I felt absolutely nothing for Jackie and T-Bug and I don't understand how people get emotional over them. You barely get to know them or spend time with them.
Cyberpunk 2077
I felt absolutely nothing for Jackie and T-Bug and I don't understand how people get emotional over them. You barely get to know them or spend time with them.
I wish I could feel Becca's hot passionate love before it was too late.
gawd damn
Becca butt
That's a child
out of 10
Frick off beggars
She is a mature woman ready for wiener.
Rebecca is in her early 20s.
why newbies calling it a child?
She’s 10 y.o. Who got body implants due to car crash injuries in which her parents died
k
She's officially 20, cope.
A drawing of one. A hot one.
BBC
Rebecca's feet on my face, then in my mouth then on my dick.
Another e-girl thread...
Also the update didn't change shit, I feel lied to.
There needed to be more T-Bug involvement and facetime to form a similar connection as Jackie. I think it only fully hit me when you go to his memorial service thing and later in game when you do all this crazy Legend of Night City style stuff.
forced emotion, but normies fall for it straight away since they're easy to manipulate into just "feeling bad" without fully understanding why. they just let themselves be taken advantage of in the spur of the moment.
happy super-sized Sunday, everyone
Disgusting
People get emotional over them because they were colleagues. Jackie in particular, no matter what your origin, is instrumental in keeping you alive while you learn how to live in Night City. T-Bug is a professional that you only meet in person once. It sure sucks she gets merked and it's really strange you don't meet anyone who knows her except the person at the app store, but I appreciate that you get the full range of the lifestyle. You do jobs with friends and people you hire.
While the game does get a little invested in making you feel bad for Jackie (you hear from his mom, you get his bike, his girlfriend is perhaps the only person in the entire city who cares about you if you don't do any romance stuff) I can appreciate the technique at least. Most games just hand you sidekicks and expect the magic to happen.
>I don't understand how people get emotional over them.
Don't let the viral marketers get to you man.
Anyway one of the biggest pills to swallow about CP77 is that despite all the ""customization""
YOU
ARE
N O T
V
V is their own character and their own set agenda and motivations while going through the story.
The mission where you set of the emp pulse has a very wierd line where you act like a 14 year old spaz excited to blow shit up.
It's off putting since V usually always sounds like a specific character except for that instance.
V has some cringy ass lines. "Rest in piss, shitbot!" sounds like something a teenager would write.
Yeah that line stuck out to me too. The whole taxi questline makes you want to uninstall. The dick on fire guy is bad but I wrote it off to being the e-celebs idea
That was moronic, do all the shit to set off the emp, it doesnt work, panam pulls out a manpads and shoots the fricker down. b***h why tf didnt you just do that to start with.
That was the Hawkeye Gough shooting Kalameet moment of this game
You had to go and finish the job in both scenarios
Someone posted in another thread what if Jackie was in your head the entire game instead of Johnny. Your dead friend inside your head, interacting with Misty, his mom. Would've been kino.
I thought they left the idea for this open with Jackie dying with the relic still slotted in but presumably couldn't decide on how they'd have it play out
I had the same thought. Not sure if they ever planned to do something with that or not
Don't worry, I didn't feel anything for them either. Sandra Dorsett and Nix are the only Characters I felt any affinity towards.
These are literally cut-out characters. In an interview with developers in 2019, it was said that Jackie would not necessarily die. In that cji T-Bug betrayed V by siding with Dexter. Probably a line of quests for T-Bug was conceived, according to the results of which she survived or died, and if you ignored her quest, she would betray you.
I remember during the E3 trailer, T-Bug was sitting in the room where Dexter offs you
It's clear this game has gone through some major changes. Probably why it was such a mess at launch.
>at launch
Brother it still is a mess.
>and I don't understand how people get emotional over them.
Play the tutorial. T-bug is the most charming woman in the game, and her goal of getting out and never associating with anyone there again is entirely respectable.
The fact that she goes out so horribly causes people to pity her.
I think they realized having every single black character abuse, betray, or play you would make them look bad, so they settled for killing them all instead, save that one guy who gives you a katana.
>anon doesn't understand basic human emotion
many such cases
Especially t-bug
She was just a sassy b***h you spoke to twice.
The tower heist should have been pushed two or three missions back at least
>CDPR still done frick all with her
Why do they hate us bros
Good thing i got this coming in march
hotglue when
CDPR hates her and wanted her taken out of edgerunners
They're selling a bunch of merch with her image and are using her for marketing.
ya because she is popular and people like money but they are still upset she exists they don't like e-girls and wanted Lucy to be every ones favorite
>tfw no Lucy gf
Lucy isn't even the best netrunner in that anime
Lucy hits you if you’re into women that are older than you and guide you through life
The moon scene where she encourages David to hold her hand would destroy any young hag lover
>They wanted the polish happa that fricks a bean to be everyone's favorite
What the frick did they mean by this
cdpr was almost right, edgerunner wasn't popular at all in the anglosphere and homosexuals who shilling this fotm is usually third world poor shitskins, only Hispanic & pajeets shilling this utter shit
>rucy
>cold and aloof groomer whose trauma led to the downward spiral in which got everyone apart from her getting killed
>rebecca
>ride or die sidechick that never abandoned or gave up on supporting david
yeah no wonder
fake info propagated by western hating weebs
What are they going to do with her? Show off her mangled corpse?
I felt aroused by T-Bug's latex suit.
But it is true, even side characters like River or Kerry were better. Jackie was fine.
It just confirms that they chose the wrong way to tell the story. It should have been more about getting a team and bonding with them throughout the game; then killing some of them at the end.
Also, most characters you often meet (like Judy) are not very likeable. Anime did it way better.
I found Dexter's death to be more emotionally affecting than the other two. It's just very dark and dehumanizing, it makes you feel bad. Overall I found 2077 to be extremely morbid and manipulative because of the POV style FPV. Everyone is always an inch from your face.
There are a lot of moments where V just says insanely inappropriate shit for the moment. Someone will die and he's cracking jokes a couple of lines later.
That too. I really dislike the voice actors for V. The writing is pretty cringe too.
Very true. It is also true that Beca deserved to get the Smasher Special.
>T-Bug
literally nobody cares, I forgot about her until you said her name
>Jackie
had bro energy, you go to his funeral, get his bike, hang out with his gf, and can bring him up in conversations
Jackie definitely should have been on the chip
I felt absolutely nothing for rebecca and menendez and I don't understand how people get emotional over them. you barely get to know them or spend time with them. and edgerunner is utter shit for degenerate brownskin
>tf
I get why V felt sad but they definitely could have had you do more missions with Jackie if they wanted a bigger response from the player. Personally the first act should have been that all the gigs and side biz is what you see in the cutscene after the life path start section where you actually get to hang with Jackie and build that friendship. But they had Keanu so absolutely needed to get him on screen to get the most bang for their buck.
Keanu performs worse than whoever the VA for Jackie was. They could have just given him rogues role for the sake of advertising it as a game with hecken chungus reeves in it
Anybody else think that the character deaths in act 1 are abrupt as frick? T-Bug gets one in-person scene with V before she dies offscreen and nobody brings her up again, Jackie dies after a few expository scenes with V, Evelyn dies basically off-screen after one in-person scene with V, Meredith dies after one scene or alternatively you get one random sex scene with her and then you never see her again. It's so fricking weird.
I also don't like how V references events we never got to see in-game or the fact that he has had interactions with characters we've never seen before like that one police neighbor he has for example.
>V references events we never got to see in-game or the fact that he has had interactions with characters we've never seen before
You are aware that V existed in this universe before you got to play as them, right?
Sure but it doesn't make sense as much as someone like Geraldo in the Witcher games who is an established character. V is a blank slate, or at least he is supposed to be.
How can you go through any of the lifepath intros and still think V's supposed to be a blank slate?
>V is a blank slate, or at least he is supposed to be.
Nta, but the cop neighbour mission referenced makes no sense, the player doesnt know the guy so why would they give a shit about him?
The player may give a shit because there is a quest marker. You are free to ignore the quest. V gives a shit because it's a neighbor they talked to once or twice.
Because despite being a game it is a very real world situation that some people might directly relate to or empathize with in some way.
But to empathise with the guy you got to have a history. I spoke to him once then he topped himself, no biggie. The cops you talk to could even have given you some backstory like he was involved in something like rivers case and it fricked his head, instead of just "he sad".
>The cops you talk to could even have given you some backstory
They do?
Thats hardly fricking detail tho is it. How hard would it have been for them to give you a shard with some proper info.
Point being i dont know the guy, if the games want me to talk him down from suicide it has to me me care. And it doesnt.
I failed it cos i didnt give a rats ass about him, the game gave me no reason to. More interesting stuff to do.
>give you a shard with some proper info
The game gives you a whole conversation with some proper info.
But to get that far you have knock on his door, then frick off and come back later etc. No reason to.
You pass the door any time you visit your apartment.
>I failed the quest so I assumed that there was no backstory
lamo
>But to empathise with the guy you got to have a history.
No you don't, empathizing with someone doesn't require a deep understanding of them personally but the ability to understand how they could be feeling based off the situation you are empathizing with them over. In this case of losing a best friend V would 100% empathize since Jackie just died. However you the player might not empathize with the guy as much since you've never been in that situation or are unable to imagine what they are going through although that begins to lean more towards just sympathy.
CDPR definitely could have done this a little better, the main assumption they seem to run off is that anyone would be able to empathize or at the least have sympathy for the guy having just lost his best friend and now co workers are showing up because they're worried, and outright say, he might do something stupid.
>I also don't like how V references events we never got to see in-game
This homie can't rotate the apple in his mind, lmao
Tbh they should have sacked off the multiple pt1 lifepaths, and just had one that went into more depth about you and jackie getting established.
What really annoys me is Evelyn and the Voodoo Boys are the ones responsible for fricking up your life. Evelyn literally tells you to put the chip in your head.
But the game tries to pin the blame on Arasaka for inventing it.
Evelyn deserves the same treatment as Dexter and the Voodoo Boys should have been expanded on way more
The only reason Arasaka is the main focus after the heist at all is because it's their tech and someone within the company, or recently left, might be able to figure out a solution. That and Johnny boy was obsessed with Arasaka ever since Alt got her mind ripped out with her own invention, Soulkiller, so is definitely nudging you to focus on them for his own reasons.
Evelyn is really the only one responsible for fricking up your life because if she had never set up the heist the VBs would have handled it in house because they wouldn't trust anyone with the chip that is their one ticket to getting Alt's attention.
>frick saka they are so evil
>saka at same time:
>minding their own buisness until some idiot steals their stuff and latter on breaks in their hq in hopes for cure.
Yeah. Frick them
0.003 eurodollars have been transferred to your account.
>saka
>ever minding their own business
There's litteraly a job where you find out Arasaka is paying Valentios to attack an Arasaka facility fully kitted out in Militech gear. Padre then expands on this saying this isn't the only time he's heard of this recently and tells V to get the frick out because this is bigger than just a dropped investigation over a dead cop.
Arasaka is 100% conducting false flag operations to have justification for attacking Militech potentially sparking another corpo war. That isn't just minding their own business.
I don't they're perfect little angels but they're no different than any other Corp. Frankly Biotechnica seemed way worse.
Also the whole soulkiller thing where multiple characters started acting like it literally steals your soul was moronic. It's just an AI based on your brainscan. Only dumbfrick characters should have been taking the name seriously
I thought it was going to be an altered carbon/rokos basilisk thing where they could upload you to the virtual rape dungeon for a few thousand years
>Frankly Biotechnica seemed way worse.
Fricking how? As far as corps go, they are a lesser evil.
They were kidnapping women to make genetically engineered babies and then killed all the women as liabilities when they got out
>Evelyn deserves the same treatment as Dexter
she got it so bad she killed herself afterward
Yeah and you are supposed to feel bad for her. You should have put a bullet in her brain the second it was clear she couldn't help.
It's obvious that you were originally supposed to be a street kid and nothing but a street kid. Act 1 was probably a good half of the game and the story was completely different before wholesome chungus man showed up.
>was street prostitute
>gunning for minor
>into infantile play due to acting and dressing much younger than she is, probably diapergay as well
>gives random bouncers at clubs handjobs
>actually might as well still be a prostitute, just not getting paid for it which is far worse
>is the night city train station herself and has a gaping brown starfish that constantly leaks
>might actually be why she's a diapergay because she legitimately needs one
>runs at the first sign of trouble that can't be immediately solved with a shotgun
>tries to cheat with a child with her friend lucy, then leaves both of them to die once she's told pretty damn reasonable boundaries and to respect their relationship
>has a bit of a crush on her junkie brother and mentions his dick size on three separate occasions to the previously mentioned child to see if he'd get jealous
>has a Vietnam trapped womb that impales your urethra at a 14% chance for each minute that she hasn't orgasmed, good luck
Anons unironically be like "I can fix her" like a mechanic with a home depot microwave when she's a garbage bag filled with rusty razor blades. Y'all ain't getting anything except even more depressed and your dick ripped off with those gorilla arms implants
> t-nigs corpse is always at the same spot
> nobody fricking cares about it for ages
What did polak bigots mean by that?
Wait you can find tbug's corpse? Where
Nowhere, it's mentioned in dialogue only.
That's very clearly not t-bug. She doesn't have blonde hair lmfao.
She was using body double, you norahn
>I felt absolutely nothing for Jackie and T-Bug
Why would you? You barely spend 20 minutes with them
At most you could say "damn jackie was a cool dude" and thats it
Jackie was cool in the nomad intro, built the relation a bit better imo. Character intros feel unfinished as frick.
The street kid one was stupid, jackie sticks a gun in your face and 5 mins later hes your best bud. Was like he was after your arse.
What would have had more emotional weight is if jackie was always the opposite sex and you were full bonny and clyde couple. Given his/her death some weight.
>emotional weight can only come from herosexual romantic couples
>emotional weight can only come from romantic couples
You are moronic.
Sorry youre gay mate. Yes, if you have limited time to build weight in a relationship, them being involved would have driven that, you lose your best bud, business partner, and lover in one go. Sarah sachilovski to your takeshi kovacs.
Jackie is a very easy to like person, I know why people would be emotional over him.
I have no idea how anyone could be attached to T-Bug. She's almost non-existent.
How do I beat Arasaka Tower 3D? I can't avoid getting damaged.
>T-Bug
no one cared about that b***h because she was supposed to betray you with deshawn like in the trailer
Smash or pass?
I'm convinced the cutscene at the beginning where you're running a bunch of jobs with Jackie was meant to be actual missions before the game became wholesome keanu chungus
If only that was the case in the final game. I could never find myself caring about Jackie or his mother.
Best girl