>comes out of nowhere
>gaslight you
>refuses to elaborate
>gets the best ending
How did they do it?
>comes out of nowhere. >gaslight you. >refuses to elaborate. >gets the best ending
>comes out of nowhere
>gaslight you
>refuses to elaborate
>gets the best ending
How did they do it?
troony propaganda thread
you know what to do, all fields, etc.
>destroys the brotherhood of steel
>destroys the Kings if they make peace with the NCR
Nah, the only way to get 100% everyone but legion and powder gangers happy is with NCR.
>everyone happy
>goodsprings literally go bankrupt in the NCR ending from tax
once again, NCRgays prove themselves the real trannies who never played this game.
>goodsprings whines and moans that they now have to pay taxes to someone else for the benefit of society
>Benefit of society
>Can't even provide safe roads and has a complete shit stain of an economy.
Gross. House is a real one.
House cant do shit. You have to do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, for him. Might as well run it yourself.
But the fun part is you don't have to do all the boring logistics if you let House think he owns the city.
Its more fun if I own the city and have my robot run the logistics, instead of being the errand boy of a megalomaniacal homosexual.
House does all the thinking, you are just his hammer. Also he makes you into a king. Going NCR is being a loser especially since you still have to pay taxes.
everything except winning the game. Independentgays keep forgetting that even in their ending they either have to use House's exact plan or go scorch earth on the Mojave by sabotaging the Hoover damm
Once he has his chip and the additional securitrons are unleashed, he's good to go. When considering how things would play out post-game, House is easily the most autonomous faction. He has resources, force, brains, and immortality on his side. Realistically all the other factions would wind up asking for your help again.
You homosexuals keep saying this but forget that the NCR proper is fine
At the end of the day, NCR is inevitable. The Legion is too unstable without Caesar at the helm, and House has just one small city-state at his disposal. Even if the NCR is driven out at the second battle, much like the pre-war governments they are trying to emulate so closely, they'll just run a propaganda campaign, and chuck bodies into the meat grinder until the politicians get what they want.
Aint that the truth.
With the treaty, I doubt that. House got the Dam. He got the bots. He play a political game that got two pro war people fired. Hundreds, if not thousand died. Morale taken a hit. The head of the Ranger is actively campaign to not being warmongering homosexuals. NCR isn't going to go to Vegas anytime soon.
>one small city
located next to an immense source of freshwater, electricity and unradiated fertile soil. Give it two decades and New Vegas will grow back to pre-war size.
>doing just fine on its own for all those years without the NCR
>big man comes in and demand they pay tax for things they evidently can live without
>benefit of society
The Brotherhood of Steel are a "bunch of technofeteshists" larping as medieval knights in power armor with fricking energy weapons so they can overpower and steal from people.
The NCR is everything wrong with prewar America and more.
>destroys the brotherhood of steel
Yea it's kind of what broke it for me
I quite like them, and honestly the place would be a lot safer without advanced AI or laser rifles going around
Look at Mr.House one person is enough to take on both the NCR and Legion
But I also hate both other factions and doesn't want to go according to Benny plan
how are lasers any more dangerous than guns?
Nah I like it. House lets you make peace with the Boomers because they're just slight crazies with a lot of explosives but BoS is a cult who wants all the high power shit to themselves. He wouldn't accept compromise. Total death is the only solution.
I always thought him destroying the Kings was stupid. Like, yeah, you don't want them getting too fuzzy with the NCR, but having them openly attack visiting civilians seems like an even worse thing to do. Word spreads about how you can't even get to the Strip anymore without getting mugged, tourists stop showing up now that the promise of New Vegas being an impenetrable hive is gone, no tourists means no money for House. And even if word DOESN'T get out, still, money in a King's pocket is money not on the table at a casino.
NCR is even worse than going full moron with Yes Man.
There was some cut content that let you convince House to let the brotherhood live. There are mods to restore it.
That feels very conflicting and I understand why they didn't enable it
House even comments BoS would come for him and his tech eventually
the brotherhood of steel
I dont understand why this bothers people. The BoS are a hyper ideological faction that will not tolerate anyone having the same or worse, more power and tech over them. Even if you could get the BoS to have some sort of truce with House it wouldnt last and they would eventually try to backstab House the moment they could get the chance. I dont hate the BoS but I completely understand House not wanting them around. It would never work and allowing them to exist in his backyard while they scheme to overthrow him would also be moronic. House doesn't have any other choice.
>I dont understand why this bothers people.
A lot of peoples first Fallout game was Fallout 3. Most people didn't play the other Fallout games or get into the Fallout lore enough to realize that the Brotherhood of Steel was never the "good guys".
The only media in which the Brotherhood of Steel is ever a positive force is Bethesda media.
they're more evil in 4
>I dont understand why this bothers people.
No one has any qualms gunning down BoS when they are actively trying to kill you in a few scenarios (which you almost have to trigger deliverately by angering them). It's just that House is effectively telling you to go Pearl Harbor on their ass, and that just rubs people very wrong. YOU are being the aggressor, not them. And it's all based on a hypothetical.
Yes Man is canon
>sloppy whatever is canon
yes anon, that's how series continue when having "free choice"
It's "swinging vegas baby!". it's Benny's plan for a free new Vegas not tied to any faction and their bullshit plans. Just running a mob town by the mob for the mob with you as the king of the mob.
a colossal waste of potential. NCR, Legion and House can all make something big out of Vegas. Yes Man and Benny can make a shitty tourist town.
So he’s just making another New Reno?
Yeah, basically. New Vegas run by Benny would just be a more powerful new Reno with a bigger population, and would export resources to NCR. It would be more like Russia: tons of natural resources, can blackmail bigger powers, and corrupt as hell.
Oh Benny would "develop" New Vegas and make buildings, and such, but him and his buddies would be taking a slice of everything. Corruption would be rampant. Benny would pick people who were loyal not competent. It's a recipe for disaster.
ONLY the Courier run Indepenent New Vegas has a chance if they're moral.
The courier doesn't run New Vegas, please stop with this moronation. Independent is just Yes Man running the status quo, doomed to eventually be eradicated by tunnelers if they make it out of the Divide or annexed by NCR.
>oh no, those 90HP 0DT enemies who are extremely weak to light. whatever will we do? Surely these will be the end of all civilization! Not like Deathclaws got hunted to extinction in NCR lands or anything.
lel it's like Spore carriers being hyped up as some dooms day weapon.
Benny would put pressure on people being incompetent piece of shit even IF they're loyal, replacing them constantly until someones loyal and competent. The guy wants results on top of wanting to stroke his ego.
Based ending where you eat capicola in the lucky 38 with carmela
The moron failsafe is not canon lmao
>the Yes Man duster is in all Lonesome Road endings
>Lonesome Road is canonically right before the 2nd battle of hoover dam
>the Yes Man duster requires a very careful balancing of faction reputation to get at the end of the DLC
Why wouldnt they pick the more neutral Old World Blues duster that Ulysses wears? By picking the Yes Man duster that slide, the devs made it clear that its canon.
It matches the Vault 21 Jumpsuit
then they would have just had the Courier wear that jumpsuit in the slide like so many other slides from previous DPCs and the base game. but they specifically picked THAT duster as a way of making Yes Man canon.
at no point during the DLC can you wear a duster variant. that slide is the Courier walking away from the Divide in the canon vault 21 duster which is tied to Yes Man. any rational person should then conclude that Yes Man must be canon.
You’re reading too much into it, the courier wears the jumpsuit in the normal ending slides and the duster is just a bit of synchronicity.
they wouldnt make a clothing item with mechanics like the Courier duster, where it changes based on faction reputation, specifically the 4 factions tied to each of the 4 main endings, then pick 1 (ONE) of those variants as the last slide with no way to change it. Yes Man is canon.
They would for the exact reasons I just said stop trying to asspull your way into making your Mary Sue ending canon. By the same logic the courier somehow gets back a jumpsuit I used to repair my armored vault 13 jumpsuit in the normal endings.
>By the same logic the courier somehow gets back a jumpsuit I used to repair my armored vault 13 jumpsuit in the normal endings.
That is a truly neutral jumpsuit, not tied to any faction, that you are given at the start of the game. Its a logical fit for ending slides which depict the Courier as it is the most neutral option possible.
So why didnt they use it for the Lonesome Road ending slide? Why would they make the Courier duster with the mechanics it has, then put in extra effort to make sure the Yes Man variant was depicted? It has nothing to do with synchronicity to the vault suit, its to make Yes Man canon.
Because the duster is the staple of the DLC and they wanted to use it, not to mention the entire DLC is extremely slap dash and rushed. Also if the courier is siding with also the Courier in neutral in none of the endings they did it because putting him in other outfits would be too much work given the time constraint for development.
>Because the duster is the staple of the DLC
No it isnt. Its Ulysses' thing until you given one at the end. Thats hardly staple. And if they wanted to use a neutral duster, why not use the one Ulysses wears? Its technically tied to House, but since Ulysses isnt, that would make the Courier wearing that duster in the ending sldie debatable.
If the devs were so rushed, I would ask again why they would use any dustee variant over the most logical vault 21 suit. its because the devs believe Yes Man is canon.
Yes it is you trog it’s on the art for the DLC
My brother you need to wake up, the truth is right in front of you. Why didnt they use THAT variant, which is the one Ulysses wears and is tied to Mr House, in the ending slide?
Stop trying to prolong this, you’re wrong, you squirming around for more shit to dig up isn’t going to change that.
There is only 1 answer to these questions. Why does the faction-aligned duster need to be used in any ending slide? Why would they use the mostly neutral Old World Blues duster on the cover and for Ulysses, but not on the Courier in the ending? Why would they specifically pick the Yes Man variant instead? They already put the Courier in the OWB variant on the cover, so the synchronicity with the vault suit wasnt part of the devs' plan. Yes Man is canon and you need to accept that.
I already said why, stop trying to go in circles, there is no canon ending to NV. No matter how much you try to bullshit and asspull.
>there is no canon ending to NV
there wasnt until Lonesome Road made it clear that the Courier left the divide repping the Yes Man duster.
Really? Did the devs confirm that? Like actually say that there was a canon ending with their words? Because aside from the duster you have no proof
>inb4 the duster is the only proof I need
Yeah shitposting isn’t for you kid.
Its the final ending slide the devs ever made for New Vegas. putting the Courier in a faction aligned clothing item in that context is a huge statement.
I feel like that's reading way too far into it.
He’s either a shitposter or a massive autist
or maybe they just ran out of time and didn't want to make 4 fricking slides for something so inconsequential as confirming the canon ending before the player even reaches the fricking ending?
so then why not use the more neutral OWB variant used on the cover art?
It’s already been said stop going in circles.
if they wanted synchronicity with the vault suit, why is that not the version on the cover art?
They would have and they did, stop b***hing
I havent been shitposting, and am 100% serious when I say this: I accept your concession.
>it’s canon because one ending slide in a rushed DLC has you wear a duster that the similar to an outfit you wear in all of the ending
>this is his only evidence
The fact that you’re only denying it now shows how desperate you are, are you going to leave now and pretend this is some kind of “epic own”? Why are zoomers like this?
youve yet to debunk the simple fact that the devs had a multitude of options to depict the Courier as neutral in that slide, but chose to align him to Yes Man instead. you tried to asert that its because the 21 is to call back to the vault suit with the same number, which i quickly debunked and youve yet to offer a counter-argument on that point. youve now resorted to non-sequitors and name calling.
I once again accept your concession.
I did and you have yet to show me the devs giving any actual confirmation aside from this that it’s canon. Mainly because you’re a shitposting ESL that’s doing everything he can to prolong this? Did you post that shit about troons earlier hoping that it would start some shit? Did you make this thread hoping to attention prostitute and farm (You)s?
when you go to sleep tonight, you will have nothing else on your mind other than the fact that Yes Man is the canon ending to New Vegas. you know youve been cornered completely on this, otherise you wouldnt have resorted to childishness.
Man I must have really struck a nerve if you I made you drop the facade like this? Where are you from? You a latinx or a pajeet?
NOOOOOO FRICK YOU
I DON'T WANT THE BEST ENDING TO BE CANNON
MUH OBJECTIVIST AND LIBERTARIAN GODKING PHILOSOPHER
captcha: tinypeepee
not an in-game render. All ending slides are captured in-game.
but there is an in-game render used by Ulysses and available to the player if their faction affinity has Vegas as their highest. so why did the devs drop that one in favor of the Yes Man duster?
no proof that they dropped it. They just picked one random duster to capture the final slide. Just so happened to be the Yes Man one.
>no proof that they dropped it.
read the rest of the sentence illiterate moron.
the proof that they dropped it is in the slide, which also errodes the rest of your sentence. you think they picked one at random? its tims to stop coping.
you read no good. Me no debate illiterate black man. See?
Yes Man ending feels way too perfect at times, its why I prefer House because it has a bit more nuance to it
forgot to mention that Yes Man's ending is very likely the most thematically appropiate, from the Vault 21 iconography to the OWB and Ulysses spiels it really does feel like some of the writers were hard leaning towards Yes Man being canon
I think if there's ever a sequel it'd be either a house or yes-man ending since literally anything can go in it.
I hope it's House, but since his VA is dead I imagine it's going to be Yes Man or NCR for the safest choice
anyone can replace House. Just get some smug-sounding brit who can fake an american accent and voila you have House.
Dude has good business acumen, but he is horrible with social cues, almost bizzarely so, considering his success as a businessman, but i'm guessing his genius and robotics expertise is what set him apart, rather than people skills. It's so easy to betray and use him, but he trusts you fully, and assumes, like Benny, that by paying you well, and housing you you'll be loyal. Which logically, is the right decision, but still, kinda weird he never had any other cards up his sleeve at that point other than courier 6.
He's largely based on Howard Hughes, who was a genius business guy but also incredibly eccentric. I genuinely believe that they had to give House his poor social graces or else it would be too obvious that he is the best choice.
Wouldn't surprise me if thats why he was given some flaws as well as the BoS. NCR is trash as an ending, and Legion barely exists as a joinable faction.
I'm not some great Orator anon, but some level of social ability is expected if he's in a corporate position like his. Though it could be his social skills have atrophied from the decades of isolation with nothing but him and his cum robot wives
The thing about the NCR ending is that it works against NCR by all front. By the time you get to the dam as a NCR player, you know full well how corrupt their heads are. Winning mean more warmonging and more suffering for everyone. If anyone actually cares about NCR, they would go with House. House would force them a treaty so they don't attack Vegas, while NCR will just blame the president and Oliver. It will force NCR to reorganize.
They pretty much confirm they made him go against the BoS because if the doesn't, House is too good of a choice.
And even then he made a good argument against the Brotherhood.
They ARE ridiculous. They're funny and we the players are meant to like them, but holy shit, they are stupid as frick cultists and their codex needs to be burned.
This is mostly aim at fallout gays that has a special attachment to the BoS in the earlier games, and certainly from FO3 gays.
They put an explosive collar on you and have you do their bidding and if you don't cooperate they blow your head off. Granted, you did break into their bunker and assuming you're a curious prospector, but that definitely soured my perception of them. Most players go to the bunker with Veronica so they don't know about this, but if you hate Elijah's guts the Mojave chapter really isn't any better. Good riddance.
> but he is horrible with social cues
You solids and your inefficient talking and motioning and social cues.
if house was half as smart and capable of a leader as he claims he is, instead of threatening you like a thug if you show him any resistance in giving the chip he'd just do anything to placate you and then bomb your penthouse suite with upgraded securitrons later
this. House has the emotional intelligwnce of a toddler.
>man steals your life work
>threaten man
>"whoa whoa how dare you threaten me whoa whoa pls be nice to me whoa whoa"
its called haggling
haggle these nuts. You get what you agree to on the contract. homosexuals who hold other people's properties hostage get the rope.
>sign up for simple delivery job
>get killed
>come back from the grave to hunt down killers and find the delivery item
If you dont think that extra effort requires more payment than what was agreed to on the intial contract, then youre exactly the kind of boot-licking homosexual I expect to pick House.
>get killed
don't be dramatic. The courier knows the risk when he signs up.
unless it's stipulated in the contract that hazard pay is included, you have no right to demand anything honey. The fact that you have to go above and beyond to recover the package means nothing, because it's your job to not lose the package in the first place. You don't get paid extra for nearly failing at your job.
>unless it's stipulated in the contract that hazard pay is included, you have no right to demand anything honey
you got any proof that hazard pay was not included in the contract? its uselsss to debate the actual wording of what the Courier agreed to
>proof that hazard pay was not included in the contract?
can you prove that it is, or that it's not already included in the sum that House offers the player?
motherfricker, what is the point is debating exactly what the Courier agreed to? unless I'm mistaken, there is almost nothing to go on in-game to determine that.
if you think that clawing your way out of a shallow grave doesnt deserve extra pay, youre a literal cuckold.
we know for a fact that the amount House offers is the amount that the Courier agrees to. That's what he says and there is no option to dispute it. Play the game troony.
Not him but there is the delivery order Doc Mitchell gives back to you at the beginning of the game
https://fallout.wiki/wiki/Mojave_Express_delivery_order_(6_of_6)
This homosexual is literally making an argument against himself, the player character, to get paid extra for almost being killed. What a fricking cuck you are.
>anon sees someone who likes to roleplay as a strait-laced ancap Courier who respects every contract to the letter
>whoa whoa that means you are a cuck
zoomers and their existence have been a disaster on this Earth
this shit is exactly my point. house can just give the courrier whatever he thinks is "fair wages for fair work" and then murder him and take the money back once he gets supreme power later if he was truly this macevellian figure that could lead the planet to the stars within a century
but he's not. he's some old moron tha'ts high on his farts in a videogame that a large amount of literal trannies hold up as a good game
>narrates his own ending
>leaves the future as vague as possible to the viewer because he's a career manipulator
>"good ending"
The DLC's should have been post-game and formed some kind of post game story.
>can bs some excuse where House, Caesar, moore, Oliver, etc are relieved and you have to report to some new 2nd in command who bosses you around
OMG Andrew Ryan
is there any game like new vegas where the player doesnt have so much agency over whats happening in the world? i feel like one person is deciding everything. or prove me wrong
play multiplayer games, bro.
getting anal about single player games hinging on a single character is moronic
i like singleplayer except being the savior of the world each time
you have self-esteem issues
i want realism
Why do you guys response to morons that will just go independent because MUH ANARCHY MUH OWN BOSS? They have zero sense or care what happen after they kill House.
it gives them sense of control and dominance which they cannot find with women
>gets the best ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=6jCN6RvKaEg
>blocks your path
The moment he told me to destroy the BoS I went down Yes Man's route
he just makes the most sense
House makes logical sense. If I don't roleplay a madman, I choose him.
I still find it hilarious that nobody has heated arguments about RPGs except for NV and the Skyrim Civil War. Nobody gives a shit about FO3/4/76 or Starfield (because it isn't a real RPG).
The only time I’ve seen the other Fallout games talked about it’s either people asking for Mods for 4, bethesdrones and shitposters schizoposting, or paypigs from /fog/ shilling 76. The only exceptions are talking about what could have been with 4 and the rare thread about the Tenpenny Tower quest line.
Thats because everyone in fallout 3/4 is pants on head moronic.
I've never met anyone that unironically picks NCR
What does that say about our society?
Gaslight how? I don't care to rule Vegas myself (already have Big MT to manage) and he offers rewards and potential life extension tech in the future.
Best deal, imo.
House and Courier are the best hope for the mojave
This game would have been so good with horses. Could have been the best wild west game. I don't even get why didn't they just copy paste codes from Oblivion.