>Enemies kill you in 3 to 4 hits on hard leaving you no room to juggle, combo or improvise >Enemies can interrupt your attacks >0/10 level design, it's literally just corridos, way more linear than ff13 >sidequests are just repeated main story levels >terrible graphics >strength builds are still broken
The amount of cope pc gamers go through trying to convince themselves SOP is better than ff16 and rebirth just because it's on pc
The only build I have that works and isn't getting me killed on Bahamuth 400 VIII difficulty (I have yet to do start the rift dlc took a break) is with Axe and Berserker, is there anything else that works as good as that? Cause I honestly dont get how any other weapon/class can do as much damage by also not being killed as easely.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Damage-wise, it's kind of hard to match axe - that thing is designed to chunk, and it chunks hard. Greatsword has great survivability and decent damage, but if you can manage your footwork well enough, knuckles smash up monsters in a hurry.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
like I am eating wiener at fighting fricking captain Bickey on 400 bahamuth with Trials at VIII, exept if I am using berseker Axe which in that case, I stack up buffs with the second class and then three shot the fricker dead. It got pretty boring.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Typical noob build. Never learned the game
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
not him but nobody balanced this game. There are a ton of ways to break it.
>JUST DONT CHOOSE TO BE OVERPOWERED
Yea and you get webm related, not including bahamut trials.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's how I play this game. Don't complain about one shotting a boss.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then how do you climb the rift?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
By playing the same way. You don't need cheese build to climb the rift.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it already takes long for me to climb with my op build, I don't wanna waste my time any further
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Axe has the best raw numbers, but most channeled or charged abilities, among others, have gamebreaking potential regardless of weapon type
like I am eating wiener at fighting fricking captain Bickey on 400 bahamuth with Trials at VIII, exept if I am using berseker Axe which in that case, I stack up buffs with the second class and then three shot the fricker dead. It got pretty boring.
If you're looking to still interact normally without getting blown up instantly for a frickup, you probably want to play something like sword and shield paladin, and/or consider defensive buffs like Sentinel and Utsusemi so one mistake isn't death.
>replying to bait
you don't know the absolute state of square shitnix until you realise that fricking crisis core is a better ff game and better ff7 related game than a demake and shit like this just keeps happening
the game is hard because Jack trusts you enough to be up the challenge so you can defeat CHAOS at his perfect form with no issues. don't let Jack down.
this is why I couldn't play it. My processor temps went sky high whenever this game was running. I liked the game too, a shame they didn't optimize it properly
Nah. Other AAA games with way demanding visuals didn't have this problem. Like someone already said this actually looked like a PS3 game, it had no reason being like this.
nioh 2 kind of has the normal combo > special move thing that stranger has
nioh 2 isn't quite the anime combo fest that stranger is though. it's a bit more grounded
>wish SoP had a better balance though, jobs are too happy to go from broken as hell to utter dogshit with barely any inbetween
Sometimes they're both! Blue Mage sucks dick most of the time, but one or 2 spells are good enough to make cheesy broken builds for people who don't care about having fun anymore
Team Ninja's worst game. I will never forgive Ganker for gaslighting me about A) this game supposedly being good and B) Wo Long supposedly being bad. you guys have garbage taste.
good, both squenix and team ninja can't produce anything competent anymore
But Wo Long is their worst Nioh-like? Its doesnt mean its bad at all, stop being such an overdramatic homosexual. SoP is great, sounds like you got filtered. Also, Rise of the Ronin is amazingly fun, still not Nioh 2 or NGB, but its mostly a step in the right direction
>wo long is a mid game that ran like absolute ass until israelite devs shat out all the dlc
Mid isnt bad though? I still enjoyed Wo Long for what it is. On the other hand, Ronin is fricking great. Sounds like you cant even play the latter, so your opinion doesnt matter
Postgame genuinely made me dislike it. I hate it when rpg shit overtakes action games man. People got mad about it but I’m glad XVI got rid of all the rpg shit.
>Shield Bash is essentially a cancel, parry and combo extender in one button press.
I can just imagine how easy it would be to rape bosses with shield bash into ability into shield bash.
This makes me wish I didn't write off Shield Bash immediately for not being a buff.
Didn't use sword (or mace) much, is it known what makes Shield Charge sometimes not do damage after parrying with it? I remember being annoyed a few times by being right up in a boss's face with nothing happening.
It has some things like stances and ki from Nioh but with a greater emphasis on parry like Wo Long, except the timing is even more strict. As for waifus there aren't many since it's more focused on husbandos.
Team Ninja doesn't understand initiative, so any job is reduced to parry or dodge whenever the boss attacks you in any way. A job system is pointless when a Greatsword plays like dual daggers
But how does that change the fact that Team Ninja doesn't understand initiative, making weapon variety effectively worthless since there's no discernible variety of hit reaction for your arsenal?
Does spear get any better jobs later on? I like the core moveset of the weapon but i'm not FFbrained enough to think having a job skill dedicated to a jump attack is cool and interesting.
game sold so bad Nomura was begging people to tell 10 of their friends about it. it's dead anon. good things never last because consoomers are fricking morons and swoon over the biggest trash available in the market.
Greatsword is probably your best defensive option due to having extended parry windows on guard cancels. Makes shields look rather silly in comparison.
>Enemies kill you in 3 to 4 hits on hard leaving you no room to juggle, combo or improvise
>Enemies can interrupt your attacks
>0/10 level design, it's literally just corridos, way more linear than ff13
>sidequests are just repeated main story levels
>terrible graphics
>strength builds are still broken
The amount of cope pc gamers go through trying to convince themselves SOP is better than ff16 and rebirth just because it's on pc
KEK
>no room to juggle, combo, or improvise
HOLY SKILL ISSUE
This. CC all day
the frick is CC?
>He doesn't CC
Lmfao
The only build I have that works and isn't getting me killed on Bahamuth 400 VIII difficulty (I have yet to do start the rift dlc took a break) is with Axe and Berserker, is there anything else that works as good as that? Cause I honestly dont get how any other weapon/class can do as much damage by also not being killed as easely.
Damage-wise, it's kind of hard to match axe - that thing is designed to chunk, and it chunks hard. Greatsword has great survivability and decent damage, but if you can manage your footwork well enough, knuckles smash up monsters in a hurry.
like I am eating wiener at fighting fricking captain Bickey on 400 bahamuth with Trials at VIII, exept if I am using berseker Axe which in that case, I stack up buffs with the second class and then three shot the fricker dead. It got pretty boring.
Typical noob build. Never learned the game
not him but nobody balanced this game. There are a ton of ways to break it.
>JUST DONT CHOOSE TO BE OVERPOWERED
Yea and you get webm related, not including bahamut trials.
That's how I play this game. Don't complain about one shotting a boss.
then how do you climb the rift?
By playing the same way. You don't need cheese build to climb the rift.
it already takes long for me to climb with my op build, I don't wanna waste my time any further
Axe has the best raw numbers, but most channeled or charged abilities, among others, have gamebreaking potential regardless of weapon type
If you're looking to still interact normally without getting blown up instantly for a frickup, you probably want to play something like sword and shield paladin, and/or consider defensive buffs like Sentinel and Utsusemi so one mistake isn't death.
crowd control
Chain cancel you pleb
are just repeated main story levels
so just like nioh?
>enemies are a threat and don't just stand there like target dummies while you jack yourself off
oh god, the horror
I haven't played Rebirth but Stranger of Paradise was significantly better than XVI.
IMO Rebirth>SoP>16>Remake
>replying to bait
you don't know the absolute state of square shitnix until you realise that fricking crisis core is a better ff game and better ff7 related game than a demake and shit like this just keeps happening
kill you in 3 to 4 hits on hard leaving you no room to juggle, combo or improvise
can interrupt your attacks
HAHAHAHA homosexual
People forgot how to play the game?
>mindrotted JRPGgay trying to critique gameplay
lol, lmao even
all of the levels are homages to previous final fantasy games.
the game is hard because Jack trusts you enough to be up the challenge so you can defeat CHAOS at his perfect form with no issues. don't let Jack down.
I beat the game in Hard first time I played through
Skill issue, git gud
First post cringe post.
>runs like absolute fricking rancid dogshit on everything unless you win the hardware lottery
>while looking like a mid-life PS3 game
Sop reminds me of a cheap ass remaster of a psp game, that's how bad the level design is
>>runs like absolute fricking rancid dogshit on everything unless you win the hardware lottery
works on my machine you broke gay
>he thinks throwing money at it fixes it
the game legit runs worse on newer hardware you dumb fricking ape
don't buy newer hardware then tard
works great for me on 5900x and 3060ti
not true
>implying i spent money just for this game
i like video games and i'm not poor so i have a good pc, simple as
this is why I couldn't play it. My processor temps went sky high whenever this game was running. I liked the game too, a shame they didn't optimize it properly
throw your gen 4 shitel into the trash where it belongs
Nah. Other AAA games with way demanding visuals didn't have this problem. Like someone already said this actually looked like a PS3 game, it had no reason being like this.
cope poortard
your toaster is trash and nobody is mandated to make sure their games will run on it
sure, whatever makes you happy moron
He's right, upgrade your fricking PC and stop thinking everything is going to run on your 10 year old hardware.
damn dude can you stop samegayging, we get it, you're poor
Get a better cooler
I love Stranger of Paradise, but as far as Nioh combat goes I'm only familiar with Nioh 1, how does SOP compare to Nioh 2?
nioh 2 kind of has the normal combo > special move thing that stranger has
nioh 2 isn't quite the anime combo fest that stranger is though. it's a bit more grounded
nioh 2 is closer to nioh than SOP is
Stop praising bad games just because the mc is a meme you braindead moron.
inb4 >t. chaos
It’s not the MC that I like though
Bikke and Astos are the MVPs
I can't understand how contrarian this board is that they think sop is a good game lmao, what kind of mental illness is this???
Is it just contrarianism because "le woke journalists" didn't like it?
>the best Final Fantasy in years.
is this supposed to be impressive? last good final fantasy game was in fricking 2006
wish SoP had a better balance though, jobs are too happy to go from broken as hell to utter dogshit with barely any inbetween
IZJS or base 12? zodiac re-release is way too easy
>wish SoP had a better balance though, jobs are too happy to go from broken as hell to utter dogshit with barely any inbetween
Sometimes they're both! Blue Mage sucks dick most of the time, but one or 2 spells are good enough to make cheesy broken builds for people who don't care about having fun anymore
673609341
i'm gonna kill (You)
I respect Jack's strenght
I RESPECT JACK'S STRENGTH.
>Nioh
You never played it
Nioh sucks you are forced to use axe cause all the other weapons do no damage
>odachi
>no damage
????
shitposters don't play the game else they won't do moronic shitposter shit like praising axe
Odachi does no damage compared to an axe of equal stats. YOU (you) didn't play the game
>Run Onmyo
>Delete everything
Why is spellcasting so cumbersome in SoP unless you're a blue mage?
If you aren't running Gambler you're missing out.
>want to replay game
>Remember dog shit Diablo loot system
That’s all TN is know for these days. Diablo sloppa.
I hate it. Just go back to ninja gaiden weapon leveling.
There are sone pretty fun builds you can do with minimal grinding though.
My favorite is braindead LUVKMAXXING as gambler
>repeating the loot cope from nioh when only level matters in sop until postgame minmaxing and it even has auto equip for tards
Team Ninja's worst game. I will never forgive Ganker for gaslighting me about A) this game supposedly being good and B) Wo Long supposedly being bad. you guys have garbage taste.
But Wo Long is their worst Nioh-like? Its doesnt mean its bad at all, stop being such an overdramatic homosexual. SoP is great, sounds like you got filtered. Also, Rise of the Ronin is amazingly fun, still not Nioh 2 or NGB, but its mostly a step in the right direction
wo long is a mid game that ran like absolute ass until israelite devs shat out all the dlc and ronin is shit
team ninja is over
>wo long is a mid game that ran like absolute ass until israelite devs shat out all the dlc
Mid isnt bad though? I still enjoyed Wo Long for what it is. On the other hand, Ronin is fricking great. Sounds like you cant even play the latter, so your opinion doesnt matter
mid is bad when you can play 3 other similar games that are massively better
and you only like ronin because you're a homosexual weeb, have a nice day
It was great, but we'll never get another
good, both squenix and team ninja can't produce anything competent anymore
Postgame genuinely made me dislike it. I hate it when rpg shit overtakes action games man. People got mad about it but I’m glad XVI got rid of all the rpg shit.
Gitgud and learn the mechanic
>Having to get into build autism and sift through a shit ton of loot to play an action game
Nah, I’m good. I’m content with just seeing the credits.
Learn the mechanics
It looks generic tho
Paladin is insanely fun when you go sword and board.
Watching how Whitegoat played it changed the game for me.
Whitegoat is the only gameplay footage I've been checking for action games, I dont care about muh journos or other streamers
I've been playing Blue Mage/Gambler too much, I've been thinking about making a Paladin/Dark Knight combo.
You should definitely give it a go, don't forget that Shield Bash is essentially a cancel, parry and combo extender in one button press.
>Shield Bash is essentially a cancel, parry and combo extender in one button press.
I can just imagine how easy it would be to rape bosses with shield bash into ability into shield bash.
Skip around a bit.
>5:42
He rapes The Emperor in only a few seconds, this is unbelievably broken.
>No CC
Awful gameplay. This is considered a good player? I must be a god compared to him
This makes me wish I didn't write off Shield Bash immediately for not being a buff.
Didn't use sword (or mace) much, is it known what makes Shield Charge sometimes not do damage after parrying with it? I remember being annoyed a few times by being right up in a boss's face with nothing happening.
I play for he
>Bad graphics
>Bad level design
>Good gameplay
i'm so bad at this game I got filtered by that fire and ice duo boss for 2 hours
I just got the game yesterday and I have no idea how Ill fare. I also suck at action games.
it has a lot of ways to break the game
for normal mooks just keep slamming them into walls, trust me this is important
The maps are way better than nioh. Gameplay and character mogs nioh. The graphics is fricking ass and dark.
Is the combat similar to Rise of The Ronin? Good waifus? Team Ninja made this, no?
Fast pace like DMC but grounded. Have nioh awful loot system
It has some things like stances and ki from Nioh but with a greater emphasis on parry like Wo Long, except the timing is even more strict. As for waifus there aren't many since it's more focused on husbandos.
>except the timing is even more strict
Didn't Wo Long make parrying way easier in full game compared to the demo or did I fall for shitposting?
>Waifus
It has Neon for hebechads, and Sophia for milfchads.
Team Ninja doesn't understand initiative, so any job is reduced to parry or dodge whenever the boss attacks you in any way. A job system is pointless when a Greatsword plays like dual daggers
Every job have a skill made for that class. Giving you alot of playstyle like DMC.
But how does that change the fact that Team Ninja doesn't understand initiative, making weapon variety effectively worthless since there's no discernible variety of hit reaction for your arsenal?
For me its, assassin, void knight , samurai, gambler , and lancer
I play solo. Teammates are in the way
I play for gameplay and Jack is cool
>references the fricking FFU anime
game is just pure condensed soul. Nomura's autistic writing combined with well design and engaging combat
Does spear get any better jobs later on? I like the core moveset of the weapon but i'm not FFbrained enough to think having a job skill dedicated to a jump attack is cool and interesting.
jump is stupidly strong
also most jobs can use spear, just manually equip it
Jump is a ludicrous amount of i-frames for its MP cost and damage.
don't sleep on lance hurl.
it's called lance hurl because i hurl every time i see lances
full charge lance hurl > job switch forward dash is peak jack
game sold so bad Nomura was begging people to tell 10 of their friends about it. it's dead anon. good things never last because consoomers are fricking morons and swoon over the biggest trash available in the market.
It's pure 7/10 at best.
it's 8.5, you just got filtered
Not based. It's a 9 the only flaw is the graphics
how did it sell?
it didn't
it was released in ebin store so likely like absolute ass
1 Neonillion copies
Rebirth is better
Its not and I enjoyed rebirth
SoP is pretty fun, but it could be better.
>Soul parry
>Not perfect parry
Pathetic
what's the difference
That build is unlimited SS meaning all timing is out the window. Criticize that first before perfect blocks
meter management doesn't exist in endgame
Lmfao @nioh gays thinks this is close to their mediocre game. SOP is the superior game.
This is how the game is supposed to be played besides the unlimited cheese soul parry.
I loved everything about
It was fun. I really liked it.
>Put job points into parry HP/MP regain
>Greatsword Weaponskills have guard points that count as parries
kino
Greatsword is probably your best defensive option due to having extended parry windows on guard cancels. Makes shields look rather silly in comparison.
bahamut trials is a bad way to curb the powercreep.
imagine playing a game with so many options and creating a build that lets you play in a boring, shitty way...and then complaining that it's boring.
I will never get bored of Lance Hurl.