>Collect every bad guy in the world
>Cram them all into one place
>Bomb the shit out of them
The hero we need.
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>Collect every bad guy in the world. >Cram them all into one place. >Bomb the shit out of them
>NOOOO YOU CAN’T DO THAT EVERYONE DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE YOU’LL BECOME JUST AS BAD AS THEM
It's not about a second chance. The thing is that there isn't always going to be Batman or Strange to fix things. Batman's goal is to get the system working again, not just to make Gotham crime free.
That's fricking moronic. You don't just magically 'fix the system,' you remove the broken parts from it. There's no fixing a psychotic mass murderer or a crazy tree person or whatever the frick else the villain of the week is, because they're inherently flat characters who only exist to be beat up and somehow US comics have made gorillions trying to take this seriously and straight.
There's a difference between murder and justifiable homicide, though.
The broken parts are the police and the courts, not the criminals. Batman brings them in, but his goal is that the justice system does its job and executes them properly. This is all explained very clearly every time Harvey Dent shows up.
All of that would be fine and dandy if Harvey Dent didn't get his shit kicked in and turned evil every single time. How many times does the same cliche have to play out before people want something new?
>How many times does the same cliche have to play out before people want something new?
The comics have been pushing forward for awhile now, and everyone else is rightfully sick of the adaptations being the same shit again and again. The problem is that the western comics industry, movie industry, and vidya industry are all fricking terrible.
>The problem is that the western comics industry, movie industry, and vidya industry are all fricking terrible.
Yeah, can't argue with that. Maybe someone with conviction will come along and spearhead a new story.
I'm holding out hope that the writer's strike will finally start the collapse of hollywood. Comics can't be saved until Diamond is out of business. I unfortunately have no hope whatsoever for the AAA video game market at the moment.
True that. Comics are by far the most fricked though. At least Luke Skywalker got to taste the sweet embrace of death, what's happening to Peter Parker right now is an absolute travesty.
Original Harvey Dent was better as an uncompromising black/white moralgay. The multiple personality disorder bullshit done ruined the character.
> Batman's goal is to get the system working again, not just to make Gotham crime free.
Is it though?
Batman doesn't seem to have any developed ambition greater than being the bat-themed gauntleted fist eternally punching the criminal dregs of Gothum in the face.
I'm convinced that he contrives reasons not to kill mass-murderering superpowered psychopaths, just so that he has an air-tight justification to dispense ultra-violence against more targets. Let's be honest here, even if we compromise and follow his 'do not kill' mantra, are you telling me that Bruce Wayne couldn't create a foolproof means of containing his rogue's gallery rather than just shuffling them into the wet paper bag that is Arkham every time they commit an atrocity.
For someone so preoccupied with 'fixing' Gotham, he certainly doesn't seem terribly bothered with all the staggering amount of collateral damage and human death caused by his feuds with supervillains .
I think Batman vs. Dredd had the Big Meg call him out on this.
The reason is he'd never have cooperation with the Gotham PD again and they'd do everything to make his job impossible likely depriving the city of Batman or just killing him. He'd have to be fine with fighting the cops.
The only reason Batman has the rule is because editors didn't want him to be too voilent, even though it makes way more sense for him to be a killer with what a dark and deranged character he is. His reasoning for it isn't even consistent. It always felt a bit forced and silly to me, although some stories make great use of it.
I guess it depends on the interpretation/version of Batman but one of the reasons he doesn't kill is because he knows it'd be a slippery slope and if he started doing, he basically wouldn't be able to stop himself and go from the Batman to the Punisher.
>he basically wouldn't be able to stop himself and go from the Batman to the Punisher.
Considering that what brought Jason over the edge in the Arkham-verse is Joker killing an entire kindergarten, would that really be such a bad thing?
Well, it's what happens to Superman in the Injusticeverse when Joker makes him hallucinate a pregnant Lois Lane as Doomsday which leads to Superman beating the everloving shit out of her which kills her and triggers an explosive decide in Metropolis killing shitloads of people
Imagine a world where we got the next Arkham game with Gotham and Metropolis and a de-powered superman who slowly gets stronger through the game until he's a god at endgame and post-game.
Imagine a world were Rocksteady was still good. Imagine a world where capeshit games didn't suck.
>in an alternate universe Rocksteady would have shown everyone how to do a Superman game right and they'd still be knocking it out of the park to this very day instead of wasting so much time on the DOA Suicide Squad game.
Has even a single batman villian ever reformed themselves?
I don't read the comics but the ventriloquist in the animated series
(me)
(clayface does not count)
Yes and no
Example: Gordon's psycho son
Harley Quinn?
Bane?
Azrael?
Harley, Ivy, Penguin have all gone straight. (Pun not intended in Harley and Ivy's case.) Langstrom (Man-Bat) is usually good when cured too. Dr. Freeze varies back and forth too and is very often helpful. Sometimes Bane is an antiherotoo, though usually only because he likes children. Joker's the only one who's really irredeemable.
>Joker's the only one who's really irredeemable.
Scarecrow too
> Terminal brapgay is irredeemable
You don't say?
Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy both may as well be antiheroes at this point
Red Hood almost always becomes a lightweight Punisher
Talia sometimes goes against her dad
Solomon Grundy as well
most of them are basically anti-heroes at this point besides joker
>Harley, Ivy
reformed dykes
>Bane
anti-hero
>Mr. Freeze
did nothing wrong
>Penguin
went legit
>Azrael, Red Hood, Catwoman
rejoined Batman
the Penguin came the closest but high society made fun of his upstart ways
yes catwoman reformed herself to my wiener
The Riddler was a private detective for a while and it was great, instead of booby-trapping the city every week he decided to just beat Batman at his own game. Unfortunately, status-quo demanded that he become a villain again.
In the comics and cartoons, fanously Plastic Man. Before Plastic Man was just a goon for Kiteman, then he had a scuffle with Batman which led him to fall in a vat of chemicals, making him Plastic Man.
After that, Batman would frequently vist and reform him, which he's now a superhero.
Plastic Man is actually really powerful and the JL is happy he's on their side.
>No one mentioning Plastic Man
you twats.
Scarface in BTAS eventually did
>he didn’t watch Solomon Grundy single-handedly defeat the DC equivalent of Cthulhu and then frick hawk-girl before dying but for real
Fake fan baka
God, I love Solomon Grundy.
yes
those psychos have families that will take revenge on you for killing them, thus repeating the cycle
Kill the entire familiy then
Many of them very explicitly do not have families, like Joker.
that we know of
Batman doesn't even know his real identity and Harley Quinn 2019 confirms he's married to a hot latina
It was revealed in some recent comics that batman worked out his real identity a long time ago and helped put joker's old family from his pre crazy days into a kind of witness protection scenario. He maintains the pretence that he doesn't know the joker's identity because he believes it likely that the joker would then find and kill his old family for a laugh. With his identity unknown, they remain insignificant to joker's neverending duet with batman, and out of the firing line.
>hot
you're right
that's already implied in the word latina
what's implied in the word latina is obese and loud
obese ASS and loud BRAPS
Bravo Druckmann
Typical woman moment of signing petitions in support of violent criminals and then crying about rape and violence in the streets
Not even canon to Batman. homosexual has no issue with killing.
Did Killer Frost redeem the needful as well?
Why is Batman so wishy washy about his morals? He also doesn't take out Wonder Woman or the amazons despite having the means and Wonder Woman being a psycho.
"Batman no kill" isn't a thing. It is a contrived plot device utilized at times to create more drama. It isn't actually real and he really doesn't care much at all.
The entirety of Asylum happens because Batman refuses to throw a batarang at Joker and kill him. Joker even calls him out on this.
And he does that in many comics and series. Comics have no consistency bro
Yeah I know that. But not killing is Batman's golden rule in the majority of Batman media. When people think of Batman, they think of a hero who never kills.
Maybe in cucked westoid countries, but thirdieCHADS still has their balls so killing is natural and justified, and we run this world now so they should drop the white b***h act.
And yet he is totally fine working with killers. Dude is a hypocritical shitfrick
Because it's a nearly 100 year old property that's had hundreds of writers and dozens of different reboots and continuities over the years.
And this is why comics suck. Because it has no consistency and for some reason it is forbidden to just have the same author for decades. Nope, gotta let the next fanboy fanfic homosexual make a new story! Unironically I prefer Japanese shit because they keep the same author until the fricker dies. Goku doesn't suddenly change total personalities over a chapter. Also just having an excuse doesn't make it a good one
>that's just how they do it!
Yeah and it is shit and leads to shit characters that make no sense. Why can't Americans make consistent characters? Even the frickin Brits can
Yeah, everyone has been shitting on American comics for decades now, anon. We can't do anything until Diamond is dead, but hopefully the Hollywood crash will hurt Marvel enough to get some changes in the comic market.
But he literally did? He was some eco terrorist's simp
Don't worry it was an accident.
If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers remains the same.
>what if I kill 100?
Shut the frick up
Guys, I'm so close, but holy frick is this one hard. Frick Catwoman.
The facts that her ground takedowns take forever and she doesn't have the massive whip swing group knockdown move from City makes for a painful time.
>she doesn't have the massive whip swing group knockdown move from City makes for a painful time.
I can't remember if it's the same because it's been 10 years since I've last played City, but she does have an AoE whipe move that knocks down. But it does frick all damage.
>Frick Catwoman.
Me first
That shit took me ages.
>Frick Catwoman
First of all, me too. Second of all, she gave me the most trouble as well. Only tip I can give you is to immediately get rid of the medics, otherwise the fight becomes impossible.
She has the fastest beat-downs
Godspeed anon, I was only patient enough to only do Asylum.
Frick 100%ing City legit. Goddamn Calendarman. But Knight's great. The AR challenges can be a bit grindy with all the characters, but the challenge achievements are really fun. You do have to beat New Game+, but just the Arkham knight story and it's on knightmare difficulty so you don't get counter indicators so it's still pretty fun even if it's the same story again.
Agreed, should do it nowadays.
>played asylum in 2017
>still haven't played any of the sequels
This was mocapped by a small Latino guy.
Pretty sure that was just Arkham Asylum.
City is the best and Knight is better than Asylum
I have the exact opposite opinion. Asylum is the best overall experience, then Knight, assuming you like the car, that is. City's the worst because it just feels so compressed. It feels like a Bethesda Fallout DLC map compared to Knight being the full map, like they weren't sure if going open world was great. And a ton of the side quests end incomplete, like the whole Azrael thing being completely pointless in City.
>And a ton of the side quests end incomplete, like the whole Azrael thing being completely pointless in City.
If I recall, they were always meant to set up their appearances in Knight. So they served more as teasers for things to come, with Hush being the biggest example. Of course Knight didn't really do anything interesting with them
As short as it was, I thought the Hush encounter was a cool way to end the plot line in Knight. In general I'm pretty happy how Knight concluded a lot of story lines. Even though I wish Batman had just went with Selina, despite knowing how out of character that would've been for him
He also threw in innocent people in Arkham City and he intended to take up Ra's Al Ghul's genocide crusade afterwards.
was getting caught part of his plan?
The Suicide Squad game should have been like that.
Merge Arkahm and Injustice into one.
I still don't understand why they killed Joker in the story when the devs clearly wanted him to keep existing cause fans loved Hamill
muh voice damage
But they kept using him, that's my entire point
He dies in the story but keeps showing up
Because they were sick of everyone whining, "Why doesn't Batman kill Joker?"
Well he’s still dead in the next one, at this point they should just do Beyond and adapt ROTJ since that shit is legit cape kino of the highest order
>Well he’s still dead in the next one
Yeah I know, I just want Beyond Arkham and joker is all hamill has left at this point, they should just let him do ROTJ
Because the Joker rarely ever dies so when it happens it's always kino.
I didn't want him around, I was really happy to see Scarecrow taking the reigns for Knight and got buttmad when I realized it was going to be another Joker episode. Albeit it ended up being a pretty fun joker storyline in the end
Joker in Arkham Knight was uber-kino
Strange was also shoving political prisoners and anyone who knew too much about him in there.
Batman TAS was the best rendition of Batman. That is all.
I used that skin for Arkham City but it felt too silly against the backdrop of the world. Made me wish we had an Arkham game that was just that art style through and through.
That's why I don't really use skins except maybe in challenge maps. And why I kinda like Knight's Beyond suit. It's a bad translation but fits pretty well in the rest of the game.
Classic suit looks kino in Knight.
The original DCAU was and is still the best rendition of DCs property on film
Close, but this is a Terry McGinnis board
>no gaems since last century
Sadge
You wouldn't try and greentext on Twitch so don't bring Twitch slang here.
>spend years building up the location the games are set in
>give players more ability to go anywhere with gliding and grappling
>decide in the biggest game yet to force players into the Batmobile
Why? Why did they do that? Why would you spend resources developing a car section for a superhero known for using his cape to glide around the city? No one who plays Spider-Man games wants Spidey to get the buggy from the 70s. They want to web-sling through the city.
I know everyone has a favorite Batmobile, they're more iconic than most other superhero vehicles. I'm just saying, you do like one section with the batmobile and then you leave that shit optional for the rest of the game.
It's the cobra sections, 2 boss fights against the Knight and the Deathstroke battle that make Batmobile usage feel so long.
He captured political prisoners and journalists too
>and journalists too
You don't have to sell him to me, I'm already a fan
No more Batman games
Looking at Sony Spider-Man, Gotham Knights and Suicide Squad, I think we're better off that way.
>grapple to a high raise
>There's a Joker jump scare waiting for you
I loved Arkham Knight
>never grapple in Miagani Island from below visibility over a roof ledge
>avoid both the Man-Bat and the Joker scare forever
>eventually the game gets sick of waiting and Man-Bat starts flying around without needing that event to activate it
why did the riddler make race challenges
The Riddler's main motive is to earn Batman's approval
Plus he always wanted to design racetracks
BOO!
Doesn't he escape if you play on Halloween?
Best use of jumpscares in gaming.
>Scarecrow's hallucinations in Asylum and Knight
>Scarecrow's secret radio frequencies in City
>playing as Joker at the end of Knight and getting ambushed by Batman stone statues
>Man-Bat jump scare
>Killer Croc jump scare
>all the creepy stuff you can find around the map in all the games like Grundy's vinyl player, Calendar Man's diaries and so on
Rocksteady should make a horror game. The Arkham games are sometimes creepier than regular horror games.
Pyg was creepy as well.
Pyg was the most fricked up of the rogues in Knight, and that's including Scarecrow planning to gas the entire East Coast and killing/harming millions just because he hates Batman that much.
>Starro hidden away in the batgirl DLC
that one was WB montreal rather than rocksteady, admittedly
the fricking shark was too scary and it was cheap that you could not avoid a jumpscare even if you played perfectly
I loved Asylum and City but I got bored of Origins and never finished it. Should I go back and try it again?
Skip Origins and go to Knight. Origins is always considered the odd man out and you're not missing anything by skipping it. The 'trilogy' is getting a Switch release and Origins isn't included, for instance.
the real reason why crime exists is because ~~*billionaires*~~ own all of the capital and keep the middle class locked out of real estate. i bet that most of ~~*batman's*~~ victims are tenants and undocumented workers in his bat-slums
the real reason crime exists is because of Black folk
>If Batman kills a villain he won't be able to stop
So? What's the issue? I legitimately don't see the problem.
Because he will find you and me and snap our necks for saying Black person online
if he just starts killing everyone for literally any crime it wouldn't be great or it would depending on your world view
>If you kill this child torturer rapist murderer arsonist you'll start killing people for jaywalking
It's called the slippery slope FALLACY for a reason
Ever heard of the Fallacy fallacy? Not just something I invented, btw.
I know what that is, and more often than not the slippery slope is not actually a slippery slope at all, but it in this case it's true. If you think it's not you need to argue why you're so certain killing one irredeemable piece of shit translates into a fascist regime enforced by one single guy dressed in a costume.
Honestly, I don't think the slippery slope should be considered a fallacy anymore.
I thought that was what batman meant though, if he specifically starts killing he wouldn't be able to stop
Batman is in modern incarnations a very unstable man. For frick's sake, the Bat who Keks shit was built around the idea that if Batman starts killing his moral compass will take a nosedive.
How does Batman justify his no killing policy when his enemies cause more deaths?
not his job, he brings them in and then it's up to the city to decide
he is not judge, jury and executioner
He's a dude in spandex starring in a comic for children. Originally he had no problems killing, then comics became super safe and non-violent, before both Marvel and DC went full edge in the 90s. Marvel eventually returned to wholesome chungus 100, whereas DC kept its edge. So Batman still has the no-killing from ye olden days, but now you're also supposed to take his stories seriously and now you have stuff like the funny clown man cutting off his face and then taping it on again.
>batman white knight has an interesting concept
>ruined y having everyone act wildly out of character
Hugo did nothing wrong
any stories where a GCPD officer puts a bullet in Joker's head after Batman hands him over?