>considered to be the worst expansion ever released for the series
>heavily criticized by even mainstream simps like IGN
>bungie representatives unironically stating quality doesn't matter, that it's bad to over deliver- all that matters is to rush content out.
>#1 pre-ordered product on steam
>5 million new players since last year
>Player retention is higher than it's ever been
How low does the bar need to go before people start withholding payment in 2023?
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its a good question anon.
i hope the tipping point comes soon, destiny as a franchise is one of the biggest wastes of potential ive seen in gaming period.
its staggering bungle has mismanaged something to this scale, it shouldve been a slam dunk
>i hope the tipping point comes soon,
Gachas have proven to me that the tipping point doesn't exist.
This
The moment to moment gameplay- the gunplay and sparrows specifically- have always felt great. Bungie really buttblasted themselves by getting published with ~~*activision*~~. Literally all of the problems originated from that initial start with D1. All of the important talent left due to that and bungie became a shell of what it was. They should have self published. Bungie could have become like bethesda. Literally all they would have had to do was go to a israelitebank and say "we're the company that made halo" and they would instantly have gotten all the loans they needed to self publish d1 with complete creative freedom
There is a timeline where Destiny DID become the WoW of shooters and we're not living in it
destiny 2 players are moronic sheep and should not be allowed human rights or freedom
preach it brother
destiny players might genuinely be the dumbest fricks around
There's still Halo and Overwatch players
it's possible Lightfail will be a delayed flop, in the sense that the next expansion (the Final Shape these names, Jesus Christ)will flop directly because of LF. Same thing happened with Borderlands 3 to WL and movies like the Star Wars sequel trilogy.
Glad to see IHE still making content and that it's performing well. Covid kicked his ass.
I actually think the names are cool. Maybe I'm just corny though
and in 3 years you won't even be able to play the DLC anymore because muh filesize bloat
frick Bungie
It usually takes two bad major updates in a row before people stop coping and begin to look elsewhere.
>Be a scummy business
>Make ever other content patch cheap/completely shit on purpose to milk your fanbase
>Laugh as consumer goodwill is fricking infinite
Who cares, the morons that still play these games deserve the slop they get.
Because their purchases shape and echo through everything in the industry. That's how the market works.
Not my problem, imagine playing modern games.
Most Destiny players preorder everything. I bought Witch Queen and all the seasons last year but waited for Lightfall reviews. Turns out I was right to skip it and not buy any of the seasons this year. I'll wait for a 60% sale on the annual edition to get all the seasons and shit in like September.
>still buying it
holy shit
>"lol I'm glad I didn't buy this"
>"BTW I'm gonna buy it"
Welcome to the Destiny community. "Damn this expansion sucks dicks and the game is fricked beyond repair (again), I will buy it later when it's slightly cheaper".
>get all the seasons
You are not getting past seasons. You have to own and play them on release
if Bungie wasnt milking those piggies, someone else would.
>you never bought/played Destiny
The only destiny player I ever knew owned a literal thousand funko pops so that should tell you all you need to know.
Destiny gays have Stockholm syndrome worse than any other player base I've ever seen.
Not For Honor gays? Not battlefield gays?
>watch video of some Destiny player flipping out due to cheaters on the opposing team going unbanned for days
>I've had it Bungie and I need to reconsider my future with Destiny 2
>from now on I'm only streaming 3-5 hours of D2 a day
Jesus christ
Just watch from 7:50 these people are mental
Insane to me. People talk about culture shock but this is the most genuine culture shock moment I've ever had. All my friends and I dropped destiny 1 after the shit campaign disappointed us, how the frick did these people get so sucked in??
Who knows, there's so much choice in the fps market it's baffling to me that someone would spend a up to a quarter of a day on a game that actively pissed them off like this
Destiny homosexuals are not human
The funniest part is when you have subhuman content creators like Aztecross going like "destiny 2 sucks" but still make a living off of it.
At least Datto has conceded that he enjoys bungie money so he won't ever quit.
I don't know what it will take for people to stop in general with Bungie, Blizzard or Square Enix, I think they enjoy being treated poorly.
Aztecross at least acknowledges problems even if he still makes money from content creation. He also is self aware of that he makes bank off of this content. Datto is straight up just a fricking soulless shill homosexual. Guy literally thinks he's "just like any other player" and that he's some voice for the little guy in the community. Complete lack of self-awareness mixed with faux-intellectual superiority.
I assume its just sunk cost fallacy. The game is approaching its 10 year anniversary, they can't quit now.
Destiny 2 is the only shooter I actually fell asleep while playing
And not the
>I'm exhausted and can't stay awake
But falling asleep from sheer boredom
Isn't it impossible to play most of the content now?
You literally cannot play the base game
The bar can never be too low. I now understand how israelites feels about goyim when I look upon gamers. Gamers are subhuman, they have no ability to think. They will eat slop, complain, get excited for the next batch of slop, complain, repeat. They never ever learn. Every year games get worse, and every year games sell more and more and more.
EA releases the same sportsball game every year, and each new one has more and more monetization. It's comical how blatantly they're trying to milk their consumers, to see just how greedy and how hard they can push their dumb little piggies, and they have yet to find the bottom.
It's disgusting how gleefully these human cattle will fork over more and more cash and time for things they hate and bring them no joy. You see it in almost every game, people b***hing about monetization, battlepasses, season passes, preorder DLC, how the game's not fun, how the balance is fricked, and so on. But they keep fricking paying and keep fricking shoveling it into their mouths. I hope game companies get greedier, I want to see how low these consumers will go before they finally stop and say they've had enough. I want them to wallow in the deepest darkest depths of depravity before they finally rear their heads up and realize just how deep of a hole they've ate themselves into and feel the horrible shame. Or if they will just continue to consume and pay mindlessly.
I want battlepasses within battlepasses, I want the most predatory mechanics designed by psychologists to get paypiggies to sell their houses for one more gacha spin.
>I want battlepasses within battlepasses
the schocking thing is that this is supposed to be a hyperbole but this is already in place in warzone 2
its going to be worse, much worse
you cant even imagine how much worse its going to be
I have a young zoomie brother, and an older zoomie sister married to another zoomie, the brother in law is deeply invested in this garbage, little bro plays roblox and porn games lmao, his steam profile is animated half naked anime girls.
Wtf seriously?
yeah, a 30$ extra battle pass that unlocks super premium skins for you on top of the regular paid/ f2p battlepass
This, based
I unironically have zoomer coworkers who get mad and confused when I say I just don't play games with microtransactions
It's insane how far the slippery slop has gone, and it's all the fault of normalgays letting it slide
>pic related steams the broccoli tops
It was perfect
But think about the cost of servicing the game. It's like $1 trillion per year to run the servers. The megacorps told me I need to be paying $30 per month for the cosmetics or they'll go bankrupt.
Best post. If you play games with microtransactions you are cancer.
>I want battlepasses within battlepasses
Already real in fortnite.
https://www.eurogamer.net/fortnite-star-wars-event-includes-free-clone-trooper-skin
It's treated as """"""event"""""""". You buy even more time-limited battlepass, do objectives - orrrr you can just buy tiers, too. All while there's "main" battle pass still happening in the background.
tbf with fortnite, you buy the pass for 1000, but hte pass also gives you 1000 back if you complete it, so technically you only have to give them money once, not defending battlepasses tho, they are cringe no matter what
In destiny, you buy the battlepass for $12, then the event pass for $10, then the dungeon pass for $20, then if you want any of the "crossover" cosmetics it's $20 per class
Mine brethren of African descent.
I genuinely can't believe people still pay for and play this game, and if you ask someone who does, even they seem to not be able to believe it, pure insanity, my guess is that they're just lost souls who want to play absolutely anything as long as it's a live service game, but they see something like fortnite as too kiddie, poor bastards
I liked Destiny 2 gameplay. But every time I look at Destiny 2 post launch on the store I see
>$50
>$50
>$30
>$50
>$20
>$50
And im like frick you I aint buying all that. It'll continue to wither until they stop being greedy and just bundle everything for $60.
>until they stop being greedy and just bundle everything for $60.
never happening. In a couple years it'll just be
>$50
>$50
>$30
>$50
>$20
>$50
except for all different expansions (the older ones got "vaulted" and are no longer playable)
The worst part is you are paying basically for like 2 weapons from old expansions as all the old content is getting gutted. Even fricking WoW didn't cut out all the vanilla shit, you can technically do all the vanilla content at low levels on normal servers if you are into it. Destiny is just a waste of money at this point that should have been made properly into a straight co-op shooter or a pure mmo instead of this hub-based shit.
Just today I almost reinstalled Destiny 2 again to shoot at some shit. One look at their DLC page prevented it.
Holy frick, are you me? Was looking at summer sale and this expansion was front and center. I even got nostalgic for a second but one look at those reviews ripped the rose tinted glasses right off. 9 years later and Bungie hasn't learned a single thing.
I got the Witch Queen to finally play through all the campaigns. I'm casual as frick so I suspect end game problems core audience has won't affect me.
>to finally play through all the campaigns
who's gonna tell him
I know, anon. I played through what was there before they removed it. I meant the campaigns I haven't played yet.
>I'm casual as frick so I suspect end game problems core audience has won't affect me.
only way to play d2 and remain sane
Destiny fans have unironically just been cucked at a level never seen before
>Be D2 player
>Hear bungie say for years "we will use the profits to improve our game"
>ff to 2022
>Witch queen is big success
>Small improvements made
>Fixes made
>Still no pvp maps but soon™
>ff again to 2023
>new expansion
>it's shit but sold really well
>bungie is gonna use all these funds to hire more people
>OOPSIE LOYAL CUSTOMER BASE WE USED ALL YOUR MONEY TO MAKE MARATHON, OUR NEW TARKOV CLONE
>it's gonna make us so much money lmao
Absolutely hilarious and deserved, destiny players are the biggest morons imaginable
Any D2 player who didn't quit immediately when marathon was announced is unironically a massive cuckold
Not to mention the insane cash milking they've done
>dungeons are now a seperate purchase, goy
>pay to skip the season grind goy, wouldn't wanna miss out on your one time exclusives
>shill over 100 dollars for a future expansion and you get this gun that will be disabled day 2
>bright dust harder and harder to earn
>in store prices getting higher and higher
>dungeons can only be bought with ingame premium currency
>1200 for a dungeon
>have to buy the 1500 bundle
Destiny 2 players have a disease
Never accept any kind of cope from a destiny player
It is morally correct to make fun of destiny players at every opportunity, it would be a disservice to let them continue on the path they are on
>its real
Jesus christ, that's sad
Quit it right after I got both two first DLC preorder, the Osiris one and Warmind. Fricking small-ass maps with barely any content, along with main game costed a fortune. I was new to Destiny, and seeing size of dlc's and how """""much"""" new content there was - I was like "And now after this shit you want me to buy forsaken?? LMAO"
Fordaken was actually the best DLC they ever released
>D2 player here
post character and stats
I learned this from Final Fantasy 11 when they took all the profits from it and pipelined it into FF14 after the original release fricking bombed. You can see the exact moment when FF11 went into maintenance mode because of this debacle.
If there wasn't so much paid shit like if I could just do $60 a year like CoD and call it a day I'd be playing right now.
But buying expansions, dungeon keys, season passes, etc is too much.
Plus it's confusing with them adding and removing content willy nilly I have no clue what to buy to even start these days.
I played on release and it was very content dry so I dipped. Haven't really played a shooter since.
Remember when Bungie left Activision and Ganker said they were saved?
good guy activision did nothing wrong, the greedy israelites at bungie were the ones behind all the bullshit
I considered playing Destiny 2's campaigns in order like a jank single player game
then I found out because they "sunset" content it's literally impossible to play Destiny 2 start to finish. It's not like WoW where the order is just shot full of holes and difficult to make sense of, whole chunks are simply not there anymore
this game has zero value
really dodged a bullet by not playing Destiny after having my fill of TTK
who the frick plays destiny?
That like playing warframe but worse, you pay.
>warframe
All content is available to play even if it’s painfully outdated
>destiny
Huge portions of content including the best stuff is just gone
True but destiny will always be atleast 10 times more enjoyable to play than warframe
>Huge portions of content including the best stuff is just gone
To this day I don't understand the logic behind this. Was it actually technical hard limitations? Because current new experience is dogshit compared to an actual story that was there at launch.
Modern game devs cannot into optimization. Game would literally take hundreds of Gigabytes to install. Only option was to literally delete stuff. No im not joking.
I believe you're correct. It's been a long time but I remember hearing consoles were having trouble with loading times. Like the fricking game would spend literal tens of minutes (I'm not exaggerating) of just loading, this affected the pvp crucible side too. It got to the point were people genuinely thought the game was constantly freezing at the loading screen when that wasn't necessarily the case.
Thanks ps4 IIRC because game couldn't handle so big game so when they got to 120 gb they started cutting content instead of finding a way to compress it
Was hyped for Destiny 1.
Beat the shallow husk of a "campaign," then tried doing some Nightfalls with a friend. Realized there was literally no point and sold the game.
Looked into Destiny 2 to see if maybe Bungie got their shit together for the sequel — saw there were X-number if expansions and some base game content was locked in a "Disney vault."
A shame. Can't understand why anyone plays that skinnerbox.
Glad I stopped playing after witch queen. It got me back into the game but after season of the plunder came out I dropped it again
anyone who ever played that is a moron, I could tell on a surface level without ever playing it destiny offered less than halo ce did in 2001
Destiny is the most insulting modern gaming trend I've seen yet and its baffling how morons keep buying it. I would hate to be a slave to this triple A slop
destiny gays are unironically the biggest cucks in all gaming
yes even worse than the cultists from scam citizen
Who the FRICK still plays Destiny? Their last good expansion was taken king, maybe Forsaken if you were dumb enough (like me) to still play this shit show of a game.
>pic related
>"You must purchase ™:™:™:™ to damage this enemy"
please tell me this is a joke
It's exaggerated but no, it really happened. There was an issue were certain enemies could not be damaged on a specific map if you had not purchased the dlc. They patched it soon after though, was still really funny.
>$99.99 for an expansion plus annual pass???
>still has technical issues like you described and more
literally inexcusable
When the base game was free, newbie areas could spawn some dlc champion that couldn't get damaged and fricked everyone in there kek.
lol
lmao
there was something like this in dragon age origins, you could interact with the starts of expansion quests only to be told you need to buy them to continue.
>How low does the bar need to go before people start withholding payment in 2023?
there's no such thing anymore. i've had this argument with people and they'll straight up tell you that voting with your wallets isn't a thing anymore, so might as well buy it even if it's trash. how can you even argue with that broken logic? it's like they've unironically been brainwashed into consuming no matter what.
>voting with your wallet isnt a thing.
Lmao at buckbroken consoomers. I have no delusions about my own power, I cannot change how bungie operates by boycotting them. What I can do is spend my money on games that I actually enjoy.
it really is that easy, even if voting with your wallet is a meme, most microtransaction games are designed to annoy/inconvenience you into paying extra, why would I play a game that is designed to be annoying and waste my time
>destiny's best expansions come after their worst engaged expansions
it is most definitely a thing, just point out that vanilla sucked and forsaken came after, beyond light sucked and witch queen came after, etc. the monetization wont change cause ppl are more moronic with their money, but they can still use their 1500 employees to make a good expansion
This is the future you choose
Why did Todd do it? He was the chosen one.
He knew perfectly well what monster he was unleashing.
He was unironically correct. Don't like it? Don't buy it.
I dropped the game after completing ShadowFall and when they started talking about "sunsetting" and they were about to release the Ice powers.
What did I miss?
Did it all go to shit after that?
I'm so glad I didn't the deluxe this time. This troony was horrible.
Isn't their planet gaseous? How was there an area there? WAS there an area there?
The planet is a gas giant, yes. I don't know it's ever addressed how the city can exist on it when the gravity for Neptune is way higher than Earth's. Considering how much stuff in this expansion isn't explained (including critical mcguffins), I wouldn't be surprised if the writers just didn't think about it.
I kind of just saw the big bad was Megamind and was pretty much tuned out. I just saw snippets here and there in threads and videos. I can safely say I'm done with Bungie between the trashbag that is how Destiny's been handled, the weird abortion support on social media, and the viddoc for Marathon having pronouns of all things for everyone.
It's not really that bad, especially by Destiny standards. CoO, WM and SK are objectively shittier, and honestly, WQ is about as much overrated as LF is underrated.
Destiny players can't leave because the game aims and hits shots for them which they describe as good "gunplay" and when they try to play another game that doesn't have bullet magnetism they get discouraged from not being able to hit any shots.
All destiny raids can be described as memorize x number of symbols, perform activities until group up and stand still for dps phase, repeat until final stand
As someone with 3k hours in destiny, the remaining players are on a copium drip that has never been seen in gaming before. The game is dead and will never come back and bungie is just squeezing the playerbase for everything they have before it's completely dropped
> good "gunplay" in destiny
>literally shooting a sponge enemy for 30 minutes
>make it 25 mins if you leveled your light level
>You'd think pvp is good - but it's all about using broken weapon that obliterates enemy in 0.5 seconds before said weapon gets taken down for fixes
Whoever says "destiny has good gunplay" should fricking himself.
That has nothing to do with gunplay, though. It's all about how guns FEEL to use rather than mechanical balancing.
Despite how guns FEEL - it gets really boring to shoot same enemies for fricking hours. Even if you like something to do - it gets really fricking boring if you do it over and over and over for hours. Even from playing vidya you need some rest if it's some big-ass game to play.
yes, and as I said they "feel" good because they haveextremely generous aim assist and bullet magnetism to the point that aim assistance is a tracked stat on guns. Watching popular destiny youtubers try other shooting games and shit the bed is hilarious because they rely so much on the gun aiming for them or ability spam. If you want to turn your brain off then sure it's fun but the only reason people call it "good" is because the game basically plays for them.
this
as for what
is gibbering about, the balance between feedback for rounds impacting an actor and feeling "weighty" versus "spongy" without also making the actor completely trivial to the player is something that can't be readily achieved by Destiny 2 because it simply wasn't designed that way and it has fricking 300 gorillion weapons at any given moment, try balancing that shit; you can't
>try balancing that shit; you can't
Oh right, true, they're small indie company, we can give them some re-
>Creators of Halo
Frick off with this bullshit, you fricking Black person. Don't make 300 gorillion weapons then, you fricking destiny shill.
>thinks that pointing out an observable fact is shilling when it's actually just pointing out that they fricked up
Would you look at the time, furgay? Meds-o-clock, Thorazineland awaits.
That's not shilling dude. While the rest of the schlock doesn't make up for it, Destiny's gunplay is one of its only saving grace, there really isn't any other game like it.
Rule number 1: turn consoomers into fanatics
>How low does the bar need to go before people start withholding payment in 2023?
will NEVER happen, there are too many paypiggies slopping up that goyslop and even if (BY SOME MIRACLE) stop supporting shitgames then you still have Larry Fink's BlackRock ESG funding.
So yeah, we're all stuck with slop
>MARATHON WILL HAVE DEDICATED SERVERS
>WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT, THIS TIME
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
morons will never get enough shootyslop
>bungie representatives unironically stating quality doesn't matter, that it's bad to over deliver- all that matters is to rush content out.
lol really? Were they on shrooms at the time?
>game is so greedy but it's not Bungie fault!
>Poor Bungie, stuck with an evil publisher!
>get rid of the publisher
>greed only goes up
Same shit with IOI. Publishers weren't the bad guys after all.
>I'm sure the shareholder-fellating publishers were trying to break out of their gimpsuit and were trying to make good games
anon...
bet no one here has even played destiny but continue to play shitSGO, cod goyslop, gacha shit, and Hero arena shooters
>don't play shit games
>mongrel turd eater gets defensive and insists that I must enjoy munching on some other kind of feces
Every time
Hearty chuckle anon, thank you.
you forgot your clapping emotes with that
representatives unironically stating quality doesn't matter, that it's bad to over deliver- all that matters is to rush content out.
context?
The worst part is, that these gays got the standalone multiplayer TLOU canned, presumably because it lacked the shitty content drip feed model of Destiny. Microsoft truly dodged a bullet by not buying Bungie.
>tfw my brother exclusively plays only the grindiest games in existence
>doesn't even have fun, just mindlessly consumes looter shooters and korean MMOs during all his free time
>Patch in major story content as seasons
>Patch out each season as time goes on
>Nothing makes any sense unless you have been paying for each season since the start
>Full priced expansions are gutted of 80% of their content when the next cycle rolls around
I genuinely don't know how Bungie gets away with it and how there are so many "I play fur duh campaign" morons that throw their money at them. Skipped out on a few seasons or god forbid an entire expac cycle? Frick you, go watch lore videos to get a basic understanding of the fricking plot.
whats so bad about it?
Next expansion will add optional tipping menu when you login, and they will make billions more.
It'll never make a difference. Bungie simps are so numerous everything will be pre ordered + sell like hotcakes. Don't even get me started on the losers in the steam forums.
Reality is sometimes painful.
>>#1 pre-ordered product on steam
What window? The most pre-ordered product this weekend? Also: citation needed.
>>5 million new players since last year
Meaningless metric for a f2p game.
retention is higher than it's ever been
Citation needed, steam charts don't corroborate this, at all. The peak player count in the last 30 days is almost at the lowest that it's ever been. And the game has been losing players since April.
In short: you're moronic.
shoo go back to /vg/ where dead games belong Black person worshiping trannies
I bought it because of the they/them character. Representation matters and I will continue to buy games that give me proper representation.
Is player retention really that high? I played lightfall up until the raid and gave up on it. The expansion was utter shit, the raid was pants on head moronic. They even had the gall to waste their most interesting villian and use him as a cumrag for the witness. Why anyone is still playing is beyond me.
>How low does the bar need to go before people start withholding payment in 2023?
the perfect question that sums up modern gaming, i mean people bought that new Gollum game, look how that turned out.
gaming as a whole is so fricking shit now it's incredible, years and years of mediocre shit has lowered people's expectations to this being the norm now
>destiny 1 and it's much better artstyle will forever be stuck with 30fps
It hurts bros, the armors look so much better than anything they come up with in D2
Voting with your wallet is a lie. Capitalism is a lie. Your brain can be hacked. You can be aware of that fact that your brain can be hacked and that won't change a thing. You're not immune to brain hacking.
I like it
It's fun
I'll never understand bungie simps, every single fan is always talking shit about the game and how worse and worse it gets but they keep consooming everything.
Destiny 2 players are eternally butthurt that the game is great but not quite as great as they want it to be and also it's expensive as frick, so they will review bomb every expansion that comes out but they will keep buying all of them and they will keep playing.
Destiny fans have something like stockholm syndrome, it's actually insane. People either play each new expansion for a week and drop it (paying a lot for the "privilege" as well) or they are just hopelessly addicted to a game that seems to have astonishingly little to offer. Bungie has at least been working hard to perfect getting inside people's heads, since they've decided not to work on gameplay
Anon, you don't understand how fricking cheap video games are compared to other sources of entertainment.
The amount of money they'd waste for a DLC would have otherwise been wasted on an overpriced artisan coffee or ice cream.
Wasting money is how corporate capitalism is literally supposed to work, and why boycotting usually doesn't work.