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Never played it. What went wrong?
It's just like civ VI only somehow even worse than the aspects of Civ VI at which that game was the worst
shit ai/shit difficulty/shit and boring 1x city building mechanics/shit techs/shit everything
The key gimmick was that you'd switch civilizations multiple times mid-game, but it was horribly implimented because it just made you feel no close connection to your civ when you go from the egyptians to the romans to the germans to the japanese to the americans at the drop of a hat.
>The key gimmick was that you'd switch civilizations multiple times mid-game, but it was horribly implimented because short from 1-2 civs each era, everything else is utter trash and short from self-imposed challenge there is no reason to pick them
Ftfy
Also: thanks for telling everyone you never even played the game, but still have strong opinion about it.
i played the game that anon is not wrong
i hated being the Babylonians one second and then polish in a couple hours
>Babylonians one second and then polish
Humankind lacks Sarmatians and I hate it
I think it doesn't even have Scythians. For a game that tries to be so woke, I thought they were gonna at least put some 'amazon' horse archers somewhere. Buncha gays I tell ya
>switch civilizations
Before the game came out I honestly thought that it would've been like, you can go from romans to italians or neo-romans, or combine with other civilizations. Don't know why they thought immersion breaking civilization swapping was a good idea.
who thought that was a good idea?
The studio known for their wacky lore and asymmetrical mechanics made a game where they couldn't do either of those things
they think the Zulus can beat the Romans at any point in history
they actually can tho
irl especially
The Zulu’s would have been crushed by a legion of comparable size. The Zulu’s signature tactic that beat the other neighboring tribes was simply to flank them, and use melee spears, when before the tribes just threw dinky little spears at each other.
The zulus also were much more genocidal than their neighbors, and would massacre them, instead of just forcing them to be subservient, like had previously been happening, which lead to less rebellions and constantly having to backtrack to deal with them instead of constantly expanding.
The zulus are a meme only because they managed to overwhelm a British regiment what was poorly lead, and was outnumbered 10-30 to 1.
They actually CAN NOT though, irl especially, because we've already run that simulation and Roman Empire took over the entire world while zulus continued to gather and feed on their dingleberries in the same few hundred squared miles their ancestors left them in thousands of years ago.
Africans have not advanced past their primitive beginnings at all and you comparing them to the most advanced and fearsome military machine on earth is not naive - it's illiteracy and extremely poorly thought-out argument.
Where did you get your education?
meanwhile irl Romans got defeated in the west by naked snowchimps and in the east by illiterate goat-frickers
Both those groups were far more advanced than the Zulu.
For one thing, they had armor, and their load outs were tbh on par with the romans they defeated
>their load outs were tbh on par with the romans they defeated
God I hate zommers
The Islamic turks, unlike their modern counterparts, were relativly well read and their leader wanted to usurp the mantle of r*me.
The Germanics had fought both against and for the romans for centuries at that point, they were not naked, nor ignorant about r*me's ways.
muslims LARPing as romans was always the funniest shit
you homies literally came from the desert/steppe out of nowhere and now you wanna pretend to be romans?
They didn't LARP as Romans, they conquered the Roman heartlands of the time and then declared themselves rulers of the Romans, which was technically true. Germans were the ones who actually LARPed as Romans, as Voltaire pointed out.
>sultanate of rum
Sounds like roman larp to me brother
That's your problem. It was a sultanate that ruled over Roman lands and Roman people. They never referred to themselves as Romans, they always referred to the people they ruled over as Romans.
Voltaire (not the singer, the other one) was a moron, and it was Charlymayne and the pope that started the larp. The Germans just had the intelligence to hold on to the title until Napoopan sperged out.
>Charlymayne
*Karl der Große
Karl Magne*
Karel de Grote was Dutch, he came from the swamp to rule Europa
I Fricking Love History too bros!!!
did you fricking wait to post this just so you could get quads you cretin
what
i never heard of muslims larping as romans
i mean i heard people say that byzantium is the same as the ottoman empire which is kind of true but i never heard of that larping thing you mention
whats your favourite epic era in history?? mine is the epic castle ages because there was plenty of badass and epic battles and wars like the crusades xD whats your favourite political ideology have you heard of political compass
have a nice day.
>noooo you can't enjoy historical trivia that's bad and reddit!!!
Whiny little fricking b***h.
Search for Sultanate of Rum. Though it was less wewuz and more we're the Romans now, at least at the beginning.
The Roman empire literally had more soliders at any given time then the total population of the Zulu kingdom under shaka.
You see the romans made heavy use of pilums, and the Zulus specialised in mogging spear chuckers.
Nothing, and you're a Nazi if you want to connect with your civ in any way.
nobody said that
You weren't here for the previous Humankind thread, were you?
There was someone genuinely arguing that, and that you're not allowed to complain about the game's quality because of worthless philosophical garbage
nope, not me
Lurk moar, homosexual.
>you're a Nazi
is that a bad thing?
You select historical nations with no actual connection to any historical nations. Like you can be the franks one era, then choose some other nation while some other nation chooses the french. You can be the english and later face the british, and so on. the nations aren't nations, they're just bonuses you can collect on your way through time.
basically kills all immersion.
Also because the only thing that the nations had that mattered was their bonuses, there's always a flowchart for each era. there are bonuse that are always better than other bonuses for that era. there is always a right way to play and it doesn't change between games because you don't play a nation. you play a changeling that can be the exact same every single game. There is no I played as Germany this game so I want to play as the Aztecs next game. There is just I went b z y x e l last game and it was strong so I'm going b z y x e l this game to be strong.
so it kills replayability as well.
they also added in a moronic global warming mechanic that was extremely overtuned. because frick you for trying to use anything we give you late game.
>You select historical nations with no actual connection to any historical nations
>the only thing that the nations had that mattered was their bonuses
Just like Civ then but with Civ you get to choose one soulless skin per game and with humanshit you get to change it
The fact that anyone plays any of these shitters while paradox games are available blows my mind
Ah yes paradox games where the only real differentoating factor is starting position, every nation plays the same, and the game consists of waiting around at 5x speed for something to happen, clicking once or twice, and then going back to waiting for something to happen
As others have stated, the central conceit of the game is to start as a wandering tribe with no sense of identity, then over generations found one of the many well-known ancient cultures such as the Babylonians or Assyrians, and from there develop further. It's a very interesting ideal, but it is implemented in such a poor way along with other gameplay mechanics that the game is essentially broken at the base level:
1.) The cultures are heavily, heavily unbalanced. For 90% of the game, you are racing to reach the finish line to pick a builder culture. This is because movement to the next era and ultimately victory in the game is decided primarily by gaining fame stars in a number of ways, whether it is building cities, researching technologies, reaching a certain population level, etc. The issue is that all of these essentially draw back to production as a bottleneck. Not sure how they've updated it but this was a huge fricking problem originally.
2.) The continuum of change from ancient to more modern civilizations has no basis at all. The Olmecs can become the Egyptians can become the English can become the Turks. The only identification you can use is that of color, nothing else matters. The entire base of the game is pointless, instead of organically changing to civs from one geographic or cultural baseline you just morph into another and take their moniker. It's schizophrenic as frick and by the end of the game you just know everyone as the guy to the north of me, blue, whoever the frick that is.
3.) The entire gameplay loop of this game as the basest level is just totally broken. It would take me several posts to iron it out but this is not something that can possibly be fixed by updates. The core mechanics of the game are just absolutely broken, unfun garbage. I honestly think you should pirate the game and try it if only so you can possibly explain for me in an easier way other than to say it is just incredibly boring and incredibly broken.
communists
French
It's a civ clone, so it's boring shit.
I just want a proper modern iteration of the good old 4x genre like picrelated was for its time
is it really THAT much to ask? Would civ iv really truly be too complicated for the normalgay's brain to comprehend?
;(
Civ 4 wasn't complicated by any measure.
it was compared to civ vi
in civ vi all you have to do is have the 85 iq required to play the city building puzzle game and you'll outperform any ai the mid game
dont even get me started how the civ iv ->civ v military cahnges have killed most of AI's capability to occupy human players country
I like 4 and 6. They're different, but 4 doesn't take a genius. I was playing that perfectly fine as an underage b& back in the day. 4 basically boiled down to 'farm, mine, or village?' worker choices, and the stacks could get crazy if a billion units were camped out on one city. It wasn't perfect, even if it was the best civ title.
yeah 4 got boring as soon as you figured out one death-stack can solo any AI.
Yes but the ai actually works in IV. I have gotten into wars with AI allies against humans and despite having tons of troops, the ai refuses to attack.
I've played it a few times, even dipped my toes into some of the mods. The only hard part was sizing up the stacks, and even that's something that comes with famiilarity.
Civ 4 fanboys really can't stand on a vaccuum.
Always gotta find a shittier game to feel better.
It's not even about the player but about the developer. Any dev worth their salt runs away from crunch heavy, thankless gamedev to tech.
t. was never a game dev but know few workmates who used to be
bleak.
Civ 4 was already a dumbed down Civ 3, made more accessible for normies of its time
Yeah, but honestly civ3 was really overtly secretive about its vast array of features, and I would wager my soul that half of the people who played civ 3 never even knew about shit like the despotism yield penalty. Civ4 was definitely a step-up in UI and streamlining, and was much easier to grasp without having to read a game manual the size of a novel, like in civ3
>t. zoomers larping as hardcore oldgays
Both of those games are on par with Civ 2 when it comes to complexity, and that means they have none.
Said that, Civ clones are always genuinely easier than actual Civ games, because chances are, whatever new idea or mechanics they will introduce will provide a massive edge to the player. The reason why AI in Civ 2-4 was capable of giving player hard time was not due the fact it cheated or that it was good, but because it had fewer options to pick and that made it more "focused". The second Civ 5 introduced 1upt, AI literally shat itself, because nobody even considered writing scripts to make that shit work, allowing complete human domination, along with making melee units obsolete the second you can recruit first archer unit.
>Both of those games are on par with Civ 2 when it comes to complexity
t. never played the series
shut the frick up homosexual
There is a good chance I was playing Civ games before you were born, but come on, keep posturing how hardcore you are.
Neither Civ 3 nor 4 is difficult or hard to grasp to anyone who had ANY prior exposure to Civ. In fact, I'd argue Civ 3 is genuinely easier to get into blind than 4, because you don't even need to understand vast majority of mechanics to be successful at it, whereas you can forget playing higher difficulties in 4 without understanding what various policies, options and units do EXACTLY.
And they are still perfectly comparable with Civ 2, because the main deviation is how technology is grouped (the hard-coded eras and minimal research time from 3, both introduced to mitigate the caravans from 2 and both hated by just about anyone) and how government works (the half-baked civics from 4, which are a far cry of social policies of SMAC and so unbalanced, if you aren't whipping, you are losing)
>the half-baked civics from 4, which are a far cry of social policies of SMAC and so unbalanced, if you aren't whipping, you are losing
Losing against who, other players? Because the AI in Civ 4 does none of the advanced tactics and generally sucks at even the basic ones. Watch any Civ 4 playthrough by a person decent at the game and you'll find them often commenting at the stupid shit the AI does and how easy it is to snowball ahead of them.
>Watch people playing
>Instead of playing it yourself
Zoomers gonna zoom
And there is a solid chance I was playing Civ 4 when you were a fricking toddler.
>Scots
>Industrial Era culture
Incredibly forced. You could fit the muh FREEEEEDOOOOOOM faction in the Mediaeval era but they already have British as a culture in the same era.
Being diplo focused also makes zero sense.
Just incredibly forced like the African and Latin American/native American ones.
Yes.
>really truly be too complicated for the normalgay's brain to comprehend
Amplitude games are fricking overcomplicated and Civ6 has too much going on for a normie to grasp.
Yet they make these games and not something more appealing and easier that even a CPU opponent could be programmed to play.
Why does she look like a drunken tramp?
>scots
>DIPLOMACY HELPS PREVENT THIRD WORLD WAR
>Women shakes Black folks hand
at least they didnt outright call out Putler in this one (they did in their dev diaries though)
then again between having Black feminists in charge of my countrys cultural policy and having a moronic cleptocrat like Putin, i'd take schizofeminists everry time
its even just the headline itself, which is hilariously moronic. The fact that of course its a woman and a black man who saved the world with diplomacy makes it that much better
tbh i can totally buy that headline if it's from one of those newspapers targeting our lesser sub 90 iq friends like the sun or the New York post or the like
The fact that you think that the schizofeminists aren't also cleptocrats is hillarious.
yeah moron the bluehairs in your EPIC SJWS REKT compilations you’re addicted to are the same people plundering our countries and ensuring you’re a dumb drone for the rest of your life. get a clue lol
Who do you think runs and work in the charities that gets all the money from your cleptocrat in chief? Just look at the Black Lives don't Matter mansions and coruption scandals.
Plenty of those blue hairs have made it to middle management, HR, and political parties since the 10's. Just because that made it to the very top don't have bright dyed hair, nor talk about the gayborhood, and don't screem at the top of their lungs in your parliament 24/7, doesn't mean that they don't exist, and aren't diverting as much money as they can to themselves and their money laundering causes.
You are talking about dumb drones, yet you seem to be one of the worst of them yourself.
Yes they are, braindead amerimutt, your failed education is clearly the proof of it.
I mean the cleptocrats love recruiting the most pychopathically self-serving people from various social groups and the blue hairs have plenty at the top of their ranks, but they aren't exactly synonomous.
I don’t understand, are you saying diplomacy does not prevent conflict?
It does, but normies like to believe it's something only the "Good guys" do while ignoring the fact that diplomatic deals like the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact also exist
Have you played the new update?
alright, there is like 5 people on this board
so which one of you is responsible for those humankind threads? we get it the game is absolute doodoo garbage shit frick
why do you keep posting about it? is it so you can always have a way of sneaking in a thread to seethe about politics and whatnot? are you paid shills? are you really just angry?
i hate nu-civ though
i hate humankind as well
So anyone discussing a video game on a video game board is shilling for that video game? You are a moron.
It's not a video game, it's multikulti propaganda parading as video game.
From lets plays i've seem of it the drafting/recruiting mechanic loolked pretty good. Maybe it played like ass but it seemed like a decent way to do manpower.
Make another Endless you fricking Frenchoid homosexuals
... why are they even making DLC for this game?
Serious question. At this point it would be genuinely cheaper to cut support than pretend they can bounce back.
Blackrock money keeps them afloat
Again - why wasting money on maintaining a sinkhole. That game objectively failed. Not due to any of the reasons that /vst/ obsess about, but it did fail and isn't making any real money, neither now nor during premiere.
So why making DLC at this point? I kinda get early on, when they still hoped for bounce back and there were still people that would buy it due to novelty factor alone... but that's gone.
Endless Legend 2 died for this steaming pile of shit.
Are Endless games worth to play?
And nothing of value was lost
Space is fine
Space 2 is literally electric boogaloo, but if you start with it, it's probably fine
Legend is just Fall From Heaven knock-off, and not particularly good one, carried entirely on gimmick mechanics.
Pro-tip: those games aren't popular for their gameplay, but for lore and similar shit. Which is part of the reason why Humankind was such a mis-aim: all the standard problems of Amplitude games, NONE of their strengths, for everything is bland to the fault.
>Space 2 is literally electric boogaloo
Wdym? Should I try it?
>Zoomer speaks zoomer speak, while not knowing what electric boogaloo is
Filtered
let me guess, "it's a meme you dip"?
endless legend is very good youre just bad at enjoying it
I would agree in that it is essentially Fall From Heaven with worse AI and less features, but it's arguably prettier and more easy to get into. I still have no idea how the FFH modders managed to get AI that good.
>someone always makes this thread
Here's a bump, kind shitposter.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>claim to be the next best thing
>turns out you're shit
>get made fun of
WAAAAAAAAAH! MOM, THE MEANIES ON Ganker ARE AT IT AGAIN!
How is any of this related to that to post you replied to?
Imo Humankind made history look too candyassed
>release game in a completely broken state
>charge 50 shekels for it
>make no effort to fix the game
>shit out a zero effort dlc every 4 months, which is 90% black kangz and woman power
Just WHAT did they mean by this? Are these really the same people that made the endless games?
If I wasn't lazy I would go check who was hired/fired/left during the last few years. Amplitude got bigger, I'm sure woke-rot infested them and this is the result.
>I didn't check out shit
>But I will still post bullshit anyway
The reason why they are doing it like this is much, much easier:
They've got a target audience they are aiming at. It's simple business decision, why the frick it's always such a drama all over the net when specific product is made for specific crowd and rest of the net goes pants on heads moronic as result?
Why would they target women and minorities when straight white men are 90% of their customers?
the only good civilizations type game is that endless space 2 that offers different mechanics for different civilizations, the rest, including CIV games, are shit, with the only remotelly interesting being the 4 game.
It didn't need to be 'successful', by only releasing it they already had good $$ from blackrock esg.