i honestly think there are options for dhelmise, i could see it getting a baby based on, like, a pirate's hook, or maybe even just a fishing lure. it's actually something that's crossed my mind before.
on the topic if babies i think duraludon will get one if they ever bring them back, and tropius SHOULD get one even if i don't think it will, because a little bananasaur would be very cute.
as much as i hate to say it i can't imagine cryogonal getting a proper evolution, but i can totally imagine it getting a mega or some other equivalent gimmick form eventually. it's just too complete of a design already to be a NFE mon.
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i honestly think there are options for dhelmise, i could see it getting a baby based on, like, a pirate's hook, or maybe even just a fishing lure. it's actually something that's crossed my mind before.
on the topic if babies i think duraludon will get one if they ever bring them back, and tropius SHOULD get one even if i don't think it will, because a little bananasaur would be very cute.
I was just pointing out that it is a 1% mon on its debut. Wasn't the image about that?
Of course I dont want cringe preevos that wont be featured on the tgc or shit retcon evos that will overshadow it and misinterpret what it was all about on the first place
>I was just pointing out that it is a 1% mon on its debut. Wasn't the image about that
It is, but I dislike single stage mons, I never use them even if they’re 1-2%, hence this thread.
2 months ago
Anonymous
You should learn to get over that
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Everything has to evolve
Learn some lore about Relicanth, better yet, the animal it is based on. It is basically a real animal that hasn't evolved in milennia
That's why they included it in the franchise. It means some pokemon don't evolve, just like irl.
Pokemon is better for it too, frick forced evolutions that ruin a previously fine mon, even if a mon is not great in battle. They are there for worldbuilding
Dudunsparce and Glimmora have a 1% chance? I swear I saw them all over Area Zero.
I think I need to remake that list with the 1-2% mons in their original games instead of their evolution forms since some people misunderstand it.
You should learn to get over that
It’s an autistic quirk I had since Gen 2 and could never shake it off. The reason is I love my team to evolve as I progress through the game. It’s not a Pokémon adventure if my team doesn’t evolve.
>Everything has to evolve
Learn some lore about Relicanth, better yet, the animal it is based on. It is basically a real animal that hasn't evolved in milennia
That's why they included it in the franchise. It means some pokemon don't evolve, just like irl.
Pokemon is better for it too, frick forced evolutions that ruin a previously fine mon, even if a mon is not great in battle. They are there for worldbuilding
Bro, I don’t fricking care about real animals. Pokémon has always been “evolution” to me. If the mon doesn’t evolve, I won’t even a acknowledge it. > forced evolutions
Why is that a bad thing? No one gonna force you to evolve it. And the Pokémon gonna gain the Eviolite treatment, why is that a bad thing?
I get that non evolving mons are more boring to use on a playthrough, but you seem hyperfixated on the idea.
They are being more sensible with how they do crossgen evos now, but gen IV was HORRIBLE without exeptions and I think Gen II was bad too. Nowadays they pick unpopular mons at least, and sometimes the evo doenst even show up like Wyrdeer in game, so they still acknowledge that Stantler is a complete creature like all previously fully evolved mons should be
ive been playing the games really differently lately now that i've let myself get over a lot of my old, deep seated autistic habits and i've really been enjoying it a lot more. just kind of giving myself the chance to appreciate the things i had some needless disdain towards, like mega evolutions, legendaries, NFEs, and pokémon that don't evolve
I get it alot of them are either just shitty gimmicks like Delibird and Unknown or so late in the game whats even the point like Heatmor.
But then there's dudes like Sigilyph that's the perfect monostage. Doesn't feel like it needs to evolve or needed a pre-evo, just exists as a weirdo hanging out in the desert.
glimmet has a 1% spawn rate in every cave in paldea despite being very common in area zero, and dudunsparce only has a 1% chance of being 3 segment, and iirc is also only a 1% spawn in area zero. also dunsparce was originally a 1% spawn rate mon itself and pretty consistently has continued to be one in most games.
Gen 9 has lots of single-stage mons with 1% encounter rates. I actually thought Veluza had an evolution, but after beating the game and it never evolved, I looked up the dex and found out it's a single-stage mon.
Power Trick swaps the defense stat with the attack stat (but not any boosts). So with Shuckle you could, say, boost with Shell Smash then switch your attack and defense stats and THEN finally attack. If you can survive the lengthy setup anyway.
please let these two escape 450 BST hell
that's basically average for NFE mons anyways
clefable, blissey, azumarill, elektross, dragapult, and baxcalibur are all 3 stage already
and imho the only lines that aren't 3 stage and would really need an evolution are granbull, masquerain, delcatty, chimecho, yanmega, centiskorch, and dudunsparce
but i'm not sure if there's any saving delcatty or dudunsparce given the curse of generic mono-normal types with wide movepools but poor stats and abilities
Dark is overdone, but this is pretty cool
>Abilities: Intimidate/some new ability that isn't explained in the image >Hidden: Unnerve
for what purpose
aren't hidden abilities supposed to be worth using compared to the standard ones to make them worth the effort to get
On one hand I think Sandslash is perfect
On the other hand Sandslash being my ace always feels weird when many other Ground-types outclass him spectacularly.
I wouldn't be strictly opposed to an evolution but I feel like I would have a high chance of hating it
>evo end up getting a broken ability and a better moveset >watch smogontards crying about it and vgc people crying due it being impossible to minmax without pkHeX >then watch multiple dqs from morons with negative iq from badly generating spinda evos >then watch smogon council collapsing for not being able to settle if they should ban it or not
I want that now, the ultimate tard filter
I want a regional line for these where you get a full chess set >Pawniard. Bisharp, Kingambit Dark/Steel (Based on Chesspieces, Black/Red with SteelSword samurai gimmick) >Pawiard, Rooklub, Checqueen Fighting/Rock (Based on Chesspieces, White/Blue with Marble Rocky Club European Knight gimmick.) >Chalvery (A Centaur like evolution that evolves from Bisharp/Rooklub by trading it with a Rooklub/Bisharp)
I'm conflicted. I've wanted a Jynx Evo for decades now. But I know if she gets one it'll probably go against what i like about her design. Granted im sure they'll never touch her again because of the controversy so she's probably safe.
I think a potential Jynx evolution should lean more into a “fat Nordic opera singer” type look, similar to pic related. It would make a lot of sense for her design and would hopefully make people shut the frick up about the controversy (she’s been purple for 20 years dammit).
I always did find it strange how G. Zigzagoon's line took after Poochyena's color palette.
That said, I feel like in PLZA we'd either get a natural Mightyena evolution or a Mega, if anything. Not a regional since that line already existed in Kalos. Not that its impossible, looking at Sneasel for example, but I just see it as less likely.
I wouldn't mind Mightyena going bipedal as long as the design was good. Obstagoon's problem is that it literally has human arms and legs. They can make something bipedal while remaining bestial.
Oh I agree 100%
Unfortunately what we want isn't always what's likely. With Megas returning, I unfortunately see us losing a number of cross-gen evo "slots" to make room for new Megas.
And with Mightyena already appearing in Kalos, I feel like a new Mega is more likely than a new evolution.
And again, that's if Mightyena gets anything at all.
The way I see it: >Nothing is most likely, statistically >New Mega evolution, since we're definitely getting new ones >New evolution, less likely since there will be less slots and Mightyena already existing in Kalos hurts its chances here a bit >New regional form, even less likely since, again, Mightyena already exists in Kalos (Though still not impossible)
>With Megas returning, I unfortunately see us losing a number of cross-gen evo "slots" to make room for new Megas.
The realization just made me lose excitement for PLZ-A.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, hate to be the bearer of bad news man.
PLA had like 26-28 new designs. 7 were new Pokemon altogether (9 if you count Enamorous and Basulegion as two each) and 19 were new forms of existing Pokemon.
But now you got to take new Mega evolutions into account, plus I'm sure we'll see one or two lines get look-alike Pokemon (Stuff like Wiglett)
You could split it up 9/9/9 new Pokemon (Including lookalikes), regional forms, and Megas, but there's no telling what the actual split will look like.
I like Mega returning and I'm excited to see new designs, but it does suck that they'll be taking away from potential cross-gen evolutions.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'd be fine with megas if they stuck to three stagers or already busted guys. Why did audino need a frickin mega.
2 months ago
Anonymous
now that PLA and SV established cross-gen evos are still on the table at all after the 10 year dry spell probably caused by megas tbh i'm not too worried about PLZA focusing on megas, since i can have a reasonable level of confidence that the next game will be business as usual. lately they seem to be really on the ball with doing what fans want to see, we got a good mix of regional forms, convergent mons, paradox mons which are roughly equivalent to other regional gimmick mons like megas in terms of, like, dev resources spent and design philosophy, and normal cross-gen evos in SV - they didn't just laser focus on one thing, so i'm not that worried about it going forward. i don't think you need to be either.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I appreciate your insight man. I hope you're right. I really want to see more cross-gen evolutions.
Maybe we'll end up with both for Mightyena. It gets a standard evolution, which can then Mega Evolve.
That's be based beyond belief as long as the standard evolution is good in its own right.
I'd be fine with megas if they stuck to three stagers or already busted guys. Why did audino need a frickin mega.
I feel that Pokemon like Audino are the best candidates for Megas. It gives under appreciated 'mons something new that makes them worth using again. Just look at Kangaskhan, Pinsir, or Mawile for example. Without Megas, they suck. But with? They become powerhouses.
Problem is with Audino is that the Mega itself sucks.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Give me one good reason for Audino or Mawile to have megas instead of just a straight evolution.
2 months ago
Anonymous
as a long time lover and evolution-wanter of both i can think of at least 2 >they're already well rounded, complete designs that don't necessarily need a direct upgrade >with a mega they get to have the spotlight on themselves rather than being left behind for an evolution (ex: bisharp)
if you already love a mon there's nothing truly wrong with them getting a form that's just more of them rather than an evolution. it's actually kind of nice that a shitmon like mawile can have the chance to be usable on its own merits, sort of. the alternative is just eviolite, after all. will say it took me an entire decade to get used to it though
mega audino is good btw, although it objectively (in my opinion) should have had regenerator
2 months ago
Anonymous
>although it objectively (in my opinion) should have had regenerator
IMO Mega Sceptile should've has regenerator.
Its whole shtick is that it shoots off its tail like a projectile and rapidly regenerates it.
Imagine Mega Sceptile with Regenerator and U-Turn. That'd be dope.
2 months ago
Anonymous
regenerator shed tail mega sceptile would be wicked cool, busted as hell but still wicked cool
2 months ago
Anonymous
>regenerator shed tail with 145 speed
and you thought cyclizar was bad
2 months ago
Anonymous
>regenerator shed tail with 145 speed >and you thought cyclizar was bad
Wow I completely forgot about Shed Tail. Guess my mind was stuck in Gen 6.
Man now I'm really hoping this happens. Since Megas have been gone for so long, perfect opportunity to make some changes right?
Sure, abilities weren't in play in PLA, but that doesn't mean they won't come back here.
Honestly I feel like Mega returning means abilities WILL be in PLZA since some Megas' whole shtick revolves around a special ability.
Looking at you, Mega Kangaskhan.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Mega Mawile would still be shit without its ability. Not as shit as base Mawile but still shit
Dewgong. Not only is it a fairly easy design to expand upon without messing up, but it's been outclassed in every regard from the very start of the series' and is the only pinniped line without a third stage. Though, really, anything would suffice - just give it something.
I don't think Dhelmise needs an evo but there is potential for regionals. After all, if the real Pokemon is just the seaweed and not the anchor, why does every Dhelmise grab the same random junk in the same order?
the point of dhelmise is that it's a pirate's face, so they've pigeonholed themselves in terms of other options for things to construct it out of. it could be done but it really can't be just any old object.
I don’t give a frick about what you think, bro. Corsola has been one of my favorites for over 2 decades and for over 2 decades, I always dreamed about it evolving. What they did to it was a huge middle finger to me, and I’ll never forgive them for it.
i just don't understand how you're not happy that the corsola family now functionally has three members rather than one. i love corsola, i love galarian corsola, and i love cursola. if it wasn't based on coral bleaching itself due to ocean acidification and dying it wouldn't exist at all, so it needed a ghost type corsola to evolve from. it's not like it even takes away the chance for regular corsola to evolve, regionals are purely additive, it's not the be all end all that something like a mega would be. they could just as easily give it a standard evolution or somehow make johtonian cursola, and they probably will eventually. there literally is not a reason to be mad about it if you already like corsola, shitmons are more fun to play the game with anyways.
They could have just made Corsola evolve into Cursola by having Mareanie in the team. Lore-wise, it makes sense, and it’s more fun like that.
2 months ago
Anonymous
that is fun, damn it that's such a good idea. great way to make johtonian cursola a thing, at least.
2 months ago
Anonymous
heres your corsola bro my mareanie only ate a little bit
2 months ago
Anonymous
That'd require a retcon and GF bends over backwards into their asses to avoid those for evolutions.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Aevery weird evo has eventually retconned anon.
Milotic? Contest Stat into Prism Scale trade
Glaceon? Ice Rock radiation into Ice Stone
Leafeon? Moss Rock radiation into Leaf Stone
Magnezone and Vikavolt? Literal radiation into Thunder Stone
only deviants nowadays are Probopass still needing radiation, sylveon still needing amieshit, Malamar and pikeSpain Palafin and the walking shitters
Every weird evo can be retconned, besides, its not like partner evolutions arent a thing since gen4 with Mantyke (or lack of one in Shedinja's case since Gen3) Pangoro needing a Dark bro to evolve too and Im sure im forgetting someone else
2 months ago
Anonymous
Thought those were just for PLA but I'll take the lump if they really did get rid of the stupid location evolutions.
That said prism scale didn't exist before so arguably isn't a retcon. Lore wise probably existed in the world but we never came across one in those gens is autistic but sorta how it is
2 months ago
Anonymous
the only thing PLA added was the Link cable item that allows you to evolve trade evos yourself, which, funnily enough is coded in SV along the Pet block for Ursaluna and the axe thing for the Axe Scyther evo but somehow are inaccessible
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Probopass still needing radiation
Changed to Thunder Stone like the others >Sylveon still needing amieshit
Changed to Friendship evo with a Fairy Move
You forgot Crabominable, but it's also been retcon to Ice Stone
Nta but blame megas and PvP. Megas are cool but they ruined the perception of what alternate forms can be, it instilled the idea that alternate forms only worthwhile if they help a pokemon in PvP, and you can't blame people considering how much TPC shills VGC or how Game Freak always ensures their favorites get constantly buffs. "If PvP doesn't matter why doesn't Charizard need so many forms?" A regional helps flesh out the lore and ecology of a Pokemon, but for the general audience they can't compete with the flash and prestige of a Pokemon essentially becoming a super saiyan.
They could have just made Corsola evolve into Cursola by having Mareanie in the team. Lore-wise, it makes sense, and it’s more fun like that.
That makes sense, but I'm guessing Game Freak felt it would be too morbid. It's one thing to have a Pokemon based on bleached coral, its another to have the player themselves feed a pokemon to its predator.
Btw, decided to make my own evolution for Johtonian Corsola, loosely based on a tank/artillery gun/phalanx and a coral colony. The idea is that they band together to protect themselves from Toxapex .It's just a draft, hope to make it more unique from Falinks and add more details. .
really want this thing to be the first pokémon to gain the bug type on evolution >why?
spider monkey
I'm not
bug is a non-scientific blanket word that most generally refers to all land dwelling arthropods and even some other invertebrates like worms and snails. what you mean is spiders aren't insects, which is true but not relevant.
[...] >I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
this is basically exactly what i had in mind, four tails holding it above the ground. real vivid in my head, at least. maybe i'll draw it sometime.
but seeing his inspired me to make my own, Went in the the direction of turning its hair into arms instead of giving it more tails.
>Their purpose was to make worthless moeblobs that only exist to take up space.
They were made to utilize egg moves, at least back then and to kind of give some Pokemon a balance in their growth. Munchlax serves a purpose unless you think Snorlax should be the first stage of a three-stage evolution.
>unless you think Snorlax should be the first stage of a three-stage evolution
Most people consider Munchlax to be one of the good babies, its only issue is that its so rare it's more practical to transfer in a Snorlax and breed that for Munchlax, which defeats the main benefit of baby pokemon.
2 months ago
Anonymous
re: ambipom, lol that you told me you're not me. i know, I'M me!
i've actually also done a design for normal/bug ambipom, although it was quite a while ago and i was designing a regional form rather than an evo. that's why i brought it up actually, since you posted yours i'll post mine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
LOL meant to tag the anon you were responding to, oh well
Interesting design, do you have a bug Aipom to go with it or does it evolve from normal Aipom?
I would have said Pinsir because of it's movepool screams Bug/Fighting instead of Bug but either keep its tpying as Bug or go the Bug/Ground type route so people won't b***h about two Bug/Fighting types even though it makes more sense.
I think Pinsir’s type should just be changed to bug/fighting. He’s basically Heracross’ counterpart so it feels weird to have one be obviously better than the other.
I'd prefer if Pinsir stayed mono Bug. I've always figured that Pinsir was more about raw brute strength while Heracross had a slight focus on technique justifying its fighting type. Monotype should get a slightly stronger STAB to make up for the fact they only have one.
Though if Pinsir absolutely needs a second type. Ground could work.
which is impossible to use ingame without autistically memorizing every single Pokemons moveset. Whether they be important trainers, random trainers, or even just wild Pokemon
always thought it would be fricking cool for parasect to get a nincada-style split evo where you got both the bug/ghost spirit of the dead bug and the grass/ghost mushroom growing on its immobile corpse
>Tauros evolves with Ancient Power, becoming an aurochs >Cryogonal evolves by using Sheer Cold a certain number of times. Don't know what it'd evolve into, but it'd have the Blizzard equivalent of Primordial Sea / Desolate Land / Delta Stream
Yes please. And a jothonian overqwil. Obstagon and Cursola probably wouldn't work with the regular variants, but they could make equivalents on the same vain as Quagsire and Clodsire are.
Hot take, but Regular farfetch'd should be able to evolve to Sirfetch'd.
i absolutely agree about sirfetch'd, although at the same time the way they handled farfetch'd in SWSH, with both forms available in the wild, has me thinking the galarian form'll be soft-retconned as a rare form instead - perhaps specifically as an invasive species from galar. then sirfetch'd could be used normally in other games going forward without the need for it to evolve from standard farfetch'd in the first place.
Maybe on planet moron, population: You.
The concept of regional forms is the cancer, not the designs. Mega evolutions, regional forms and Paradoxes are evidences that GameFreak are not just lazy and creatively-bankrupt, but also don't respect the series and its fans.
>the concept of regjonal forms is the cancer
to quote a wise anon, maybe on planet moron, population: you. it's the most soulful thing they've added to the series since following pokémon, it's great worldbuilding and a perfect way to recontextualize existing designs, while also reflecting real world ecology. convergent mons are good for the same reason, it makes sense in the setting and exists to add depth to the world. it's a 30 year old JRPG series, worldbuilding like this is a good thing and should be expected.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Corsola didn't need a regional form, it needed a direct evolution. Same with Mr Mime, Farfetch'd, and Linoone. They fricked over beloved originals with shitty generational gimmicks for the sake of meme promotional tactics.
Convergent Pokemon aren't as bad, since they're unrelated species, but still a lazy concept.
2 months ago
Anonymous
corsola didn't need anything, it's already just fine. it's nice that it got a regional form with an evolution, and it would be nice if it just got an evolution, but it's not something it NEEDS.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t give a frick about what you think, bro. Corsola has been one of my favorites for over 2 decades and for over 2 decades, I always dreamed about it evolving. What they did to it was a huge middle finger to me, and I’ll never forgive them for it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Got fricking filtered son, sorry about that. Shoulda took better care of the oceans.
2 months ago
Anonymous
heres your corsola bro my mareanie only ate a little bit
If I may barge in for a second, I am turbo salty about how they handled Cursola on the stats end.
>50 Base defense >Both abilities are based on eating contact moves, which are almost entirely physical
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah it's pretty filthy what they did to it. at least it gets strength sap.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm honestly fine with its stats and abilities, can work around them, it's just the fact that it's not a Johto Corsola evolution, so I won't use it even if its stats and abilities are broken.
this isn't some list where I'm trying to balance the tiers. Hell, there's stuff in the top tier I dislike and things in the bottom tier I like. All that matters is how I feel about them compared to the original
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm just sayin how you hating on vengeful corpse fox
Maybe on planet moron, population: You.
The concept of regional forms is the cancer, not the designs. Mega evolutions, regional forms and Paradoxes are evidences that GameFreak are not just lazy and creatively-bankrupt, but also don't respect the series and its fans.
I dont know why it didnt have a sandstorm form since it'd at lead justify it having equal attack and special attack if one of its formshifts gave it a rock form
bug is a non-scientific blanket word that most generally refers to all land dwelling arthropods and even some other invertebrates like worms and snails. what you mean is spiders aren't insects, which is true but not relevant.
I always had a regional form in my head for that, rather than an evolution. A Mega could work too, though.
I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
>I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
this is basically exactly what i had in mind, four tails holding it above the ground. real vivid in my head, at least. maybe i'll draw it sometime.
I always had a regional form in my head for that, rather than an evolution. A Mega could work too, though.
I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
A part-Fire Sunflora evo would be pretty cool.
Problem is I don't think we've ever gotten a Pokemon that had an evolution specifically after evolving once already via stone.
Closest thing is like Porygon, but that's, well, Porygon.
Isn't really pattern gayging to say they don't give evolutions to Pokémon that evolve via stone. Just how it is man, won't say its impossible for them to decide to do it but if you put your money on it happening your an idiot.
I was trying to think of a Ground Pokémon that really needs an evolution. Stunfisk is the only one without, Whiscash and Camerupt are both two-stages with terrible stats (though latter has a mega).
But I'd guess I'd go with Wormadam. Two-stage, atrocious stats, no alternative Bug/Ground available.
>marathoning Diamond >complete a regional livingdex just for the heck of it >think how crazy it was back then having all these cross-gen evos and prevos >suddenly realize that outside the shitty origin Dialga/Palkias from PLA and Megas no Sinnoh pokemon has cross-gen evos on future games nor prevos nor regional variants
Given how hard GF shills Sinnoh after Kanto it's weird they haven't done anything "special" with its pokemon
after Sinnoh was when GF started going "OK no more cross region evolutions" with the only one being Sylveon until SWSH (assuming you count those because they're still stuck to the regional forms). Everything else was forms for whatever gimmick they were pushing which was commonly mostly spread to Kanto and whatever regions were getting games. BDSP being "faithful" meant they didn't get a surplus of Gigantimax forms like Hoenn did with megas
There's not really much for them to work with, if you take the cynical approach of "why waste time on a total shitmon"
Most of Sinnoh's Pokemon are either already crossgen, already popular in their own merits and thus overshadowing them would be undesirable (i.e. Piplup/Croagunk being prevo or, Lucario/Chomp getting megas instead), are already 3 staged or are completely neglected unpopular mons like Carnivine or the Burmy family. Add on other potential restrictions like "fossilmon" or "pikaclone", gimmicks like Chatot or Spiritomb and of course the mons that already got megas - you're really not left with many mons they would realistically want to touch.
Floatzel, Drapion, Bronzong and Skuntank (which seems to have some dev bias given it keeps appearing in every game) are the only ones that feel like they have a chance of ever crossgenning.
lumineon and carnivine should get something. male combee evo would also be kino.
i wonder if they would do anything with the cherubi or burmy lines since they both already have gimmicks going for them. i hope they give gen4 pokemon some megas after pla did nothing
tbh a make combee evo that is knight based would be cool. To compensate for the fact that male combees are far more aviable, you could make it's evolution method more complicated, like thye have to defeat several whild vespiqueens to evolve or something.
I kinda think the same, nowadays crossgen evos/regional variants are pretty much nostalgia bait and as much as I like gen 4 that spot is reserved to Kanto pokemon >besides most sinnoh pokemon are too strong
nowadays who gives a damn? Even Garchomp got powercreept HARD this gen and by the looks of it that's going to be the norm from now on regarding pokemon, super tuned up pokemon that powercreep even the top pokemon from the previous gens, at this rate they could give Skarmory the shittiest evo possible and eviolite Skarm would end up mehhh, and paradoxically that also prevents old stuff from getting new toys since unless the result is stupid good most people wouldn't care and thus GF just says nope, >have these new type of pokemon, we called then McGuffinMons, none of them evolves, all have 650 BS, no 750 BST!, no 1000 BST! all of them are minmaxed, can setup while setting hazzards, weather, and terrain! they also work as Mixed Hyper offensive AND as revenge killers, they also do your taxes, your mom and your bully's mom too! BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! They also run for office, and after doing stuff they get 8 Nobel badges they can equip to get more stats, their ability now includes Intimidate AND a special variant of it that procs EVERY TURN!
they come in RED, BLUE and GREEN!
>and Game Freak doesn’t give regionals to Pokemon they love
you can't seriously believe this > >That’s why they went out if their way to pick starters everyone hates (Wingless CHARIZARD. Pool toy, and School Shooter Owl) from regions everyone hates (Kanto’s Backyard, Knock off Kanto, Kanto’s vacation spot)
oh, you don't, you're just shitting up the board with spam. die in a fire <3
Jynx with a trade item evolution
More dawn stone evolutions (How did they not utilize this stone more)
Cacturne
Something for Zangoose and Seviper
Lunatone/Solrock evos
Male Combee evo (Dawn Stone)
Scrafty
Gothitelle (Dawn Stone)
Vanillish (Surprised they never played around with this one too)
Heatmor
Durant
That's just off the top of my head. Have an oldie from 2010.
Because Game Freak didn't know what they were doing when making baby pokemon otherwise Miltaur would be a gift baby you get for helping that silk Miltank. The fact the some babies actually do something interesting is just a coincidence. Their purpose was to make worthless moeblobs that only exist to take up space. Whether you believe the conspiracy theory that Baby Pokemon were made to pigeonhole Johto as Kanto's unwanted baby brother, or a simple matter of Game Freak always being incompetent to some extent is up to you.
>Their purpose was to make worthless moeblobs that only exist to take up space.
They were made to utilize egg moves, at least back then and to kind of give some Pokemon a balance in their growth. Munchlax serves a purpose unless you think Snorlax should be the first stage of a three-stage evolution.
>the game treats them as male/female of the same species >despite this breeding with them is clumsy, since in order to get Tauros you need to breed it with a Ditto rather than an actual Miltank >they both appear like mature adults, its weird seeing them hatch out of the egg with those designs >a baby form would let you acquire them much earlier than they are typically available because of their stat total
This is why I said babies serve a purpose with filling holes. Plus a baby pre-evo could have a unique move that both parties could utilize. But Miltank being bipedal and Tauros being a quadruped is a bit jarring.
I don't want them being connected personally. It's like a Mantine/Remoraid relationship, that's more than enough and if the 'fans' had their way, you'd have a pre-evo tied to both Pokemon as well as trying to make Alomamola into Luvdisc's evolution. Discus and Moonfish aren't the same thing.
I kinda feel like its now or never for a Dragon Eeveelution.
Part of me thinks we won't get one just because of how much marketing they've already done with that line. Since Sylveon, they have buckled down on Eevee. Tons of sets with the full line, etc. Even though making one would just make them more money, maybe they don't want to outdate any toys they're currently selling or something?
At the same time though, Sylveon appeared alone in Kalos. Making a Dragon Eeveelution in the game where we return to Kalos would just FEEL right, you know?
I kinda feel like its now or never for a Dragon Eeveelution.
Part of me thinks we won't get one just because of how much marketing they've already done with that line. Since Sylveon, they have buckled down on Eevee. Tons of sets with the full line, etc. Even though making one would just make them more money, maybe they don't want to outdate any toys they're currently selling or something?
At the same time though, Sylveon appeared alone in Kalos. Making a Dragon Eeveelution in the game where we return to Kalos would just FEEL right, you know?
And it also just occurred to me that this year is the Year of the Dragon.
Granted the game comes out in 2025, but this year will still be the year to market something like that.
Maybe its copium, but I feel like the greatest chance for a Dragon Eeveelution is now in PLZA.
Kalos introduced the Fairy type, meant to nerf Dragon, and Sylveon was the debut of that.
It just seems fitting to come full circle and introduce a Dragon Eeveelution in our return to Kalos.
And if Gen 10 does land in 2026 for the big 30th Anniversary, I can potentially see a Protean Normal Eeveelution. Maybe.
I agree, the two designs clash something awful. If I had my way they wouldn't be related. Just going off established precedent.
Honestly they'd probably be better off just making a whole new cow line with a calf pre evo then trying to figure out how to make a calf that somehow can convincingly evolve into one of them.
Feel like them being the same is a dropped or just forgotten aspect, pretty sure miltank isn't in SV
Why the frick wouldn't you want an straight up evolution? Unless you're one of those homosexuals who cries about muh designs over its usability. Mawilegays got monkey-pawed hard.
counterpoint an evolution isnt going to be as explosive as a mega evolution and it still lets you use the base pokemon without replacing it entirely
and theres always playing showdown if you really want to keep using it
I will say this one more time, what the frick would you NOT want Ledian to get a permanent upgrade given its overall stats? Do not even pretend you use it in any serious manner.
I'm going to assume you are trolling because there is literally no one on Earth who thinks Ledian is fine as is.
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Improve your reading comprehension.
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Anonymous
I read what you said. And the only thing explosive about a mega evolution is exploding the chance for Ledian to be viable without a damn gimmick. And >Bringing up Showdown
The fact that I even replied to you should be considered a privilege.
Your not using ledian you'd be using mega ledian, you'd be pressing the mega evolve button not even a second after its out.
So congrats instead of at least letting some moron out there using eviolite to get something out of it, you can larp your using it instead of its mega. Which you won't be using cause anyway cause there'll be something else occupying that slot instead.
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yes anon as we all know giving a pokemon evolite improves its viablity
especially a low hp high special defense bug flying type with poor support options for its type
at least a mega lets me make a cool team around it
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And an evolution wouldn't? At least they wouldn't be stuck keeping that same shit HP or be limited to only adding 100 BST. A Mega would look just as different than a regular evolution
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>Thread about crossgen evos >Drooling zoomer/Gen Alpha moron talking about his first game's shitty flavor of the gen's gimmick which will be forgotten come Gen 10
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It'd still be a shitmon but at least your actually using it. You ain't making a team around ledian your making a team around a ledian evolution pretending to be a super power.
>Solrock and Lunatone
Can evolve from Minior with Sunstone or Moonstone, respectively. Can evolve INTO Minior with a new Comet Stone. Can each also evolve with the opposite stone (Moonstone for Solrock, Sunstone for Lunatone) into a new form called Galaxite. >Carnivine
Evolves from a new evolution for Bellsprout, called Beltrapt. >Tropius
Has a baby form called Wyfern. Evolves into Branchiosaur. >Sigilyph
Evolves when you have two or more Unown in the party, consuming all Unowns. Sigilyph's ability is determined by which Unown are used to evolve it. >Volbeat and Illumise
Breeding them gives you an egg which hatches into a new baby called Lumva. Can evolve into either Volbeat or Illumise. They in turn evolve into different forms of Eclaridy, bug/electric. >Shuckle
Evolves into two forms: bug/rock Diamolith, or bug/steel Chromicle.
I mean sure I guess but the Remoraid already on Mantine was basically doing that before Dragapult so also not really, it's just the same thing as Mantine now but bigger.
I would have said Pinsir because of it's movepool screams Bug/Fighting instead of Bug but either keep its tpying as Bug or go the Bug/Ground type route so people won't b***h about two Bug/Fighting types even though it makes more sense.
I think Pinsir’s type should just be changed to bug/fighting. He’s basically Heracross’ counterpart so it feels weird to have one be obviously better than the other.
They ought to give Pinsir a signature move, which they sometimes do for older mons, like Tauros and Heatmor both got. Some sort of Bug-type throwing move.
In Gen 1 this should have been Vice Grip obviously, but they made it Normal for no reason?
I think Pinsir’s type should just be changed to bug/fighting. He’s basically Heracross’ counterpart so it feels weird to have one be obviously better than the other.
It should stay pure Bug. Maybe give it a Fighting-type Steelwork. But it should stay pure Bug.
These are Gen II's only single-stage Pokemon that haven't been given any evolutions or forms (if you don't count Iron Bundle). What would you do with them?
Smeargle could make a regional variant work, or evolve with a certain move known. Delibird could use a basic evolution and Skarmory could work with a preevo or baby. Shuckle is strange, maybe a variant that swaps its defenses for attack and an ability that always allows it to go first.
Miltank is fine as is, but I can see it getting something.
I think Arbok's evolution could be Poison/Psychic, based around its belly pattern. Regeneration could be its ability too with U-Turn as a move it learns when it evolves.
>I think Arbok's evolution could be Poison/Psychic, based around its belly pattern
That's actually brilliant
Found pic rel online. Its meant as a regional form, but with some tweaking it'd serve great as an evolution.
Here me out though. It's actually just two Furrets working together. No design changes, just two Furrets for the price of one. Much better stats. Double the Furret. Easy win.
i've had a similar idea but kangaskhan. instead of the baby being out of the pouch but still a baby, it's grown up and now there are two adults. its name, of course, is kangaskhans
Based. I miss crossgen babymons. One of my fondest Pokemon memories was me and my friends being mind-blown by the babymons we hatched from the eggs the Daycare gave us in Pokemon GS.
why even say this with such confidence when you're literally operating on the same level of knowledge as everyone else? you don't know shit about what they'll do either, and now i just hope it IS a sweeper so you'll have to eat those words.
>1%ers
What?
They're obviously the Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerburg of their world
Jews
Pokemon with 1% encounter rate in their original games.
Dhelmise?
I was actually gonna add it with Tauros and Crayogonal, but it’s super unlikely to get an evo or a pre-evo given its design and the idea around it.
i honestly think there are options for dhelmise, i could see it getting a baby based on, like, a pirate's hook, or maybe even just a fishing lure. it's actually something that's crossed my mind before.
on the topic if babies i think duraludon will get one if they ever bring them back, and tropius SHOULD get one even if i don't think it will, because a little bananasaur would be very cute.
A pre evo Dhelmise should be the plant part alone
as much as i hate to say it i can't imagine cryogonal getting a proper evolution, but i can totally imagine it getting a mega or some other equivalent gimmick form eventually. it's just too complete of a design already to be a NFE mon.
I was just pointing out that it is a 1% mon on its debut. Wasn't the image about that?
Of course I dont want cringe preevos that wont be featured on the tgc or shit retcon evos that will overshadow it and misinterpret what it was all about on the first place
oops, i don't think i meant to reply to your post lol. my bad
>I was just pointing out that it is a 1% mon on its debut. Wasn't the image about that
It is, but I dislike single stage mons, I never use them even if they’re 1-2%, hence this thread.
You should learn to get over that
>Everything has to evolve
Learn some lore about Relicanth, better yet, the animal it is based on. It is basically a real animal that hasn't evolved in milennia
That's why they included it in the franchise. It means some pokemon don't evolve, just like irl.
Pokemon is better for it too, frick forced evolutions that ruin a previously fine mon, even if a mon is not great in battle. They are there for worldbuilding
Dhelmise evo should be an entire ghost pirate ship.
do you really count 2nd and 3rd stage evolutions when their 1st stages are more common?
also Cryogonal wasn't 1% in Winter
I think I need to remake that list with the 1-2% mons in their original games instead of their evolution forms since some people misunderstand it.
It’s an autistic quirk I had since Gen 2 and could never shake it off. The reason is I love my team to evolve as I progress through the game. It’s not a Pokémon adventure if my team doesn’t evolve.
Bro, I don’t fricking care about real animals. Pokémon has always been “evolution” to me. If the mon doesn’t evolve, I won’t even a acknowledge it.
> forced evolutions
Why is that a bad thing? No one gonna force you to evolve it. And the Pokémon gonna gain the Eviolite treatment, why is that a bad thing?
I get that non evolving mons are more boring to use on a playthrough, but you seem hyperfixated on the idea.
They are being more sensible with how they do crossgen evos now, but gen IV was HORRIBLE without exeptions and I think Gen II was bad too. Nowadays they pick unpopular mons at least, and sometimes the evo doenst even show up like Wyrdeer in game, so they still acknowledge that Stantler is a complete creature like all previously fully evolved mons should be
ive been playing the games really differently lately now that i've let myself get over a lot of my old, deep seated autistic habits and i've really been enjoying it a lot more. just kind of giving myself the chance to appreciate the things i had some needless disdain towards, like mega evolutions, legendaries, NFEs, and pokémon that don't evolve
I'll use a single non evolving mon on a team. I can headcanon it as the experienced elder is I must.
this is the way to do it, would probably work really well with drampa or dunsparce
>never used Lapras
>never use Heracross
>never used Sigilyph
You're really missing out man. Just try it.
>most of my faves are single stagers
Well I'll be
Refusing to use any pokemon that don't evolve is a special kind of autism. Telling me you've never used fricking Lapras?
Some I get cause the don't feel fully evolved like most the pikachu clones but man that's like 5% of them at most.
You wouldn't get it
I get it alot of them are either just shitty gimmicks like Delibird and Unknown or so late in the game whats even the point like Heatmor.
But then there's dudes like Sigilyph that's the perfect monostage. Doesn't feel like it needs to evolve or needed a pre-evo, just exists as a weirdo hanging out in the desert.
Dudunsparce and Glimmora have a 1% chance? I swear I saw them all over Area Zero.
glimmet has a 1% spawn rate in every cave in paldea despite being very common in area zero, and dudunsparce only has a 1% chance of being 3 segment, and iirc is also only a 1% spawn in area zero. also dunsparce was originally a 1% spawn rate mon itself and pretty consistently has continued to be one in most games.
>Clefable can be found in the wild in RBY
Had no idea
it is not in the wild in rby
Gen 9 has lots of single-stage mons with 1% encounter rates. I actually thought Veluza had an evolution, but after beating the game and it never evolved, I looked up the dex and found out it's a single-stage mon.
Is Orthworm the Shuckle of Gen 9?
'fraid so
Incorrect, Orthworm can actually deal meaningful damage.
>He doesn't know
Kek what a clueless b***h
What's this?
Power Trick swaps the defense stat with the attack stat (but not any boosts). So with Shuckle you could, say, boost with Shell Smash then switch your attack and defense stats and THEN finally attack. If you can survive the lengthy setup anyway.
Klawf, too
please let these two escape 450 BST hell
that's basically average for NFE mons anyways
clefable, blissey, azumarill, elektross, dragapult, and baxcalibur are all 3 stage already
and imho the only lines that aren't 3 stage and would really need an evolution are granbull, masquerain, delcatty, chimecho, yanmega, centiskorch, and dudunsparce
but i'm not sure if there's any saving delcatty or dudunsparce given the curse of generic mono-normal types with wide movepools but poor stats and abilities
>Abilities: Intimidate/some new ability that isn't explained in the image
>Hidden: Unnerve
for what purpose
aren't hidden abilities supposed to be worth using compared to the standard ones to make them worth the effort to get
On one hand I think Sandslash is perfect
On the other hand Sandslash being my ace always feels weird when many other Ground-types outclass him spectacularly.
I wouldn't be strictly opposed to an evolution but I feel like I would have a high chance of hating it
These three
Miltank. Also
>Spinda
Will never happen due to the gimmick
What does it gimmick have to do with anything?
>evolved spinda becomes orderly, with all spots moving to 1 specific pattern
>BDSP Spinda is still broken
>won't swallow their pride and fix it/contract someone else to help/accept inversing the patterns for nearly 3 years
>when Spinda evolves, a random value between 60 and 120 is given to each base stat
>evo end up getting a broken ability and a better moveset
>watch smogontards crying about it and vgc people crying due it being impossible to minmax without pkHeX
>then watch multiple dqs from morons with negative iq from badly generating spinda evos
>then watch smogon council collapsing for not being able to settle if they should ban it or not
I want that now, the ultimate tard filter
You will get mega evolution and you will like it
ill take it
worked for ol sable eyes
I will not use it and ignore it like I ignored megaslop the first time.
Dednne
How do you want it to be? Super fast sweeper?
i don't particularly care what it does, as long as it's actually good at something (and still very cute ^_^)
i would like it actually!
You'll get a baby that is an even smaller seed than sunkern and you will like it
that sounds like something Game Freak would be stupid enough to do.
>Pre evo
have a nice dayt
Although...
>Wanting cross gen evos
have a nice day
>wanting evos
kys
>wanting new Pokemon
kys
>wanting old Pokemon
kys
basically just kys
What's with the zoomers and Gen A kids having a hate boner towards pre-evos and crossgen evos?
Caring about old, less popular mons is kino
But prevos are never useful
And evos are always in a different art style, so they always look weird compared to the original
>is kino
You underage homosexuals use buzzwords wrong and without knowing their meaning.
>they always
No they don't, you're exaggerating.
where is my queen
I want a regional line for these where you get a full chess set
>Pawniard. Bisharp, Kingambit Dark/Steel (Based on Chesspieces, Black/Red with SteelSword samurai gimmick)
>Pawiard, Rooklub, Checqueen Fighting/Rock (Based on Chesspieces, White/Blue with Marble Rocky Club European Knight gimmick.)
>Chalvery (A Centaur like evolution that evolves from Bisharp/Rooklub by trading it with a Rooklub/Bisharp)
Literal cancer, as expected from nugen zoomers
Wanna explain why or are you just wanting to be a fricking homosexual about it for attention like the pathetic prostitute you are?
Now type that without weeping.
If she doesn't evolve from a pawniard after crossing the region map, I don't want it
I've been waiting my entire life
I'm conflicted. I've wanted a Jynx Evo for decades now. But I know if she gets one it'll probably go against what i like about her design. Granted im sure they'll never touch her again because of the controversy so she's probably safe.
I think a potential Jynx evolution should lean more into a “fat Nordic opera singer” type look, similar to pic related. It would make a lot of sense for her design and would hopefully make people shut the frick up about the controversy (she’s been purple for 20 years dammit).
Shit, forgot the image.
Snorlax
One day.
Regular lioone and corsola and qwiflish getting their own cross gen evos. Red/blue basculin too.
Also
based, this actually crosses my mind as a distinct possibility somewhat regularly. would love to see it
Here's your evolution bro
I always did find it strange how G. Zigzagoon's line took after Poochyena's color palette.
That said, I feel like in PLZA we'd either get a natural Mightyena evolution or a Mega, if anything. Not a regional since that line already existed in Kalos. Not that its impossible, looking at Sneasel for example, but I just see it as less likely.
I wouldn't mind Mightyena going bipedal as long as the design was good. Obstagoon's problem is that it literally has human arms and legs. They can make something bipedal while remaining bestial.
Please not a mega. Mightyena deserves a cross gen evolution, no seasonal gimmick that cucks it of a real buff every time the mechanic is shelved.
Oh I agree 100%
Unfortunately what we want isn't always what's likely. With Megas returning, I unfortunately see us losing a number of cross-gen evo "slots" to make room for new Megas.
And with Mightyena already appearing in Kalos, I feel like a new Mega is more likely than a new evolution.
And again, that's if Mightyena gets anything at all.
The way I see it:
>Nothing is most likely, statistically
>New Mega evolution, since we're definitely getting new ones
>New evolution, less likely since there will be less slots and Mightyena already existing in Kalos hurts its chances here a bit
>New regional form, even less likely since, again, Mightyena already exists in Kalos (Though still not impossible)
>With Megas returning, I unfortunately see us losing a number of cross-gen evo "slots" to make room for new Megas.
The realization just made me lose excitement for PLZ-A.
Yeah, hate to be the bearer of bad news man.
PLA had like 26-28 new designs. 7 were new Pokemon altogether (9 if you count Enamorous and Basulegion as two each) and 19 were new forms of existing Pokemon.
But now you got to take new Mega evolutions into account, plus I'm sure we'll see one or two lines get look-alike Pokemon (Stuff like Wiglett)
You could split it up 9/9/9 new Pokemon (Including lookalikes), regional forms, and Megas, but there's no telling what the actual split will look like.
I like Mega returning and I'm excited to see new designs, but it does suck that they'll be taking away from potential cross-gen evolutions.
I'd be fine with megas if they stuck to three stagers or already busted guys. Why did audino need a frickin mega.
now that PLA and SV established cross-gen evos are still on the table at all after the 10 year dry spell probably caused by megas tbh i'm not too worried about PLZA focusing on megas, since i can have a reasonable level of confidence that the next game will be business as usual. lately they seem to be really on the ball with doing what fans want to see, we got a good mix of regional forms, convergent mons, paradox mons which are roughly equivalent to other regional gimmick mons like megas in terms of, like, dev resources spent and design philosophy, and normal cross-gen evos in SV - they didn't just laser focus on one thing, so i'm not that worried about it going forward. i don't think you need to be either.
I appreciate your insight man. I hope you're right. I really want to see more cross-gen evolutions.
Maybe we'll end up with both for Mightyena. It gets a standard evolution, which can then Mega Evolve.
That's be based beyond belief as long as the standard evolution is good in its own right.
I feel that Pokemon like Audino are the best candidates for Megas. It gives under appreciated 'mons something new that makes them worth using again. Just look at Kangaskhan, Pinsir, or Mawile for example. Without Megas, they suck. But with? They become powerhouses.
Problem is with Audino is that the Mega itself sucks.
Give me one good reason for Audino or Mawile to have megas instead of just a straight evolution.
as a long time lover and evolution-wanter of both i can think of at least 2
>they're already well rounded, complete designs that don't necessarily need a direct upgrade
>with a mega they get to have the spotlight on themselves rather than being left behind for an evolution (ex: bisharp)
if you already love a mon there's nothing truly wrong with them getting a form that's just more of them rather than an evolution. it's actually kind of nice that a shitmon like mawile can have the chance to be usable on its own merits, sort of. the alternative is just eviolite, after all.
will say it took me an entire decade to get used to it though
mega audino is good btw, although it objectively (in my opinion) should have had regenerator
>although it objectively (in my opinion) should have had regenerator
IMO Mega Sceptile should've has regenerator.
Its whole shtick is that it shoots off its tail like a projectile and rapidly regenerates it.
Imagine Mega Sceptile with Regenerator and U-Turn. That'd be dope.
regenerator shed tail mega sceptile would be wicked cool, busted as hell but still wicked cool
>regenerator shed tail with 145 speed
and you thought cyclizar was bad
>regenerator shed tail with 145 speed
>and you thought cyclizar was bad
Wow I completely forgot about Shed Tail. Guess my mind was stuck in Gen 6.
Man now I'm really hoping this happens. Since Megas have been gone for so long, perfect opportunity to make some changes right?
Sure, abilities weren't in play in PLA, but that doesn't mean they won't come back here.
Honestly I feel like Mega returning means abilities WILL be in PLZA since some Megas' whole shtick revolves around a special ability.
Looking at you, Mega Kangaskhan.
Mega Mawile would still be shit without its ability. Not as shit as base Mawile but still shit
Luv my christmas three
That's a Digimon
No.
Dewgong. Not only is it a fairly easy design to expand upon without messing up, but it's been outclassed in every regard from the very start of the series' and is the only pinniped line without a third stage. Though, really, anything would suffice - just give it something.
it would be so easy to make the horn longer and call it a narwhal, makes me wonder if they're just sitting on the idea or something
I don't even feel like wishing for any more new Pokemon after Broken Diamond and Smashed Pearl.
I honestly more wish the Switch Generation never happened.
I don't think Dhelmise needs an evo but there is potential for regionals. After all, if the real Pokemon is just the seaweed and not the anchor, why does every Dhelmise grab the same random junk in the same order?
Sunken Treasure Forme and Old Boot Forme
the point of dhelmise is that it's a pirate's face, so they've pigeonholed themselves in terms of other options for things to construct it out of. it could be done but it really can't be just any old object.
GAMEFREAK PLEASE
Ledian and Ariados beg for a third stage
Ditto
Granbull.
this is my #1 most wanted too, ludicrously based
Based Granbull appreciators. If Ursaring can get it, then Granbull can, too.
Gamefreak I know how much you love kanto pandering so please just this once.
All Kanto 'mons are equal but some are more equal then others.
Im convinced gamefreak straight up hated Arbok. Why is its best move Belch? Why doesn't it learn poison fang by level up. It's a goddamn Cobra
>i want corsola to evolve
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
you don't love corsola
meant for
Corsola didn't evolve though, its zombie Galarian cousin did .Corsola is suck beign the same shitmons it always was.
i just don't understand how you're not happy that the corsola family now functionally has three members rather than one. i love corsola, i love galarian corsola, and i love cursola. if it wasn't based on coral bleaching itself due to ocean acidification and dying it wouldn't exist at all, so it needed a ghost type corsola to evolve from. it's not like it even takes away the chance for regular corsola to evolve, regionals are purely additive, it's not the be all end all that something like a mega would be. they could just as easily give it a standard evolution or somehow make johtonian cursola, and they probably will eventually. there literally is not a reason to be mad about it if you already like corsola, shitmons are more fun to play the game with anyways.
They could have just made Corsola evolve into Cursola by having Mareanie in the team. Lore-wise, it makes sense, and it’s more fun like that.
that is fun, damn it that's such a good idea. great way to make johtonian cursola a thing, at least.
heres your corsola bro my mareanie only ate a little bit
That'd require a retcon and GF bends over backwards into their asses to avoid those for evolutions.
Aevery weird evo has eventually retconned anon.
Milotic? Contest Stat into Prism Scale trade
Glaceon? Ice Rock radiation into Ice Stone
Leafeon? Moss Rock radiation into Leaf Stone
Magnezone and Vikavolt? Literal radiation into Thunder Stone
only deviants nowadays are Probopass still needing radiation, sylveon still needing amieshit, Malamar and pikeSpain Palafin and the walking shitters
Every weird evo can be retconned, besides, its not like partner evolutions arent a thing since gen4 with Mantyke (or lack of one in Shedinja's case since Gen3) Pangoro needing a Dark bro to evolve too and Im sure im forgetting someone else
Thought those were just for PLA but I'll take the lump if they really did get rid of the stupid location evolutions.
That said prism scale didn't exist before so arguably isn't a retcon. Lore wise probably existed in the world but we never came across one in those gens is autistic but sorta how it is
the only thing PLA added was the Link cable item that allows you to evolve trade evos yourself, which, funnily enough is coded in SV along the Pet block for Ursaluna and the axe thing for the Axe Scyther evo but somehow are inaccessible
>Probopass still needing radiation
Changed to Thunder Stone like the others
>Sylveon still needing amieshit
Changed to Friendship evo with a Fairy Move
You forgot Crabominable, but it's also been retcon to Ice Stone
Nta but blame megas and PvP. Megas are cool but they ruined the perception of what alternate forms can be, it instilled the idea that alternate forms only worthwhile if they help a pokemon in PvP, and you can't blame people considering how much TPC shills VGC or how Game Freak always ensures their favorites get constantly buffs. "If PvP doesn't matter why doesn't Charizard need so many forms?" A regional helps flesh out the lore and ecology of a Pokemon, but for the general audience they can't compete with the flash and prestige of a Pokemon essentially becoming a super saiyan.
That makes sense, but I'm guessing Game Freak felt it would be too morbid. It's one thing to have a Pokemon based on bleached coral, its another to have the player themselves feed a pokemon to its predator.
Btw, decided to make my own evolution for Johtonian Corsola, loosely based on a tank/artillery gun/phalanx and a coral colony. The idea is that they band together to protect themselves from Toxapex .It's just a draft, hope to make it more unique from Falinks and add more details. .
I'm not
but seeing his inspired me to make my own, Went in the the direction of turning its hair into arms instead of giving it more tails.
>unless you think Snorlax should be the first stage of a three-stage evolution
Most people consider Munchlax to be one of the good babies, its only issue is that its so rare it's more practical to transfer in a Snorlax and breed that for Munchlax, which defeats the main benefit of baby pokemon.
re: ambipom, lol that you told me you're not me. i know, I'M me!
i've actually also done a design for normal/bug ambipom, although it was quite a while ago and i was designing a regional form rather than an evo. that's why i brought it up actually, since you posted yours i'll post mine.
LOL meant to tag the anon you were responding to, oh well
Interesting design, do you have a bug Aipom to go with it or does it evolve from normal Aipom?
I'd prefer if Pinsir stayed mono Bug. I've always figured that Pinsir was more about raw brute strength while Heracross had a slight focus on technique justifying its fighting type. Monotype should get a slightly stronger STAB to make up for the fact they only have one.
Though if Pinsir absolutely needs a second type. Ground could work.
I liked when Arbok got a diferent pattern in gen 3
bug/ghost PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
>ghost instead of fairy
Anon, it's dead. Why would it be Fairy?
Change the mushroom for a random one into a Shiinotic, and boom fairy type
why would a dead cicada ever be fairy
We already have a Bug/Ghost cicada
which is impossible to use ingame without autistically memorizing every single Pokemons moveset. Whether they be important trainers, random trainers, or even just wild Pokemon
we have 3 fire type monkeys and 3 water type turtles, we can have 2 bug/ghost cicadas.
what if what I want a Rock/Ground Walrus?
then i'd say it should be regional walrein , because i want to see ground spheal
>regional walrein
Headbutt a knife
always thought it would be fricking cool for parasect to get a nincada-style split evo where you got both the bug/ghost spirit of the dead bug and the grass/ghost mushroom growing on its immobile corpse
No, it needs two physical Ghost/Grass spilt evos
Porygon3
ugly as frick but the concept itself can be saved
God, Gen 5 was trash.
>that pubic bush
>Tauros evolves with Ancient Power, becoming an aurochs
>Cryogonal evolves by using Sheer Cold a certain number of times. Don't know what it'd evolve into, but it'd have the Blizzard equivalent of Primordial Sea / Desolate Land / Delta Stream
Unironically too gigabased. Hope something like that is in ZA
Sableye
I think it would be cool.
These two are at the top of the list of why I hate Gen five
Jynx and Mr. Mime.
How come Magmar and Electabuzz have evolutions but Jynx and Mr. Mime don't? Absolute unfairness.
These two Pokemon are very problematic and can't be promoted past Gen 4.
2024... i am forgotten....
Regional evolutions don’t count.
you say this like we won't get kantonian mr rime eventually
Yes please. And a jothonian overqwil. Obstagon and Cursola probably wouldn't work with the regular variants, but they could make equivalents on the same vain as Quagsire and Clodsire are.
Hot take, but Regular farfetch'd should be able to evolve to Sirfetch'd.
i absolutely agree about sirfetch'd, although at the same time the way they handled farfetch'd in SWSH, with both forms available in the wild, has me thinking the galarian form'll be soft-retconned as a rare form instead - perhaps specifically as an invasive species from galar. then sirfetch'd could be used normally in other games going forward without the need for it to evolve from standard farfetch'd in the first place.
‘Fraid not
I'd have acknowledged it if it's an evolution of Mr. Mime and not an evolution of the cancer that is a regional form.
this is one of the cases where the regional is better though?
Maybe on planet moron, population: You.
The concept of regional forms is the cancer, not the designs. Mega evolutions, regional forms and Paradoxes are evidences that GameFreak are not just lazy and creatively-bankrupt, but also don't respect the series and its fans.
>the concept of regjonal forms is the cancer
to quote a wise anon, maybe on planet moron, population: you. it's the most soulful thing they've added to the series since following pokémon, it's great worldbuilding and a perfect way to recontextualize existing designs, while also reflecting real world ecology. convergent mons are good for the same reason, it makes sense in the setting and exists to add depth to the world. it's a 30 year old JRPG series, worldbuilding like this is a good thing and should be expected.
Corsola didn't need a regional form, it needed a direct evolution. Same with Mr Mime, Farfetch'd, and Linoone. They fricked over beloved originals with shitty generational gimmicks for the sake of meme promotional tactics.
Convergent Pokemon aren't as bad, since they're unrelated species, but still a lazy concept.
corsola didn't need anything, it's already just fine. it's nice that it got a regional form with an evolution, and it would be nice if it just got an evolution, but it's not something it NEEDS.
I don’t give a frick about what you think, bro. Corsola has been one of my favorites for over 2 decades and for over 2 decades, I always dreamed about it evolving. What they did to it was a huge middle finger to me, and I’ll never forgive them for it.
Got fricking filtered son, sorry about that. Shoulda took better care of the oceans.
If I may barge in for a second, I am turbo salty about how they handled Cursola on the stats end.
>50 Base defense
>Both abilities are based on eating contact moves, which are almost entirely physical
yeah it's pretty filthy what they did to it. at least it gets strength sap.
I'm honestly fine with its stats and abilities, can work around them, it's just the fact that it's not a Johto Corsola evolution, so I won't use it even if its stats and abilities are broken.
Damn you got way too many dudes in worse than original. At least a quarter of them gotta get moved up.
this isn't some list where I'm trying to balance the tiers. Hell, there's stuff in the top tier I dislike and things in the bottom tier I like. All that matters is how I feel about them compared to the original
I'm just sayin how you hating on vengeful corpse fox
I don't like the welts
i made my own list
if you don't like electric rabbi golem we can't be friends bro
Heliolisk not being Electric/Fire was a crime.
i like electric/normal though, normal types are always the coolest and it's great to get some dual type ones once in a while.
>So many water types
>Only one Normal/Water type
>It's HIM.
Can't improve on perfection, anon
give it a water-type rollout move as signature move and some treats because he's a good boy
Do something...ANYTHING with castform. Good Lord this guy needs a helping hand.
Gen 3 is filled with overlooked shitmons that need evolutions
unironically give it the rotom treatement, make the weather forms permanent with an item changes and give them markedly better stats.
>Do something...ANYTHING with castform.
After years it's time for the Sandstorm form !
I dont know why it didnt have a sandstorm form since it'd at lead justify it having equal attack and special attack if one of its formshifts gave it a rock form
Tauros is already too powerful, with an evo, it would be broken.
Granbull and Delcatty
Best dog and best cat deserve better
really want this thing to be the first pokémon to gain the bug type on evolution
>why?
spider monkey
Spiders aren’t bugs
bug is a non-scientific blanket word that most generally refers to all land dwelling arthropods and even some other invertebrates like worms and snails. what you mean is spiders aren't insects, which is true but not relevant.
>I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
this is basically exactly what i had in mind, four tails holding it above the ground. real vivid in my head, at least. maybe i'll draw it sometime.
Tell that to Ariados Galvantula and Spidops
I always had a regional form in my head for that, rather than an evolution. A Mega could work too, though.
I couldn't find a good pic to describe it, but I always envisioned it kinda like Ferrothorn. How its vines stand on the ground with Ferrothorn itself hanging from them.
/vp/bros, give my bro a good evolution
+100 BST
Ability: Huge Power
Type: Fire/Dragon
Irredeemable trash
no u
A part-Fire Sunflora evo would be pretty cool.
Problem is I don't think we've ever gotten a Pokemon that had an evolution specifically after evolving once already via stone.
Closest thing is like Porygon, but that's, well, Porygon.
Dipplin’s basically a stone evolution and he still got an evolution, so there’s a precedent.
>Patterngays
>After Gen 6 happened
Isn't really pattern gayging to say they don't give evolutions to Pokémon that evolve via stone. Just how it is man, won't say its impossible for them to decide to do it but if you put your money on it happening your an idiot.
I was trying to think of a Ground Pokémon that really needs an evolution. Stunfisk is the only one without, Whiscash and Camerupt are both two-stages with terrible stats (though latter has a mega).
But I'd guess I'd go with Wormadam. Two-stage, atrocious stats, no alternative Bug/Ground available.
Although... if Nincada got an alt Bug/Ground evolution, I wouldn't be opposed. I love its color scheme
>marathoning Diamond
>complete a regional livingdex just for the heck of it
>think how crazy it was back then having all these cross-gen evos and prevos
>suddenly realize that outside the shitty origin Dialga/Palkias from PLA and Megas no Sinnoh pokemon has cross-gen evos on future games nor prevos nor regional variants
Given how hard GF shills Sinnoh after Kanto it's weird they haven't done anything "special" with its pokemon
after Sinnoh was when GF started going "OK no more cross region evolutions" with the only one being Sylveon until SWSH (assuming you count those because they're still stuck to the regional forms). Everything else was forms for whatever gimmick they were pushing which was commonly mostly spread to Kanto and whatever regions were getting games. BDSP being "faithful" meant they didn't get a surplus of Gigantimax forms like Hoenn did with megas
There's not really much for them to work with, if you take the cynical approach of "why waste time on a total shitmon"
Most of Sinnoh's Pokemon are either already crossgen, already popular in their own merits and thus overshadowing them would be undesirable (i.e. Piplup/Croagunk being prevo or, Lucario/Chomp getting megas instead), are already 3 staged or are completely neglected unpopular mons like Carnivine or the Burmy family. Add on other potential restrictions like "fossilmon" or "pikaclone", gimmicks like Chatot or Spiritomb and of course the mons that already got megas - you're really not left with many mons they would realistically want to touch.
Floatzel, Drapion, Bronzong and Skuntank (which seems to have some dev bias given it keeps appearing in every game) are the only ones that feel like they have a chance of ever crossgenning.
lumineon and carnivine should get something. male combee evo would also be kino.
i wonder if they would do anything with the cherubi or burmy lines since they both already have gimmicks going for them. i hope they give gen4 pokemon some megas after pla did nothing
tbh a make combee evo that is knight based would be cool. To compensate for the fact that male combees are far more aviable, you could make it's evolution method more complicated, like thye have to defeat several whild vespiqueens to evolve or something.
it should have to be bred with a vespiquen at least 20 times
I kinda think the same, nowadays crossgen evos/regional variants are pretty much nostalgia bait and as much as I like gen 4 that spot is reserved to Kanto pokemon
>besides most sinnoh pokemon are too strong
nowadays who gives a damn? Even Garchomp got powercreept HARD this gen and by the looks of it that's going to be the norm from now on regarding pokemon, super tuned up pokemon that powercreep even the top pokemon from the previous gens, at this rate they could give Skarmory the shittiest evo possible and eviolite Skarm would end up mehhh, and paradoxically that also prevents old stuff from getting new toys since unless the result is stupid good most people wouldn't care and thus GF just says nope,
>have these new type of pokemon, we called then McGuffinMons, none of them evolves, all have 650 BS, no 750 BST!, no 1000 BST! all of them are minmaxed, can setup while setting hazzards, weather, and terrain! they also work as Mixed Hyper offensive AND as revenge killers, they also do your taxes, your mom and your bully's mom too! BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE! They also run for office, and after doing stuff they get 8 Nobel badges they can equip to get more stats, their ability now includes Intimidate AND a special variant of it that procs EVERY TURN!
they come in RED, BLUE and GREEN!
>and Game Freak doesn’t give regionals to Pokemon they love
you can't seriously believe this
>
>That’s why they went out if their way to pick starters everyone hates (Wingless CHARIZARD. Pool toy, and School Shooter Owl) from regions everyone hates (Kanto’s Backyard, Knock off Kanto, Kanto’s vacation spot)
oh, you don't, you're just shitting up the board with spam. die in a fire <3
Pre evo when.
they brought back cross gen evos, they can bring back babies. little babana is surely coming...
Jynx with a trade item evolution
More dawn stone evolutions (How did they not utilize this stone more)
Cacturne
Something for Zangoose and Seviper
Lunatone/Solrock evos
Male Combee evo (Dawn Stone)
Scrafty
Gothitelle (Dawn Stone)
Vanillish (Surprised they never played around with this one too)
Heatmor
Durant
That's just off the top of my head. Have an oldie from 2010.
Why haven't we gotten a shared pre-evo for Tauros and Miltank? Seems like something we should have gotten... over a decade ago
Because Game Freak didn't know what they were doing when making baby pokemon otherwise Miltaur would be a gift baby you get for helping that silk Miltank. The fact the some babies actually do something interesting is just a coincidence. Their purpose was to make worthless moeblobs that only exist to take up space. Whether you believe the conspiracy theory that Baby Pokemon were made to pigeonhole Johto as Kanto's unwanted baby brother, or a simple matter of Game Freak always being incompetent to some extent is up to you.
>Their purpose was to make worthless moeblobs that only exist to take up space.
They were made to utilize egg moves, at least back then and to kind of give some Pokemon a balance in their growth. Munchlax serves a purpose unless you think Snorlax should be the first stage of a three-stage evolution.
>shared pre-evo for Tauros and Miltank
>the game treats them as male/female of the same species
>despite this breeding with them is clumsy, since in order to get Tauros you need to breed it with a Ditto rather than an actual Miltank
>they both appear like mature adults, its weird seeing them hatch out of the egg with those designs
>a baby form would let you acquire them much earlier than they are typically available because of their stat total
This is why I said babies serve a purpose with filling holes. Plus a baby pre-evo could have a unique move that both parties could utilize. But Miltank being bipedal and Tauros being a quadruped is a bit jarring.
I agree, the two designs clash something awful. If I had my way they wouldn't be related. Just going off established precedent.
I don't want them being connected personally. It's like a Mantine/Remoraid relationship, that's more than enough and if the 'fans' had their way, you'd have a pre-evo tied to both Pokemon as well as trying to make Alomamola into Luvdisc's evolution. Discus and Moonfish aren't the same thing.
Give me DRAGON EEVEE
Why they didn't pair a dragon Eevee with Sylveon is perplexing. Maybe the dragon evo would have eclipsed it.
I kinda feel like its now or never for a Dragon Eeveelution.
Part of me thinks we won't get one just because of how much marketing they've already done with that line. Since Sylveon, they have buckled down on Eevee. Tons of sets with the full line, etc. Even though making one would just make them more money, maybe they don't want to outdate any toys they're currently selling or something?
At the same time though, Sylveon appeared alone in Kalos. Making a Dragon Eeveelution in the game where we return to Kalos would just FEEL right, you know?
And it also just occurred to me that this year is the Year of the Dragon.
Granted the game comes out in 2025, but this year will still be the year to market something like that.
Why did we not get a new Eeveelution since Gen 6?
to screw over chloe specifically
Give me a normal type Eevolution with Protean
Dragon Eevee first though.
Both, in gen 10
Maybe its copium, but I feel like the greatest chance for a Dragon Eeveelution is now in PLZA.
Kalos introduced the Fairy type, meant to nerf Dragon, and Sylveon was the debut of that.
It just seems fitting to come full circle and introduce a Dragon Eeveelution in our return to Kalos.
And if Gen 10 does land in 2026 for the big 30th Anniversary, I can potentially see a Protean Normal Eeveelution. Maybe.
I had the same idea for the Dragon evo you had, and I hope it happens, but that idea for a Normal evo would be perfect.
Anyone else thinks Delcatty deserves an evolution? Just look at those sad stats. Best cat deserves the evolution.
Its atrocious what they did to it.
Honestly they'd probably be better off just making a whole new cow line with a calf pre evo then trying to figure out how to make a calf that somehow can convincingly evolve into one of them.
Feel like them being the same is a dropped or just forgotten aspect, pretty sure miltank isn't in SV
They already buffed Normalize, what do you want more?
a single stat higher than 70, obviously?
An evolution or a Mega evolution...?
>Something semi-eternal vs shitty gimmick that will be killed after next year's slop
You tell me.
>megas are a gimmick guy is still alive
🙁
Meds
Why the frick wouldn't you want an straight up evolution? Unless you're one of those homosexuals who cries about muh designs over its usability. Mawilegays got monkey-pawed hard.
counterpoint an evolution isnt going to be as explosive as a mega evolution and it still lets you use the base pokemon without replacing it entirely
and theres always playing showdown if you really want to keep using it
I will say this one more time, what the frick would you NOT want Ledian to get a permanent upgrade given its overall stats? Do not even pretend you use it in any serious manner.
>want to use Ledian?
>just use something else instead bro!
I'm going to assume you are trolling because there is literally no one on Earth who thinks Ledian is fine as is.
Improve your reading comprehension.
I read what you said. And the only thing explosive about a mega evolution is exploding the chance for Ledian to be viable without a damn gimmick. And
>Bringing up Showdown
The fact that I even replied to you should be considered a privilege.
Your not using ledian you'd be using mega ledian, you'd be pressing the mega evolve button not even a second after its out.
So congrats instead of at least letting some moron out there using eviolite to get something out of it, you can larp your using it instead of its mega. Which you won't be using cause anyway cause there'll be something else occupying that slot instead.
yes anon as we all know giving a pokemon evolite improves its viablity
especially a low hp high special defense bug flying type with poor support options for its type
at least a mega lets me make a cool team around it
And an evolution wouldn't? At least they wouldn't be stuck keeping that same shit HP or be limited to only adding 100 BST. A Mega would look just as different than a regular evolution
>Thread about crossgen evos
>Drooling zoomer/Gen Alpha moron talking about his first game's shitty flavor of the gen's gimmick which will be forgotten come Gen 10
It'd still be a shitmon but at least your actually using it. You ain't making a team around ledian your making a team around a ledian evolution pretending to be a super power.
>Solrock and Lunatone
Can evolve from Minior with Sunstone or Moonstone, respectively. Can evolve INTO Minior with a new Comet Stone. Can each also evolve with the opposite stone (Moonstone for Solrock, Sunstone for Lunatone) into a new form called Galaxite.
>Carnivine
Evolves from a new evolution for Bellsprout, called Beltrapt.
>Tropius
Has a baby form called Wyfern. Evolves into Branchiosaur.
>Sigilyph
Evolves when you have two or more Unown in the party, consuming all Unowns. Sigilyph's ability is determined by which Unown are used to evolve it.
>Volbeat and Illumise
Breeding them gives you an egg which hatches into a new baby called Lumva. Can evolve into either Volbeat or Illumise. They in turn evolve into different forms of Eclaridy, bug/electric.
>Shuckle
Evolves into two forms: bug/rock Diamolith, or bug/steel Chromicle.
WHERE IS MY KELFKI EVO?
>giving a top 10 Pokemon an evolution
I want a Mantine evo that turns it into a bigger manta with multiple bundles of remoraid missile racks.
So just copying Dragapult?
I mean sure I guess but the Remoraid already on Mantine was basically doing that before Dragapult so also not really, it's just the same thing as Mantine now but bigger.
>More object cancer
Headbutt a knife.
Anything but more gen 1 pokemon.
The others need love too
I would have said Pinsir because of it's movepool screams Bug/Fighting instead of Bug but either keep its tpying as Bug or go the Bug/Ground type route so people won't b***h about two Bug/Fighting types even though it makes more sense.
I think Pinsir’s type should just be changed to bug/fighting. He’s basically Heracross’ counterpart so it feels weird to have one be obviously better than the other.
When I was a kid, I always thought Pinsir evolved into Heracross, because it just was the overall better Pokemon.
I agree, you can even bullshit it as Heracross teaching it how to 'fight' in Alola and leveling it up with a Heracross in your party.
I woulda been ok not giving it a psychic weakness back in the day it there was even one good bug move
They ought to give Pinsir a signature move, which they sometimes do for older mons, like Tauros and Heatmor both got. Some sort of Bug-type throwing move.
In Gen 1 this should have been Vice Grip obviously, but they made it Normal for no reason?
Think its because krabby has acces to it, but man letting the bug move be used by the crustacean makes sense to me but thats just how gen 1 was
It should stay pure Bug. Maybe give it a Fighting-type Steelwork. But it should stay pure Bug.
I think Bug/Fighting with Mold Breaker could keep its edge and give it a STAB to boot.
These are Gen II's only single-stage Pokemon that haven't been given any evolutions or forms (if you don't count Iron Bundle). What would you do with them?
>Evo
Delibiird, Shuckle
>Regional
Miltank (based on Highland Cows)
Smeargle (based n AI)
>Mega
Skarmory
>Shuckle
Evo
>Delibird, Smeargle, Miltank
Regional
>Skarmory
Baby for parity with Mantine
You're right, baby skar needs to happen
> Regional
Miss me with this nugen cancer bullshit, zoomer
The only one needing an evo here is Delibird.
They also still need to drop Insomnia and give Delibird Slush Rush already as a hidden ability.
What would you like to see as a Delibird evolution?
Smeargle could make a regional variant work, or evolve with a certain move known. Delibird could use a basic evolution and Skarmory could work with a preevo or baby. Shuckle is strange, maybe a variant that swaps its defenses for attack and an ability that always allows it to go first.
Miltank is fine as is, but I can see it getting something.
Dark is overdone, but this is pretty cool
I think Arbok's evolution could be Poison/Psychic, based around its belly pattern. Regeneration could be its ability too with U-Turn as a move it learns when it evolves.
>I think Arbok's evolution could be Poison/Psychic, based around its belly pattern
That's actually brilliant
Found pic rel online. Its meant as a regional form, but with some tweaking it'd serve great as an evolution.
That looks really cool. Love the third eye.
That works perfectly.
And speaking of which,
>No Cheauking/Choaking evo
>Though very rare, triplets have been found.
Combining mind control and vore to make the ultimate fetishmon.
It's too dangerous, we can't.
What would a Tauros evolution be like?
100 points to SpA
>140 SpA
>110 Speed
>Sheer Force
Furret.
Here me out though. It's actually just two Furrets working together. No design changes, just two Furrets for the price of one. Much better stats. Double the Furret. Easy win.
>More nugen cringe shit ideas
The last few gens poisoned the zoomers' brains.
>mfw
Weezing is one connected organism
i've had a similar idea but kangaskhan. instead of the baby being out of the pouch but still a baby, it's grown up and now there are two adults. its name, of course, is kangaskhans
>fukn zoomies fr fr
I’m in the minority that wants them to have pre evolutions more specifically a baby mon
Based. I miss crossgen babymons. One of my fondest Pokemon memories was me and my friends being mind-blown by the babymons we hatched from the eggs the Daycare gave us in Pokemon GS.
So many Pokémon would benefit from a baby pre evo. Shit like Lapras, Tarous, Miltank for example could all use a pre evo
>Dragon Eeveelution
What would be best for its stats?
Most Eeveelutions are Special Attackers, so I'm thinking this one would be Physical.
60/110/65/95/65/130
>le sweeper
You gays don't know how GameFreak works and just want another compgay bait Pokemon. It will be slow and bulky if they ever make it.
why even say this with such confidence when you're literally operating on the same level of knowledge as everyone else? you don't know shit about what they'll do either, and now i just hope it IS a sweeper so you'll have to eat those words.
>110/130 offense with 0 bulk
It's just a shitty dragon. It's not that deep.
HP:60
ATK:130
DEF:95
SATK:65
SDEF:65
SPD:110
Tried pairing numbers with stat categories they haven't been in yet, or in rarely