Conan Exiles the best rpg sandbox ever imo, just got sorcery.
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Conan Exiles the best rpg sandbox ever imo, just got sorcery.
Conan Exiles the best rpg sandbox ever imo, just got sorcery.
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nice maybe I won't regret buying it soon
looks good but
>battle pass
no thanks
>switching to battlepass
what does that practically mean for the game?
microtranscation creep and tricking players into fear of missing out, give them an inch they'll take a mile
How would that even work in a singleplayer?
Outside of a Stygian cosmetic template that the devs will inevitably implement, I don't see much use out of that.
>sorcery
Cool.
>Preparation intensive and ritual in nature
Nice.
>stupid ass rock rune summoning minigame that explodes into gratuitous chunks with obnoxious audio every step of a spell because the devs couldn't figure out how to integrate magic with the existing ui
What a shame; they really thought people would be fine seeing and hearing that shit every time they need a spell.
>no direct damage spells
Okay, sure. Just cast whatever utility spell before rushing in to beat up shit at half health and stamina; what could go wrong? Nevermind being a sitting duck the whole time while channeling any spell. ffs the whole point of getting a strong source of ranged damage is to compensate your bones turning into glass and breaking the minute someone sneezes in your general direction. If they were worried about shitters spamming fireball they could make it cost stamina, which as a sorcerer you would already be considerate of spending. Fart out three fireballs? Your target better be dead and alone otherwise you aren't running away or fighting back the minute something gets close enough to crush your skull.
It's meant to trick PvP whales into thinking they're getting an edge over their plebian peers, but the weapons you can get are just like the dlc: star metal tier. The only way it works in profiting from singleplayers is through artificial scarcity by rotating cosmetics in the store.
Battlepass or micro-transactions always give me a bad vibe but I guess it's not any different than all the cosmetic DLCs. Maybe let people nitpick what they want to buy instead of buying an entire set.
Whatever, I don't care about that stuff that much.
>It's meant to trick PvP whales
So this doesn't affect me at all as a single player chad
They avoided "spamming fireball" because it wouldn't be in the spirit of the setting.
People of the Black Circle by Robert E Howard
https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0600941h.html
>But the next attack came swiftly. They all saw it—a white puffball of smoke that tumbled over the tower-rim and came drifting and rolling down the slope toward them. Others followed it. They seemed harmless, mere woolly globes of cloudy foam, but Conan stepped aside to avoid contact with the first. Behind him one of the Irakzai reached out and thrust his sword into the unstable mass. Instantly a sharp report shook the mountainside.
>There was a burst of blinding flame, and then the puffball had vanished, and the too-curious warrior remained only a heap of charred and blackened bones. The crisped hand still gripped the ivory sword-hilt, but the blade was gone, melted and destroyed by that awful heat. Yet men standing almost within reach of the victim had not suffered except to be dazzled and half blinded by the sudden flare.
>The slope above them was almost covered by the billowing spheres. Kerim Shah bent his bow and sent a shaft into the mass, and those touched by the arrow burst like bubbles in spurting flame. His men followed his example and for the next few minutes it was as if a thunderstorm raged on the mountain slope, with bolts of lightning striking and bursting in showers of flame. When the barrage ceased, only a few arrows were left in the quivers of the archers.
>THEY pushed on grimly, over soil charred and blackened, where the naked rock had in places been turned to lava by the explosion of those diabolical bombs.
(samegay) it's not quite a 'fireball' or magic missile but it's a very direct offensive sorcery. I do appreciate not going full anachronistic magic missile but I think you can make room for vaguely offensive spells. It's more that it would require a lot of alchemical work and preparation and not just be
>Skedaddle skedoodle I'm going to summon fireballs and burn your noodle
alchemy yes. at the end of black citadel?? the one where he gets captured by a wizard and enemy king after a pitched battle conan escapes the dungeon with the help of another imprisoned wizard and comes back at the end. he meets up with evil wizard, evil wizard doesnt cast any spells but has this grenade but before he can throw it conan chops off his head. evil wizard is still alive but his head is taken by his rival wizard foe that was an eagle??? or an eagle remote controlled by the rival wizard.
basically more alchemy, animal control like in the pict story. like you said there are instances of offensive spells but none of the lightening beams or fireballs so any offensive spells would have to almost be indirect and smart on how they work without turning into star wars laser beams.
It's funny how in Conan there is magic of every kind but direct offensive magic. Hypnotism, psychic blasts, shapeshifting, necromancy, weather control, demonic invocation, curses, tornado surfing, ritual binding, astral projection, life stealing, temporal distortion, and the like. The closest Howard gets to flinging magical balls of fire is the laser-shooting wand in Red Nails.
Scarlet Citadel. Those orbs are already in the game, too - as well as other alchemical things, like Darfari witchdoctor shit to make undead followers (skeletons/wights, not like the zombies that are coming with sorcery).
>It's meant to trick PvP whales into thinking they're getting an edge over their plebian peers, but the weapons you can get are just like the dlc: star metal tier.
Stop pulling shit out your ass, anon. The battle pass and all store options have already been stated to be cosmetic only, at the absolute worst it'll just be pay to skip progress which affects no one but the morons who buy it.
The battle pass is nothing more than a potential way for them to keep making money as they improve the game and possibly bring in more consistent players. Do they deserve that money, or will this be the end of the game? I don't know, decide for yourself.
Maybe not everything in the battle pass, but at least some of it is able to just be outright bought. The actual idea is fine since they do obviously need money to keep the game running and updating, but if it's one of those you can buy Conan Coins in packs of 300, 900 or 1200 and all the items are priced like 450, 1100 and 1300 they can frick right off.
My only real worry is how this will all function with offline games or player owned servers, since in theory you could just cheat in the ways to beat all the battle pass missions and playing on Official Servers is a terrible experience.
Given that it's available on both private servers and for singleplayer, I bet they really don't give a damn if you cheat through the progression. A laughable amount of the unlocks are for free and in any other case - they already got your money so what do they care?
Wizards in the old sword and sorcery stories fought kind of like Batman. They had a bunch of neat tricks and cool toys but these had limited uses and the wizard still usually ended up swinging a sword around once he exhausted his magical options. The vast majority of their magic, while it could be powerful, was just not oriented towards combat. So not having fireball type spells is acceptable if it's done right.
>So not having fireball type spells is acceptable if it's done right.
That's the problem, they aren't. You're going to end up with bullshit cheese-strats that might not even work, and even then could be nerfed down the line. The sorcery Funcom has shown is slow, almost entirely oriented towards utility (except the rng lightning storm), and can be easily countered by anyone. The corruption tax means you'll be running into battle with 80% health/stamina at best and 50% at worst; you're made of fricking glass. That kind of stat configuration only ever works in other games by granting it some advantage, which usually takes the form of range and damage. That's the whole point of the glass cannon archetype. Without any reliable source of damage to pressure opponents who probably have more health and stamina a sorcerer will be forced to fight the old fashioned way, that will see them immediately bodied.
You can see Funcom trying to build around this flaw by letting players corrupt stats for special bonuses, but what they have shown so far doesn't inspire confidence (raising damage in proportion to your level of corruption). It will be a nightmare to balance, and Funcom can't balance for shit. Sorcerers are going to be limp noodles that fold under the slightest pressure or glass swords that shatter the minute someone lands a hit.
They're probably hedging heavily on the bet that people will always opt to have the 3 zombie followers (4 if you pump up authority) going around with them at all times.
thats kinda how they are in conan. i mean for sorcerers, he just lobs off their heads via brute strength. i like it, it fits within the conan theme, cant directly recall homies straight up shooting fireballs in the classic stories. maybe imprisoning to another void, but that was done by the imprisoned space elephant and he did that to the evil sorcerer. even thoth amon, one of the more powerful ones was only able to become powerful via his ring and he wasnt floating and shooting fricking fireballs. more like summoned dark demon types.
thoth had a death ray he could use (once)
a lot of them had touch attacks that would kill you
what story thoth had a death ray in?
Probably something from the pastiche rather than anything REH wrote. Thoth-Amon didn't really factor into Howard's stories other than as some nebulous figure that was out there making moves. Hell, I can only think of him actually appearing once in Phoenix on the Sword. In The God in the Bowl he's just mentioned by name.
>Probably something from the pastiche rather than anything REH wrote.
Yea I figured, I do not remember anything about a death ray in the original stories, could be wrong because I also dont have a great memory of the stories from heart. Should reread them again.
>Hell, I can only think of him actually appearing once in Phoenix on the Sword.
Doesnt thoth send a shadow demon at conan?
No, he sends the shadow demon baboon after the aquilonian noble who enslaved him. Said noble just happened to be in the middle of attempting to assassinate Conan at the time.
It's funny how often Thoth-Amon and Conan cross paths without actually meeting, or even being aware the other exists. Phoenix on the Sword and The God in the Bowl are cases where Thoth endangers Conan's life accidentally, and in Hour of the Dragon Conan inadvertently saves Thoth from coup by leading sorcerers from Khitai to Stygia that kill his rivals.
Its pretty funny how people have it in their heads that Conans archrival is Thoth. Must have to do with the noncanon books and movies.
That's part of my issues with the pastiche. That, and the fact that I've read a few, they weren't bad or anything but they definitely lacked the same spark that Howard's writing had.
I liked it enough, but combat is janky in solo, and constant forced updates mean mods break.
Also, why this is not on /vm/?
And this battle pass shit is not inspiring.
I can't fault Funcom a battle pass because so far as we know it's cosmetic, comes with enough currency to pay for the next pass, and most of all I live in fear of Anarchy Online getting shut down. That they've kept both AO and Age of Conan open all these years has earned them the benefit of my doubt. They have not managed AO well recently, but it also makes them no money at all. For those suspicious about what we're going to be paying for in Exiles, I will note that AO subscribers get reward points which can be used to buy faster vehicles, hearthstones, and a few other powerful items, as well as level boosts. These are mainly conveniences for long time subscribers.
>battlepass
oh no no no no
The battlepass is free, complete non-issue because Conan devs filled the game full of cool stuff either way
no, 12 out of the 60 levels in the battlepass are free and judging by the two example pages shown during the livestream there won't be any of the good shit available.
source? didn't sound that way in the video, just sounded like time gated dailies.
Will this fricking game FINALLY recieve the Stygian building template? Because come the frick on.
that'd be cool love Stygia, great place, great people.
they're not sending their best
>sorcery as a player character option in a sword and sorcery game
Missing the point tbh.
>game doesn't stop you from practicing cannibalism, offering sacrifices to Set, or consorting with explicitly evil powers
Gee, anon, it's almost like we were already doing the legwork without any actual payout. morons out there really think sorcerous protagonists are anathema to the genre when the grandad of sword and sorcery used them. You have read Hour of the Dragon, haven't you, anon? You wouldn't be talking out of your ass like someone who has only heard about sword and sorcery, right?
absolute moron.
Sorcerors are nerds that deserve to get their pasty asses whupped just like accountants, lawyers, and pasty faced queer fellows overly obsessed with calculators and adding machines. Mike doesn't like 'em, and I don't like 'em either.
>Sorcerors are nerds
>not being a musclewizard
ngmi
How is the waifu situation in this game?
hairy
Hot
doesn't have to be modded has booba straight out the box
you can still mod it, though
nice
What are some good single player conan-like games?
this game
I remember this game being grindy as shit when I played it single player.
In game options you can manually set how much items you get from resources, how many are needed for crafting and how long crafting takes etc. Everything is customizable. You only have as much grind as you want.
Big pale stygian noblewoman vampire booba tho.
I have this issue. This one came out right around the time that Tomas Giorello stopped doing the art for Dark Horse's Conan the Cimmerian.
That book was the shit and Giorello's art was fantastic. That book had adaptations for Black Colossus and Rogues in the House that I still have laying around somewhere. I wish I could find back-issues of the Hour of the Dragon adaptation they did for King Conan. Giorello did the art for those as well.
It certainly has nice artwork.
This one wasn't done by Giorello but by a guy called Paul Lee. Wikipedia has got to be incomplete or something for their listings of Dark Horse conan books or something because it's telling me that the Rogues In The House adaptation doesn't exist even though I'm looking at all four issues of it right now.
Lisner did a ton of really good covers for the run. Frank Cho did a few, too.
Turns out that one was from their original Conan series. Here's some of what Giorello was putting in the books from the Queen of the Black Coast adaptation.
While they may have removed Denuvo, I'm still not buying it. The taint remains.
Shame that fugging mods are not as advanced as Skyrim ones
>battlepass
is this how israelites call cash shop shit now?
I like how I can make my character naked and roleplay as a hot amazon babe killing for sport.
Another patrician
Is this game like Rust or is it actually fun? I've heard you can play singleplayer but is it actually a good time to do so?
It's like Rust but the PvP is terribly balanced, which is a shame. It's far too easy to raid. That could change in 3.0, but I don't have my hopes up. It is far more single player friendly than Rust since the game kind of has a story and some interesting dungeon crawling. You can change practically every setting and use mods to make it more challenging/interesting, but eh you're probably better off just playing modded Skyrim.
Is single player worth buying this?
yes
On sale, yeah.
Singleplayer is enjoyable enough if you like crafting games. It's addictive, if anything.
I spent 80 hours and 60 levels just building my epic Egyptian fortress on the beginner desert dome, up until I realized that there is no point to that at all.
If all Thralls were actual npcs like in that Rimworld/DF games and if invasions were better designed it would be my favorite game I think. Instead most thralls are items and the remaining ones are simply for fighting.
Pretty fun if you go blind and go exploring on your own without PK trying to kill you. I advise you to increase the level cap since none of the bosses were designed to be solo.
You can solo every boss with the right thrall.
When I played single player I used Better Thralls to have 3 followers and another mod that really let you fine tune thrall effectiveness so it wasn't OP. Had some good times rolling with my posse.
>destroy original game and replace it with a shallow facsimile that anyone with half a brain realized would end in failure
>follow through anyway, fail, abandon the game
Never ever, bro. TSW will only be remembered through kino trailers and youtube memorials.
You can still play TSW if you had an account before Legends.
Maybe I'll pay for a /vrpg/ server for a month when 3.0 drops. Everyone will quit within that month ofc, but it could be fun for a couple weeks.
might b cool
Everything is 25% off. But next is supposed to be survival game sale. Do you think there may be better discounts on it? I want those building pieces and Siptah
>. But next is supposed to be survival game sale.
what
The romance with the "classic" version of TSW is such a clear case of OLD GOOD NEW BAD. It died for a reason, they made the shittiest, slowest combat system in a game where you want to spend as little time fighting as possible. The f2p combat was bad too but at least they tuned the game so that each mob didn't take 50 hours to kill.
Legends literally removed content. Also the ability wheel was genius. Here's a ridiculously long youtube video explaining how wrong you are https://youtu.be/eMgpws1Umz4
Do real people actually play these games
The bulk of the current Conan playerbase is ERPers on private servers with 1,000 mods. Maybe 1/4 of the playerbase is PvPers, also mostly on private servers. Officials are a disaster. First, it was because Funcom has a totally hands off policy which allowed cheaters to run rampant. Now, they police cheating but they're too harsh and the rules are vague. They will delete entire clans for building "too big," but there's no hard rule on what "too big" means. It's just up to the CSR who answers the report.
3.0 will probably revitalize the game for a bit, but for how long will obviously depend on
>but for how long will obviously depend on
how good it is.
what is the fricking deal with all the DLC
even with a steam sale + bundle discount the "complete" game is over 100 burger points
wtf
its just for flavor skins
Yeah the only one that has any actual bearing on gameplay at all is siptah and thats a full map expansion. The rest is literally all cosmetic stuff. Weapons/armor comes in iron/starmetal equivalent stats
Can you turn off level requirements for the gear in the options now? When I played the game years ago, I remember being annoyed that I killed a tough as frick boss (at least in single player) only to realize that I couldn't use any of the weapons until level 60.
They removed the level requirement for legendary chests a while ago.
It sounds like I need to play this again then. That was the one thing that really annoyed me about the game.
Aren't they adding microtrandactions to the game now?
its supposed to only be cosmetics like the DLC