It's almost christmas and I want to replace my shitty bootleg 360 controller with something much more reliable, wireless, etc. What do I get specifically? 8bitdo Ultimate or GameSir T4 Cyclone Pro? Or suggest more controllers if you must.
CONTROLLERS
>wireless
>reliable
yes
Everything is paracord these days.
kingkong 2 pro
that's what I have
I just use the Xbox controller and Bluetooth it to my computer. I have literally zero problems.
How old are you? Bluetooth has noticeable input lag but I guess it's fine if you're a boomer and can't tell the difference
Noticeable input lag if you're gaming on a Bluetooth controller from 2006
No, it's inherent to the protocol Mr techlet
No you lose games because you suck. You're the guy who says he loses because he doesn't play on a 240hz monitor. No anon, you suck because you suck.
That depends on controller you can have 1000mhz polling rate on DualShock 4 via bluetooth.
No issues beating Elden Ring, Sekiro, all that hot shit. Must be your brain, cause modern Bluetooth is tight.
Why do homosexuals still think wireless shit has ten years of input lag? Everything from wireless mice, keyboards and controllers are all just as good as wired now a days. If it's good enough for pro players, what makes you think your dumbass is being hindered in any way.
a lot of tards on Ganker are stuck in 2005 mentally and think all bluetooth stacks are the same as the one they used on a giant receiver for a wireless mouse from 2004
Poorgays can't afford actual quality stuff so they're basically ill-informed.
it depends
yeah you won't have to worry about it if you only buy playstation or xbox controllers but with other companies i would not be so sure
funnily enough i think lots of 8bitdo controllers have less input lag on bluetooth than wired
People do not play FPS with bluetooth mice little buddy.
Who said anything about bluetooth mice, little homosexual? And what the frick is your pic even supposed to be?
Everyone you illiterate nonce
You responded to my post and I didn't say shit about BT mice
if you're not using pure analogue input on a CRT you should just have a nice day right now
kys
i got the new xbox controller and its alright
series controller is pretty gewd for pc, dualsense is supported by steam now too but the battery life kinda sucks on it.
Dualsense/series are probably most comfortable for price imo but obviously your taste may differ. 8bitdo controllers feel a bit chheap by comparison
I had a lot of controllers over the year and I must say that the DualSense PS5 is the best one I had. Although I do miss the swappable batteries of the Xbox controllers.
the rubber on my 8bitdos thumbstick literally rotted off. Never had that happen with a controller before- had to buy some chinesium replacement rubber caps lmao.
would not recommend.
>Gamesir
Who the frick thought this was a good name?
a sir who likes games.
or a butler.
Yeah, right? I buy all my controllers because of their name.
i certainly dont buy shit that sounds like an indian knock off brand
That would be because you're an easily manipulated consoomer who buys based off feelings, instead of the factual utility of the stuff.
Anyone use this guy? My PS2 controllers are dying and my Dualshock 3 is long dead
>have one of the old 8bitdo SN30 Pros that still had the full SNES controller look
>PCB design on the SN30 Pro hasn't changed at all so if I want to spruce it up I can just port the guts into the SNES shell
This thread is relevant to my interests.
Currently I just have a Sony DS3 (Ps3 controller) I've been using with SCP toolkit on windows so I can play with a controller, but its not that great, for one I get random disconnections and other issues with this controller.
What's the best controller for gaming on windows 10 these days? Assume its the xbox series x controller? Is the basic version on its own enough? Do they come with a USB cable to plug in and use or should I be getting the "elite" or some other priced up variant?
Playstation layout your best bet is a PS4 controller, Dualsense, or an 8bitdo Pro 2 controller
Xbox layout look at the 8bitdo Ultimate or one of the Gamesir controllers
Just plug it in for frick's sake man. SCP is also outdated as crap if you're going to use that shit.
i wish the switch pro controller didnt have such bad quality stick rubber. i like that controller its very comfortable to use but falls apart quick.
Xbox Series controller with wireless receiver.
Only because I refuse to use a controller without AA batteries. I sorely want gyro, touch pads, and back buttons but I guess I'll have to wait until valve gets off their ass and makes the steam controller 2.
logitech f310
There's a better option now if you only have $20 and you want a controller
hmmm interesting
Also comes in green
There's a 2.4Ghz wireless version if you feel like paying $5 to $10 more
The 8bitdo ultimate is the best controller I've tried and it's not even close
I just use a stadia controller that my friend gave me. I'm cheap.
anybody else who has dissassembled the different controller also impressed by how intricately and well-built the xbox controllers (specifically the one and series controllers) are?
like i have taken apart my ps4 controllers (not the dualsense yet) and they were SHIT. like i was amazed how cheap and flimsy they were but the xbox controller are actually nuts how well made they are. only massive flaw is that the xbox requires prying of the plastic shell to get inside so you almost always damage them, and the PS4 controller have exposed screws.
i find both of the Powerful Computer Box controllers to be insanely overcomplicated for what they actually do, it's actually nuts how simple the chinese controllers like 8bitdo are for an identical or better feature-set and a way lower price point. the series X controller is somebody at microsoft having a fricking giggle and being given an infinite budget, 100% the engineers having no oversight and populating a PCB just for the sake of populating it
oh i agree they are overbuilt like crazy. like the cable routing for the analog rumble is completely unnecessary, and the bumpers being one piece that then gets clamped down by the top piece, or just something as the B button being like twice the depth of the other buttons because the controller curves back on the sides and they want to keep them on the same plane.
over-complicated, but WAY more well-made than the DS4 is what im saying. DS4 is much more simple to work on, but is creaky and flimsy as hell and also frick ribbon cables.
the xbox controller is like the juicero machine, it has no right to be as complicated and over-built as it is but its still to the benefit of the consumer lol
shame about the face buttons
Are you from opposite world? Man I sure wish I lived in a world where Xbox controllers weren't flimsy and shit. These things fell off a cliff in build quality since the 360 days. You're laying it on pretty thick, too.
> still to the benefit of the consumer
That's why the audio jack in my Xbox One controller is distorted and crackly. It's over-engineered brilliance and I'm just not able to fully grasp it's greatness. That must be it.
Off a fricking cliff. Microsoft hasn't made a good controller since the wired 360. And that was a niche product. The normal version with the battery pack gave you finger cancer after long sessions. See as a boomer with now 5 Xboxes across 3 generations I remember these things. You can't fricking lie to me.
The xbox controllers are not "well built" at all. They are overdesigned and prone to higher rates of failure than even cheapass chinese $15 shit.
i mean i havent really done any research into failure rates in controller but i highly doubt that. ive been using the same white series s controller since the day they released and other than replacing the analog rubber after it worn down ive never had a single issue with it yet. my ps4 controller only had issues because the ribbon cables inside get shitty if you need to pop them open to replace sticks enough, but the controller itself feels like crap.
They were literally sued for that. My xbox series shock blue controller started drifting after like 2 months.
sony has been sued over the dualsense.
nintendo has been sued over the joycon.
theyve all been sued. unless you have some kind of data and not just consumers b***hing because they probably beat the piss out of their controllers, bye.
>gamesir
you can't make this shit up lmao
gameSAAR
lmao we have an EE larper here
if taking apart a controller and noticing its PCB is way more complicated than a chinese controller that does all the same shit makes me an electrical engineer, then this shit is way easier than i thought it would be
It makes you a larper, as stated in the post.
i'm not going to wear the larper hat when we're both looking at a controller PCB with fifty billion filler components. sit down.
k larper, next time make up some shit about what those components do and how they're not needed, doesn't have to be correct, it'll sound more convincing
(You)
DS5 was on sale for 40€ during black friday, works well enough even without installing DS4windows now that steam somehow supports it.
I want to see more testing from the Gamesir controllers with Hall Effect sticks. I mean, I love my KingKong Pro 2, but the start, select location throw me off at times. Outside of that, it is one of the best controllers I have used with no stick drift after a year of decent use and a good d-pad.
Of the two you suggested, I have an 8BitDo Ultimate and I can confirm it's great. Hall effect sticks if you get the bluetooth version, thinner handles give it a form factor similar to a Pro controller. Buttons and D-pad feel nice, has back buttons, just a solid choice overall.
That said, personally I got one of these recently. It's a 360 controller with the only differences being an actually GOOD d-pad that isn't mushy garbage and feels good to use, and the analog sticks are different being thinner and having less tension than original 360 controllers. Otherwise, feels like a lighter 360 controller, I really missed how nice they feel in the hands.
I spoke in a previous thread of replacing the sticks, but in the end I just shoved some PS4-sized stick extenders and am happy with the feel.
Microsoft's only W this whole console generation has been letting Hyperkin make repops of the Duke and 360 controllers.
Should I get the SNOYstation controller if I want to play with gyro on PC?
As a regular gyro user, the PS4 controller has worked well for me. The track pad is also helpful on PC. Since you will already have to go into controller settings, you should use it both for extra inputs in game things or for changing controller mappings if you end up with a game where different modes may need the controller to be setup differently.
How do you get gyro working on PC? On my DS4 and GoodmorningGameSir my aim keeps drifting when I turn on 'gyro with mouse'.
I use Steam input for gyro with my DS4, but DS4Windows should also work. I have rarely experience what you are describing where the aim will just move at a constant pace without any input. For me, the solution is to simply unplug and replug the controller. Plugging it in while it is on a stable flat surface may help or may just be something I made up. Nintendo controllers also get the same issue and putting them on a flat surface will make them auto re-calibrate, so I am extrapolating from there that keeping the controller motionless while it turns on is important. Steam also has a calibration option, but I feel like it didn't work last time I tried it.
I'll have to try that.
Switch Pro is a good controller, but not reliable in the slightest. Get an Xbox or Dualsense.
*joystick creaks*
There is no controller with
>Hall effect sticks
>a good dpad
>gyro
>easily replaceable batteries
Why is Microwiener so obtuse about gyro?
What console games even use gyro? I guess you could argue that if microsoft made it a standard in their controllers, then devs would have to take it into account, but many Playstation and switch games don't even have gyro even though the players are all guaranteed to have it.
Pretty much all shooter games on Switch use gyro for aiming to great effect. Playstation has it but refuses to really use it beyond "immersive" gesture controls. I don't know why Microsoft continues to pretend it doesn't exist because GameInput, Xinput's drop-in replacement, does have accelerometer and gyro support, but what's the fricking good of having it if Microsoft won't adopt it?
Where can I get a saturn controller for PC with dual triggers and a decent dpad since the fighting commander Octa is dogshit? I'm dying here bros
For me-ow its the Vader 3 Pro.
Your cat is so fat I thought it was a raccoon for a second
Thats not my cat thats me 🙁
I really hope the Gulikit King Kong 3 will be good. It addressed my main issue with the second one by adding back paddles. Now I'm just hoping the software will be good because I heard that it's faulty.
Between those two I would redeem the GameSir. Personally I'm on a Kong 2 and waiting for the release of the new flappy paddle Gulikit. See there is a flaw in the current KK2: the motor. Underwhelming and a bit noisy because it's kinda packed in there. Motors need room and these are small, dense and oddly heavy controllers. Build quality actually isn't the issue. One and a half years in and this thing is not even thinking of losing it's showroom shine. But room is one thing these things just don't have. My Duke and Halo Xbone look genuinely primitive next to this thing.
So they came up with a solution: Maglev motors. And I'm not kidding. Americans are forgetting how they got to the moon, meanwhile the Chinks are packing maglev motors into video game controllers. Fricking weird timeline.
Looking forward to reviews and discounts on these. (They currently don't qualify for spend x for y off discounts on aliexpress).
Has anybody tried to connect one of those android controllers to a pc? With a USB type-C to type A adapter? Do those have the drivers to be recognized by desktop OS?
There's usually a button to switch between modes on the back. My King Kong switches between Android, Switch and PC. PC is read as Xinput. The funny thing is that the Android mode acts as a DirectInput controller, so it works for old DOS games and such.
not even worth it
just rebind using steam or 360ce
8bitdo has bad grips and tiny face buttons and hurts your hands
No idea why Switch style third party controllers are recommended here so much for PC. They have stuttery gyro when you connect through bluetooth and you get either analog triggers and no gyro in xinput mode or gyro and binary triggers in Switch mode and I don't like how most of them don't have headphone jacks. Dualsense/DS4 style controllers don't have any of these issues, they're just objectively better.
>They have stuttery gyro when you connect through bluetooth and you get either analog triggers and no gyro in xinput mode or gyro and binary triggers in Switch mode
This is Microsoft's fault
>no idea why switch style third party controllers are reconmmended here so much for pc
>can use it as a switch controller when emulating
>can use it as a xbox pad when playing pc games
>some games on pc specifically support switch controllers
I'm gonna have a real hard time wrapping my brian around this
>>can use it as a switch controller when emulating
>>can use it as a xbox pad when playing pc games
>>some games on pc specifically support switch controllers
Literally every modern controller can do the first two and far, far more games have native support for Playstation controllers than Switch ones due to them being out for significantly longer (not that it matters since you should be using Steam input anyway). Only difference is you get both bluetooth and analog triggers at the same time in DS4/5 mode as opposed to only one or the other in either Xinput or Switch mode.
>every controller can do the first two far
playstation controllers are dogshit and I refuse to own them
get a job spergy
Are there actually any good 3rd party snoy style controllers? I agree with most of what you said, but I assumed that the controllers posted here were simply because that is what is available without getting into the excessively over priced options.
>Gamesir
Kek, what shit infested Pajeet came up with this brand
Hated the 8bitdo ultimate, the sides being fully straight is uncomfortable as frick
Xbox controller that takes batteries
Rechargeable batteries
Microsoft wireless adapter
Can’t go wrong
Other than feeling a little soft and mushy what makes the dpad so bad for the dualsense? It seems to work fine for everything.
i heard its not all that percise so you might end up inputing shit by accident
but i guess that only matters for fighters
>8bitdo, who made the best 3rd party symmetrical controller, make their first hall effect pad asymmetrical
>despite plenty such options being avaliable on the market
>and the market for symmetrical being a fricking desert since Sony cut corners again on the dualsense edge
I guess I'll have to have to wait for aftermarket modules for edge
being a clawgay is suffering
Walmart and Amazon have Xbox controllers for 45 right now
Just get whatever. It doesn't matter, its all the same shit. You're not going to play anything anyway.
The more expensive a controller is the shittier it will be.
For me it's the joycons, literally the only split controller out there
wiimote+nunchuk
>wire
I just use an Xbox One controller, works fine
1) Get one of the big 3 (sony nintendo m$). Whichever one you like the best.
2) They all have shit d-pads
3) Avoid chink crap and 8bitdo.
*4) Get yourself some compressed air, contact cleaner, and the correct tools to open them up too. Because they will have issues with dust at some point and you will need to clean them out or buy a new one.
>8BitDo has a Genshin Impact themed Ultimate wireless controller
>Its Chongyun instead of Mona, Raiden, Yae Miko, or any of the other female cast members
>MFW
Godammit! They better released other themed ones.
I use the Stadia controller. After the service died they released a firmware update that allows you to connect it to your pc via Bluetooth. Previously it was wifi only with cloud, or wired if you wanted local play.
I really like it. Good texture, nice buttons, high quality feel. Play Sekiro with it no issues so input lag isn't a problem, otherwise never had any problems.
Bought it used once the service announced its death.
that gamesir controller looks feature packed, honestly better than an xbox controller. hall sticks, hall triggers, back buttons, clicky dpad, clicky abxy (which i have never seen before, wonder how that actually plays), wired connection, two different wireless connections depending on your situation, gyro control. that's kind of fricking moronic for something that is going for 42 dollars on amazon right now. what the frick is the catch?
There is no catch, the catch is you're getting drilled on first-party controllers these days.
it's a shame i've been looking for an excuse to upgrade from an xbone controller i've had for what seems like 7 years now. no issue with the sticks or anything, just shitty input lag if using bluetooth connection to my steam deck which sucks but is a known problem. looking at that gamesir rekindled the interest but i don't really know.
fricking mouse switches? lmao really? i figured they were going for the type of switches used in like a gba sp or the ones in the joycons.
Those metal dome switches are called tactile switches.
"clicky" usually refers to actual mouse switches
you can probably find at least one controller that uses dome switches but in general yes controllers that advertise they use clicky buttons means that it uses omron or other microswitches. it's part of the "mechanical buttons... for GAMERS" wank that infests keyboards. speaking of joycons, get one of those extremerate shell swaps that has a d-pad on the left joycon, they turn the directional buttons into a very sexy playstation vita-style d-pad
pic related
thats actually disgusting.
you're just gay
mechanical buttons are better
memebranes are trash and I don't care if console gays have been stockholm syndromed into them
I would rather actually have buttons and analog sticks worth a shit and built to last
my nes and snes controllers still fricking work perfectly after 25 years. i've gone through like 10 mice since 2007 because omron switches are fricking terrible. i don't think putting something as flimsy as a mouse switch into buttons that people literally mash on is a good idea in the slightest.
mouse buttons and what's on controllers are completely different
also arcade sticks use mechanical buttons
the whole point of gaming was to get arcade quality and console gays have just been washed overboard and are drunk and confused about their own gender for the last 10 years
i understand what you're saying, but and i understand how arcade switches work, but there are no arcade cabinets from the 90's or even 2000's that use omron microswitches like those found in a mouse. the switches found in arcade cabinets are larger and more durable.
"Clicky" means it uses fricking mouse switches. You know the type that's loud as frick and double clicks in a couple years.
You'll go deaf using it.
basic xbox series controller is all you need
if you want wireless get the adapter to avoid any potential issues with bluetooth. i had problems using bluetooth with controllers before and it was a pain in the ass, with the adapter it just works