The coolest character vs the absolute lowest IQ character in design. Darth BANDON is the stupidest fricking name and to make him look like a great value brand Fred durst should have gotten someone fired.
All the KOTOR darths are implied to have names slightly off their normal-ass names.
So Malak is just Alec, Darth Brandon, Revan is Evan.
It's some kingdom hearts shit tbqh.
If you take the comic as canon then it's just a corruption of his name he used as a disguise but liked enough to keep using long before he fell to the Dark Side
To be fair, Old Republic times were different, the baggage like rule of two wasn't there yet. It'd be unsurprising if some Sith or Dark Jedi picked titles just because they sounded cool (in their opinion), or picked just something to work with the title, rather than making intimidation the only standard.
The problem is, there's no real consensus on the origin of 'Darth' as a title. Comics and games taken together actually imply Revan and Malak invented it because prior to their turn at the end of the Mandalorian War no other Sith had ever used it.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>inb4 Darth is a name
Doesn't the title Darth just mean Dark lord of the Sith?
6 months ago
Anonymous
I mean technically but as it's used it's Darth <Made up name>, while none of the ancient Sith Lords actually used either the title OR invented names for themselves.
Naga Sadow was the last Dark Lord of the Sith Empire but he never used Darth and was never referred to as anything but Naga Sadow. Exar Kun and Ulic Quel-Droma fancied themselves Sith and never took the title. Darth Revan is the first example of a Sith Lord using both Darth and a nom de guerre.
6 months ago
Anonymous
An emergent tradition, then? A sort of formal standard to complete the set, so to speak.
Jedi are highly formal, it stands to reason Sith eventually would have their own titles, which just happens to be this one.
And only one, I think. In this way, shows rather well how Sith view the world, doesn't it? There are are those who are worthy of explicitly one primary title, and the rest simply don't matter.
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's probably got some "Tsar/Czar/Ceasar/Kaisar" overtones of "successful sith used it historically and we want to tie ourselves to our forebears" shit to it too.
6 months ago
Anonymous
An apt comparison.
6 months ago
Anonymous
These retcons never mad much sense anyway
>Le evil heckin 1000000 year old Sith Emperor just keeps to himself in the Unkown Regions while Exar Kun brings the Galaxy to its knees after taking the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith
Yeah, I know he was conceived purely for the mmo but it’s still bullshit. Some of the lore in KOTOR doesn’t really make much sense, too
>Sith Academy on Korriban was built by the disciples of Exar Kun shortly after the war >For whatever fricking reason, the Jedi Order doesn’t even so much as bat an eye to these surviving sith acolytes >But the Trayus Academy on Korriban was there for a gorillan years and even survived the cataclysm
6 months ago
Anonymous
It's a bit of a stretch, but one can posit that there are dogmatic reasons as a part of some ancient treaty only the wisest Jedi and Sith know, a sort of Holy Lands analogue, primary Jedi and Sith sites are of limits.
Or the Sith could've just made disabused the Jedi somehow.
Maybe there are constant psy-ops to stop the Jedi from ascertaining the situation, or some contemporary war logistical issues apply.
6 months ago
Anonymous
The Darth title may have come from the True Sith Empire in hiding. Also it's established that the Sith Empire were sending spies and uncover Jedi to disrupt as much they can before invading.
any kotor1/kotor2 like games? i hate new games; i just got cybershit and the way it makes me watch cutscenes 85% of the time makes me want to swallow a grenade. GRENADE!!!
See I ask this in every kotor thread and never get a response. Frick all of you stupid people. Can't blame you guys though because 95.8% of you are actual chatbots and the remainder that are nonrobots are Indian
has there been a biggest shaggydog story than the entire KOTOR duology? The main characters spent two games cleaning up their own mess and then got fricked by the Sith Emperor again during TOR anyway.
>shaggydog
I'm not sure what the term actually means, but in your context it really is sad.
Arguably that'd be Sequels themselves and perhaps ME3.
Reasons are likely abstract and esoteric.
Personally I'm of a belief that Revan could've steamrolled the Sith and the entire galaxy even without the Star Forge so hard the movies wouldn't ever happen, and I'm unsure if the Sith Emperor was the actual original intention and not a later creation, that's to say the story has been derailed again.
The funny part of KOTOR and the scrapped 3 is that the whole "there's a SITH EMPIRE waiting out in unknown space to come and get us all" is literally just the plot of the first two stories in the Tales of the Jedi comic.
So not only is KOTOR as a setting already based on and built directly off of TotJ, it also takes its major plot twist from events that have already happened
>Vitiate
Nihilus written by someone who hated 2 and any nuance Nihilus had in being both the most powerful Sith ever and the weakest, doomed to suffer and die from his power
The only stuff I know about Nihilus is that he's a devouring monster that's hungry a lot, plus some, but that does make sense.
Still can't run Kotor 2.
Long story short: Nihilus was created at Malachor when a great and terrible weapon destroyed all life on the planet and both the Republic and Mandalorian fleets in orbit, as Revan's way of ending the war while getting rid of the soldiers he knew wouldn't follow him into the New Sith Empire. Being in the middle of such death caused a great ripple in the Force that almost tore him apart but instead left him a living Wound in the Force itself, filled with a terrible hunger and the ability to drain the life from those around him.
But the hunger is insatiable and feeding only makes it worse. Like Vitiate he would eventually have consumed every living thing in the galaxy, unlike Vitiate he would have eventually starved to death in absolute agony in the remains.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Spooky. Vitiate is bit more on the cosmic horror side, then? Does he possess some other qualities that ensure he doesn't simply uproot canons (which might as well be dead now) again?
Why didn’t Lucasarts focus on creating more content set during the Old Republic Era? It would’ve been cool to have a game take place during the Hundred Year Darkness. Is it so much to ask for a Star Wars game in the style of Elder Scrolls?
I replayed this game 2 or 3 yeras ago and I have no idea who you are talking about. KOTOR 1 is such an overrated game it's unreal. Kashyyk and the water planet were fricking awful and the game tried to paint tusken raiders as gud boiz who dindu nuffin. The only characters I fondly remember are the mandalorian and the assassin robot party members.
Without him, Revan would never have known how to move the mouse to the edges of the screen to rotate the camera.
Nor would he know that he can move the mouse while holding down the right mouse button to rotate the camera as well.
>the game tried to paint tusken raiders as gud boiz who dindu nuffin
It painted them as violent raiders who nonetheless had a legitimate grievance with Czerka coming in from offworld and exploiting Tatooine for all they could get from it
*CLANG* *CLANG*
*BOOM* *BOOM*
*SHCHEEK SHUU-SCHEEK*
*DING*
The coolest character vs the absolute lowest IQ character in design. Darth BANDON is the stupidest fricking name and to make him look like a great value brand Fred durst should have gotten someone fired.
BANA KUN DES CHAGGA PUGGA
THIS ANON GOT DABBED ON
BY DARTH BANDON
BANGA BOONGA
All the KOTOR darths are implied to have names slightly off their normal-ass names.
So Malak is just Alec, Darth Brandon, Revan is Evan.
It's some kingdom hearts shit tbqh.
No, that's just Lucas's Sith Lord naming convention.
Bandon as in Abandon.
Revan as in Revanchist.
Malak I can't recall.
If you take the comic as canon then it's just a corruption of his name he used as a disguise but liked enough to keep using long before he fell to the Dark Side
To be fair, Old Republic times were different, the baggage like rule of two wasn't there yet. It'd be unsurprising if some Sith or Dark Jedi picked titles just because they sounded cool (in their opinion), or picked just something to work with the title, rather than making intimidation the only standard.
The problem is, there's no real consensus on the origin of 'Darth' as a title. Comics and games taken together actually imply Revan and Malak invented it because prior to their turn at the end of the Mandalorian War no other Sith had ever used it.
>inb4 Darth is a name
Doesn't the title Darth just mean Dark lord of the Sith?
I mean technically but as it's used it's Darth <Made up name>, while none of the ancient Sith Lords actually used either the title OR invented names for themselves.
Naga Sadow was the last Dark Lord of the Sith Empire but he never used Darth and was never referred to as anything but Naga Sadow. Exar Kun and Ulic Quel-Droma fancied themselves Sith and never took the title. Darth Revan is the first example of a Sith Lord using both Darth and a nom de guerre.
An emergent tradition, then? A sort of formal standard to complete the set, so to speak.
Jedi are highly formal, it stands to reason Sith eventually would have their own titles, which just happens to be this one.
And only one, I think. In this way, shows rather well how Sith view the world, doesn't it? There are are those who are worthy of explicitly one primary title, and the rest simply don't matter.
It's probably got some "Tsar/Czar/Ceasar/Kaisar" overtones of "successful sith used it historically and we want to tie ourselves to our forebears" shit to it too.
An apt comparison.
These retcons never mad much sense anyway
>Le evil heckin 1000000 year old Sith Emperor just keeps to himself in the Unkown Regions while Exar Kun brings the Galaxy to its knees after taking the mantle of Dark Lord of the Sith
Yeah, I know he was conceived purely for the mmo but it’s still bullshit. Some of the lore in KOTOR doesn’t really make much sense, too
>Sith Academy on Korriban was built by the disciples of Exar Kun shortly after the war
>For whatever fricking reason, the Jedi Order doesn’t even so much as bat an eye to these surviving sith acolytes
>But the Trayus Academy on Korriban was there for a gorillan years and even survived the cataclysm
It's a bit of a stretch, but one can posit that there are dogmatic reasons as a part of some ancient treaty only the wisest Jedi and Sith know, a sort of Holy Lands analogue, primary Jedi and Sith sites are of limits.
Or the Sith could've just made disabused the Jedi somehow.
Maybe there are constant psy-ops to stop the Jedi from ascertaining the situation, or some contemporary war logistical issues apply.
The Darth title may have come from the True Sith Empire in hiding. Also it's established that the Sith Empire were sending spies and uncover Jedi to disrupt as much they can before invading.
Trask was a moron and if the door hadn't sealed behind him, Bandon wouldn't even have been slowed down by cutting him down.
Trask went to Valhalla. Where are you going when you die?
Banished to Kotor 2 for eternity due to sins
Why is the dialogue in this game nowhere near as bad as BG3’s dialogue
any kotor1/kotor2 like games? i hate new games; i just got cybershit and the way it makes me watch cutscenes 85% of the time makes me want to swallow a grenade. GRENADE!!!
See I ask this in every kotor thread and never get a response. Frick all of you stupid people. Can't blame you guys though because 95.8% of you are actual chatbots and the remainder that are nonrobots are Indian
The answer is no.
Maybe the closest analogue in some ways, is the Dark Messiah.
Thanks friend will look into it later. Have good health and invest in an S&P500 etf. God bless
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has there been a biggest shaggydog story than the entire KOTOR duology? The main characters spent two games cleaning up their own mess and then got fricked by the Sith Emperor again during TOR anyway.
>shaggydog
I'm not sure what the term actually means, but in your context it really is sad.
Arguably that'd be Sequels themselves and perhaps ME3.
Reasons are likely abstract and esoteric.
Personally I'm of a belief that Revan could've steamrolled the Sith and the entire galaxy even without the Star Forge so hard the movies wouldn't ever happen, and I'm unsure if the Sith Emperor was the actual original intention and not a later creation, that's to say the story has been derailed again.
>I'm not sure what the term actually means
Really long set up for an intentionally bad punchline. Sometimes so bad its funny.
A meta joke if you will.
I see. This is a morbidly hilarious, if not outright horrible joke.
The funny part of KOTOR and the scrapped 3 is that the whole "there's a SITH EMPIRE waiting out in unknown space to come and get us all" is literally just the plot of the first two stories in the Tales of the Jedi comic.
So not only is KOTOR as a setting already based on and built directly off of TotJ, it also takes its major plot twist from events that have already happened
Not a bad decision as far long timelines go, but then there's stuff like Vitiate.
>Vitiate
Nihilus written by someone who hated 2 and any nuance Nihilus had in being both the most powerful Sith ever and the weakest, doomed to suffer and die from his power
The only stuff I know about Nihilus is that he's a devouring monster that's hungry a lot, plus some, but that does make sense.
Still can't run Kotor 2.
Long story short: Nihilus was created at Malachor when a great and terrible weapon destroyed all life on the planet and both the Republic and Mandalorian fleets in orbit, as Revan's way of ending the war while getting rid of the soldiers he knew wouldn't follow him into the New Sith Empire. Being in the middle of such death caused a great ripple in the Force that almost tore him apart but instead left him a living Wound in the Force itself, filled with a terrible hunger and the ability to drain the life from those around him.
But the hunger is insatiable and feeding only makes it worse. Like Vitiate he would eventually have consumed every living thing in the galaxy, unlike Vitiate he would have eventually starved to death in absolute agony in the remains.
Spooky. Vitiate is bit more on the cosmic horror side, then? Does he possess some other qualities that ensure he doesn't simply uproot canons (which might as well be dead now) again?
Why didn’t Lucasarts focus on creating more content set during the Old Republic Era? It would’ve been cool to have a game take place during the Hundred Year Darkness. Is it so much to ask for a Star Wars game in the style of Elder Scrolls?
I replayed this game 2 or 3 yeras ago and I have no idea who you are talking about. KOTOR 1 is such an overrated game it's unreal. Kashyyk and the water planet were fricking awful and the game tried to paint tusken raiders as gud boiz who dindu nuffin. The only characters I fondly remember are the mandalorian and the assassin robot party members.
Without him, Revan would never have known how to move the mouse to the edges of the screen to rotate the camera.
Nor would he know that he can move the mouse while holding down the right mouse button to rotate the camera as well.
>the game tried to paint tusken raiders as gud boiz who dindu nuffin
It painted them as violent raiders who nonetheless had a legitimate grievance with Czerka coming in from offworld and exploiting Tatooine for all they could get from it
Bioware really made me hate aliens in Star Wars
Especially the fricking wookiees
They behaved like 3rd world Blacks
Future happy new year to you!