There are no remaining tube factories, not just in Japan, but anywhere in the world. To spin up CRT production in the modern era you'd probably have to spend hundreds of millions on manufacturing facilities for what is essentially a dead technology.
The best thing you'll ever get is either refurbishing your own CRT (dangerous, difficult) or finding a new old stock CRT (expensive, rare).
record players had a resurgence, they were never really dead. Maybe only cassettes and those now are niche with their forced resurgence unlike vynil and the likes
Record players are notably simpler technology than CRTs, because for a record player you only need some mechanism to spin the record, a needle, and something that plays back the audio from the needle's readings. CRTs on the other hand have, well, the cathode ray tube itself, and other assorted parts that nobody manufactures anymore.
actually all the parts needed for crts are still being made and the CRT itself isnt that complicated
Making Monitor grade tubes again would probably take a few years but making TV grade tubes could be started again tomorrow, all the other parts are still actively being made as spare parts
The bullshit about record players is that 90% of the sound "superiority" came from the speakers manufactured back then, and the tube tech they used prior to solid state becoming mass produced. Nowadays all you're getting is a fuzzy drone from a low bit-rate storage medium that rapidly degrades with each playback, thus exacerbating the issue every time you listen to your album.
Record players are a spinning thing and a needle.
The only part of a CRT that could be made in an existing factory is the raw tube itself with no electron gun or vacuum, and it needs to be made out of lead glass to not x ray your face so that would be illegal in the US now
BUT there is a solution. Laser Phosphor Display. It is essentially a CRT using lasers to light the phosphors instead of electrons, which means no x rays, no hard to replace flyback transformers that give off a high pitched whine, all with the same motion clarity/multiresolution capabilities as CRT.
If they would make a consumer model it could be a true successor to late era PC CRTs, but the company Prysm only sells it as video walls for boomer board room meetings. Spread the word, use their contact form to tell them how much you would be willing to pay for one (it would probably be several hundred dollars if not over 1000), and with enough people we might be able to make a group buy happen kind of like the model F keyboard project.
I assume the reaction with the phosphor diffuses the laser, if it wasn't safe I think there would have been reports of boomers in board room meetings going blind by now
I saw a video on this recently where control boards apparently they're still being made new in China.
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And they do work, this guy swaps it out with an old CRT and it works just fine.
They also sell fully assembled ones with the display- $30 for a new CRT put together this way (shipping will kill you, though)
Now if they're new or "New" (someone has literal warehouses full of the displays and they're just putting on new control boards which are practically worth nothing) nobody will ever know.
But do you want to try importing a $70 CRT from China? The shipping cost alone wouldn't be worth it.
> refurbishing your own CRT (dangerous, difficult)
idk where people get this from because crts are still extremely common in thrift stores and goodwills. even new old stock CRTs are sitting on palettes depending on where youlive.
I believe the small monochrome tubes used by projectors can be refurbished due to their simplicity and there used to be companies that would do that ( cut open, recoat the phosphor, weld together in vacuum).
Color tubes require all that extra metal shit inside that makes it impractical to try
Ryusuke Mita spent years without drawing due to failing eyesight. He may have gotten it fixed, but I would not want to have a new Dragon Half with Darkhair Captured's artstyle. I think he improved again, but I think all he has done is porn.
He did character illustrations and designs for a game on Steam. Ascalon: Tears of the Earth. Said game might get another entry depending on how well it did; it's an almost alright metroidvania, but some of the design decisions for the bosses and the final fight are kinda 'eh'.
He posts on Twitter and drew lllustrations of Mink using his new art style.
I've been collecting Mita's stuff throughout the decades, so I'm uncertain why you think his early 80s stuff is better than his 90s stuff. I even have a doujin he did with all of the story board art for a Dragon Half game he was going to do in the 1990s (not to be confused with the PC98 game).
Do you remember some key words for the threads they were posted in?
Any destinct words used?
Ill try to find these because I am pretty interested in his decline
Do you remember some key words for the threads they were posted in?
Any destinct words used?
Ill try to find these because I am pretty interested in his decline
No no, he's got a point. There is a lot of overlap of furries, autists, and trannies, and that overlap is squarely centered around either vintage technology or infosecurity. Go to a hacker meetup, troons and furries everywhere (the autist is just assumed if you're a hacker). If anyone decides to bring them back it'll be one of those three groups.
If someone pointed out the obvious fact that most posters here are virgins would you claim that person to be obsessed with virgin men? Because that'd be stupid, it's simply an observation.
Two reasons: The red color in their RGB mesh was made with mercury once upon a time. idk if that's the case in ones that were 'recent' (newer than 1990) , reason 2 is Energy Star requirements, they are power hogs and break just about every rule for new TV appliances sold but no where else gives a frick about that.
It would be nice but it would have to take a very devoted billionaire to buy materials, factories, and patents/licensing. Even on a super small scale it wouldn’t be profitable. The new polaroids cost way too much for an ancient technology at this point but still affordable enough so yuppies can buy in. CRTs won’t have that price point.
There is way, way, way too much red tape and regulation of phosphorus extraction, transportation, handling and manufacturing just for an outdated and obsoleted technology to resurface in any real capacity when the entire world has already invested in a successor
I saw a video on this recently where control boards apparently they're still being made new in China.
?t=104
And they do work, this guy swaps it out with an old CRT and it works just fine.
They also sell fully assembled ones with the display- $30 for a new CRT put together this way (shipping will kill you, though)
Now if they're new or "New" (someone has literal warehouses full of the displays and they're just putting on new control boards which are practically worth nothing) nobody will ever know.
You think THAT'S bad? Try making a CRT thread on Ganker and watch what happens.
[...]
>Guy saves LITERALLY HUNDREDS of pictures of people destroying old CRTs and sending them to landfills and makes constant death threats to anyone posting in these threads because "OLD BAD NEW GOOD"
People call anything 'schizo' nowadays, but we have less barneygays and ACKs than ever.
I swear, Ganker has some schizo hit list made out for absolutely everything. Is there anything you morons don't shit yourselves about?
>that time the Ganker CRT guy bragged about making a bomb threat to a recycling center
even if fake and gay i don't get why people choose Ganker to fight their inner demons publicly this way. i get before they used to be put in halfway houses and shocked twice a day to maybe get a grip on reality but even then, why Ganker?
I just assumed it's all the 90's kids who were drawn to Ganker as teenagers since they were too socially awkward to fit in anywhere else. It's no surprise they grew up to be fringe lunatics who stalk the boards with their manic delusions.
Don't really see the appeal of these TV's or monitors. Grew up with them and their only noticeable benefit was being so bad that I now remember games looking entirely different as a kid vs on a high definition TV @ 26. Seems like rose tinted glasses, it would be like trying to buy old plasma TVs to play Xbox 360 or watch 2008 era anime on when you could just play it on any TV.
Like most technology, you only get to appreciate the finer details if you had the best stuff. If you're like 99% of consumers and just bought the cheapest Sanyos and Zeniths imaginable, of course you don't see the benefit. Those things sucked. LCDs at the basic b***h level were WAY BETTER than CRTs at the basic b***h level. You only got to experience the best parts once you started climbing in price and getting real quality from real quality brands. That's why Sonys can cost $800 easy nowadays but you can find Sanyos at goodwill.
Sony was one of the high quality brands for CRTS. How do you think they managed to be a massive brand name before PlayStation even existed? Sony displays were fantastic and generally still are. They just sucked during their 3D glasses bullshit.
Oh yes Sony was one of the best brands, but not far above the others.
Sony was on par with other japanese manufacturers.
Nowadays Sonys go for moron money while other brands (Some literally used Trinitrons) go unnoticed.
Its stupid.
I have a few Sonys and they are very nice, but not better then other manufacturers,
(I actually destroyed a Sony accidentally recently, and that still hurts, rest in peace)
>Sony TV vs Sanyo TV nearly no difference.
I owned both, and I can tell you the difference: >Better geometry controls >MORE geometry settings available in software, no opening up the back to dick with potentiometers >better capacitors, not tantalums that would start to act up after four years of life with moderate usage. >better FILTER capacitors, so you didn't get that crossbar 'crackling' if someone in your house happened to turn on a hair dryer
Unlike with LCDs where almost all of the analog components were stripped out in favor of digital, CRTs really, truly benefitted from quality analog components.
My dad is a TV snob so we always had Sony's, now I think he just goes out and buys whatever looks nice at best buy. But back then I remember they had nice color and whatnot, but it never really stood out over my friends who just had cheap little ones. Though we got rid of our tube TVs in favor of plasmas back in 2007 when I was only 9-10 so my eye for quality hadn't really developed yet. Just another box to plug my PS2 in. So my memory of them isn't very fresh.
If you could compare the same two TVs today you would probably notice the difference if only because the analog components in the Sony would still be 100% functional.
I just assumed it's all the 90's kids who were drawn to Ganker as teenagers since they were too socially awkward to fit in anywhere else. It's no surprise they grew up to be fringe lunatics who stalk the boards with their manic delusions.
The difference between a troll and a schizo is tenacity. He's in every one of these threads. Barneygay would be a great troll if it wasn't immensely apparently he is actually haunted by horse show in some capacity and devotes a chunk of his life to seriously hunting it like this guy does CRT threads.
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I just assumed it's all the 90's kids who were drawn to Ganker as teenagers since they were too socially awkward to fit in anywhere else. It's no surprise they grew up to be fringe lunatics who stalk the boards with their manic delusions.
[...] >that time the Ganker CRT guy bragged about making a bomb threat to a recycling center
even if fake and gay i don't get why people choose Ganker to fight their inner demons publicly this way. i get before they used to be put in halfway houses and shocked twice a day to maybe get a grip on reality but even then, why Ganker?
When you don't have to sign up for an account, and there's no community standards on behavior or post quality, you will get some really bad actors stinking up your forum.
My dad is a TV snob so we always had Sony's, now I think he just goes out and buys whatever looks nice at best buy. But back then I remember they had nice color and whatnot, but it never really stood out over my friends who just had cheap little ones. Though we got rid of our tube TVs in favor of plasmas back in 2007 when I was only 9-10 so my eye for quality hadn't really developed yet. Just another box to plug my PS2 in. So my memory of them isn't very fresh.
Better colors something something latency, sheer power of glass screen that liquid screens can't get close to even today
Sony was one of the high quality brands for CRTS. How do you think they managed to be a massive brand name before PlayStation even existed? Sony displays were fantastic and generally still are. They just sucked during their 3D glasses bullshit.
>How do you think they managed to be a massive brand name before PlayStation even existed?
The walkman, their music division was fricking huge. TVs were mid range until lcd arrival where they were shilled as above average despite being still mid range (and not better than their crts)
I mean today sony literally uses LG panels lol
Sony isnt 80s Sony anymore its a cucked shell of its former self holding relevance only with the Black person cuck homosexual station and they yearly football and Black personball games on it
>I mean today sony literally uses LG panels lol
Something important changed since late 2000s? I recall LG being similar to Samsung while Sony's sharper look was more like Panasonic
It's old, not many people remember it.
When VHS came out it was absurdly expensive. $300 and up for a deck.
But you could get a VCD deck for >$200.
It's vinyl records, but for video playback. The audio and video quality are extremely low. I had two decks, and a bunch of VCDs I rescued when an inlaw died. They were... amusing to say the least. But there's significant signal noise and the quality degrades for the same reason it does with audio records.
>be german autist >find crt monitor on the side of the road >"Ooo, das ist gut" >call your friend to come pick you up >he's sighs knowing that his autistic friend has found yet another crt monitor, its the only reason he ever calls >pick up the gitty german autist standing on the side of the road holding a 20 pound hunk of tech from 40 years ago >drive him home, the entire car ride the autist is just sat in the passenger seat with his monitor, staring forward and never blinking >get out of friend's car >"Danke" >walk into dark apartment and flick the lights on >at least 30 crt monitors scattered about the room >peace.png >lay my new addition to the collection on the ground and plug it in >it springs to life and a smile creeps across my face >immediately go to r/smalldickgirls to look at that glorious 1280x1024 femwiener
>no you can't have steak because I said so >here, have this >why the frick are you complaining, it's beef, fricking eat it you entitled c**t, it's fine
If there's ever enough demand that exceeds the supply of old/used CRTs, maybe. It's a very niche market and most people are only willing to pay so much for them, especially when people are willing to even give them away to anyone that will haul it out of their home.
Like less than 8 years ago the Goodwill near me was almost trying to give all their TVs away due to nobody wanting them now they get sold as soon as they get put out on the floor. It's just weird as this town isn't full of hipsters or any real retro gaming stores.
Not going to happen. You have to have your output match the CRT output. I used to have an ancient ATi PCI gpu I'd use for TV out because it had an S-video port and would work really well as long as I lowered my resolution.
DVI ports are confusing, with some carrying analog VGA compatible signals and some being only digital. >was there any lag when you tested them?
no noticeable lag, no. i did get one that was confirmed good by reddit or something iirc, but i also never heard anyone complaining about DP->VGA adapter lag so i have no idea if it's something to worry about.
I'm literally using a CRT TV hooked up to my 4090 right now with an HDMI to RCA adapter sending 640x480 60hz to it just fine. I also have a DisplayPort to VGA adapter for my Dell M992 PC monitor. That one works even better because it accepts a wide range of signals so for stuff like NES/SNES emulation, I can create 640x240 120.2hz signal, stretch the image vertically on the monitor to fullscreen, use Desktop BFI to cut the rendered frames in half resulting in effectively 60.1hz at 240p on a VGA monitor. The scanlines are glorious. Sharper beam width than the best PVM/BVMs out there from a basic consumer VGA CRT made in 2002.
With all the materials needed to make q CRT you can make like 10 LCD's. No company in their right mind would make CRT's again unless it is to sell them for thousands of dollars.
I understand the want for a CRT but it's nothing more than an aesthetic and time capsule to wherever youre trying to go.
I can't imagine putting in a new movie like no time to die and hooking it through a crt monitor, it would look terrible and ruin the entire experience of the movie.
any 2d game made in the 90s looks way better on a crt. also basically 0 input latency, contrast on par with oled, and the higher end monitors have great colors with rgb.
One day when we are watching on TVs with 120k resolutions, or using whatever far more advanced tech is available for media consumption, there will be some hipster homosexuals that stroke themselves over watching and playing "the classics" in 1080p. Falling over themselves to grab some worthless flat-screen that grandma pushes out into the street for the garbage man to pick up. morons.
I remember reading that apparently Japan literally lost the way to make some of the best CRTs.
Dunno if its bullshit but I believe it.
There are no remaining tube factories, not just in Japan, but anywhere in the world. To spin up CRT production in the modern era you'd probably have to spend hundreds of millions on manufacturing facilities for what is essentially a dead technology.
The best thing you'll ever get is either refurbishing your own CRT (dangerous, difficult) or finding a new old stock CRT (expensive, rare).
>spend hundreds of millions on manufacturing facilities for what is essentially a dead technology.
You can get record players on Amazon for like $80 or less and that's a far more dead tech.
record players had a resurgence, they were never really dead. Maybe only cassettes and those now are niche with their forced resurgence unlike vynil and the likes
Different mediums. There's way more of an appeal for listening to music on vinyl than there is for watching VHS tapes/retro gaming.
Record players were able to easily adapt to new technology. No one quit making wires and needles, and chips only made it easier to produce them.
Record players are notably simpler technology than CRTs, because for a record player you only need some mechanism to spin the record, a needle, and something that plays back the audio from the needle's readings. CRTs on the other hand have, well, the cathode ray tube itself, and other assorted parts that nobody manufactures anymore.
actually all the parts needed for crts are still being made and the CRT itself isnt that complicated
Making Monitor grade tubes again would probably take a few years but making TV grade tubes could be started again tomorrow, all the other parts are still actively being made as spare parts
The bullshit about record players is that 90% of the sound "superiority" came from the speakers manufactured back then, and the tube tech they used prior to solid state becoming mass produced. Nowadays all you're getting is a fuzzy drone from a low bit-rate storage medium that rapidly degrades with each playback, thus exacerbating the issue every time you listen to your album.
casette tapes are the thinking mans vynil
Record players are a spinning thing and a needle.
The only part of a CRT that could be made in an existing factory is the raw tube itself with no electron gun or vacuum, and it needs to be made out of lead glass to not x ray your face so that would be illegal in the US now
BUT there is a solution. Laser Phosphor Display. It is essentially a CRT using lasers to light the phosphors instead of electrons, which means no x rays, no hard to replace flyback transformers that give off a high pitched whine, all with the same motion clarity/multiresolution capabilities as CRT.
If they would make a consumer model it could be a true successor to late era PC CRTs, but the company Prysm only sells it as video walls for boomer board room meetings. Spread the word, use their contact form to tell them how much you would be willing to pay for one (it would probably be several hundred dollars if not over 1000), and with enough people we might be able to make a group buy happen kind of like the model F keyboard project.
Are you essentially aiming lasers at your face, though?
I assume the reaction with the phosphor diffuses the laser, if it wasn't safe I think there would have been reports of boomers in board room meetings going blind by now
shame china doesn't bother making CRT's usually they are good at making outdated tech and selling it cheap
They actually are:
But do you want to try importing a $70 CRT from China? The shipping cost alone wouldn't be worth it.
> refurbishing your own CRT (dangerous, difficult)
idk where people get this from because crts are still extremely common in thrift stores and goodwills. even new old stock CRTs are sitting on palettes depending on where youlive.
I believe the small monochrome tubes used by projectors can be refurbished due to their simplicity and there used to be companies that would do that ( cut open, recoat the phosphor, weld together in vacuum).
Color tubes require all that extra metal shit inside that makes it impractical to try
I hope not. I was a little moron who got glued to the TV and worsened my vision.
Mom warned me not to put a magnet on the TV. I did it briefly to see what happens and got purple warping the screen. Good thing I didn't destroy it.
>gotta rewatch my Outlaw Star VHS boxset
I.... I did that last month.
Oh god. This can't be happen to me.
>ignoring a based boomer showing you Ninja Scroll
That little homosexual zoomer has no idea what he's missing. Story of their lives.
I did the same thing except for an extended period of time since no one warned me. It looked cool.
>Ninja Scroll
>Escaflowne
>La Blue Girl
>Trigun t-shirt
That's some patrician taste boomer
Honestly Outlaw Star on a CRT sounds fricking amazing to me
>Ninja Scroll
>La Blue Girl
>Outlaw Star on a CRT
Ah. So it's finally happened.
Frick I just bought Escalfowne and a buddy is getting into it.
watched ninja scroll because of this image and it was extremely good, downloaded escaflowne as well
Good boy.
Check out Dirty Pair OVA and TV from the 80s, and Project A-Ko as well. Apple Seed is also good.
Mink on Ganker!
Will there ever be new Mink?
Ryusuke Mita spent years without drawing due to failing eyesight. He may have gotten it fixed, but I would not want to have a new Dragon Half with Darkhair Captured's artstyle. I think he improved again, but I think all he has done is porn.
He did character illustrations and designs for a game on Steam. Ascalon: Tears of the Earth. Said game might get another entry depending on how well it did; it's an almost alright metroidvania, but some of the design decisions for the bosses and the final fight are kinda 'eh'.
He posts on Twitter and drew lllustrations of Mink using his new art style.
still not great compared to the beginning of dragon half.
And he is an old man now, he isnt getting his prime back ever
I've been collecting Mita's stuff throughout the decades, so I'm uncertain why you think his early 80s stuff is better than his 90s stuff. I even have a doujin he did with all of the story board art for a Dragon Half game he was going to do in the 1990s (not to be confused with the PC98 game).
Reminder that this mangaka went full shizo and by the end of Dragon Half's run his characters looked like weird aliens.
hard drug abuse over an extended period of time will do that to you sadly.
Atleast his early art is very cute
Cute slime(half)
you can't say that and not post some aliens
I never saved the mental health break down diagrams from the Dragon Half threads on Ganker.
Do you remember some key words for the threads they were posted in?
Any destinct words used?
Ill try to find these because I am pretty interested in his decline
Ah shame.
I want to see these too.
What a fatty.
Post it
Maybe? There's been an explosion in the amount of CRT consumers (trannies and autists). There might be enough demand for them to be made again.
Why are you so obsessed with transsexuals?
Don't be mean, he's trying to fit in
No no, he's got a point. There is a lot of overlap of furries, autists, and trannies, and that overlap is squarely centered around either vintage technology or infosecurity. Go to a hacker meetup, troons and furries everywhere (the autist is just assumed if you're a hacker). If anyone decides to bring them back it'll be one of those three groups.
get help
With what? It was just an observation Anon.
with your troony obsession
If someone pointed out the obvious fact that most posters here are virgins would you claim that person to be obsessed with virgin men? Because that'd be stupid, it's simply an observation.
Aren't they basically illegal to make now because of some of the materials involved?
Care to elaborate?
Illegal to make in this country, you mean.
Two reasons: The red color in their RGB mesh was made with mercury once upon a time. idk if that's the case in ones that were 'recent' (newer than 1990) , reason 2 is Energy Star requirements, they are power hogs and break just about every rule for new TV appliances sold but no where else gives a frick about that.
>Industry only tries to get cheaper with time even if it means low quality
Doubt it. Very
It would be nice but it would have to take a very devoted billionaire to buy materials, factories, and patents/licensing. Even on a super small scale it wouldn’t be profitable. The new polaroids cost way too much for an ancient technology at this point but still affordable enough so yuppies can buy in. CRTs won’t have that price point.
There is way, way, way too much red tape and regulation of phosphorus extraction, transportation, handling and manufacturing just for an outdated and obsoleted technology to resurface in any real capacity when the entire world has already invested in a successor
why does she have a bellybutton, she came out of an egg
Im going to come in her eggs if you know what I mean
Umbilical cord in the egg
Bellybuttons are erotic
>You're 30 that makes you a boomer
No.
I saw a video on this recently where control boards apparently they're still being made new in China.
?t=104
And they do work, this guy swaps it out with an old CRT and it works just fine.
They also sell fully assembled ones with the display- $30 for a new CRT put together this way (shipping will kill you, though)
Now if they're new or "New" (someone has literal warehouses full of the displays and they're just putting on new control boards which are practically worth nothing) nobody will ever know.
rip Dale
>dies before the new series
it's never fricking fair...
No.
delete my picture right now
I swear, Ganker has some schizo hit list made out for absolutely everything. Is there anything you morons don't shit yourselves about?
You think THAT'S bad? Try making a CRT thread on Ganker and watch what happens.
>Guy saves LITERALLY HUNDREDS of pictures of people destroying old CRTs and sending them to landfills and makes constant death threats to anyone posting in these threads because "OLD BAD NEW GOOD"
People call anything 'schizo' nowadays, but we have less barneygays and ACKs than ever.
>that time the Ganker CRT guy bragged about making a bomb threat to a recycling center
even if fake and gay i don't get why people choose Ganker to fight their inner demons publicly this way. i get before they used to be put in halfway houses and shocked twice a day to maybe get a grip on reality but even then, why Ganker?
I just assumed it's all the 90's kids who were drawn to Ganker as teenagers since they were too socially awkward to fit in anywhere else. It's no surprise they grew up to be fringe lunatics who stalk the boards with their manic delusions.
>Sailormoon SuperS movie VHS
Are you latino? Is that the mexican VHS? I got one cheap from an old anime shop eons ago!
Don't really see the appeal of these TV's or monitors. Grew up with them and their only noticeable benefit was being so bad that I now remember games looking entirely different as a kid vs on a high definition TV @ 26. Seems like rose tinted glasses, it would be like trying to buy old plasma TVs to play Xbox 360 or watch 2008 era anime on when you could just play it on any TV.
Better colors and less pixelation, but most things still look perfectly fine in a modern TV with some filter work, or even without.
Like most technology, you only get to appreciate the finer details if you had the best stuff. If you're like 99% of consumers and just bought the cheapest Sanyos and Zeniths imaginable, of course you don't see the benefit. Those things sucked. LCDs at the basic b***h level were WAY BETTER than CRTs at the basic b***h level. You only got to experience the best parts once you started climbing in price and getting real quality from real quality brands. That's why Sonys can cost $800 easy nowadays but you can find Sanyos at goodwill.
Sony TV vs Sanyo TV nearly no difference.
I dont get the sony dicksucking.
Sony was one of the high quality brands for CRTS. How do you think they managed to be a massive brand name before PlayStation even existed? Sony displays were fantastic and generally still are. They just sucked during their 3D glasses bullshit.
Oh yes Sony was one of the best brands, but not far above the others.
Sony was on par with other japanese manufacturers.
Nowadays Sonys go for moron money while other brands (Some literally used Trinitrons) go unnoticed.
Its stupid.
I have a few Sonys and they are very nice, but not better then other manufacturers,
(I actually destroyed a Sony accidentally recently, and that still hurts, rest in peace)
>Sony TV vs Sanyo TV nearly no difference.
I owned both, and I can tell you the difference:
>Better geometry controls
>MORE geometry settings available in software, no opening up the back to dick with potentiometers
>better capacitors, not tantalums that would start to act up after four years of life with moderate usage.
>better FILTER capacitors, so you didn't get that crossbar 'crackling' if someone in your house happened to turn on a hair dryer
Unlike with LCDs where almost all of the analog components were stripped out in favor of digital, CRTs really, truly benefitted from quality analog components.
If you could compare the same two TVs today you would probably notice the difference if only because the analog components in the Sony would still be 100% functional.
dicksucker
Don't you have more CRT gore threads to post in?
The difference between a troll and a schizo is tenacity. He's in every one of these threads. Barneygay would be a great troll if it wasn't immensely apparently he is actually haunted by horse show in some capacity and devotes a chunk of his life to seriously hunting it like this guy does CRT threads.
When you don't have to sign up for an account, and there's no community standards on behavior or post quality, you will get some really bad actors stinking up your forum.
My dad is a TV snob so we always had Sony's, now I think he just goes out and buys whatever looks nice at best buy. But back then I remember they had nice color and whatnot, but it never really stood out over my friends who just had cheap little ones. Though we got rid of our tube TVs in favor of plasmas back in 2007 when I was only 9-10 so my eye for quality hadn't really developed yet. Just another box to plug my PS2 in. So my memory of them isn't very fresh.
Better colors something something latency, sheer power of glass screen that liquid screens can't get close to even today
>How do you think they managed to be a massive brand name before PlayStation even existed?
The walkman, their music division was fricking huge. TVs were mid range until lcd arrival where they were shilled as above average despite being still mid range (and not better than their crts)
I mean today sony literally uses LG panels lol
Sony isnt 80s Sony anymore its a cucked shell of its former self holding relevance only with the Black person cuck homosexual station and they yearly football and Black personball games on it
>I mean today sony literally uses LG panels lol
Something important changed since late 2000s? I recall LG being similar to Samsung while Sony's sharper look was more like Panasonic
casette are poor man's vhs
>casette are poor man's vhs
That would be VCDs.
Now -that- is crazy shit right there.
First time I heard about it
It's old, not many people remember it.
When VHS came out it was absurdly expensive. $300 and up for a deck.
But you could get a VCD deck for >$200.
It's vinyl records, but for video playback. The audio and video quality are extremely low. I had two decks, and a bunch of VCDs I rescued when an inlaw died. They were... amusing to say the least. But there's significant signal noise and the quality degrades for the same reason it does with audio records.
Loved this series. Was so happy to see the manga got a full run and conclusion to Mink's story.
>be german autist
>find crt monitor on the side of the road
>"Ooo, das ist gut"
>call your friend to come pick you up
>he's sighs knowing that his autistic friend has found yet another crt monitor, its the only reason he ever calls
>pick up the gitty german autist standing on the side of the road holding a 20 pound hunk of tech from 40 years ago
>drive him home, the entire car ride the autist is just sat in the passenger seat with his monitor, staring forward and never blinking
>get out of friend's car
>"Danke"
>walk into dark apartment and flick the lights on
>at least 30 crt monitors scattered about the room
>peace.png
>lay my new addition to the collection on the ground and plug it in
>it springs to life and a smile creeps across my face
>immediately go to r/smalldickgirls to look at that glorious 1280x1024 femwiener
SAUCEEERRRR
Does a Dell E773C count?
sure its not a great monitor but decent enough.
Run 768p
My dad still has plenty of these.
I asked him for one so I could play ps1/ps2 games. It's pretty good.
No, just get a scanline generator
>no you can't have steak because I said so
>here, have this
>why the frick are you complaining, it's beef, fricking eat it you entitled c**t, it's fine
If there's ever enough demand that exceeds the supply of old/used CRTs, maybe. It's a very niche market and most people are only willing to pay so much for them, especially when people are willing to even give them away to anyone that will haul it out of their home.
Are CRTs really that expensive now?
In my city you can get used trinitrons in working condition for 30-50$.
Depends on your area and if the retro meme has any influence there.
>retro meme
damn boomers ruined the whole market
now everything old enough is expensive as frick
Everyone knowing about ebay made hunting for retro games impossible. Some homosexual wanted $40 for a copy of SMB2. Loose.
>damn boomers ruined the whole market
Blame internet for making everyone aware trying to be a bussinessmen, and hipsters
The only change I've noticed is a lot of thrift stores near me simply don't have them anymore but if I do see one it's still only like 20 dollars
Like less than 8 years ago the Goodwill near me was almost trying to give all their TVs away due to nobody wanting them now they get sold as soon as they get put out on the floor. It's just weird as this town isn't full of hipsters or any real retro gaming stores.
Somebody scooped them up in the hopes that he could flip them on ebay to some dumbass chasing faux nostalgia.
I can't even find any in my city.
It would be extremely expensive for a product that's ultimately very niche.
No, specially not ones that could handle 240p and no lag, if you can rescue a good crt, take it, and keep it.
anyone tried connecting a crt monitor to a modern gpu?
I have GTX 1070 btw but I'm getting no signal
Not going to happen. You have to have your output match the CRT output. I used to have an ancient ATi PCI gpu I'd use for TV out because it had an S-video port and would work really well as long as I lowered my resolution.
i got a displayport to VGA adapter and all CRT monitors i've tested work as they should.
I've tried that using a dvi to vga adapter, someone pointed out that it has to be an active adapter.
anyway, was there any lag when you tested them?
DVI ports are confusing, with some carrying analog VGA compatible signals and some being only digital.
>was there any lag when you tested them?
no noticeable lag, no. i did get one that was confirmed good by reddit or something iirc, but i also never heard anyone complaining about DP->VGA adapter lag so i have no idea if it's something to worry about.
I'm literally using a CRT TV hooked up to my 4090 right now with an HDMI to RCA adapter sending 640x480 60hz to it just fine. I also have a DisplayPort to VGA adapter for my Dell M992 PC monitor. That one works even better because it accepts a wide range of signals so for stuff like NES/SNES emulation, I can create 640x240 120.2hz signal, stretch the image vertically on the monitor to fullscreen, use Desktop BFI to cut the rendered frames in half resulting in effectively 60.1hz at 240p on a VGA monitor. The scanlines are glorious. Sharper beam width than the best PVM/BVMs out there from a basic consumer VGA CRT made in 2002.
These are my shots: https://imgur.com/a/OTSjHP0
With all the materials needed to make q CRT you can make like 10 LCD's. No company in their right mind would make CRT's again unless it is to sell them for thousands of dollars.
No, it's the logistics of it all dummy
I understand the want for a CRT but it's nothing more than an aesthetic and time capsule to wherever youre trying to go.
I can't imagine putting in a new movie like no time to die and hooking it through a crt monitor, it would look terrible and ruin the entire experience of the movie.
any 2d game made in the 90s looks way better on a crt. also basically 0 input latency, contrast on par with oled, and the higher end monitors have great colors with rgb.
One day when we are watching on TVs with 120k resolutions, or using whatever far more advanced tech is available for media consumption, there will be some hipster homosexuals that stroke themselves over watching and playing "the classics" in 1080p. Falling over themselves to grab some worthless flat-screen that grandma pushes out into the street for the garbage man to pick up. morons.
Why do people get angry over the idea that older technology might be better in certain situations?
Aren't chinks still making them?