Come one Cynthiabros. You knew that Leon was always the superior trainer.

Come one Cynthiabros. You knew that Leon was always the superior trainer. You can find solitude in the 2nd place- ups I mean 3rd place

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What will we do when leon jobs to Ash even though he used the gimmick on his ace? (unlike Cynthia whose shark had to be kept in base)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whether he jobs or not you cynthiakeks are 3rd place. The debate is over lad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If Ash loses to Leon she might even be below Diantha. They better pray he wins

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diantha is absolute fodder, sorry

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kek, if he jobs then Cynthia confirmed > Leon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cynthia confirmed > Leon
          >Despite Leon being in the final and Cynthia not
          Absolute state of cynthiakeks

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Plot armor that protected him from Ash until now doesnt make him stronger than Queen ^^

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The debate won't be over until he actually defeats her on-screen (or beats Ash in the finals).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's no debate. She's never been noted as unbeatable, the best, infallible, or even notable amongst Champions. Even by your own metric, it can be said that Cynthia has no grounds to even be considered as near his capability unless she proves it on screen, which is to say that there's nothing to support the idea of your waifu being anything more than we've seen on screen: third wheel in the world ranking this season and, hypothetically, third place AT BEST last season. Leon hasn't left first from the beginning.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They never battled, therefore no evidence of him being stronger. Lol at you assuming she competed the previous season. She doesn't have to be noted as 'unbeatable' since she's the strongest trainer in her region. It's a given she never lost until the main protagonist showed up. Your ugly pajeet is a failed shill-character that will lose one of his two 'character traits' in a couple of episodes. Basically the human Zoroark.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your average coping Cynthia simp, everyone. Enjoy the frustration of knowing that she's a failure. You and your ilk have earned it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I enjoy knowing she'll always be one of the most popular characters in the franchise while your ugly shitter will be forgotten in less than two months.

                >ugly pajeet
                He's the handsomest of handsome characters in pokemon. YOU wish you had his jawline. Fucking pedo

                What jawline are you talking about, gay?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Popularity is irrelevant to the discussion. but of course you're grasping for anything else to pretend you have leverage with. Pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This entire discussion is irrelevant since they never battled. And Cynthia jobbing to the same guy Leon will job to is not evidence she's weaker than him.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Talk yourself into circles. Maybe you'll believe your own nonsense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She's in 3rd place

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literal peak performance champion

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >ugly pajeet
              He's the handsomest of handsome characters in pokemon. YOU wish you had his jawline. Fucking pedo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Raihan is FAAAAAAR mmore popular with the women. He even gave Sonia, Leon's in-region simp/wannabe girlfriend fizzy knickers, just by hinting at taking her on a date. Women like "the Undefeated Champion", they don't like "Leon".

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you a woman?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They get marketed as a pair, sorry.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And Raihan's plushies outsold Leon's at the same rate Zacian's outsold Zamazenta's. They push them as a pair now, as they need to rely on Raihan to make Leon sell.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fujos makes money, so they make Raihan and Leon merch because they will buy both, duh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gym leader who CLEARLY more popular than the Gen 8 Champion shill
                >start adding it to the popular character's products to not have an embarrass the designer by proxy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Embarrassing. Raihan and Leon are a pair. Cope with it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The two of them were one placement behind the other for a time in fan popularity rankings so far as I remember. This whole thing is nonsense.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the absolute nation of leonpajeets

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She's in 3rd place lad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, she's equal to Leon but Leon dedicated himself to battling, Cythina had other interests. It speaks more to Cythina's strength she can be as strong as Leon, while only training part-time.
            But Leon's not beating Ash, Ash never loses to canon game characters in finals tournaments (it's always some donut steel OC that kicks him out of the tourneys) and given Cynthia didn't care about the tourney 'till Ash showed up in it, can't claim she's lower than Leon. No evidence for it, save incel screeching people like the girl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        theory: satoshi tajiri was killed.

        That doesn't prove that leon is "stronger" than Cynthia, especially when she loses to trAsh which is now "le protagonist with impossible plot armor" of pokemon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Leon 2nd place, Cynthia 3rd place
          deal with it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            .. and yet he is weaker

          • 3 weeks ago
            theory: satoshi tajiri was killed.

            In the games Leon loses to impaired fishbones with his CHARIZARD, Cynthia gets in the distortion world unharmed and her ancestors touched god and satan

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Gets in the distortion world unharmed
              and proceeds to do nothing lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >her ancestors touched god and satan
              So did Cynthia really

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cynthia stomped Iris and all those battles dont matter anyway
          Only the Ash ones do and if this [...] happens
          Then we have solid confirmation that Cynhtia > Leon

          But you gays keep saying that Garchomp had injuries from the fight against Iris Haxorus. You keep changing your arguments everytime because you know you're not right.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You fell for shitposts, RETARD
            Iris hasnt been mentioned since she lost, her battle didnt affect garchomp and the back wasnt mentioned today either

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Now it's shitposting
              Like I said, you change arguments everytime because you know you're wrong. She Lost, Leon is stronger just deal with it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >being this much of a retard
                Leon already lost once

                ? he already jobbed once
                This second loss to Ash will show everyone he was always weaker than Cynthia
                too bad for leonfags

                This will be his second loss
                Officially weaker than Cynthia, whose MegaGarchomp never lost and who needed 2 gimmicks to be taken out

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ? he already jobbed once
                This second loss to Ash will show everyone he was always weaker than Cynthia
                too bad for leonfags

                That's not a trainer battle or even jobbing. He held back and nearly caught a legendary single handedly that took a full raid-team consisting of two other legendries to beat. Not only that, Charizard (and him depending on the context) saved the two trainers and Pokemon. Leon couldn't keep battling because of the blast knocking him down if not out.

                The cope is well beyond laughable.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >b-but
                still lost
                lmao
                Cynthia NEVER lost to a legendary

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lost? Leon didn't finish that battle outright.

                It didn't take a legendary: Cynthia lost to a 10 year old boy and may have done to many others before. Leon hasn't ever lost since the start. Keep going, though. Maybe you can make 3rd place look better than 1st. Maybe it'll help you forget what you saw a few hours ago.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lost?
                yes idiot
                Lost

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'll have to notice that a brunt of them will almost never deal with it. The ranking, multimedia canons, the losses -none of it, even if he beat her on screen would be accepted. They'd call it plot armor, shilling, a nerf or ANYTHING to pretend their wiafu isn't a jobber or anything less than the best despite never claiming she was or being put on that pedestal to begin with.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >despite never claiming she was or being put on that pedestal to begin with
                There's two Cynthia camps.
                >Cynthiafags see her as the strongest due to how badly she walloped them, then came back in BDSP and hadn't lost a beat; even taking Red's old throne as top trainer.
                >Cynthia fans recognize she was never the outright strongest in any game (including BDSP) and has a penchant for launching prodigies.
                As a member of the latter for the most part, I can see how this is confusing. Then again I fully expect Ash/Leon to be a reverse sweep at least to 5-5, which would not look too good for him either.
                I do see Cynthia favored against Leon 6v6, though he can still beat her and does so 1v1.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm kind of in both camps, i see her not as the absolute strongest trainer, but simply as the strongest trainer besides the protagonists, she's supposed to be ultimate challenge. Leon just doesn't fit as well for this role, he's basically just your average player character but presented as a NPC.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, more like Cynthia tasted her own medicine like Iris;
              >get beaten due to opponents using "gimmicks".
              >her ace wasn't at it's fullest power (mega evolution)
              Hillarious when Cynthia's story is considered canon (beating Iris, her e-boi past with Gible) until she get beaten by Ash, which seething fans immediately ragequit call it non-canon

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Iris is irrelevant
                The only ones who who keep bringing her up are butthurt Irisfags

                Ash and Cynthia both >> iris

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            watch the fucking episode yourself retardbro

            You fell for shitposts, RETARD
            Iris hasnt been mentioned since she lost, her battle didnt affect garchomp and the back wasnt mentioned today either

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >from the fight against Iris Haxorus
            Wrong mon, lad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the rope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What will we do when leon jobs to Ash
      After Leon lets Ash use every gimmick?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He gets 2nd place as the best of the world (previously 1st)
      Nothing wrong with standing at the top 3

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Leon is jobbing to Ash,'s plot armor. The status quo is the same.

    And the rankings will just change next year anyway. The fun is in the game, not the numbers

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact the Mega Chomp wasnt even defeated is very bad news for Leonkeks

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nah hes not

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your guy is blowing a 5-0 lead to an NFE on its last legs.
    It took two fully evolved mons AND a double gimmick to defeat Cynthia.
    You tell me; Which one looks like a stronger way to go out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It took two fully evolved mons AND a double gimmick to defeat Cynthia.
      >Cynthia has 5 fully evolved pokemon
      >Uses dynamax
      >still loses
      All these cynthiafags excuses are so pathetic at this point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More than what it'll take to beat Leon's whole team.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Leon will job to the Pikachu that Cynthia beat, so yeah, not looking good for him

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >final face-off is Partner pokémon vs Partner pokémon
        >Pikachu gets its rightful W after XYZ shilled Mega 'Zard to spite it
        And it'll be a nice call-back to the Kukui/Ash battle, where Ash used his first and partner pokémon to take down a God.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cynthia beats Pikachu
    >Leon jobs to Pikachu

    >Gmax Charizard will lose
    >Mega Garchomp never lost

    >Cynthia = 2 gimmicks
    >Leon = 1 gimmick

    unless Leon wins - pretty hard to make a case for him to even be equal to her, much less stronger...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      3rd place

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >cant argue against it
        >just spams 'muh place' which only reflects the bracket rng, nothing else
        Concession accepted, yeah

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cant argue against it
          >just spams 'muh if only' which only reflects LARP, nothing else
          3rd place, yeah

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            leon's weaker than Cynthia, yeah

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This whole thread replies to the nonsense you just spewed.
          >No, she's equal to Leon but Leon dedicated himself to battling
          You literally just made this up right now.
          Cynthia struggled to beat Iris (fags even make excuses saying it was thanks to Iris Garchomp had back problems by the way) and then got destroyed by Ash.
          Leon humiliated Alain (who beat Ash not so long ago) and humiliated Diantha who beat Lance. Leon had a harder path than Cynthia and he made out of it easily.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            meant to

            No, she's equal to Leon but Leon dedicated himself to battling, Cythina had other interests. It speaks more to Cythina's strength she can be as strong as Leon, while only training part-time.
            But Leon's not beating Ash, Ash never loses to canon game characters in finals tournaments (it's always some donut steel OC that kicks him out of the tourneys) and given Cynthia didn't care about the tourney 'till Ash showed up in it, can't claim she's lower than Leon. No evidence for it, save incel screeching people like the girl.

            As well

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cynthia stomped Iris and all those battles dont matter anyway
            Only the Ash ones do and if this

            >Cynthia beats Pikachu
            >Leon jobs to Pikachu

            >Gmax Charizard will lose
            >Mega Garchomp never lost

            >Cynthia = 2 gimmicks
            >Leon = 1 gimmick

            unless Leon wins - pretty hard to make a case for him to even be equal to her, much less stronger...

            happens
            Then we have solid confirmation that Cynhtia > Leon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you watch the episode where Leon takes Ash training and says how "any day spent plauing with pokémon is training to me?" Well, that's fucking Ash, you retarded garden gnome. He gets stronger, purely by buggering around with pokémon all fucking day, training himself and his team buy pitting them in 1v1's and commanding both sides at once, he travels so often and every time he does, he regularly ends up learning something which helps him down the road, be it info or battle skills. And again, it's looking at the other entrants and finding out all the losers had one tiny flaw - they had something else to do with their time instead of train - actress, geologist, archaeologist, pokémon cop, researcher, 10 year old girl.
            This is taking the information presented in-series and establishing a theory, the proof is the final of Ash vs Leon (mind, three episodes doesn't bode well for Leon - one in ascendancy, one for the tables turning, one to crown Ash World Pokémon Champion).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah she's below Leon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unless you can prove otherwise - all of that makes him weaker

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cynthia lost
      >Leon hasn't

      >Pikachu's lost
      >Charizard hasn't

      >Cynthia has 2 gimmicks and still fails
      >Leon has 1 and still hasn't failed

      3rd. Place.
      3rd place

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ? he already jobbed once
        This second loss to Ash will show everyone he was always weaker than Cynthia
        too bad for leonfags

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont forget Ash needed to asspull his magic powers just to beat the Togekiss.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know I think Volo stands a chance against Leon, not Cynthia

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They made sure to show Cynthia as strong as possible against the plot armor
    It'll be hard for leonkeks to wank him after he jobs to Ash
    Good riddance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It'll be hard for leonkeks to wank him after he jobs to Ash
      He's still the 2nd best in the world 😉

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3-rd*

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Episode 100 where he told Ash he is bored without a strong opponent makes him look like a retard now thats its confirmed he never even bothered to try and fight Cynthia

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >makes him look like a retard
      He is one.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I find funny that Leon refers to Cynthia as "champion of Sinnoh", whereas Cynthia admits she wants to fight him.
      She literally never was on his radar, kek.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was scared and dodging her

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Or... she was scared and dodging him? Why would number 2 not challenge the top spot and take the crown before the end of the season? The guy himself said he wanted strong opponents. Thanks for raising the possibility that she was afraid. A good theory.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It puts a big bullseye on her back
            >Raihan kept challenging him so she couldn't get an opening
            >Wanted to close the season on it
            Pick one.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Raihan was 8th place. If 8th can challenge 1st, 2nd would easily take priority. If she's afraid of the 'bullseye on her back', then what's the point? The guy she's supposedly better than has had that bullseye on his back since he was 10 years old.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's almost like she was getting tired of battling and thought it may be her last run.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >acting like that plot had any thought to it
                That shit was nonsense drama they added because JN is fucking desperate.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's no confirmation. They could have fought multiple times prior as far as you know. The only assured reality is that he's undefeated.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There's no confirmation.
        yes there is, multiple in fact.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I find funny that Leon refers to Cynthia as "champion of Sinnoh", whereas Cynthia admits she wants to fight him.
          She literally never was on his radar, kek.

          If they fought "multiple times" he'd have been aware of her. She didn't get serious until she heard Ash was battling in the WPC.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, regardless of your wman-hating views, ythia was always treated as one of the very schudgest trainers in the Pokémon world. Had she entered last year, they'd have referenced it, like they referenced other trainer's performances in the previous tournament. That it was Lance vs Leon indicates the heavy hitters of the pokémon world weren't competing just yet. Else they'd have been in the mix enough to send Kanto home before he even got to the final, just like Diantha did in this tournament.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's no confirmation.
          yes there is, multiple in fact.

          >Lost?
          yes idiot
          Lost

          headcanon trio

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, if you ignore everything Game Freak brought to the table and their presentation of her and TPC's subsequent continuation of it, it's headcanon, just like your delusions are as-is by needing to ignore everything they've said about her to make it work.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Again, blatant headcanon. believe it if it'll make you feel better. In the words of someone who wasn't coping: 3rd place.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Aye sure dude, they only had her as a hidden boss in Unova why? Couldn't possibly be because Unova was baby-tier and they needed a Champion who was worth a fuck as a bonus boss, no. And then they went and made her the strongest NPC battle in the games to-date.
                Like I said, of course it's headcanon if you need to ignore the canon presentation to make it even work.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These are fictional cartoon characters

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would like to see Rillaboom punching Ash face, that would be nice

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Cynthia beats Pikachu
    >Leon jobs to Pikachu

    >Gmax Charizard will lose
    >Mega Garchomp never lost

    >Cynthia = 2 gimmicks
    >Leon = 1 gimmick, never fought Cynthia, never even fought another champion outside of Galar it seems
    leonsisters...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Has to make the same post twice which has been debunked already
      State of cynthiafags

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Leon is beating Ash
        It's the only unknown outcome in the entire bracket from the reveal.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ash doesn't lose to canon in-game characters in league finals tournaments, retard. Ash is beating Leon, as Ash is the player self insert and the player beats the in-game NPC's.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >still cant refute it

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still copeposting
    leonpajeets are scared of a tiny yellow mouse, kek

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cynthia is already > Leon in games and Masters
    now only anime is left

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ash will defeat Leon more easily than Cynthia because Leon is weaker than Cynthia.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      truth

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