the perfect video game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sadly underrated fpbp
      I do a 40L sprint at least once every day, tetris is a godly game
      I am now enjoying tetris effect but I also like tertr.io for ez and very quick multiplayer

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lose not because your opponent is better, but because they memorised 500 opening variants
    yeh great game

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. memorylet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've got more important things in my memory, like anime tiddys

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      play bullet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        having memorized openings saves you a ton of time in bullet
        there's no running away from studying and memorizing openings unless you want to never get past 1600

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lose not because your opponent is better, but because they are better

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, this is only a thing of you're 2000+ rated.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        factually incorrect

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Autists don't care about these things. They're not trying to have fun or be good at anything, they simply want to shit on things. Hilariously if they were ACTUALLY autistic they'd probably be amazing at chess since that's basically the reason Carlsen has been so dominant.

        Chess is unironically one of the best designed games in the history of the planet. It's such a simple ruleset but the potential for depth is ridiculous. Next time someone tells you strategy games need fog of war, ask them why chess doesn't need it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you don't care about this... because you don't!
          >also your autistic but wait not actually

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As much as "autism" has come to be a commonplace insult here, there are physical traits connected with the actual condition that you can see in some of the super GMs. Their top lip has the slight appearance of being pushed up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Someone who puts more time into something is better at that thing than someone who doesn't
      Wow

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >play game
      >lose not because your opponent is better, that is impossible, but because he trained more and has more experience
      Shit game wtf let me win

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong, Chess is imperfect because as you climb in skill memorizing openings becomes more and more important until it eats the whole game.

    Fisher Random is the perfect game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one plays Fisher Random, not even you, you just parroting shit to sounds like you know what the fuck you're doing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if chess is such an imperfect game, how come they havent made Chess 2 yet?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They did back in like 910AD but nostalgiafags on 4chisel complained too much about a lack of soul and how the catapult ruined the game and it was forgotten after like a month.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they did, its called shogi and its better in every way. you can airdrop captured pieces ANYWHERE on the board. hardcore.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's a shit game and most of the people who became pros at it realized it while saying shit like "oh god I've wasted my life"
    it only has this image of "le perfect 200Iq game for geniuses" because it's well known
    play something marginally better at least like Go

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is a fun game. you don't have to waste your life learning it. Just play it with your friends and family for fun.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >friends and family for fun.
        This doesn't work if one of you even has the slightest knowledge about openings or how to actually play, it stops being fun for both and one of you will get salty.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can still play with the weaker friends if you hate losing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I MAY LOOOOOOOOOOOSE NOOOOOO MY VISDYOSLOP DOESN'T LET ME LOOOOOOOSE
          Seethe + die late

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish I were good at it. Still a lot of fun.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess does not require skill so its not a fun game. Its one of these games that simply require a lot of mindless memorization, endless practice to stay sharp and a lot of experience. All you need to do to be good at chess is to simply play it all the time.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Full of literal brainlet retards on this thread. Will never make it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah fuck that, I don't even need to speak the same language to play chess irl. it's the perfect game for getting to know someone, even if there is a language barrier.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Checkers are superior
    My friend plays chess regularly so I obviously never managed to beat him, but with checkers it's 1:1 ratio

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      chess pieces look better so chess is better

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess can never be a perfect game because black is always at a disadvantage because white always goes first and black does not get compensated for this in anyway. It's inherently not balanced and can never be so it literally can not be perfect.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When we and friends play, the first person to lose twice in a row loses. Solves that problem.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except chess competitions play a series of matches where both players play both positions
      When you play white you go for a win
      When you play black you go for a win or a draw
      The winner is generally he who gets the most wins as white and the fewest losses as black
      There's nothing wrong with asymmetry inherently

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it still doesn't make chess perfect, you are just fixing a problem inherent to the game's design with an external solution. in practice it works but the problem still exists

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fair point, happy to concede

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      black has enough counterplay to draw theoretically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      so what's the solution?

      I think a rule that white can't make a double pawn move until black uses one could help reduce white's potential to control the board without entirely erasing the advantage of having the first move.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering that both sides have the same pieces, I don't think it can be balanced 100% perfectly.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's what you get for making your game Turn-based, or turd-based as I prefer to call it.
          Just adapt the game to a Real-time model.
          There are no turns. You can take as many moves as you like, but so can your opponent.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's fine if the sides are asymmetric but in chess both players have the exact same pieces

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        both players have to make the move at the same time
        you could do it using computers, simultaneous chess
        you que your move, he does his and then they both happen at the same time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just make both players play each side an equal amount of times
      That's literally how this issue has been "fixed" since a long time

      What actually makes chess a tedious game is not these extra matches, it's the fact that most matches end in draws

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If most matches end in draws, then playing each side doesn't really fix the inherent issues, so the point stands

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's the fact that most matches end in draws
        They should do penalty shootouts when this happens

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But they have. For example you pick between 0 to 15 minutes. The player who picks less time gets black pieces and has to only draw to win the game.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some people prefer playing as black. there are plenty of ways to get an advantage against any opponent, this is proven by the GMs winning as black against other GMs. if you think playing as black is boring you are just playing the wrong openings. try the stafford

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Higher level players spend days studying this shit
    it's beyond an obsession

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fischer random [spoiler]Fog of War[/spoiler] chess is the best format.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It can be made perfecter.
    > Turns are planned in secret and occur simultaneously
    > Players move three pieces per turn
    > The board is resized to accommodate four players

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's too simple to be useful in real life: a mere 8 by 8 grid, no fog of war, no technology tree, no random map or spawn position, only 2 players, both sides exact same pieces, etc.

    Polytopia addresses these limitations.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Outdated.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played polytopia on my Android phone and it was the dullest most brainlet 4X game I've ever played. I'm still mad about this tweet to this day.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was top tier shitposting because chess players have become bots that fell for the bait

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for letting me know
          I also now remembered how mush even mentioned this shittiest game on joe rogan experience podcast, jesus christ I hate this rich autist so much

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Musk is such a retarded redditor

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      man this dude is such a tard I hope he kills himself. He burned 40 billion and almost all of tesla stock. He could have single ended the ukraine war with that money in a day and profit from it for the rest of his life. He could have literally ended world hunger. Very likely cure cancer or alzheimer and become even richer thanks to it. No he bought twitter. Literally the most useless thing someone could spend money on. On top of the he made it worse instead of better censoring people left and right. Elon musk is the worlds greatest gay.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Elon is retarded but so are you if you believe all of these to be true, holy shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bro 40 billion. The urkaine war didn't even cost that much until now. You are the retard here if you can't grasp the value of money. Holy. Shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >man this dude is such a tard I hope he kills himself. He burned 40 billion and almost all of tesla stock
        He is developing AI and all of the twitter data greatly aids him in big data needed for it. It's clear it will be either Alphabet or OpenAI to win the AI war and whoever wins, wins everything.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Musk has nothing to do with openAI and all the twitter data got leaked ayyyyylmaooooo

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He is one of the investors, what are you talking about?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >today
              well can't blame me for not knowing. Wish he wouldn't

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you fucking dumb? You can't eat money and money doesn't end wars, capitulation does.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tell that all the dead vatmorons who thought they would be in kyiv in 2 days kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your other retarded points aside, I can't stand people that feel entitled to rich people's money

        It isn't yours gay, worry about your own, why don't you donate shall I tell you to?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i do agree that chess would be better with 3 players instead of two

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >elon musk

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You mean no castling chess? You're correct.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you can beat a master using only a vibrating dildo and a reference book it's not a good game

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Chess is the perfect game
    60% of high level matches end in draws and white has 10% higher winrate than black

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering that grand champion couldn't beat the AI super computer, I'm gonna say the game is flawed

    There isn't a single vidya challenge that hasn't been beat by a human

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unpopular opinion but RTS games need more IQ than chess

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean...yeah, its a lot more situational reading at a real-time pace compared to a turn-based game, and it requires good execution unlike chess where you only need to move a piece.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for the stone age

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More like shit.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why are people pretending this game is about inteligence and strategy? Maybe for beginers, but after playing it for sometime now I realized there is no intelligence nore strategy in the game. Its all based on pattern recognision and your skill depends on the fact how many patterns you can remember. I lost intrest in the game. I realized I stopped thinking and that Im doing movea from memory...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I lost intrest in the game. I realized I stopped thinking and that Im doing movea from memory...
      Fischer agreed, which is why he came up with randoms as a fix for that issue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fischer agreed
        Im no where near Fischer. Highest rank I reached is 1800. I just realized that I stopped thinking and that Im just memorising moves so I lost intrest in remembering more moves and stopped playing all together. The game was fun while I was learning since they I did think about my moves.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Chess is a somewhat solved game, but the process of learning it can be challenging and fun. And you need to be intelligent to get good at chest. Which doesn't mean that if you're not good at chess you're stupid. Its not a two way bridges. Its still a very complex game to learn.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            At its current "solved" state its just autism-level memorization, not exactly complex

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pure, raw, "stupid" memorization (without understand the reasons why such and such moves are played) would be outclassed by someone that incorporates logic and understanding to their memorization, if that makes sense. Yes, you're going to grind pure memorization either ways, but its all about making it efficient so you can "compress" knowledge in your head.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thats why I think the game is the best in the begining. I loved it when I started. I got out in the rank 1100 at 1st, but because I sucked I even dropped to 800's. The most fun I had was getting back up and learning how to play. I say that between 800 and 1400 I had the most fun and loved playing it every day for hours. Once I got to 1500 Is the part where I stopped thinking and learning and by the time I reached 1800 I got bored. The game became a routine that I litrraly did while doing something else. I completly stopped thinking. Once I realized that I quit the game.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            boxing is solved game too you know

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What about ChessBoxing ?!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't that the same as beating any video game? it becomes boring after the learning process is over and it becomes memorization. that's ok anon, you beat chess. you had your fun but it's over now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But no other game has this trope of being High IQ strategy game that if you are good at it means you are a genious. Id fucking argue you have higher IQ by playing OSU then chess. Lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Its all based on pattern recognision
      No one tell him what IQ measures

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    go is even more perfect

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Completely dead online except for a few pros. Meanwhile millions play chess including a lot of new players because it's popular unlike Go.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go is too big brain for most people while chess is so easy to understand that the most retarded of humans could play a game

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, approachability is a factor every game designer needs to think about. Even the dwarf fortress devs figured that out after a couple decades. Go sucks.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yea it's super hard to take turns putting identical stones on a grid

            Go is the NPC filter, you can't just memorize the lines, you actually have to think about strategy and tactics and twitter normies can't do that.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The hitboxes are fucked though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >can't naruto dash past your enemies
      based

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's more like, you naruto dash past your enemy while releasing a fart so foul it instantly kills the enemy ninja behind you.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess is retarded, there is literally a rule in chess that if you win too hard it's considered a draw.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you trap your opponent's king and he can't move but is not directly in check, the game ends and is declared a draw by stalemate.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You have to have no other legal moves, that means all your other pieces are stuck through discovery or anything else. If you fell in that trap you deserved it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That is not winning too hard though. That is just camping the only open door of the building. Come down and try to capture me if you want.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I saw someone that bragged about his chess skills draw the game that way, it was kino. Shouldn't have thought about letting the other player have a legal move chesslet.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chess is a solved game for plebs who think they are smart. there is zero innovation or dynamic thinking required

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chess is the ultimate babby filter, you are not handed out a win here, go back to inserting shapes into holes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chess is a solved game
      Stopped reading here

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried to beat the stupid cat bot with the lowest rating and lost every game. I hate chess.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poker is the superior game
    >Imperfect knowledge
    >Needs grasp of probability
    >Needs understanding of table dynamics
    >Luck is involved as well
    >High skates
    >Different formats and games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >high skates
      Luck is the entire game, anon. Poker has the same skill ceiling as candy land.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who thinks Poker is just luck is a moron. Luck is a factor but so is it in every sport

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >every sport
          >comparing poker to a sport
          Except for the morons gambling on it, the only luck involved in sports is the occasional coin flip for who goes first.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess is a cucked feminist game. Women didn't do jackshit in battle but somehow the queen is the strongest piece? Fuck off with that shit. The queen's only use should be to shit out a new knight every once in a while.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poker is the superior game
      >Imperfect knowledge
      >Needs grasp of probability
      >Needs understanding of table dynamics
      >Luck is involved as well
      >High skates
      >Different formats and games

      There is no inherent gender advantage in such games, why are women still inferior? Are women just mentally inferior beings?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are.
        Only cucked feminist men think otherwise, and anyway women don't even acknowledge the existence of men they think are inferior. When women think of men they either think of a rich CEO, a skilled tradesman who can fix anything or a rapist that is stronger than themselves, they only recognize the existence of men who are superior, they never think of a poor CEO, a retarded Joe Blow who fails his repair or a twig guy rapist that drugs his victims rather than physically dominating them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sorry, but my pawn has a glock now
    What is that bro going to do? Walk away?

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >limited movesets
    >zero customization
    >no story
    >90% reused assets
    >female is OP
    yeah, nice “game” you have there

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it's so great why is white side still unbalanced?

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dont like it, its boring
    They should add cool voicelines, some soundeffects and pretty animations like in Hearthstone

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